[Framework-Team] Re: PLIP #197: Add FeedParser as external requirement

2008-10-03 Thread Maurits van Rees
Martijn Pieters, on 2008-10-03:
> On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 23:59, Maurits van Rees
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> The plip is:
>> #197: Add FeedParser as external requirement instead of shipping with it
>> http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/197
>>
>> Originally proposed by Christian Scholz in December 2007.  Seconded
>> bij Martijn Pieters.
>
> I did not; Jens Klein seconded it, I gave my framework team vote on it
> already (a +1).

Ah yes, that was what I meant. :)

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Re: [Framework-Team] Meeting up in DC

2008-10-03 Thread Martijn Pieters
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 23:17, Steve McMahon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I asked our conference social planner, JoAnna Springsteen, for
> possibilities for a dinner spot where we could meet up Monday night
> and actually hear one another. Here are her suggestions.

I won't make it to DC and the conference this year due to personal
circumstances. Hope you guys have a great time!

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Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP #197: Add FeedParser as external requirement

2008-10-03 Thread Martijn Pieters
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 23:59, Maurits van Rees
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The plip is:
> #197: Add FeedParser as external requirement instead of shipping with it
> http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/197
>
> Originally proposed by Christian Scholz in December 2007.  Seconded
> bij Martijn Pieters.

I did not; Jens Klein seconded it, I gave my framework team vote on it
already (a +1).

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[Framework-Team] Meeting up in DC

2008-10-03 Thread Steve McMahon
Hi Framework Team,

I asked our conference social planner, JoAnna Springsteen, for
possibilities for a dinner spot where we could meet up Monday night
and actually hear one another. Here are her suggestions.

If one or more of these spots sound particularly good or bad, let me
or the list know. Sometime in the next couple of days, I'll make an
executive decision on our behalf.

Steve

Hmmm. Well Monday night we're going to go to Fado. It's a large pub
that serves food. They're having a trivia quiz night and I'm trying to
get a Team Plone together. If you guys ate there we could meet up with
you later. Not sure if the food is great or if it's all that quite
though.
Science Club would be good but it's where we're going for our official
pre-conf social Wednesday night, plus it has an all vegetarian menu
which may not appeal to all.
DC locals say Granville Moore's is supposed to be great both food and
beer wise but it's not close to the metro. Sushi Taro would be good
but you'd definitely have to make reservations to get in with that
many people.
Central is supposed to be great and it's near the conference location
but it's a bit higher end and it's another place you'd have to make
reservations.
I liked the Brickskeller when we went there. It's a bit of a walk from
the dupont circle metro but it has a huge beer menu and serves food.
It's not a huge place but I could just see a group of geeks huddled in
the corner here debating something. The locals aren't super impressed
by it but I dug it. Again, you might want to check and see if they can
accommodate a bigger group for dinner.
I know the Capitol Lounge can handle big groups but I'm not sure that
the food or atmosphere is a particular draw. The prices and food are
both supposed to be decent so it probably won't wow you but it could
be a safe bet for you to just walk in and get seated in a reasonable
amount of time.

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Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP #240: Improve locking configurability

2008-10-03 Thread David Glick



I'd like to propose PLIP #240 for inclusion in Plone 3.3:

http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/240

This PLIP is intended to provide several avenues toward addressing  
the problem of content accidentally getting left in a locked state.

+1 for this, although:

"David Glick is willing to serve in an advisory role to whoever is  
willing to implement this."


I suspect this means that it won't get implemented. :)

I think you need to find someone who's willing to commit to  
delivering it, or it won't happen.


I suppose I should clarify.  I'm willing to commit to implementing  
this if it's just a matter of changing the default timeout and adding  
some KSS to keep the lock in place while an item's being edited.  In  
an effort to avoid overextending myself, I'm not able to commit to  
creating a new locking configlet (though based on Sidnei's comment  
about the PloneLockManager product, which I was unaware of, that may  
be less important).


In either case, I'd be glad to hear discussion regarding the best  
approach to providing a useful locking system without leaving locks in  
place accidentally or otherwise getting in the way.



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[Framework-Team] PLIP #197: Add FeedParser as external requirement

2008-10-03 Thread Maurits van Rees
Hi,

I propose plip 197 for Plone 3.3.  Or really for 3.2 as it is a small
packaging change which fits well in the overall theme of 3.2.  I
mentioned that on this list a few weeks ago without reactions.

The plip is:
#197: Add FeedParser as external requirement instead of shipping with it
http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/197

Originally proposed by Christian Scholz in December 2007.  Seconded
bij Martijn Pieters.


The work has been done already:

https://svn.plone.org/svn/plone/plone.app.portlets/branches/plip197-feedparser-as-external-egg

The change is just one extra line in the setup.py of
plone.app.portlets declaring the dependency on FeedParser and the
removal of feedparser.py.

I tried some other changes like being forgiving when FeedParser cannot
be imported, but that caused more problems than it solved.


Cheers,

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[Framework-Team] Re: PLIP #126: Link type should automatically redirect when accessed directly

2008-10-03 Thread Martin Aspeli

Martin Aspeli wrote:

David Glick wrote:

I've edited an old PLIP that I'd like to propose for 3.3:

http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/126

This is about making the built-in Link content type redirect to its 
target when the link is accessed by a direct URL (not just when it 
appears as a link in navigation).


Note that some of the discussion of the PLIP relates to other 
Link-related proposals which appeared in an earlier revision of the PLIP 
(but which have been already incorporated into Plone and thus edited out 
of the PLIP.)


+1 for this, although:

"David Glick is willing to serve in an advisory role to whoever is 
willing to implement this."


I suspect this means that it won't get implemented. :)

I think you need to find someone who's willing to commit to delivering 
it, or it won't happen.


Sorry, I meant to reply to the post about #240.

Martin

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[Framework-Team] Re: PLIP #126: Link type should automatically redirect when accessed directly

2008-10-03 Thread Martin Aspeli

David Glick wrote:

I've edited an old PLIP that I'd like to propose for 3.3:

http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/126

This is about making the built-in Link content type redirect to its 
target when the link is accessed by a direct URL (not just when it 
appears as a link in navigation).


Note that some of the discussion of the PLIP relates to other 
Link-related proposals which appeared in an earlier revision of the PLIP 
(but which have been already incorporated into Plone and thus edited out 
of the PLIP.)


+1 for this, although:

"David Glick is willing to serve in an advisory role to whoever is 
willing to implement this."


I suspect this means that it won't get implemented. :)

I think you need to find someone who's willing to commit to delivering 
it, or it won't happen.


Martin

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want to work with Plone. See http://martinaspeli.net/plone-book


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[Framework-Team] PLIP #187: Working out-of-the-box WebDAV

2008-10-03 Thread Sidnei da Silva
I would like to propose PLIP #187 for Plone 3.3.

I already have pretty much all the work done, in a branch. It just
needs polishing and merging.

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Re: [Framework-Team] OT: problems with Gmane misinterpretations of browse back/forward and other key combinations

2008-10-03 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Graham Perrin wrote:
> To seasoned Framework Team users of Gmane, a plea:
> 
> How do I prevent Gmane from misinterpreting key combinations?

I see more and more complaints about gmane. Personally I really wish
people who just use the mailing list directly instead of using gateway
like gmane or nabble for posting. 

We can not support gmane, so questions like this should be send to the
gmane team, not to us.

> (I'm using Gmane now only because there's no plone.org interface to  
> this list, reasons for which I understand.)

We have http://lists.plone.org/pipermail/framework-team/ which works
perfectly for reading the list. And you can use your normal email client
to post to the list.

Wichert.
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