Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg
On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 21:41:31 +0200, Joost van der Sluis wrote: >Op 12-04-2020 om 12:01 schreef Bo Berglund via fpc-pascal: >> This is something I have been wondering about for a while.. >> When I install FPC from sources I have to create a config file by >> using this command: >> >> /home/user/lib/fpc/$FPCVER/samplecfg "/home/user/lib/fpc/$FPCVER" >> "/home/user" >> (replace "user" with the actual username such as pi or whatever) >> >> The problem with this is that the generated file is named fpc.cfg so I >> have to do a rename afterwards and this is not always remembered (like >> yesterday). > >Can you try running samplecfg without the second parameter and without >root-rights? Then it should create a .fpc.cfg in your home-directory. So >there is no need to rename the file. > >If you supply a second parameter with the location where you want to >write the configuration-file to, samplecfg does not know it is in your >home-directory, so it will use a normal, visible, file. At least that is >how I would say it should work. > I did so using the syntax in my script but removing the target dir argument. This is what I saw (I had backed up .fpc.cfg first) ~$ /home/bosse/lib/fpc/3.0.4/samplecfg "/home/bosse/lib/fpc/3.0.4" Running on linux No write premission in /etc. Writing sample configuration file to /home/bosse/.fpc.cfg <== HERE! Writing sample configuration file to /home/bosse/lib/fpc/3.0.4/ide/text/fp.cfg Saved old "fp.cfg" to "fp.bak" Writing sample configuration file to /home/bosse/lib/fpc/3.0.4/ide/text/fp.ini Saved old "fp.ini" to "fp.bak" Writing sample configuration file to /home/bosse/.config/fppkg.cfg Writing sample configuration file to /home/bosse/.fppkg/config/default Seems like with the omission of arg 2 the result is thath it writes to a lot of places including $home (using the leading period in the name). I don't know if my original script entry would have only written to home since it had a target as arg 2? -- Bo Berglund Developer in Sweden ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg
> (Even in an apology, you call us a tri... well, maybe there is a reason > for that) For me a tribe of gurus is not insult, nor tribe, nor gurus, sorry if you feel it like that. I surprised by so much reaction for a patch that I proposed. I will not annoy you anymore, promise. And if you dont want to accept my apologize, sorry for you and me. Take care of you. Fre;D -- Sent from: http://free-pascal-general.1045716.n5.nabble.com/ ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg
Op 12-04-2020 om 12:01 schreef Bo Berglund via fpc-pascal: This is something I have been wondering about for a while.. When I install FPC from sources I have to create a config file by using this command: /home/user/lib/fpc/$FPCVER/samplecfg "/home/user/lib/fpc/$FPCVER" "/home/user" (replace "user" with the actual username such as pi or whatever) The problem with this is that the generated file is named fpc.cfg so I have to do a rename afterwards and this is not always remembered (like yesterday). Can you try running samplecfg without the second parameter and without root-rights? Then it should create a .fpc.cfg in your home-directory. So there is no need to rename the file. If you supply a second parameter with the location where you want to write the configuration-file to, samplecfg does not know it is in your home-directory, so it will use a normal, visible, file. At least that is how I would say it should work. Regards, Joost. ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg
Op 12-04-2020 om 13:30 schreef fredvs via fpc-pascal: OK, I am ready for the combat, I am sure of my arguments. I do have a perfect solution for you. I've made a fpc-otb, as you call it years (over a decade?) ago. And i don't even need Michael's patch for it. (The one with the configuration-macro) But I'm not giving it to you. I don't care that you need it, or that you help others with it. You are just too hostile. I don't understand why Michael has so many patience with you. And still tries to help you. And when he does help you, this is the reaction he gets. People might blame me that I am not willing to help newbies and such. But reading all this alone takes too much of my time. Time I could spend on something useful. Or users that deserve my help. Some quoted I had to accept: > Sorry but not all users are gurus. (We give you some hints, you blame us for making things too difficult?) > And sorry also if it dont follow the rules of the good old boy way. (No explanation necessary) > was done not for create a new war but because some features are really needed. (Yep, you think that creating a war is the way to get what you want...) > And if some similar patches are applied to official fpc, I the repository can be deleted. (Yes, threatening us will help ya) > Sorry but time goes out, I dont have time to be patient any more. (You ask us for help, we try to help you, but you don't have the decency to give us some patience?) > And each time that I request it, it finished by insult. (Yeah, sure. Show me such an insult. Well, maybe this mail, saying you are too hostile?) > @Jonas, I apologize, really, you kindly answered but I feel alone against a tribe of gurus who want to eat me. (Even in an apology, you call us a tri... well, maybe there is a reason for that) Regards, Joost. ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg
On 4/12/20 10:09 AM, wkitt...@windstream.net wrote: PPS: Bo, if you reply, please include the above PS when you reply to the list so that the list manager(s) can see this and maybe they can/will whitelist the synacor servers... i've had several postings get blocked in recent days because of this problem... looks like the block has been removed! YAY! :) -- NOTE: No off-list assistance is given without prior approval. *Please keep mailing list traffic on the list where it belongs!* ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg
On 4/12/20 8:26 AM, Bo Berglund via fpc-pascal wrote: I am used to *not* hide files anytime both on Windows (where I always configure the explorer to show hidden files) and on Linux where I always use an ls -la alias ll in order not to hide files. Never understood the reason for hiding stuff... the reason for hiding certain files is presentation to the majority of the masses... 99.999% of users don't need or want to know about these files... they only care that their stuff works and that they can easily find what they are looking for without having to dig through a lot of what they would generally consider cruft and fluff... programmers and others interested in the nitty-gritty details are very much a minority PS: i'm replying to both, the list and Bo, because the synacor mail server seems to be blocked by some spam lists... synacor hosts email for numerous ISPs... windstream moved to synacor a few years ago rather than continuing to host their own email servers... it is a painful annoyance when legitimate services like synacor get blocked like this :( PPS: Bo, if you reply, please include the above PS when you reply to the list so that the list manager(s) can see this and maybe they can/will whitelist the synacor servers... i've had several postings get blocked in recent days because of this problem... -- NOTE: No off-list assistance is given without prior approval. *Please keep mailing list traffic on the list where it belongs!* ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg
On 4/12/20 7:55 AM, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: All your OOTB problems can be solved without a single line of code change in the compiler. Just create a script that people should use to compile instead of directly using the 'fpc' command, and specify the config file in the script, and any other options you want for your OOTB experience. FWIW: fpcup on linux does this script to execute fpc... i was quite glad for it when i first used fpc up because it allowed me to find where it put fpc (and lazarus) ;) -- NOTE: No off-list assistance is given without prior approval. *Please keep mailing list traffic on the list where it belongs!* ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg
> Take your pick... The one I want is missing! Anyway, thanks Michael, it was hard battles, I win some, but not yet the war. Take care of you. Fre;D -- Sent from: http://free-pascal-general.1045716.n5.nabble.com/ ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg
On Sun, 12 Apr 2020, fredvs via fpc-pascal wrote: I would think this is about the biggest failure of all for a compiler ? Imo, the worst thing is when the compilation is ok but code are bad interpreted. simply because unix does not do this. OK, like I did for all my arguments, can you prove that? I never hear that is was forbidden to place a config file in same dir than executable and forbidden to use that config file in a search. I never claimed it was forbidden ? I applaud your efforts to provide an OOTB experience, and I think I have indicated there are plenty of options available for you to achieve what you want without the need to change the compiler any further: - Correct directory structure in a zip - Installer instruction style wget https://yoururl/ -O - | bash - wrapper script for fpc itself. Take your pick... Michael. ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg
>I would think this is about the biggest failure of all for a compiler ? Imo, the worst thing is when the compilation is ok but code are bad interpreted. > simply because unix does not do this. OK, like I did for all my arguments, can you prove that? I never hear that is was forbidden to place a config file in same dir than executable and forbidden to use that config file in a search. But, ok, I am very tired of all that discussion, thanks for all what was already done. Fre -- Sent from: http://free-pascal-general.1045716.n5.nabble.com/ ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg
On Sun, 12 Apr 2020 12:16:20 +0200 (CEST), Michael Van Canneyt wrote: >You can hardly blame us for you not remembering things... :-) > >> Why does fpc look for .fpc.cfg in the user home dir when it is >> otherwise looking for fpc.cfg? > >Because the naming convention on unixes is like that for config files in >your home directory. This is not fpc specific. Well, I have used a setup script I wrote years ago to set up fpc/lazarus on Raspbian so I don't have to remember these things. Has worked just fine on many RPi units. The rename is hidden inside the script of course... And yesterday is the first time I did it on an Ubuntu system and I adapted the content of the script to manual commands and of course overlooked a script line that moved the fpc.cfg file to .fpc.cfg Thanks for the explanation on why it is as it is. I am used to *not* hide files anytime both on Windows (where I always configure the explorer to show hidden files) and on Linux where I always use an ls -la alias ll in order not to hide files. Never understood the reason for hiding stuff... Thanks for replying! -- Bo Berglund Developer in Sweden ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg
On Sun, 12 Apr 2020, fredvs via fpc-pascal wrote: committed in rev. 44697 Yep, excellent! Note that this still may cause surprises, because paramstr(0) is not 100% reliable. Hum, ok, but I assume to take the risk. Finally, the worst that can happen is fail to compil. I would think this is about the biggest failure of all for a compiler ? Nice, FPC is nearly OOTB now. Only miss a very, very little patches: the "so.n" of course and the searchpath order. No. Sorry. I don't intend to budge on this last one. For backwards compatibility and simply because unix does not do this. I also have not seen any convincing argument why it is needed. It's definitely not needed for your "OOTB experience". In your zip use a directory structure /bin/ /etc/ and the compiler will find the config file by itself if you place it in etc. I agree that the .so.n can only be solved in the compiler, but this not. And to be correct: All your OOTB problems can be solved without a single line of code change in the compiler. Just create a script that people should use to compile instead of directly using the 'fpc' command, and specify the config file in the script, and any other options you want for your OOTB experience. Inside the script you have the ability to detect whatever you want: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/59895/how-to-get-the-source-directory-of-a-bash-script-from-within-the-script-itself You can even call the script 'fpc'. Most large projects use a script to "sanitize" the environment before starting the actual binary. Even the firefox browser does this, android studio, vmware player etc.. (I checked) And given all the customization you want to do, that seems like the best option to me, because I get the idea you will do a lot more customization still. Michael. ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg
> committed in rev. 44697 Yep, excellent! > Note that this still may cause surprises, because paramstr(0) is not 100% reliable. Hum, ok, but I assume to take the risk. Finally, the worst that can happen is fail to compil. Nice, FPC is nearly OOTB now. Only miss a very, very little patches: the "so.n" of course and the searchpath order. I feel that "so.n" patch has a possibility to be apply, I dont feel so much hostility about it. So I keep my force for the last combat, the "searchpath order": compiler/option.pas line 3349 function check_configfile(fn:string; var foundfn:string):boolean; if not FileExists(fn) then // current dir if CfgFileExists(IncludeTrailingBackslash(ExtractFilePath(ParamStr(0)))+fn) then // add this: foundfn:=IncludeTrailingBackslash(ExtractFilePath(ParamStr(0)))+fn // dir of compiler else Just convince that placing a config file in the same directory than then compiler is not a crime in Unix. And prove that directory of compiler has to be in second position for searching. And that it will not break any compatibility, even for Windows. OK, I am ready for the combat, I am sure of my arguments. Fre;D -- Sent from: http://free-pascal-general.1045716.n5.nabble.com/ ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg
On Sun, 12 Apr 2020, Sven Barth via fpc-pascal wrote: Why does fpc look for .fpc.cfg in the user home dir when it is otherwise looking for fpc.cfg? Because the naming convention on unixes is like that for config files in your home directory. This is not fpc specific. This convention predates the systems used by desktop environments which nowadays puts everything in ~/.config or ~/.share or some other convention. But it is still in use today. Just for completeness sake: this is not a convention for configuration files, but for *hidden* files in general. While in the global configuration directory (/etc) all files are (normally) visible for everyone the idea is that inside the user's home directory in most cases the user is only interested in the normal files of themselves when doing a "ls". Hidden files and directories are only shown with "ls -a". That is why FPC's configuration file is hidden: its good tone to hide configuration files in the user's home directory. Exactly. That is also why the config directory is called .config or .share. it is then 'hidden' by default. Thank you for completing my explanation. Michael. ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg
Michael Van Canneyt schrieb am So., 12. Apr. 2020, 12:16: > > > On Sun, 12 Apr 2020, Bo Berglund via fpc-pascal wrote: > > > On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 13:44:17 -0700 (MST), fredvs via fpc-pascal > > wrote: > > > >> 2)Your home directory, it looks for .fpc.cfg. > > > > This is something I have been wondering about for a while.. > > When I install FPC from sources I have to create a config file by > > using this command: > > > > /home/user/lib/fpc/$FPCVER/samplecfg "/home/user/lib/fpc/$FPCVER" > > "/home/user" > > (replace "user" with the actual username such as pi or whatever) > > > > The problem with this is that the generated file is named fpc.cfg so I > > have to do a rename afterwards and this is not always remembered (like > > yesterday). > > You can hardly blame us for you not remembering things... :-) > > > Why does fpc look for .fpc.cfg in the user home dir when it is > > otherwise looking for fpc.cfg? > > Because the naming convention on unixes is like that for config files in > your home directory. This is not fpc specific. > > This convention predates the systems used by desktop environments which > nowadays puts > everything in ~/.config or ~/.share or some other convention. But it is > still in use today. > Just for completeness sake: this is not a convention for configuration files, but for *hidden* files in general. While in the global configuration directory (/etc) all files are (normally) visible for everyone the idea is that inside the user's home directory in most cases the user is only interested in the normal files of themselves when doing a "ls". Hidden files and directories are only shown with "ls -a". That is why FPC's configuration file is hidden: its good tone to hide configuration files in the user's home directory. Regards, Sven > ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg
On Sun, 12 Apr 2020, Bo Berglund via fpc-pascal wrote: On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 13:44:17 -0700 (MST), fredvs via fpc-pascal wrote: 2)Your home directory, it looks for .fpc.cfg. This is something I have been wondering about for a while.. When I install FPC from sources I have to create a config file by using this command: /home/user/lib/fpc/$FPCVER/samplecfg "/home/user/lib/fpc/$FPCVER" "/home/user" (replace "user" with the actual username such as pi or whatever) The problem with this is that the generated file is named fpc.cfg so I have to do a rename afterwards and this is not always remembered (like yesterday). You can hardly blame us for you not remembering things... :-) Why does fpc look for .fpc.cfg in the user home dir when it is otherwise looking for fpc.cfg? Because the naming convention on unixes is like that for config files in your home directory. This is not fpc specific. This convention predates the systems used by desktop environments which nowadays puts everything in ~/.config or ~/.share or some other convention. But it is still in use today. So, rather than adapting to the flavour of the day config system, we stick to what - after all these years - is still common practice on unix, and which we have been consistently using since day 1. If you don't like this name, fine: you can set an environment variable to point the compiler to where it is. https://www.freepascal.org/docs-html/current/user/usersu10.html#x24-310003.1.5 You only need to do this once. So it's not like we don't offer you a myriad of ways to specify a config file... Michael. ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg
On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 13:44:17 -0700 (MST), fredvs via fpc-pascal wrote: >2)Your home directory, it looks for .fpc.cfg. This is something I have been wondering about for a while.. When I install FPC from sources I have to create a config file by using this command: /home/user/lib/fpc/$FPCVER/samplecfg "/home/user/lib/fpc/$FPCVER" "/home/user" (replace "user" with the actual username such as pi or whatever) The problem with this is that the generated file is named fpc.cfg so I have to do a rename afterwards and this is not always remembered (like yesterday). Why does fpc look for .fpc.cfg in the user home dir when it is otherwise looking for fpc.cfg? And if this is so, should not samplecfg be smart enough to drop off the correctly named cfg file if the target dir is the user's home dir? -- Bo Berglund Developer in Sweden ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg
On Sat, 11 Apr 2020, fredvs via fpc-pascal wrote:
I did try this without luck:
-Fu$PPC_EXEC_PATH/units/$fpctarget
-Fu$PPC_EXEC_PATH/units/$fpctarget/*
-Fu$PPC_EXEC_PATH/units/$fpctarget/rtl
PPC_EXEC_PATH is an environment variable, not a compiler variable.
see globals.pas:
localexepath:=GetEnvironmentVariable('PPC_EXEC_PATH');
Michael.
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Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg
On Sat, 11 Apr 2020, fredvs via fpc-pascal wrote:
I promise, it is the last for tonight.
It would be wonderful if in /compiler/globals.pas, at line 906, you add this
line (or something like that):
{ Replace some macros }
Replace(s,'$FPCPATH',AnsiString(IncludeTrailingBackslash(ExtractFilePath(ParamStr(0);
So in fpc.cfg you may do:
-Fu$FPCPATH/units/$fpctarget
-Fu$FPCPATH/units/$fpctarget/*
-Fu$FPCPATH/units/$fpctarget/rtl
And it works like charm.
That is _exactly_ what I was talking about when I suggested adding some macros.
I added this:
Replace(s,'$FPCBINDIR',ExtractFilePath(FixFileName(system.paramstr(0;
Changed the name because 'Path' is used for search paths.
Note that this still may cause surprises, because paramstr(0) is not 100%
reliable.
committed in rev. 44697
Michael.
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Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg
This is an evil travesty and I'm not happy about it:
-Fu$_$/../../lib/fpc/$fpcversion/units/$fpctarget
-Fu$_$/../../lib/fpc/$fpcversion/units/$fpctarget/*
-Fu$_$/../../lib/fpc/$fpcversion/units/$fpctarget/rtl
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I promise, it is the last for tonight.
It would be wonderful if in /compiler/globals.pas, at line 906, you add this
line (or something like that):
{ Replace some macros }
Replace(s,'$FPCPATH',AnsiString(IncludeTrailingBackslash(ExtractFilePath(ParamStr(0);
So in fpc.cfg you may do:
-Fu$FPCPATH/units/$fpctarget
-Fu$FPCPATH/units/$fpctarget/*
-Fu$FPCPATH/units/$fpctarget/rtl
And it works like charm.
@Jonas, I apologize, really, you kindly answered but I feel alone against a
tribe of gurus who want to eat me.
OK, I go to sleep (if I can).
Fred
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Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg
I promise, it is the last for tonight.
It would be wonderful if in /compiler/globals.pas, at line 906, you add this
line (or something like that):
{ Replace some macros }
Replace(s,'$FPCPATH',AnsiString(IncludeTrailingBackslash(ExtractFilePath(ParamStr(0);
So in fpc.cfg you may do:
-Fu$FPCPATH/units/$fpctarget
-Fu$FPCPATH/units/$fpctarget/*
-Fu$FPCPATH/units/$fpctarget/rtl
And it works like charm.
@Jonas, I apologize, really, you kindly answered but I feel alone against a
tribe of gurus who want to eat me.
OK, I go to sleep (if I can).
Fred
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Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg
I did try this without luck: -Fu$PPC_EXEC_PATH/units/$fpctarget -Fu$PPC_EXEC_PATH/units/$fpctarget/* -Fu$PPC_EXEC_PATH/units/$fpctarget/rtl Fred -- Sent from: http://free-pascal-general.1045716.n5.nabble.com/ ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg
> You can do > -Fu$PPC_CONFIG_PATH/../units/whatever > We can add some extra macros there if you want, Could you add the macro PPC_COMPILER_PATH ? Fred -- Sent from: http://free-pascal-general.1045716.n5.nabble.com/ ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg
Hello Alexander. Thanks for the tips, but all that is too much complicated for a totally newbie. I did not really understand the argument that is a absolutely wrong way to store the fpc.cfg in the same directory as the compiler, like it is allowed for Windows. But I accept the choice. With the patch, I agree, it is maybe to simple, unzip it, compile it, no script needed, no break of compatibility (even I would prefer change the search order), the fpc.cfg is in the directory of fpc and all the -Fu's are like -Fu./units/ to point to child directories. Do you know the OOTB concept? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out_of_the_box_(feature) Fre;D -- Sent from: http://free-pascal-general.1045716.n5.nabble.com/ ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg
Are you always going to be running the compiler from a front-end (IDE, whatever else)? Just use code on the other end to find the binary directory and call something like "fpc @/home/whereis/fpc/fpc.cfg ..." You could also use a bash script to wrap the compiler and do something like: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/59895/how-to-get-the-source-directory-of-a-bash-script-from-within-the-script-itself#59916 To find out where the script is (and therefore where your binaries/config are) to use with @ again. I duno. If you really do this I'd suggest doing it once and writing a correct config to .fpc.cfg in their home directory... in that case they can at least upgrade fpc independently from the whole project. But that touches the system.. -- Alexander Grotewohl https://dcclost.com From: fpc-pascal on behalf of fredvs via fpc-pascal Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 11:31:32 AM To: fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org Cc: fredvs Subject: Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg > if the .so.n issue was really so urgent for you, Ho, it was urgent for we since the first time I did use it 15 years ago! And each time that I request it, it finished by insult. And when I created uos, problems of linking to libs where solved by loadlibrary() because with ld it was not possible. Sorry but now it is the time to change and fast. Fred -- Sent from: http://free-pascal-general.1045716.n5.nabble.com/ ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg
> if the .so.n issue was really so urgent for you, Ho, it was urgent for we since the first time I did use it 15 years ago! And each time that I request it, it finished by insult. And when I created uos, problems of linking to libs where solved by loadlibrary() because with ld it was not possible. Sorry but now it is the time to change and fast. Fred -- Sent from: http://free-pascal-general.1045716.n5.nabble.com/ ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg
On Sat, 11 Apr 2020, fredvs via fpc-pascal wrote: You just need to be a little patient Huh, if I may, the so.n bug date from 3 years ago and is not yet assigned. I was referring to the config file issue. if the .so.n issue was really so urgent for you, you could have brought it up much earlier here, so I'm inclined not to buy the 'it is urgent' story. We're just trying to help, but we can't work miracles... Michael. ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
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> You just need to be a little patient Huh, if I may, the so.n bug date from 3 years ago and is not yet assigned. Sorry Michael but I need a fpc-wob (works out the box) now. And when all my needs will be fixed in fpc original, I will come back to the original. Sorry but time goes out, I dont have time to be patient any more. Fred -- Sent from: http://free-pascal-general.1045716.n5.nabble.com/ ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg
On Sat, 11 Apr 2020, fredvs via fpc-pascal wrote: It's perfectly fine to change the name. See e.g. the first answer to https://stackoverflow.com/questions/4475319/how-to-rebrand-copyright-a-forked-project-gnu-gpl# Really, did you think that I ever had the idea to change anything in the copyright and not claim that it is a fork from fpc? You know what, please choose the name, I will use it. Better yet, use fpc as it is. It can do all you need already out of the box. You just need to be a little patient and let us explain properly how to help you. It would save you a lot of trouble, I think :) Michael. ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg
On 11/04/2020 16:48, fredvs via fpc-pascal wrote: >> It's perfectly fine to change the name. See e.g. the first answer to >> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/4475319/how-to-rebrand-copyright-a-forked-project-gnu-gpl# > Really, did you think that I ever had the idea to change anything in the > copyright and not claim that it is a fork from fpc? No, and I never claimed that. You asked whether you could change the name, and I said "yes, see e.g. here for someone else who also says that you can do so, and that it's even a good idea to do so". Please stop acting as if you are attacked when someone simply answers your questions. Jonas ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
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> It's perfectly fine to change the name. See e.g. the first answer to > https://stackoverflow.com/questions/4475319/how-to-rebrand-copyright-a-forked-project-gnu-gpl# Really, did you think that I ever had the idea to change anything in the copyright and not claim that it is a fork from fpc? You know what, please choose the name, I will use it. Fred -- Sent from: http://free-pascal-general.1045716.n5.nabble.com/ ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg
On Sat, 11 Apr 2020, fredvs via fpc-pascal wrote: It will create one in your home directory if it detects you do not have root access. Could you explain that? Of course if you can show me a trick for configuring a script that will install fpc in the home directory (.fpc.cfg), with for example the hard-coded directory /home/user/instantfpc, I will use it. But the condition will be that the user has nothing write, only run a script. The default install.sh used by FPC calls samplecfg to create the config file for the compiler. samplecfg is located in compiler/utils. Line 40 and following contain: # Detect if we have write permission in sysdir. if [ -w "$sysdir" ] ; then echo Write permission in $sysdir. fpccfgfile="$sysdir"/fpc.cfg fppkgfile="$sysdir"/fppkg.cfg defaultfile="$sysdir"/fppkg/default compilerconfigdir="-d CompilerConfigDir=$sysdir/fppkg" fppkgconfdir=$sysdir/fppkg/conf.d else echo No write premission in $sysdir. fpccfgfile="$HOME"/.fpc.cfg fppkgfile="$HOME"/.config/fppkg.cfg defaultfile="$HOME"/.fppkg/config/default fppkgconfdir="$HOME"/.fppkg/config/conf.d fi So as you can see, when the user does not have write permissions in /etc or /local/etc, it will write a config file in the user home directory, exactly where the compiler will pick it up. So you see, we've covered the situation you are trying to solve. It has been so for ages, all you need to do is use what is there correctly. There is no need to change anything. Michael. ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg
On 11/04/2020 16:21, fredvs via fpc-pascal wrote: >> then you should probably change the name > Humm, in previous post it was said that I am not allowed to change the name? It's perfectly fine to change the name. See e.g. the first answer to https://stackoverflow.com/questions/4475319/how-to-rebrand-copyright-a-forked-project-gnu-gpl# Jonas ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg
On 4/11/20 10:16 AM, Jonas Maebe wrote: On 11/04/2020 15:58, wkitt...@windstream.net wrote: Does fpc accept relative path for -Fu in the fpc.cfg config file, something like: -Fu../units/$fpctarget -Fu../units/$fpctarget/* -Fu../units/$fpctarget/rtl doesn't the 2nd one already cover the 3rd one? The default fpc.cfg contains this as well. It's to ensure that in case of unit name conflicts, the RTL will always get priority. Ideally there are no such conflicts, but there have been several in the past (and there are still some between the univint and fv packages today). thank you for the explanation! i never understood why it was listed like that and didn't ever really find an explanation but i didn't look very hard, either... -- NOTE: No off-list assistance is given without prior approval. *Please keep mailing list traffic on the list where it belongs!* ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg
> then you should probably change the name Humm, in previous post it was said that I am not allowed to change the name? -- Sent from: http://free-pascal-general.1045716.n5.nabble.com/ ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg
On 11/04/2020 15:58, wkitt...@windstream.net wrote: >> Does fpc accept relative path for -Fu in the fpc.cfg config file, >> something >> like: >> >> -Fu../units/$fpctarget >> -Fu../units/$fpctarget/* >> -Fu../units/$fpctarget/rtl > > doesn't the 2nd one already cover the 3rd one? The default fpc.cfg contains this as well. It's to ensure that in case of unit name conflicts, the RTL will always get priority. Ideally there are no such conflicts, but there have been several in the past (and there are still some between the univint and fv packages today). Jonas ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg
On 11/04/2020 16:08, fredvs via fpc-pascal wrote: > Only do a fork, respect the rules of the license and do the change you want > without be dependent of what the parent of the fork think or do. If you really want to create a fork that behaves differently from FPC on some fundamental points, then you should probably change the name at least a little bit so there won't be confusion when people ask for help (I'm using FPC - Yes, but which fork of FPC?) Jonas ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
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> We have different opinions about what is needed and what is not. Or what > even is the right approach. And it is why I like the concept of open source, different opinions may exist and no one is obliged to impose his own. Only do a fork, respect the rules of the license and do the change you want without be dependent of what the parent of the fork think or do. And even more, if it is done with goodwill, parent and fork can stimulate their self. Fred -- Sent from: http://free-pascal-general.1045716.n5.nabble.com/ ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
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> doesn't the 2nd one already cover the 3rd one? Yes, sorry, it was just a example of the layout. Fred -- Sent from: http://free-pascal-general.1045716.n5.nabble.com/ ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg
On 4/10/20 4:44 PM, fredvs via fpc-pascal wrote: Does fpc accept relative path for -Fu in the fpc.cfg config file, something like: -Fu../units/$fpctarget -Fu../units/$fpctarget/* -Fu../units/$fpctarget/rtl doesn't the 2nd one already cover the 3rd one? -- NOTE: No off-list assistance is given without prior approval. *Please keep mailing list traffic on the list where it belongs!* ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg
Am 11.04.2020 um 15:18 schrieb fredvs via fpc-pascal: I hope that you understand that: https://github.com/fredvs/freepascal was done not for create a new war but because some features are really needed. We have different opinions about what is needed and what is not. Or what even is the right approach. Regards, Sven ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg
Hello Michael. I will deeply study your proposition. I am also highly interested by this: > You can do > -Fu$PPC_CONFIG_PATH/../units/whatever Maybe it can solve some problem and the last patch about dealing with './' will not be needed. I hope that you understand that: https://github.com/fredvs/freepascal was done not for create a new war but because some features are really needed. And if some similar patches are applied to official fpc, I the repository can be deleted. Fre;D -- Sent from: http://free-pascal-general.1045716.n5.nabble.com/ ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg
Am 11.04.2020 um 14:46 schrieb fredvs via fpc-pascal: It will create one in your home directory if it detects you do not have root access. Could you explain that? Of course if you can show me a trick for configuring a script that will install fpc in the home directory (.fpc.cfg), with for example the hard-coded directory /home/user/instantfpc, I will use it. But the condition will be that the user has nothing write, only run a script. By default the compiler also looks in ~/.fpc.cfg on *nix systems (and then tries /etc/fpc.cfg). So if you have your installation script automatically create the correct configuration file using fpcmkcfg (distributed with FPC, see $fpcdir/utils/fpcmkcfg) setting up the correct paths then your user will be good to go (after all this is what FPC's installation script does as well). Regards, Sven ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg
> On unix, a simple 'unzip' is simply not the standard way to do things. There are tons of application that do that. GoogleEarth, lot of utilities, ... MSEide, -- Sent from: http://free-pascal-general.1045716.n5.nabble.com/ ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg
> It will create one in your home directory if it detects you do not have root access. Could you explain that? Of course if you can show me a trick for configuring a script that will install fpc in the home directory (.fpc.cfg), with for example the hard-coded directory /home/user/instantfpc, I will use it. But the condition will be that the user has nothing write, only run a script. Fre;D -- Sent from: http://free-pascal-general.1045716.n5.nabble.com/ ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg
On Sat, 11 Apr 2020, fredvs via fpc-pascal wrote: There's a prompt in the freepascal installer that asks for the prefix. Your users should be capable of that? As explained in previous post, the goal is to not touch the system. If you use the fpc installer, even if you install it in the user's home directory, the installer will create a fpc.cfg in /etc and that needs root access. This is simply not correct. It will create one in your home directory if it detects you do not have root access. Of course users can do that but the goal of that patch is to have a compiler totally out-of-the-box, that even dont need to configure or set anything. Sorry but not all users are gurus. No-one expects them to be. But if someone is unable to run install.sh, and type in the name of a directory, then he has no business in programming. You're not making a chat application, after all. You can expect some rudimentary understanding of your users. And sorry also if it dont follow the rules of the good old boy way. This is not the 'good old boy' way. Why use such derogatory words ? It's adapting to the system you work on, instead of clinging to wrong concepts for that system. Michael. ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg
On Sat, 11 Apr 2020, Alexander Grotewohl wrote: Why not just provide instructions for installation in the user's home directory, for example. It's what you'd have to do if you didn't have root access anyways. Then you can pretend that it's "cleaner" than just installing it systemwide. There's a prompt in the freepascal installer that asks for the prefix. Your users should be capable of that? Exactly. On unix, a simple 'unzip' is simply not the standard way to do things. As I said, all programs that work like that ask you to execute some script (in your .bashrc or .cshrc) to set some environment variable. You can simply do the same, or as Alexander points out, use the provided installer script from fpc. You reason from a windows perspective. This is seldom a good idea on Unices. Michael. ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg
> There's a prompt in the freepascal installer that asks for the prefix. Your users should be capable of that? As explained in previous post, the goal is to not touch the system. If you use the fpc installer, even if you install it in the user's home directory, the installer will create a fpc.cfg in /etc and that needs root access. Of course users can do that but the goal of that patch is to have a compiler totally out-of-the-box, that even dont need to configure or set anything. Sorry but not all users are gurus. And sorry also if it dont follow the rules of the good old boy way. Fred -- Sent from: http://free-pascal-general.1045716.n5.nabble.com/ ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg
Why not just provide instructions for installation in the user's home directory, for example. It's what you'd have to do if you didn't have root access anyways. Then you can pretend that it's "cleaner" than just installing it systemwide. There's a prompt in the freepascal installer that asks for the prefix. Your users should be capable of that? -- Alexander Grotewohl https://dcclost.com From: fpc-pascal on behalf of fredvs via fpc-pascal Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2020 8:07:17 AM To: fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org Cc: fredvs Subject: Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg Hello. The target of that "patched" fpc is mainly the Raspbian RPi. I want a fpc out-of-the-box, only a zip file that people may unzip where they want, without need to touch anything to the system. All what I have found in fpc doc always require to touch to system. Also, I want that people can compile out-of-the-box, without the need to install dev package because that army of Rpi is not connected. I thanks you for the warnings about using fpc.cfg in the same directory than the compiler. But for my need there is no problem with that, even if you create a symlink and run fpc from that symlink. I do propose my patch here to inform what I am changing in https://github.com/fredvs/freepascal Fre;D -- Sent from: http://free-pascal-general.1045716.n5.nabble.com/ ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg
Hello. The target of that "patched" fpc is mainly the Raspbian RPi. I want a fpc out-of-the-box, only a zip file that people may unzip where they want, without need to touch anything to the system. All what I have found in fpc doc always require to touch to system. Also, I want that people can compile out-of-the-box, without the need to install dev package because that army of Rpi is not connected. I thanks you for the warnings about using fpc.cfg in the same directory than the compiler. But for my need there is no problem with that, even if you create a symlink and run fpc from that symlink. I do propose my patch here to inform what I am changing in https://github.com/fredvs/freepascal Fre;D -- Sent from: http://free-pascal-general.1045716.n5.nabble.com/ ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg
On Sat, 11 Apr 2020, Jonas Maebe wrote: On 11/04/2020 08:24, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: it is not done on unices to search in the binary directory for config files. That's a windows thing. And the main reason for this is that "the" compiler binary does not necessarily exist. The most obvious case is a hard link: in this case, a single file exists in multiple locations on the file system. A program file can also be moved while it was executing. Even if you ignore the above cases and only care about the directory in which the binary was found when it was started, then there is still the issue that not all Unix systems provide you with that information. E.g. on Darwin/macOS, if you just type "ppcx64", then the "full path" to the binary that the program gets is "ppcx64" and you have no idea where it's located. You can use some heuristics like looking in the path, but this is fragile and might possibly even be used for attacks (it is probably possible to specify a different PATH environment variable to the child process than the one used to originally find it). This is also the reason why most Unix programs have there installation directory compiled into the binary, and why you often have to specify it already when building the program (rather than only when installing it). FPC does not do that due to its DOS and OS/2 heritage, but it's not something we should extend. In short: the installer should write a 'correct' config file, without tricks like relative paths. Many unix programs that can be installed 'anywhere' require you to set environment variables in order to find where you installed it. Michael. ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg
On 11/04/2020 08:24, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: > it is not done on unices to search in the binary directory for config > files. That's a windows thing. And the main reason for this is that "the" compiler binary does not necessarily exist. The most obvious case is a hard link: in this case, a single file exists in multiple locations on the file system. A program file can also be moved while it was executing. Even if you ignore the above cases and only care about the directory in which the binary was found when it was started, then there is still the issue that not all Unix systems provide you with that information. E.g. on Darwin/macOS, if you just type "ppcx64", then the "full path" to the binary that the program gets is "ppcx64" and you have no idea where it's located. You can use some heuristics like looking in the path, but this is fragile and might possibly even be used for attacks (it is probably possible to specify a different PATH environment variable to the child process than the one used to originally find it). This is also the reason why most Unix programs have there installation directory compiled into the binary, and why you often have to specify it already when building the program (rather than only when installing it). FPC does not do that due to its DOS and OS/2 heritage, but it's not something we should extend. Jonas ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg
On Fri, 10 Apr 2020, fredvs via fpc-pascal wrote: Does fpc accept relative path for -Fu in the fpc.cfg config file, something like: -Fu./units/$fpctarget -Fu./units/$fpctarget/* -Fu./units/$fpctarget/rtl No, it seems that it is not possible. So I propose to do this, dont hurt existing code, only gives happiness: That will not happen. -Fu./something Can *already* be specified and means relative to the CURRENT working directory, not the compiler binary directory. Your patch would change this behaviour, and that is not backwards compatible. You can do -Fu$PPC_CONFIG_PATH/../units/whatever (or any other environment variable) The compiler accepts this. We can add some extra macros there if you want, but we will not change the behaviour of ./ See also https://www.freepascal.org/docs-html/current/user/userse18.html#x52-590005.3 But based on this and your other questions, IMO your reasoning is fundamentally wrong, you should never rely on the compiler location. Instead maybe you should explain what the actual problem is you are tying to solve, then we can help you better instead of explaining what cannot or will not be done. After all, we've been doing this for 25+ years. Michael. ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg
On Fri, 10 Apr 2020, fredvs via fpc-pascal wrote: Hello. According: https://wiki.freepascal.org/Configuration_file Under a Unix or Unix-like operating systems (e.g. FreeBSD, Linux) 1)The current directory. 2)Your home directory, it looks for .fpc.cfg. 3)The directory specified in the environment variable PPC_CONFIG_PATH, and if it is not set, it will look in the etc directory above the compiler directory. (For instance, if the compiler is in /usr/local/bin, it will look in /usr/local/etc) The directory /etc. Would it be possible to have a 4th: the directory of the binary compiler and maybe change his order? No. That is not backward compatible. In the worst case we can add the compiler dir, but as the last. But even so: it is not done on unices to search in the binary directory for config files. That's a windows thing. Don't introduce this on unices: You should accept & follow the rules of the platform you're working on. If you really want that, create a wrapper which sets PPC_CONFIG_PATH to the compiler bin dir. But I strongly advance against this. Does fpc accept relative path for -Fu in the fpc.cfg config file, something like: -Fu../units/$fpctarget -Fu../units/$fpctarget/* -Fu../units/$fpctarget/rtl Yes. Michael. ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg
> Does fpc accept relative path for -Fu in the fpc.cfg config file, something
> like:
> -Fu./units/$fpctarget
> -Fu./units/$fpctarget/*
> -Fu./units/$fpctarget/rtl
No, it seems that it is not possible.
So I propose to do this, dont hurt existing code, only gives happiness:
in cfileutls.pas do this:
procedure TSearchPathList.AddPath(s:TCmdStr;addfirst:boolean);
begin
if system.copy(s,1,2) = './' then
begin s :=
AnsiString(IncludeTrailingBackslash(ExtractFilePath(ParamStr(0))) +
system.copy(s,3,length(s)-2));
end;
AddLibraryPath('',s,AddFirst);
end;
Tested and re-tested, committed, it works like charms, with fpc.cfg in same
dir than fpc (first patch):
# searchpath for units and other system dependent things
-Fu./units/$fpctarget
-Fu./units/$fpctarget/*
-Fu./units/$fpctarget/rtl
OK, I let you in peace.
Take care of you.
Fre;D
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Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg
Hello. The last line of function check_configfile(fn:string; var foundfn:string):boolean; should be something like this: ... else if CfgFileExists(IncludeTrailingBackslash(ExtractFilePath(ParamStr(0)))+fn) then foundfn:=IncludeTrailingBackslash(ExtractFilePath(ParamStr(0)))+fn else check_configfile:=false; -- Sent from: http://free-pascal-general.1045716.n5.nabble.com/ ___ fpc-pascal maillist - fpc-pascal@lists.freepascal.org https://lists.freepascal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fpc-pascal
Re: [fpc-pascal] Search path order for fpc.cfg
Hello.
In fpc code /compiler/options.pas, for
function check_configfile(fn:string; var foundfn:string):boolean;
{
Order to read configuration file :
try reading fpc.cfg in :
1 - current dir
2 - configpath
3 - compiler path
}
But if you check in code, the option 3 is never done.
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