FM11 - Delay with F8 and F9 applying formats
Has anyone else noticed a delay when using F8/F9 for apply formats in FM11? We set up the shortcuts for styles years ago so we only had to 1-3 keys for applying them. It seems to me in FM11 with the format list popping up, there's a 1/2 second or longer delay when trying to apply styles. For example, we use the key combo F8b4ENTER to apply one of our bullet styles. BUT.. in FM11, I've been ending up with our 1_Heading1 style (since its first in line of style names) because the system is playing catch up. It's registering F8, but then has to display the list, so b4 is missed and it just registers the ENTER, applying the first style in the list. -Carla - CONFIDENTIAL- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential, and may also be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not review, use, copy, or distribute this message. If you receive this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply email and then delete this email. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FM11 - Delay with F8 and F9 applying formats
Hi Carla, Yes, I have seen this, particularly with long lists of formats. It is very frustrating. I have been thinking of writing a script that will mimic the old behavior, but I am not sure what is possible. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-283-5045 r...@frameexpert.com -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Martinek, Carla Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 11:02 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: FM11 - Delay with F8 and F9 applying formats Has anyone else noticed a delay when using F8/F9 for apply formats in FM11? We set up the shortcuts for styles years ago so we only had to 1-3 keys for applying them. It seems to me in FM11 with the format list popping up, there's a 1/2 second or longer delay when trying to apply styles. For example, we use the key combo F8b4ENTER to apply one of our bullet styles. BUT.. in FM11, I've been ending up with our 1_Heading1 style (since its first in line of style names) because the system is playing catch up. It's registering F8, but then has to display the list, so b4 is missed and it just registers the ENTER, applying the first style in the list. -Carla - CONFIDENTIAL- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential, and may also be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not review, use, copy, or distribute this message. If you receive this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply email and then delete this email. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as r...@rickquatro.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rick%40rickquatro.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM11 - Delay with F8 and F9 applying formats
Hi Carla Yes, I see this too, also in Structured mode, when I'm using CTRL+1, 2 or 3 to insert, wrap or change elements. Very annoying indeed. The shortcut menu with the list of formats or elements isn't really a shortcut menu anymore. I want the good old (but fast!) Fm8 behavior back. Cheers Yves Barbion www.scripto.nu On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Martinek, Carla cmarti...@zebra.com wrote: Has anyone else noticed a delay when using F8/F9 for apply formats in FM11? We set up the shortcuts for styles years ago so we only had to 1-3 keys for applying them. It seems to me in FM11 with the format list popping up, there's a 1/2 second or longer delay when trying to apply styles. For example, we use the key combo F8b4ENTER to apply one of our bullet styles. BUT.. in FM11, I've been ending up with our 1_Heading1 style (since its first in line of style names) because the system is playing catch up. It's registering F8, but then has to display the list, so b4 is missed and it just registers the ENTER, applying the first style in the list. -Carla - CONFIDENTIAL- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential, and may also be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not review, use, copy, or distribute this message. If you receive this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply email and then delete this email. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as yves.barb...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/yves.barbion%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Yves Barbion www.scripto.nu ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM11 - Delay with F8 and F9 applying formats
On 1 Apr 2013 at 10:01, Martinek, Carla wrote: Has anyone else noticed a delay when using F8/F9 for apply formats in FM11? We set up the shortcuts for styles years ago so we only had to 1-3 keys for applying them. It seems to me in FM11 with the format list popping up, there's a 1/2 second or longer delay when trying to apply styles. Yes, Carla, this delay is very frustrating - especially the delay appearing for the first use of F8/F9 etc. In may case this may be up to 10 seconds. It seems that the internal table with the style names is built up only on first use of the 'short cut' and not just after opening the file. Klaus Daube ~~ Docu + Design Daube; Schäracher 11; CH-8053 Zürich Technical documentation consultancy; On-line and paper F: +41-44-422 86 25 E: d...@daube.ch W: www.daube.ch ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract for FrameMaker?
Hi, Kapil. Okay, I just got off the phone with somebody in the FrameMaker team. Her statement to me was that the Update Plan for FrameMaker is indeed either dead, or essentially not available anymore to anybody who has less than 10,000 points in the Adobe systems. The bottom line: all users with few licenses are essentially shut out. So, it seems that I did *not* get wrong information from the Adobe sales rep I spoke to before! For me, this means that FrameMaker 11 is the _last_ version I will ever use (after having been on the FrameMaker wagon since 1988). Because the version upgrade pricing has gotten way out of hand - from my perspective, _most_ (almost all) of what I paid for with the FM 10 and FM 11 upgrades were bug-fixes for version 9 really! At $399 for the last upgrade, this is simply not acceptable anymore. Even my purchase of the 2 year update plan was for naught (based on my sign-up date for the Update plan, I had to pay for the FM 11 version upgrade _separately_ anyway), since I have not seen FrameMaker 12 come out in that time. I have already begun looking for alternatives and will make do without FrameMaker as soon as we can finish this project - I suspect that my last purchase of any FrameMaker-related product will be for Mif2Go to get all current FrameMaker documents into some other tool. Regards, Z -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 10:41 AM To: Kapil Verma; Robert Lauriston; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract for FrameMaker? Thanks for the response, Kapil. Yes, I would like to get information - the last time, I bought a 2 year Update Plan directly at the Adobe web site (may have been the Adobe store?) in May of 2011, but cannot find that link on the site anymore. Please do let me know who I can speak to about this (as an FYI, I did get an e-mail from somebody else on the FrameMaker team, but we did not connect on Friday). Z -Original Message- From: Kapil Verma [mailto:kve...@adobe.com] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 9:12 AM To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net); Robert Lauriston; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract for FrameMaker? Hi Syed, This is Kapil Verma, Adobe Tech Comm Product Manager. Unfortunately, you have been given wrong information. We continue to offer upgrade plans for both FrameMaker and Acrobat. If you are interested in purchasing/renewing, I will be more than happy to put you in touch with the right folks here at Adobe. Sorry about the confusion. P.S. It will be great if you can email me separately (off list) with some more info on who you had talked to and how did you reach them Thanks, Kapil Verma -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 6:31 AM To: Robert Lauriston; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract for FrameMaker? Robert Lauriston wrote: I had to phone them. Ok-a-a-y ... I am confused now. I just spoke with an Adobe sales rep who claims that they are no longer offering the Upgrade Plan for Acrobat and FrameMaker ... huhn!?!? Even though, Adobe sent me an e-mail in late January reminding me that my current one was going to expire soon (in May fortunately) and I needed to renew? Does anyone know what is going on here? If Adobe is going to charge an arm and a leg to upgrade to the next version of FrameMaker (like I had to do for version 9 and 10 and 11), then that will be the last nail in the coffin, and I will use version 11 till it croaks or find another solution. The cost of FrameMaker has simply become too expensive to work for my needs ... :( Z ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as kve...@adobe.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/kverma%40adobe.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as syed.hos...@aeris.net. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/syed.hosain%40aeris.net Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract for FrameMaker?
Syed - I've been using Frame since 1991 (Frame 2.0.) We've been evaluating MadCap Flare and were ready to switch, but when we looked at FM11 and the new multi-HTML output that appears to be as easy as Flare, it made us stop and take another look. We don't know which way we're going yet.. back into evaluation mode. That said, MadCap being a smaller company is, in general, much more responsive in regards to feature requests. Much like Frame Technologies (and DataLogics) were in the early days with Frame. Their Platinum support plan is worth its cost when you are first using it, and Flare imports Framemaker files directly. However, my recent talk with an Adobe sales mgr letting them know we were *seriously* evaluating a competitor seems to have gotten me better response regarding some of the issues I've been having - more so than I've seen in years. Cost-wise, it may be worth it to you to look at the Adobe cloud-based subscription model. That is supposed to include the latest versions whenever released, but I haven't evaluated the overall cost on a yearly basis yet. -Carla -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 1:02 PM To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net); Kapil Verma; Robert Lauriston; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract for FrameMaker? Hi, Kapil. Okay, I just got off the phone with somebody in the FrameMaker team. Her statement to me was that the Update Plan for FrameMaker is indeed either dead, or essentially not available anymore to anybody who has less than 10,000 points in the Adobe systems. The bottom line: all users with few licenses are essentially shut out. So, it seems that I did *not* get wrong information from the Adobe sales rep I spoke to before! For me, this means that FrameMaker 11 is the _last_ version I will ever use (after having been on the FrameMaker wagon since 1988). Because the version upgrade pricing has gotten way out of hand - from my perspective, _most_ (almost all) of what I paid for with the FM 10 and FM 11 upgrades were bug-fixes for version 9 really! At $399 for the last upgrade, this is simply not acceptable anymore. Even my purchase of the 2 year update plan was for naught (based on my sign-up date for the Update plan, I had to pay for the FM 11 version upgrade _separately_ anyway), since I have not seen FrameMaker 12 come out in that time. I have already begun looking for alternatives and will make do without FrameMaker as soon as we can finish this project - I suspect that my last purchase of any FrameMaker-related product will be for Mif2Go to get all current FrameMaker documents into some other tool. Regards, Z -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 10:41 AM To: Kapil Verma; Robert Lauriston; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract for FrameMaker? Thanks for the response, Kapil. Yes, I would like to get information - the last time, I bought a 2 year Update Plan directly at the Adobe web site (may have been the Adobe store?) in May of 2011, but cannot find that link on the site anymore. Please do let me know who I can speak to about this (as an FYI, I did get an e-mail from somebody else on the FrameMaker team, but we did not connect on Friday). Z -Original Message- From: Kapil Verma [mailto:kve...@adobe.com] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 9:12 AM To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net); Robert Lauriston; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract for FrameMaker? Hi Syed, This is Kapil Verma, Adobe Tech Comm Product Manager. Unfortunately, you have been given wrong information. We continue to offer upgrade plans for both FrameMaker and Acrobat. If you are interested in purchasing/renewing, I will be more than happy to put you in touch with the right folks here at Adobe. Sorry about the confusion. P.S. It will be great if you can email me separately (off list) with some more info on who you had talked to and how did you reach them Thanks, Kapil Verma -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 6:31 AM To: Robert Lauriston; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract for FrameMaker? Robert Lauriston wrote: I had to phone them. Ok-a-a-y ... I am confused now. I just spoke with an Adobe sales rep who claims that they are no longer offering the
RE: Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract for FrameMaker?
File Publish. It may only be active if you have the TCS4 suite installed. I'm no expert on this by any means... this is just a couple days of playing around with the trial version and seeing what happens. Shocked me at how simple it was to publish from unstructured Frame. Yes, it starts using their default templates. You'll definitely spend a significant amount of time setting up style sheets, etc. (But probably less than you would setting up EDDs, etc. for structured Frame the old way.) -C -Original Message- From: robert.lauris...@gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 1:29 PM To: Martinek, Carla; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract for FrameMaker? What new multi-HTML output? The only thing I find in the what's new in FM 11 doc that fits that description is for FrameMaker Publishing Server, which costs $15,000. http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WS8AEE774C-1C6E-43df-95CF-D8C34DA30B21.html#WS92ce23f8a8bab2f32e3840e513712214dd7-7ff4 On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Martinek, Carla cmarti...@zebra.com wrote: We've been evaluating MadCap Flare and were ready to switch, but when we looked at FM11 and the new multi-HTML output that appears to be as easy as Flare, it made us stop and take another look. We don't know which way we're going yet.. back into evaluation mode. - CONFIDENTIAL- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential, and may also be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not review, use, copy, or distribute this message. If you receive this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply email and then delete this email. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract for FrameMaker?
Question: MacCap's site lists upgrades as 'starting at $499' -- we'd love to find a more cost-effective alternative to FrameMaker. The v9 v11 $600 upgrade was a real kick in the pants to start seriously evaluating the cost of continuing to absorb FM's high upgrade fees vs the cost of switching to a different program. We use unstructured Frame, so most of the features added in recent versions of the program have been of no use to us, thus we're paying top dollar for minimal improvement. But $499 seems even higher than Frame's one-version upgrades? Or is this only a better deal financially if replacing Frame + RoboHelp? Tori Muir tm...@spot-on-creative.com | 650.430.8674 www.spot-on-creative.com On 4/1/13 11:22 AM, Martinek, Carla wrote: Syed - I've been using Frame since 1991 (Frame 2.0.) We've been evaluating MadCap Flare and were ready to switch, but when we looked at FM11 and the new multi-HTML output that appears to be as easy as Flare, it made us stop and take another look. We don't know which way we're going yet.. back into evaluation mode. That said, MadCap being a smaller company is, in general, much more responsive in regards to feature requests. Much like Frame Technologies (and DataLogics) were in the early days with Frame. Their Platinum support plan is worth its cost when you are first using it, and Flare imports Framemaker files directly. However, my recent talk with an Adobe sales mgr letting them know we were *seriously* evaluating a competitor seems to have gotten me better response regarding some of the issues I've been having - more so than I've seen in years. Cost-wise, it may be worth it to you to look at the Adobe cloud-based subscription model. That is supposed to include the latest versions whenever released, but I haven't evaluated the overall cost on a yearly basis yet. -Carla -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 1:02 PM To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net); Kapil Verma; Robert Lauriston; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract for FrameMaker? Hi, Kapil. Okay, I just got off the phone with somebody in the FrameMaker team. Her statement to me was that the Update Plan for FrameMaker is indeed either dead, or essentially not available anymore to anybody who has less than 10,000 points in the Adobe systems. The bottom line: all users with few licenses are essentially shut out. So, it seems that I did *not* get wrong information from the Adobe sales rep I spoke to before! For me, this means that FrameMaker 11 is the _last_ version I will ever use (after having been on the FrameMaker wagon since 1988). Because the version upgrade pricing has gotten way out of hand - from my perspective, _most_ (almost all) of what I paid for with the FM 10 and FM 11 upgrades were bug-fixes for version 9 really! At $399 for the last upgrade, this is simply not acceptable anymore. Even my purchase of the 2 year update plan was for naught (based on my sign-up date for the Update plan, I had to pay for the FM 11 version upgrade _separately_ anyway), since I have not seen FrameMaker 12 come out in that time. I have already begun looking for alternatives and will make do without FrameMaker as soon as we can finish this project - I suspect that my last purchase of any FrameMaker-related product will be for Mif2Go to get all current FrameMaker documents into some other tool. Regards, Z -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 10:41 AM To: Kapil Verma; Robert Lauriston; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract for FrameMaker? Thanks for the response, Kapil. Yes, I would like to get information - the last time, I bought a 2 year Update Plan directly at the Adobe web site (may have been the Adobe store?) in May of 2011, but cannot find that link on the site anymore. Please do let me know who I can speak to about this (as an FYI, I did get an e-mail from somebody else on the FrameMaker team, but we did not connect on Friday). Z -Original Message- From: Kapil Verma [mailto:kve...@adobe.com] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 9:12 AM To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net); Robert Lauriston; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract for FrameMaker? Hi Syed, This is Kapil Verma, Adobe Tech Comm Product Manager. Unfortunately, you have been given wrong information. We continue to offer upgrade plans for both FrameMaker and Acrobat. If you are interested in purchasing/renewing, I will be more than happy to
Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy files
FM 10.0 (all patched and current)/Win 7, 64 -bit I have a book with 10 chapters and some appendices. Many of the chapters are graphic-laden, but all graphics are imported by reference. None are copied. Over the last few months when working on this book, I have noticed that paging through the opened chapters is taking an increased amount of time and that the files are very slow to refresh with the appropriate graphics displayed. I have tried the CTRL + L trick as well as the tried and true Page Up/Page Down trick to get the pages to refresh faster and that doesn't seem to help at all. It's really slowing me down to try to move through the chapters this way. If I need to get somewhere fast, I use the CTRL/G function to go to a specific page and then hope I am w/in one or two pages of where I want to be. This issue just seems to have progressed and gotten worse and worse over time, and I haven't added any more plugins/changed the setup, etc. I was just wondering if anyone else has seen this issue/encountered this over time with FM10. TIA, TVB ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy files
Are your files stored locally or on a networked drive? Lea _ Lea Rush Software and Documentation Specialist Astoria-Pacific http://www.astoria-pacific.com/ www.astoria-pacific.com http://www.a/ P: 800-536-3111, +1-503-657-3010 Please consider the environment before printing this email. `·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸ º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸º NOTICE OF CONFIDENTIALITY This communication is from Astoria-Pacific and is intended to be confidential and solely for the use of the persons or entities addressed above. If you are not an intended recipient, be aware that the information contained herein may be protected from unauthorized use by privilege or law, and any copying, distribution, disclosure, or other use of this information is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender by return email or telephone (503) 657-3010 immediately, and delete or destroy all copies. Thank you for your cooperation. From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tammy Van Boening Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 3:40 PM To: 'framers' Subject: Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy files FM 10.0 (all patched and current)/Win 7, 64 -bit I have a book with 10 chapters and some appendices. Many of the chapters are graphic-laden, but all graphics are imported by reference. None are copied. Over the last few months when working on this book, I have noticed that paging through the opened chapters is taking an increased amount of time and that the files are very slow to refresh with the appropriate graphics displayed. I have tried the CTRL + L trick as well as the tried and true Page Up/Page Down trick to get the pages to refresh faster and that doesn't seem to help at all. It's really slowing me down to try to move through the chapters this way. If I need to get somewhere fast, I use the CTRL/G function to go to a specific page and then hope I am w/in one or two pages of where I want to be. This issue just seems to have progressed and gotten worse and worse over time, and I haven't added any more plugins/changed the setup, etc. I was just wondering if anyone else has seen this issue/encountered this over time with FM10. TIA, TVB ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy files
Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy filesTammy, What type of graphic(s) are involved??? .eps, .tif, .???, or .pfs note - if printed output is needed . . . colors in CMYK will be required and FM-10 will not mess with them, even in the Windows environment. and you will probably want 300dpi for best results and (in my case. . . of 3k catalog pp/yr - each averaging 3.25 images/p) - .tif processes the quickest. i do not know the physical difference between .eps and .tif, but, a 4.3k .eps file = the print quality of the same graphic when it is a .tif at 1.25k. size must have something to do with amount of processing involved. changing to .tifs has saved me sooo much time . . . is now a pleasure to see the progress-bar actually hurry across the screen. if you need a script to do this conversion . . . talk with Rick Quatro - Original Message - From: Tammy Van Boening To: 'framers' Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 6:40 PM Subject: Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy files FM 10.0 (all patched and current)/Win 7, 64 -bit I have a book with 10 chapters and some appendices. Many of the chapters are graphic-laden, but all graphics are imported by reference. None are copied. Over the last few months when working on this book, I have noticed that paging through the opened chapters is taking an increased amount of time and that the files are very slow to refresh with the appropriate graphics displayed. I have tried the CTRL + L trick as well as the tried and true Page Up/Page Down trick to get the pages to refresh faster and that doesn't seem to help at all. It's really slowing me down to try to move through the chapters this way. If I need to get somewhere fast, I use the CTRL/G function to go to a specific page and then hope I am w/in one or two pages of where I want to be. This issue just seems to have progressed and gotten worse and worse over time, and I haven't added any more plugins/changed the setup, etc. I was just wondering if anyone else has seen this issue/encountered this over time with FM10. TIA, TVB -- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as sgmli...@tds.net. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/sgmlindy%40tds.net Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: messages to fmer...@adobe.com bounce
Suzanne, Thanks for bringing this to Adobe’s attention. I’m sorry you’ve had this problem for a couple of days now. I’ve escalated this issue, and have been told that Adobe IT is looking into the problem. A further update when I have more information on this. Regards, David | Senior Content and Community Lead | Illustrator | Elements | Lightroom | Camera Raw 33819 | +91 300 177 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Suzanne Bolduc Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 3:33 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: messages to fmer...@adobe.com bounce hi, would someone know what happens with the e-mail alias fmer...@adobe.commailto:fmer...@adobe.com lately? When FM crashed earlier this week I tried sending the log file as I normally do but this time it bounced. I tried resending again, and tried a couple more times over the last days, to no avail. the Delivery Failure Report tells me that my message was not delivered to:fmer...@adobe.commailto:fmer...@adobe.com because:550 No such user - psmtp I know I was still able to send log files to this address in January. I found forum posts about a similar issue with an Adobe e-mail alias for a different product, but that problem had reportedly been resolved at some point. is Adobe experiencing problems with their e-mail servers? or are these aliases being retired? thanks, Suzanne ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
ANN: Apr 3 webinar 9AM PAC Focused Highlights of Standard (unstructured) FrameMaker 11
@mattrsullivan guests in our April 3 webinar @ 9AM Focused Highlights of Standard (unstructured) FrameMaker 11 adobe.ly/ZMXLjO In this webinar, participants will see live demonstrations of some of the most interesting new features in FrameMaker 11, including object styles, image hotspots, video options, and smart insert functions. FYI – This session may be of particular interest to Microsoft Word users whose workflow has outgrown their product due to increased volume or complexity. In this dynamic session, you will learn the following, among other things: See how to hyperlink a portion of a graphic to relevant text See how to add cues that will jump to desired locations w/in an embedded video Insert styles, conditions, variables and more with “smart insert” About the Presenter: Matt Sullivan focuses on online training and Adobe’s technical communication and online training technologies. Matt’s background in digital prepress prepared him for his current job, helping companies and individuals produce content using both the Adobe Technical Communication Suite and Adobe Creative Suite. He regularly trains groups in all related applications and also consults in document conversion and template design for both structured and unstructured documents. He is an Adobe beta tester and regular Adobe representative at industry conferences. You may register at: adobe.ly/ZMXLjO Maxwell Hoffmann | Product Evangelist | Adobe | p. 503.336.5952 | c. 503.805.3719 | mhoff...@adobe.commailto:mhoff...@adobe.com http://twitter.com/maxwellhoffmann - http://www.linkedin.com/in/maxwellhoffmann blogs.adobe.com/techcomm Upcoming webinars http://adobe.ly/Pbz6xIRecorded webinars: http://adobe.ly/Pbdp0J ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM11 - Delay with F8 and F9 applying formats
Not really...I press F9 and the menu pops up almost immediately From: Martinek, Carla cmarti...@zebra.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com Date: 04/01/2013 11:00 AM Subject:FM11 - Delay with F8 and F9 applying formats Sent by:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com Has anyone else noticed a delay when using F8/F9 for apply formats in FM11? We set up the shortcuts for styles years ago so we only had to 1-3 keys for applying them. It seems to me in FM11 with the format list popping up, there's a 1/2 second or longer delay when trying to apply styles. For example, we use the key combo F8b4ENTER to apply one of our bullet styles. BUT.. in FM11, I've been ending up with our 1_Heading1 style (since its first in line of style names) because the system is playing catch up. It's registering F8, but then has to display the list, so b4 is missed and it just registers the ENTER, applying the first style in the list. -Carla - ** This E-mail is confidential. It may also be legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you may not copy, forward, disclose or use any part of it. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and all copies from your system and notify the sender immediately by return E-mail. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be timely, secure, error or virus-free. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions. ** SAVE PAPER - THINK BEFORE YOU PRINT! ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
TCS version control support
I'm starting to migrate my source from CVS to Subversion, which made me realize that despite being thrown together in Adobe's Technical Communication Suite, there's no overlap between the integrated version control. FrameMaker supports SharePoint and Documentum, RoboHelp supports Subversion and MS Team Foundation Server. No big deal, just kind of lame. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract for FrameMaker?
I believe the Publish command comes with TCS, but when I played with it the workflow seemed wrong. The simple workflow where you just create a RoboHelp project and link to (rather than import) FrameMaker source is not documented very well, if at all. I created a cheat sheet for my own future reference: http://lauriston.com/fm10_link_to_rh9.zip The instructions are in the FrameMaker project in the /fm directory, and also in the PDF generated from that project, also in that directory. On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Martinek, Carla cmarti...@zebra.com wrote: File Publish. It may only be active if you have the TCS4 suite installed. I'm no expert on this by any means... this is just a couple days of playing around with the trial version and seeing what happens. Shocked me at how simple it was to publish from unstructured Frame. Yes, it starts using their default templates. You'll definitely spend a significant amount of time setting up style sheets, etc. (But probably less than you would setting up EDDs, etc. for structured Frame the old way.) ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract for FrameMaker?
Why pay anything to upgrade FrameMaker? Adobe hasn't added any features that I'd pay for since FM8 added Unicode support. I never do anything new with it so I never need support. What requirements do you have that FM9's not meeting? On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Tori Muir tm...@spot-on-creative.com wrote: Question: MacCap's site lists upgrades as 'starting at $499' -- we'd love to find a more cost-effective alternative to FrameMaker. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM11 - Delay with F8 and F9 applying formats
Hi Carla,Yes, there's a delay the first time you use Smart Insert in a doc, and if you type too rapidly, there's usually an error in which tag is selected. I've also seen where the correct tag is visible (perhaps at the bottom of the list of available tags, but a different tag is actually selected. -MattMatt R. Sullivanco-authorPublishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker 11P:714.960.6840 |C:714.585.2335 |m...@mattrsullivan.com@mattrsullivanLinkedInfacebookmattrsullivan.com On Apr 1, 2013, at 8:06 AM, john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com wrote:Not really...I press F9 and the menu pops up almost immediately From: "Martinek, Carla" cmarti...@zebra.com To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" framers@lists.frameusers.com Date: 04/01/2013 11:00 AM Subject: FM11 - Delay with F8 and F9 applying formats Sent by: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com Has anyone else noticed a delay when using F8/F9 for apply formats in FM11?We set up the shortcuts for styles years ago so we only had to 1-3 keys forapplying them. It seems to me in FM11 with the format list popping up,there's a 1/2 second or longer delay when trying to apply styles.For example, we use the key combo F8b4ENTER to apply one of our bulletstyles. BUT.. in FM11, I've been ending up with our 1_Heading1 style (sinceits first in line of style names) because the system is playing catch up.It's registering F8, but then has to display the list, so "b4" is missedand it just registers the ENTER, applying the first style in the list.-Carla-**This E-mail is confidential. It may also be legally privileged. Ifyou are not the addressee you may not copy, forward, disclose oruse any part of it. If you have received this message in error,please delete it and all copies from your system and notify thesender immediately by return E-mail.Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be timely, secure,error or virus-free. The sender does not accept liability for anyerrors or omissions.**SAVE PAPER - THINK BEFORE YOU PRINT!___You are currently subscribed to framers as m...@mattrsullivan.com.Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com.To unsubscribe send a blank email toframers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.comor visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/matt%40mattrsullivan.comSend administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visithttp://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract for FrameMaker?
We had a client that wanted line numbers in a document, a new feature in v11. We would not have upgraded otherwise. It was literally a 'if Frame can't number the lines, we put this back into Word' situation -- for a 400 page specification document. I cannot imagine the pain of trying to wrangle something that large and complex in Word! Sadly, having spent the flippin' $600 to upgrade, they were not happy with how Frame does the line numbers (they wanted contiguous numbers thru the entire 400-page book, whereas Frame restarts in every chapter and at every 1000th line). So we ended up having to throw the problem over to Rick Quatro, who came up with an excellent scripted solution at a fraction of the upgrade cost. Which is quite possibly why I'm so peevish about the upgrade price:we spent $600/employee for nothing we could use. Tori Muir tm...@spot-on-creative.com On 4/1/13 12:11 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote: Why pay anything to upgrade FrameMaker? Adobe hasn't added any features that I'd pay for since FM8 added Unicode support. I never do anything new with it so I never need support. What requirements do you have that FM9's not meeting? On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Tori Muirtm...@spot-on-creative.com wrote: Question: MacCap's site lists upgrades as 'starting at $499' -- we'd love to find a more cost-effective alternative to FrameMaker. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as tm...@spot-on-creative.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/tmuir%40spot-on-creative.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract for FrameMaker?
Hi, Tori, Your observation of top dollar for minimal improvement sounds right to me, unfortunately! I also only use Unstructured FrameMaker at this time, btw. Here is what I have spent on upgrading FrameMaker in the recent past few years (I did _not_ bother to include the upgrades _prior_ to version 8.0): $289 for FrameMaker version 8. $304 for FrameMaker version 9. $393 for FrameMaker version 10. $436 for 2 year update plan (included the 2 year update cost for Acrobat Pro too ... at around $126, as I recall). Would I say that it has been worth it? Not recently ... particularly since I think that versions 10 and 11 should have been released as bug fixes for version 9, as far as I am concerned, and should _not_ have been charged for. With my luck, FrameMaker 12 will be released _after_ my current plan expires. :( You may ask why I was wanting to sign up for the Update Plan again? Well, I was hoping it would be at a lower cost (and make it palatable) than the [expected] $399 for a version 12 upgrade. But, at these prices, I can no longer justify using FrameMaker for my documentation needs. The removal of this Update Plan mostly just crystallized my decision, I guess. Now, I will probably just spend some money for a purchase of Mif2Go to transfer my documents out of FrameMaker. So, yes! Adobe has just lost a long-time FrameMaker customer. Time to move on, I guess ... after 25 years. :) (And, FWIW, if I cannot find an update plan for Acrobat Pro on their web site, then that will also be dropped when that Update Plan expires ... there are plenty of way good-enough PDF generation solutions out there now, available for far less cost than Acrobat Pro.) Z -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tori Muir Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 12:02 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract for FrameMaker? Question: MacCap's site lists upgrades as 'starting at $499' -- we'd love to find a more cost-effective alternative to FrameMaker. The v9 v11 $600 upgrade was a real kick in the pants to start seriously evaluating the cost of continuing to absorb FM's high upgrade fees vs the cost of switching to a different program. We use unstructured Frame, so most of the features added in recent versions of the program have been of no use to us, thus we're paying top dollar for minimal improvement. But $499 seems even higher than Frame's one-version upgrades? Or is this only a better deal financially if replacing Frame + RoboHelp? Tori Muir tm...@spot-on-creative.com | 650.430.8674 www.spot-on-creative.com On 4/1/13 11:22 AM, Martinek, Carla wrote: Syed - I've been using Frame since 1991 (Frame 2.0.) We've been evaluating MadCap Flare and were ready to switch, but when we looked at FM11 and the new multi-HTML output that appears to be as easy as Flare, it made us stop and take another look. We don't know which way we're going yet.. back into evaluation mode. That said, MadCap being a smaller company is, in general, much more responsive in regards to feature requests. Much like Frame Technologies (and DataLogics) were in the early days with Frame. Their Platinum support plan is worth its cost when you are first using it, and Flare imports Framemaker files directly. However, my recent talk with an Adobe sales mgr letting them know we were *seriously* evaluating a competitor seems to have gotten me better response regarding some of the issues I've been having - more so than I've seen in years. Cost-wise, it may be worth it to you to look at the Adobe cloud-based subscription model. That is supposed to include the latest versions whenever released, but I haven't evaluated the overall cost on a yearly basis yet. -Carla -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 1:02 PM To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net); Kapil Verma; Robert Lauriston; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract for FrameMaker? Hi, Kapil. Okay, I just got off the phone with somebody in the FrameMaker team. Her statement to me was that the Update Plan for FrameMaker is indeed either dead, or essentially not available anymore to anybody who has less than 10,000 points in the Adobe systems. The bottom line: all users with few licenses are essentially shut out. So, it seems that I did *not* get wrong information from the Adobe sales rep I spoke to before! For me, this means that FrameMaker 11 is the _last_ version I will ever use (after having been on the FrameMaker wagon since 1988). Because the version upgrade pricing has gotten way out of hand - from my perspective, _most_
FM11 - Delay with F8 and F9 applying formats
Hi Carla, Yes, I have seen this, particularly with long lists of formats. It is very frustrating. I have been thinking of writing a script that will mimic the old behavior, but I am not sure what is possible. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-283-5045 rick at frameexpert.com -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Martinek, Carla Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 11:02 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: FM11 - Delay with F8 and F9 applying formats Has anyone else noticed a delay when using F8/F9 for apply formats in FM11? We set up the shortcuts for styles years ago so we only had to 1-3 keys for applying them. It seems to me in FM11 with the format list popping up, there's a 1/2 second or longer delay when trying to apply styles. For example, we use the key combo F8>b4>ENTER to apply one of our bullet styles. BUT.. in FM11, I've been ending up with our 1_Heading1 style (since its first in line of style names) because the system is playing catch up. It's registering F8, but then has to display the list, so "b4" is missed and it just registers the ENTER, applying the first style in the list. -Carla - CONFIDENTIAL- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential, and may also be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not review, use, copy, or distribute this message. If you receive this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply email and then delete this email. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as rick at rickquatro.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rick%40rickquatro.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FM11 - Delay with F8 and F9 applying formats
Hi Carla Yes, I see this too, also in Structured mode, when I'm using CTRL+1, 2 or 3 to insert, wrap or change elements. Very annoying indeed. The "shortcut" menu with the list of formats or elements isn't really a shortcut menu anymore. I want the good old (but fast!) Fm8 behavior back. Cheers Yves Barbion www.scripto.nu On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Martinek, Carla wrote: > Has anyone else noticed a delay when using F8/F9 for apply formats in FM11? > > We set up the shortcuts for styles years ago so we only had to 1-3 keys > for applying them. It seems to me in FM11 with the format list popping up, > there's a 1/2 second or longer delay when trying to apply styles. > > For example, we use the key combo F8>b4>ENTER to apply one of our bullet > styles. BUT.. in FM11, I've been ending up with our 1_Heading1 style (since > its first in line of style names) because the system is playing catch up. > It's registering F8, but then has to display the list, so "b4" is missed > and it just registers the ENTER, applying the first style in the list. > > -Carla > > > - CONFIDENTIAL- > > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential, and may > also be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you may > not review, use, copy, or distribute this message. If you receive this > email in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply email and > then delete this email. > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as yves.barbion at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/yves.barbion%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Yves Barbion www.scripto.nu ------ next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130401/0a4cd5ff/attachment.html>
FM11 - Delay with F8 and F9 applying formats
On 1 Apr 2013 at 10:01, Martinek, Carla wrote: > Has anyone else noticed a delay when using F8/F9 for apply formats in > FM11? > > We set up the shortcuts for styles years ago so we only had to 1-3 keys > for applying them. It seems to me in FM11 with the format list popping > up, there's a 1/2 second or longer delay when trying to apply styles. Yes, Carla, this delay is very frustrating - especially the delay appearing for the first use of F8/F9 etc. In may case this may be up to 10 seconds. It seems that the internal table with the style names is built up only on first use of the 'short cut' and not just after opening the file. Klaus Daube ~~ Docu + Design Daube; Sch?racher 11; CH-8053 Z?rich Technical documentation & consultancy; On-line and paper F: +41-44-422 86 25 E: ddd at daube.ch W: www.daube.ch
Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract for FrameMaker?
Hi, Kapil. Okay, I just got off the phone with somebody "in the FrameMaker team". Her statement to me was that the Update Plan for FrameMaker is indeed either dead, or essentially not available anymore to anybody who has less than 10,000 points in the Adobe systems. The bottom line: all users with few licenses are essentially shut out. So, it seems that I did *not* get wrong information from the Adobe sales rep I spoke to before! For me, this means that FrameMaker 11 is the _last_ version I will ever use (after having been on the FrameMaker wagon since 1988). Because the version upgrade pricing has gotten way out of hand - from my perspective, _most_ (almost all) of what I paid for with the FM 10 and FM 11 upgrades were bug-fixes for version 9 really! At $399 for the last upgrade, this is simply not acceptable anymore. Even my purchase of the 2 year update plan was for naught (based on my sign-up date for the Update plan, I had to pay for the FM 11 version upgrade _separately_ anyway), since I have not seen FrameMaker 12 come out in that time. I have already begun looking for alternatives and will make do without FrameMaker as soon as we can finish this project - I suspect that my last purchase of any FrameMaker-related product will be for Mif2Go to get all current FrameMaker documents into some other tool. Regards, Z -Original Message- From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 10:41 AM To: Kapil Verma; Robert Lauriston; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract for FrameMaker? Thanks for the response, Kapil. Yes, I would like to get information - the last time, I bought a 2 year Update Plan directly at the Adobe web site (may have been the Adobe store?) in May of 2011, but cannot find that link on the site anymore. Please do let me know who I can speak to about this (as an FYI, I did get an e-mail from somebody else on the FrameMaker team, but we did not connect on Friday). Z -Original Message- From: Kapil Verma [mailto:kve...@adobe.com] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 9:12 AM To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net); Robert Lauriston; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract for FrameMaker? Hi Syed, This is Kapil Verma, Adobe Tech Comm Product Manager. Unfortunately, you have been given wrong information. We continue to offer upgrade plans for both FrameMaker and Acrobat. If you are interested in purchasing/renewing, I will be more than happy to put you in touch with the right folks here at Adobe. Sorry about the confusion. P.S. It will be great if you can email me separately (off list) with some more info on who you had talked to and how did you reach them Thanks, Kapil Verma -Original Message- From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 6:31 AM To: Robert Lauriston; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract for FrameMaker? Robert Lauriston wrote: > I had to phone them. Ok-a-a-y ... I am confused now. I just spoke with an Adobe sales rep who claims that they are no longer offering the Upgrade Plan for Acrobat and FrameMaker ... huhn!?!? Even though, Adobe sent me an e-mail in late January reminding me that my current one was going to expire soon (in May fortunately) and I needed to renew? Does anyone know what is going on here? If Adobe is going to charge an arm and a leg to upgrade to the next version of FrameMaker (like I had to do for version 9 and 10 and 11), then that will be the last nail in the coffin, and I will use version 11 till it croaks or find another solution. The cost of FrameMaker has simply become too expensive to work for my needs ... :( Z ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as kverma at adobe.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/kverma%40adobe.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as Syed.Hosain at aeris.net. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/syed.hosain%40aeris.net Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for
Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract for FrameMaker?
Syed - I've been using Frame since 1991 (Frame 2.0.) We've been evaluating MadCap Flare and were ready to switch, but when we looked at FM11 and the new multi-HTML output that appears to be as easy as Flare, it made us stop and take another look. We don't know which way we're going yet.. back into evaluation mode. That said, MadCap being a smaller company is, in general, much more responsive in regards to feature requests. Much like Frame Technologies (and DataLogics) were in the early days with Frame. Their Platinum support plan is worth its cost when you are first using it, and Flare imports Framemaker files directly. However, my recent talk with an Adobe sales mgr letting them know we were *seriously* evaluating a competitor seems to have gotten me better response regarding some of the issues I've been having - more so than I've seen in years. Cost-wise, it may be worth it to you to look at the Adobe cloud-based subscription model. That is supposed to include the latest versions whenever released, but I haven't evaluated the overall cost on a yearly basis yet. -Carla -Original Message- From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 1:02 PM To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net); Kapil Verma; Robert Lauriston; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract for FrameMaker? Hi, Kapil. Okay, I just got off the phone with somebody "in the FrameMaker team". Her statement to me was that the Update Plan for FrameMaker is indeed either dead, or essentially not available anymore to anybody who has less than 10,000 points in the Adobe systems. The bottom line: all users with few licenses are essentially shut out. So, it seems that I did *not* get wrong information from the Adobe sales rep I spoke to before! For me, this means that FrameMaker 11 is the _last_ version I will ever use (after having been on the FrameMaker wagon since 1988). Because the version upgrade pricing has gotten way out of hand - from my perspective, _most_ (almost all) of what I paid for with the FM 10 and FM 11 upgrades were bug-fixes for version 9 really! At $399 for the last upgrade, this is simply not acceptable anymore. Even my purchase of the 2 year update plan was for naught (based on my sign-up date for the Update plan, I had to pay for the FM 11 version upgrade _separately_ anyway), since I have not seen FrameMaker 12 come out in that time. I have already begun looking for alternatives and will make do without FrameMaker as soon as we can finish this project - I suspect that my last purchase of any FrameMaker-related product will be for Mif2Go to get all current FrameMaker documents into some other tool. Regards, Z -Original Message- From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 10:41 AM To: Kapil Verma; Robert Lauriston; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract for FrameMaker? Thanks for the response, Kapil. Yes, I would like to get information - the last time, I bought a 2 year Update Plan directly at the Adobe web site (may have been the Adobe store?) in May of 2011, but cannot find that link on the site anymore. Please do let me know who I can speak to about this (as an FYI, I did get an e-mail from somebody else on the FrameMaker team, but we did not connect on Friday). Z -Original Message- From: Kapil Verma [mailto:kve...@adobe.com] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 9:12 AM To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net); Robert Lauriston; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract for FrameMaker? Hi Syed, This is Kapil Verma, Adobe Tech Comm Product Manager. Unfortunately, you have been given wrong information. We continue to offer upgrade plans for both FrameMaker and Acrobat. If you are interested in purchasing/renewing, I will be more than happy to put you in touch with the right folks here at Adobe. Sorry about the confusion. P.S. It will be great if you can email me separately (off list) with some more info on who you had talked to and how did you reach them Thanks, Kapil Verma -Original Message- From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 6:31 AM To: Robert Lauriston; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract for FrameMaker? Robert Lauriston wrote: > I had to phone them. Ok-a-a-y ... I am confused now. I just spoke with an Adobe sales rep who claims
Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract for FrameMaker?
File > Publish. It may only be active if you have the TCS4 suite installed. I'm no expert on this by any means... this is just a couple days of playing around with the trial version and seeing what happens. Shocked me at how simple it was to publish from unstructured Frame. Yes, it starts using their default templates. You'll definitely spend a significant amount of time setting up style sheets, etc. (But probably less than you would setting up EDDs, etc. for structured Frame the old way.) -C -Original Message- From: robert.lauriston at gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 1:29 PM To: Martinek, Carla; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract for FrameMaker? What "new multi-HTML output"? The only thing I find in the "what's new in FM 11" doc that fits that description is for FrameMaker Publishing Server, which costs $15,000. http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WS8AEE774C-1C6E-43df-95CF-D8C34DA30B21.html#WS92ce23f8a8bab2f32e3840e513712214dd7-7ff4 On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Martinek, Carla wrote: > We've been evaluating MadCap Flare and were ready to switch, but when we > looked at FM11 and the new multi-HTML output that appears to be as easy as > Flare, it made us stop and take another look. We don't know which way we're > going yet.. back into evaluation mode. - CONFIDENTIAL- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential, and may also be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not review, use, copy, or distribute this message. If you receive this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply email and then delete this email.
Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract for FrameMaker?
Question: MacCap's site lists upgrades as 'starting at $499' -- we'd love to find a more cost-effective alternative to FrameMaker. The v9 > v11 $600 upgrade was a real kick in the pants to start seriously evaluating the cost of continuing to absorb FM's high upgrade fees vs the cost of switching to a different program. We use unstructured Frame, so most of the features added in recent versions of the program have been of no use to us, thus we're paying top dollar for minimal improvement. But $499 seems even higher than Frame's one-version upgrades? Or is this only a better deal financially if replacing Frame + RoboHelp? Tori Muir tmuir at spot-on-creative.com | 650.430.8674 www.spot-on-creative.com On 4/1/13 11:22 AM, Martinek, Carla wrote: > Syed - > > I've been using Frame since 1991 (Frame 2.0.) > > We've been evaluating MadCap Flare and were ready to switch, but when we > looked at FM11 and the new multi-HTML output that appears to be as easy as > Flare, it made us stop and take another look. We don't know which way we're > going yet.. back into evaluation mode. > > That said, MadCap being a smaller company is, in general, much more > responsive in regards to feature requests. Much like Frame Technologies (and > DataLogics) were in the early days with Frame. Their Platinum support plan is > worth its cost when you are first using it, and Flare imports Framemaker > files directly. However, my recent talk with an Adobe sales mgr letting them > know we were *seriously* evaluating a competitor seems to have gotten me > better response regarding some of the issues I've been having - more so than > I've seen in years. > > Cost-wise, it may be worth it to you to look at the Adobe cloud-based > subscription model. That is supposed to include the latest versions whenever > released, but I haven't evaluated the overall cost on a yearly basis yet. > > -Carla > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at > lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at > aeris.net) > Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 1:02 PM > To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net); Kapil Verma; Robert > Lauriston; framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract > for FrameMaker? > > Hi, Kapil. > > Okay, I just got off the phone with somebody "in the FrameMaker team". Her > statement to me was that the Update Plan for FrameMaker is indeed either > dead, or essentially not available anymore to anybody who has less than > 10,000 points in the Adobe systems. > > The bottom line: all users with few licenses are essentially shut out. > > So, it seems that I did *not* get wrong information from the Adobe sales rep > I spoke to before! > > For me, this means that FrameMaker 11 is the _last_ version I will ever use > (after having been on the FrameMaker wagon since 1988). > > Because the version upgrade pricing has gotten way out of hand - from my > perspective, _most_ (almost all) of what I paid for with the FM 10 and FM 11 > upgrades were bug-fixes for version 9 really! > > At $399 for the last upgrade, this is simply not acceptable anymore. Even my > purchase of the 2 year update plan was for naught (based on my sign-up date > for the Update plan, I had to pay for the FM 11 version upgrade _separately_ > anyway), since I have not seen FrameMaker 12 come out in that time. > > I have already begun looking for alternatives and will make do without > FrameMaker as soon as we can finish this project - I suspect that my last > purchase of any FrameMaker-related product will be for Mif2Go to get all > current FrameMaker documents into some other tool. > > Regards, > > Z > > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at > lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at > aeris.net) > Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 10:41 AM > To: Kapil Verma; Robert Lauriston; framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract > for FrameMaker? > > Thanks for the response, Kapil. > > Yes, I would like to get information - the last time, I bought a 2 year > Update Plan directly at the Adobe web site (may have been the Adobe store?) > in May of 2011, but cannot find that link on the site anymore. > > Please do let me know who I can speak to about this (as an FYI, I did get an > e-mail from somebody else on the FrameMaker team, but we did not connect on > Friday). > > Z > > -Original Message- > From: Kapil Verma [mailto:kverma at adobe.com] > Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 9:12 AM > To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net); Robert Lauriston; framers > at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract > for FrameMaker? > > Hi Syed, > > This is Kapil Verma, Adobe Tech Comm
Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy files
FM 10.0 (all patched and current)/Win 7, 64 -bit I have a book with 10 chapters and some appendices. Many of the chapters are graphic-laden, but all graphics are imported by reference. None are copied. Over the last few months when working on this book, I have noticed that paging through the opened chapters is taking an increased amount of time and that the files are very slow to refresh with the appropriate graphics displayed. I have tried the CTRL + L trick as well as the tried and true Page Up/Page Down trick to get the pages to refresh faster and that doesn't seem to help at all. It's really slowing me down to try to move through the chapters this way. If I need to get somewhere fast, I use the CTRL/G function to go to a specific page and then hope I am w/in one or two pages of where I want to be. This issue just seems to have progressed and gotten worse and worse over time, and I haven't added any more plugins/changed the setup, etc. I was just wondering if anyone else has seen this issue/encountered this over time with FM10. TIA, TVB -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130401/ddd63c0e/attachment.html>
Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy files
Are your files stored locally or on a networked drive? Lea _ Lea Rush Software and Documentation Specialist Astoria-Pacific <http://www.astoria-pacific.com/> www.astoria-pacific.com <http://www.a/> P: 800-536-3111, +1-503-657-3010 Please consider the environment before printing this email. `?.??.???`?.?.???`?...? ><?>`?.??.???`?.?.???`?...?><?> NOTICE OF CONFIDENTIALITY This communication is from Astoria-Pacific and is intended to be confidential and solely for the use of the persons or entities addressed above. If you are not an intended recipient, be aware that the information contained herein may be protected from unauthorized use by privilege or law, and any copying, distribution, disclosure, or other use of this information is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender by return email or telephone (503) 657-3010 immediately, and delete or destroy all copies. Thank you for your cooperation. From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tammy Van Boening Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 3:40 PM To: 'framers' Subject: Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy files FM 10.0 (all patched and current)/Win 7, 64 -bit I have a book with 10 chapters and some appendices. Many of the chapters are graphic-laden, but all graphics are imported by reference. None are copied. Over the last few months when working on this book, I have noticed that paging through the opened chapters is taking an increased amount of time and that the files are very slow to refresh with the appropriate graphics displayed. I have tried the CTRL + L trick as well as the tried and true Page Up/Page Down trick to get the pages to refresh faster and that doesn't seem to help at all. It's really slowing me down to try to move through the chapters this way. If I need to get somewhere fast, I use the CTRL/G function to go to a specific page and then hope I am w/in one or two pages of where I want to be. This issue just seems to have progressed and gotten worse and worse over time, and I haven't added any more plugins/changed the setup, etc. I was just wondering if anyone else has seen this issue/encountered this over time with FM10. TIA, TVB -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130401/0cc3e7c8/attachment.html>
Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy files
Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy filesTammy, What type of graphic(s) are involved??? .eps, .tif, .???, or .pfs note - if printed output is needed . . . colors in CMYK will be required and FM-10 will not mess with them, even in the Windows environment. and you will probably want 300dpi for best results and (in my case. . . of 3k catalog pp/yr - each averaging 3.25 images/p) - .tif processes the quickest. i do not know the physical difference between .eps and .tif, but, a 4.3k .eps file = the print quality of the same graphic when it is a .tif at 1.25k. size must have something to do with amount of processing involved. changing to .tifs has saved me sooo much time . . . is now a pleasure to see the progress-bar actually hurry across the screen. if you need a script to do this conversion . . . talk with Rick Quatro - Original Message - From: Tammy Van Boening To: 'framers' Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 6:40 PM Subject: Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy files FM 10.0 (all patched and current)/Win 7, 64 -bit I have a book with 10 chapters and some appendices. Many of the chapters are graphic-laden, but all graphics are imported by reference. None are copied. Over the last few months when working on this book, I have noticed that paging through the opened chapters is taking an increased amount of time and that the files are very slow to refresh with the appropriate graphics displayed. I have tried the CTRL + L trick as well as the tried and true Page Up/Page Down trick to get the pages to refresh faster and that doesn't seem to help at all. It's really slowing me down to try to move through the chapters this way. If I need to get somewhere fast, I use the CTRL/G function to go to a specific page and then hope I am w/in one or two pages of where I want to be. This issue just seems to have progressed and gotten worse and worse over time, and I haven't added any more plugins/changed the setup, etc. I was just wondering if anyone else has seen this issue/encountered this over time with FM10. TIA, TVB -- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as sgmlindy at tds.net. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/sgmlindy%40tds.net Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130401/43b421cb/attachment.html>
FM11 - Delay with F8 and F9 applying formats
Not really...I press F9 and the menu pops up almost immediately From: "Martinek, Carla" To: "framers at lists.frameusers.com" Date: 04/01/2013 11:00 AM Subject:FM11 - Delay with F8 and F9 applying formats Sent by:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com Has anyone else noticed a delay when using F8/F9 for apply formats in FM11? We set up the shortcuts for styles years ago so we only had to 1-3 keys for applying them. It seems to me in FM11 with the format list popping up, there's a 1/2 second or longer delay when trying to apply styles. For example, we use the key combo F8>b4>ENTER to apply one of our bullet styles. BUT.. in FM11, I've been ending up with our 1_Heading1 style (since its first in line of style names) because the system is playing catch up. It's registering F8, but then has to display the list, so "b4" is missed and it just registers the ENTER, applying the first style in the list. -Carla - ** This E-mail is confidential. It may also be legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you may not copy, forward, disclose or use any part of it. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and all copies from your system and notify the sender immediately by return E-mail. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be timely, secure, error or virus-free. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions. ** SAVE PAPER - THINK BEFORE YOU PRINT!
Inside scoop on FrameMaker documentation development
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TCS version control support
I'm starting to migrate my source from CVS to Subversion, which made me realize that despite being thrown together in Adobe's Technical Communication Suite, there's no overlap between the integrated version control. FrameMaker supports SharePoint and Documentum, RoboHelp supports Subversion and MS Team Foundation Server. No big deal, just kind of lame.
Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract for FrameMaker?
I believe the Publish command comes with TCS, but when I played with it the workflow seemed wrong. The simple workflow where you just create a RoboHelp project and link to (rather than import) FrameMaker source is not documented very well, if at all. I created a cheat sheet for my own future reference: http://lauriston.com/fm10_link_to_rh9.zip The instructions are in the FrameMaker project in the /fm directory, and also in the PDF generated from that project, also in that directory. On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Martinek, Carla wrote: > File > Publish. It may only be active if you have the TCS4 suite installed. > I'm no expert on this by any means... this is just a couple days of playing > around with the trial version and seeing what happens. > > Shocked me at how simple it was to publish from unstructured Frame. Yes, it > starts using their default templates. You'll definitely spend a significant > amount of time setting up style sheets, etc. (But probably less than you > would setting up EDDs, etc. for structured Frame the old way.)
Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract for FrameMaker?
Why pay anything to upgrade FrameMaker? Adobe hasn't added any features that I'd pay for since FM8 added Unicode support. I never do anything new with it so I never need support. What requirements do you have that FM9's not meeting? On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Tori Muir wrote: > Question: MacCap's site lists upgrades as 'starting at $499' -- we'd love to > find a more cost-effective alternative to FrameMaker.
FM11 - Delay with F8 and F9 applying formats
Hi Carla, Yes, there's a delay the first time you use Smart Insert in a doc, and if you type too rapidly, there's usually an error in which tag is selected. I've also seen where the correct tag is visible (perhaps at the bottom of the list of available tags, but a different tag is actually selected. -Matt Matt R. Sullivan co-author Publishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker 11 P: 714.960.6840 | C: 714.585.2335 | matt at mattrsullivan.com @mattrsullivan LinkedIn facebook mattrsullivan.com On Apr 1, 2013, at 8:06 AM, john.x.posada at us.hsbc.com wrote: > Not really...I press F9 and the menu pops up almost immediately > > > > From: "Martinek, Carla" > > > To: "framers at lists.frameusers.com" lists.frameusers.com> > > > Date: 04/01/2013 11:00 AM > > > Subject:FM11 - Delay with F8 and F9 applying formats > > > Sent by:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com > > > > > > > > Has anyone else noticed a delay when using F8/F9 for apply formats in FM11? > > We set up the shortcuts for styles years ago so we only had to 1-3 keys for > applying them. It seems to me in FM11 with the format list popping up, > there's a 1/2 second or longer delay when trying to apply styles. > > For example, we use the key combo F8>b4>ENTER to apply one of our bullet > styles. BUT.. in FM11, I've been ending up with our 1_Heading1 style (since > its first in line of style names) because the system is playing catch up. > It's registering F8, but then has to display the list, so "b4" is missed > and it just registers the ENTER, applying the first style in the list. > > -Carla > > > > > > - > ** > This E-mail is confidential. It may also be legally privileged. If > you are not the addressee you may not copy, forward, disclose or > use any part of it. If you have received this message in error, > please delete it and all copies from your system and notify the > sender immediately by return E-mail. > > Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be timely, secure, > error or virus-free. The sender does not accept liability for any > errors or omissions. > ** > SAVE PAPER - THINK BEFORE YOU PRINT! > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as matt at mattrsullivan.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/matt%40mattrsullivan.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130401/e5528eb3/attachment.html> -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: twitter.png Type: image/png Size: 1331 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130401/e5528eb3/attachment.png> -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: linkedin.png Type: image/png Size: 1380 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130401/e5528eb3/attachment-0001.png> -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: facebook.png Type: image/png Size: 1576 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130401/e5528eb3/attachment-0002.png> -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: blog.png Type: image/png Size: 1222 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130401/e5528eb3/attachment-0003.png>
Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract for FrameMaker?
We had a client that wanted line numbers in a document, a new feature in v11. We would not have upgraded otherwise. It was literally a 'if Frame can't number the lines, we put this back into Word' situation -- for a 400 page specification document. I cannot imagine the pain of trying to wrangle something that large and complex in Word! Sadly, having spent the flippin' $600 to upgrade, they were not happy with how Frame does the line numbers (they wanted contiguous numbers thru the entire 400-page book, whereas Frame restarts in every chapter and at every 1000th line). So we ended up having to throw the problem over to Rick Quatro, who came up with an excellent scripted solution at a fraction of the upgrade cost. Which is quite possibly why I'm so peevish about the upgrade price:we spent $600/employee for nothing we could use. Tori Muir tmuir at spot-on-creative.com On 4/1/13 12:11 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote: > Why pay anything to upgrade FrameMaker? Adobe hasn't added any > features that I'd pay for since FM8 added Unicode support. I never do > anything new with it so I never need support. > > What requirements do you have that FM9's not meeting? > > On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Tori Muir > wrote: >> Question: MacCap's site lists upgrades as 'starting at $499' -- we'd love to >> find a more cost-effective alternative to FrameMaker. > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as tmuir at spot-on-creative.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/tmuir%40spot-on-creative.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract for FrameMaker?
Hi, Tori, Your observation of "top dollar for minimal improvement" sounds right to me, unfortunately! I also only use Unstructured FrameMaker at this time, btw. Here is what I have spent on upgrading FrameMaker in the recent past few years (I did _not_ bother to include the upgrades _prior_ to version 8.0): $289 for FrameMaker version 8. $304 for FrameMaker version 9. $393 for FrameMaker version 10. $436 for 2 year update plan (included the 2 year update cost for Acrobat Pro too ... at around $126, as I recall). Would I say that it has been worth it? Not recently ... particularly since I think that versions 10 and 11 should have been released as bug fixes for version 9, as far as I am concerned, and should _not_ have been charged for. With my luck, FrameMaker 12 will be released _after_ my current plan expires. :( You may ask why I was wanting to sign up for the Update Plan again? Well, I was hoping it would be at a lower cost (and make it palatable) than the [expected] $399 for a version 12 upgrade. But, at these prices, I can no longer justify using FrameMaker for my documentation needs. The removal of this Update Plan mostly just crystallized my decision, I guess. Now, I will probably just spend some money for a purchase of Mif2Go to transfer my documents out of FrameMaker. So, yes! Adobe has just lost a long-time FrameMaker customer. Time to move on, I guess ... after 25 years. :) (And, FWIW, if I cannot find an update plan for Acrobat Pro on their web site, then that will also be dropped when that Update Plan expires ... there are plenty of "way good-enough" PDF generation solutions out there now, available for far less cost than Acrobat Pro.) Z -Original Message- From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tori Muir Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 12:02 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract for FrameMaker? Question: MacCap's site lists upgrades as 'starting at $499' -- we'd love to find a more cost-effective alternative to FrameMaker. The v9 > v11 $600 upgrade was a real kick in the pants to start seriously evaluating the cost of continuing to absorb FM's high upgrade fees vs the cost of switching to a different program. We use unstructured Frame, so most of the features added in recent versions of the program have been of no use to us, thus we're paying top dollar for minimal improvement. But $499 seems even higher than Frame's one-version upgrades? Or is this only a better deal financially if replacing Frame + RoboHelp? Tori Muir tmuir at spot-on-creative.com | 650.430.8674 www.spot-on-creative.com On 4/1/13 11:22 AM, Martinek, Carla wrote: > Syed - > > I've been using Frame since 1991 (Frame 2.0.) > > We've been evaluating MadCap Flare and were ready to switch, but when we > looked at FM11 and the new multi-HTML output that appears to be as easy as > Flare, it made us stop and take another look. We don't know which way we're > going yet.. back into evaluation mode. > > That said, MadCap being a smaller company is, in general, much more > responsive in regards to feature requests. Much like Frame Technologies (and > DataLogics) were in the early days with Frame. Their Platinum support plan is > worth its cost when you are first using it, and Flare imports Framemaker > files directly. However, my recent talk with an Adobe sales mgr letting them > know we were *seriously* evaluating a competitor seems to have gotten me > better response regarding some of the issues I've been having - more so than > I've seen in years. > > Cost-wise, it may be worth it to you to look at the Adobe cloud-based > subscription model. That is supposed to include the latest versions whenever > released, but I haven't evaluated the overall cost on a yearly basis yet. > > -Carla > > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com > [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem > Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) > Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 1:02 PM > To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net); Kapil Verma; Robert > Lauriston; framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract > for FrameMaker? > > Hi, Kapil. > > Okay, I just got off the phone with somebody "in the FrameMaker team". Her > statement to me was that the Update Plan for FrameMaker is indeed either > dead, or essentially not available anymore to anybody who has less than > 10,000 points in the Adobe systems. > > The bottom line: all users with few licenses are essentially shut out. > > So, it seems that I did *not* get wrong information from the Adobe sales rep > I spoke to before! > > For me, this means that FrameMaker 11 is the _last_ version I will ever use > (after having been on the FrameMaker wagon since 1988). > > Because the version
Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy files
Sorry all. Here are the answers to several on and offlist questions: Printed output is not required. The PDFs produced will be viewed online only. The graphics are PNGs, all imported and all stored locally. Everything (files and graphics) are stored on my hard drive. All are imported in multiples that allow for printing standard printing considerations (100, 150, 200, or 300 dpi as per comments from Richard Combs). Brand new custom system - 16 GB RAM and 8 processors. Thanks! TVB From: Richard Doll [mailto:sgmli...@tds.net] Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 5:20 PM To: Tammy Van Boening; 'framers' Subject: Re: Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy files Tammy, What type of graphic(s) are involved??? .eps, .tif, .???, or .pfs note - if printed output is needed . . . colors in CMYK will be required and FM-10 will not mess with them, even in the Windows environment. and you will probably want 300dpi for best results and (in my case. . . of 3k catalog pp/yr - each averaging 3.25 images/p) - .tif processes the quickest. i do not know the physical difference between .eps and .tif, but, a 4.3k .eps file = the print quality of the same graphic when it is a .tif at 1.25k. size must have something to do with amount of processing involved. changing to .tifs has saved me sooo much time . . . is now a pleasure to see the progress-bar actually hurry across the screen. if you need a script to do this conversion . . . talk with Rick Quatro - Original Message - From: Tammy Van Boening <mailto:tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com> To: 'framers' <mailto:framers at lists.frameusers.com> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 6:40 PM Subject: Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy files FM 10.0 (all patched and current)/Win 7, 64 -bit I have a book with 10 chapters and some appendices. Many of the chapters are graphic-laden, but all graphics are imported by reference. None are copied. Over the last few months when working on this book, I have noticed that paging through the opened chapters is taking an increased amount of time and that the files are very slow to refresh with the appropriate graphics displayed. I have tried the CTRL + L trick as well as the tried and true Page Up/Page Down trick to get the pages to refresh faster and that doesn't seem to help at all. It's really slowing me down to try to move through the chapters this way. If I need to get somewhere fast, I use the CTRL/G function to go to a specific page and then hope I am w/in one or two pages of where I want to be. This issue just seems to have progressed and gotten worse and worse over time, and I haven't added any more plugins/changed the setup, etc. I was just wondering if anyone else has seen this issue/encountered this over time with FM10. TIA, TVB _ ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as sgmlindy at tds.net. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/sgmlindy%40tds.net Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130401/edb620de/attachment.html>
Does FM 11 crash with change text edits on?
Framers, I think I asked this a while ago, but can't for the life of me find any answers in emails I saved or by searching. I'm using FM 10, and it has consistently crashed when I'm using track edits, and I try to save a book. Can anyone tell me definitively if this still happens in FM 11? I hate to install the upgrade (I have the upgrade already) and get all my plug-ins working, only to find out I've not solved the problem. Thanks! ~ Linda G. Gallagher STC Fellow TechCom Plus, LLC lindag at techcomplus dot com www.techcomplus.com <http://www.techcomplus.com/> 303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144 Tutorials, "show me" demos, user guides, help, FrameMaker and WebWorks ePublisher templates -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130401/e6ebf889/attachment.html>
Where on Adobe is the info/link to renew my maintenance contract for FrameMaker?
Why do you feel a need to stop using FrameMaker just because you don't want to send Adobe any more money? I own a number of old Adobe apps that still work fine. I use Photoshop 5 and Acrobat 8 all the time. I still have FrameMaker 6 and Illustrator 7, though haven't had reason to install them on my most recent PC. On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) wrote: > But, at these prices, I can no longer justify using FrameMaker for my > documentation needs. The removal of this Update Plan mostly just crystallized > my decision, I guess. Now, I will probably just spend some money for a > purchase of Mif2Go to transfer my documents out of FrameMaker.
Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy files
FM 11.0 / Win 7, 32-bit / Intel i3 cpu Similar problem in book with 36 chapters. Significant improvement in response time attained by upgrading RAM from 4GB to 8GB. Though there is still room for improvement. ajb Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Tammy Van Boening < tammyvb at spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote: > ** > > FM 10.0 (all patched and current)/Win 7, 64 -bit > > I have a book with 10 chapters and some appendices. Many of the chapters > are graphic-laden, but all graphics are imported by reference. None are > copied. Over the last few months when working on this book, I have noticed > that > paging through the opened chapters is taking an increased amount of time > and that the files are very slow to refresh with the appropriate graphics > displayed. I have tried the CTRL + L trick as well as the tried and true > Page Up/Page Down trick to get the pages to refresh faster and that > doesn't seem to help at all. It's really slowing me down to try to move > through the chapters this way. If I need to get somewhere fast, I use the > CTRL/G function to go to a specific page and then hope I am w/in one or > two pages of where I want to be. > > This issue just seems to have progressed and gotten worse and worse over > time, and I haven't added any more plugins/changed the setup, etc. > > I was just wondering if anyone else has seen this issue/encountered this > over time with FM10. > > TIA, > > TVB > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as 7ixthus at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/7ixthus%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20130401/70b20d50/attachment.html>
Very slow paging in FM 10 in graphic-heavy files
Odd that performance has degraded over time. You might try defragmenting the hard drive, though with modern hardware that really shouldn't cause much trouble.
FM11 - Delay with F8 and F9 applying formats
Has anyone else noticed a delay when using F8/F9 for apply formats in FM11? We set up the shortcuts for styles years ago so we only had to 1-3 keys for applying them. It seems to me in FM11 with the format list popping up, there's a 1/2 second or longer delay when trying to apply styles. For example, we use the key combo F8>b4>ENTER to apply one of our bullet styles. BUT.. in FM11, I've been ending up with our 1_Heading1 style (since its first in line of style names) because the system is playing catch up. It's registering F8, but then has to display the list, so "b4" is missed and it just registers the ENTER, applying the first style in the list. -Carla - CONFIDENTIAL- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential, and may also be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not review, use, copy, or distribute this message. If you receive this email in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply email and then delete this email.
