RE: Framemaker installed under Administrator
Along with the other suggestions to get the IT nerd to install the application properly, report the issue to your manager. He/She won't be very happy if you can't perform the tasks that the company is paying you to do and should be able to go to the IT group manager and override this clown and get the issue straightened out. David Spreadbury Sr. Technical Writer -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Combs, Richard Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 3:03 PM To: Scott White Cc: FrameUsers List Subject: RE: Framemaker installed under Administrator ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: OFF-FM [Mif2Go] - HTML pages contain wrong links to images
Mathiue, I periodically run into this problem. What I have done to correct it is to delete the three Mif2Go generated configuration files, mif2go.ini, projectname.lst, and projectname.prj and rerun the Setup Mif2Go step (File > Setup Mif2Go). The aa, ab, etc., are references to the chapters. For instance, typically, aa reflects Chapter 1, ab Chapter2, etc., and should be listed in the mif2go.ini file. I am sure that Jeremy will jump in with a more accurate solution, as soon as they wake up. David Spreadbury Sr. Technical Writer -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of mathieu jacquet Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 5:33 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: OFF-FM [Mif2Go] - HTML pages contain wrong links to images Hi all, I do not know if a forum dedicated to Mif2Go issues exists, so I am posting my request here. I am using FM7.2 and Mif2Go on 64-bit Vista (no comment). HTML pages generated by Mif2Go contain links to images such as "C:/EclipseHelpFolder/aa0fxxx.jpg". The problem is that I do not have any "aa0fxxx.jpg" images in my folder, only "0fxxx.jpg", and as a result images won't display. Where does this "aa" prefix come from? Is this a .ini conf problem? Thank you all for your support, Mathieu. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FM 9 vs. InDesign
I have two PDFs: One comparing InDesign CS4, FrameMaker 9, and QuarkXPress 8 <http://www.ideastraining.com/PDFs/SelectingDTPprogram_v2.pdf> The older one comparing InDesign CS3, FrameMaker 8, and QuarkXPress 7 <http://www.ideastraining.com/PDFs/SelectingDTPprogram.pdf> What program one chooses greatly depends on the type of projects one will work on. If one is working on a large variety of projects--such as books, newsletters, brochures, and proposals--I would look hard at InDesign. If strictly working with larger book-type projects, one has to look at the features of each program vs. what is needed (such as typographic quality or column-spanning heads). Another thing to look at is the equipment one has; typically InDesign requires more computing power and RAM to run smoothly compared to FrameMaker. David Creamer IDEAS Training & Consultation http://www.IDEAStraining.com Adobe Certified Trainer for Photoshop, Illustrator, Acrobat, InDesign, InCopy, FrameMaker, Dreamweaver, Premiere, GoLive, and PageMaker Authorized Quark Training Provider Enfocus PitStop, Markzware FlightCheck, & FileMaker Authorized Trainer ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Conditional Text - Best Practices
Using your example, two sentences, translation or not. The sentences are different enough that it would be real confusing if all conditions were turned on. If it were simply a different product name, without translation, then one sentence. Translation, in my mind, would dictate having separate sentences. Send each version of the book to the translator with the proper instructions to translate book1 into French, book 2 into Spanish, or whatever. Eliminates errors by the translation outfit. David Spreadbury Sr. Technical Writer -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Alison Craig Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 3:45 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Conditional Text - Best Practices Version: FM9 OS: XP Pro with SP3 I have just completed my first Frame manual (conversion from Word to FM9) and am now beginning to create Conditional markers for a second product within the same manual (this will eventfully become 4 products). All of our manuals are translated into at least 6 other languages, so my question is: When creating conditional text should I always create a second version of a sentence, or should I simply create conditional clauses or words within the sentence? For example, instructions for product one might begin "Tap the touch screen Menu button." while the equivalent instruction for the second product would be "Press the console MENU button." Taking into account that translation will occur, would best practices dictate the creation of one step with 2 conditions? Or 2 sentences, one for each condition? If anyone has experience in this particular area I would appreciate your thoughts - and horror stories of what to avoid at all costs. Alison Alison Craig, Technical Writer Ultrasonix Medical Corporation 130 - 4311 Viking Way Richmond, BC V6V 2K9 Tel: (604) 279-8550, ext 127 Fax: (604) 279-8559 E-mail: alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com<mailto:alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com> ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Mif2Go: LOT and LOF accessible by search in HTML Help output
Jim, Just remove the generated files from the book before setting up Mif2Go. Mif2Go can create the generated files selected if you so choose in the setup dialog. The only caveat, if you are working with the sole set of source files, is not to save the book when you are done. I always work with a copy of the source, in the event I forgot that last step. David Spreadbury Sr. Technical Writer -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jim Owens Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:38 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Mif2Go: LOT and LOF accessible by search in HTML Help output This is a weird one -- any clues would be appreciated. I'm generating HTML Help using Mif2GO and two conditionalized Frame 9 books. I don't want the LOT or LOF in the outputs, so I've set UseFrameGenFiles=No. Nevertheless, when I search for terms such as "figure" or "table" in the Help, the returned list of topics may or may not include a List of Figures or List of Tables chapter. For one of the books, this does not happen at all. For the oher book, if I set conditions one way, I see the LOT in the output but not the LOF; if I set them another way, I see the LOF but not the LOT. Any ideas? ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as dspre...@yahoo.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dspreadb%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Zenserve Book Store plug-in replacement
Bruce Foster's Archive plug-in will do the trick. It is available from Leximations site for $25. David Spreadbury Sr. Technical Writer -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of rradcli...@invacare.com Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 4:39 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Zenserve Book Store plug-in replacement Hello All, After finishing a book we used the Zenserve Book Store Plug-in for FM to pull a copy of all files, including images used in the book, and place them into a new folder, Book Store would do this no mater where the original file was saved and would maintain all cross-references and image links in the new copy of the book. This copy could then be sent to translators or printers with no font or missing link issues. A copy is also saved into an archive system separate from our working files. Unfortunately, Zenserve appears to be out of business, so as we replace our computers we can no longer get new licences to reinstall the plug-in. Would any of you have a recommendation for a replacement to Book Store? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks for your time, Rob Radcliffe Technical Writer, Technical Writing Department Invacare Corporation Office: 440-326-3195 Fax: 440-326-3912 rradcli...@invacare.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Upgrading FM from 7.1 to 9
Lynn, I haven't upgraded to FM9, yet. It might happen in the near future though. In all the upgrades I have done with FrameMaker in the past, to get your documents updated just open and save. Everything should work just fine. As far as those members of your team that are staying on an earlier release, you would need to do a SaveAs FM7.x any documents that you send to them. You would need to do this each and every time, so getting everyone on the same version as soon as possible would save you some work. Also, if you use any of the new features of FM9, you will lose them when you SaveAs FM7.x. I don't use WebWorks, but if memory serves me, every time you upgrade FM you upgrade WebWorks. This can get pretty expensive if you have a lot of users. David Spreadbury Sr. Technical Writer -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Durell Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 11:21 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Upgrading FM from 7.1 to 9 Hi, My company is considering upgrading our FrameMaker from 7.1p114 to 9 (yippee, we've never upgraded before!). We're all running Win XP. Please forgive my lack of knowledge, but do we open our v7.1 FM files in v9 and then save them as v9? Or is it more complicated than that? Once our FM files are saved as v9, can any users still using v7.1 still read them (there's a chance our counterpart US office won't get the upgrade to v9)? Or would we need to save back as v7 for those rare occasions? Are there any known issues with doing this? We currently using WebWorks (WebWorks > AutoMap 2003 Client within FM menu) to produce CHM files. Will this be affected if we upgrade to v9? When you buy a v9 licence, do you automatically get all the patches that are released? Any other tips for upgrading? Can anyone confirm that v7.1 is no longer supported by Adobe? Thanks very much in advance for your help, Lynn ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: autonumbering in framemaker tables
Surbhi, Try creating your pin list in Excel and then importing, not by reference, the Excel spreadsheet into Frame. I just created a small spreadsheet and it imported into Frame .2 without any issues. HTH David Spreadbury Sr. Technical Writer -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Surbhi Singhal Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 1:28 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: autonumbering in framemaker tables Hello Framers! Good day.. I have a long pin list stretching to 200 pin names, which i plan to describe in tabular format. Is there a way to insert autonumbering in a column of the table, so that i donot have to type in the serial number manually. Regards Surbhi ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Import external file by reference
The only drawback to linking to an external file from within FrameMaker, or any application for that matter, is that the linked file must remain in the same relative folder relationship to the source file. Once you deliver the source document to your customer, typically as a PDF or possibly in an HTML Help format, you can't guarantee this relationship will be maintained. Once the relationship is broken the link no longer works. David Spreadbury Sr. Technical Writer -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Writer Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 11:44 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com; kgrace4...@aol.com Subject: Re: Import external file by reference Does this article help? http://www.webworks.com/Support/ePublisher/Legacy_Docs/Tech_Notes/Common/EX_ ePub9_Linking_to_PDFs.shtml Nadine --- On Tue, 12/8/09, kgrace4...@aol.com wrote: > From: kgrace4...@aol.com > Subject: Import external file by reference > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 12:06 PM > Does anyone know of a way that I can > "link" or "attach" a pdf or word > file to my framemaker file. The "other" file that I > would like to link > or attach is output that is being created at random, by > another person. > I would like to have them output their file to a > common file location > and when I open my framemaker file I want to pull in the > latest version > of their word or *.pdf file. To make this even more > challenging is the > fact that the document they are creating is a multipage > document which > I dont see how to work with. > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Switching to RoboHelp for large-scale Frame-to-HTML Help Project
Well, I will jump in and ask why not try Mif2Go. Book size doesn't matter. Should handle all your context sensitive requirements without a problem. Assistance, if needed, is an email away with usual response in 24 hours. Price is nice, $300/seat, compared to TCS or WWP. You can download a fully functional demo version from www.omsys.com. David Spreadbury Sr. Technical Writer -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tony Marek Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 12:41 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Switching to RoboHelp for large-scale Frame-to-HTML Help Project Hello -- We're very interested in any input on our tentative plans to switch from WWPro to RoboHelp for our ongoing context-sensitive HTML Help projects. In particular, we'd like to know any of your experiences using RoboHelp 8 on multiple book sets that include large, complex books (2,000+ pages, thousands of images, hundreds of cross-references and hypertext links, etc.). Our software product's UI Help buttons call topic alias markers which are included in the HTML output, based on markers that we've embedded throughout the content of our Frame books. We're currently using WWP and encountering new problems with each patch they release. The product is proving too unstable for us to move forward with. Any thoughts on taking on a conversion from WWPro to RoboHelp? Our output has to be HTML, and it needs to be able to use some sort of topic alias marker system so the product's Help calls from various GUI's will be context-sensitive and open the correct topic in the HTML Help system. We assume that this would entail us upgrading to the latest Adobe Communications Suite. We're currently on Frame 8. Thanks for any and all advice. -- *Tony marek */Technical Publications Manager / /email /tony.ma...@pdf.com_ _ __ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as dspre...@yahoo.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dspreadb%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: "Anchoring" Callout Text to a Figure
You select the graphic frame, then press Ctrl+A (Select All), then Graphics > Group from the FrameMaker menu bar. Now everything is one piece. If you need to change a callout, you will need to ungroup, edit, then regroup the entities in the graphic frame. David Spreadbury Sr. Technical Writer -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of jdela...@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 3:36 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: "Anchoring" Callout Text to a Figure OK, noob alert. What is the preferred way of creating text callouts so that they are anchored to a figure, i.e., if the figure is moved down or up a few lines, the callouts move with it? I import a graphic by reference. I create text in a text frame selected from the Graphics Toolbar, and position it. I then add a line return above it, and of course the graphic moves down but the callout stays "floating" in its original position. FM 9 on XP Pro SP3 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: "Anchoring" Callout Text to a Figure
Not to beat this horse much further into the ground, but why would I place a callout to an item in a graphic outside the frame containing the graphic? Obviously, if I place the callout outside the frame containing the illustration, there is not binding of the callouts and the illustration. If I place the callouts inside the graphic frame containing the illustration I can then bind them together as one object, after grouping. Then I don't care what happens outside the graphic frame, everything in the frame stays together. David Spreadbury Sr. Technical Writer -Original Message- From: knowhow...@gmail.com [mailto:knowhow...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Peter Gold Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 3:58 PM To: David Spreadbury Cc: jdela...@comcast.net; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: "Anchoring" Callout Text to a Figure If I understand the original poster's process, importing a graphic with an insertion point in text creates an anchored frame. This is why the graphic flows with the text. It shouldn't be necessary to group text lines or text frames with the graphic in the anchored frame, for the callouts to move with the anchored frame; the callouts just need to inside the anchored frame. The best way to assure that they are is to be sure that the mouse pointer is inside the boundary of the anchored frame when you drag the callout, then release the mouse. To select the text frame callout, press Ctrl when you point the mouse over the text frame; this changes the cursor to a graphic pointer. When the text frame is selected, you can release Ctrl and just drag the callout inside the anchored frame boundary. You can position the callouts within the anchored frame by dragging, or by selecting and using the arrow keys to move by one pixel per key press, or use Shift+arrow keys to move by five pixels. HTH Regards, Peter ___ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Frame xml to sgml conversion
Darren, You might take a look at Mif2Go for the FM -> XML conversion step. It has built-in support for DocBook and DITA. I have used it for DITA conversion. The XML imported fine into XMetal. I would expect the same with an import into Arbortext. David Spreadbury Sr. Technical Writer -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Butler, Darren J CTR USAF AFMC 584 CBSS/GBHDB Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 1:41 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Frame xml to sgml conversion Hello FrameManiacs, We use Arbortext for sgml authoring. Due to differences in DTDs, using structured FM for this is not an option for us. We have a need to convert unstructured FM into XML that can be morphed-up to sgml either by technique or application(s). I'm curious to know what tools and/or techniques are being used to accomplish FrameMaker *.xml files to sgml (non-Frame). Thanxs, DJ Darren J Butler TDSS Technical Writer/Editor 584 CBSS/GBHDE via CACI Corp Robins AFB, Georgia 31098 [478] 222-7942 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Mif2Go Help?
I would imagine the only way to accomplish this is to combine all of the Frame chapters into one file and then use Mif2Go to process one RTF file. If you look through the Mif2Go User's Guide, para 17.2.3 recommends this for HTML output, when only one HTML file is desired. You will wind up with one horrendous RTF file, but if that is what you want, that is what you will get. As Art pointed out, Word does have a Master Document scheme, but I would rather go through root canal surgery than use it. David Spreadbury Sr. Technical Writer -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 10:02 AM To: Hales-Crotchett, Nicole Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Mif2Go Help? Well, just addressing one of the issues, you need to concatenate the FM files in some way before you MIF2GO them for the output. (Isn't there some kind of Word multi-file tool?) Either create a new "container" file and import each chapter as a text inset or create a new file and actually copy the content in. I always do the first; a FrameScript that Rick Quattro has in his toolbox makes it quick and painless. r...@frameexpert.com *** Help files should have been included in your download, but you can also just use the browser to download them separately or view the online version. Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Hales-Crotchett, Nicole wrote: > Hi All, > > > > I'm working with the demo version of Mif2Go so I can create a Word version of my tech manuals (long story short: ancient customer demands Word for delivery). I'm having some difficulty getting the output to look like my Frame files... it doesn't help any that the magic "huh?" button doesn't seem to call up any of the help files (can't display the web page). > > > > So here's a general plea: tips? Tricks? Suggestions? > > How can I get one Word (or RTF, I guess) file for the book as a whole instead of one file per .fm file? > > How can I get my graphics to show up at the right size? > > ??? > > > > I'm on Frame 7.1, windows platform. My company is going to buy licenses soon, but I'm the lucky one who gets to play with the demo, learn how to make it work, and then train my department. Except I'm stuck. > > > > Thanks in advance; feel free to email me directly if it's too much clutter for the list. > > > > Cheers! > > Nicole ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Square Bullets for PDF and HTML in 7.1
Nancy, You don't mention the tool you are using to generate your HTML. If you're using Mif2Go, check out para 20.5.6 in the Mif2Go User's Guide. [WingChars] ; char n maps to a square bullet: n = x25a0 David Spreadbury Sr. Technical Writer -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Allison Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 10:13 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Square Bullets for PDF and HTML in 7.1 Hi, all. This is not a question about how to create a custom bullet -- I know how to do it and it is well explained in the FrameMaker online help. My question is, is it possible to create a square bullet format in FrameMaker 7.1 that will translate correctly to HTML? 7.1 doesn't support Unicode fonts, correct? Is there a tried-and-true method short of using a bitmap image for the square bullet? Thanks for all suggestions. --Nancy ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Even/Odd Page Layout Issue
Hi Alison, Where is your End of Flow marker located? On each page of the document, do a Select All On Page (Ctrl+A) to see if any additional elements (e.g. graphics frame with invisible border) are on the pages. Check whether there is an additional text flow in the doc (perhaps you have an empty graphics frame or text inset that overlaps the master page text column, meaning that is not apparent if you are not searching for it. Perhaps there is a table that ends flush at the bottom of the page pushing the next line to the next page. HTH, David David Schor Technical Writer Afcon Software and Electronics Tel: 073 200 1154 Mobile: 054 478 8253 dav...@afcon-inc.com dsch...@gmail.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidschortw On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 4:15 AM, Alison Craig wrote: > Version: FM9 (9.0p237) > OS: XP Pro with SP3 > > I've been creating a new User Manual based on an existing Book (originally > created by a consultant). I want each Chapter to have a minimum of 2 pages > (Right and Left sides, like any regular book). > > I know I'm missing something simple, but with a virtually empty Chapter 1 (it > has Headers, Footers, Chapter title and an End of Flow marker) I have 4 pages > instead of 2. My Appendix A is correct, as is my "Chapter+.fm" and my > "Appendix+.fm". I've compared as many settings as I can think of but I can't > see where this is controlled. > > The settings under Format > Page Layout > Pagination (for all 4 docs) are as > follows: > Double Sided, 1st Page Side: Right > Make current Page Count Even > > The settings under Format > Page Layout > Master Page Usage (for all 4 docs) > are as follows: > Use Master Page: Right/Left > Apply to: Current Page (1) > Even (Left) Odd (Right) > > Note that the unselected option "Pages: x to x" lists First Page as 1 and > Last Page as 4, so FM is acknowledging that there are actually 4 pages in > this document - even though there should only be 2. > > What setting am I missing? > > Alison > > Alison Craig, Technical Writer > Ultrasonix Medical Corporation > Tel: (604) 279-8550, ext 127 > E-mail: alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com<mailto:alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com> > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as dsch...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dsch.tw%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: RoboHelp Help
You can also try joining and posting your questions to h...@yahoogroups.com. David Spreadbury Sr. Technical Writer -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tony Marek Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 11:49 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RoboHelp Help Does anyone know if there is a similar RoboHelp mailing list? I don't have a specific question yet, but I'll be working on Frame-to-HTML Help soon. I'm sure I'll need to learn from an educated, helpful crowd such as you Framers. Thanks, Tony in San Jose ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Software recommendations
What is wrong with working in your current version of FrameMaker, which you don't mention, so I am going to assume 7.2. What is wrong with creating the PDFs straight out of FrameMaker? Mif2Go can handle your online help problem. It produces several different flavors of Online Help, from Windows Compiled HTML (CHM) to Oracle Help for Java (cross-platform), to Omni Help (Web HTML Help), and the cost won't break your budget. You can download and play with their eval version at www.omsys.com. As others have pointed out, you can, with a little work, manage the CMS part manually. David Spreadbury Sr. Technical Writer -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Roger Shuttleworth Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 3:24 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: OT: Software recommendations Hello All I just started a new job at a software company whose product is very GUI-intense. User assistance is crucial, and our legacy versions use online Help that opens in a separate browser window. Management seem to be very open to the idea of embedded help, etc. in upcoming versions, and they are very serious about good UI design - so I'm hoping I'll be able to promote embedded help in the future. In the past the Help was created in RoboHelp 7 and existed separately from any PDF output, but in the future I can see us also creating well-designed PDFs, single-sourcing the PDF and the Help, and maybe also training materials. There will also be about four software packages with different sets of features (so some form of inclusion/exclusion mechanism will be needed. I'm looking for recommendations as to which software package(s) to use. My inclination is to get TCS2, single-source in FrameMaker, and then push to RH. I'm pretty savvy with structured FM (though not v.9.0). Before I leap for TCS2, I wonder if there are other possibilities. We do not need XML as yet, though it may be a remote possibility down the road). I've also thought about using XML and the DITA-OT, but the PDF output is probably not good enough and there will be issues with file management in the absence of a content management system. Any suggestions will be welcome. Thanks for your help. Roger Roger Shuttleworth Technical Documentation AV-BASE Systems Inc. 1000 Air Ontario Drive, Suite 200 London, Ontario N5V 3S4 Canada Tel. 519 691-0919 ext. 320 rshuttlewo...@avbasesystems.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FM Importing Figures from Database
Nancy, There is an Adobe document that discusses this very task. I don't know if it will solve your specific issues, but it might be a place to start. http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/pdfs/database_fm7.pdf David Spreadbury Sr. Technical Writer -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Allison Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 10:35 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: FM Importing Figures from Database Hi, everyone. I posted this question to techwr-l about a week ago but received no replies. I'm hoping that some Framers may have experience they can share. We currently store all figures in Windows Explorer directories, and import by reference into FrameMaker documents. We figure a database would eliminate our current, frequent duplication of files and confer other benefits as well. But I don't understand how a db and FM interact. Is it possible to import a figure by reference into a FrameMaker file from a database? Can you point to a db directory the way you would to a regular Windows Explorer directory? Thanks. --Nancy ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Small caps in the middle of a cross reference
Jenny, You might be looking to fix the problem in the wrong area. I went and experimented with applying a SmCaps Character Tag to a word in an existing cross-reference and then I updated my cross-references. The word came across as SmCaps while the remainder of the cross reference retained the default xref font. David Spreadbury Sr. Technical Writer -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jenny Greenleaf Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 5:07 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Small caps in the middle of a cross reference The boss has decreed that the product names will appear in small caps. I have a couple of cross references that refer to chapter titles containing these product names. Although the name is in small caps in the chapter title, it is not in small caps in the cross reference. The references are "Chapter 2, Get started with MyProduct" and "Chapter 7, Use MyOtherProduct". I poked at the manual and the CR dialog a bit. The manual tells you how to add character formatting, but only to the X-ref as a whole. I just need small caps for one word. I can put up with any sort of workaround, since it's only two and it's very important to my employer. Ideas? Thanks in advance. Jenny Greenleaf Portland, OR ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: global header change?
Ken, Updating the variables in one chapter, and then importing the variables into all other chapters in the book, should fix your problem. I work on documents for telecommunications equipment/software. Our template/EDD is developed around TCIF Guide which uses a separate file as a repository for all system/user variables. We make changes there and then import them to all chapters in the book. This way even variables used in headers/footers are updated. David Spreadbury Sr. Technical Writer -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Ken Poshedly Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 1:48 PM To: Diane Gaskill; Combs, Richard; FrameMaker Users List Subject: Re: global header change? (FM 8.0 on a Windows Vista desktop) Wow, this thread goes back TWO months. Well, first, thanks, Diane, for the tip. I'll try your suggestion to see what I can get done on the existing manual I described at the time so that I can simply use that book for a modified machine with a different name (hydraulic excavator, drill rig, etc). Second, a few weeks ago, I finally delved into creating and defining a "ProductName" variable for the various section headers of a brand new manual and it (using a FrameMaker variable) works beautifully! One thing that I'm not crazy about, however, is that find-and-replace does not check headers / footers, thus preventing me from making any product name or other changes that way.. -- Kenpo in Atlanta ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Grayscale Images are RGB
>From separate posts > I will not be doing a major catalog in InDesign. That would take who knows how > long. Framemaker is the best thing out there for catalogs period. I know both programs fairly well and could not make that blanket statement. I would say it depends on the catalog, personnel, and other factors. > Migrating to InDesign is a *** H U G E *** task and may not be able to > provide enough functionality. InDesign is fantastic in many aspects, but > Framemaker definitely has its advantages and is -- for some tasks -- far > superior to InDesign. There is a plug-in that can convert MIF files to ID (from dtptools.com). Of course, with any conversion, there will be some clean up work. Most people think that ID cannot work with large documents, but I was recently conversing with users that have produced documents over 2000 pages. I have a PDF that compares IDCS4, Frame 9, and Quark 8.1: <http://www.ideastraining.com/PDFs/SelectingDTPprogram_v2.pdf> David Creamer IDEAS Training & Consultation http://www.IDEAStraining.com Adobe Certified Trainer for Photoshop, Illustrator, Acrobat, InDesign, InCopy, FrameMaker, Dreamweaver, Premiere, GoLive, and PageMaker Authorized Quark Training Provider Enfocus PitStop, Markzware FlightCheck, & FileMaker Authorized Trainer ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: OT: Is there software for burning cross-platform CDs from PC?
Scott, Yes there is a Windows tool that will give you HFS+, Joliet, and Rockridge, besides the newer version of Roxio, and it is free. There is a cygwin port of the Unix makeiso utility. I have been using it for several years to produce CDs that are destined for cross-platform use. David Spreadbury Sr. Technical Writer -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of qui...@airmail.net Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 2:52 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: OT: Is there software for burning cross-platform CDs from PC? You can always use ISO9660 format. Roxio has Roxio Creator 2010 which should do this. But on the whole, no, there are very few Windows programs that will format HFS+ format, if any. Windows programs are inherently limited and narrow visioned as far as format is concerned. Of course the Mac you are using is probably around 10 years old. Amazing how long it functioned isn't it? And if it is that old it probably relies on Appletalk. A more recent OS would integrate seamlessly into your ethernet. Scott On 2/4/10 2:32 PM, Wendy McGovern wrote: > Hi, Framers > > > > Does anyone know if there is software for burning cross-platform CDs > from PCs rather than Macs? > > > > We use Frame 7 to make PDF files of our books and do CDs with Acrobat > files, a ReadMe simple text file, and sometimes Word and WordPerfect > forms files. We used to use an old Mac (OS 8.6) with Toast, but they > recently put in a new server and now they can't get the Mac to see the > server where our PC files are anymore. Getting a new Mac is not an > option. We did try to transfer the files to the Mac by jump drive and > burning a CD from the PC, but it wouldn't recognize the disks. > > > > Is there a Toast equivalent for the PC that will let us burn > cross-platform? We do use only 8.3 naming convention for our files. > > > > We have Windows XP, Acrobat 8 Pro. > > > > We need to get a book CD out ASAP, so any immediate advice would be > welcomed. Thanks! ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Printing PDF from Framemaker
You want to specify *.ps in Print to File and select Separate File for Each Document from Save Book As:. This will give you inidividual postscript files for each chapter, named the same as the chapter files. --- On Thu, 2/4/10, kgrace4...@aol.com wrote: From: kgrace4...@aol.com Subject: Printing PDF from Framemaker To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Date: Thursday, February 4, 2010, 9:36 PM I have book (e.g., book.bk) with files (Ch1.fm, Ch2.fm, Ch3.fm,Ch4.fm) that I would like to print as pdf files. I would like a book.pdf (all chapter files combined in one file) and Ch1.pdf, Ch2.pdf, Ch3.pdf and Ch4.pdf. Printing the book.pdf file can be accomplished with the setting of "Print Book As: Single Print Job". I would like now create the individual chapter pdf files in some sort of automated fashion. When I change to the setting of "Print Book As: Single Print Job" I am prompted to name each file and location. Is there a way to make the selection and have the file name be that of the .fm file and not a combination of the book and chapter file name by default. To further this it would be real nice if this could be accomplished in silent mode i.e., I am not bother with the naming of the individual files. In reality there are many more files and over time this is going to be a pain. Any ideas on streamlining this workflow? Grace ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
OT: Is there software for burning cross-platform CDs from PC?
> Does anyone know if there is software for burning cross-platform CDs > from PCs rather than Macs? I use MacDrive from MediaFour. Very useful for Boot Camp users too. David Creamer IDEAS Training & Consultation http://www.IDEAStraining.com Adobe Certified Trainer for Photoshop, Illustrator, Acrobat, InDesign, InCopy, FrameMaker, Dreamweaver, Premiere, GoLive, and PageMaker Authorized Quark Training Provider Enfocus PitStop, Markzware FlightCheck, & FileMaker Authorized Trainer ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Cross Reference Issue
Allison, You don't mention whether you are using Structured or Unstructured. In a Structured world your cross-reference format could look something like: Step\ <$elemparanumonly> So, using the same rational, in an Unstructured environment: Step\ <$paranumonly> Should work. David Spreadbury Sr. Technical Writer -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Alison Craig Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 6:02 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Cross Reference Issue Version: FM9 (9.0p237) OS: XP Pro with SP3 This will either be simple or impossible to fix, but either way, I'm stumped. I've created a cross reference that allows me to refer to a specific step within a list of instructions, but I have a small problem. The period that follows my step number is being included in the X-Ref - and I don't want it to be. My instructions are defined as follows: Instruction1 ".\t" Instruction+ ".\t" My X=Ref (Instruction Step #) is defined as "step <$paranum>" Using Special > Marker to insert the cross reference results in, for example, "step 13." And I don't want the period as part of the X-Ref. Any suggestions? Alison Alison Craig, Technical Writer Ultrasonix Medical Corporation 130 - 4311 Viking Way Richmond, BC V6V 2K9 Tel: (604) 279-8550, ext 127 Fax: (604) 279-8559 E-mail: alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com<mailto:alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com> ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Indesign VB Scripting [was FrameMaker vs. InDesign book files]
Chris, According to the document at http://wwwimages.adobe.com/www.adobe.com/products/indesign/scripting/pdfs/in design_cs3_scripting_tutorial.pdf the answer is yes, InDesign can handle VBScripts. Excerpt: The Scripts panel can run compiled or uncompiled AppleScripts (files with the file extension .spt, .as, or .applescript), JavaScripts (files with the file extension .js or .jsx), VBScripts (files with the extension .vbs), or executable programs from the Scripts panel. If you are using the CS4 version, try http://www.adobe.com/devnet/indesign/pdfs/indesigncs4_scriptingtutorial.pdf. HTH, David Spreadbury Sr. Technical Writer -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Chris Despopoulos Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 12:01 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Indesign VB Scriptin [was FrameMaker vs InDesign book files] Is it true that nDesign supports VB scripting? Is the handling of a document model any better than that for Word? What I mean is, in Maker you can us the API to get all the text items in a paragraph, and that breaks the pgf into all the char format changes, all the table anchors, aframe anchors, xrefs, etc. Trying to get that kind of detail about your content in Word is miserabl, as far as I can tell. So the question is (yes, on the surface this is off topic), how does Indesign expose its content to VB? Does anybody have any experience? And to get on topic, would it be reasonable to have a VB tool that can stuff ID content into Maker (and vis-versa)? cud ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as dspre...@yahoo.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dspreadb%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FrameScript/ script to convert mif>fm
Hello, I am trying to use Framescript to accelerate conversion of a set of mif files into fm files. There is a script in FrameScript called DirSaveAsMif.fsl, but it saves into mif. Does anyone knows how to modify it in order to convert mif files into fm? Thank you for helping Anton ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FrameScript/ script to convert mif>fm
Anton, Have you tried just opening the mif in Frame? No extra tools are needed, mif is native to Frame. David Spreadbury Sr. Technical Writer -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Anton David Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 12:31 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: FrameScript/ script to convert mif>fm Hello, I am trying to use Framescript to accelerate conversion of a set of mif files into fm files. There is a script in FrameScript called DirSaveAsMif.fsl, but it saves into mif. Does anyone knows how to modify it in order to convert mif files into fm? Thank you for helping Anton ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
R: FrameScript/ script to convert mif>fm
Hello David, I know that I can open the mif file in Frame. But for each file, I have to do a Save As and then choose FM as file type, and possibly change also the extension from mif to fm. Anton -Messaggio originale- Da: David Spreadbury [mailto:dspre...@yahoo.com] Inviato: lunedì 8 marzo 2010 20.41 A: 'Anton David'; framers@lists.frameusers.com Oggetto: RE: FrameScript/ script to convert mif>fm Anton, Have you tried just opening the mif in Frame? No extra tools are needed, mif is native to Frame. David Spreadbury Sr. Technical Writer -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Anton David Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 12:31 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: FrameScript/ script to convert mif>fm Hello, I am trying to use Framescript to accelerate conversion of a set of mif files into fm files. There is a script in FrameScript called DirSaveAsMif.fsl, but it saves into mif. Does anyone knows how to modify it in order to convert mif files into fm? Thank you for helping Anton ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FrameScript/ script to convert mif>fm
Anton, I just experimented with a few Frame files, saved out as mif. I renamed the mif to fm and opened them in Frame, without issues. Depending on how many mif files you want to save as Frame, you can either do it manually or get one of many freeware file renaming tools to rename your mif to fm. David Spreadbury Sr. Technical Writer -Original Message- From: Anton David [mailto:an...@xlated.com] Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 2:01 PM To: 'David Spreadbury'; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: R: FrameScript/ script to convert mif>fm Hello David, I know that I can open the mif file in Frame. But for each file, I have to do a Save As and then choose FM as file type, and possibly change also the extension from mif to fm. Anton ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: FrameScript/ script to convert mif>fm
I also looked at the DZBatcher utility. It looks like it will do exactly what you want. All it would take is to build a little batch file to open and save all of your mif files as Frame files. David Spreadbury Sr. Technical Writer -Original Message- From: Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) [mailto:syed.hos...@aeris.net] Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 3:38 PM To: David Spreadbury; 'Anton David'; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: FrameScript/ script to convert mif>fm If all you are doing is renaming the file, then just open a Command Prompt window, go to the directory and do a "rename *.mif *.fm" and that will handle them all. Of course, make a backup of the files into another directory first! :) Z -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of David Spreadbury Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 12:15 PM To: 'Anton David'; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: FrameScript/ script to convert mif>fm Anton, I just experimented with a few Frame files, saved out as mif. I renamed the mif to fm and opened them in Frame, without issues. Depending on how many mif files you want to save as Frame, you can either do it manually or get one of many freeware file renaming tools to rename your mif to fm. David Spreadbury Sr. Technical Writer -----Original Message- From: Anton David [mailto:an...@xlated.com] Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 2:01 PM To: 'David Spreadbury'; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: R: FrameScript/ script to convert mif>fm Hello David, I know that I can open the mif file in Frame. But for each file, I have to do a Save As and then choose FM as file type, and possibly change also the extension from mif to fm. Anton ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
R: FrameScript/ script to convert mif>fm - Solved
Dear Framers, Many thanks for all people who kindly asnwered to my query. I followed the advise of David Spreadbury : just renamed the file from .mif to .fm and opened them in FrameMaker, then used the command Save all open files and saved them as .fm. The rest is just clicking OK and Overwrite to Save the file. Make sure you set the mouse cursor to automatically go to the predefined button (in Control Pnale > Mouse). Anton David -Messaggio originale- Da: David Spreadbury [mailto:dspre...@yahoo.com] Inviato: lunedì 8 marzo 2010 21.15 A: 'Anton David'; framers@lists.frameusers.com Oggetto: RE: FrameScript/ script to convert mif>fm Anton, I just experimented with a few Frame files, saved out as mif. I renamed the mif to fm and opened them in Frame, without issues. Depending on how many mif files you want to save as Frame, you can either do it manually or get one of many freeware file renaming tools to rename your mif to fm. David Spreadbury Sr. Technical Writer -Original Message----- From: Anton David [mailto:an...@xlated.com] Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 2:01 PM To: 'David Spreadbury'; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: R: FrameScript/ script to convert mif>fm Hello David, I know that I can open the mif file in Frame. But for each file, I have to do a Save As and then choose FM as file type, and possibly change also the extension from mif to fm. Anton ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Semi-OT: Tool for modular doc, multiple import/export
Hello Dale, Try searching for a "component content management system" as I think that's the closest industry term to what you are looking for. I believe there are a number of tools that may fit the bill, at least when it comes to importing and storing text data from various formats. You use the terms "import" and "export" which to me imply some element of processing or conversion. Many content management systems use more neutral terms such as "store" and "retrieve" which don't imply any processing. I'm sure that if you store an FM file it will still be an FM file when you retrieve it, but I suspect it may be difficult to find a tool (other than FM Server, perhaps) that can "export" or generate FM files from other content. You may find that the ideal tool is far too expensive, or far too difficult to integrate into your company's existing systems, and so you'll need to develop your own hybrid solution, with some sort of shared storage with library features (check-in and check-out control0 and versioning, but with you own procedures and workflows. (An example of this sort of content management system is Alfresco, http://www.alfresco.com). There are limits to what software tools can achieve, however. The most difficult decision you and your colleagues need to make is defining what you consider a "component" or "module" to be. regards, David Farbey On 18 March 2010 14:47, Oppenheimer, Dale L wrote: > Hi readers, > > I'm posting on behalf of my documentation team.We are a team of eight > who write a complete array of documentation for a broad range of > products . Additionally, we use different tools -- primarily. FrameMaker > or MS Word for paper documentation, and Dreamweaver for online help > systems - and are all located in different states or India. We are > searching for a single tool we can use that will cover all (or most) of > our needs. We are starting with broad criteria -- we'd like a tool that > stores modular documentation and can handle the import and export of > PDF, FrameMaker, HTML, and Word files. DITA is not a required criterion. > If any readers of this list can offer suggestions for tools that can > support these functions, we'd greatly appreciate it. > > I did check the Framer archives and found mention of products like TCS2, > MIF2GO, and WebWorks ePublisher. I suggested these to my team, and our > conclusion was that these did not quite have what we wanted for storing > modular documentation. Any other thoughts? > > Thanks in advance! > > -- Dale Oppenheimer > > This e-mail, including attachments, may include confidential and/or > proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity > to which it is addressed. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended > recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby notified > that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is > prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the > sender by replying to this message and delete this e-mail immediately. > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as dfar...@yahoo.co.uk. > > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dfarbey%40yahoo.co.uk > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- David Farbey - da...@farbey.co.uk Mobile 07879 005 946 Web site/Blog <http://www.farbey.co.uk> Twitter <http://twitter.com/dfarb> LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/informationdesign> ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Landscape Tables in a Portrait Style Book
Alison, I ran into this very problem back a while ago. Put your tables in a separate chapter/appendix file and rotate the table. You can find the instructions if you search the help for "Rotating cells and tables". HTH David Spreadbury Sr. Technical Writer -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Alison Craig Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 12:40 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Landscape Tables in a Portrait Style Book Version: FM9 (9.0p237) Unstructured OS: XP Pro with SP3 FM Experience: 10 months Tech Comm Experience: 15 years I am condensing a bunch of repeated table content into 2 or 3 tables. Due to the data format and my page size, I would like to use Landscape format tables in a Portrait format manual. Using my Scriptorium book, I played around with their instructions but that actually made the entire Appendix Landscape which is not what I want/need as there will be a some regular title/text content that should be Portrait style, including the Appendix Heading. My book files use Master Pages set up with right and left pages (these were configured by a contractor as I didn't have the experience to set this up on my own). I understand the concepts of what was done but perhaps not all the details which is why I tried the Scriptorium book to sort this out. I think what I need are several text flows within the Appendix so that I can format the "table text flows" as Landscape but leave the rest of the document (including all Headers and Footers) as Portrait. I've thought about using Text Insets to bring in the tables but I'm not sure how I would insert them in Landscape format - although I think I could create them that way in my existing Text Inset file. FYI: I use table titles before the table (to which the table is anchored). I type in the title and format it with a Table Para tag that numbers the table based on Chapter/Appendix and the table number within the Chapter/Appendix (eg, Table 3-1: xxx, Table B-4: xxx). Any and all suggestions would be appreciated. Alison Alison Craig, Technical Writer Ultrasonix Medical Corporation Tel: (604) 279-8550, ext 127 E-mail: alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com<mailto:alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com> ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Odd Numbering Scenario
Joseph, And you only have two chapters in this book, correct? At the book level, set the first appendix to start at 1, alphabetically A, and then regen. HTH, David Spreadbury Sr. Technical Writer -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Lorenzini Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 10:02 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Odd Numbering Scenario Hi all, I am experiencing an odd problem with numbering. I have two types of chapter numbers: appendices and regular chapters. The appendices are numbered by letters (A, B, C, D) and the regular chapters are numbered numerically (1,2,3). L:.< =0>< =0>< =0>< >< >< >< >\t A:Appendix :< =0>< =0>< =0>< =0>< >< >< >< > In all my books, I have all frame files set to "Continue Numbering from previous chapter in book". Since they are different number series, they shouldn't affect one another and in all but one of my books they do not. In one of my books it seems to matter and I don't know why. My first appendix starts at "D" instead of "A". Its as if as there's two appendices preceding this first framemaker file but I know there is not. Any ideas on what's going on? I can do a quick fix by simply restarting the chapter number on that file but I am curious as to why this would occur in the first place. Thanks, Joseph Lorenzini ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Changing font when translating to Japanese
Hi Verner, I hope I'm not missing something important here, but I think the answers to some of your questions are quite straightforward: 1. You can use the Paragraph Designer to change the font, for all the relevant paragraph tags. 2. If your book has multiple chapters use Import> Formats to copy Paragraph Designer settings from one chapter to all chapters. 3. The only people who can tell you which fonts to use are your translators or editors. You also need to discuss your other questions with your translators, editors and project managers, as they will probably know what works in your particualr situation. Hope this helps, David Regards, David On 25 March 2010 07:24, Andersen, Verner Engell VEA < verner.ander...@radiometer.dk> wrote: > Hi > > I am going to send an English manual to translation in Japanese. The > translators use Trados tageditor. > > My manual uses the Verdana font. I believe that I have to change all the > fonts? > > Do you know which font I must have in the .mif files? I looked at a > translated Japanes manual and it had both MS UI Gothic and Arial Unicode > MS. > > > > What is the easiest way to change the font? > > A search and replace throughout the book? > What about text on master pages in markers etc? > > Is it a better idea to change the font in the .mif file? > > I have topicAlias markers which must not be translated. > > Any other recommendations before shipping the file off? > Best regards, > > Verner Andersen > > > > Radiometer Medical ApS > Akandevej 21 > 2700 Bronshoj > Denmark > Phone: +45 38 27 38 27 > CVR: 27 50 91 85 > www.radiometer.com > For the latest trends in acute care testing, go to Radiometer's knowledge > site www.acutecaretesting.org > > > > > > Please be advised that this email may contain confidential > information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us > by email by replying to the sender and delete this message. The > sender disclaims that the content of this email constitutes an offer > to enter into, or the acceptance of, any agreement; provided that the > foregoing does not invalidate the binding effect of any digital or > other electronic reproduction of a manual signature that is included > in any attachment. > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as dfar...@yahoo.co.uk. > > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dfarbey%40yahoo.co.uk > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- David Farbey - da...@farbey.co.uk Mobile 07879 005 946 Web site/Blog <http://www.farbey.co.uk> Twitter <http://twitter.com/dfarb> LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/informationdesign> ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Mif2Go exclude page numbers from x-refs?
John, You are looking for what is covered in para 4.6.1 Specifying conversion-template settings in the Mif2Go User's Guide. David Spreadbury Sr. Technical Writer -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of John Sgammato Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 3:36 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com; fram...@omsys.com Subject: Mif2Go exclude page numbers from x-refs? I am generating online OmniHelp from FM9 files. The X-refs in the manuals say See "x on page ". I want to keep the and lose the "on page ". I know it can be done - I have done it before, but I don't remember how! John Sgammato Imprivata Principal Technical Writer (O) 781-674-2441 (H) 508-747-2809 ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Special character as bullet
Nina, I knew I saved my Frame 5.5 User's Guide for a reason. The original FrameMaker books went into much more detail than the newer versions. The 5.5 User's Guide has the following procedure to use a special bullet symbol: To use a special bullet symbol: 1. Create a character format that uses the font of the bullet symbol you want to use. For example, to use 9-point Zapf Dingbats, create a character format using that font. Give the format a descriptive name such as BulletFont. For information on creating character formats, see "Creating new formats". 2. Display the Numbering properties of the Paragraph Designer and enter the character corresponding to the bullet symbol you want in the Autonumber Format text box (rather than select the symbol in the Building Blocks scroll list). For example, if you want a Zapf Dingbat square bullet, enter the lowercase letter n, which appears as () in that font. To find the character that corresponds to the bullet symbol you want, see the character set for that font (see the online manual FrameMaker Character Sets for the character sets for the Symbol and Zapf Dingbats font). 3. Click the tab symbol (\t) in the Building Blocks scroll list or enter spaces. Note: You may have to use special codes to enter characters such as nonbreaking spaces or em spaces. For information, see Appendix A, "Typing in Dialog Boxes." 4. In the Character Format scroll list, click the bullet character format that you created. 5. Click Apply to Selection. HTH. David Spreadbury Sr. Technical Writer -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Nina Rogers Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 2:11 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Special character as bullet I want to create a paragraph style for bullets, but I want to use a pointing finger instead of a traditional black dot for the bullet. I'm in Framemaker 7 (unstructured), and my beloved Framemaker 7 guide says, "Another way to set up bullets involves taking advantage of the character formatting that's available. You can, for example create a character format that applies Zapf Dingbats or Wingdings font, and then use one of the dingbats or wingdings to make a special bullet (such as diamonds or pointing hands)." This is exactly what I want to do! Unfortunately, the paragraph ends there and doesn't explain how to do it. :-( I have the Character_Sets.pdf file open from my Online Manuals directory, and it looks like the pointing hand is the dingbats graphic for Hex code \x2b. (If, that is, I'm reading this right, which may not be the case.) But that's also the hex code for the "plus" sign. I can create a bullet that uses that plus sign, but I don't know how to make the jump to the pointing hand. I guess I could create a character style for dingbats and manually type the character for the pointing hand ... but then I would need to change the font manually (I think) for the rest of the text. My question: How do I create a paragraph style that will make the hand appear as a bullet, but will allow me to type any additional text in my usual font (in this case, Times New Roman)? I'm sure I could figure this out eventually, but it's Friday and my brain is fried ... and I really want to get this format in place before I leave today. Thanks so much for your help. Nina Rogers (still feeling like a Framemaker newbie after all these years) ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Adobe information on conditional text enhancements in 8.x / 9.x, feedback, compatibility issues
Melissa, One such document on the BOOLEAN conditional text feature is documented in an article by Sarah O'Keefe and can be found at http://www.adobe.com/devnet/framemaker/articles/fm8_single_sourcing.html. If you do a web search for "framemaker 8 boolean", without the double-quotes, you will get a log of hits that explain the Frame 8 features. I tried it with "framemaker 9 boolean" and got almost as many. Between these you should be able to gather sufficient justification for upgrading to frame 9. I am running 7.2, 8, and an eval of 9 and haven't found any issues when saving as a previous version, a 9 document back to 8, back to 7.2. The big issue there is that any 9=specific features will be dropped when going to 8, and 8=specific features are dropped when going to 7.2, which should be expected. HTH, David Spreadbury Sr. Technical Writer -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Melissa Clark Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 6:30 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Adobe information on conditional text enhancements in 8.x / 9.x, feedback, compatibility issues Hi, I'm currently using Adobe FrameMaker 7.2. I'd like to upgrade to Adobe FrameMaker 9.x but am seeking more information first (for upgrade justification to management). I seem to recall that there was a whitepaper or other explanation type of document (written by Adobe) that described the BOOLEAN style conditional text setting enhancements that were done in FM 8.x. Does anyone happen to know where I can get that document (or another similar one applicable to 9.x?)? Does anyone know whether FM documents are completely compatible (open fine without down saving) between 8.x and 9.x? I seem to recall there's an incompatibility issue (which means files have to be down saved) between 5.x and 7.x and again between 7.x and 9.x but am wondering if the same issue exists between 8.x and 9.x. I'd also appreciate any general feedback (positive OR negative) that people want to share on FM 9.x. Thanks, Melissa ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Strategy for Handling Conditional Text
I have been following this thread with interest. I, personally believe that conditional text would solve your problem, but, I was recently involved in documenting a software application that was targeted for Windows and Unix. The client did not want to use conditional text. So, we were left with creating separate sections for Unix and Windows, only where there were functional differences. This primarily occurred with installation and maintenance, i.e., backup, restore, type procedures. Our solution was to document the platform-specific procedures consistently in the same order. The installation section would document the Unix-specific procedures followed by the Windows procedures. The same was true whenever this situation arose. The headings were, usually, identical except to refer to the platform; "Installing on Unix" followed by "Installing on Windows". I worked out very nice. The big advantage of doing it this way is production of one document instead of two, which made follow-on maintenance was much easier; only one book to muck with. Just a second opinion. David Spreadbury Sr. Technical Writer -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Bill Swallow Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 4:27 PM To: Bernard Aschwanden (Publishing Smarter) Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Strategy for Handling Conditional Text > That means think a lot about what you write. With one client we took the approach of a Mac and a PC version of manuals, but we had, > say, 10 chapters that had the same info. We avoided product names. We asked the developers to match the product and dialogs. Then we > wrote generic. Instead of "on the PC, click FOO to open the Windows Explore" and "on the Mac, click YADDA to open the Finder" or > whatever, we wrote "Open your file browser", and similar things. The assumption was that the user would either know how to do it, > look it up in the chapter on Mac Specific Functions and Tips, or ask a person "how do I do *this*". Generally I agree, but I think in this specific case the application that Joe is documenting really varies between Linux and Windows. At least, that's what I gathered from: "Originally, I was told that these differences would eventually go away and that the user experience would be identical on both operating systems. This hasn't happened. The differences have grown." In this case, I think it's best to *advocate* for the generic approach but until it's achieved on the application side conditions are likely the best solution. As the applications become more similar, the conditioned document can be generalized and conditions removed for those general portions. -- Bill Swallow ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Best online source for Adobe Technical Communication Suite Training
Jan, Have you tried Adobe's online test drive site (http://www.runaware.com/clients/adobe/techsuite/)? David Spreadbury Sr. Technical Writer -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jan Whitacre Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 2:04 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Best online source for Adobe Technical Communication Suite Training What is the best online source for Adobe Technical Communication Suite training? I currently own Version 1.3, but am considering an upgrade. Any idea why Lynda.com doesn't offer any courses for the integrated suite? Jan Whitacre ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Request for DTP services
Dear Framers, Xlated Ltd., a multilingual software localization company, is looking for a freelance DTP service provider to work with our project managers on a per-project basis. Type of documents handled is mostly user documentation for software applications. DTP platform requested is mainly FrameMaker 7 (and later versions), using .mif or .fm files to generate PDF files based on our specifications. Additional desirable experience/platforms requested: WebWorks 9 .fm > .html compilation, InDesign, QuarkXpress, plus other platforms; experience with handling/converting graphics files in most popular formats (no artwork involved). All work is based on Windows. Languages involved are Western/Central/Eastern European. Some linguistic experience is desirable, but not mandatory. We require high accuracy, timely responsiveness, respect of deadlines. Volume expected is around 15K pages/year, so this might become an interesting opportunity for an ongoing collaboration. If interested, please send a brief description of previous experience, tools used, references and your best rates in USD per page/hour considering also high volume discounts to i...@xlated.com. Thank you Anton David Xlated ltd ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Best online source for Adobe Technical Communication Suite> Training
> What is the best online source for Adobe Technical Communication Suite > training? I currently own Version 1.3, but am considering an upgrade. Any > idea why Lynda.com doesn't offer any courses for the integrated suite? VTC.com has some on the individual programs--not all up to date, but the basic concepts are there. I cannot vouch for the quality. David Creamer IDEAS Training & Consultation http://www.IDEAStraining.com Adobe Certified Trainer for Photoshop, Illustrator, Acrobat, InDesign, InCopy, FrameMaker, Dreamweaver, Premiere, GoLive, and PageMaker Authorized Quark Training Provider Enfocus PitStop, Markzware FlightCheck, & FileMaker Authorized Trainer ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: TCS install; missing fonts
Stuart, I would wager that your maker.ini, of your previous install, was modified to recognize these "missing fonts". If you still have the old installation on your system check the [WindowsToFrameFontAliases] section of the maker.ini file. Copy the section and paste it into your current version. Oh ya, always make a copy of your existing maker.ini before changing it. HTH --- On Thu, 4/22/10, Stuart Rogers wrote: From: Stuart Rogers Subject: TCS install; missing fonts To: "'framers@lists.frameusers.com'" Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 11:28 AM Win XP SP3 FM 7.0 p579 TCS 2.0 (FM 9.0 p250) I recently installed TCS and now when I open existing .fm files in either FM 9 or FM 7, I get missing fonts messages. I have made no changes to my system's fonts, so I assume TCS has done so. So far, the "missing" fonts are simply variant names of existing fonts, e.g., "can't find Lucida Bright Semi Bold, using Lucida Bright Demi Bold". Same thing for the italic variants, etc. I searched my hard drive for "Lucida" and find dozens of copies of these font files in Program Files subfolders called \Adobe, \Java, and \Hewlett-Packard. (But XP's Search and Void Software's "Everything" search engine *don't* find the dozen or so entries that exist in C:\Windows\Fonts.) I've assumed I'm safe to use the usual method to get rid of the 'missing fonts' messages, but I'd like to know what exactly happened here and why. Anyone know? Thanks, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Online help generator using FM8
Nithin, Probably the most popular tools being used with FrameMaker are: Flare RoboHelp Mif2Go Webworks David Spreadbury Sr. Technical Writer -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Stalwarts Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 11:57 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Online help generator using FM8 Hi - Can you list me the popular publishing tools for Online help generation using Framemaker 8? - Nithin ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate Strategies)
It can be, depending on Complexity of your structure EDD Complexity of your unstructured documents Cleanliness of your unstructured documents Your ability in creating a conversion table Your patience This list is not all inclusive. David Spreadbury Sr. Technical Writer -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Matt Sullivan Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 3:24 PM To: 'Joseph Lorenzini'; 'FrameMaker Forum' Subject: RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate Strategies) While there's structured framemaker, dita, and a host of third party plugins can anyone really say its a simple, painless, and quick process to transition from unstructured framemaker to either structured or dita? Sincerely, Joseph Lorenzini ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: folder structure
Tim, I would expect that the concensus will be to create the folder structure that fits your way of thinking and what will work for your documents. Initially I would gather all of the relevant pieces into a clean structure and Bruce Foster's Archive is the tool to collect and assemble all of the pieces. One gotcha you are going to run into is cross-references. A nice thing about Archive is that it fixes them during it's slight of hand. Very useful tool that, for me anyhow, has more than paid for itself. I think it is still going for $20, but don't hold me to that. If you feel the need, then move the product specific stuff to sub-folders in the archived tree. Then you will have to rebuild all cross-references to the specific stuff manually. Links to graphics should be okay, but if graphic links to the specific stuff do break, fixing the first one should fix all for that specific product. --- On Tue, 5/18/10, Tim J. Slager wrote: From: Tim J. Slager Subject: folder structure To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" Date: Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 3:41 PM I inherited a book with chapters and files in a complex directory structure. We are changing from one version-control software to another, so now would be a good time to change the folder structure. The complex structure makes it difficult to check out all the files in a book at once. It seems to me that it would be easier to have files that are common across products in a common files folder, and to have all the rest of the .FM files for each product/FM book in a single folder, with images in an adjacent folder. I am wondering if there are recommendations for file structure, and what are the gotchas I'm likely to encounter if I move things around. Thanks. tims Tim Slager | ISD Tech Pubs | 616.494.1373 ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
anyone use the <$paratag> building block?
Greetings, Does anyone used the <$paratag> building block in a real-world cross-reference? I'd be interested in understanding how it's used out there (or whether it's used at all). Thanks /dave v. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Talk for free using jaxtr?
Framers, I got jaxtr to make international calls to other jaxtr users using local numbers. Can you please sign up, so I can call you for free using jaxtr? -David P.S. Here is the link to sign up: http://www.jaxtr.com/user/ticket?n=Tdzm31t6bi8oe&type=joininvite --- Delivered by jaxtr, Inc., 855 Oak Grove Avenue, Suite 100, Menlo Park, California 94025. To stop receiving messages from this sender go to http://www.jaxtr.com/user/reportabuse.jsp?it=Tdzm31t6bi8oe ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
batch processing of large numbers of text files?
One such option, for Windows users, is TextPad (www.textpad.com). Very useful when editing multiple ASCII files. I ue it to perform operations across a complete folder of HTML files on a regular basis. - Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Conditional Text problem on Frame 7.1 on Win XP Professional
Is there a bug or limitation regarding FrameMaker Conditional Text Tag names? I received a base document with several different conditions reflecting various model names within the same product family. Examples of tag names are: ABC2024 ABC224D ABC208 ADE208 ADE224 AFG208 and so on After setting the system to show the first ABC condition but hide the latter two, I generated Help files in Webworks but the other ABC conditions showed. In an experiment, I changed one of the conditions to ABC_208, and lo and behold, ABC_208 stayed hidden. However, ABC224D remains in the document when it shouldn't. According to this pattern, would I have to change this to ABC__224D for FM to recognize the difference? And what if I need to add additional variations to a name like ABC2024G and ABC2024F? Does Frame not recognize the difference? Hope you can help me, Thanks, David -- David Schor Senior Technical Writer MSSI - Marvell Software Solutions Israel Tel: (+972) 3 7662823 Cellular: (+972) 54 4788253 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.marvell.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Conditional Text problem on Frame 7.1 on Win XP Professional
Silly me. Turned out the Visible/Hidden settings in the Conditions dialog box were the culprit. Now I know, and I generated the help versions successfully. Thanks a million, Yves! David David Schor Senior Technical Writer MSSI - Marvell Software Solutions Israel Tel: (+972) 3 7662823 Cellular: (+972) 54 4788253 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.marvell.com On 9/4/07, Yves Barbion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi David, > > check the Show/Hide settings in WebWorks Publisher, not in FrameMaker. I > don't know which version of WebWorks you are using, but remember a bug > WebWorks 7 where the Show/Hide settings didn't work for a complete > FrameMaker book. I had to select a specific file in my WebWorks project and > set the Show/Hide settings file by file. > > Good luck. > > > -- > Yves Barbion > Documentation Architect > Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor > > > > > On 9/4/07, David Schor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Is there a bug or limitation regarding FrameMaker Conditional Text Tag > names? > > I received a base document with several different conditions > > reflecting various model names within the same product family. > > Examples of tag names are: > > > > ABC2024 > > ABC224D > > ABC208 > > ADE208 > > ADE224 > > AFG208 > > and so on > > > > After setting the system to show the first ABC condition but hide the > > latter two, I generated Help files in Webworks but the other ABC > > conditions showed. > > > > In an experiment, I changed one of the conditions to ABC_208, and lo > > and behold, ABC_208 stayed hidden. However, ABC224D remains in the > > document when it shouldn't. According to this pattern, would I have to > > change this to ABC__224D for FM to recognize the difference? > > > > And what if I need to add additional variations to a name like > > ABC2024G and ABC2024F? Does Frame not recognize the difference? > > > > Hope you can help me, > > > > Thanks, > > David > > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
re: Automatic creation of pdf files
What is wrong with using the Watched Folders feature of Acrobat Distiller. Install Distiller on the remote server and have it launch whenever the server is booted. Print your postscript files to the IN watched folder. Distiller will automatically place the PDF in the OUT watched folder. - Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
looking for conditional text scenarios
Greetings, Here at Adobe we're looking for real-world uses of conditional text. We'd be very interested in a summary of some of the interesting uses out there, including the condition tags you've defined and the output desired. We'd also like to hear of any limitations you've encountered in either Frame 7 or Frame 8. For example, you might say... "I work on a doc set that must output to print and to the web in two different versions, Mac and Windows. We've set up 6 conditions: WinPrint, WinWeb, WinBoth, MacPrint, MacWeb, and MacBoth." Many thanks. /dave valiulis Adobe systems ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Framers Digest, Vol 25, Issue 4
Hi, all; long time no post! I have an unusual question about PDF generation that I hope this list can answer. For a gaming product (role-playing, not computer), we want to be able to embed ad banners which are refreshed every time the PDF is opened, every time a page is turned, in the footer of the book. Those refreshes would pull the banners from a standard ad revolver (like Google Ads), thereby generating an ad view with a unique IP (per user/reader), thereby generating ad revenue to pay for the free PDF hosting (with maybe some left over for the author). The first idea I had is much more limited: have the PDF distilled by the server for each download, which would embed whatever ads are queued in the ad revolver, BUT the ads would then be static and fixed PLUS the ad request would always be from the server doing the distillation (i.e. worth less revenue; possibly even none). The second idea is more "active," but it doesn't solve the sever-only ad request problem: I thought of having the footer contain an embedded, URL-referenced image on the server, which is refreshed (server-side) after each HTTP request, thus changing the ad every page (good) but which would result in the requests always being made from the same server (bad to worthless). In summary: I need a way to embed active, URL-referenced content which causes an HTTP request for an ad banner FROM the end-user machine IP, tagged such that it credits the PDF-hosting author (for payment), EVERY page turn (i.e. every page render in Reader). Impossible? David Artman ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
trouble adding extra line to master page header
I need to modify a master page header. The modification includes adding a 2nd line to the header and inserting the book name variable. I can expand the background text frame and insert the variable. The problem is that the blue line that was below the 1st header line now exists between the two header lines. I need to delete it, but I can't seem to grab it. Any tips? David Kuhn Technical Writer 09-776-1956 (desk) 054-3078987 (mobile) This message and the information contained herein is proprietary and confidential and subject to the Amdocs policy statement, you may review at http://www.amdocs.com/email_disclaimer.asp ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Upgrade Anger to Tech Comm Suite
> why did they make me spend all my money. Can you explain how they MADE you spend you money again? Full Suite Price: $1599 US Full FrameMaker Price: $899 Suite Upgrade: $999 Call Adobe and talk to a manager to see if you can upgrade from your current Frame 8. (Since the Frame in the Suite is slightly modified, technically your version is a "previous" version). That way, you are only out $300. David Creamer I.D.E.A.S. - Results-Oriented Training http://www.IDEAStraining.com Adobe Certified Trainer & Expert (since 1995) Authorized Quark Training Provider (since 1988) Markzware, Enfocus, FileMaker Certified ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Help with Running Headers
I am running into a problem inserting a running header. It is for a book organized into parts. One of the master pages must include a header row containing the Part number and Part name above the Chapter number and Chapter name. I tried to insert a Running Header 5, just changing the definition that exists from <$paratext[H1_Heading1]> to <$paratext[Part]>. There is already a Part paragraph format defined, but it exists only in the Part document type, not the Chapter document type. But when I switch from the Master Pages view to the Body Pages view, this line does not appear at all. David Kuhn Technical Writer 09-776-1956 (desk) 054-3078987 (mobile) This message and the information contained herein is proprietary and confidential and subject to the Amdocs policy statement, you may review at http://www.amdocs.com/email_disclaimer.asp ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
OT: Acrobat Displays Banner Off-Screen
Running into a wierd problem which seems to only appear on one or four systems. All four systems running Acrobat 8.1.1 on Windows XP SP2. PDFs are being created from FrameMaker 7.2 with Distiller 8. If I open a PDF on my system, the PDF displays fine. Banner page displays within the viewable area of my monitor. If the user who is experiencing the problem opens the same PDF, the monitor display has the Acrobat banner up under the top-most region of the display. Clicking the bottom edge of the displayed PDF drops the banner down enough to grab it and manually position it correctly. Any ideas what could be causing this behavior? Is there a specific Preferences setting in Acrobat that could be causing this? - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Quark versus FrameMaker
> I have a client who has just been acquired. They want me to rebrand their > technical documentation (currently in Word) to comply with their new brand. I > suggested FrameMaker, but they are pushing Quark. I alway thought of Quark as > more appropriate for designers that do brochures, etc. > > Has anyone used Quark for technical documentation? I would appreciate any > advice/feedback on using this tool to create technical documentation. I guess > what I am really looking for is information to sell them on FrameMaker over > Quark. > This was a questions I answered recently for Layers Magazine--it concerns InDesign and FrameMaker, but I will discuss QuarkXPress at the end: Q: I¹m trying to decide between InDesign and FrameMaker for producing my books. Any advice? A: Both programs are very good for producing books, but generally, InDesign is better graphically, while FrameMaker is better in some specialized (but important) areas. For example, Frame has conditional text (hide/show text), multiple indices, more advanced XML support, track changes*, cross-referencing**, document compare, built-in equation editor**, cross-column headlines, and table footnotes. InDesign excels in the graphics area, including native Illustrator and Photoshop import with full transparency support, built-in transparency and Photoshop-like effects, the standard Adobe pen tool, color management, multi-media support, and better PDF export. Features that are more-or-less equal include table styles, variables, numbered lists, anchored graphics, and overall text formatting. I should also mention that InDesign is cross-platform, while FrameMaker not available on the Mac. *Available in InDesign using InCopy **Available in InDesign as third-party plug-in Comparing QuarkXPress to InDesign... Quark's tables are very limited, it does not do numbered lists or footnotes natively, it's text formatting/editing is not as capable, and it does not have variables (or any of the above mentioned Frame features). This comparison is not meant to be complete. Feel free to contact me if you have any other questions about the three programs. David Creamer I.D.E.A.S. - Results-Oriented Training http://www.IDEAStraining.com Adobe Certified Trainer & Expert in FrameMaker and InDesign Authorized Quark Training Provider (since 1988) ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Quark versus FrameMaker
> Actually that is not strictly correct. There are a wide range of > variables that can be used in QXP for number of defined purposes and > if you are using Quark Tags (somewhat similar in its execution to MIF) > the range is much wider. However the functionality built into it is > not as extensive as FMs. Are you referring to XPress tags, Synchronized Text/Shared Content, or XML tags? XPress tags, for the most part, are for inserting codes for formatting and indexing info. As far as I know, it does not have a feature that works similar to the FrameMaker or InDesign variables. Shared Content is useful, but not the same way as Frame/ID variables. Text content is for an entire Item (a.k.a. Frame or Object), not for in-line text. If XML, the same general process can also work with Frame and InDesign. Can you clarify your usage of Quark Tags as variables? David Creamer I.D.E.A.S. - Results-Oriented Training http://www.IDEAStraining.com Adobe Certified Trainer & Expert (since 1995) Authorized Quark Training Provider (since 1988) Markzware, Enfocus, FileMaker Certified ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Quark versus FrameMaker
On Linda Lecomte at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/30/07 8:36 AM: > Thanks David. This was helpful and I probably will have more questions. I do > have two right now: > What do you mean by Quark does not do numbered lists or footnotes natively. > Also, is outsourcing this project to you an option. I might consider that if > they insist on Quark. Please let me know when you have a chance. Thanks! The are third-party XTensions (plug-ins): Gluon.com Pro for Bullets & Numbers VirginaSystems.com for Cross-Reference Generator, Figure and Table Numbering, and Foonote/Endnote Management. David Creamer I.D.E.A.S. - Results-Oriented Training http://www.IDEAStraining.com Adobe Certified Trainer & Expert (since 1995) Authorized Quark Training Provider (since 1988) Markzware, Enfocus, FileMaker Certified ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Quark versus FrameMaker
> If I may, a quick question about InDesign. Can InDesign import xml > and have the information act like it does in Frame. > Background: > We use Frame as part of our software we have designed. This software > does marketing and is also able to export and then import into Frame > to create large Industrial Catalogs. Very technical with images. We > can also export and import into InDesign. However when we autoflow a > stream of data (data consisting of feature information, table > ordering information and an image) the autoflow is just one big text > block. You can't tell one product to straddle while another to fit in > column, etc., like you do with Frame. > So I teach our clients to drag the individual pieces that make up the > data into the InDesign template and individually layout their pages. > I think there is way to have an automated import of data act like > Frame in InDesign, we just haven't scratched at it enough. > Is this possible? InDesign can import and work with XML data similar to FrameMaker, but I don't think ID handles it as well as Frame (yet). ID does not do straddled text like Frame, so while you could automate text, a table, or a graphic being imported into an anchored frame/object, the type would not flow the same as it does in Frame. (ID flows top-to-bottom, left-to-right; Frame will split the flow above-and-below the straddled element.) David Creamer I.D.E.A.S. - Results-Oriented Training http://www.IDEAStraining.com Adobe Certified Trainer & Expert (since 1995) Authorized Quark Training Provider (since 1988) Markzware, Enfocus, FileMaker Certified ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FrameMaker XML inDesign XML imports
> What we do here is take let's say 100 products which include the > image, descriptions, and all the corresponding sizes or colors in a > table, and export from a filemaker database and then import into > Frame. Frame streams all the information into the template -- all 100 > products -- where we then lay them out in the template. I can then > take each individual product and apply a straddle here, resize a > table there, etc. Each product is its own entity within frame. > If I do the exact same import into InDesign, all 100 products become > just one large text block and they lose their individuality and thus > I lose the ability to design each prouct. > Can that individuality somehow be maintained with ID??? Plugins > perhaps??? > With InDesign, you might want to take a slightly different approach and look at EmSoftware.com plug-ins: InData and InCatalog. (InCatalog can even maintain a "live" link to your database.) David Creamer I.D.E.A.S. - Results-Oriented Training http://www.IDEAStraining.com Adobe Certified Trainer & Expert (since 1995) Authorized Quark Training Provider (since 1988) Markzware, Enfocus, FileMaker Certified ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Quark versus FrameMaker
> Quark does not > seem to have features for creating books which makes making a global > change in the document very difficult. Quark, InDesign, and FrameMaker all have a similar book feature. There are differences in what they can sync however, based on what features they provide. For example, Quark cannot sync master pages, while Frame and IDCS3 can. >There are a number of other > document-specific features that I use in FrameMaker that Quark just > doesn't do, or doesn't do as well. True enough. David Creamer I.D.E.A.S. - Results-Oriented Training http://www.IDEAStraining.com Adobe Certified Trainer & Expert (since 1995) Authorized Quark Training Provider (since 1988) Markzware, Enfocus, FileMaker Certified ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Problems importing Illustrator files
If you are using transparency in Illustrator, I would save your graphics out as either EPS or PDF 1.3 for FrameMaker. EPS and PDF 1.3 do not support transparency, so the art will be flattened. As long as you use the default settings, it will include the original AI file, so you can open the file to edit it later. Be sure to use the High Resolution settings when flattening. If you use any higher PDF settings (during a Save As), the PDF will maintain any transparency and may not work properly. For older programs, EPS will work just as good, since the programs usually convert the PDF into an EPS internally. Plus, it is easier to manage in AI. David Creamer I.D.E.A.S. - Results-Oriented Training http://www.IDEAStraining.com Adobe Certified Trainer & Expert (since 1995) Authorized Quark Training Provider (since 1988) Markzware, Enfocus, FileMaker Certified ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Recommended format for importing vector graphics
All, My department generates vector graphics in Illustrator CS2 and imports them into Frame 7.2 as EPS. Recently, we've considered importing our graphics as PDF because it (1) provides a full preview instead of a TIFF preview and (2) the Illustrator PDF file size is smaller than the EPS file size. Are there any other advantages or disadvantages to importing Illustrator graphics as PDF instead of EPS that we're not considering? Thanks in advance, David Bills Melbourne, FL ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
corrupted paragraph format from 7.2 to 8
I have a problem when someone with version 8 uses the template I created with version 7.2. The Bullet level two does not appear as a round bullet. It appears as an open quotation mark. Any ideas what is causing that and how to fix it? Currently, she has fixed the file by copying in a bullet from a file that is OK. But I'd still like to get at the root of the matter. David Kuhn Technical Writer, PBG +1.972.9.776.1956 (desk) +1.972.54.307.8987 (mobile) AMDOCS > CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE SYSTEMS INNOVATION This message and the information contained herein is proprietary and confidential and subject to the Amdocs policy statement, you may review at http://www.amdocs.com/email_disclaimer.asp ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: corrupted paragraph format from 7.2 to 8
Thanks, Art. I'm not actually sure where to pick the character. In the Numbering tab of paragraph designer, Autonumber Format is selected and \t²\t is showing in the building blocks field. When I have created new paragraph tags in the past for which I needed bullets, I usually select an existing paragraph format that already has a bullet and then modify the other properties. David Kuhn Technical Writer, PBG +1.972.9.776.1956 (desk) +1.972.54.307.8987 (mobile) AMDOCS > CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE SYSTEMS INNOVATION -Original Message- From: Art Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 5:23 PM To: David Kuhn Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: corrupted paragraph format from 7.2 to 8 Most likely, whatever character you used for the bullet in 7.x has a different glyph attached to it in the Unicode supporting FM 8.x. "Fixing" it would involve picking a new character from a font with a lower mapping number that's the same in both 7.x and 8.x, such as the default bullet. Cheers, Art On Jan 14, 2008 4:39 AM, David Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a problem when someone with version 8 uses the template I created > with version 7.2. > The Bullet level two does not appear as a round bullet. It appears as an > open quotation mark. > Any ideas what is causing that and how to fix it? > > Currently, she has fixed the file by copying in a bullet from a file > that is OK. > But I'd still like to get at the root of the matter. > > David Kuhn > Technical Writer, PBG > > > +1.972.9.776.1956 (desk) > +1.972.54.307.8987 (mobile) > > AMDOCS > CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE SYSTEMS INNOVATION > > -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 This message and the information contained herein is proprietary and confidential and subject to the Amdocs policy statement, you may review at http://www.amdocs.com/email_disclaimer.asp ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: corrupted paragraph format from 7.2 to 8
Thanks for the tips. Unfortunately, I have no time to try it out at the moment due to tough deadlines. I'll let you know. David Kuhn Technical Writer, PBG +1.972.9.776.1956 (desk) +1.972.54.307.8987 (mobile) AMDOCS > CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE SYSTEMS INNOVATION -Original Message- From: Art Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 6:10 PM To: David Kuhn Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: corrupted paragraph format from 7.2 to 8 David, Fred's suggestion would certainly work. And because it's a secondary bullet, you could flag that with an increased indent and/or smaller font size on the bullet itself (applied with a character tag). Cheers, Art On Jan 14, 2008 10:59 AM, Fred Ridder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > David Kuhn asked> Thanks, Art. I'm not actually sure where to pick the > character. > > In the Numbering tab of paragraph designer, Autonumber Format is selected > > and \t²\t is showing in the building blocks field. > > The building block for the standard bullet character is \b, which happens > to be the very first itme in the buliding block pick list in the Paragraph > Designer. You can certainly specify some alternative character, but that > means you'll need to deal with the kind of character mapping issues that > you are now seeing. > > > When I have created new paragraph tags in the past for which I needed > > bullets, > > I usually select an existing paragraph format that already has a bullet and > > then > > modify the other properties. > > IMO this is not a good practice unless you fully understand how the formatting > is defined and implemented for the underlying style. If you don't have that > understanding (or do not take the time to actually look at all its properties > before cloning it) you wind up perpetuating earlier ad hoc or idiosyncratic > formatting decisions. For example, it is more customary to control the > horizontal position of the bullet by setting the first line indent rather than > using a second tab stop. If you look at the "Bulleted" style in the default > new > document (i.e., blank page) template, you'll see that the autonumbering > is \b\t (a bullet aligned to the first line indent, followed by a tab) rather > than \t\b\t, which would require two tab stops to be defined on the Basic > tab of the Paragraph Designer. > > Fred Ridder > > > > _ > Watch "Cause Effect," a show about real people making a real difference. > http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/MTV/?source=text_watchcause > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 This message and the information contained herein is proprietary and confidential and subject to the Amdocs policy statement, you may review at http://www.amdocs.com/email_disclaimer.asp ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Index question
A couple of simple troubleshooting steps: Is the format you're referring to exactly named "Heading1" in the template? Remember that these should be written identically. Also, check the Paragraph numbering settings in the book and remember to update the book's numbering before generating the index. David -- David Schor Technical Writing Consultancy & Services Cellular: (+972) 54 4788253 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Jan 16, 2008 7:18 AM, Whites <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Framers > Using FM7.2 and WinXP > I thought this would be easy, but . . . > I'm making an index of names. Rather than have the index list the > chapter and page with the usual <$chapnum>-<$pagenum> variables in > the reference page index setup, I want the index to show which > heading they appear under (i.e. which section of the chapter) since I > don't really care about the exact page. When I use <$paranumonly > [Heading1]> variable in the reference page I get no number at all in > the index, just a hyperlink. Is there some reason why this shouldn't > work? > > > TIA for any suggestions > > Will White > ViaLogy LLC > +++ > There's the right way and the wrong way. > Then there's my way - which is like the wrong way, but faster. > +++ > > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dsch.tw%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Working with Images
> So a question is what format, JPG, BMP, PNG, GIF saves the cleanest picture? Personally, I would not use JPEG as it tends to artifact round the type, making the image harder to read. PNG or TIFF would be my first choices, GIF as a third choice depending on the required color depth. David Creamer I.D.E.A.S. - Results-Oriented Training http://www.IDEAStraining.com Adobe Certified Trainer & Expert (since 1995) Authorized Quark Training Provider (since 1988) Markzware, Enfocus, FileMaker Certified ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
pagination dilemma
I had to adjust our template to add a line to the header (recently one was also added to the footer), resulting in a two line header and a two line footer. The problem is that I need to keep the text area the same size without stealing from the margins. I had tested this on body text only and the same number of lines fits on the page without a problem. But I noticed than when you have other formatting, such as a lot of code, the last line on the page practically sits on the line separating the text from the footer. Because I've only packaged one document this way, I went through and did a manual adjustment by applying Keep with Next whenever the last text line looks too close to the separation line. Any ideas how to make the impossible possible? Is there any way to set the minimum space that needs to exist between the line and the footer? Any other solutions? David Kuhn Technical Writer, PBG +1.972.9.776.1956 (desk) +1.972.54.307.8987 (mobile) AMDOCS > CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE SYSTEMS INNOVATION This message and the information contained herein is proprietary and confidential and subject to the Amdocs policy statement, you may review at http://www.amdocs.com/email_disclaimer.asp ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: pagination dilemma
Hi David K, Can't you move the footer text box (on the Master Pages) down a short distance, either by dragging or by increasing the Offset From Top in the Text Frame Properties? David S -- David Schor Technical Writing Consultancy & Services 054 478 8253 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Feb 3, 2008 12:36 PM, David Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I had to adjust our template to add a line to the header (recently one > was also added to the footer), resulting in a two line header and a two > line footer. > The problem is that I need to keep the text area the same size without > stealing from the margins. > I had tested this on body text only and the same number of lines fits on > the page without a problem. > But I noticed than when you have other formatting, such as a lot of > code, the last line on the page practically sits on the line separating > the text from the footer. > Because I've only packaged one document this way, I went through and did > a manual adjustment by applying Keep with Next whenever the last text > line looks too close to the separation line. > Any ideas how to make the impossible possible? > Is there any way to set the minimum space that needs to exist between > the line and the footer? > Any other solutions? > > David Kuhn > Technical Writer, PBG > > > +1.972.9.776.1956 (desk) > +1.972.54.307.8987 (mobile) > > AMDOCS > CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE SYSTEMS INNOVATION > > > > This message and the information contained herein is proprietary and > confidential and subject to the Amdocs policy statement, > you may review at http://www.amdocs.com/email_disclaimer.asp > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dsch.tw%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Working with Images
Regarding resolution... If capturing display boxes, you cannot control how many PPI there are as they are programs in at X number of pixels by Y number of pixels. Resolution (ppi) is meaningless as it does not change total number of pixels. The only time you could control that is when capturing an entire screen and you adjust your overall monitor resolution. I would leave them as the default resolution--adding more is not generally going to improve the image and may even soften the edges of the type. If I need more resolution, say for preflight reasons, I would use nearest neighbor. David Creamer I.D.E.A.S. - Results-Oriented Training http://www.IDEAStraining.com Adobe Certified Trainer & Expert (since 1995) Authorized Quark Training Provider (since 1988) Markzware, Enfocus, FileMaker Certified ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Working with Images
> How can SnagIt capture an image at a higher resolution than what the screen > is set to? A 20" screen at 1280 x 1024, for example, is 96 DPI. How do you > get 200 DPI out of that? Screen size (20") is meaningless, only the monitor resolution counts. Again, referring to my last post, monitor resolution only counts if capturing an entire screen. A 1280x1024 image at 96ppi is 13.3x10.6 inches; at 200ppi it is 6.4x5.12 inches. As you can see, a full-screen capture is usually more than adequate for most publications. Dialog boxes, however, are another story. If a dialog box is only 400x300 pixels, it would only be 2x1.5 inches at 200ppi. Generally, it is better to run the image at the default resolution (96ppi in this case). One can, however, add extra resolution to the image, but that is usually detrimental to the quality of the image. If I had to add extra resolution, I would avoid bicubic interpolations and using nearest neighbor. David Creamer I.D.E.A.S. - Results-Oriented Training http://www.IDEAStraining.com Adobe Certified Trainer & Expert (since 1995) Authorized Quark Training Provider (since 1988) Markzware, Enfocus, FileMaker Certified ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Working with Images
On Dennis Brunnenmeyer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 2/5/08 11:36 AM: > Rant begins... > > > First of all, display devices, whether printers or monitors, have an upper > limit on their ability to resolve (print or display) image detail, which by > the way is what "resolution" is a measure of...meaningful detail. The best my > aging but faithful laser printer can do is 600 dpi, while my uppity LCD > monitor can display up to 100 dpi, with its1600 x 1200 native resolution on an > LCD panel that is exactly 16" wide x 12" tall." You are totally ignoring line screen (aka LPI) when printing. Using the formula will determine the quality of the output on a black-only laser printer: (Output Resolution/Screen Frequency)^2 [squared] +1 = total number of gray levels available to the printer. So a 600dpi printer at 100 LPI gives you only 37 levels of gray. For photos, you need around 200 levels of gray to look natural. For commercial offset printing, one should use the following guideline: PPI= LPI x 1.5. (Some use LPI x 2, but 1.5 is normally enough.) > You cannot see nor capture > anything and create a screenshot image with higher resolution than the display > device.. I think I said something similar to that. > > Most of you seem to appreciate this, but some of you think you can improve > resolution by artificial means. No, you cannot. I think I said something similar to that. > > A true measure of the resolution of an image is the original size of the image > in total pixels, assuming it is true to begin with. I think I said something similar to that. . >[Unfortunately, since the graphics card's resolution doesn't > match the native resolution of the LCD panel, the on-screen picture is not as > crisp as it could be. This is a result of "aliasing" artifacts, but that's a > topic for a different thread.] I believe you are confusing what you see on screen to what is actually being captured. > > >. If I set the capture "resolution" to 160 ppi, then the > image will be half the physical size as it appeared on the screen, BUT IT WILL > HAVE EXACTLY THE SAME NUMBER OF PIXELS. The resolution has not be improved, as > no more detail has been added. I think I said something similar to that. > > No new detail nor > image improvement can be added by interpolation. I think I said something similar to that. However, I suspect you have not used nearest neighbor interpolation too much. > > I have no idea what David meant by this statement: "Again, referring to my > last post, monitor resolution only counts if > capturing an entire screen." I thought it was pretty clear. 1280x1040 is the same amount to X/Y pixel data on a 17 inch monitor, a 19 inch monitor, or a 20 inch monitor. > > Flame away... I try not to flame or rant as I think it dilutes the message and reflects poorly on the messenger David Creamer I.D.E.A.S. - Results-Oriented Training http://www.IDEAStraining.com Adobe Certified Trainer & Expert (since 1995) Authorized Quark Training Provider (since 1988) Markzware, Enfocus, FileMaker Certified ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Working with Images
On Dennis Brunnenmeyer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 2/5/08 3:18 PM: > > This was not an attack on you. Please see my remarks embedded below. Hmmm... You quote my email and refer to me by name in your self-described rant. OK... > > I was referring to true image resolution. By resampling to a higher > pixel-squared number, you have not increased the resolution of the image. No > new detail is revealed that wasn't there before. I was not arguing that point--in fact, I stated the same basic thing. Why make it an issue? > >> I think I said something similar to that. > I think you're probably right about that. I'll that that non-committal answer as "you're right". > > No, you said this: "One can, however, add extra resolution to the image, but > that is usually detrimental > to the quality of the image." > > Only the last half of this sentence is correct. Huh... One can add extra resolution to an image (regardless if it is good for the image or not). That is a fact. Therefore, the entire sentence is correct. How could you say otherwise? >> I believe you are confusing what you see on screen to what is actually being >> captured. > > Actually, I'm not. The artifacts I see due to pixel aliasing on the screen are > just annoying visual impairments specific to the display technology and not an > indication of the quality of the image itself. First, I believe we agree that LCD monitors should always be run at their native resolution (usually the maximum setting, but not always). However, a screen capture taken at a non-native resolution will have the same quality at one taken at the native resolution when viewed at actual size in Photoshop. The "fuzzy" appearance is on-screen artifacts only and will not affected the use in a document. Now granted, this is on the systems I have tested, so your mileage may vary. >> I thought it was pretty clear. 1280x1040 is the same amount to X/Y pixel >> data on a 17 inch monitor, a 19 inch monitor, or a 20 inch monitor. > That's very true, but that's irrelevant to what I quoted above. Your sentence > makes no sense. We are talking about display pixels--1280 pixels is 1280 pixels regardless of how "big" the pixels are by way of monitor size. This was going back to my statement that "Screen size (20") is meaningless, only the monitor resolution counts." (Just to be sure, I am NOT talking about true monitor pixels, meaning down to RGB elements.) David Creamer I.D.E.A.S. http://www.IDEAStraining.com Results-Oriented Training & Consulting for Print & Web since 1990 Over 28 years Publishing, 14 years Web, and 10 years Video experience Contributing Editor for Layers Magazine Adobe Certified Trainer and Expert (since 1995) Adobe Certified Master; Print & Web Specialist Adobe Certified for InDesign, Photoshop, Illustrator, Acrobat, FrameMaker, InCopy, PageMaker, GoLive, Dreamweaver, & Premiere Authorized Quark Training Consultant (since 1988) QuarkXPress 6&7 Certified Expert - Print & Web Authorized Markzware FlightCheck Trainer Enfocus Certified Trainer (PitStop Pro/Server, Instant PDF) Authorized Microsoft Publisher Service Provider Authorized FileMaker Trainer Apple Consultants Network member (since 1990) Apple Certified Help Desk Specialist Southern CA, Arizona, and at your location ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Working with Images
There seems to be some confusing on the use of the term "adding resolution" when referring to images. Resolution is simply a measure of the amount of pixels (X/Y counts) and a pixel-per-inch (ppi) setting. Resolution CAN be increased--period. This is typically done in a program like Photoshop. (Whether one should do this for screen captures is another issue and not the point.) The confusion among some is whether this is adding "real" pixel data, therefore enhancing the detail of the image. It is not. Detail, or real pixel data, can only come at the time of initial capture. Some quasi-experts were claiming that resolution cannot be added at all, but what they were really referring to is detail by means of original pixel data. Note: Adding resolution is not the same as re-assigning the ppi but keeping the same X/Y pixel amounts. To repeat my original advice: 1] Do not use JPEG format, but PNG, TIFF, or possibly GIF. 2] Do not add resolution, but use as is. IF--and only IF--additional resolution is necessary for prepress purposes, use nearest-neighbor interpolation, not bicubic. 3] Monitor display setting (aka monitor resolution) is only important when capturing entire screen layouts, not for individual dialog boxes. David Creamer I.D.E.A.S. - Results-Oriented Training http://www.IDEAStraining.com Adobe Certified Trainer & Expert (since 1995) Authorized Quark Training Provider (since 1988) Markzware, Enfocus, FileMaker Certified ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: help needed with cleanfm batch file
I delete unwanted files by running a search and deleting the found files. 1.Press Start >> Search >> For Files or Folders >> All files and folders >> All or part of the file name. 2.Type *.backup.* in the text box. 3.Press Search. After finding all the files, highlight and delete them. That way, you find and delete them all, regardless of location. Repeat the procedure for each type of file to delete. Regards, David Eason LSI Corporation Contract Technical Writer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 303-544-5433 Cell: 303-941-3512 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Foster Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 10:35 AM To: INTERNET:framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: help needed with cleanfm batch file Dave, I don't have the batch file, but you can delete unwanted files as follows: 1. Open a command prompt by choosing Start > Run, type cmd.exe, and click OK. 2. In the command prompt, go to the directory you want to clean up using the cd command. 3. To delete backup and lock files, execute the commands: del *.backup.* del *.lck You can put these in a batch file and run that, too. Regards, Bruce Message text written by INTERNET:framers@lists.frameusers.com >Message: 21 Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:57:15 +1300 From: Dave Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: help needed with cleanfm batch file To: FrameUsers List Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Folks A month or 3 ago someone posted a batch file to clean up Frame's backup and lock files from a folder. I kept a copy of the batch file code, but now that I want to use it, I can't find the instructions on how to use it. My manual has expanded and now it is becoming tedious to manually delete all those .backup files. Any help would be appreciated. Cheers Dave< ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/david.eason%40lsi.co m Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
boilerplate text on reference pages
I currently have 4 types of notes (in tables) in my template: Note, Caution, Tip, and Development. I need to add a 5th that looks the same as the Development table, using the same icon, but with the text in the second column displaying Implementation rather than Development. I tried selecting the table and renaming it. Then I created a Paragraph tag that Inserts the Implementation text. The result is that I insert the table and the Development table appears. I select the second column and select the Implementation paragraph tag. If I click the icon itself, it still says Development. Obviously, this is a workaround rather than the correct solution. I know the answer lies in the reference page, but I can't figure this out. The reference pages contain lines with two frames side by side: one with the icon, the other with the text, such as Development: with room for the actual note. But I don't out how the two separate frames are connected. And I don't see anything in the Table Designer to assist me. David Kuhn Technical Writer, PBG +1.972.9.776.1956 (desk) +1.972.54.307.8987 (mobile) AMDOCS > CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE SYSTEMS INNOVATION This message and the information contained herein is proprietary and confidential and subject to the Amdocs policy statement, you may review at http://www.amdocs.com/email_disclaimer.asp ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: boilerplate text on reference pages
I'm not sure, I never used it. I just searched the help for the topic and came up with nothing. I saw that the Development paragraph tag includes the text Development:\ in the Numbering tab. So in trying to create the Implementation table, I changed this text. Even though I created the new table style in the catalog. Oh, I stumbled on the answer. I forgot to update all. Now when I insert more tables, at least the Implementation text appears. The icon text when you hover over it still says development, unfortunately, but I think I can live with it unless someone has a clever solution. (I'm sure you do.) David Kuhn Technical Writer, PBG +1.972.9.776.1956 (desk) +1.972.54.307.8987 (mobile) AMDOCS > CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE SYSTEMS INNOVATION From: Rene Stephenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 5:31 PM To: David Kuhn; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: boilerplate text on reference pages Could this be a job for AutoText...? Rene L. Stephenson - Original Message ---- From: David Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 10:11:19 AM Subject: boilerplate text on reference pages I currently have 4 types of notes (in tables) in my template: Note, Caution, Tip, and Development. I need to add a 5th that looks the same as the Development table, using the same icon, but with the text in the second column displaying Implementation rather than Development. I tried selecting the table and renaming it. Then I created a Paragraph tag that Inserts the Implementation text. The result is that I insert the table and the Development table appears. I select the second column and select the Implementation paragraph tag. If I click the icon itself, it still says Development. Obviously, this is a workaround rather than the correct solution. I know the answer lies in the reference page, but I can't figure this out. The reference pages contain lines with two frames side by side: one with the icon, the other with the text, such as Development: with room for the actual note. But I don't out how the two separate frames are connected. And I don't see anything in the Table Designer to assist me. David Kuhn Technical Writer, PBG +1.972.9.776.1956 (desk) +1.972.54.307.8987 (mobile) AMDOCS > CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE SYSTEMS INNOVATION This message and the information contained herein is proprietary and confidential and subject to the Amdocs policy statement, you may review at http://www.amdocs.com/email_disclaimer.asp ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rinnie1%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. This message and the information contained herein is proprietary and confidential and subject to the Amdocs policy statement, you may review at http://www.amdocs.com/email_disclaimer.asp ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Seeking effective doc compare solution for Vers A. vs. Vers D
Have you looked at creating PDFs of ver A and ver D. Then using Acrobat to do the compare? - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Globally changing cross-reference styles
There was a change in the style used for all our headings, from numbered sections to non-numbered. One results is that we need to reapply all the cross-reference styles. So far we have been doing it manually. Am I missing something? Is there a way to globally change cross-reference styles without purposely corrupted the template by redefining the existing Styles. If any Adobe people are listening: The options in the Find dropdown list are great. But the Change options are very limited. Shouldn't the Change options mirror the Find options? David Kuhn Technical Writer, PBG +1.972.9.776.1956 (desk) +1.972.54.307.8987 (mobile) AMDOCS > CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE SYSTEMS INNOVATION This message and the information contained herein is proprietary and confidential and subject to the Amdocs policy statement, you may review at http://www.amdocs.com/email_disclaimer.asp ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Upgrade to Frame 8?
There are members on my team with Frame 8 that complain that Frame still crashes even after p273. I'm still working with version 7.2 and we have not identified yet what might be causing it to crash. This message and the information contained herein is proprietary and confidential and subject to the Amdocs policy statement, you may review at http://www.amdocs.com/email_disclaimer.asp ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Acrobat Options...
> Is there any way to set options for printing the resulting PDF in what I > create, either from FM or in Acrobat before I share the PDF with the > reviewers and end users ? > Acrobat 8 Pro has a setting in the document Properties dialog box, under the Advanced tab. You can change the default page scaling to None. (I don't remember if 7 has this feature.) David Creamer I.D.E.A.S. - Results-Oriented Training http://www.IDEAStraining.com Adobe Certified Trainer & Expert (since 1995) Authorized Quark Training Provider (since 1988) Enfocus, Markzware, FileMaker Certified ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Acrobat Options...
On Dov Isaacs at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 3/28/08 2:00 PM: > Acrobat 8 / PDF 1.7 does indeed have a facility by which you may > "pre-populate" the fields of the print dialog (you can't get to this > via Distiller joboptions - sorry!). However, that facility does NOT > prevent the end user from choosing any one of a number of printing > options within Acrobat which may scale the page at print time. I did not mean to imply that the None setting was locked in--just that it can be pre-set. As Dov stated, it can be changed by the user, but most don't notice it, let alone change it. David Creamer I.D.E.A.S. - Results-Oriented Training http://www.IDEAStraining.com Adobe Certified Trainer & Expert (since 1995) Authorized Quark Training Provider (since 1988) Enfocus, Markzware, FileMaker Certified ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM Classes in Southern California?
> Hi Framers, > > Happy Friday! > > Is anyone aware of any FM classes in the L.A./Southern California area? There are a number of Adobe Authorized trainers in that area according to the Adobe website. Here is the link: <http://partners.adobe.com/public/partnerfinder/tp/show_find.do> David Creamer I.D.E.A.S. - Results-Oriented Training http://www.IDEAStraining.com Adobe Certified Trainer & Expert (since 1995) Authorized Quark Training Provider (since 1988) Enfocus, Markzware, FileMaker Certified ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Getting FM to recognize Distiller Joboptions files
Hello all, I've installed a new joboptions file (capdf8), but I can't get FrameMaker to recognize it. That is, if I open Distiller 8.1.0, I see it in the Default Settings pull-down, and if I search my c:\ drive, I can find it in c:\Documents and Settings\\Application Data\Adobe\Adobe PDF\Settings\. But, in FM 7.1b023, if I click Format, Document, PDF setup, it does not appear in the PDF Job Options pull-down list on the Settings tab in the PDF Setup dialog (Format, Document, PDF Settings). I did a search of my c:\ drive for some of the files that do appear in this pull-down list and found them in c:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Adobe\Adobe PDF\Settings\. One curious note: One of the files I see in my PDF Job Options pull-down list within FM is capdf5, which is what I have been using. When I searched my c:\ drive for this file, I could not find it. I thought the solution would be to copy capdf8 from the path to the All Users path, but I got an error message that I "Cannot copy capdf8: Access is denied." I attempted to uncheck the (grayed out) read-only status of the folders within All Users, but got another error message saying "An error occurred apply attributes to the file: ... Access is denied.". Any ideas on how I can get my capdf8 file to appear in the FM PDF Job Options pull-down list? Many thanks in advance, David Wollenberger ca Senior Technical Writer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Customers First Performance Quality & Innovation Teamwork with Focus Shareholder Value This e-mail message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Comparison of plugin options
I need to advise my group what plugin to purchase for easy mapping of templates with different tag names. The obvious choice is TemplateMapper. Paragraph Tools (Silicon Prairie) is also a possibility, but it is more limited. I was wondering if combining Paragraph Tools with BookXRefs (Leximation) would achieve the same effect for less money. >From what I can see, I'd be missing Master Page and Reference Page Mapping, as well as table mapping. What else would I be missing by using these instead of Template Mapper. Any thoughts regarding this choice are appreciated. David Kuhn Technical Writer, PBG +1.972.9.776.1956 (desk) +1.972.54.307.8987 (mobile) AMDOCS > CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE SYSTEMS INNOVATION This message and the information contained herein is proprietary and confidential and subject to the Amdocs policy statement, you may review at http://www.amdocs.com/email_disclaimer.asp ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Incorrect special characters
I am trying to insert the following special characters using FrameMaker 7.2. I have tried the FrameMaker character sets PDF provided by Microtype for FrameMaker 7.2 and also the character sets listed for FrameMaker 8 on the FrameMaker resources website. But they appear as the wrong symbols. * ≥ (greater than or equal to) Ctrl + q + 3 or ANSI 0179 * ≠ (not equal to) Ctrl + q + 9 or ANSI 0185 * ≤ (less than or equal to) Ctrl + q + # or ANSI 0163 (according to microtype) ANSI 0162 According to FrameMaker 8 manual Any suggestions? David Kuhn Technical Writer, PBG +1.972.9.776.1956 (desk) +1.972.54.307.8987 (mobile) AMDOCS > CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE SYSTEMS INNOVATION This message and the information contained herein is proprietary and confidential and subject to the Amdocs policy statement, you may review at http://www.amdocs.com/email_disclaimer.asp ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Use of TemplateMapper for converting from Word?
When I first heard of TemplateMapper, I wondered if this could be used to help convert from Word to FrameMaker. Then I saw some postings on the list that confirmed that some people do use it for this. Now that I have TemplateMapper, I cannot figure out how it is helpful for this. If you Import a Word document, selecting Copy into Document, then all the paragraph tags (except headings and captions) become *BodyText with no distinction between bullets or numbers, for example. Other issues: * It doesn't look like the TemplateMapper can help with the cross-references because, for instance, there's no way to distinguish between the cross-reference types. * Because our notes are in tables, it doesn't look like there is any way around redoing them all manually. * It doesn't actually convert the tables. I need to go over them with TableCleaner. David Kuhn Technical Writer, PBG +1.972.9.776.1956 (desk) +1.972.54.307.8987 (mobile) AMDOCS > CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE SYSTEMS INNOVATION This message and the information contained herein is proprietary and confidential and subject to the Amdocs policy statement, you may review at http://www.amdocs.com/email_disclaimer.asp ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Use of TemplateMapper for converting from Word?
Regarding the issue of using TemplateMapper to convert from word, Caroline Tabach wrote: To try and make this more useful, Save the Word document as rtf Then open the RTF file in FrameMaker. Now all of your styles are preserved. Obviously this might not solve your other issue, but does help with the paragraph styles. I found that I lost more by importing from RTF. There was still no differentiation between Word styles. But graphics were no longer in anchored frames and, although references can in very funny by importing the word doc, at least they were working references. But this was lost when importing the RTF. Then I dug out an old message from Fred Ridder, I think, who suggested using word macros to help map the styles. This led to my discovery that the non-differentiation between styles was actually an issue with the Word template being used. An older template version did convert better with TemplateMapper because it differentiated more between styles. So the current word template can be prepped for conversion to Frame by macros. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Kuhn Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 6:09 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Use of TemplateMapper for converting from Word? When I first heard of TemplateMapper, I wondered if this could be used to help convert from Word to FrameMaker. Then I saw some postings on the list that confirmed that some people do use it for this. Now that I have TemplateMapper, I cannot figure out how it is helpful for this. If you Import a Word document, selecting Copy into Document, then all the paragraph tags (except headings and captions) become *BodyText with no distinction between bullets or numbers, for example. Other issues: * It doesn't look like the TemplateMapper can help with the cross-references because, for instance, there's no way to distinguish between the cross-reference types. * Because our notes are in tables, it doesn't look like there is any way around redoing them all manually. * It doesn't actually convert the tables. I need to go over them with TableCleaner. David Kuhn Technical Writer, PBG +1.972.9.776.1956 (desk) +1.972.54.307.8987 (mobile) AMDOCS > CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE SYSTEMS INNOVATION This message and the information contained herein is proprietary and confidential and subject to the Amdocs policy statement, you may review at http://www.amdocs.com/email_disclaimer.asp ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/caroline%40radcom.co m Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. This message and the information contained herein is proprietary and confidential and subject to the Amdocs policy statement, you may review at http://www.amdocs.com/email_disclaimer.asp ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Framemaker and Vista
> Does Framemaker run on Windows Vista via Parallels? > Intel iMac running 10.5.3. Yes--I have 7.2 and 8 installed. David Creamer I.D.E.A.S. - Results-Oriented Training http://www.IDEAStraining.com Adobe Certified Trainer & Expert (since 1995) Authorized Quark Training Provider (since 1988) Enfocus, Markzware, FileMaker Certified ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Solution to Problem Printing to PDF from FrameMaker 8
Though nobody asked, I thought it would be a good idea to share a solution I just received from an Adobe engineer regarding a problem printing to PDF from FrameMaker 8. The scenario: We had a document with multiple conditions. The document printed OK for two of the conditions, but not the third. When trying to print a FrameMaker 8 document to PDF, the third condition resulted in an error message that begins as follows: Internal Error 8004, 6343724, 8484240, 0. FrameMaker has detected a serious problem and must quit. Following is the unedited response: As a work around, you can try the following: 1. Open the book 2. Open all the files of the book (this is an important step for things to work). 3. Do a 'Show All' 4. Save as Pdf (optional steps) 5. Set the conditions as before (the third condition) 6. Save As Pdf. If you are working on an individual document, open the document, and start from step 3. David Kuhn Technical Writer, PBG +1.972.9.776.1956 (desk) +1.972.54.307.8987 (mobile) AMDOCS > CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE SYSTEMS INNOVATION This message and the information contained herein is proprietary and confidential and subject to the Amdocs policy statement, you may review at http://www.amdocs.com/email_disclaimer.asp ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: A Hero, not a criminal
> They were correcting bad grammar, as we Tech Writers do every day. Signs > at our National Parks should contain correct grammar. That's why I said > they're Heroes. > Correcting grammar is not something I would consider heroic. Hero is a term thrown around much too quickly (for example, sports figures). Bringing *attention* to bad grammar might be worthwhile, but defacing historic signage is a criminal act (or anyone's signage for that matter). The sign was known to contain errors, but because of its historic nature, it was left standing. Perhaps you should hunt down the tree that Daniel Boone carved "D. Boone kilt a bar" and fix that one up too. David Creamer I.D.E.A.S. - Results-Oriented Training http://www.IDEAStraining.com Adobe Certified Trainer & Expert (since 1995) Authorized Quark Training Provider (since 1988) Enfocus, Markzware, FileMaker Certified ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Frame 8 and WebWorks
One of the biggest problems with WebWorks is that if you upgrade your Frame you need to fork out the monies for an upgrade to WebWorks. Major pain when budgets are getting cut. --- On Wed, 9/3/08, Jim Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Jim Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Frame 8 and WebWorks To: "Kristy Nolan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 12:01 PM WWP 2003 does not work with FM8. we switched to Mif2Go. Kristy Nolan wrote: > Hi, all! > > Does anyone have any experience or issues running Frame 8.0 and WebWorks > Publisher 2003? I just had WWP installed on my machine yesterday and it > opens fine. However, I am getting an error "The application is unable to > communicate with FrameMaker. FrameMaker was unable to generate the > specified MIF file." Any ideas? It worked on my old machine with Frame > 7.2. Upgrading isn't really an option. > > Thanks! > Kristy > > Kristy Nolan > Lead Publications Specialist > Ground Ops Publications DAL-3TR > Southwest Airlines > 8008 Cedar Springs Rd. > Dallas, TX 75230 > 214-792-2472 > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jowens%40magma.ca > > Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dspreadb%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Missing font when printing
Sounds like your postscript printer doesn't know "Symbol." Try downloading and installing the free SetPrint (http://www.sundorne.com/FrameMaker/Freeware/setPrint.htm). SetPrint allows you to configure two unique printers. Set it up to use Adobe PDF while working in Frame and the physical postscript printer when outside of Frame. --- On Tue, 9/2/08, elizabeth moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: elizabeth moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Missing font when printing To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 8:51 PM Hi, I am having an issue with at least one font on my system. Within Framemaker, the font is available to use and shows up fine. However, when I create a PDF or print a hardcopy, the font disappears. There is no warning that the font is missing. The font is "Symbol". I have: Framemaker version 7.0p578 Adobe Type Manager 4.1 build 243 lite Acrobat prof 8.1.2 Computer is running XP with service pack 2 I also have ARTS link checker, and Timesavers installed (although i don't think this is working properly, but haven't needed to use it). Printers drivers are using a PS driver. I've tried printing using the "Adobe PDF" print option, and unticking the following setting: Rely on system fonts only; do not use document fonts but still the font doesn't print. Any ideas please, or has someone ever suffered the same? Thanks, Elizabeth NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Allied Telesis Labs Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender has the authority to issue and specifically states them to be the views of Allied Telesis Labs. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dspreadb%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM7 and OLE
We had the same problem, pasted text from Word going into an anchored frame, until we noticed the 'other' right-click paste option "Paste Special." This option presents a new menu of what the Special represents. Select Text and it should work. --- On Sat, 8/30/08, Cal Callahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Cal Callahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: FM7 and OLE To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, August 30, 2008, 2:06 PM The problem is with MS OLE. You MIGHT work around it by removing SP3, although this didn't work for me. (That was the only suggested solution I found in an extensive search of the web.) My problem, however, was a little different. After importing a Visio file, all attempts to copy & paste text from a Word doc into Frame resulted in the text coming in an anchored frame. I got around it by running the text through OpenOfficeWriter first. I had no problems with Frame 8. I would very interested in hearing how anyone else resolved this problem. cal ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dspreadb%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
