Re: Clipboard formats priorities

2007-03-29 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson

Then you need to move the TEXT so that it is the first option. I would
move FILE to last.

Bodvar

On 3/22/07, David Shaked (Wernick) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I want to change the default Edit  Paste format to Text. Per the
instructions that appeared on the list recently, I edited the maker.ini
file. I changed

ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF, TEXT

to

ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, TEXT, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF

and restarted FM. The revision seems to have no effect. I tried revising
both the user maker.ini and the master maker.ini. What am I doing wrong?


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Clipboard formats priorities

2007-03-29 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
Then you need to move the TEXT so that it is the first option. I would
move FILE to last.

Bodvar

On 3/22/07, David Shaked (Wernick)  wrote:
> I want to change the default Edit > Paste format to Text. Per the
> instructions that appeared on the list recently, I edited the maker.ini
> file. I changed
>
> ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF, TEXT
>
> to
>
> ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, TEXT, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF
>
> and restarted FM. The revision seems to have no effect. I tried revising
> both the user maker.ini and the master maker.ini. What am I doing wrong?
>



RE: Clipboard formats priorities

2007-03-23 Thread Ridder, Fred
But there *are* a couple of free Windows utilities you can use
to strip formatting from copied content under any circumstance,
including intra-FrameMaker copy and paste. At the moment I'm 
using a tool called PureText by Steve P. Miller, but there are
several other choices, too.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ

  

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of David Shaked (Wernick)
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 7:25 PM
To: Framers
Subject: RE: Clipboard formats priorities

Never mind - I searched the archives some more and found that Fred
Ridder
answered the question on March 2.

 Notice that the maker.ini item starts with the word clipboard,
 which refers to the Windows clipboard. FrameMaker only uses
 the Windows clipboard when pasting content that was copied
 in another application. FrameMaker-to-FrameMaker copy/pasting
 uses an internal mechanism that does not go through the
 Windows clipboard. Internal copy/pasting always comes with
 the formatting intact, which I actually find annoying about
 half the time (for examle, when I'm making a new heading
 from a phrase I copied from the text).

 My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
 Fred Ridder
 Intel
 Parsipany, NJ 


David Shaked (Wernick)

AlmondWeb Ltd.
http://www.almondweb.com
Technical Documentation * Web Development * Word and WebWorks
Consultants

 

-Original Message-
From: David Shaked (Wernick) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 20:17
To: Framers (framers@lists.frameusers.com)
Subject: Clipboard formats priorities

I want to change the default Edit  Paste format to Text. Per the
instructions that appeared on the list recently, I edited the maker.ini
file. I changed

ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF,
TEXT

to

ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, TEXT, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF,
RTF

and restarted FM. The revision seems to have no effect. I tried revising
both the user maker.ini and the master maker.ini. What am I doing wrong?

Failing this, is there another way to change the default paste behavior,
so
when I paste text from one part of a document to another, the text will
adopt the formatting of the target location? Edit  Paste Special  Text
works fine, but it is inconvenient when performing multiple pastes.

I'm using FM 7.2 on Windows XP.

David Shaked (Wernick)

AlmondWeb Ltd.
http://www.almondweb.com
Technical Documentation * Web Development * Word and WebWorks
Consultants
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RE: Clipboard formats priorities

2007-03-23 Thread David Shaked (Wernick)
Thanks for the information, Fred.

I would like to revise my original question. My primary need is not to paste
text. It is to paste variables, as follows:

1. Insert a variable in a particular location. The variable contains the
product name or other branding information.

2. Copy the variable.

3. Use find/change by pasting to insert the variable in hundreds of other
locations. In all cases, the variable should assume the formatting of the
target location.

Is there a way to do it? (Currently, we plan to use FrameScript. We can save
effort if there is a out-of-the-box approach.)

David Shaked (Wernick)

AlmondWeb Ltd.
http://www.almondweb.com
Technical Documentation * Web Development * Word and WebWorks Consultants
 



-Original Message-
From: Ridder, Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 14:43
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Framers
Subject: RE: Clipboard formats priorities

But there *are* a couple of free Windows utilities you can use
to strip formatting from copied content under any circumstance,
including intra-FrameMaker copy and paste. At the moment I'm 
using a tool called PureText by Steve P. Miller, but there are
several other choices, too.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ

  

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RE: Clipboard formats priorities

2007-03-23 Thread Combs, Richard
David Shaked (Wernick) wrote: 
 
 I would like to revise my original question. My primary need 
 is not to paste text. It is to paste variables, as follows:
 
 1. Insert a variable in a particular location. The variable 
 contains the product name or other branding information.
 
 2. Copy the variable.
 
 3. Use find/change by pasting to insert the variable in 
 hundreds of other locations. In all cases, the variable 
 should assume the formatting of the target location.

As you've discovered, when you copy a variable, you're copying
_that_specific_instance_ of the variable, including the formatting it
acquired from its context. 

You need the EZVars plugin from Electropubs
(http://www.electropubs.com/). It solves your specific problem by
letting you search for a text string and replace it with a variable --
not a copied instance, but a newly created variable, which assumes the
correct font, etc., for that location. 

EZVars make working with variables much easier in general. It's only
$15. I highly recommend it. 

HTH!
Richard


--
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Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-777-0436
--




 
 
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Clipboard formats priorities

2007-03-23 Thread David Shaked (Wernick)
Never mind - I searched the archives some more and found that Fred Ridder
answered the question on March 2.

> Notice that the maker.ini item starts with the word "clipboard",
> which refers to the Windows clipboard. FrameMaker only uses
> the Windows clipboard when pasting content that was copied
> in another application. FrameMaker-to-FrameMaker copy/pasting
> uses an internal mechanism that does not go through the
> Windows clipboard. Internal copy/pasting always comes with
> the formatting intact, which I actually find annoying about
> half the time (for examle, when I'm making a new heading
> from a phrase I copied from the text).

> My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
> Fred Ridder
> Intel
> Parsipany, NJ 


David Shaked (Wernick)

AlmondWeb Ltd.
http://www.almondweb.com
Technical Documentation * Web Development * Word and WebWorks Consultants



-Original Message-
From: David Shaked (Wernick) [mailto:da...@almondweb.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 20:17
To: Framers (framers at lists.frameusers.com)
Subject: Clipboard formats priorities

I want to change the default Edit > Paste format to Text. Per the
instructions that appeared on the list recently, I edited the maker.ini
file. I changed

ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF, TEXT

to

ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, TEXT, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF

and restarted FM. The revision seems to have no effect. I tried revising
both the user maker.ini and the master maker.ini. What am I doing wrong?

Failing this, is there another way to change the default paste behavior, so
when I paste text from one part of a document to another, the text will
adopt the formatting of the target location? Edit > Paste Special > Text
works fine, but it is inconvenient when performing multiple pastes.

I'm using FM 7.2 on Windows XP.

David Shaked (Wernick)

AlmondWeb Ltd.
http://www.almondweb.com
Technical Documentation * Web Development * Word and WebWorks Consultants






Clipboard formats priorities

2007-03-23 Thread Ridder, Fred
But there *are* a couple of free Windows utilities you can use
to strip formatting from copied content under any circumstance,
including intra-FrameMaker copy and paste. At the moment I'm 
using a tool called PureText by Steve P. Miller, but there are
several other choices, too.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of David Shaked (Wernick)
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 7:25 PM
To: Framers
Subject: RE: Clipboard formats priorities

Never mind - I searched the archives some more and found that Fred
Ridder
answered the question on March 2.

> Notice that the maker.ini item starts with the word "clipboard",
> which refers to the Windows clipboard. FrameMaker only uses
> the Windows clipboard when pasting content that was copied
> in another application. FrameMaker-to-FrameMaker copy/pasting
> uses an internal mechanism that does not go through the
> Windows clipboard. Internal copy/pasting always comes with
> the formatting intact, which I actually find annoying about
> half the time (for examle, when I'm making a new heading
> from a phrase I copied from the text).

> My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
> Fred Ridder
> Intel
> Parsipany, NJ 


David Shaked (Wernick)

AlmondWeb Ltd.
http://www.almondweb.com
Technical Documentation * Web Development * Word and WebWorks
Consultants



-Original Message-
From: David Shaked (Wernick) [mailto:da...@almondweb.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 20:17
To: Framers (framers at lists.frameusers.com)
Subject: Clipboard formats priorities

I want to change the default Edit > Paste format to Text. Per the
instructions that appeared on the list recently, I edited the maker.ini
file. I changed

ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF,
TEXT

to

ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, TEXT, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF,
RTF

and restarted FM. The revision seems to have no effect. I tried revising
both the user maker.ini and the master maker.ini. What am I doing wrong?

Failing this, is there another way to change the default paste behavior,
so
when I paste text from one part of a document to another, the text will
adopt the formatting of the target location? Edit > Paste Special > Text
works fine, but it is inconvenient when performing multiple pastes.

I'm using FM 7.2 on Windows XP.

David Shaked (Wernick)

AlmondWeb Ltd.
http://www.almondweb.com
Technical Documentation * Web Development * Word and WebWorks
Consultants



Clipboard formats priorities

2007-03-23 Thread David Shaked (Wernick)
Thanks for the information, Fred.

I would like to revise my original question. My primary need is not to paste
text. It is to paste variables, as follows:

1. Insert a variable in a particular location. The variable contains the
product name or other branding information.

2. Copy the variable.

3. Use find/change by pasting to insert the variable in hundreds of other
locations. In all cases, the variable should assume the formatting of the
target location.

Is there a way to do it? (Currently, we plan to use FrameScript. We can save
effort if there is a out-of-the-box approach.)

David Shaked (Wernick)

AlmondWeb Ltd.
http://www.almondweb.com
Technical Documentation * Web Development * Word and WebWorks Consultants




-Original Message-
From: Ridder, Fred [mailto:fred.rid...@intel.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 14:43
To: david at almondweb.com; Framers
Subject: RE: Clipboard formats priorities

But there *are* a couple of free Windows utilities you can use
to strip formatting from copied content under any circumstance,
including intra-FrameMaker copy and paste. At the moment I'm 
using a tool called PureText by Steve P. Miller, but there are
several other choices, too.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Intel
Parsippany, NJ






Clipboard formats priorities

2007-03-23 Thread Combs, Richard
David Shaked (Wernick) wrote: 

> I would like to revise my original question. My primary need 
> is not to paste text. It is to paste variables, as follows:
> 
> 1. Insert a variable in a particular location. The variable 
> contains the product name or other branding information.
> 
> 2. Copy the variable.
> 
> 3. Use find/change by pasting to insert the variable in 
> hundreds of other locations. In all cases, the variable 
> should assume the formatting of the target location.

As you've discovered, when you copy a variable, you're copying
_that_specific_instance_ of the variable, including the formatting it
acquired from its context. 

You need the EZVars plugin from Electropubs
(http://www.electropubs.com/). It solves your specific problem by
letting you search for a text string and replace it with a variable --
not a copied instance, but a newly created variable, which assumes the
correct font, etc., for that location. 

EZVars make working with variables much easier in general. It's only
$15. I highly recommend it. 

HTH!
Richard


--
Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-777-0436
--









Clipboard formats priorities

2007-03-22 Thread David Shaked (Wernick)
I want to change the default Edit  Paste format to Text. Per the
instructions that appeared on the list recently, I edited the maker.ini
file. I changed

ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF, TEXT

to

ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, TEXT, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF

and restarted FM. The revision seems to have no effect. I tried revising
both the user maker.ini and the master maker.ini. What am I doing wrong?

Failing this, is there another way to change the default paste behavior, so
when I paste text from one part of a document to another, the text will
adopt the formatting of the target location? Edit  Paste Special  Text
works fine, but it is inconvenient when performing multiple pastes.

I'm using FM 7.2 on Windows XP.

David Shaked (Wernick)

AlmondWeb Ltd.
http://www.almondweb.com
Technical Documentation * Web Development * Word and WebWorks Consultants
 


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RE: Clipboard formats priorities

2007-03-22 Thread David Shaked (Wernick)
Never mind - I searched the archives some more and found that Fred Ridder
answered the question on March 2.

 Notice that the maker.ini item starts with the word clipboard,
 which refers to the Windows clipboard. FrameMaker only uses
 the Windows clipboard when pasting content that was copied
 in another application. FrameMaker-to-FrameMaker copy/pasting
 uses an internal mechanism that does not go through the
 Windows clipboard. Internal copy/pasting always comes with
 the formatting intact, which I actually find annoying about
 half the time (for examle, when I'm making a new heading
 from a phrase I copied from the text).

 My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
 Fred Ridder
 Intel
 Parsipany, NJ 


David Shaked (Wernick)

AlmondWeb Ltd.
http://www.almondweb.com
Technical Documentation * Web Development * Word and WebWorks Consultants

 

-Original Message-
From: David Shaked (Wernick) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 20:17
To: Framers (framers@lists.frameusers.com)
Subject: Clipboard formats priorities

I want to change the default Edit  Paste format to Text. Per the
instructions that appeared on the list recently, I edited the maker.ini
file. I changed

ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF, TEXT

to

ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, TEXT, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF

and restarted FM. The revision seems to have no effect. I tried revising
both the user maker.ini and the master maker.ini. What am I doing wrong?

Failing this, is there another way to change the default paste behavior, so
when I paste text from one part of a document to another, the text will
adopt the formatting of the target location? Edit  Paste Special  Text
works fine, but it is inconvenient when performing multiple pastes.

I'm using FM 7.2 on Windows XP.

David Shaked (Wernick)

AlmondWeb Ltd.
http://www.almondweb.com
Technical Documentation * Web Development * Word and WebWorks Consultants
 


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Clipboard formats priorities

2007-03-22 Thread David Shaked (Wernick)
I want to change the default Edit > Paste format to Text. Per the
instructions that appeared on the list recently, I edited the maker.ini
file. I changed

ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF, TEXT

to

ClipboardFormatsPriorities=FILE, TEXT, OLE 2, EMF, META, DIB, BMP, MIF, RTF

and restarted FM. The revision seems to have no effect. I tried revising
both the user maker.ini and the master maker.ini. What am I doing wrong?

Failing this, is there another way to change the default paste behavior, so
when I paste text from one part of a document to another, the text will
adopt the formatting of the target location? Edit > Paste Special > Text
works fine, but it is inconvenient when performing multiple pastes.

I'm using FM 7.2 on Windows XP.

David Shaked (Wernick)

AlmondWeb Ltd.
http://www.almondweb.com
Technical Documentation * Web Development * Word and WebWorks Consultants