Color Definition / Print Setting... is inconsistent error
Hello Listers, Any ideas how I can overcome the following error? Color Definition / Print Setting... is inconsistent.. I know it can be ignored but this becomes a hindrance if I use a script to convert the FM files to pdf. Tried all possible suggestions available on the net but so far nothing helped me resolve the same. Help/suggestions/workaround appreciated. BR Garnier ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Missing characters in FrameMaker (not PDF)
Yes, sorry I omitted to say that. The problem was only in FrameMaker. The font in use was Adobe Type 1 Minion Pro. Twenty-four hours after deleting fntcache.dat, the problem has not resurfaced. Roger Shuttleworth Technical Documentation AV-BASE Systems Inc. 1000 Air Ontario Drive, Suite 200 London, Ontario N5V 3S4 Tel. 519 691-0919 ext. 330 _ From: Steve Johnson [mailto:chinask...@gmail.com] To: Roger Shuttleworth [mailto:rshuttlewo...@avbasesystems.com] Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 15:37:34 -0500 Subject: Re: Missing characters in FrameMaker (not PDF) The only application that showed this problem was FrameMaker? On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Roger Shuttleworth rshuttlewo...@avbasesystems.com wrote: Hello All A co-worker is having problems when typing in FrameMaker. Details as follows: FrameMaker 9.0p255 (structured) on Windows Vista Business Edition, SP2. When typing in a paragraph, random characters are missing. By random I mean that contains becomes cntas, so it is not missing particular characters - a character can be present one time and missing the next. I'd estimate that about 20% of the characters are skipped. Also, it is not inserting spaces instead of characters, or question marks. There is no character format in use (i.e. we are using default para font), and there are no xrefs or hypertext links in the paragraph. We replaced the keyboard with a brand new one - no difference. I believe my co-worker knows how to type (could it be that she types so fast that Windows can't keep up with her?). The other thing we tried was to delete the Windows\system32\fntcache.dat file and then reboot. I know this file has been implicated in problems of missing text in PDF, but have not read anything about missing characters in FrameMaker itself. So far, this seems to have fixed the problem, but our testing is very limited. (I am aware of the MS hotfix for the missing characters in PDF.) Has anyone else seen this problem? We have ourselves seen a similar, intermittent problem when typing in and around xref elements and/or hypertext markers, but in the present case there are none of these. Roger Shuttleworth Technical Documentation AV-BASE Systems Inc. 1000 Air Ontario Drive, Suite 200 London, Ontario N5V 3S4 Tel. 519 691-0919 ext. 330 ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as dr_go...@pobox.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dr_gonzo%40pobox.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Steve Johnson, dr_go...@pobox.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Missing characters in FrameMaker (not PDF)
The only application that showed this problem was FrameMaker? On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Roger Shuttleworth rshuttlewo...@avbasesystems.com wrote: Hello All A co-worker is having problems when typing in FrameMaker. Details as follows: FrameMaker 9.0p255 (structured) on Windows Vista Business Edition, SP2. When typing in a paragraph, random characters are missing. By random I mean that contains becomes cntas, so it is not missing particular characters - a character can be present one time and missing the next. I'd estimate that about 20% of the characters are skipped. Also, it is not inserting spaces instead of characters, or question marks. There is no character format in use (i.e. we are using default para font), and there are no xrefs or hypertext links in the paragraph. We replaced the keyboard with a brand new one - no difference. I believe my co-worker knows how to type (could it be that she types so fast that Windows can't keep up with her?). The other thing we tried was to delete the Windows\system32\fntcache.dat file and then reboot. I know this file has been implicated in problems of missing text in PDF, but have not read anything about missing characters in FrameMaker itself. So far, this seems to have fixed the problem, but our testing is very limited. (I am aware of the MS hotfix for the missing characters in PDF.) Has anyone else seen this problem? We have ourselves seen a similar, intermittent problem when typing in and around xref elements and/or hypertext markers, but in the present case there are none of these. Roger Shuttleworth Technical Documentation AV-BASE Systems Inc. 1000 Air Ontario Drive, Suite 200 London, Ontario N5V 3S4 Tel. 519 691-0919 ext. 330 ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as dr_go...@pobox.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dr_gonzo%40pobox.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Steve Johnson, dr_go...@pobox.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Inheriting formats when pasting
Hi everyone, and Happy Thanksgiving, Here's a FM 8 (p277) question for you to ponder, it's been bugging me for some time. When I cut-and-paste between paragraphs of different fonts (or any other format), Frame remembers the source formatting, and pastes it along with the text. So our strict formats get all mixed up. I usually just use Paste Special... to paste as text, so it takes the formatting of the target paragraph. It's rather annoying to have to do 3 extra clicks to do something as simple as pasting. But even that doesn't work if I'm pasting a cross reference or special character like a non-breaking space--they get lost when pasting as plain text. For that, I have to do a regular paste, then reselect and fix the formatting to Default P Font. It seems that FrameMaker knows how to do this because if I do a search and replace with text that has special characters, they appear correctly anywhere they get inserted (though if you replace by pasting, you're back to the same problem). Is there a way to configure smart paste by default? Do FM9 or 10 behave differently? Thanks, Andy ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Inheriting formats when pasting
FM10's not out there quite yet - I just tried it in FM9 it's behaving the same way you describe. I remember doing a tweak to my maker.ini settings to copy paste just text from outside sources (like Word) without picking up the formatting of the source, but I don't think it's making any difference with FM to FM copy/pastes. -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Andy Kass Sent: Friday, November 26, 2010 12:54 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Inheriting formats when pasting Hi everyone, and Happy Thanksgiving, Here's a FM 8 (p277) question for you to ponder, it's been bugging me for some time. When I cut-and-paste between paragraphs of different fonts (or any other format), Frame remembers the source formatting, and pastes it along with the text. So our strict formats get all mixed up. I usually just use Paste Special... to paste as text, so it takes the formatting of the target paragraph. It's rather annoying to have to do 3 extra clicks to do something as simple as pasting. But even that doesn't work if I'm pasting a cross reference or special character like a non-breaking space--they get lost when pasting as plain text. For that, I have to do a regular paste, then reselect and fix the formatting to Default P Font. It seems that FrameMaker knows how to do this because if I do a search and replace with text that has special characters, they appear correctly anywhere they get inserted (though if you replace by pasting, you're back to the same problem). Is there a way to configure smart paste by default? Do FM9 or 10 behave differently? Thanks, Andy ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as jeff.coatswo...@jonassoftware.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jeff.coatsworth%40jonassoftware.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Inheriting formats when pasting
Hi Andy, If you look in the maker.ini for this key, you can change the default paste: ClipboardFormatsPriorities=TEXT, FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIFW, MIF, RTF, UNICODE TEXT Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-659-8267 r...@frameexpert.com *** Frame Automation blog at http://frameautomation.com -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Andy Kass Sent: Friday, November 26, 2010 12:54 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Inheriting formats when pasting Hi everyone, and Happy Thanksgiving, Here's a FM 8 (p277) question for you to ponder, it's been bugging me for some time. When I cut-and-paste between paragraphs of different fonts (or any other format), Frame remembers the source formatting, and pastes it along with the text. So our strict formats get all mixed up. I usually just use Paste Special... to paste as text, so it takes the formatting of the target paragraph. It's rather annoying to have to do 3 extra clicks to do something as simple as pasting. But even that doesn't work if I'm pasting a cross reference or special character like a non-breaking space--they get lost when pasting as plain text. For that, I have to do a regular paste, then reselect and fix the formatting to Default P Font. It seems that FrameMaker knows how to do this because if I do a search and replace with text that has special characters, they appear correctly anywhere they get inserted (though if you replace by pasting, you're back to the same problem). Is there a way to configure smart paste by default? Do FM9 or 10 behave differently? Thanks, Andy ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Inheriting formats when pasting
Sorry Rick, but unless this has changed in FM9 (I'm still using FM8) this only affects content that is being pasted via the Windows clipboard--that is content from external applications. Cutting/copying and pasting within FrameMaker behaves as Andy has described regardless of the ClipboardFormatsPriorities setting. But I would guess that a simple FrameScript script could execute a standard paste and then automatically apply the Default Para Font property to the pasted chunk. And maybe even do an update on any xref or user variable that was in the pasted chunk in case a character property is part of the reference's format. -Fred Ridder From: r...@rickquatro.com To: ak...@jaspersoft.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Inheriting formats when pasting Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 13:16:27 -0500 Hi Andy, If you look in the maker.ini for this key, you can change the default paste: ClipboardFormatsPriorities=TEXT, FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIFW, MIF, RTF, UNICODE TEXT Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-659-8267 r...@frameexpert.com *** Frame Automation blog at http://frameautomation.com -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Andy Kass Sent: Friday, November 26, 2010 12:54 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Inheriting formats when pasting Hi everyone, and Happy Thanksgiving, Here's a FM 8 (p277) question for you to ponder, it's been bugging me for some time. When I cut-and-paste between paragraphs of different fonts (or any other format), Frame remembers the source formatting, and pastes it along with the text. So our strict formats get all mixed up. I usually just use Paste Special... to paste as text, so it takes the formatting of the target paragraph. It's rather annoying to have to do 3 extra clicks to do something as simple as pasting. But even that doesn't work if I'm pasting a cross reference or special character like a non-breaking space--they get lost when pasting as plain text. For that, I have to do a regular paste, then reselect and fix the formatting to Default P Font. It seems that FrameMaker knows how to do this because if I do a search and replace with text that has special characters, they appear correctly anywhere they get inserted (though if you replace by pasting, you're back to the same problem). Is there a way to configure smart paste by default? Do FM9 or 10 behave differently? ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Inheriting formats when pasting
You are right, Fred, I am sorry about that. You are also right that this could be scripted with FrameScript. Rick From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, November 26, 2010 1:41 PM To: r...@rickquatro.com; ak...@jaspersoft.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Inheriting formats when pasting Sorry Rick, but unless this has changed in FM9 (I'm still using FM8) this only affects content that is being pasted via the Windows clipboard--that is content from external applications. Cutting/copying and pasting within FrameMaker behaves as Andy has described regardless of the ClipboardFormatsPriorities setting. But I would guess that a simple FrameScript script could execute a standard paste and then automatically apply the Default Para Font property to the pasted chunk. And maybe even do an update on any xref or user variable that was in the pasted chunk in case a character property is part of the reference's format. -Fred Ridder ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Inheriting formats when pasting
Thanks for the input so far, I had forgotten about that setting in maker.ini. Mine was already set (in Program files, not overridden in my User files): ; notice there's no OLE ClipboardFormatsPriorities=TEXT, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIFW, MIF, RTF, UNICODE TEXT So that appears to work only for external clipboard sources. Maybe there's still time to fix this in FM10 :-) Please? Thanks, Andy - Jeff Coatsworth jeff.coatswo...@jonassoftware.com wrote: FM10's not out there quite yet - I just tried it in FM9 it's behaving the same way you describe. I remember doing a tweak to my maker.ini settings to copy paste just text from outside sources (like Word) without picking up the formatting of the source, but I don't think it's making any difference with FM to FM copy/pastes. -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Andy Kass Sent: Friday, November 26, 2010 12:54 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Inheriting formats when pasting Hi everyone, and Happy Thanksgiving, Here's a FM 8 (p277) question for you to ponder, it's been bugging me for some time. When I cut-and-paste between paragraphs of different fonts (or any other format), Frame remembers the source formatting, and pastes it along with the text. So our strict formats get all mixed up. I usually just use Paste Special... to paste as text, so it takes the formatting of the target paragraph. It's rather annoying to have to do 3 extra clicks to do something as simple as pasting. But even that doesn't work if I'm pasting a cross reference or special character like a non-breaking space--they get lost when pasting as plain text. For that, I have to do a regular paste, then reselect and fix the formatting to Default P Font. It seems that FrameMaker knows how to do this because if I do a search and replace with text that has special characters, they appear correctly anywhere they get inserted (though if you replace by pasting, you're back to the same problem). Is there a way to configure smart paste by default? Do FM9 or 10 behave differently? Thanks, Andy ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as jeff.coatswo...@jonassoftware.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jeff.coatsworth%40jonassoftware.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Inheriting formats when pasting
On 26/11/2010 12:54 PM, Andy Kass wrote: Hi everyone, and Happy Thanksgiving, Here's a FM 8 (p277) question for you to ponder, it's been bugging me for some time. When I cut-and-paste between paragraphs of different fonts (or any other format), Frame remembers the source formatting, and pastes it along with the text. So our strict formats get all mixed up. Is there a way to configure smart paste by default? Do FM9 or 10 behave differently? I use this very handy utility http://www.stevemiller.net/puretext/ with the keyboard shortcut of WindowsLogoKey + v to strip formatting from the clipboard and paste as text whenever required. Regular Ctrl + v continues to work as always. HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Inheriting formats when pasting
I submitted the following enhancement request to the Adobe URL that was once posted on this list: https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform ***Enhancement / FMR* Brief title for your desired feature: Smart Paste How would you like the feature to work? Have several modes for pasting (content copied within FM): 1. As exists now: pasted content retains original formatting. 2. Paste Special: as exists now with same options (text, rich text, etc.) 3. Smart paste: text appears in target paragraph formatting, as if typed or inserted there. Essentially, apply Default P Font to pasted content after pasting, and then update any cross-references in the pasted content. Allow user to choose default pasting behavior in maker.ini and provide all three in menus/commands. Why is this feature important to you? Something as simple as pasting should require only a single click or key press. This would save lots of time, while still retaining the ability to perform all modes of pasting, as required. *** I know some engineers who like to sneek in late features (don't we all), so here's hoping. Plus Christmas is coming and I've been a good writer this year. Thanks for all your replies, Andy ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Inheriting formats when pasting
PureText is a useful tool, and I have it installed on my system. But it must be pointed out that in addiition to stripping out undesired character formatting, PureText also converts cross-references and references to variables into plain text, which is *not* what Andy wants to do. I still think that a simple FrameScript that auotmatically invokes Defaut Para Font immediately after pasting the content would be the best solution. But there is also another approach that may be useful, which deals with the formatting in advance of making the cut. If you have the insertion point in the destination paragraph (or any paragraph that is formatted like it) use EditCopy SpecialCharacter Formatting (Alt,e,o,c) to capture the desired formatting for the text's new location. Then select the content to be moved and press Ctrl+v to apply that formatting. Then press Ctrl+x to cut the formatted selection, and Ctrl+v to paste it into the new location just like you normally would. If you find that the Alt,e,o,c key sequence is too onerous, it's not difficult to edit the command configuration file to add a more convenient keyboard shortcut for that command. (See the Customizing_Frame_Products.pdf file in the Documents directory of the FrameMaker installation for details.) -Fred Ridder Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 13:57:00 -0500 From: srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Inheriting formats when pasting On 26/11/2010 12:54 PM, Andy Kass wrote: Hi everyone, and Happy Thanksgiving, Here's a FM 8 (p277) question for you to ponder, it's been bugging me for some time. When I cut-and-paste between paragraphs of different fonts (or any other format), Frame remembers the source formatting, and pastes it along with the text. So our strict formats get all mixed up. Is there a way to configure smart paste by default? Do FM9 or 10 behave differently? I use this very handy utility http://www.stevemiller.net/puretext/ with the keyboard shortcut of WindowsLogoKey + v to strip formatting from the clipboard and paste as text whenever required. Regular Ctrl + v continues to work as always. HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Color Definition / Print Setting... is inconsistent error
Garnier Garnier wrote: Any ideas how I can overcome the following error? Color Definition / Print Setting... is inconsistent.. I know it can be ignored but this becomes a hindrance if I use a script to convert the FM files to pdf. Tried all possible suggestions available on the net but so far nothing helped me resolve the same. Help/suggestions/workaround appreciated. I've never seen an error message with that text. Are you sure you're quoting it accurately? To get any meaningful help, you'll have to provide some context. For starters, the version of FM and OS, what kind of document, whether it's structured or unstructured, and what you were doing when the error message appeared. Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
"Color Definition / Print Setting... is inconsistent" error
Hello Listers, ? Any ideas how I can overcome the following error? ? "Color Definition / Print Setting... is inconsistent.." ? I know it can be ignored but this becomes a hindrance if I use a script to convert the FM files to pdf. ? Tried all possible suggestions available on the net but so far nothing helped me resolve the same. ? Help/suggestions/workaround appreciated. ? BR Garnier
Inheriting formats when pasting
Hi everyone, and Happy Thanksgiving, Here's a FM 8 (p277) question for you to ponder, it's been bugging me for some time. When I cut-and-paste between paragraphs of different fonts (or any other format), Frame remembers the source formatting, and pastes it along with the text. So our strict formats get all mixed up. I usually just use Paste Special... to paste as text, so it takes the formatting of the target paragraph. It's rather annoying to have to do 3 extra clicks to do something as simple as pasting. But even that doesn't work if I'm pasting a cross reference or special character like a non-breaking space--they get lost when pasting as plain text. For that, I have to do a regular paste, then reselect and fix the formatting to Default P Font. It seems that FrameMaker knows how to do this because if I do a search and replace with text that has special characters, they appear correctly anywhere they get inserted (though if you replace by pasting, you're back to the same problem). Is there a way to configure "smart" paste by default? Do FM9 or 10 behave differently? Thanks, Andy
Inheriting formats when pasting
FM10's not out there quite yet - I just tried it in FM9 & it's behaving the same way you describe. I remember doing a tweak to my maker.ini settings to copy & paste just text from outside sources (like Word) without picking up the formatting of the source, but I don't think it's making any difference with FM to FM copy/pastes. -Original Message- From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Andy Kass Sent: Friday, November 26, 2010 12:54 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Inheriting formats when pasting Hi everyone, and Happy Thanksgiving, Here's a FM 8 (p277) question for you to ponder, it's been bugging me for some time. When I cut-and-paste between paragraphs of different fonts (or any other format), Frame remembers the source formatting, and pastes it along with the text. So our strict formats get all mixed up. I usually just use Paste Special... to paste as text, so it takes the formatting of the target paragraph. It's rather annoying to have to do 3 extra clicks to do something as simple as pasting. But even that doesn't work if I'm pasting a cross reference or special character like a non-breaking space--they get lost when pasting as plain text. For that, I have to do a regular paste, then reselect and fix the formatting to Default P Font. It seems that FrameMaker knows how to do this because if I do a search and replace with text that has special characters, they appear correctly anywhere they get inserted (though if you replace by pasting, you're back to the same problem). Is there a way to configure "smart" paste by default? Do FM9 or 10 behave differently? Thanks, Andy ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as jeff.coatsworth at jonassoftware.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jeff.coatsworth%40jonassoftware.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Inheriting formats when pasting
Hi Andy, If you look in the maker.ini for this key, you can change the default paste: ClipboardFormatsPriorities=TEXT, FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIFW, MIF, RTF, UNICODE TEXT Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-659-8267 rick at frameexpert.com *** Frame Automation blog at http://frameautomation.com -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Andy Kass Sent: Friday, November 26, 2010 12:54 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Inheriting formats when pasting Hi everyone, and Happy Thanksgiving, Here's a FM 8 (p277) question for you to ponder, it's been bugging me for some time. When I cut-and-paste between paragraphs of different fonts (or any other format), Frame remembers the source formatting, and pastes it along with the text. So our strict formats get all mixed up. I usually just use Paste Special... to paste as text, so it takes the formatting of the target paragraph. It's rather annoying to have to do 3 extra clicks to do something as simple as pasting. But even that doesn't work if I'm pasting a cross reference or special character like a non-breaking space--they get lost when pasting as plain text. For that, I have to do a regular paste, then reselect and fix the formatting to Default P Font. It seems that FrameMaker knows how to do this because if I do a search and replace with text that has special characters, they appear correctly anywhere they get inserted (though if you replace by pasting, you're back to the same problem). Is there a way to configure "smart" paste by default? Do FM9 or 10 behave differently? Thanks, Andy ___
Inheriting formats when pasting
Sorry Rick, but unless this has changed in FM9 (I'm still using FM8) this only affects content that is being pasted via the Windows clipboard--that is content from external applications. Cutting/copying and pasting within FrameMaker behaves as Andy has described regardless of the ClipboardFormatsPriorities setting. But I would guess that a simple FrameScript script could execute a standard paste and then automatically apply the Default Para Font property to the pasted chunk. And maybe even do an update on any xref or user variable that was in the pasted chunk in case a character property is part of the reference's format. -Fred Ridder > From: rick at rickquatro.com > To: akass at jaspersoft.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: Inheriting formats when pasting > Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 13:16:27 -0500 > > Hi Andy, > > If you look in the maker.ini for this key, you can change the default paste: > > ClipboardFormatsPriorities=TEXT, FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIFW, > MIF, RTF, UNICODE TEXT > > Rick Quatro > Carmen Publishing Inc. > 585-659-8267 > rick at frameexpert.com > > *** Frame Automation blog at http://frameautomation.com > > > > > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Andy Kass > Sent: Friday, November 26, 2010 12:54 PM > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Inheriting formats when pasting > > Hi everyone, and Happy Thanksgiving, > > Here's a FM 8 (p277) question for you to ponder, it's been bugging me for > some time. > > When I cut-and-paste between paragraphs of different fonts (or any other > format), Frame remembers the source formatting, and pastes it along with the > text. So our strict formats get all mixed up. > > I usually just use Paste Special... to paste as text, so it takes the > formatting of the target paragraph. It's rather annoying to have to do 3 > extra clicks to do something as simple as pasting. But even that doesn't > work if I'm pasting a cross reference or special character like a > non-breaking space--they get lost when pasting as plain text. For that, I > have to do a regular paste, then reselect and fix the formatting to Default > P Font. > > It seems that FrameMaker knows how to do this because if I do a search and > replace with text that has special characters, they appear correctly > anywhere they get inserted (though if you replace by pasting, you're back to > the same problem). > > Is there a way to configure "smart" paste by default? Do FM9 or 10 behave > differently?
Inheriting formats when pasting
You are right, Fred, I am sorry about that. You are also right that this could be scripted with FrameScript. Rick From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, November 26, 2010 1:41 PM To: rick at rickquatro.com; akass at jaspersoft.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Inheriting formats when pasting Sorry Rick, but unless this has changed in FM9 (I'm still using FM8) this only affects content that is being pasted via the Windows clipboard--that is content from external applications. Cutting/copying and pasting within FrameMaker behaves as Andy has described regardless of the ClipboardFormatsPriorities setting. But I would guess that a simple FrameScript script could execute a standard paste and then automatically apply the Default Para Font property to the pasted chunk. And maybe even do an update on any xref or user variable that was in the pasted chunk in case a character property is part of the reference's format. -Fred Ridder
Inheriting formats when pasting
Thanks for the input so far, I had forgotten about that setting in maker.ini. Mine was already set (in Program files, not overridden in my User files): ; notice there's no OLE ClipboardFormatsPriorities=TEXT, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIFW, MIF, RTF, UNICODE TEXT So that appears to work only for external clipboard sources. Maybe there's still time to fix this in FM10 :-) Please? Thanks, Andy - "Jeff Coatsworth" wrote: > FM10's not out there quite yet - I just tried it in FM9 & it's > behaving the same way you describe. I remember doing a tweak to my > maker.ini settings to copy & paste just text from outside sources > (like Word) without picking up the formatting of the source, but I > don't think it's making any difference with FM to FM copy/pastes. > > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Andy Kass > Sent: Friday, November 26, 2010 12:54 PM > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Inheriting formats when pasting > > Hi everyone, and Happy Thanksgiving, > > Here's a FM 8 (p277) question for you to ponder, it's been bugging me > for some time. > > When I cut-and-paste between paragraphs of different fonts (or any > other format), Frame remembers the source formatting, and pastes it > along with the text. So our strict formats get all mixed up. > > I usually just use Paste Special... to paste as text, so it takes the > formatting of the target paragraph. It's rather annoying to have to do > 3 extra clicks to do something as simple as pasting. But even that > doesn't work if I'm pasting a cross reference or special character > like a non-breaking space--they get lost when pasting as plain text. > For that, I have to do a regular paste, then reselect and fix the > formatting to Default P Font. > > It seems that FrameMaker knows how to do this because if I do a search > and replace with text that has special characters, they appear > correctly anywhere they get inserted (though if you replace by > pasting, you're back to the same problem). > > Is there a way to configure "smart" paste by default? Do FM9 or 10 > behave differently? > > Thanks, > > Andy > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as > jeff.coatsworth at jonassoftware.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jeff.coatsworth%40jonassoftware.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Inheriting formats when pasting
On 26/11/2010 12:54 PM, Andy Kass wrote: > Hi everyone, and Happy Thanksgiving, > > Here's a FM 8 (p277) question for you to ponder, it's been bugging me > for some time. > > When I cut-and-paste between paragraphs of different fonts (or any > other format), Frame remembers the source formatting, and pastes it > along with the text. So our strict formats get all mixed up. > Is there a way to configure "smart" paste by default? Do FM9 or 10 > behave differently? > I use this very handy utility http://www.stevemiller.net/puretext/ with the keyboard shortcut of WindowsLogoKey + v to strip formatting from the clipboard and paste as text whenever required. Regular Ctrl + v continues to work as always. HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com
Inheriting formats when pasting
I submitted the following enhancement request to the Adobe URL that was once posted on this list: https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform ***Enhancement / FMR* Brief title for your desired feature: Smart Paste How would you like the feature to work? Have several modes for pasting (content copied within FM): 1. As exists now: pasted content retains original formatting. 2. Paste Special: as exists now with same options (text, rich text, etc.) 3. Smart paste: text appears in target paragraph formatting, as if typed or inserted there. Essentially, apply "Default P Font" to pasted content after pasting, and then update any cross-references in the pasted content. Allow user to choose default pasting behavior in maker.ini and provide all three in menus/commands. Why is this feature important to you? Something as simple as pasting should require only a single click or key press. This would save lots of time, while still retaining the ability to perform all modes of pasting, as required. *** I know some engineers who like to sneek in late features (don't we all), so here's hoping. Plus Christmas is coming and I've been a good writer this year. Thanks for all your replies, Andy
Inheriting formats when pasting
PureText is a useful tool, and I have it installed on my system. But it must be pointed out that in addiition to stripping out undesired character formatting, PureText also converts cross-references and references to variables into plain text, which is *not* what Andy wants to do. I still think that a simple FrameScript that auotmatically invokes Defaut Para Font immediately after pasting the content would be the best solution. But there is also another approach that may be useful, which deals with the formatting in advance of making the cut. If you have the insertion point in the destination paragraph (or any paragraph that is formatted like it) use Edit>Copy Special>Character Formatting (Alt,e,o,c) to capture the desired formatting for the text's new location. Then select the content to be moved and press Ctrl+v to apply that formatting. Then press Ctrl+x to cut the formatted selection, and Ctrl+v to paste it into the new location just like you normally would. If you find that the Alt,e,o,c key sequence is too onerous, it's not difficult to edit the command configuration file to add a more convenient keyboard shortcut for that command. (See the Customizing_Frame_Products.pdf file in the Documents directory of the FrameMaker installation for details.) -Fred Ridder > Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 13:57:00 -0500 > From: srogers at phoenix-geophysics.com > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: Inheriting formats when pasting > > On 26/11/2010 12:54 PM, Andy Kass wrote: > > Hi everyone, and Happy Thanksgiving, > > > > Here's a FM 8 (p277) question for you to ponder, it's been bugging me > > for some time. > > > > When I cut-and-paste between paragraphs of different fonts (or any > > other format), Frame remembers the source formatting, and pastes it > > along with the text. So our strict formats get all mixed up. > > > Is there a way to configure "smart" paste by default? Do FM9 or 10 > > behave differently? > > > > I use this very handy utility http://www.stevemiller.net/puretext/ > with the keyboard shortcut of WindowsLogoKey + v to strip formatting > from the clipboard and paste as text whenever required. Regular Ctrl + > v continues to work as always. > > HTH, > > -- > Stuart Rogers > Technical Communicator > Phoenix Geophysics Limited > 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 > Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5 > +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325
"Color Definition / Print Setting... is inconsistent" error
Garnier Garnier wrote: > Any ideas how I can overcome the following error? > > "Color Definition / Print Setting... is inconsistent.." > > I know it can be ignored but this becomes a hindrance if I use a script > to convert the FM files to pdf. > > Tried all possible suggestions available on the net but so far nothing > helped me resolve the same. > > Help/suggestions/workaround appreciated. I've never seen an error message with that text. Are you sure you're quoting it accurately? To get any meaningful help, you'll have to provide some context. For starters, the version of FM and OS, what kind of document, whether it's structured or unstructured, and what you were doing when the error message appeared. Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 --
