RE: FoxView 99.2.1 trends
Hi Tim, Another way of adjusting a trend is by right-clicking on the date/time of a paused trend. A dialog box should pop up that may give you the functionality you need without the hassle of the large do-everything dialog. Of course if you have a lot of trends that don't include the date time at the bottom this won't work. Good Luck, Stephen -Original Message- From: Lowell, Tim: [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 8:20 AM To: 'Foxboro DCS Mail List' Subject: FoxView 99.2.1 trends We just got done upgrading all of our WP's to FoxView 99.2.1. For some reason, the on-line trend configuration tool was changed in this version to add 2 more steps to the process of calling up a historical trend. In version 99.2, you right-clicked the trend, clicked on the week, day, or hour button to set the time span of the trend, and hit OK, and you got the trend. In this version, you have to click on a Duration Settings... button, click on the week, day, or hour, then click OK, then click on a completely useless dialog box that offers the choice of the highest and lowest possible Scan rate based on your selection of the time span, then click OK again, and finally get the trend. Is there any way to speed this process up with FoxView settings so that our console guys can bypass all these steps and just get a historical trend quickly? Why does it ask you for scan rate now? It used to be, whichever time span you picked determined the scan rate. This worked well, and nobody ever requested a change in any of the International Users Groups I ever went to. Often times, there isn't even a valid lower scan rate, so that choice is greyed out and you must select the upper scan rate anyway. It seems to me that if someone wanted a choice of scan rates, you could make a button just for them, instead of forcing everyone to go through a separate dialog box, which often only has one choice. Any ideas out there, other than re-installing FoxView 99.2? Tim --- This list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by the Foxboro Company. All postings from this list are the work of list subscribers and no warranty is made or implied as to the accuracy of any information disseminated through this medium. By subscribing to this list you agree to hold the list sponsor(s) blameless for any and all mishaps which might occur due to your application of information received from this mailing list. To be removed from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe foxboro in the Subject. Or, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: FoxView 99.2.1 trends
OOPS! I meant to say LEFT-CLICKING on the date/time of a paused trend. Stephen -Original Message- From: Murray, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 10:30 AM To: 'Foxboro DCS Mail List' Subject: RE: FoxView 99.2.1 trends Hi Tim, Another way of adjusting a trend is by right-clicking on the date/time of a paused trend. A dialog box should pop up that may give you the functionality you need without the hassle of the large do-everything dialog. Of course if you have a lot of trends that don't include the date time at the bottom this won't work. Good Luck, Stephen -Original Message- From: Lowell, Tim: [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 8:20 AM To: 'Foxboro DCS Mail List' Subject: FoxView 99.2.1 trends We just got done upgrading all of our WP's to FoxView 99.2.1. For some reason, the on-line trend configuration tool was changed in this version to add 2 more steps to the process of calling up a historical trend. In version 99.2, you right-clicked the trend, clicked on the week, day, or hour button to set the time span of the trend, and hit OK, and you got the trend. In this version, you have to click on a Duration Settings... button, click on the week, day, or hour, then click OK, then click on a completely useless dialog box that offers the choice of the highest and lowest possible Scan rate based on your selection of the time span, then click OK again, and finally get the trend. Is there any way to speed this process up with FoxView settings so that our console guys can bypass all these steps and just get a historical trend quickly? Why does it ask you for scan rate now? It used to be, whichever time span you picked determined the scan rate. This worked well, and nobody ever requested a change in any of the International Users Groups I ever went to. Often times, there isn't even a valid lower scan rate, so that choice is greyed out and you must select the upper scan rate anyway. It seems to me that if someone wanted a choice of scan rates, you could make a button just for them, instead of forcing everyone to go through a separate dialog box, which often only has one choice. Any ideas out there, other than re-installing FoxView 99.2? Tim --- This list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by the Foxboro Company. All postings from this list are the work of list subscribers and no warranty is made or implied as to the accuracy of any information disseminated through this medium. By subscribing to this list you agree to hold the list sponsor(s) blameless for any and all mishaps which might occur due to your application of information received from this mailing list. To be removed from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe foxboro in the Subject. Or, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: AW: AW: Problems with concatenated and mirrored disks on AW51 B
Hi All, We have two AWs with mirrored concatenated drives. I got curious yesterday and ran dft show_status was amazed and embarrassed to find one of the AWs had been un-mirrored for quite some time. I read HH745 and HH835, the entire section on mirrored drives in the Foxboro System Admin Guide (BO193ND rev F), and was still a bit mystified. I then went to the Sun documentation web site at docs.sun.com and found a few manuals on the DiskSuite software. I'm not sure what version of DiskSuite we have but the manual for 4.0 looked pretty good. The main thing I was looking for was an explanation of Needs Maintenance, and I found the following: Okay - The component is operating properly. Resyncing - The component is actively being resync'ed. Maintenance - The component has encountered an I/O error or an open error. All reads and writes to and from this component have been discontinued. See Replacing and Enabling Submirror Components on page 96 for information on component replacement. Last Erred - The component has encountered an I/O error or an open error, however, the data is not replicated elsewhere due to another component failure. I/O is still performed on the component. If I/O errors result, the mirror I/O will fail. See Replacing and Enabling Submirror Components on page 96 for information on component replacement. The entire manual can be viewed online or apparently downloaded as a pdf file and is chock-full of information. On our AW metastat -t showed one submirror needing maintenance on each metamirror, and I tracked the date down to a day when we did a dump 0 on the AW. I used the procedure in HH835 to metadetach each Nds_Maint submirror from its metamirror, and then metattach it back. The entire procedure took about 45 minutes because I waited until each submirror was resynced before doing the next one. Everything seemed to go well and the different status checks (dft show_status, metastat -t, metadb -i) indicate everything is mirrored and okay. I guess mirroring will be added to my list of gotchas to monitor from now on! Thanks for tipping me off to a problem I had, Steve Murray Asarco -Original Message- From: Warren Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 11:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: AW: AW: Problems with concatenated and mirrored disks on AW51B I am surprised that Foxboro support did not tell you to do a dft replace_sys ESPx SCSI3 this is a front end command to the metareplace command that is mentioned in the output. wb From: Weiss, Andreas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks a lot!!! E5511U# metastat d0 d0: Mirror Submirror 0: d10 State: Needs maintenance Pass: 1 Read option: roundrobin (default) Write option: parallel (default) Size: 76000 blocks d10: Submirror of d0 State: Needs maintenance Invoke: after replacing Maintenance components: metareplace d0 c0t3d0s0 new device Size: 76000 blocks Stripe 0: Device Start Block Dbase StateHot Spare c0t3d0s0 0 NoLast Erred --- This list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by the Foxboro Company. All postings from this list are the work of list subscribers and no warranty is made or implied as to the accuracy of any information disseminated through this medium. By subscribing to this list you agree to hold the list sponsor(s) blameless for any and all mishaps which might occur due to your application of information received from this mailing list. To be removed from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe foxboro in the Subject. Or, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Daylight Savings
Hi Bo, We live in Arizona so we don't HAVE dst! Cheers, Stephen Murray Asarco Sunny Arizona -Original Message- From: Stear, Bo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 1:11 PM To: 'Foxboro Mail Forum' Subject: Daylight Savings How many, if any, of you users either do NOT change to daylight savings time or know some other company what does not. We are considering not following time changes for DST since there are still so many persistent problems with I/A when moving the clock backwards. This transmission is for the intended addressee only and is confidential information. If you have received this transmission in error, please delete it and notify the sender. The contents of this E-mail are the opinion of the writer only and are not endorsed by ASARCO Inc. unless expressly stated otherwise. --- This list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by the Foxboro Company. All postings from this list are the work of list subscribers and no warranty is made or implied as to the accuracy of any information disseminated through this medium. By subscribing to this list you agree to hold the list sponsor(s) blameless for any and all mishaps which might occur due to your application of information received from this mailing list. To be removed from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe foxboro in the Subject. Or, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Re[2]: Adding new AW51E to nodebus
Hi Daren, Thanks for the info on the CP rebooting. I just re-read HH845 and ran ckmacadr on our current system to see what our addresses are. Using the cp_util to change the host MAC address looks like a much less disruptive procedure than rebooting the CPs. I guess a final test would be to download an FBM afterwards. Thanks, Stephen Murray Asarco -Original Message- From: Daren Bishop [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 5:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re[2]: Adding new AW51E to nodebus Stephen, To change out the AW you do not have to reboot the CP's to get the correct MAC address to them, but you do have to run a script on the CP's. See HH845 to get the procedure. Also you might need QF 991316 for this. It does not register itself in /usr/fox/sp/lastinst/QF_INFO so you have to look for these files : /opt/fox/bin/tools/ckmacadr /opt/fox/bin/tools/ckmacadr.stn /opt/fox/bin/tools/get_style Hope this helps, Daren Bishop ASC Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] This transmission is for the intended addressee only and is confidential information. If you have received this transmission in error, please delete it and notify the sender. The contents of this E-mail are the opinion of the writer only and are not endorsed by ASARCO Inc. unless expressly stated otherwise. --- This list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by the Foxboro Company. All postings from this list are the work of list subscribers and no warranty is made or implied as to the accuracy of any information disseminated through this medium. By subscribing to this list you agree to hold the list sponsor(s) blameless for any and all mishaps which might occur due to your application of information received from this mailing list. To be removed from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe foxboro in the Subject. Or, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Adding new AW51E to nodebus
Hi All, I am adding an AW51E to our existing 6.1 system. Our current system consists of four AW51Bs, four WP51Bs, and three X-terminals on three nodes connected with a carrier band LAN. I have updated the System Definition and created a new committal disk, installed the 6.1 software on the new AW51E, and created the reconcile disk. I then installed FoxView 99.2.1. I have done the installation in stand-alone mode (not connected to the DNBI) and everything seems to be installed and working correctly. I now want to plug the DNBI into the nodebus and connect the new AW to the DNBI. *** A few questions *** 1. The Foxboro documentation covers installing or upgrading the entire system, but I am just adding one AW. When do I use the new committal disk in the other existing AW/WPs? Before or after I plug the new DNBI and AW into the nodebus? The new AW will not host any CPs or WPs, so it might not matter. The existing System Monitor that will be watching the new AW does not know about it yet, so should I use the committal disk in at least that AW prior to plugging in the new DNBI AW? Or plug in the DNBI and boot up the new AW first? 2. Will I have to reboot each of the other AWs WPs after running the committal disk through them? I am only adding a station and not upgrading the I/A software, so I am unsure if I need to reboot the existing stations. 3. What should I look for to indicate problems on the nodebus after installing the new AW? I would rather see a problem developing before the nodebus just locks up! 4. What is the likelihood of causing problems on the nodebus with a new station? 5. After I get the bugs worked out of this new station I intend to replace an existing AW51B with another AW51E. That station WILL host CPs and WPs and have a System Monitor. Do I need to reboot each hosted CP during that process? 6. Any other tips or suggestions? Thanks, Stephen Murray Asarco [EMAIL PROTECTED] (520) 356-4230 This transmission is for the intended addressee only and is confidential information. If you have received this transmission in error, please delete it and notify the sender. The contents of this E-mail are the opinion of the writer only and are not endorsed by ASARCO Inc. unless expressly stated otherwise. --- This list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by the Foxboro Company. All postings from this list are the work of list subscribers and no warranty is made or implied as to the accuracy of any information disseminated through this medium. By subscribing to this list you agree to hold the list sponsor(s) blameless for any and all mishaps which might occur due to your application of information received from this mailing list. To be removed from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe foxboro in the Subject. Or, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Adding new AW51E to nodebus
Hi Norm, The AW51B I plan to replace does not hold the CSA, but since the MAC address will change I would want to make sure that the CP's will be able to find and boot off the new AW51E. I do not know if I have to reboot the CPs right away or if they could stay on line for a few hours while I made sure the AW was working properly. I should be able to do the load-all prior to connecting the new AW to the node while I am loading the rest of the software and doing the loadh50 for the historian. Thanks, Stephen Murray Asarco -Original Message- From: Tessier, Norm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 1:46 PM To: 'Foxboro DCS Mail List' Subject: RE: Adding new AW51E to nodebus Yes, if you are replacing the 'B' box the CPs and Gateways will all have to be rebooted. The 'E' box will have 'Initialized' day0 images for all of the hosted CPs and Gateways. These should have a 'LoadAll' done on an off-line test bed done for all of the CPs and Gateways. Do this with a SaveAll made after an UpLoad done just before you wish to change out the Host. If you cannot do this, a LoadAll must be performed on the running system for the Stations hosted by this 'E' box. It will require significantly more down time to do it on-line. CSA saves and merges may be required, as well. Especially if the 'B' box you are replacing hosts CSA. If it gets this complicated, you should get assistance from Field Service. Norm Tessier Regional Lifeline Specialist District 7 This transmission is for the intended addressee only and is confidential information. If you have received this transmission in error, please delete it and notify the sender. The contents of this E-mail are the opinion of the writer only and are not endorsed by ASARCO Inc. unless expressly stated otherwise. --- This list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by the Foxboro Company. All postings from this list are the work of list subscribers and no warranty is made or implied as to the accuracy of any information disseminated through this medium. By subscribing to this list you agree to hold the list sponsor(s) blameless for any and all mishaps which might occur due to your application of information received from this mailing list. To be removed from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe foxboro in the Subject. Or, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OAJ startup at boot
Hi, I am trying to start the Operator Action Journal automatically at boot time on I/A version 6.1 system and on a 4.3 system. The docs for I/A version 4.2 say to put them in the wp51_glbls file, but the I/A version 6.1 6.2 docs say they belong in the init.users file. There is a section in the wp51_glbls file listing the variables, but there is nothing in the init.users file. Also, the wp51_glbls files shows the OJLOG variable on the same line as gctsize=14 - but the 6.2 6.1 docs show OJLOG on the line before gctsize. Is gctsize the size of the OJLOG variable or the dmtlist? Does it matter whether the Operator Action Journal variables are listed in the wp51_glbls file or the init.users file? Is it a problem if they are listed in both? Also, if I can get OAJ started automatically at boot, does each Display Manager's OAJ automatically start as well? Right now I have to start each display manager's log, and if the DM is re-started the log needs to be re-started as well. * This is from our globals file: # @(#)35.1 wp51_glbls # #Operator Action Journal # gctsize=14#OJLOG=ELP00,Equaldb dmtlist=OJLOG gctsize=80 #LP00,89-01-01 12:00,99-01-01 12:00,STATION89012,COMPOUND9012,BLOCK6789012 dmtlist=OJRPT * This is what the FoxDoc for I/A version 6.2 says: Enabling the Action Journal at Boot Time When the WP boots up, Action Journal reporting is disabled. To enable this feature at boot time, you must change the OJLOG variable in the following file depending on the platform: Station Type File AW51/WP51 /usr/fox/wp/data/init.user AW50/WP50 /usr/fox/wp/data/init.user WP70 /usr/fox/wp/data/init.user PW /usr/fox/hi/init.glbls WP30 /usr/fox/hi/gc4_glbls WP20 /usr/fox/hi/gc3_glbls For more information on the init.user or init.glbls file refer to the Display Engineering for 50 Series (B0193MQ) document. Add the following variables in the appropriate AW70 and PW file. The variable OJLOG has the following format: OJLOG=[E,D]printer,[E,D]historian gctsize=14 dmtlist=OJLOG *** The FoxDoc for I/A version 6.1 says about the same thing, but also inlcudes a blank dmtlist variable. I don't know if that was a misprint or if it needs to be there. Add the following variables in the appropriate file. The variable OJLOG has the following format: OJLOG=[E,D]printer,[E,D]historian gctsize=14 dmtlist=OJLOG dmtlist where: E == Enable D == Disable printer == name of the printer (for example, LP01) historian == name of the historian (for example, hist01) For example, to enable historian logging without printer logging, define OJLOG as follows: OJLOG=DLP01,Ehist01 See Display Engineering for more information on modifying init.user. or init.glbls. * Thanks for any information you might have - I just hate rebooting the AW several times if I don't have to. Stephen Murray Asarco This transmission is for the intended addressee only and is confidential information. If you have received this transmission in error, please delete it and notify the sender. The contents of this E-mail are the opinion of the writer only and are not endorsed by ASARCO Inc. unless expressly stated otherwise. --- This list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by the Foxboro Company. All postings from this list are the work of list subscribers and no warranty is made or implied as to the accuracy of any information disseminated through this medium. By subscribing to this list you agree to hold the list sponsor(s) blameless for any and all mishaps which might occur due to your application of information received from this mailing list. To be removed from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe foxboro in the Subject. Or, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OAJ startup at boot
Hi Sean, The same /usr/fox/wp/data/DMNAME directory structure is on the 4.3 the 6.1 systems here, and I have heard that there are few differences between 4.3 6.1. I did notice that the timestamp on both the glbls files are the same as my last rebootation. Thanks for the clues, Stephen Murray -Original Message- From: Sean Redmond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 1:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OAJ startup at boot I have seen the same thing also. After a we bit of investigation, it looks like /usr/fox/wp/data/wp51_glbls is being overwritten each time a reboot(ation) happens. I am not sure what writes to it yet. I did notice a file called /usr/fox/wp/data/DMNAME/DNAME_glbls And I can't recall seeing this on earlier releases. After playing a bit i.e moving files and rebooting, I couldn't get a display manager up, so I gave up, and hid for a while in the corner. I made the changes in init.user, but they didn't kick in. In prevous version 4.2.x if you changed wp51_glbls you just needed to restart the display manager. A change to init.user required a reboot(ation). Not much help, but at least the new word rebootation got some air play. Sean This transmission is for the intended addressee only and is confidential information. If you have received this transmission in error, please delete it and notify the sender. The contents of this E-mail are the opinion of the writer only and are not endorsed by ASARCO Inc. unless expressly stated otherwise. --- This list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by the Foxboro Company. All postings from this list are the work of list subscribers and no warranty is made or implied as to the accuracy of any information disseminated through this medium. By subscribing to this list you agree to hold the list sponsor(s) blameless for any and all mishaps which might occur due to your application of information received from this mailing list. To be removed from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe foxboro in the Subject. Or, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: find command ussage?
Hi John, I just removed a 13 MB core file from one of our root directories, core file left courtesy of Fox Select . . . The root directory seems to be a popular place for all the Foxview stuff to puke core files. Stephen Murray -Original Message- From: Windle,John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 12:29 PM To: 'Foxboro DCS Mail List' Subject: RE: find command ussage? I would be very reluctant to start any 'find' command from root (/). You can never tell what may be mounted to your system via either rmount or mount. You can go looking through a mounted cdrom looking for a core file to delete if you want to (mounted on /cdrom) but it seems like a waste of time to me. This transmission is for the intended addressee only and is confidential information. If you have received this transmission in error, please delete it and notify the sender. The contents of this E-mail are the opinion of the writer only and are not endorsed by ASARCO Inc. unless expressly stated otherwise. --- This list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by the Foxboro Company. All postings from this list are the work of list subscribers and no warranty is made or implied as to the accuracy of any information disseminated through this medium. By subscribing to this list you agree to hold the list sponsor(s) blameless for any and all mishaps which might occur due to your application of information received from this mailing list. To be removed from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe foxboro in the Subject. Or, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Display Manager
Hi Noman, I can only partially help you with the script issue. Alex Johnson wrote a very good analysis of the problems that may occur when using applic on 3/23/00. One of the key points was to always use the ampersand character after your command line. QUOTED TEXT FROM ALEX JOHNSON's email of 3/23/00 1) Put the at the end of all commands that are invoked by applic. In your example, you should write: :C0WP04DMCMD := dmcmd applic /opt/home/frits/hello.scr ; not :C0WP04DMCMD := dmcmd applic /opt/home/frits/hello.scr ; 2) Use dmcmd run /bin/rexec $TMHST pgm arg1 ... argn I rather like the second one because I am quite likely to forget to add an ampersand () to the end of ALL of my applics. This failure would result in a subtle error. I hate subtle errors! Whereas, the second approach does not lend itself to subtle errors. Only major ones which are easy to find ones. END OF QUOTED TEXT FROM ALEX JOHNSON's email of 3/23/00 Hope this helps, (if not maybe Alex will let me re-send the entire email) Stephen Murray Asarco -Original Message- From: Noman Abu-Farha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2000 7:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Display Manager Hi i have few questions about the foxboro I/A series : 1- I wrote one small script for printing a file using the cat command cat filename /dev/LP0X I want to configure this script in the display manger through the display configurator , so I draw one button , then I configured the selecting of the button as follows , applic {my_script_filename} . But this is not working. Why ? This transmission is for the intended addressee only and is confidential information. If you have received this transmission in error, please delete it and notify the sender. The contents of this E-mail are the opinion of the writer only and are not endorsed by ASARCO Inc. unless expressly stated otherwise. --- This list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by the Foxboro Company. All postings from this list are the work of list subscribers and no warranty is made or implied as to the accuracy of any information disseminated through this medium. By subscribing to this list you agree to hold the list sponsor(s) blameless for any and all mishaps which might occur due to your application of information received from this mailing list. To be removed from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe foxboro in the Subject. Or, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Capturing Data
Hi, Check out the Foxboro product called Data for Windows. This allows you to extract data from the Foxboro I/A system in a variety of ways including live data form the Object Manager and historical data from the historian. This product does require a personal computer running Microsoft Windows connected to your I/A system. If you have to do your data extraction on the Foxboro machines you can use omget in scripts to get live data or use isql in scripts to get historical data from the Informix (legacy) historian. omget example to dump just the value of some CBPs: /opt/fox/bin/tools/omget ANALOG_IN:CALC_FULL.RO01 FDGRIN:RIN13.FDRIN2 FDGRIN:RIN11.FDRIN2 FLOT10:G2_BOOL2.IN_2 FLOT10:G2_BOOL2.IN_3 FLOT10:G2_BOOL2.IN_5 PRODUCTION:S.IO01 PRODUCTION:RECOVERY.RO01 PRODUCTION:SAVEDMTONS.RI01 PRODUCTION:SAVEDMTONS.RI02 PRODUCTION:SAVEDMTONS.RI03 PRODUCTION:SAVEDMTONS.RI04 PRODUCTION:EIMCO_CALC.II02 PRODUCTION:HDS1_4.RO02 PRODUCTION:SECT7_CU.RO03|awk '{print $3}' /opt/steve/data1.tmp You can get up to thirty values at a time from omget, but Alex Johnson warns that this can be a problem on large systems because omget uses broadcasts to read the values. At one time I was omgetting around 75 values with three different omgets in a script that runs every two minutes. I sleep for two seconds between omgets, and I never saw any problems, but I have a small single node system. I have pared this list down to three calls of 10 to 14 values apiece it does not seem to cause any problems for me. Start small and see if this gets you the live data you need, but 100 values every one minute may get you into trouble! isql sample to get information from the Informix (legacy) historian. This fragment is from a script I wrote to put data back into a 24 hour reduction group after the historian has been turned off (24 hour reduction groups come up empty if you have the historian off for any reason during the day!). # (You will have to provide the times and the proper historian table names) isql histox -! SELECT seq, MAX(time_tag) - 1620 AS time_tag, pt_id_key, status_tag, MAX(halfhr_max) AS daily_max FROM halfhr_max WHERE time_tag BETWEEN $TIME3 AND $TIME4 AND pt_id_key IN (SELECT DISTINCT pt_id_key FROM power) GROUP BY seq, pt_id_key, status_tag ORDER BY pt_id_key DESC; ! Or if you do programming the possiblities are endless! :-) Stephen Murray Asarco -Original Message- From: Eudilson Núñez Cossio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 1:47 PM To: 'Foxboro DCS Mail List' Subject: Capturing Data Hi list, I looking for a way to capture data from historian or direct from object manager in order to analize this information out of line. The requirementes are: Time sampling: 1 minute or less. Data type: plain text Variables: aprox. 100 Period of data: aprox. We are using the normal tools that comes with Foxboro I/A DCS: Config Historian Data Display (choose current data, sample, fileter point name variables) Reports ASCII File But this procedure only save four variables and we need so many variables to save completed simultaneusly. This procedure fails when we specify more than four variables and take so many time doing in this way. In the past we tested a method using the crontab and prelude s.s. on a PW-OE (PC Venix) but this procedure writes on hard disk frequently (every minute) and the computer come slow and is dangerous because reduce life of hard disk . On the other hand today we do not use PW-OE any more. I would like to know other procedure to reach this purpose. Thanks in advance. --- This list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by the Foxboro Company. All postings from this list are the work of list subscribers and no warranty is made or implied as to the accuracy of any information disseminated through this medium. By subscribing to this list you agree to hold the list sponsor(s) blameless for any and all mishaps which might occur due to your application of information received from this mailing list. To be removed from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe foxboro in the Subject. Or, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reboots, Patches, Stuff
Hi Stan, What is the known Solaris bug what is the Sun fix? Any idea what the patch might break if one applied it before Foxboro evaluated it? I know Solaris is the operating system Foxboro used as a base for our I/A, but I don't believe our software is the same as the Solaris you could buy off the shelf. Modifications to Solaris made by Foxboro for compatibility with past versions of I/A can (I'm told) make regular Sun patches dangerous to us. Stephen Murray Asarco -Original Message- From: Stan Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2000 6:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now onto my soapbox. The reason that the AP rebooted this moring is because of a known bug in Solaris 2.5.1. This bug is fixed in newer releases, and there is a SUN patch for 2.5.1 I am having a real problem with living with problems that SUN has fixed, but Foxboro has not blessed the fix! What are other peoples opinion on this? -- Stan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] 843-745-3154 Charleston SC. --- This list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by the Foxboro Company. All postings from this list are the work of list subscribers and no warranty is made or implied as to the accuracy of any information disseminated through this medium. By subscribing to this list you agree to hold the list sponsor(s) blameless for any and all mishaps which might occur due to your application of information received from this mailing list. To be removed from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe foxboro in the Subject. Or, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Re: Scripts to backup CP database and CSA to an alternate sta tion
Hi Ron, I have looked at the OFHA several times and never decided to implement it. I would like to get a copy of your .pdf document if you can send it to me. Thanks in advance, Stephen Murray Asarco [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Deen, Ron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 6:58 AM To: Foxboro DCS Mail List Subject: RE: Re: Scripts to backup CP database and CSA to an alternate sta tion Gents, For those interested in OFHA. I have compiled a PDF doc to setup the hardware and software. Drop me a line if anybody is interested --- This list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by the Foxboro Company. All postings from this list are the work of list subscribers and no warranty is made or implied as to the accuracy of any information disseminated through this medium. By subscribing to this list you agree to hold the list sponsor(s) blameless for any and all mishaps which might occur due to your application of information received from this mailing list. To be removed from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe foxboro in the Subject. Or, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: XVision on Win98
x-html!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN HTML HEAD META HTTP-EQUIV=Content-Type CONTENT=text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 META NAME=Generator CONTENT=MS Exchange Server version 5.5.2448.0 TITLERE: XVision on Win98 /TITLE /HEAD BODY PFONT SIZE=2We use a combination of Exceed, Go Global, Windows 3.1 (yeah I know its old), Windows 95, Windows 98, and Windows NT./FONT /P PFONT SIZE=2nbsp; Depending on the operating system and video card, we can use either 256 colors or True Color settings.nbsp; They all act a little differently.nbsp; The most bizarre problem is using Exceed on a Windows 98 machine.nbsp; If you open a Foxview display from one AW and then an old Display Manager from another AW, the old DM screen is completely black.nbsp; If you open the old DM first amp; then the Foxview, everything works fine.nbsp; Go Global does not have this problem (but it does have a few others), and the same machine using Windows NT (dual-boot) works fine with either Exceed or Go Global./FONT/P PFONT SIZE=2nbsp; On the machine I am using right now, a Windows 98, Exceed behaves differently in 256 and True Color modes.nbsp; In the old DM the normal outline box that appears when the mouse cursor is over a quot;pickablequot; field only shows up in 256 color mode.nbsp; In True color you have to know which fields are pickable, and the yellow outline box appears only after you have selected the field./FONT/P PFONT SIZE=2nbsp; In a Foxview session the outline box shows up all the time .nbsp; .nbsp; ./FONT /P PFONT SIZE=2nbsp; Any of the Foxboro utility type programs like the ICC or the Historian have problems when run from the PCs, so I don't use them unless I really have too.nbsp; If you can remember where the disappearing fields in the ICC are it isn't TOO bad, but it still makes me nervous when I'm at home amp; I have to use it.nbsp; /FONT/P PFONT SIZE=2nbsp; I guess there is no perfect PC access method!/FONT /P PFONT SIZE=2Stephen Murray/FONT BRFONT SIZE=2Asarco/FONT /P PFONT SIZE=2gt; -Original Message-/FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; From: Daren Bishop [A HREF=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED];mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A]/FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 1:43 PM/FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; Subject: Re: XVision on Win98 /FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; /FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; /FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; Duc, /FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; /FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; I know this is no help to you, but I run Go-Global here /FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; and our '95 /FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; machines do fine. However, I have '98 SE on my home PC and have /FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; similar problems. In ICC sometimes I have to repick all /FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; the fields /FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; (which are blank) to get data to appear and then it will /FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; allow me to /FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; enter values, the same happens in Select.nbsp; /FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; /FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; We are looking at having remote PC displays, investigating /FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; possibilities./FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; /FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; Personal feelings anyone on this? /FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; /FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; Daren Bishop/FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; Process Engineer/FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; Ameripol/Synpol/FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; [EMAIL PROTECTED]/FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; /FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; /FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; __ Reply Separator /FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; _/FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; Subject: XVision on Win98 /FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; Author:nbsp; quot;Foxboro DCS Mail Listquot; /FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; at /FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; INTERNET-MAIL/FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; Date:nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; 5/1/00 11:37 AM/FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; /FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; /FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; Got a weird one/FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; /FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; Currently we use SCO XVision to show remote display managers /FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; on our PCs /FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; for engineering work. (XVision is equivalent to Hummingbird eXceed. /FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; Corporate IT dictates that we use XVision instead of eXceed.) The /FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; particulars are: XVision version 7.0 32-bit server running on /FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; Win95, IBM /FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; Pentium 133 MHZ PC with 16 or 32 MB RAM./FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; /FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; In preparation for new desktop PCs being deployed this summer, I'm /FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; testing the same XVision software
RE: Classic historian data location(s)
x-html!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN HTML HEAD META HTTP-EQUIV=Content-Type CONTENT=text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 META NAME=Generator CONTENT=MS Exchange Server version 5.5.2448.0 TITLERE: Classic historian data location(s)/TITLE /HEAD BODY PFONT SIZE=2Hi Stan,/FONT /P PFONT SIZE=2gt; nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; How do the extended samples relate to what goes in the database?/FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; Oh, and where are they located?/FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; /FONT BRFONT SIZE=2nbsp; The SAM files are located in /opt/fox/hstorian/sample./FONT /P PFONT SIZE=2nbsp; There is a very good write up in the Historian manual in the overview section on the relationship between the many parts of the Historian.nbsp; See section 2 in the manual B0193BL./FONT/P PFONT SIZE=2gt; nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; I don't think we are doing this. It's not the default /FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; install to use/FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; anything but raw partitons, correct?/FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; /FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; And thnaks for the info./FONT /P PFONT SIZE=2nbsp; By default you get a tiny raw partition for the Historian.nbsp; You can make this initial raw partition much larger if you do it at the time of system installation, but afterwards it is too late.nbsp; So Informix can use a part of the filesystem as quot;simulatedquot; raw space to give you more room to store reduction data and other neat stuff in the Informix table spaces.nbsp; /FONT/P PFONT SIZE=2nbsp; You get this additional room by quot;cookingquot; a bit of the filesystem area so it can be used along with the initial raw space.nbsp; (hey I didn't think up these terms :-)/FONT/P PFONT SIZE=2nbsp; See section 13 of the Historian manual B0193BL for a very brief mention of the cooking procedure.nbsp; There is a much better write up in the Helpful Hints number HH528./FONT/P BR PFONT SIZE=2Good Luck,/FONT /P PFONT SIZE=2Stephen Murray/FONT BRFONT SIZE=2Asarco/FONT /P /BODY /HTML/x-html
RE: XVision on Win98
Hi Alex, Excellent tip! I have depended on memorizing the location of the Cancel button in the ICC to get me out of trouble in Go Global when I have a block open (Buffer is not available then). To re-display disappeared menus I have been going back and forth between View Compound List View Blocks/ECBs. I can usually find this because it is the top menu item, and I just keep easing down the screen as I click until I hit it. I love operating the computer by Braille! :-) It would be a lot easier to use the Buffer when the top menu is visible. Thanks, Stephen Murray Asarco -Original Message- From: Johnson,Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 4:41 PM To: Foxboro DCS Mail List Subject: RE: XVision on Win98 FYI, Many of the buttons on the ICC under GoGlobal can be refreshed by going into and out of the Paste Buffer. (The BUFFER pick on the ICC's menu bar.) --- This list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by the Foxboro Company. All postings from this list are the work of list subscribers and no warranty is made or implied as to the accuracy of any information disseminated through this medium. By subscribing to this list you agree to hold the list sponsor(s) blameless for any and all mishaps which might occur due to your application of information received from this mailing list. To be removed from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe foxboro in the Subject. Or, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Control Between Different Nodes
x-html!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN HTML HEAD META HTTP-EQUIV=Content-Type CONTENT=text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 META NAME=Generator CONTENT=MS Exchange Server version 5.5.2448.0 TITLERE: Control Between Different Nodes/TITLE /HEAD BODY PFONT SIZE=2Hi Diane,/FONT /P PFONT SIZE=2nbsp; It is kind of a crude way of connecting - but could you just pull up another Display Manager (or FoxView) on one node?nbsp;nbsp; I don't do it very often between our two systems because one is FoxView amp; one is using the old Display manager, but it does work./FONT/P PFONT SIZE=2nbsp; We are set up to run Exceed on our LAN PCs, and you just log one system's AW into the other system as user quot;iaquot;.nbsp; The .profile in the /opt/ia directory sets up the DM or FoxView./FONT/P PFONT SIZE=2nbsp; I have no idea whether this can confuse the two nodes amp; I have never had them connected this way for more than a half hour.nbsp; The system using the old Display Manager gets its color palette whacked out if you start a FoxView on it, but there does not seem to be any other problem.nbsp; The FoxView system seems to run the old Display Manager just fine./FONT/P PFONT SIZE=2gt; -Original Message-/FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; From: D.B. Harris [A HREF=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED];mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A]/FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2000 11:05 PM/FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; To: Foxboro ListServer/FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; Subject: Control Between Different Nodes/FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; /FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; /FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; Where I am working the plant has 2 nodes (only connected by /FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; 2nd ethernet/FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; port). These plant are each very different from the other, /FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; but the Operators/FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; have asked if they could see 2 blocks from the other node. /FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; Does anyone know/FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; if there is a way to quot;writequot; this info. to the other node via /FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; ethernet,/FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; i.e., without having to connect the 2 via Carrierband LAN or COMM?/FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; Thanks in advance for any assistance you might lend./FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; Diane Harris/FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; Control System Services, Inc./FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; P.O. Box 12656/FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; Lake Charles, LA. 70612-2656/FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; [EMAIL PROTECTED]/FONT BRFONT SIZE=2gt; A HREF=http://www.controlsystemservices.com; TARGET=_blankhttp://www.controlsystemservices.com/A/FONT /P /BODY /HTML/x-html