Re: Frame 7.1 to 8 upgrade -- benefits?

[Writer]

> I think my first question would be if
> FM 8 isn't offered for sale anywhere
> because it's not a supported release, how you'd upgrade...

That thought crossed my mind as well.

I like FM9. I admit that it took me a while to adjust to the change in the 
interface, but I'm used to it now.

If you plan to use DITA, I definitely say upgrade to 9; it handles DITA better 
than 8 does.

Nadine
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Re: Pagination problem

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I assume that the pagination is set to double-sided (ie, left/right). If the 
preface has several individual FM documents in it, my guess is that each 
document is set to start on the right page, and the text of the troublesome 
document ends on a right page. Therefore, FM adds a blank left page so the next 
document can start on a right page.

Nadine

--- On Wed, 4/14/10, Tim J. Slager  wrote:

> From: Tim J. Slager 
> Subject: Pagination problem
> To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" 
> Date: Wednesday, April 14, 2010, 10:20 AM
> FM 7.2, Windows XP
> 
> I have a preface with a number of FM documents in it. The
> first document should have two pages but insists on having
> three. When I delete the third page, save the file, and then
> open it again, the third page is back. This messes up my
> page numbering for the rest of the preface.
> 
> I've tried deleting the page from the Special menu, but it
> doesn't stay. I have tried various settings in Format >
> Page Layout > Pagination, but when I open it again the
> Before Saving & Printing setting reverts to "Make Page
> Count Odd."
> 
> I've wasted too much time trying to figure this out. Any
> ideas?
> 
> Thanks. tims
> 
> Tim Slager | ISD Tech Pubs | 616.494.1373
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Re: Graphic Elements in Frame 9 Template

[Writer]

Pete, on your master pages, are the graphics in an anchored frame? If so, can 
you pull them out of the anchored frame, and then delete the anchored frame? I 
don't think the graphics will be referenced anymore, but it might resolve your 
issue to some degree.

Nadine

--- On Wed, 4/14/10, Pete Roebber  wrote:

> From: Pete Roebber 
> Subject: Graphic Elements in Frame 9 Template
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Date: Wednesday, April 14, 2010, 2:29 PM
> I am attempting to implement my
> company's new design for manuals in a 
> Frame template and am running into a problem. The new
> design calls for a 
> graphical element running across the bottom of every page.
> Another 
> graphical element appears on every chapter title page. A
> third graphical 
> element appears at the top of every left-hand page and a
> fourth graphical 
> element appears at the top of every right-hand page. So
> every page has at 
> least two graphical elements, not counting any graphics
> that might appear 
> in the text.
> 
> I have imported the graphical elements by reference into
> the master page 
> for each page type. The graphical elements are Adobe
> Illustrator graphics. 
> 
> 
> Although the pages look like they are supposed to, it takes
> ~6x as long to 
> print a manual to PDF using this template and the PDF file
> size is ~3x 
> larger than it was using the old template that had only one
> small 
> graphical element on each chapter title page. Is there a
> better way to 
> implement this design, or do I have to reconcile myself to
> >1 hour print 
> times and mach larger PDFs?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Pete
> FrameMaker 9.0 p250
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Re: Table alignment crossed with a side head

[Writer]

Don't anchor your table to the paragraph or heading. Create a paratag 
specifically for tables, and then attach your table to that.

Nadine

--- On Fri, 4/16/10, Lea Rush  wrote:

> From: Lea Rush 
> Subject: Table alignment crossed with a side head
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Date: Friday, April 16, 2010, 1:51 PM
> Hi all,
> 
>  
> 
> FM 8.0p277 (I’m reasonably sure that my Windows edition
> doesn’t matter on
> this one.)
> 
>  
> 
> I put hints, notes and cautions in a 1x1 table with a
> border in our software
> manual. I also have side headers for Topics. In this case,
> I have a longish
> topic and a very short paragraph following it to which a
> Hint table is
> attached. The top of the Hint table is aligned to the
> bottom of the topic,
> not the bottom of the following paragraph. That creates a
> large white space
> between the paragraph and table which I’d really like to
> eliminate.
> 
>  
> 
> I’ve looked at alignment settings until I’m blue in the
> face. Help?
> 
>  
> 
> TIA,
> 
> Lea
> 
>  
> 
> 
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Re: Online help generator using FM8

[Writer]

Nithin:

We use ePublisher by WebWorks. We're very happy with it and the support that we 
get from WebWorks. In addition, the people there are involved with the Yahoo 
user group (http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/wwp-users/messages). You can get 
a trial version at http://www.webworks.com/Products/ePublisher/Free_Trial/.

Nadine

--- On Thu, 4/22/10, Stalwarts  wrote:

> From: Stalwarts 
> Subject: Online help generator using FM8
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 12:57 AM
> Hi -
> Can you list me the popular publishing tools for Online
> help generation
> using Framemaker 8?
> 
> - Nithin
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RE: Online help generator using FM8

[Writer]

Ed, conceptually, do you have two sources of content in that scenario?

Nadine

--- On Fri, 4/23/10, Ed  wrote:

> From: Ed 
> Subject: RE: Online help generator using FM8
> To: dr_go...@pobox.com
> Cc: generic...@yahoo.ca, framers@lists.frameusers.com, "'Stalwarts'" 
> 
> Date: Friday, April 23, 2010, 11:30 AM
> There is an auto-import function in
> Flare that automatically reimports the
> Frame files when you tell Flare to create the output. It
> does take awhile to
> convert the Frame files to MIF and then to HTML, so it's a
> good time to get
> a beverage.
> 
> -=Ed.
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Steve Johnson [mailto:chinask...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 11:19 AM
> > To: Ed
> > Cc: generic...@yahoo.ca;
> framers@lists.frameusers.com;
> Stalwarts
> > Subject: Re: Online help generator using FM8
> > 
> > OK, so when you update the Frame file outside of
> Flare, Flare
> > automatically gets the changes or do you have to
> import the Frame file
> > again?
> 
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Re: Training materials for Structured FrameMaker 9

[Writer]

If you're anywhere near Toronto, you could try Front Runner 
(www.front-runner.com).


Nadine

On 23/04/2010 10:03 PM, Pat Christenson wrote:

Hi -

I've been looking around the web and don't see any training materials 
for Structured FrameMaker 9. Any help?


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Re: FrameMaker 9 slow and sometimes unresponsive?

[Writer]

I've noticed the same issue when I save a file. Usually, it's when I save the 
first time after opening FM9 (especially DITA XML files). Even if it is only a 
small file.

I agree that the icons on the Paragraph Designer don't map to their actual 
meaning. But I've started to become used to them

Other issues that bother me are that FM9 doesn't remember the last 
magnification value for DITA XML files, and it opens dialog boxes when I open a 
DITA XML file that I had closed previously.

Nadine

--- On Thu, 4/29/10, Studio Smalbro  wrote:

> From: Studio Smalbro 
> Subject: FrameMaker 9 slow and sometimes unresponsive?
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 3:55 PM
> Am I the only one to find that
> FrameMaker 9 is slow and sometimes unresponsive. I run Win
> 7/64bit and has vast amounts of RAM, but nevertheless it
> takes FrameMaker lots of time saving documents and sometimes
> using shortcuts just plainly stops working. I am right now
> writing some course material on FrameMaker 9 and slowly
> discovers the good and the bad. I really hate the new
> Paragraph Designer - what happend to the tabbed interface?
> Everything else has become tabbed only not what is used
> exensively. It is no longer possible to tell what part of
> the tab you're in unless you read.
> 
> regards
> Bjørn
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Re: FrameMaker 9 slow and sometimes unresponsive?

[Writer]

Ah. I did not realize it was saved in the document itself.

Thx,

Nadine

On 29/04/2010 5:33 PM, Scott Prentice wrote:

Hi Nadine...

Regarding the document magnification issue .. this is the situation 
for all XML in FrameMaker. The magnification (as well as other 
document settings) are not saved in the XML, and are reapplied from 
the template each time you open a file. You can open the template file 
and set the magnification as you like, then save it .. and that will 
be what you get.


I've got a plugin called RestoreWindows that does this for you 
automatically (although it's not been updated for FM9 yet) ..


   http://www.leximation.com/tools/info/restorewindows.php

Also, West Street Consulting has a plugin called Structure Tools that 
includes this same feature ..


   http://www.weststreetconsulting.com/WSC_StructureTools.htm

Cheers,

...scott

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www.leximation.com
+1.415.485.1892


Writer wrote:
I've noticed the same issue when I save a file. Usually, it's when I 
save the first time after opening FM9 (especially DITA XML files). 
Even if it is only a small file.


I agree that the icons on the Paragraph Designer don't map to their 
actual meaning. But I've started to become used to them


Other issues that bother me are that FM9 doesn't remember the last 
magnification value for DITA XML files, and it opens dialog boxes 
when I open a DITA XML file that I had closed previously.


Nadine

--- On Thu, 4/29/10, Studio Smalbro wrote:

From: Studio Smalbro Subject: FrameMaker 9 slow and sometimes 
unresponsive?

To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Date: Thursday, April 29, 2010, 3:55 PM
Am I the only one to find that
FrameMaker 9 is slow and sometimes unresponsive. I run Win
7/64bit and has vast amounts of RAM, but nevertheless it
takes FrameMaker lots of time saving documents and sometimes
using shortcuts just plainly stops working. I am right now
writing some course material on FrameMaker 9 and slowly
discovers the good and the bad. I really hate the new
Paragraph Designer - what happend to the tabbed interface?
Everything else has become tabbed only not what is used
exensively. It is no longer possible to tell what part of
the tab you're in unless you read.

regards
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Re: Paragraphs wrapping prematurely

[Writer]

Jill, I had a similar "problem" when I was reformatting a document in FM9. 

My monitor is 24" wide, and I had my Files > Preferences set to 24" for the 
monitor size.

It turned out that the text looked too far from the right margin only  when my 
page magnification was greater than 100. At 100, and in print, it looked fine.

Nadine

--- On Fri, 4/30/10, Joanne Tait  wrote:

> From: Joanne Tait 
> Subject: Paragraphs wrapping prematurely
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Date: Friday, April 30, 2010, 4:22 PM
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm running FM 7.2p158 on Windows XP SP2 with the FM hotfix
> installed.
> 
> I've inherited a document that was originally formated for
> print output (6.5
> X 9 inches) but now only ships as PDF. As such, I'm
> reducing the page count
> by moving to US Letter size and increasing the column sizes
> and margins in
> my master page.
> 
> My problem now is that the text in the frames wraps much
> too far from the
> right margin even though I have the right indents set to
> 0.0 for all
> paragraph formats.
> 
> If I change the alignment to Full, the text continues all
> the way across but
> simply stretches the same number of words/characters the
> whole way across.
> When I set the alignment back to Left, it returns to the
> strange wrapping
> issue.
> 
> Please reply directly to me as I'm on digest. Your
> suggestions will be most
> welcomed.
> 
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RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate Strategies)

[Writer]

Albeit, we did it with a two-person team and in small chunks, but we didn't 
have an expert for almost any of the process (except taking an introduction 
course with Bernard so we could hit the ground speed walking). 

We use FM9, which has its own DTD and EDD for DITA. We've learned on our own 
how to tweak the EDD according to our own needs. 

We converted unstructured to structured manually without automated conversion.

We use FM9 to output our PDFs, and WebWorks ePublisher to create our HTML 
output. ePub's DITA FM to HTML works wonderfully well.

We updated/reorganized/rewrote our content ourselves to fit the DITA model.

We had a coop student learn to use DITA within a few weeks while he was also 
learning to use FM.

All this while we were also creating new content.

I admit, I put in a lot of hours in last year, and we've made mistakes along 
the way, but we've learned from them. All in all, it was well worth it for us. 
The proof of the pudding (to management) was when we were able to take a 
two-volume documentation set and turn it into a seven-volume set within a 
couple of days.

It's not for everyone, I agree. But--I don't know...call it sheer bloody 
mindedness--I wanted it badly enough to do it anyway.

Nadine



--- On Fri, 4/30/10, Ed  wrote:

> From: Ed 
> Subject: RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate Strategies)
> To: "'Matt Sullivan'" , "'Bernard Aschwanden 
> (Publishing Smarter)'" , "'Alison Craig'" 
> , "'FrameMaker Forum'" 
> 
> Date: Friday, April 30, 2010, 4:48 PM
> Matt-
> 
> People are asking why it's so hard to convert. My point is
> that for many
> solo writers, it's hard to propose a conversion to
> management, and get
> buy-in, especially when there's doc to write that's
> currently being
> delivered just fine in their eyes.
> 
> To successfully convert unstructured content to a
> structure, you need:
> 
> An expert to create an EDD and/or DTD.
> An expert in XSL to create output.
> An expert to map your current styles to elements.
> An expert to help you update your content to shoe-horn into
> the new XML
> 'buckets'.
> An expert to train those who are going to be using the new
> tools. 
> 
> Now, that could be one person, or a team. However, it's
> still someone else
> that needs to be paid. 
> 
> It doesn't take a team to upgrade from Word to Frame.
> Converting to CHM has
> been mostly a one-button operation for years. If you want
> WebHelp, all you
> need is some HTML and CSS knowledge and a copy of a HAT.
> Once Pagemaker came
> around, it made publishing easier. Once Dreamweaver and
> FrontPage came
> around, it made creating web pages easier. Converting to
> structure may never
> get that easy, but it's gotta get easier than it is now.
> -=Ed.
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Matt Sullivan [mailto:m...@grafixtraining.com]
> > Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 3:42 PM
> > To: 'Ed'; 'Bernard Aschwanden (Publishing Smarter)';
> 'Alison Craig';
> > 'FrameMaker Forum'
> > Subject: RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's
> New Corporate
> Strategies)
> > 
> > The question isn't/wasn't whether or not to
> structure...that decision is
> > based on (among other things):
> > -number of authors
> > -level of reuse
> > -need to enforce content model
> > -need to pass content between one organizational group
> and another
> > 
> > If the powers that be decide there is an ROI to
> structure, then that's
> what
> > you'll do.
> > 
> > Once that decision is made, as with any software or
> format conversion,
> there
> > will be a conversion of legacy docs to the new
> format.
> > 
> > As noted by myself, Bernard, and others, the ease of
> conversion to XML or
> > DITA is mostly dependent on the quality of the legacy
> docs and their
> > consistency in applying a stylesheet.
> > 
> > If I were asked to convert docs to a format I'm not
> expert in, I'd expect
> a
> > major headache. So should someone without XML, DITA,
> or DTD experience if
> > they want to do this by themselves.
> > 
> >  However, relatively speaking, the pain of XML
> and DITA conversion is not
> > appreciably greater than any other conversion, if you
> are going to retain
> > full use of references, toc's, linking, graphics,
> etc.
> > 
> > As you can see, from various posts, there are folks
> that can help. It's
> not
> > our place to tell you (without analysis)whether or not
> to structure but we
> > can effeciently and economically help with that
> transition.
> > 
> > 
> > -Matt
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: Text not flowing entire width of text box

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Do you have a very wide monitor? If so, check out this thread: 
http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/2010-April/020062.html

Nadine

--- On Wed, 5/12/10, George, Brenda (CAI)  wrote:

> From: George, Brenda (CAI) 
> Subject: Text not flowing entire width of text box
> To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" 
> Date: Wednesday, May 12, 2010, 10:19 AM
> I am working on a FM template that
> has master pages with single column text boxes that are 45
> picas wide.
> 
> I am finding that my tagged text is not flowing to the
> entire length of the text box. It is flowing in at a maximum
> line width of 42 picas, then bumping to the next line. I do
> not have indents set in this tag. When I attempt to manually
> type additional text in the text box, it is bumping to the
> next line when it reaches 42 picas in length.
> 
> What setting do I need to adjust so that the text will flow
> to the 45 pica width of the text box?
> 
> Brenda George
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Re: How to kill annoying Adobe Update

[Writer]

Edit > Preferences > Updater > Do not automatically download or install 
updates?


Nadine

On 17/05/2010 8:03 PM, Hedley Finger wrote:
Adobe Update thinks it's in the middle of downloading an updated app. 
Every time I boot my Windows computer, it appears, and informs that it 
is completing a download -- except there is no filename or app shown 
in the pending downloads pane.
How can I kill this off permanently? Presumably, downloading Adobe 
Reader latest version and installing it would reinstall Adobe Updater.


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Re: Adobe Community Forums and Obtuse website

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> Now was that so hard? ;-)

Maybe not hard, but somewhat obscure. Personally, I think the link label should 
be Support, not Help. Especially since it links to the Support page.

Scott, I get your frustration. Not necessarily with the Adobe site because I 
don't really use it, but certainly with other vendor sites.

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Re: OT: Unexpected event

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Oh, Rick! That must have come as a stunning revelation. I'm glad you didn't 
ignore it and that you're getting it sorted out. I have no doubt that you will 
be as right as rain in no time.

I look forward to your return when you're ready. I'm sure we all do. Hugs to 
you.

The very best thoughts to you and your family.

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- Original Message -
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> Subject: OT: Unexpected event
> 
> Hi Framers, 
> 
> I hesitate to put this on the list, but I have been around the FrameMaker
> community for a long time, and this is the only contact I have with some of
> you. Also, in light of Bruce Foster's sudden disappearance last year, I
> thought it would be appropriate to post this.
> 
> Hi Everyone,
> 
> As many of you know, I was supposed to be on vacation this week, cycling
> across New York State with 17 other guys. During my last few training rides,
> I experienced some discomfort in my chest. It was a concern because I am in
> pretty good shape with almost 800 miles on the bike so far this summer. I
> had a stress test on Friday, and the results showed an 80% chance of a
> blockage in one of my cardiac arteries. Monday I went into the hospital for
> an angiogram, with the anticipation of having the blockage opened and a
> stent put in. However, the test showed a couple of areas of blockage, one
> being in an area that can't be opened with a stent. So on Wednesday around
> 12:45 pm, I am going to have open heart surgery with at least a double
> bypass. I will be in the hospital for 3-5 days and hopefully experience a
> quick recovery at home. I should be back to work late next week.
> 
> Those of you who know me well understand that I have a deep abiding
> relationship with Jesus Christ. I received Him as my Savior on April 6, 1984
> when I was twenty-five years old. Because He has forgiven me of my sins, I
> know that when I die, I will be with Him in heaven. I am still a sinner and
> don't deserve heaven, but because of His death on the cross and subsequent
> resurrection, He gives eternal life to those who receive Him by faith.
> 
> That said, I am still fairly young (53), and have some young kids left to
> raise. So, if you are given to prayer, please pray for Sherry and I this
> Wednesday. Finally, thank you all for being a part of my life. The great
> people that I work with is an important part of making my work so
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> 
> Sincerely,
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Re: How to prepare Frame files for English to Korean translation

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> Let me know if I can help answer any other questions. I'm happy to help.
> 
> Bill


Well, Bill, for starters you could write a Managing Translation for Dummies 
book...

=D

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Re: How to prepare Frame files for English to Korean translation

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Thanks, Stuart. I'll check that out.

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- Original Message -
> From: Stuart Rogers 
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Cc: 
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 12:26:05 PM
> Subject: Re: How to prepare Frame files for English to Korean translation
> 
> On 21/06/2012 12:18 PM, Writer wrote:
> 
>>  Well, Bill, for starters you could write a Managing Translation for Dummies 
> book...
>> 
>>  =D
>> 
>>  Nadine
>> 
> 
> Not as comprehensive as a Dummies book, but very helpful nonetheless:
> http://www.llts.com/LearningCenter/guidebook.php
> 
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Re: How to prepare Frame files for English to Korean translation

[Writer]

Awesome! You should have it done in no time, then. *grin*

Nadine



- Original Message -
> From: Bill Swallow 
> To: Writer 
> Cc: Kelly Lawetz ; Yvonne Mills ; 
> "framers@lists.frameusers.com" 
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 1:02:31 PM
> Subject: Re: How to prepare Frame files for English to Korean translation
> 
> I just might do that! In my copious spare time, of course. ;-)
> 
> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Writer  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>>  Let me know if I can help answer any other questions. I'm happy to 
> help.
>>> 
>>>  Bill
>> 
>> 
>>  Well, Bill, for starters you could write a Managing Translation for Dummies 
> book...
>> 
>>  =D
>> 
>>  Nadine
>> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Single sourcing from Frame and a wiki ... or something ...

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>You may want to look at the Confluence wiki. I know that there is a DITA > 
>Confluence tool (Dita2Wiki?) and WebWorks ePublisher will also convert FM to 
>Confluence. However, I don’t know if it’s possible to go the other way, or to 
>round-trip content between FM DITA and Confluence.  According to Sarah 
>Maddox’s book on wikis, Confluence will import and export DocBook XML so that 
>might be another option. 

>I’m sure others will comment on this.
>Regards,
>Keith


I was also going to suggest WebWorks ePublisher. It can ingest FM, Word, and 
DITA files (if you have all of the appropriate adapters). In fact, you can 
combine all three input formats in the same project.

Can the developers author in Word? Or can you export Word files from the wiki?

Nadine

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Re: Text reflows when converting to PDF

[Writer]

Does this help? 
http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/2010-May/020148.html

Nadine




>
> From: Karen Robbins 
>To: framers@lists.frameusers.com 
>Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 7:30:26 PM
>Subject: Text reflows when converting to PDF
> 
>Hi Framers,
>
>In one file (so far) of a Frame 9 book, a page has text wrapping around a 
>photo. I create a .ps file using Adobe PDF printer. In the PDF generated from 
>that .ps file through Distiller 9, the text rebreaks so that words are 
>improperly broken and reflow (not to mention they look terrible). Since my 
>source file looks correct, I don't know what to change. Problem should be the 
>fonts themselves--current OpenType fonts from Adobe. My settings, fonts, even 
>image in question are the same as in previous iterations of this project, 
>which converted without this problem.
>
>What can I do to fix it?
>
>Thanks,
>Karen
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Re: comparing variables in .fm files in FM10

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Create a third, blank FM file with the correct variables set. Import the 
variables from that template into each of the two other FM files so that they 
are using the same variables.

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 Robert Lauriston  7/07/12 09:06 >>>
>I inherited this book so I don't know what kind of messes are lurking
>in the source, so I want to check that all the variables in two .fm
>files are the same before I modify one to update the other.
>
>The obvious thing seemed to be to bring up the Variables pod and
>switch between the two files to see if there are any differences, but
>(1) the pod can't be maximized, (2) at its maximum size it displays
>only about 2/3 of the variables, and (3) when I switch from one file
>to the other the pod scrolls back up to the top. (What idiot designed
>this?)
>
>Suggestions? I can use the Select: All Open Docs option, but the
>differences aren't as immediately apparent as switching between
>windows, so I'm afraid I'll miss something.
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Re: Hello (Frame 11 documentation)

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> At http://helpx.adobe.com/framemaker.html, you can also get an ePub version 
> and 

> other documents.

Cool!

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Re: Template for four-page brochure?

[Writer]

I did something similar with a combination of FM and Adobe Acrobat 8. I 
don't have the current version of Acrobat, so I'm not sure if the 
settings are the same, but it will give you an idea.

In FM, create your content on 8.5 x 11 pages. The pagination will look linear.

Create a PDF of the FM document. The pagination will still look linear.

In Acrobat, print the PDF to a different booklet PDF by doing the following:

1. Go to File > Print, and then set Page
Scaling to Booklet Printing.

2. Click
OK and give the new PDF a name when you are prompted to do so.

3. If
necessary, open the new PDF.

4. If
necessary, rotate all of the pages in the PDF clockwise 90 degrees.

You might have to play around it the settings a bit to get what you want, but 
that's the general idea.

Nadine



> In 20+ years of using FrameMaker, I've never had to do this before.
> 
> I need to create a template for a four-page Quick Start Card that will print 
> on 
> a piece of 11 x 17 paper that will be folded once to produce four pages.
> 
> I don't know how this is done. Do I:
> 
> --Create four regular 8.5 x 11" pages and select print options so pages 4 
> and 1 will print on one side of the 11 x 17" page, and sides 2 and 3 will 
> print on the other side?
> 
> --Create a template with an 11 x 17" page size with the four text flows 
> already established? (Is it possible Adobe provides such a template? I 
> looked, 
> but did not find one in the Templates folder.)
> 
> Any tips gratefully received.
> 
> --Nancy
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Re: Big batch of old messages arrived this morning

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Hi, Richard:

I'm experiencing the same thing, too. You are not alone.

Nadine



- Original Message -
> From: "Combs, Richard" 
> To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" 
> Cc: 
> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 11:34:18 AM
> Subject: Big batch of old messages arrived this morning
> 
>T his morning, my FrameUsers folder contained 50 "new" messages, some 
> dating back to Aug. 1. I'm wondering if others have had the same experience, 
> or if it's something done to me by the mail system here. 
> 
> Richard G. Combs
> Senior Technical Writer
> Polycom, Inc.
> richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
> 303-223-5111
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Re: Spurious unresolved cross references

[Writer]

Keith, are you using conditional text? Way back, I used to get that message for 
xrefs that were "hidden" in conditional text.

Nadine


 
>I have a FrameMaker 10 book that is reporting several unresolved cross 
>references when I update the book. I’ve tried deleting them and replacing them 
>several times and I still get the errors. However, the links work perfectly 
>when I use WebWorks ePublisher to create a web version of book.
> 
>Any suggestions as to what might be going on?
> 
>Thanks
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Re: Big batch of old messages arrived this morning

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Greg, I've told you a million times, don't exaggerate.

;-)

N


> Nothing like following the delivery of 50 old messages with 50 new messages 
> confirming that we received 50 old messages.
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Re: FM10 paragraph / character tag display disappearing

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> BTW, it looks like about 50 or 60 messages were

> hung up from the list for the last three weeks,
> including many of Robert's posts like this one; 
> anybody know why?

Jeremy, see this thread: 
http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/2012-August/026449.html

Nadine

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Re: Tips/tools/resources for converting unstructured to structured

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I haven't watched them, but Tom Aldous has e-seminars about conversion here: 
http://tmaldous.com/2012/03/05/7-part-e-seminar-series-unstructured-to-xml-framemaker-10-instructional-series/

Nadine


> I'm about to start a unstructured-to-structuredconversion project in either 
> Frame 9 or 10. Does anyone have any tips, tools or online resources that 
> would 
> be helpful for such a project?
> 
> Thanks for any suggestions.
> 
> Pat Christenson
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Re: Tips/tools/resources for converting unstructured to structured

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If you can, consider Yves' suggestion about using Mif2Go. If I recall 
correctly, it's easier/faster than using conversion tables in FM.

Nadine


> Hi all -
> 
> Thanks for the suggestions. Luckily, I don't have to build the template, EDD 
> and DTD. I just have to convert some unstructured files to the structure so 
> I'll be diving into conversion tables and see how it goes.
> 
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Re: Tips/tools/resources for converting unstructured to structured

[Writer]

Mif2Go user documentation can be found in various formats here: 
http://www.omsys.com/dcl/download.htm#Mif2Go_UG

At a place where I used to work, I assigned a junior writer the task of 
using Mif2Go to convert some of our smaller documents to DITA. She 
figured it out fairly quickly.

For some reason I thought you were converting your source files to DITA,
 but in another post you said you're not. I think Mif2Go can convert FM 
to non-DITA XML, too. You might want to check the trial version first.

Cheers,

Nadine

> Can you point me to some documentation on this? I'm all in favor of easier 
> and faster.
> 
> Pat
> 
> 
> On Aug 24, 2012, at 2:28 PM, Writer wrote:
> 
>>  If you can, consider Yves' suggestion about using Mif2Go. If I recall 
> correctly, it's easier/faster than using conversion tables in FM.
>> 
>>  Nadine
>> 
>> 
>>>  Hi all -
>>> 
>>>  Thanks for the suggestions. Luckily, I don't have to build the 
> template, EDD 
>>>  and DTD. I just have to convert some unstructured files to the 
> structure so 
>>>  I'll be diving into conversion tables and see how it goes.
>>> 
>>>  Pat
> 
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Re: FrameMaker 11 Review

[Writer]

>Good review Alan. It’s the first one I’ve seen that seems like the reviewer 
>actually used the program instead of just repeated a list of new features from 
>Adobe’s Reviewer’s Guide.


Yes, that was refreshing.


>I am disappointed that they couldn’t clean up some of the longstanding issues 
>with the interface.


Amen. But I've given up hope that that will ever happen.

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Re: Missing Fonts message

[Writer]

It's from 2007, but this thread might help: 
http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/2007-April/007323.html

Nadine


>Missing Fonts message
>I am sorry - fat-fingered the message. It's FM 10, not 7. (I am a little 
>flustered this morning as one of our email accounts has been hacked and I was 
>dealing w/ that issue also.)
> 
>Thanks,
> 
>TVB
> 
>From:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
>[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tammy Van Boening
>Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 8:34 AM
>To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
>Subject: Missing Fonts message
> 
>FM 7, Win 7, 64 bit.  For File Preferences > General, I have Remember Missing 
>Font Names Selected. I have inherited a book that if I try to update w/out 
>opening all of files, I get the message "Could not open FileName.fm because it 
>uses unavailable fonts" for every closed, non-generated file in the book; 
>however, whenever I open any of these files, I do NOT get the message about 
>Filename. fm  using unavailable fonts and stating what font will be used 
>instead. How do I figure out what fonts are supposedly missing from these 
>files and get this cleaned up so I can avoid this message if I don't open 
>every file in the book when updating the book?
>TIA,
>TVB
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Re: Graphics & transparency

[Writer]

I have these notes that I made for a project I worked on a while back:

1. Import the image into FrameMaker. It will look like a grey box in 
FrameMaker, so it will be tricky to adjust.

2. Select the image and set "Fill" to "None" using the tools palette.

I think I might have found that answer here: 
http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/2010-March/019668.html

Nadine






> Hi all -
> 
> Does FrameMaker 10 support transparency? A client sent me .eps files with 
> transparent background but it displays as white when I import it. Any 
> solutions?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Pat Christenson
> 
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Re: Graphics & transparency

[Writer]

Well, my original answer was a half-baked anyway. I missed some other steps. 
This is where I actually got my answer originally: 
http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/2009-June/017102.html. That 
worked for whatever I was doing at the time.

*sigh* Maybe I should be quiet now.


Anyway, in the end, many tech writers make transparent graphic work. ;-)

Nadine



- Original Message -
> From: "Combs, Richard" 
> To: Writer ; Pat Christenson ; 
> "framers@lists.frameusers.com" 
> Cc: 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2012 3:51:58 PM
> Subject: RE: Graphics & transparency
> 
> Writer wrote: 
> 
>>  2. Select the image and set "Fill" to "None" using the 
> tools palette.
> 
> It's not the image that you need to select, it's the anchored frame or 
> graphics frame into which you imported the image. This can be a little tricky 
> sometimes. Open the Graphics palette and make sure you have View > Borders 
> turned on. Click the mouse on the dotted-line border of the frame, not on the 
> image inside it. Then in the Graphics palette, click Set Fill Pattern and in 
> the 
> Fill dialog, click None. 
> 
> HTH! 
> 
> Richard G. Combs
> Senior Technical Writer
> Polycom, Inc.
> richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
> 303-223-5111
> --
> rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
> 303-903-6372
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Re: Frame vs Word - the decision

[Writer]

My deepest condolences.

Nadine




- Original Message -
> From: "la...@lavadome.net" 
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Cc: 
> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 3:48:55 AM
> Subject: Frame vs Word - the decision
> 
> Hi all
> 
> You may remember a while back I asked for help regarding arguments I could 
> use 
> to persuade my company to use Framemaker for its docs.
> 
> I'm sorry to report I have lost the argument.
> 
> "Even though the quality of Word may have minor disadvantages, the cost and 
> consequence of shifting to Framemaker is not justified. Unless there is a 
> fantastically good reason I am missing(?) then the choice is obvious. Please 
> stick to Word henceforth and get no more production done in Framemaker."
> 
> Yours, despondently.
> 
> Laura
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Re: Getting started with Context-Sensitive Help

[Writer]

I've never used RH to process DITA files, so I can't imagine what the process 
is. Do you have to regenerate your FM files each time you update your content? 
That sounds very slow and tedious.

>You could go through a similar process using WebWorks ePublisher, as well as 
>other Help publishing tools. Typically, you'd embed the marker into the 
>topics, and publish through the standard process for that tool.

Scott mentioned WebWorks ePublisher, which processes your DITA files directly. 
This is the HAT that I use to create output from DITA.

If your developers have given you a header file with topic aliases, you specify 
each topic alias using the othermeta element to define the marker (in 
ePublisher) with the value of the topic ID for that topic. 
(http://www.webworks.com/Documentation/Reverb/index.html#page/03.Preparing%2520and%2520Publishing%2520Content/Preparing%2520DITA%2520Files.3.15.htm).

Robert mentioned two ways to handle CSH:

>There are two basic approaches: (1) the developers maintain the map file and 
>give it to you to import into RoboHelp, or (2) you generate the map file with 
>RoboHelp and give it to them. I've always done (1).

There is another way, which is the developer embeds the HTML file name in the 
code. In WebWorks ePublisher, if you want to keep the file name constant (in 
case the actual file name of the DITA file changes or becomes obsolete), you 
specify file names in the othermeta element to define the marker (in 
ePublisher) with the name for the file. For example:



I'm not sure if any of that translates well to what you must do for RoboHelp.

Nadine
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Re: Question about saving to a .mif

[Writer]

Tammy, do you not have the option to save as FM 9 files instead of MIF, or is 
that the customer's requirement?

Nadine


>
> From: Ann Zdunczyk 
>To: 'Tammy Van Boening' ; 
>framers@lists.frameusers.com 
>Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 12:22:59 PM
>Subject: RE: Question about saving to a .mif
> 
>
>Question about saving to a .mif
>Hi Tammy,
> 
>Not sure why there are only these two options but if you same to a mif 7 file 
>and the person opens in Frame 9 you will lose the FM 10 features.
> 
>Z
> 
>**
>Ann Zdunczyk
>President, JOAT, SWAG
>a2z Publishing, Inc.
>Language Layout,  Translation Consulting, & Template Creation
>Office: (336) 922-1845
>Home: (336) 922-1271
>Fax:   (336) 922-4980
>Cell:  (336)456-4493
>http://www.a2z-pub.com
>**
> 
>From:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
>[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tammy Van Boening
>Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 12:18 PM
>To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
>Subject: Question about saving to a .mif
> 
>All,
>I have a book with six files that was created in FM 10.0.2.419. I must send 
>this book and all its files to a user who has FM 9.0. When using the Save As 
>option to save the book and its files in a .mif format so that the user can 
>open them, I have two .mif options. One is MIF 10 and one is MIF 7. Why would 
>FM 10 offer these two options and not MIF 9 or MIF 8? Also, will I lose 
>features in the files if I save to MIF 7 instead of MIF 10? 
>Thanks,
>TVB
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Re: Frame vs Word - the decision

[Writer]

> I for one think that my time is more valuable when I am writing, rather than 

> reformatting or performing work arounds that Word requires. 
> 
> But then most of management under values what other people do.

*sigh*

So true...so true.

Laura, make sure you multiply the time it will take to get documentation done 
by 3.

Nadine

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Re: More bad news on TCS4: no longer includes Photoshop

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>As for editing images, even though I have CS 5, most of the time I use Paint 
>Shop Pro (≈$100). Obviously, I have simpler photographic needs than many other 
>people.

I prefer Paint Shop Pro, too. Photoshop is usually overkill for me. Maybe it's 
because we're Canadian, Allison. =D

Nadine

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Re: save as... FM 8 Mif

[Writer]

Mario, see Jeremy's explanation here: 
http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/2012-September/026750.html

Nadine



>Hi to all.
>A customer of mine ask me to save a lot of FM 8 e FM 10 files, in MIF 8 format.
>Because this is optimized for translation workflow.
>I have FM 10 and I could save in MIF 10 or MIF 7 directly.
>
>
>I read about the possibility to save directly in FM8 or MIF8, using scripting.
>Could someone help me? It's about, perhaps, a free script?
>
>
>Thanks, Mario
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Re: Bookmarking when printing to PDF

[Writer]

You set them up in the on the Bookmarks tab of the PDF Setup dialog box.

AFAIK, there are two ways to access this dialog box.

. File > Print Book > PDF Setup (make sure to select Generate Acrobat Data).
. Select the book file in the document manager, and go to Format > Document > 
PDF Setup > Bookmarks tab.

Nadine


>Hi Framers,
> 
>So, I know how to create bookmarks when I SAVE to a PDF, but saving to PDF is 
>unreliable for me, as I know it is for most of you.
>So, how can I create bookmarks for my PDF if I’m PRINTING to PDF?
> 
>I’ve got FM 9 fully patched.
> 
>Thanks for any help.
>
>Bethany

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Re: Languages and FrameMaker languages

[Writer]

Rick, do you mean what string of characters in the Language list is equal to 
those languages?

Looking at Google Translate and Wikipedia, my guess would be:


Slovenian (Slovene) = slovenščina (FWIW, this is not the same as slovenčina, 
which is Slovak)

Latvian/Lettish = latviešu

Serbian = српски <-- I don't see it on the FM list

Croatian = Hrvatski

Macedonian = македонски <-- I don't see it on the FM list



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>
> From: Rick Quatro 
>To: 'Framers'  
>Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 10:58:20 AM
>Subject: Languages and FrameMaker languages
> 
>Hello Framers,
>
>I am trying to find the corresponding FrameMaker "Language" (in the Font
>properties) for each of the languages below. I am using FrameMaker 10. Any
>help would be appreciated. Thank you very much.
>
>Slovenian
>Latvian
>Serbian
>Croatian
>Macedonian
>
>
>Rick Quatro
>Carmen Publishing Inc.
>585-283-5045
>r...@frameexpert.com
>
>
>
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Re: FM openObjectId markers > RoboHelp

[Writer]

Doesn't RH have a mini-TOC option?

Nadine


>Because of the way RH converts TOC and IX into other structures I don't expect 
>you'll have luck with the generated lists and ix's turning into files with 
>live links…I expect it has to do with the fundamental difference in generating 
>the documents themselves.
>
>You have a great idea for additional functionality, though, and I suggest you 
>submit that as a request to www.adobe.com/go/wish. I'll be doing this, and 
>asking others to do so via social media.
>
>Of course, if anyone can get this to work, please let us all know!!
>
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Re: HTML mapping pages BLOAT

[Writer]

Can you delete all the HTML mapping references from the reference page?

Nadine


> Dear Framers:
> I need some help. My rather old files from FM6 and onwards are behaving
> awkwardly when read into FM 11 (patched).
> The problem is that I have far too many HTML mapping reference pages. I have
> learnt that the max number of ref pages is 100, but the HTML bloat is
> pushing it over the top.
> I am working in unstructured framemaker, not using HTML AT ALL.
> I have tried fixing the template file but this only helps a little.
> Anyone else have this problem?
> I am hoping this is my BIG problem with these files. Results in massive
> sluggishness, elephantiasis I call it.
> Rob
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Re: Webworks ePublisher price

[Writer]

Carol, I'm not sure what the price is, but it's definitely worth checking into.

WebWorks will release version 2012.3 on 27 November and it is the first version 
that supports FM 11, so your timing is very good.

If you have any other questions about ePublisher and want to chat about it off 
forum, I'd be delighted to answer anything I can. I'm not a vendor, but I'm a 
very happy customer.

Nadine

> 
> Sigh. I thought I'd have a look at ePublisher to see how it compares 
> price-wise to RoboHelp. Maybe I'm missing something on their Web site, but 
> it appears that the only way to find out the price is to give them my contact 
> information first via a form. I object to that practice on principal. Does 
> anyone know the current cost for ePublisher and what the cost of the new 
> version 
> that works with Frame 11 might be?
> 
> Carol
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Re: ANN: List of FrameMaker Utilities and Plugins, v4.0, now available

[Writer]

That's awesome, Lin. I don't see the link to the PDF on the mif2go site. Do you 
have to log in to see it?

Thanks,

Nadine



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> From: Lin Sims 
> To: Frame Users 
> Cc: 
> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 8:23:07 PM
> Subject: ANN: List of FrameMaker Utilities and Plugins, v4.0, now available
> 
> For those interested, the list update has been completed.
> 
> Jeremy Griffith is kindly hosting it on his site, and you can find it here:
> 
> http://mif2go.com/framemaker-resources
> 
> If you can't get to the web site, contact me off-list and I'll email
> you directly.
> 
> Don't forget Scott Prentice's Tool Search, which will also give you
> information on FrameScripts.
> 
> http://leximation.com/toolsearch/
> 
> There are two lists this time through; one sorted by the name of the
> utility/plugin and one sorted by the supplier. I've also added a table
> for plugins that are, as far as I can determine, no longer publicly
> available.
> 
> Corrections, additions, deletions, etc., are welcome.
> 
> -- 
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Re: [Bulk] Re: ANN: List of FrameMaker Utilities and Plugins, v4.0, now available

[Writer]

Oh, yes, that's better. =)

I've only glanced at it so far, but this is great. Well done!

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> Cc: 
> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 9:09:39 PM
> Subject: [Bulk] Re: ANN: List of FrameMaker Utilities and Plugins, v4.0, now 
> available
> 
> On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 17:40:27 -0800 (PST), Writer 
>>  wrote:
> 
>> That's awesome, Lin. I don't see the link to the PDF 
>> on the mif2go site. Do you have to log in to see it?
> 
> Soory about that!  I had set it to "public", but the 
> directory where Drupal put the PDFs wasn't.  Fixed now.
> Thanks for the heads-up!
> 
> -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
>       http://mif2go.com/
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Re: FM 9 Blinking linked images

[Writer]

Ça va, Stephen:

Even though you say you've worked for several years this way, I'm strongly 
inclined to agree with Jeremy. From what I've heard over the years, users who 
try to use FM over a network have run into trouble at some point.

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> 
> Cc: 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 12:07:33 PM
> Subject: Re: FM 9 Blinking linked images
> 
> Frame has never, ever, worked right with network 
> drives.  This really should be in the KB, but
> I guess they don't want such features known, at
> least before purchase.  :-(
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Re: Replaced images not saved to XML?

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> 6. Select the image inside the anchored frame, and delete it.

> 7. Select the anchored frame and do File > Import > File. Select 
> image2.png and shrinkwrap the frame.

Roger, I can have a look at it later with FM10, but what happens if you delete 
the image element and reinsert and image element, rather than use standard FM 
functionality?

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Re: FrameMaker -> online help solution

[Writer]

I highly recommend getting the newest version of WebWorks ePublisher. You would 
have to rebuild your stationery.

Are you not breaking pages at headings? Do you have some other approach to page 
breaks?

Nadine

>I have a bunch of FrameMaker 7 files that
currently go through WebWorks 2003 to get turned into online help. 
>
>One of the sticking points of moving
them to the current version of FrameMaker is getting an online help solution
that will work with special marker tags that we've added to tell WebWorks
2003 where to break pages. 
>
>We aren't sure whether to go with RoboHelp,
WebWorks ePublisher, or something else altogether.  Any opinions?
 With an already overloaded group that's about to get smaller, we
need a quick and (relatively) easy solution, preferably one that doesn't
require us to do anything special to the FM files beyond moving them to
the current version. 
>
>Thanks, 
>
>Lynn Gold 
>Information Developer 
>IBM, Santa Clara, CA
>
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Re: greenfield and new structure

[Writer]

Congrats on the new job, John. Being the master of your own documentation is 
pretty awesome, eh?

>I would love to find some EDDs for basic DITA-compliant user manuals, and I'd 
>love some war stories about getting Structured, tales of heroism and tragedy, 
>etc. Please feel free to reply to me directly with comments not suitable for 
>the broader community.
>This is going to be fun! 

I'm not clear on this. Are you saying that you have DITA files that were 
authored somewhere other than in FM, but you WILL be authoring DITA in FM in 
the future? If that's the case, EDDs are built into FM. Or did I misunderstand 
your question?

If you are authoring DITA in FM, you might want to browse this user 
group: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/framemaker-dita/

Learning to author in DITA is not very hard. However, creating output can be 
very challenging, and learning to architect your process from beginning to end 
BEFORE you get started is very important. Production challenges can mean that 
you have to have make certain authoring decision/compromises. Sometimes those 
decisions can only be learned through experience, so you might want to check 
out lists about your processing tool, if possible. Forgetting about formatting 
while you author is also challenging at first, but important. Marking up 
content based on its semantic value, rather than for formatting, can take a 
while to get used to.

There's so much more that can be said. You're welcome to contact me offline if 
you have any questions. I don't use TCS4, so I can't answer RH questions.

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Re: greenfield and new structure

[Writer]

>T hanks Nadine!

> Yes, the existing product documentation was authored in oxygen in India. I 
> don't have good access to those resources, but I have the DITA files. I have 
> to make them look presentable, and then improve the quality of the writing, 
> fill 
> in gaps, etc. 
> So I have no legacy FM content, only DITA content. I want to use FM's 
> publishing capabilities. I am well familiar with unstructured FM10, but 
> unfamiliar with structured FM11. 
> john


I'm pretty sure what I'm about to say is accurate. Someone correct me if I'm 
wrong...

You should be able to open those files in FM (make sure you're in structure 
mode). You can edit the EDD files and template files to look as close to your 
print documentation as you can so that when you generate FM books/files, the 
formatting is almost exactly as you need it.

Have you tried just opening the DITA files in FM? If so, did you encounter any 
problems? 

When I used FM9, I only edited EDD and template files a little bit. I relied on 
my processors to format output completely. In the case of production PDFs, that 
meant generating FM books/files, and then applying an FM template to the 
generate files. Part of the reason for doing it this way was so we could use 
the generated FM files in different ways (branded/custom documentation, quick 
guides as opposed to full books, etc). BTW, we used WebWorks ePublisher to 
create draft PDFs and online help systems. ePublisher ingests ditamaps 
directly; you don't have to create FM files first.

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Re: What is a "PI marker" or "programming instruction marker"

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> [By way of some background: We're in an odd spot where we're between

> budgets AND about to shift to 'native' DITA using oXygen; so they're
> trying hard not to invest further in Frame-specific products. But this
> requirement for Help (in am month!) is gonna mean one last tool goes in
> that box.]


Can't you output to CHM using oXygen?

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Re: What is a "PI marker" or "programming instruction marker"

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>> Can't you output to CHM using oXygen?

> 
> Sure, in the same sense that you can create 
> a large Web site using only Notepad.  ;-)

So...um...like...are you saying that I'm doin' it rong?

> I'd say if someone has a looming deadline,
> that is **not** the time to start learning
> how to customize the OT...  LOL!

I was just inquiring. I'm using oXygen to learn XML and XSLT stuff, but I've 
not explored it's DITA capabilities to any great degree. I thought CHM output 
was there, but didn't know if it was useful or not. The OP mentioned 
restricting spending. I thought if he already had access to CHM output, why not 
use that.

Oh well.

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Re: greenfield and new structure

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>But surely somehow the para tags get mapped to elements for PDF output? 

Forget about formatting while you author. Learn to separate creating content 
from formatting.

>When I publish a procedure to PDF, suppose I want the steps to have 0pt above, 
>6pt after, etc - the stuff I usually set up in the paragraph designer. How do 
>the elements get that information en route to becoming a PDF?  I want to know 
>how to set that up, too. 
>And then I want to publish the same content to HTML, with different 
>presentation. Now that I separate the presentation form the structure, I have 
>misplaced where the presentation layer went...
>


One approach (described at a very general level):


1. Create your DITA topics.

2. Create a ditamap for your book/PDF.

3. Create a ditaval file, if you need one.

4. Save your ditamap as an FM book with FM components (or however it works in 
FM11). I think you mentioned that you're using DITA FMx? That should help you 
build your FM book.

5. Go through your FM book and format the tags that are applied to paragraphs 
and characters. Set up your master pages, reference pages, TOC file, index 
file, front/backmatter etc.

6. Once you're satisfied with the results, save your formatting as a template.

7. Next time you update your DITA files and recreate your FM book, apply those 
templates to the generated FM book files.

Does that make sense?

As for generating HTML, that's going to depend on what processor you use.

This LinkedIn thread mentions several e-books about DITA (not FM). If you're 
not familiar with DITA in general, you might find something useful to give you 
a basis for using FM as a tool for authoring DITA.

http://www.linkedin.com/groupItem?view=&gid=112571&type=member&item=181151686&trk=group_search_item_list-0-b-ttl&goback=%2Egna_112571


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Re: greenfield and new structure

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John, what version of FM are you using?

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Re: TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box solution

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>Ready, shoot, aim!
>
>Scriptorium's updating their book for FM11 but they're not done yet.
>
>http://www.scriptorium.com/books/unstructured-framemaker-11/

The picture made me laugh.

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Re: Index not generating as expected

[Writer]

I have had a similar problem in the past where the first page of the index 
wouldn't format into columns, but anything past the first page would. In that 
case, this is what I did:

On the body page of the first page of the index, hold the CTRL key down and 
select the frame.

Right-click on the frame.

Choose Object Properties.

In the dialog box that appears, you should be able to turn the side head off 
and turn the columns for that page on.

Nadine

>Hello Framers,
> 
>The master page for my Index looks correct. In other words, it’s a two column 
>page with no side head. When I generate my book, the Index displays with a 1.5 
>inch side head. I copied the entire book from last year’s project, where the 
>Index still generates as I’d like (2 columns, no side head). I’ve compared the 
>master pages for the two projects and they look the same to me.
> 
>Does anyone have a suggestion please as to how I can remove the side head from 
>the Index pages for the new project?
> 
>I’m using Frame 7.2 on a Windows 7 (32 bit) machine.
> 
>Thank you in advance for your assistance.
> 
>David Millis
>Drake Software 
>
>
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Re: Madcap Flare vs Framemaker

[Writer]

Bill said:

>Well, you say you have FM experience already, and that you do only a little 
>bit of help authoring. But, you'd need the Adobe Technical Communication suite 
>to get an interconnected seat of both FM and RH for any single-sourced help 
>authoring. 

Only if you want to stick with a purely Adobe tool set. WebWorks ePublisher 
processes FM, Word, and DITA files. Mif2Go also processes FM files.

Laura didn't state what her output requirements are. That should also affect 
her decision making process.

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Re: Is FrameMaker 11 going down or is it a keeper?

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> Please let us not get sentimental about FrameMaker. I fervently hope a

> better mousetrap will soon be here. I will be very glad to be rid of 2012,
> ruined for me by TCS4 FrameMaker and its "scammy" advertorials.

Agreed, Rob. At there very least, there needs to be a contender.

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Re: Madcap Flare vs Framemaker

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>I'm a big advocate for WWeP but since they indicated they already use RH, the 
>TCS option was a best fit.

It's A fit. Not sure I'd say "best".

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Re: Finding overrides in Framemaker files

[Writer]

FM also provides the ability to search for character/paragraph/table format 
overrides in the Find/Change dialog box (that is, CTRL + F). Those options are 
at the bottom of the Find list. 

Richard, do those tools provide something extra to the FM functionality?

Nadine

>
> From: "Combs, Richard" 
>To: Tammy Van Boening ; 
>"framers@lists.frameusers.com"  
>Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 3:48:47 PM
>Subject: RE: Finding overrides in Framemaker files
> 
>Tammy Van Boening wrote:
>
>> Framemaker 10, all patched, Win 7, 64 bit.
>> I have a Framemaker book that contains 8 chapter files. I know that overrides
>> to paragraph styles in a file are marked with an asterisk in the Information
>> Bar at the bottom of the file. I am producing OLH for a client using a 15 
>> year
>> old technology (Sun JavaHelp) and I don't have an option to change that right
>> now. In the tool that I use, ePublisher, reports are generated including a
>> Styles report that specifically lists all paragraph tags that have an 
>> override
>> to them. This report, however, is not available for a Sun JavaHelp output for
>> many reasons but I still need to be able to find overrides in the Framemaker
>> source files. Is there a script that is available to do this, or is there a
>> way to use FM's functionality that I am not aware of to do this?
>
>In addition to Stuart's suggestion, I can recommend Silicon Prarie's very 
>reasonable Paragraph Tools and Character Tools plugins for this and many other 
>tasks (siliconprairiesoftware.com). 
>
>But if you're in a hurry and not afraid of removing all overrides in a file 
>without regard for the consequences, do the following: 
>
>1) Ensure that you have a file whose pgf catalog (and anything else you want 
>to "unify") has the definitions you want all the chapters to use. 
>2) In the book window, select all the chapters and select File > Import > 
>Formats. 
>3) In the dialog box, set Import from Document to the file with the correct 
>definitions and under Import and Update, select what you want to update. 
>4) Under While Updating, Remove, select Other Format/Layout Overrides and 
>click Import. 
>
>HTH!
>
>Richard G. Combs
>Senior Technical Writer
>Polycom, Inc.
>richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
>303-223-5111
>--
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Re: Finding overrides in Framemaker files

[Writer]

> Writer wrote:

> 
>>  FM also provides the ability to search for character/paragraph/table format
>>  overrides in the Find/Change dialog box (that is, CTRL + F). Those options 
> are
>>  at the bottom of the Find list.
>> 
>>  Richard, do those tools provide something extra to the FM functionality?
> 
> Although I have TCS 3 and have used FM 10 for a few tasks, my primary tool is 
> still FM 7.2. I hadn't even noticed those new options in the Find list. 
> That's nice, thanks for pointing it out. 
> 
> But the Silicon Prairie tools offer significantly more functionality and IMO 
> are 
> well worth the modest cost. Check out the brief descriptions here: 
> 
> http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/Products.html 


Okey dokey.

Thanks,

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Re: best web help add-on for FrameMaker 10?

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> I'll give WebWorks ePublisher a try.

> http://www.indoition.com/online-help-authoring-tools-survey.htm says
> it costs $795 a year, does the license actually expire?

The subscription expires, but you can still use the software. You just don't 
get the four upgrades/year or access to direct support once your subscription 
expires.

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Re: best web help add-on for FrameMaker 10?

[Writer]

I must correct myself. When you purchase a *perpetual* license, you can 
continue to use ePublisher after your subscription is done.


I recommend that you contact WebWorks' sales department so that you can discuss 
your particular needs with them.

Nadine

>>  I'll give WebWorks ePublisher a try.
> 
>>  http://www.indoition.com/online-help-authoring-tools-survey.htm says
>>  it costs $795 a year, does the license actually expire?
> 
> The subscription expires, but you can still use the software. You just don't 
> get the four upgrades/year or access to direct support once your subscription 
> expires.
> 
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Re: best web help add-on for FrameMaker 10?

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> Buying a WWP license is expensive, especially on top of the cost of upgrading 
> to 

> TechCommSuite 4. But I've lost four entire days of income trying to 
> cooperate with Adobe Tech Support, not getting anywhere, and ultimately being 
> abandoned without so much as a "sorry we can't help you we've got 
> to stop now."


IMHO, even though WebWorks ePublisher seems expensive, the time you save on 
actually being productive is so worth it. WW support is excellent, too.

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Re: best web help add-on for FrameMaker 10?

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> Flare has some advantages and I'd consider it for large projects where I 

> could start from scratch

Kieth, do you mean if you were authoring from within Flare? What are those 
advantages?

Thanks,

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Re: best web help add-on for FrameMaker 10?

[Writer]

Thanks, Keith.

Nadine


> Well, it's designed for content reuse, so sharing common content across 
> projects is easy. Since it's topic based, it's easy for more than one 
> writer to work on a project. It also has some very nice reporting and 
> tracking 
> features.  If I was working on a large project, with multiple writers, and 
> developing only for online output, I'd consider it.  (I would probably be 
> using it now, at least for some projects, if we hadn't run into a 
> showstopper issue with their WebHelp format and our application server).
> 
> I found that conversion from FM to Flare was much more time consuming than I 
> expected. That was partly due to the learning curve, but even then, setting 
> up a 
> WWeP template is much easier and faster. I also found the writing environment 
> not the easiest to work in. I wouldn't use it for anything that required PDF 
> output.
> 
> WebWorks is much more customizable. MadCap doesn't expose the internal 
> workings of the program the way - they give you very nice interfaces for 
> customization, but if it can't be done through the interface, you're out 
> of luck.
> 
> Regards
> Keith
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Re: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book?

[Writer]

You could try creating two separate templates (in FM files that are separate 
from the book and separate from each other). One template file is 8.5 x 11, and 
the other is A4. Both can contain all other attributes (paragraph styles, 
character styles, colour definitions, etc). Apply the first template when you 
want to create a PDF for the US market. Once that's complete, apply the second 
template to the book to create the PDF for the European market.

Alternatively, you could use a processor that ignores your FM settings (that 
is, you would set up all your formatting in the processor), and then generate 
two different outputs.

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>
> From: Lise Bible 
>To: Post Framers  
>Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 10:57:12 AM
>Subject: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book?
> 
>
>Fellow Framers,
>I'm mostly a lurker, but have found the wealth of knowledge shared by this 
>list's members to be quite helpful!
>
>
>I have a manual (I'm on Frame 8) in which I've used conditional text to 
>show/hide tables, text, parts lists depending on if it's for the American 
>market or European.
>This manual originated for a US-made product so it started life with 8.5x11 
>(US-letter size) pages. And it didn't even occur to me that it might need to 
>be A4-sized for the European market.
>
>
>Is there a good way to switch back and forth between A4 and 8.5x11 page sizes, 
>depending on which version of a book you want to print?
>
>
>I have the sneaking suspicion that I will have to break this into two separate 
>books, but I figured I'd ask to see if anyone had recommendations.
>
>
>
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Re: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book?

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>What if you also had to switch from US to UK spelling when you switched from 
>Letter to A4? What would be the most straightforward way to handle that?

The only thing I can think of is conditional text. But you can include your 
condition settings in the template.

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Re: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book?

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>I agree that Nadine’s suggestion of two templates is probably best if you have 
>time to work through each document every time you change to check that there 
>aren’t any unfortunate page breaks.  Sensible use of “keep with next” instead 
>of hard “top of page” settings can help of course.

Yes, definitely.

Something else you can try, but this will really depend how your document is 
formatted, is print the PDF at A4 size. Then, using Acrobat, "reprint" the A4 
PDF as 8.5 x 11. The fonts might look a bit small, but I used to do that and no 
one complained...to me.

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Re: switch between 8.5x11 and A4 sized pages within the same book?

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>I know printed copies from PDFs are almost quaint these days 

Call me a Luddite, but I don't agree. This article is a bit old, but I think it 
still holds true: 
http://www.booklistonline.com/The-Manley-Arts-The-Cockroach-Will-Manley/pid=5390998

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Re: Cost of software charged outside US borders

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Thanks for the link, Alan. I knew that people in Australia and NZ got charged 
way more for music. I forgot about the software thing. Hurray for Australia for 
being proactive about the issue. We see a similar thing here in Canada, 
especially with the price of books.

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>
> From: Alan T Litchfield 
>To: framers@lists.frameusers.com 
>Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 3:58:15 PM
>Subject: Re: Cost of software charged outside US borders
> 
>Sorry, link disappeared. Thanks Nadine.
>
>http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10867173
>
>Alan
>
>On 23/02/13 9:23 AM, Alan T Litchfield wrote:
>> I have complained on this list before about price gouging by Adobe, but
>> this article (albeit about music, refers to Adobe too) is interesting in
>> that my concerns have been noted by others.
>>
>> What is also interesting is the big players, MS, Adobe and Apple are
>> being called to account by a parliamentary inquiry in Australia for
>> price discrepancies for bits and bytes that are merely downloaded.
>>
>> I hope for more realistic charges from Adobe in the future, but well...
>>
>> Alan
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Re: Cost of software charged outside US borders

[Writer]

"I think we're constantly looking at what's the best way to deliver value to 
our customers ..."

And then for his next act, Mr. Narayen ran for Parliament.


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>
> From: Alan T Litchfield 
>To: framers@lists.frameusers.com 
>Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 7:22:10 PM
>Subject: Re: Cost of software charged outside US borders
> 
>!!!
>
>It is of benefit to customers to be gouged whilst buying "Creative 
>Cloud" and it is "phenomenal value to customers"???
>
>Methinks not, but maybe I am not of their future market.
>
>Alan
>
>On 23/02/13 12:24 PM, Helen Borrie wrote:
>> At 09:23 a.m. 23/02/2013, Alan T Litchfield wrote:
>>> I have complained on this list before about price gouging by Adobe, but 
>>> this article (albeit about music, refers to Adobe too) is interesting in 
>>> that my concerns have been noted by others.
>>
>> Actually, Shatanu Narayen gave a crazy press conference on the issue earlier 
>> in the week.  Look at 
>> http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/adobe-chief-dodges-questions-over-pricing-20130214-2eetr.html
>>  for evidence that even Adobe's CEO (despite some mind-boggling verbal 
>> diarrhoea) doesn't actually have a clue why it costs us twice as much to buy 
>> his software than it costs his customers in other countries.  He seems to be 
>> saying we're lucky because of some sort of "marketing benefit" we get from 
>> being gouged.
>>
>> Helen
>>
>>
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Re: FrameMaker -> PDF -> ePub format?

[Writer]

Hi, Steve:

I'm not sure if this is what you mean, but WebWorks ePublisher has Book ePub 
2.0 output (you can see a sample of the output here: 
http://www.webworks.com/Tour/Output_Formats/) and PDF output. You can generate 
both outputs at the same time.

Nadine


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> From: Steve Rickaby 
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Cc: 
> Sent: Friday, April 5, 2013 7:49:46 AM
> Subject: FrameMaker -> PDF -> ePub format?
> 
> I am wondering if there is any simple route from a hyperlinked PDF to 
> ePub/eBook 
> formats. I have no experience of the latter, but would like to offer a 
> FrameMaker -> ePub service in future. Any advice would be welcome.
> -- 
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Re: anyone looking for a writer?

[Writer]

Well said, Rick. I agree.

Nadine


This seems like a great place for this kind of post. You get an occasional 
posts from people offering FrameMaker jobs and those looking for FrameMaker 
jobs. It's all good. The list is fairly low-volume anyway, and you can easily 
delete any posts you consider inappropriate. Besides, if I was looking to hire 
someone, I would want to know that someone as qualified as Jess is looking for 
a job.
> 
>Rick
> 
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>585-283-5045
>r...@frameexpert.com
> 
> 
> 
>From:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
>[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Cal Callahan
>Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2013 12:42 PM
>To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
>Subject: Re: anyone looking for a writer?
> 
>Much as I wish you success, I don't believe this is an appropriate posting 
>here. The list would soon be filled by pleas from people like you and me who 
>are looking for work.
> 
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>
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Re: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

[Writer]

I was wondering when someone was going to bring this up. I share your 
sentiments/fears exactly, Steve.

Nadine


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> From: Steve Rickaby 
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Cc: 
> Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2013 12:37:59 PM
> Subject: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only
> 
> I have just heard a rumor that the CS Suite is going to available in future 
> only 
> on an SaaS basis, by subscription. TCS/FrameMaker could follow?
> 
> I do wonder whether the accountants that run large corporates like Adobe 
> understand how important their software is to the countless thousands of 
> freelances who have to scrape every last penny to buy it - but at least then 
> they own something, not vapor that goes phut as soon as you stop paying for 
> it.
> 
> For the last two decades FrameMaker, Illustrator, Acrobat and Dreamweaver 
> have 
> been the rocks underpinning what I do. I'm far less sure about the future, 
> though.
> 
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Re: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

[Writer]

I say we start a new company and create a competitor to FrameMaker! Who's with 
me? Anyone? Anyone?

*crickets chirp*

=D

Nadine


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> From: Craig Ede 
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Cc: 
> Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2013 1:24:36 PM
> Subject: FW: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only
> 
>T his is troubling, and so one message is "buy the CS software on CD/DVD
> while you still can." A number of my friends, most connected with academic
> institutions, are doing that. 
> 
> I expect Adobe is attempting to have everyone on the same page as regards
> these applications so that one set of help files defines the "current 
> state"
> of an application. This would help a lot in terms of expected outcomes when
> using the product. However, it requires a constant state of reeducation as
> new features are added and different ways of handling things are introduced.
> Not that we don't have to deal with this already, but at least we know if we
> do something in a given version, it is going to work in a way that we
> already are familiar with. 
> 
> As for extending this "the current version of the app" beyond the 
> bounds of
> the Creative Suite, I rather doubt that Adobe will do that anytime soon. If
> they have their finger on the pulse of their users they must realized that,
> for instance, in the medical device industry, all tools used to produce
> documentation must be validated. It would be impossible  (and expensive!) to
> validate a moving target as the apps were continually being improved and the
> former version made unavailable.
> 
> Craig Ede
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Steve Rickaby
> Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 11:38 AM
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only
> 
> I have just heard a rumor that the CS Suite is going to available in future
> only on an SaaS basis, by subscription. TCS/FrameMaker could follow?
> 
> I do wonder whether the accountants that run large corporates like Adobe
> understand how important their software is to the countless thousands of
> freelances who have to scrape every last penny to buy it - but at least then
> they own something, not vapor that goes phut as soon as you stop paying for
> it.
> 
> For the last two decades FrameMaker, Illustrator, Acrobat and Dreamweaver
> have been the rocks underpinning what I do. I'm far less sure about the
> future, though.
> 
> -- 
> Steve [somewhat aghast]
> 
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Re: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

[Writer]

This is why I'm uncomfortable with suites of software. Especially ones that are 
so interdependent. I don't like having all my eggs in one basket.

Nadine

PS: Z, you seem to be good with numbers. How much are we going to need to raise 
to create an FM competitor?

>Almost everyone keeps ignoring the question of CHOICE. There's no doubt you 
>can make a case for subscription but you can also make a case for getting the 
>disks or downloading the software.
>
>Of what benefit to Adobe is depriving us to choose what we want? Why is 
>mailing me disks for additional cost or providing a download bad for Adobe? 
>Clearly it isn't. There is something else going on.
>
>
Certainly Adobe will jack up the price of subscription. They might have other 
things in mind also but the point is, why make everyone adopt a model that 
doesn't benefit everyone? What's in it for Adobe? That's what I'd like to know.
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Re: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

[Writer]

At the risk of sounding all Pollyanna, perhaps what Adobe is doing is actually 
good for the tech writing community. Perhaps it WILL inspire people to create 
other choices/other competition.

At least it is prompting the conversation.

Nadine

--- On Sat, 5/11/13, Jeremy H. Griffith  wrote:

> From: Jeremy H. Griffith 
> Subject: Re: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only
> To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" 
> Received: Saturday, May 11, 2013, 8:54 PM
> On Sat, 11 May 2013 11:33:13 -0700
> (PDT), Writer 
> 
> wrote:
> 
> >I say we start a new company and create a competitor 
> >to FrameMaker! Who's with me? Anyone? Anyone?
> 
> Well... we've had one on the back burner for several 
> years now.  Basically it's an Open Source GPL project,
> so zero financing needed, with a very basic core and
> plugins independently installable for most of the
> functionality.  We called it "Omni 2.0", after the
> very first product I wrote, the first screen-oriented 
> editor ever on CP/M 1.4 on 8080 (way before WordStar).
> 
> If there really is much interest, we can set it up
> as a SourceForge project pretty easily (we have a
> couple of others on SourceForge).  We're not set on
> that name, or on much of anything else except GPL.
> 
> Greed doesn't always have to win out...  ;-)
> 
> -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
>    
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Re: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

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>“That's how capitalism is supposed to work.”

I don't mean to nitpick, but is that capitalism or free market?

*steps back out of Dave's swing range*

=D

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Re: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

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Now, Dave, that's not what Google told me when I did a 2 second search on 
"capitalism vs free market".

*figuratively checks to make sure the figurative pin is back in the figurative 
grenade, then goes back to earning money to support her smart assery*

Nadine
 

> Nadine -
> 
> Nadine, I certainly wouldn't swing the bat if you were within range.  On the 
> other hand, having served in the US Army Infantry, I'd call it 
> "bursting radius."
> 
> Well, if you'll accept an American source, please see
> 
>     http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/capitalism and
> 
>     
> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/free+market?show=0&t=1368475416 .
> 
> So, I make the answer to your question as, " . . . an economic system 
> characterized by . . . distribution of goods that are determined mainly by 
> competition in a free market."
> 
> Also, please consider the following.  It is a very-close paraphrasing of a 
> statement by a professor of accounting is his class many years ago.
> 
> The purpose of business is to make money.  The purpose of business is _not_ 
> to 
> produce a valuable good or to deliver a worthwhile service.  The purpose of 
> business is to _make_money_.
> 
> And, if you'll allow an allusion from the Bible:  "The _love_ of money 
> is the root of all evil."  (emphasis added because it is often misquoted as 
> "Money is the root of all evil."  DAS)
> 
> *Being concerned that Nadine and others might be within bursting radius, puts 
> figurative safety pin back into figurative hand grenade.*
> 
> Regards,
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Re: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

[Writer]

> I appreciate everyone's feedback, but plans to build a 

> competitive product and business plans for a competitive product may be a bit 
> premature.  ;-)


I strongly disagree. I think it's been a long time coming. I want more choices. 
I want to be able to see the text in the index dialog box.

Lack of competition does not make a healthy market.

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Re: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

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>An easy way to find out what many of those are is to look at the
>plug-ins that people are willing to pay for. 

Good point.

Nadine
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Re: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription

[Writer]

>Truth in Advertising Disclosure: I am biased. I am a reseller for a software
>application that is sold mainly by subscription (WebWorks ePublisher). But I
>purchase other software by subscription, and I prefer it.

But even WebWorks offers a perpetual license so that when you stop buying the 
subscription, you still have the software. You just don't have any upgrades 
until you resubscribe.

Nadine
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Re: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription

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> No, the WebWorks subscription expires, just like a trial version.


The subscription ends after the four upgrades are released, but if you 
purchased the perpetual license, you do not lose your ability to use the 
software even though you do not receive any more upgrades.

> It'll be another $800 (or whatever) in a year or the software will

> stop working. A perpetual license is available, but it's considerably
> more expensive.

I don't know what equals "considerably", but of COURSE it's more expensive.

Nadine
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Re: Is there a way to link from a FrameMaker file to a destination in a PDF file?

[Writer]

Hi, Duncan:

I also recommend that you ask WebWorks ePublisher questions on the wwp-users 
Yahoo Group (http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/wwp-users/). If you do, make 
sure you state what your input files are (eg, FM 10), what version of 
ePublisher you use (eg, 2012.4), and what output you create (eg, Reverb).

However, check out this article on the WebWorks site and see if that answers 
your question. 
http://www.webworks.com/Support/ePublisher/Legacy_Docs/Tech_Notes/Common/EX_ePub9_Linking_to_PDFs.shtml

Cheers,

Nadine

--- On Thu, 5/23/13, Duncan, Gary  wrote:

From: Duncan, Gary 
Subject: Is there a way to link from a FrameMaker file to a destination in a 
PDF file?
To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" 
Received: Thursday, May 23, 2013, 10:14 AM

Hi, everyone,  How can I link from a Frame file to a destination within a PDF 
file? I am able to link from Frame to a PDF using the Message Client command 
(message open file ). I tried adding the HTML syntax #, but the link becomes dead and also does not process 
through WebWorks as a successful hyperlink. Any suggestions or is this 
impossible?Thank you,  Gary Duncan | Principal Technical Writer | Kronos 
Incorporated
tel: +1 978 947 4164
Kronos | Time & Attendance • Scheduling • Absence Management • HR & Payroll • 
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Re: Access -> Frame -> pdf. Help with a (fun) project, maybe?

[Writer]

I'm surprised that you can't get your data to export to Word. According to this 
article, it should work: 
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/access-help/export-access-data-to-a-word-document-HA010341683.aspx

Alternatively, if you can get HTML out of Access, what about opening it up in 
Word? I expect you'd have to have Acrobat to manage the bookmarks.

Nadine

>
> From: Theresa de Valence 
>To: framers@lists.frameusers.com 
>Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 5:04:40 PM
>Subject: Re: Access -> Frame -> pdf. Help with a (fun) project, maybe?
> 
>
>We seem to have succeeded, er, partly.
>
>Is it possible for Frame to import a HTML document? (The import function 
>doesn't give that choice). If I drag and drop the document onto Firefox, 
>the html opens. Then I can copy and paste into Frame. Seems a bit 
>cumbersome.
>
>Thanks.
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Re: Why won't FrameMaker use the default attribute I set in the EDD?

[Writer]

Heather, you don't say what version of FM you're using, and I'm not totally 
clear what you are doing, but I'll throw this out there...

You want to change the default alignment of images, right?

Did you actually change the default setting in the EDD? If so, did you then 
import the new EDD settings into the concept.template.fm file?

Nadine

>Hello everyone,
>
>Here is my scenario:
>
>1. Create a new concept.
>2. Insert  within .  is inserted automatically 
>within  (because of EDD). **The same problem occurs if I only insert 
>.
>3. When I click in the Attributes pod, on align, the bottom says: "align 
>Type: Optional Choice Default: left". However, the actual value in the table 
>is " and the image appears center aligned.
>
>4. Save the concept.
>5. Close the concept.
>6. Re-open the concept.
>7.  now has align = center.
>Here is an excerpt from my EDD for the concept, within the element .
>Name: align     Choice     Optional 
>Choices:    left, right, center, current
>Default:    left
>
>I have tried an Optional String with a default value as well but in this case 
>the default is also ignored. It does not seem that one can set a Default for a 
>Required Attribute.
>
>This is not a show-stopper because we can manually set the attribute for each 
>image and it is saved in the .xml. However, I would like to understand how 
>this works (or doesn't) and it would also be convenient to have it default to 
>a left alignment whenever an image is added.
>
>Thanks in advance for any response!
>
>Heather
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Re: Follow up on a few items

[Writer]

Huh? Did we miss something?

*blink*

Nadine

> 
>I really had a good time last evening and I just wanted to say thank you again 
>for the thoughtful gifts. I just hope you weren't all bored to tears by the 
>Doctor Who episode, which probably gave David Tennant the least screen time of 
>any episode he did, and that I didn't oversell the episode as one of my 
>all-time favorites. My only complaint is that I feel more than a bit wasted 
>from not enough sleep this morning because I *had* to get up by 7:30 to watch 
>both the German Formula 1 Grand Prix race and today's Tour de France stage in 
>the Pyrenees; many yawns this morning. 
>
>But I wanted to follow up on a couple of things that came up in conversation.
>
>There are several brands of evaporative cooling cloth products (scarves, 
>towels, head bands, hat and helmet liners), but the two leading brands seem to 
>be Chill-Its (from a company called Ergodyne) and Frog Toggs, both of which 
>are available from Amazon. Some customer reviews for each product do have some 
>issues, but most reviewers seem to love the products (assuming that they are 
>real customers and not shills).
>
>The beef rancher I was trying to think of is Simply Grazin, who actually raise 
>certified organic pork, veal, and poultry in addition to beef 
>(http://www.simplygrazin.com/about/). The 220 acre farm they lease is right on 
>Rt. 206 and Opossum Rd. in Skillman, just south of the Montgomery Blooms 
>nursery. They used to sell their products at the farm, but a couple of years 
>ago opened a retail shop on Rt 518 in Blawenburg under the name Mallery's 
>Grazin Meats (http://www.mallerysgrazinmeats.com/). Then they opened a second 
>shop in the Knightsbridge Center in Hillsborough (that office/shop complex 
>cattycorner from the Hillsborough Municipal Center and Library at South Branch 
>Rd. and Beeckman Rd.) where they also operate Mallery's Eatery 
>(http://eatery.mallerysgrazinmeats.com/), which serves breakfast and lunch 
>daily. The news item I saw was apparently they they are now expanding to serve 
>dinner one night a month with seating by reservation only--not too
 practical for a no-advanced-planning type like me. I first became aware of 
their beef when they were serving samples at a specialty foods festival that 
McCaffery's put on under a tent in the P'ton shopping center courtyard a couple 
of years ago, which Paul and Sara also went to. I've bought their meat at 
McCaffery's a couple of times since then--good, but not really exceptional, and 
pretty pricey. Maybe their retail meat shop might be a source for cooking suet 
(or pork fat to render into fresh lard), since they get all their cuts directly 
from the south Jersey organic meat processor/butcher they work with 
(Bringhurst's in Berlin)?
>
>Regarding Roku boxes for Ellen to stream video content from the Web to the TV, 
>there are a couple of options depending on how high the HD needs to be (I'm 
>not sure whether the TV is a 720p or 1080p). If the TV is only 720p, the most 
>cost-effective model is the $50 Roku LT
>http://www.amazon.com/Roku-2450D-LT-Streaming-Player/dp/B008R7EVE4/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1373207796&sr=1-2&keywords=roku
>which is even purple instead of black. 
>Or for $10 more, you can get the Roku HD, which adds an instant replay feature 
>on the remote and but has only purple highlights on a mostly black box
>http://www.amazon.com/Roku-2500R-HD-Streaming-Player/dp/B007KEZMX4/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1373207796&sr=1-4&keywords=roku
>If the TV is a 1080p screen, the same models will provide better-than-DVD 
>quality, but to get full HD one would need to move up to the $80 Roku 2 XD
>http://www.amazon.com/Roku-XD-Streaming-Player-1080p/dp/B005CLPP8E/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1373207796&sr=1-3&keywords=roku
>If the TV doesn't have an available HDMI connector (I should have looked...) 
>only the two lower cost, 720p models are relevant because they have RCA-type 
>video and stereo audio connectors (the 2 XD has only HDMI).
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Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

[Writer]

And unless you're very clever, it's easy to paint yourself into a corner with 
an in-house system. It might be "simple" to develop something for what your 
needs are now, but you neglect to make it open-ended or scalable for whatever 
changes you need to make in the future.

And then there's portability...

Nadine

>
> From: Alan Houser 
>To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com"  
>Sent: Monday, July 8, 2013 6:50:36 PM
>Subject: Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema
> 
>
>
>I gotta generally agree with Matt. Occasionally I run into an information 
>modeling project that I can knock off in an afternoon, but that's pretty rare. 
>Remember that you will not only need to model "block" content (topics, 
>headings, paragraphs, lists, etc.), but also tables, cross-references, images, 
>etc. The latter set can be a bit tricky. Plus, oh, your metadata.
>
>With DITA or DocBook, you also get a publishing framework. Also
  usually non-trivial to create from scratch, especially if you are
  publishing to multiple output formats, using filtering, content
  re-use, etc.
>
>I'll mention with some regret that FrameMaker's DocBook support is
  pretty poor. I've never figured out why...the "typical" use cases
  for both (books, PDF) line up very well. It may be a
  chicken-and-egg issue...I suspect more people would use DocBook if
  FrameMaker provided better DocBook support.
>
>-Alan
>
>On 7/8/13 6:31 PM, Matt Sullivan wrote:
>
>A list of what you'll save using DITA or DocBook rather than creating your own 
>schema: 
>>1. Time
>>2. Money
>>
>>
>>(Hey, someone had to say it…)
>>
>>-Matt
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Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

[Writer]

Agreed. That has been my go to book since I started using DITA.

Nadine

>
>This is a really good book for getting experience in using DITA 1.2. I found 
>that the sample application that is developed was very straightforward to 
>implement in FrameMaker. It won't teach you everything you need to know about 
>DITA, but all the basics are there.
> 
>http://www.amazon.com/Introduction-DITA-Second-Edition-Architecture/dp/0977863433
> 
>An Arbortext specific version of this book also exists. (The one above is not 
>FM specific, but it really doesn't need to be.)  
> 
>Craig

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Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

[Writer]

What about directly from Comtech Services? 
http://comtech-serv.com//index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=28_3&products_id=10

Nadine


- Original Message -
> From: Alan T Litchfield 
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Cc: 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 11:31:49 PM
> Subject: Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema
> 
> Unfortunately, that book cannot be sold internationally by Amazon. :(
> 
> Alan
> 
> On 10/07/13 2:19 PM, Writer wrote:
>>  Agreed. That has been my go to book since I started using DITA.
>> 
>>  Nadine
>> 
>>> 
>>>  This is a really good book for getting experience in using DITA 1.2. I 
> found that the sample application that is developed was very straightforward 
> to 
> implement in FrameMaker. It won't teach you everything you need to know 
> about DITA, but all the basics are there.
>>> 
>>> 
> http://www.amazon.com/Introduction-DITA-Second-Edition-Architecture/dp/0977863433
>>> 
>>>  An Arbortext specific version of this book also exists. (The one above 
> is not FM specific, but it really doesn't need to be.)
>>> 
>>>  Craig
>> 
> 
> -- 
> AlphaByte
> PO Box 1941, Auckland
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Re: OT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!: Adobe 'Creative Cloud' (again)

[Writer]

And on the other side of the fence...

I find it an interesting discussion. And I prefer to have it on this list since 
I don't participate in many other lists.

Sorry, Matt, my vote is for keep it online.

Nadine

>
>Bandwidth is measured also by the number of emails one can reasonably read 
>(and respond to) in a given length of time.
>
>
>I can't be the only person who is tired of reading about reactions to the CS 
>licensing model on this FrameMaker forum…
>
>
>I don't know anything about Adobe's plans.
>
>
>Everyone's time is worth (and costs) something…the time required to 
>participate and/or read these discussions thus have a cost, so I'm asking... 
>perhaps those with a keen interest in the topic could take the discussion of 
>it offline or to a CS-oriented list until Adobe indicates this will affect 
>FrameMaker? 
>
>
>I'm happy to discuss this off-list, but as a courtesy, will be avoiding this 
>thread (even more) going forward.
>
>
>-Matt
>
>
>
>On Jul 17, 2013, at 11:49 PM, "Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)" 
> wrote:
>
>In this day and age, is Internet “bandwidth” use for text e-mails really an 
>issue? J
>> 
>>Plus, are you saying that you know/believe that FrameMaker is not going to be 
>>released as a cloud-based license model soon? Love to hear the news.
>> 
>>And, in my opinion, btw, my discussion (feel free to call it whining perhaps? 
>>:)) on license cost/models of FrameMaker is fair game for this mailing list …
>> 
>>Z
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Re: Conrefs... Shake out white, turn BLUE!

[Writer]

This is from memory, but I think that FM treats conrefs as conditional text. 
Look at the conditional text values in the template file.

Nadine

>A reference to an old TV commercial for powdered cleanser.  You shake out 
>white powder and it turns blue when it gets wet.  Conclusion?  This is the 
>cleanser you should buy!
>
>I implemented conrefs in my DITA, and FrameMaker imports them wonderfully.  
>Except they TURN BLUE!  This makes about as much sense as the above 
>commercial.  Why would I EVER want my conrefs to be a different color?!?!?  I 
>tried looking through the EDD, and I only find one instance of "blue"...  It 
>has nothing to do with conrefs.  Does anybody know how Maker is performing 
>this nonsensical magic?  Must I kill a unicorn to end it?
>
>Thanks  cud
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Re: Proof reading the Adobe FrameMaker 11 'documentation'?

[Writer]

It's kind of surreal.

Nadine

>
> From: Alan Litchfield 
>To: framers@lists.frameusers.com 
>Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 12:24:42 PM
>Subject: Re: Proof reading the Adobe FrameMaker 11 'documentation'?
> 
>
>
>haha, I like that.
>
>
>On 16/08/13 10:05 PM, Simon BUCH wrote:
>
>
>>
>>* "FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf" file "Known Issues"?
>>    http://adobe.com/go/fm_known_issues_en
>>
>>Adobe special Error404 page again.
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Re: Incorporating an existing PDF into an FM-generated PDF

[Writer]

You should be able to do part of that with Acrobat. By page numbering, do you 
mean the printed page number or the page number in the box at the top of the 
Reader frame? If the later, you should be able to do that with Acrobat, too.

Nadine



 From: LGLists 
To: 'Post Framers'  
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 1:31:37 PM
Subject: Incorporating an existing PDF into an FM-generated PDF
 


FM 
10
Acrobat X 
Pro
Win 
7
 
I need to 
incorporate an existing and lengthy PDF file into the PDF file that 
I'll generate from the FM content I've written. 
 
At least for the 
foreseeable future, it won't be possible to incorporate the source content of 
the existing PDF into FM to be able to 
generate a single PDF file.
 
Is it 
possible to incorporate that existing PDF , as is, into the PDF that 
I'll generate, so that the TOC, page numbering, 
etc. will all be there for both PDFs? If 
yes, how?
 
If not, how 
would I create a link to that PDF in 
FM that will work from the generated PDF?I think I've 
done it before, but it's been a long, long 
time.
 
 
Thanks in 
advance!
 
~
Linda G. 
Gallagher
STC Fellow
TechCom Plus, LLC - 
celebrating 20 years!
lindag at techcomplus dot com
www.techcomplus.com 
303-450-9076 or 
800-500-3144
Tutorials, "show me" demos, user guides, help, FrameMaker and 
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Re: Word and Frame comparisons

[Writer]

Lock up templates. Restrict access to source files.

However, having said that, I'm reminded of this quote:

“You can’t make anything idiot proof because idiots are so ingenious.”

Nadine

>
> From: Corinne Kenney 
>To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com"  
>Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 2:25:58 PM
>Subject: Re: Word and Frame comparisons
> 
>
>
>You are probably right. And when people say "everybody knows Word," I tend to 
>give this reply:
> 
>The "good" thing about Word is that you can just open it up and start typing.
>The bad thing about Word is that -- you can just open it up and start typing.
> 
>Corinne Kenney
>Sr. Technical Editor/Writer
>Raytheon Company
>
>
>From: Ken Poshedly 
>To: Alastair Dent ; Maxwell Hoffmann 
>; Shmuel Wolfson ; Theresa de Valence 
> 
>Cc: "framers@lists.frameusers.com"  
>Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 7:04 AM
>Subject: Re: Word and Frame comparisons
>
>
>
>It's been my own experience that "requests" (actually "directives") for using 
>only Word came from the Marketing Dept and/or others who didn't believe that 
>Tech Pubs could do the job and demanded the ability to go in and "correct 
>things" as they saw fit. And because "everybody knows Word", well, that was 
>that. (I remember looking at some of their "corrections" and I'm glad not to 
>be there and take the "hate calls" from totally confused customers.)
>
>
>
>
>
>From: Alastair Dent 
>>To: Maxwell Hoffmann ; Shmuel Wolfson 
>>; Theresa de Valence  
>>Cc: "framers@lists.frameusers.com"  
>>Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 5:17 AM
>>Subject: RE: Word and Frame comparisons
>>
>>
>>This is 'sort of' possible in Word.
>>
>>Word cascades style definitions. So you should define all your heading styles 
>>based on a style called, say, 'Heading Base'.  Then you only alter the design 
>>as required for each style. If all your headings use the same font family, 
>>then it is possible to change the font family by altering the 'Heading Base' 
>>style. However, if one of your headings uses a different font family from 
>>'Heading Base', the new 'Heading Base' font family won't cascade to that 
>>heading.
>>
>>The same applies to all other definitions in the paragraph style.
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
>>[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Maxwell Hoffmann
>>Sent: 19 September 2013 18:19
>>To: Shmuel Wolfson; Theresa de Valence
>>Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
>>Subject: RE: Word and Frame comparisons
>>
>>I can think of at least one thing FrameMaker can do with paragraph updates 
>>that I don't think is possible in Word; you can globally update multiple 
>>paragraph styles in one step:
>>
>>(1) Create "Heading1" "Heading 2" "Heading3" next to each other
>>(2) Drag select through these 3 paragraphs, and Control-M to open Paragraph 
>>Designers
>>(3) Go to font level. Notice that there is no name displayed for the 
>>paragraph style and that some of the values are set to "As Is" (probably font 
>>size)
>>(4) Change the color to Blue and click on Update All
>>(5)
FrameMaker will ask you if you'd like to apply only font changes to paragraphs 
in selected area
>>(6) Click OK, and you have just changed the catalog definition for 3 
>>paragraphs in one step.
>>
>>You can see a brief video demo of this at: http://adobe.ly/18ddZqI
>>
>>
>>
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>>-Original
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>>From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
>>[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson
>>Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 2:10 AM
>>To: Theresa de Valence
>>Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
>>Subject: Re: Word and Frame comparisons
>>
>>Here's a nice solution for that:
>>http://www.elharo.com/blog/word/2005/12/28/word-tip-1-reapplying-styles/
>>
>>
>>
>>On 17-Sep-13 6:04 PM, Theresa de Valence wrote:
>>> Hi, this is possibly not the right place to ask this question, but ... 
>>> I have a lot
of experience with Frame and very little experience with 
>>> MS Word.
>>>
>>> In Frame I can overwrite all paragraph format overrides with a click.
>>>
>>> Can this be done in Word?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Theresa
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Re: Type 1 Helvetica, Internet Explorer, and Windows 7 Incompatible

[Writer]

Thank you for sharing your work, Mike.

Nadine

On Wed, 10/9/13, Mike Wickham  wrote:

 Subject: Type 1 Helvetica, Internet Explorer, and Windows 7 Incompatible
 To: "Frame Users" 
 Received: Wednesday, October 9, 2013, 2:24 PM
 
 I thought I might post a solution to
 a problem that I encountered recently, since it involves the
 Type 1 Helvetica font, and many of us have installed it. I
 was having major problems with Internet Explorer (10) not
 being able to load many websites. It would load them
 partially, not at all, or loaded links would not work.
 
 This drove me nuts for a while as I tried to figure out if I
 had a broken flash player or something else going on. I
 finally stumbled upon the cause and solution online.
 Apparently, Microsoft changed its font rendering engine in
 IE 9. That in combination with Windows 7 has done something
 to break the ability of IE to render websites that have
 Helvetica specified as a font.
 
 So if you see this problem yourself, the solution is to
 uninstall Type 1 Helvetica. Since many of us have PostScript
 printers, we have installed this font on our computers. The
 recommendation is to replace with a TrueType or OpenType
 version instead. The cost of OTF Helvetica is ridiculous,
 though. So hello Arial.
 
 If you create websites, you may want to leave Type 1 fonts
 out of your code or your IE visitors may not be able to see
 your site!
 
 Here's a link to a page describing the problem:
 
http://bobbyjoneswebdesign.blogspot.com/2011/12/internet-explorer-9-type-1-font-bug.html
 
 Mike Wickham
 
 
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Re: So Long and Thanks for the Fish -- Migrating from FrameMaker to Flare

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Joseph:

I understand this, but I'm sorry to see you go.

Please include me on your mailing list of the explanations.

Nadine

>
> From: "Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)" 
>To: Joseph Lorenzini ; FrameMaker Forum 
> 
>Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 2:22:59 PM
>Subject: RE: So Long and Thanks for the Fish -- Migrating fromFrameMaker 
>to Flare
> 
>
>
>Hi, Joseph.
> 
>You are not the only one who is abandoning FrameMaker … if you look at my 
>posts in the past months, I have done the same although I have been using it 
>since 1988 off and on. I am still on the list for old times sake, though. J
> 
>Please do send me your detailed reasons in an off-list e-mail – would like to 
>know your decision trigger! For me, it was the (a) recent over-pricing for 
>some version upgrades that should have been done as free bug fixes, (b) the 
>Adobe trend (albeit not yet announced for FrameMaker) to SAAS as the only 
>licensing mechanism, and (c) their abandonment of small users (i.e., number of 
>licenses) from their multi-year update licensing system.
> 
>Today, all my new documents are no longer in FrameMaker. I am only using it 
>for maintaining and changing old documents, and if the change is large enough, 
>I move it off FrameMaker. That takes a couple of days – even for the large 
>documents – and then I am fine for the future! In time, all my old documents 
>will be moved from FrameMaker.
> 
>However, I have not chosen Flare as my platform, although it looks quite 
>capable. Switching to it is expensive (of course, if they made me a $199 
>one-time offer to switch from FrameMaker to Flare, I would do it! J)
> 
>For now, for my needs (which may not apply to everybody), a combination of 
>Word 2013 for short documents (less than 10 to 20 pages), and LaTex (for large 
>multi-hundred page specifications) is proving quite workable. Not perfect, and 
>not as flexible as FrameMaker, but the costly “upgrades” of FrameMaker is not 
>acceptable, and the trend to equally costly SAAS is a deal-breaker.
> 
>BTW, LaTeX in particular allows me to achieve *complete* look-and-feel 
>consistency in my specifications – formatting is separate from text entry – 
>and I value that highly. It was my reason for selecting FrameMaker over Word 
>about 12 years ago for my current company.
> 
>Regards, and good luck!
> 
>Z
> 
>From:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
>[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Lorenzini
>Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 10:13 AM
>To: FrameMaker Forum; tcs-us...@googlegroups.com
>Subject: So Long and Thanks for the Fish -- Migrating from FrameMaker to Flare
> 
>Hi all,
> 
>I have used FrameMaker for over 5 years. I have used it to produce thousands 
>of pages of documentation. And I honestly thought that FM was a great 
>tool...for a time. Plus, the community was super helpful. 
> 
>So its with some regret that I am telling you that I am leaving this community 
>and the TCS suite. I am adopting Flare as a replacement. Please note I am no 
>evangelist of Flare nor do I think that there's One Right Tool. FrameMaker can 
>be a great solution for some and if works for you then great. The reasons why 
>I made this choice were driven by a specific business and use case
> 
>There are many reasons for this but that would cause this post to grow quite 
>large and I didn't want to flood this community with a gigantic post about why 
>I am not using its tool anymore.
> 
>That said, my experience of why and how i migrated may be of interest to 
>others in this forum. If you'd like a detailed explanation and are curious to 
>learn more, I would be happy to share those details with you offline. Feel 
>free to email me.
> 
>Sincerely,
>Joseph Lorenzini

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