Re: New GNOME Foundation Members
Two names I recognize... welcome Brad and Pockey And welcome Nils and Paul too :) D On 6/4/09 8:30 PM, Bruno Boaventura wrote: Hello everybody! The GNOME Foundation Membership Committee is proud to present the new members: - Brad Taylor - Nils Faerber - Paul Cutler - Pockey Lam If your name is on the list above, you're welcome!!! Feel embraced! Being part of GNOME Foundation you're contributing more with GNOME. If you aren't on the list, and you are close of one of them, please say Welcome to GNOME Foundation and embrace them. At your service, GNOME Foundation Membership Committee ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Questions for the candidates
I'd like to add an optional tenth question: 10. If the foundation built a bike shed, what color would you paint the roof? D ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Questions for the candidates
Great answer. Next? D On 5/29/09 3:21 PM, Andy Tai wrote: Shouldn't the candidates be expected to oppose the foundation building this, as it is a misuse of the foundation's resources? On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:25 AM, David Bolterd...@gnome.org wrote: I'd like to add an optional tenth question: 10. If the foundation built a bike shed, what color would you paint the roof? ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: New GNOME Foundation Members
Welcome Willie!!! ...and everyone I don't know too :) cheers, D On 4/29/09 5:18 PM, Bruno Boaventura wrote: Hello everybody! The GNOME Foundation Membership Committee is proud to present the new members: - Alex Launi - Bertrand Lorentz - James Liggett - Marina Zhurakhinskaya - Philip Withnall - Rouquier Philippe - Sébastien Granjoux - Willie Walker If your name is on the list above, you're welcome!!! Feel embraced! Being part of GNOME Foundation you're contributing more with GNOME. If you aren't on the list, and you are close of one of them, please say Welcome to GNOME Foundation and embrace them. At your service, GNOME Foundation Membership Committee ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: hiring Stormy Peters as executive director
Richard M Stallman wrote: 'Here's a specific example of something I like about the GNOME community. It's important to them that things be beautiful. I put beautiful in quotes because I think the GNOME community means much more than pretty when they say beautiful. I think they mean: * Pretty. The desktop, your user interface, should look nice. It should be beautiful. * Easy to use. Functional. When things flow smoothly and everything is in just the right spot, right where you expect to find it, it's beautiful. * Done right. When things are coded right and they are reliable functional, easy to figure out, they are beautiful. I wouldn't disagree with any of those desiderata, but there are two more that no list of GNOME desiderata should omit: freedom and social solidarity. I agree with those additions; especially where social solidarity might capture the notion of inclusive design... and perhaps more dear to my heart: accessibility. cheers, David ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: GNOME Foundation Announces Program to Sponsor Accessibility Projects
Richard Stallman wrote: Note that this press release is not about free software, but about accessibility It's about accessibility for GNOME, thus accessibility for free software. The fact that GNOME is free software isn't the main point of this announcement, but it should be a side point. Yes. It is so important that accessibility be 'free'. It is so frustrating when these solutions are not shared and improved. Imagine not been allowed to fix a bug to enable someone! G (RMS I know how easy that is for you to imagine :) ) D ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: On Boston Summit organization and delegation [was Re: A question to candidates]
Hi Jeff, all, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Jeff Waugh quote who=Ghee Teo Have the board paused and thought why the Summit has to be Boston? Is it because most hackers work around Boston? May be it was the case. Because there's a critical mass of developers there -- most of both the Red Hat and Novell desktop teams. Dan Winship points out on IRC that while this was true when the Boston Summit was created, there aren't a lot of Novell desktop hackers left in Boston these days. Perhaps a roaming Columbus Day weekend conference (still in the USA) would be a good thing? Just a note... I can probably find some good space at the University of Toronto (Canada) if it was ever required. It is generally easier for folks in some countries (like China, and Russia) to get visas to come here, and it is a cheap flight for Bostonians. There is a Red Hat office here, not sure about other GNOMEy elements. cheers, David ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Executive director [was: Re: OOXML]
It is perhaps of interest to some that the Mozilla Foundation has not found it easy to find a new Executive Director (see http://www.mozilla.org/foundation/executive-director-search.html). Note the Mozilla position comes with salary and benefits. Are we thinking the same for GNOME? cheers, David Quim Gil wrote: fwiw I also think that an executive director would be good for the GNOME project, more needed than a business developer. At least GNOME gets the resources that needs for doing what is capable to do. This was not clear a year ago but as Jeff points out things evolve and we learn in the process. The profile could be someone already in the GNOME community with an open professional career a love for GNOME and open source, community development skills, good communication, able to travel and somewhat interested and skilled in money related stuff. I'm sure this person exists already in GNOME, and is reading these lines (or at least would read then in Planet GNOME). The secret is to start humble and small, and improving something every quarter. The problem is _only_ to find the name and surname, sending the offer on the right time. Perhaps opening the position publicly without a pressure of time, waiting for candidates? Anyway, stuff for the brains of the next board. ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Can we improve things?
Federico Mena Quintero wrote: On Fri, 2007-09-07 at 21:56 +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: I know Planet GNOME maintenance has been patchy -- I've been thinking about ways to alleviate that while keeping strong editorship in place. The Board has prompted me about this too, so I have plenty of incentive to resolve it without any of the poop flinging we've seen in this thread. Does this need to be any more complicated than having a planet-gnome module on SVN, and a README that says to add someone to the feed, put him in people.xml? Then anyone who has a SVN account can add someone else to Planet. I like this idea. I guess if we trust someone to commit code we should trust them not to abuse the planet... errr at least not planet-gnome anyways. D ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Towards more collaboration between the academic world and the GNOME community
Vincent Untz wrote: Le lundi 20 août 2007, à 13:33 -0400, David Bolter a écrit : Vincent Untz wrote: Le lundi 13 août 2007, à 05:55 +0300, Quim Gil a écrit : Remember this thread? Anybody kept working on a GNOME group focused on universities? What about moving the topic to ie marketing list with the objective of creating a formal committe? Fernando and I had a discussion about this at GUADEC. I'm also in contact with two or three other people who are interested in this. I think we'd need to create a mailing list and start organizing the work there, especially what will be the next actions. There are already a few ideas about how to make more use of GNOME for teaching. Of course, more focus on the research side would be great too! Fernando, do you want to take care of the mailing list creation? :-) This is very timely. I've been asked to head up a pilot project here at the University of Toronto with a goal of engaging students in open source development. Please let me know if I can be of help (committee or otherwise). Do we have someone to lead this effort? Oh, interesting! I'd love to hear more about this project! And if we can help in any way with this, tell us! We didn't find a leader yet, but there's a small group of interested people, so it seems we're more geared towards a committee thing. So you're really welcome to join us to share your ideas (and do more if you want). I think Fernando will ask for the mailing list today, so we'll hopefully have it soon. Thanks! Described roughly. the 2.5 pilot project with Bell is to produce personalized location aware information to students with mobile devices on a university campus. My role in leading the project is still being ironed out as I am pushing for pure open solutions. There isn't much money unfortunately, as it is a pilot project that could lead to more serious stuff. I've been blessed with too much to do lately so the offer of help is very well received! :) It will consist of browser based interactivity via RESTful web methods; but I am open to other ideas. I've been meaning to find out more about the online desktop effort to see if that is aligned... and GeoClue... The deliverables/goals are: student engagement, personalization, and something called a knowledge broker. all for now, D ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Towards more collaboration between the academic world and the GNOME community
Hi Richard, Richard Stallman wrote: This is very timely. I've been asked to head up a pilot project here at the University of Toronto with a goal of engaging students in open source development. If you launch a project of open source development, you can teach students how to participate in useful projects of collaborative development. That is a useful thing to do, in a practical sense. I agree 100%. This is something I've wanted to do since 2001 but the right grant hasn't come my way yet. I think practical experience in open source development/collaboration is of huge value to students. Dave Humphrey does this quite successfully with Mozilla projects at Seneca College. If you call the same project free/libre software development, you can teach students how to participate in collaborative development projects, and at the same time teach them to value and defend freedom for software users. That would serve a practical purpose and at the same time strengthen our community's civil virtues. So how about it? I think about this issue pretty much every time I write open source -- and it is your fault :) My preference is to go with the free/libre semantics and goals. The project was officially launched months ago and I'm coming in late but I'll see what I can do... I've been told I can make a lot of changes. cheers, David ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Towards more collaboration between the academic world and the GNOME community
Vincent Untz wrote: Le lundi 13 août 2007, à 05:55 +0300, Quim Gil a écrit : Remember this thread? Anybody kept working on a GNOME group focused on universities? What about moving the topic to ie marketing list with the objective of creating a formal committe? Fernando and I had a discussion about this at GUADEC. I'm also in contact with two or three other people who are interested in this. I think we'd need to create a mailing list and start organizing the work there, especially what will be the next actions. There are already a few ideas about how to make more use of GNOME for teaching. Of course, more focus on the research side would be great too! Fernando, do you want to take care of the mailing list creation? :-) This is very timely. I've been asked to head up a pilot project here at the University of Toronto with a goal of engaging students in open source development. Please let me know if I can be of help (committee or otherwise). Do we have someone to lead this effort? cheers, David ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Mellon awards update
Many of us are housed in Universities. If there is anyway I can help out let me know. Our group here at UofT is all about accessibility and education. I would be interested in using the money to create something like the google summer of code but with a strong GNOME accessibility focus. We need ways to draw fresh talent into the area. Who knows, maybe we could get some more diversity this way too. cheers, David Dave Neary wrote: Hi, A long time ago, I put out a call for Mellon award submissions - Federico answered the call, and we were candidates. However, other people put a lot of thought into theirs and when the winners were announced, it's unsurprising that universities grab all the prizes: http://rit.mellon.org/awards/matcpressrelease.pdf/ To complete with this, we would need to come up with a concrete proposal for how we would spend $100,000 on research development in a major area like accessibility, education or the web. Cheers, Dave. ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Mailing lists (Re: Candidacy: Joachim Noreiko)
Calum Benson wrote: On Tue, 2006-11-21 at 16:55 -0300, Mariano Suárez-Alvarez wrote: On Tue, 2006-11-21 at 18:25 +, Calum Benson wrote: On Tue, 2006-11-21 at 17:27 +0200, Baris Cicek wrote: Think about in utopia, wouldn't it be cool if we had ekiga or skype server, or even IM server which act like a call-center composed of volunteers. I'd like to see something like this too... not necessarily a literal 'call centre' with VOIP (although that's cool too), but at least some dedicated team of feedback-meisters to triage users' problems and comments (whether on mailing lists, IRC, forums or elsewhere), and make sure they all get to the appropriate place. That's pretty much a description of #gnome. #gnome seems to be as dead as a dodo these days, though, and there's an awful lot of GNOME users out there who don't use IRC anyway. Thinking aloud: I wonder if we could expose the #gnome channel (or similar) as perhaps a one-click Get Help menu item... perhaps under the Place menu. The user could have an automated nick that describes their distro etc. Friendly #gnome or #gnome-help (or whatever) lurkers could say recognize the nick as a help-needer and invite their questions. cheers, David Cheeri, Calum. ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: multi-culti board
Alvaro Lopez Ortega wrote: Quim Gil wrote: How nice would be to have Asian, American and African candidates! I suppose it would be fair enough.. but how nice would be to have blonde, chestnut and ginger candidates? eh? :-) What I mean is that, IMO, what really matters is that board people share a common interest in GNOME.. besides their nationality, eyes or hair colour. I think idea is to sure everyone knows they are welcome to participate and yes interest in GNOME is paramount! cheers, David ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Candidacy :: Glynn Foster
Ghee Teo wrote: Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Federico Mena Quintero On Wed, 2006-11-15 at 11:26 +1300, Glynn Foster wrote: I don't want to be a rock star, I just want to help. If more suitable candidates are running, I'm happy to cheer them from the sidelines. Too late, Glynn, you *are* already a rock star :) I feel there is a subtle distinction missing in the semantics of ROCK: We have people who are rockstars, and we have people who rock. These are not mutually exclusive. :-) So what are you Jeff, one who rocks or a rockstar? I am waiting for your submission of candidacy! (After reading your blog about where your heart really lies, what excuse do you give for not putting your name forwards :). -Ghee P.S. I think you are a Rock Star Gee, there are all these great rock stars around but the groupies (davidb shakes his head)... well... they look a lot like male hackers... sigh. D - Jeff ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list