FrameMaker 8.0 TOC building blocks

2012-08-08 Thread Waltermeyer, Brenda L.
My client uses Windows XP and FrameMaker 8.0

I need to include specially marked reference for each of my titles (i.e., # (U) 
Title).

Currently have in the Paragraph Design – Numbering:

F:Figure\ $chapnum \+n+\s#(U)\s#

Which shows on my page as:

Figure 1-1 (U) This is a figure title style

As for the LOF generated file – View – Reference Pages:

Currently have:

$paranumonly$paratext …..$chapnum-$pagenum

Which shows on my page as:

1-1 This is a figure title style……….1-1

I want it to say:

1-1 (U) This is a figure title style……1-1


Question:

How do I achieve this with out typing the (U) with my title in the body text of 
the document.
I want to have FM do this automatically. Any help or idea are greatly 
appreciated.

Thanks
Brenda
__
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Lead Desktop Publisher
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Force Projection Department
Publications and Visual Communication
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RE: FrameMaker 8.0 TOC building blocks

2012-08-08 Thread Fred Ridder

In the LOF file, on the LOF reference page, try chaninging the $paranumonly 
building block to $paranum. The $paranumonly building block is designed to 
pick up only the numbers (and any separators between the digits) and omit any 
other following content produced by the autonumbering format. In other words, 
it is specifically designed to *eliminate* the kind of extra characters you are 
trying to add. $paranum, by contrast, picks up the entire autonumbering 
string.
 
-Fred Ridder
 



From: brenda.walterme...@jhuapl.edu
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 07:36:34 -0400
Subject: FrameMaker 8.0 TOC building blocks




My client uses Windows XP and FrameMaker 8.0


I need to include specially marked reference for each of my titles (i.e., # (U) 
Title).


Currently have in the Paragraph Design – Numbering:


F:Figure\ $chapnum \+n+\s#(U)\s#


Which shows on my page as:


Figure 1-1 (U) This is a figure title style


As for the LOF generated file – View – Reference Pages:


Currently have:


$paranumonly$paratext …..$chapnum-$pagenum


Which shows on my page as:


1-1 This is a figure title style……….1-1


I want it to say:


1-1 (U) This is a figure title style……1-1




Question:


How do I achieve this with out typing the (U) with my title in the body text of 
the document. 
I want to have FM do this automatically. Any help or idea are greatly 
appreciated.


Thanks
Brenda 
__

Brenda L. Waltermeyer
Lead Desktop Publisher
The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory

Force Projection Department
Publications and Visual Communication
KCA Room 8-375  
EXT. 88748
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Re: FrameMaker 8.0 TOC building blocks

2012-08-08 Thread Waltermeyer, Brenda L.
But, if I use the $paranum, I get the word Figure with it too.
I want to eliminate the word Figure for the LOF generated file.
I only want it to show: #-# (U) Title……I-I (example)

Thanks
Brenda
__
Brenda L. Waltermeyer
Lead Desktop Publisher
Force Projection Department
Publications and Visual Communication
KCA Room 8-375
EXT. 88748

From: Fred Ridder docu...@hotmail.commailto:docu...@hotmail.com
Date: Wednesday, August 8, 2012 8:04 AM
To: JHU/APL 
brenda.walterme...@jhuapl.edumailto:brenda.walterme...@jhuapl.edu, 
framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com 
framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FrameMaker 8.0 TOC building blocks

In the LOF file, on the LOF reference page, try chaninging the $paranumonly 
building block to $paranum. The $paranumonly building block is designed to 
pick up only the numbers (and any separators between the digits) and omit any 
other following content produced by the autonumbering format. In other words, 
it is specifically designed to *eliminate* the kind of extra characters you are 
trying to add. $paranum, by contrast, picks up the entire autonumbering 
string.

-Fred Ridder


From: brenda.walterme...@jhuapl.edumailto:brenda.walterme...@jhuapl.edu
To: framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 07:36:34 -0400
Subject: FrameMaker 8.0 TOC building blocks

My client uses Windows XP and FrameMaker 8.0

I need to include specially marked reference for each of my titles (i.e., # (U) 
Title).

Currently have in the Paragraph Design – Numbering:

F:Figure\ $chapnum \+n+\s#(U)\s#

Which shows on my page as:

Figure 1-1 (U) This is a figure title style

As for the LOF generated file – View – Reference Pages:

Currently have:

$paranumonly$paratext …..$chapnum-$pagenum

Which shows on my page as:

1-1This is a figure title style……….1-1

I want it to say:

1-1 (U) This is a figure title style……1-1


Question:

How do I achieve this with out typing the (U) with my title in the body text of 
the document.
I want to have FM do this automatically. Any help or idea are greatly 
appreciated.

Thanks
Brenda
__
Brenda L. Waltermeyer
Lead Desktop Publisher
The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory
Force Projection Department
Publications and Visual Communication
KCA Room 8-375
EXT. 88748

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RE: FrameMaker 8.0 TOC building blocks

2012-08-08 Thread Fred Ridder

Oh, right. I didn't even notice that because corporate style at all the 
companies where I've used FrameMaker has always included the Figure label in 
the LOF (partly because that's the way that MS Word, which usually co-exists 
with FrameMaker, does it by default).
 
If you have to stick with $paranumonly, the solution is to simply include the 
needed characters as a literal string in the appropriate prototype paragraph in 
the reference pages. In other words, instead of using 
$paranumonly$paratext …..$chapnum-$pagenum
use

$paranumonly (U) $paratext …..$chapnum-$pagenum
 
This will insert the specified five characters (the three glyphs plus leading 
and trailing spaces) between the numbering string and the paragraph text for 
every LOF entry that corresponds to the specified paragraph style.
 
-Fred Ridder
 



From: brenda.walterme...@jhuapl.edu
To: docu...@hotmail.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 08:40:35 -0400
Subject: Re: FrameMaker 8.0 TOC building blocks




But, if I use the $paranum, I get the word Figure with it too. 
I want to eliminate the word Figure for the LOF generated file. 
I only want it to show: #-# (U) Title……I-I (example)


Thanks
Brenda
__

Brenda L. Waltermeyer
Lead Desktop Publisher

Force Projection Department
Publications and Visual Communication
KCA Room 8-375  
EXT. 88748


From: Fred Ridder docu...@hotmail.com
Date: Wednesday, August 8, 2012 8:04 AM
To: JHU/APL brenda.walterme...@jhuapl.edu, framers@lists.frameusers.com 
framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FrameMaker 8.0 TOC building blocks







In the LOF file, on the LOF reference page, try chaninging the $paranumonly 
building block to $paranum. The $paranumonly building block is designed to 
pick up only the numbers (and any separators between the digits) and omit any 
other following content produced by the autonumbering format. In other words, 
it is specifically designed to *eliminate* the kind of extra characters you are 
trying to add. $paranum, by contrast, picks up the entire autonumbering 
string.
 
-Fred Ridder
 




From: brenda.walterme...@jhuapl.edu
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 07:36:34 -0400
Subject: FrameMaker 8.0 TOC building blocks




My client uses Windows XP and FrameMaker 8.0


I need to include specially marked reference for each of my titles (i.e., # (U) 
Title).


Currently have in the Paragraph Design – Numbering:


F:Figure\ $chapnum \+n+\s#(U)\s#


Which shows on my page as:


Figure 1-1 (U) This is a figure title style


As for the LOF generated file – View – Reference Pages:


Currently have:


$paranumonly$paratext …..$chapnum-$pagenum


Which shows on my page as:


1-1This is a figure title style……….1-1


I want it to say:


1-1 (U) This is a figure title style……1-1




Question:


How do I achieve this with out typing the (U) with my title in the body text of 
the document. 
I want to have FM do this automatically. Any help or idea are greatly 
appreciated.


Thanks
Brenda 
__

Brenda L. Waltermeyer
Lead Desktop Publisher
The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory

Force Projection Department
Publications and Visual Communication
KCA Room 8-375  
EXT. 88748
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Char and Para Tag Updating - Across Books

2012-08-08 Thread Alison Craig
FM 9 Version: 9.0p255
Unstructured
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate, 64 bit


Is there any way to edit/update Char and Para tags across all files in a book?

When I started with Frame about 3 years, it was a brand new experience for me 
and I didn't always use (actually, I didn't always know) best practices.

My current project is to try, as I update a book for the next revision, is to 
fix many of my original Char and Para tags. I've searched in the Using Adobe 
FrameMaker 9 pdf and Scriptorium's Unstructured FrameMaker 8, but I haven't 
found anything that tells me how to update Char or Para tags across all files 
in a book.

Am I really going to have to do this the hard way?

Alison


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RE: Char and Para Tag Updating - Across Books

2012-08-08 Thread Fred Ridder

When you say edit/update Char and Para tags are you referring to the 
formatting associated with the tags, or to the tags themselves (e.g., their 
names and/or how they are applied)?  
 
If it's the former, it's really quite easy:
 
1) Update the format definitions in one file. This can be any file: a file from 
the book, a file from a different book, or a separate template file. Save the 
file but leave it open.
2) From the book window, select the component files that need to be updated.
3) Choose FileImportFormats, and select only the Character and Paragraph 
formats in the dialog. 
4) Click Import.  
5) After a few moments to a few minutes (depending on the number of files and 
how long it takes to open each of them), you'll be all done. 
 
Note that this process will change the formats for all tags that appear in both 
the source (template) and target (document) files, and will add any new 
formats that are in the template. It will not delete unused formats, and it 
will not change the names of any tags, and it will not map any existing tags to 
new ones. To do any of those things, you will need either a plug-in or 
FrameScript plus an appropriate script (or a lot of time and patience to do it 
by hand).
 
-Fred Ridder
 



From: alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 14:23:22 -0700
Subject: Char and Para Tag Updating - Across Books







FM 9 Version: 9.0p255
Unstructured
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate, 64 bit
 
 
Is there any way to edit/update Char and Para tags across all files in a book?
 
When I started with Frame about 3 years, it was a brand new experience for me 
and I didn’t always use (actually, I didn’t always know) best practices.
 
My current project is to try, as I update a book for the next revision, is to 
“fix” many of my original Char and Para tags. I’ve searched in the Using Adobe 
FrameMaker 9 pdf and Scriptorium’s Unstructured FrameMaker 8, but I haven’t 
found anything that tells me how to update Char or Para tags across all files 
in a book.
 
Am I really going to have to do this the hard way?
 
Alison 
 
 
Alison Craig 
Technical Documentation Lead

604-279-8550 | fax 604-279-8559 | toll-free 1-866-437-9508
Ultrasonix Medical Corporation | www.ultrasonix.com


 
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RE: Char and Para Tag Updating - Across Books

2012-08-08 Thread Alison Craig
Unfortunately, I am renaming some tags and updating some settings that I didn't 
set consistently when I first created tags.

Your mention of plugins jarred my memory. I have Silicon Prairie's Char and 
Para Tools. The conversion tool included in each looks like it might do what I 
want. Now I just have to study them a bit to figure out the details (and make 
backups before trying anything!)

Thanks for the help!

Alison


From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 2:53 PM
To: Alison Craig; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Char and Para Tag Updating - Across Books

When you say edit/update Char and Para tags are you referring to the 
formatting associated with the tags, or to the tags themselves (e.g., their 
names and/or how they are applied)?

If it's the former, it's really quite easy:

1) Update the format definitions in one file. This can be any file: a file from 
the book, a file from a different book, or a separate template file. Save the 
file but leave it open.
2) From the book window, select the component files that need to be updated.
3) Choose FileImportFormats, and select only the Character and Paragraph 
formats in the dialog.
4) Click Import.
5) After a few moments to a few minutes (depending on the number of files and 
how long it takes to open each of them), you'll be all done.

Note that this process will change the formats for all tags that appear in both 
the source (template) and target (document) files, and will add any new 
formats that are in the template. It will not delete unused formats, and it 
will not change the names of any tags, and it will not map any existing tags to 
new ones. To do any of those things, you will need either a plug-in or 
FrameScript plus an appropriate script (or a lot of time and patience to do it 
by hand).

-Fred Ridder


From: alison.cr...@ultrasonix.commailto:alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com
To: framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 14:23:22 -0700
Subject: Char and Para Tag Updating - Across Books
FM 9 Version: 9.0p255
Unstructured
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate, 64 bit


Is there any way to edit/update Char and Para tags across all files in a book?

When I started with Frame about 3 years, it was a brand new experience for me 
and I didn't always use (actually, I didn't always know) best practices.

My current project is to try, as I update a book for the next revision, is to 
fix many of my original Char and Para tags. I've searched in the Using Adobe 
FrameMaker 9 pdf and Scriptorium's Unstructured FrameMaker 8, but I haven't 
found anything that tells me how to update Char or Para tags across all files 
in a book.

Am I really going to have to do this the hard way?

Alison


Alison Craig
Technical Documentation Lead

604-279-8550 | fax 604-279-8559 | toll-free 1-866-437-9508
Ultrasonix Medical Corporation | www.ultrasonix.comhttp://www.ultrasonix.com/

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FrameMaker 8.0 TOC building blocks

2012-08-08 Thread Waltermeyer, Brenda L.
My client uses Windows XP and FrameMaker 8.0

I need to include specially marked reference for each of my titles (i.e., # (U) 
Title).

Currently have in the Paragraph Design ? Numbering:

F:Figure\ <$chapnum> \+<n+>\s#(U)\s#

Which shows on my page as:

Figure 1-1 (U) This is a figure title style

As for the LOF generated file ? View ? Reference Pages:

Currently have:

<$paranumonly><$paratext> ?..<$chapnum>-<<$pagenum>

Which shows on my page as:

1-1 This is a figure title style???.1-1

I want it to say:

1-1 (U) This is a figure title style??1-1


Question:

How do I achieve this with out typing the (U) with my title in the body text of 
the document.
I want to have FM do this automatically. Any help or idea are greatly 
appreciated.

Thanks
Brenda
__
Brenda L. Waltermeyer
Lead Desktop Publisher
The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory
Force Projection Department
Publications and Visual Communication
KCA Room 8-375
EXT. 88748
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FrameMaker 8.0 TOC building blocks

2012-08-08 Thread Fred Ridder

In the LOF file, on the LOF reference page, try chaninging the <$paranumonly> 
building block to <$paranum>. The <$paranumonly> building block is designed to 
pick up only the numbers (and any separators between the digits) and omit any 
other following content produced by the autonumbering format. In other words, 
it is specifically designed to *eliminate* the kind of extra characters you are 
trying to add. <$paranum>, by contrast, picks up the entire autonumbering 
string.

-Fred Ridder




From: brenda.walterme...@jhuapl.edu
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 07:36:34 -0400
Subject: FrameMaker 8.0 TOC building blocks




My client uses Windows XP and FrameMaker 8.0


I need to include specially marked reference for each of my titles (i.e., # (U) 
Title).


Currently have in the Paragraph Design ? Numbering:


F:Figure\ <$chapnum> \+<n+>\s#(U)\s#


Which shows on my page as:


Figure 1-1 (U) This is a figure title style


As for the LOF generated file ? View ? Reference Pages:


Currently have:


<$paranumonly><$paratext> ?..<$chapnum>-<<$pagenum>


Which shows on my page as:


1-1 This is a figure title style???.1-1


I want it to say:


1-1 (U) This is a figure title style??1-1




Question:


How do I achieve this with out typing the (U) with my title in the body text of 
the document. 
I want to have FM do this automatically. Any help or idea are greatly 
appreciated.


Thanks
Brenda 
__

Brenda L. Waltermeyer
Lead Desktop Publisher
The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory

Force Projection Department
Publications and Visual Communication
KCA Room 8-375  
EXT. 88748
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FrameMaker 8.0 TOC building blocks

2012-08-08 Thread Waltermeyer, Brenda L.
But, if I use the <$paranum>, I get the word "Figure" with it too.
I want to eliminate the word Figure for the LOF generated file.
I only want it to show: #-# (U) Title??I-I (example)

Thanks
Brenda
__
Brenda L. Waltermeyer
Lead Desktop Publisher
Force Projection Department
Publications and Visual Communication
KCA Room 8-375
EXT. 88748

From: Fred Ridder mailto:docu...@hotmail.com>>
Date: Wednesday, August 8, 2012 8:04 AM
To: JHU/APL mailto:Brenda.Waltermeyer at 
jhuapl.edu>>, "framers at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers at 
lists.frameusers.com>" mailto:framers at 
lists.frameusers.com>>
Subject: RE: FrameMaker 8.0 TOC building blocks

In the LOF file, on the LOF reference page, try chaninging the <$paranumonly> 
building block to <$paranum>. The <$paranumonly> building block is designed to 
pick up only the numbers (and any separators between the digits) and omit any 
other following content produced by the autonumbering format. In other words, 
it is specifically designed to *eliminate* the kind of extra characters you are 
trying to add. <$paranum>, by contrast, picks up the entire autonumbering 
string.

-Fred Ridder


From: Brenda.Waltermeyer at jhuapl.edu<mailto:brenda.walterme...@jhuapl.edu>
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 07:36:34 -0400
Subject: FrameMaker 8.0 TOC building blocks

My client uses Windows XP and FrameMaker 8.0

I need to include specially marked reference for each of my titles (i.e., # (U) 
Title).

Currently have in the Paragraph Design ? Numbering:

F:Figure\ <$chapnum> \+<n+>\s#(U)\s#

Which shows on my page as:

Figure 1-1 (U) This is a figure title style

As for the LOF generated file ? View ? Reference Pages:

Currently have:

<$paranumonly><$paratext> ?..<$chapnum>-<<$pagenum>

Which shows on my page as:

1-1This is a figure title style???.1-1

I want it to say:

1-1 (U) This is a figure title style??1-1


Question:

How do I achieve this with out typing the (U) with my title in the body text of 
the document.
I want to have FM do this automatically. Any help or idea are greatly 
appreciated.

Thanks
Brenda
__
Brenda L. Waltermeyer
Lead Desktop Publisher
The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory
Force Projection Department
Publications and Visual Communication
KCA Room 8-375
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FrameMaker 8.0 TOC building blocks

2012-08-08 Thread Fred Ridder

Oh, right. I didn't even notice that because corporate style at all the 
companies where I've used FrameMaker has always included the "Figure" label in 
the LOF (partly because that's the way that MS Word, which usually co-exists 
with FrameMaker, does it by default).

If you have to stick with <$paranumonly>, the solution is to simply include the 
needed characters as a literal string in the appropriate prototype paragraph in 
the reference pages. In other words, instead of using 
<$paranumonly><$paratext> ?..<$chapnum>-<$pagenum>
use

<$paranumonly> (U) <$paratext> ?..<$chapnum>-<<$pagenum>

This will insert the specified five characters (the three glyphs plus leading 
and trailing spaces) between the numbering string and the paragraph text for 
every LOF entry that corresponds to the specified paragraph style.

-Fred Ridder




From: brenda.walterme...@jhuapl.edu
To: docudoc at hotmail.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 08:40:35 -0400
Subject: Re: FrameMaker 8.0 TOC building blocks




But, if I use the <$paranum>, I get the word "Figure" with it too. 
I want to eliminate the word Figure for the LOF generated file. 
I only want it to show: #-# (U) Title??I-I (example)


Thanks
Brenda
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Lead Desktop Publisher

Force Projection Department
Publications and Visual Communication
KCA Room 8-375  
EXT. 88748


From: Fred Ridder <docu...@hotmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, August 8, 2012 8:04 AM
To: JHU/APL , "framers at 
lists.frameusers.com" 
Subject: RE: FrameMaker 8.0 TOC building blocks







In the LOF file, on the LOF reference page, try chaninging the <$paranumonly> 
building block to <$paranum>. The <$paranumonly> building block is designed to 
pick up only the numbers (and any separators between the digits) and omit any 
other following content produced by the autonumbering format. In other words, 
it is specifically designed to *eliminate* the kind of extra characters you are 
trying to add. <$paranum>, by contrast, picks up the entire autonumbering 
string.

-Fred Ridder





From: brenda.walterme...@jhuapl.edu
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 07:36:34 -0400
Subject: FrameMaker 8.0 TOC building blocks




My client uses Windows XP and FrameMaker 8.0


I need to include specially marked reference for each of my titles (i.e., # (U) 
Title).


Currently have in the Paragraph Design ? Numbering:


F:Figure\ <$chapnum> \+<n+>\s#(U)\s#


Which shows on my page as:


Figure 1-1 (U) This is a figure title style


As for the LOF generated file ? View ? Reference Pages:


Currently have:


<$paranumonly><$paratext> ?..<$chapnum>-<<$pagenum>


Which shows on my page as:


1-1This is a figure title style???.1-1


I want it to say:


1-1 (U) This is a figure title style??1-1




Question:


How do I achieve this with out typing the (U) with my title in the body text of 
the document. 
I want to have FM do this automatically. Any help or idea are greatly 
appreciated.


Thanks
Brenda 
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Lead Desktop Publisher
The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory

Force Projection Department
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Char and Para Tag Updating - Across Books

2012-08-08 Thread Alison Craig
FM 9 Version: 9.0p255
Unstructured
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate, 64 bit


Is there any way to edit/update Char and Para tags across all files in a book?

When I started with Frame about 3 years, it was a brand new experience for me 
and I didn't always use (actually, I didn't always know) best practices.

My current project is to try, as I update a book for the next revision, is to 
"fix" many of my original Char and Para tags. I've searched in the Using Adobe 
FrameMaker 9 pdf and Scriptorium's Unstructured FrameMaker 8, but I haven't 
found anything that tells me how to update Char or Para tags across all files 
in a book.

Am I really going to have to do this the hard way?

Alison


Alison Craig
Technical Documentation Lead

604-279-8550 | fax 604-279-8559 | toll-free 1-866-437-9508
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Char and Para Tag Updating - Across Books

2012-08-08 Thread Fred Ridder

When you say "edit/update Char and Para tags" are you referring to the 
formatting associated with the tags, or to the tags themselves (e.g., their 
names and/or how they are applied)?  

If it's the former, it's really quite easy:

1) Update the format definitions in one file. This can be any file: a file from 
the book, a file from a different book, or a separate template file. Save the 
file but leave it open.
2) From the book window, select the component files that need to be updated.
3) Choose File>Import>Formats, and select only the Character and Paragraph 
formats in the dialog. 
4) Click Import.  
5) After a few moments to a few minutes (depending on the number of files and 
how long it takes to open each of them), you'll be all done. 

Note that this process will change the formats for all tags that appear in both 
the "source" (template) and "target" (document) files, and will add any new 
formats that are in the template. It will not delete unused formats, and it 
will not change the names of any tags, and it will not map any existing tags to 
new ones. To do any of those things, you will need either a plug-in or 
FrameScript plus an appropriate script (or a lot of time and patience to do it 
by hand).

-Fred Ridder




From: alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 14:23:22 -0700
Subject: Char and Para Tag Updating - Across Books







FM 9 Version: 9.0p255
Unstructured
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate, 64 bit


Is there any way to edit/update Char and Para tags across all files in a book?

When I started with Frame about 3 years, it was a brand new experience for me 
and I didn?t always use (actually, I didn?t always know) best practices.

My current project is to try, as I update a book for the next revision, is to 
?fix? many of my original Char and Para tags. I?ve searched in the Using Adobe 
FrameMaker 9 pdf and Scriptorium?s Unstructured FrameMaker 8, but I haven?t 
found anything that tells me how to update Char or Para tags across all files 
in a book.

Am I really going to have to do this the hard way?

Alison 


Alison Craig 
Technical Documentation Lead

604-279-8550 | fax 604-279-8559 | toll-free 1-866-437-9508
Ultrasonix Medical Corporation | www.ultrasonix.com



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Char and Para Tag Updating - Across Books

2012-08-08 Thread Alison Craig
Unfortunately, I am renaming some tags and updating some settings that I didn't 
set consistently when I first created tags.

Your mention of plugins jarred my memory. I have Silicon Prairie's Char and 
Para Tools. The conversion tool included in each looks like it might do what I 
want. Now I just have to study them a bit to figure out the details (and make 
backups before trying anything!)

Thanks for the help!

Alison


From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 2:53 PM
To: Alison Craig; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Char and Para Tag Updating - Across Books

When you say "edit/update Char and Para tags" are you referring to the 
formatting associated with the tags, or to the tags themselves (e.g., their 
names and/or how they are applied)?

If it's the former, it's really quite easy:

1) Update the format definitions in one file. This can be any file: a file from 
the book, a file from a different book, or a separate template file. Save the 
file but leave it open.
2) From the book window, select the component files that need to be updated.
3) Choose File>Import>Formats, and select only the Character and Paragraph 
formats in the dialog.
4) Click Import.
5) After a few moments to a few minutes (depending on the number of files and 
how long it takes to open each of them), you'll be all done.

Note that this process will change the formats for all tags that appear in both 
the "source" (template) and "target" (document) files, and will add any new 
formats that are in the template. It will not delete unused formats, and it 
will not change the names of any tags, and it will not map any existing tags to 
new ones. To do any of those things, you will need either a plug-in or 
FrameScript plus an appropriate script (or a lot of time and patience to do it 
by hand).

-Fred Ridder


From: Alison.Craig at ultrasonix.com<mailto:alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com>
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com>
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 14:23:22 -0700
Subject: Char and Para Tag Updating - Across Books
FM 9 Version: 9.0p255
Unstructured
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate, 64 bit


Is there any way to edit/update Char and Para tags across all files in a book?

When I started with Frame about 3 years, it was a brand new experience for me 
and I didn't always use (actually, I didn't always know) best practices.

My current project is to try, as I update a book for the next revision, is to 
"fix" many of my original Char and Para tags. I've searched in the Using Adobe 
FrameMaker 9 pdf and Scriptorium's Unstructured FrameMaker 8, but I haven't 
found anything that tells me how to update Char or Para tags across all files 
in a book.

Am I really going to have to do this the hard way?

Alison


Alison Craig
Technical Documentation Lead

604-279-8550 | fax 604-279-8559 | toll-free 1-866-437-9508
Ultrasonix Medical Corporation | www.ultrasonix.com<http://www.ultrasonix.com/>

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Virus alert: If you get an email from me with no subject, do not open it!

2012-08-08 Thread Marguerite Krupp
Someone inadvertently sent me a virus. The email had no subject. Since I
 knew the person, I opened the email. Because I figured it's better to 
err on the side of caution, I'm sending out this warning.

If you get an email from me with no subject, just delete it, unopened. 
If you do this, you'll be OK.

If you're as paranoid about these things as I am, it's a good idea to change 
your email password.

My apologies for the inconvenience and for the spam, but I'd rather be safe 
than sorry.

Marguerite
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