[Frameworks] caffenol processing with 16mm?
Hi I just watched a how-to on Caffenol processing (developing black and white negatives with instant coffee and vitamin c) wondering If i can use the same process to develop black and white reversal or high-con titling film (Kodak 7363) Has anyone tried this? I'm wondering if this process can be modified to replace the d-97/d-11 process used for hi-con. -- Carrie Schreck Filmmaker, photographer, and all-around cool chick. (415) 730 1146 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] caffenol processing with 16mm?
Link for the instructions http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zYjOqcbBEco -Carrie On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 12:08 PM, Terri Francis wrote: > Hi I was wondering if you would share a link to where you saw the how-to. > Thank you. > > On Jan 5, 2012, at 3:05 PM, Carrie Schreck wrote: > > > > > Hi I just watched a how-to on Caffenol processing (developing black and > white negatives with instant coffee and vitamin c) wondering If i can use > the same process to develop black and white reversal or high-con titling > film (Kodak 7363) > > > > Has anyone tried this? I'm wondering if this process can be modified to > replace the d-97/d-11 process used for hi-con. > > -- > > Carrie Schreck > > Filmmaker, photographer, and all-around cool chick. > > (415) 730 1146 > > ___ > > FrameWorks mailing list > > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > Terri Francis > Associate Professor > Film Studies, African American Studies > Yale University > http://www.yale.edu/filmstudiesprogram/faculty/francis.html > > > > -- Carrie Schreck Filmmaker, photographer, and all-around cool chick. (415) 730 1146 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] caffenol processing with 16mm?
This topic circulated in a thread awhile back. Here's a link to a recipe that was posted: http://www.handmadefilm.org/research/coffeeAscorbate/index.html On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Carrie Schreck wrote: > > Hi I just watched a how-to on Caffenol processing (developing black and > white negatives with instant coffee and vitamin c) wondering If i can use > the same process to develop black and white reversal or high-con titling > film (Kodak 7363) > > Has anyone tried this? I'm wondering if this process can be modified to > replace the d-97/d-11 process used for hi-con. > -- > Carrie Schreck > Filmmaker, photographer, and all-around cool chick. > (415) 730 1146 > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] caffenol processing with 16mm?
hei carrie, yes, this works. i tried it with high con 7363 and also b/w negative and color reversal (doesnt make much sense, but works as well). Original-Nachricht > Datum: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 12:05:20 -0800 > Von: Carrie Schreck > An: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com > Betreff: [Frameworks] caffenol processing with 16mm? > Hi I just watched a how-to on Caffenol processing (developing black and > white negatives with instant coffee and vitamin c) wondering If i can use > the same process to develop black and white reversal or high-con titling > film (Kodak 7363) > > Has anyone tried this? I'm wondering if this process can be modified to > replace the d-97/d-11 process used for hi-con. > -- > Carrie Schreck > Filmmaker, photographer, and all-around cool chick. > (415) 730 1146 -- NEU: FreePhone - 0ct/min Handyspartarif mit Geld-zurück-Garantie! Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] caffenol processing with 16mm?
REALLY? color? that's interesting will try that, do you remember your timing for the hi-con? also where did you get the washing soda? On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Daniela Zahlner wrote: > hei carrie, > yes, this works. i tried it with high con 7363 and also b/w negative and > color reversal (doesnt make much sense, but works as well). > > > > > Original-Nachricht > > Datum: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 12:05:20 -0800 > > Von: Carrie Schreck > > An: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com > > Betreff: [Frameworks] caffenol processing with 16mm? > > > Hi I just watched a how-to on Caffenol processing (developing black and > > white negatives with instant coffee and vitamin c) wondering If i can use > > the same process to develop black and white reversal or high-con titling > > film (Kodak 7363) > > > > Has anyone tried this? I'm wondering if this process can be modified to > > replace the d-97/d-11 process used for hi-con. > > -- > > Carrie Schreck > > Filmmaker, photographer, and all-around cool chick. > > (415) 730 1146 > > -- > NEU: FreePhone - 0ct/min Handyspartarif mit Geld-zurück-Garantie! > Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > -- Carrie Schreck Filmmaker, photographer, and all-around cool chick. (415) 730 1146 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] caffenol processing with 16mm?
well, the color reversal turns out b/w negative of course, that's why i meant it doesnt make sense to use it ;) the high-con was about 2 min. i think, but you can use a red safelight and see what's happening. soda -> at a chemist's Original-Nachricht > Datum: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 13:21:55 -0800 > Von: Carrie Schreck > An: Experimental Film Discussion List > Betreff: Re: [Frameworks] caffenol processing with 16mm? > REALLY? color? that's interesting will try that, do you remember your > timing for the hi-con? also where did you get the washing soda? > > On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Daniela Zahlner > wrote: > > > hei carrie, > > yes, this works. i tried it with high con 7363 and also b/w negative and > > color reversal (doesnt make much sense, but works as well). > > > > > > > > > > Original-Nachricht > > > Datum: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 12:05:20 -0800 > > > Von: Carrie Schreck > > > An: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com > > > Betreff: [Frameworks] caffenol processing with 16mm? > > > > > Hi I just watched a how-to on Caffenol processing (developing black > and > > > white negatives with instant coffee and vitamin c) wondering If i can > use > > > the same process to develop black and white reversal or high-con > titling > > > film (Kodak 7363) > > > > > > Has anyone tried this? I'm wondering if this process can be modified > to > > > replace the d-97/d-11 process used for hi-con. > > > -- > > > Carrie Schreck > > > Filmmaker, photographer, and all-around cool chick. > > > (415) 730 1146 > > > > -- > > NEU: FreePhone - 0ct/min Handyspartarif mit Geld-zurück-Garantie! > > Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone > > ___ > > FrameWorks mailing list > > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > > > > > -- > Carrie Schreck > Filmmaker, photographer, and all-around cool chick. > (415) 730 1146 -- NEU: FreePhone - 0ct/min Handyspartarif mit Geld-zurück-Garantie! Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] caffenol processing with 16mm?
Carrie, You can also get Arm & Hammer Washing Soda at most grocery stores in the US, usually near the laundry detergent. -Jason Halprin From: Carrie Schreck To: Experimental Film Discussion List Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2012 3:21 PM Subject: Re: [Frameworks] caffenol processing with 16mm? REALLY? color? that's interesting will try that, do you remember your timing for the hi-con? also where did you get the washing soda?___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] caffenol processing with 16mm
The suggestion to use sodium carbonate (washing soda) is a good one. It's MUCH more economical than vitamin C as an activator, blends faster with coffee and therefore produces cleaner results on your film. I've processed a great deal of film (motion and still) with caffeinol (my most recent hi-con process was using expired, 12 year old 7378 from my freezer, and it worked beautifully). If you don't object to lengthier developing times, you can substitute the coffee in your caffeinol mix with anything containing caffeic acid...such as black/green tea or red wine (wine is obviously more expensive, but it's a great thing to try at least once. Just as with coffee, the cheaper the wine, the better the developer.) -- Forwarded message -- From: Jason Halprin To: Experimental Film Discussion List Cc: Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 13:46:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [Frameworks] caffenol processing with 16mm? Carrie, You can also get Arm & Hammer Washing Soda at most grocery stores in the US, usually near the laundry detergent. -Jason Halprin -- *From:* Carrie Schreck *To:* Experimental Film Discussion List *Sent:* Thursday, January 5, 2012 3:21 PM *Subject:* Re: [Frameworks] caffenol processing with 16mm? REALLY? color? that's interesting will try that, do you remember your timing for the hi-con? also where did you get the washing soda? ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] caffenol processing with 16mm
Hi Christine, the process I read about was coffee, vit C, AND washing soda, I'm not opposed to using all 3 but I think washing soda may be hard to find in southern california. Basically I want to shoot the hi-con and experiment with degrading it during processing to give it some nice brakhage esque texture; bubbles, scratches, i'd like to figure out a good technique for solarizing, etc. any recommendations? also do you order your 7378 through kodak directly, if so what's your contact. Thanks! -Carrie On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Christine Lucy Latimer < christinelucylati...@gmail.com> wrote: > The suggestion to use sodium carbonate (washing soda) is a good one. It's > MUCH more economical than vitamin C as an activator, blends faster with > coffee and therefore produces cleaner results on your film. > > I've processed a great deal of film (motion and still) with caffeinol (my > most recent hi-con process was using expired, 12 year old 7378 from my > freezer, and it worked beautifully). If you don't object to lengthier > developing times, you can substitute the coffee in your caffeinol mix with > anything containing caffeic acid...such as black/green tea or red wine > (wine is obviously more expensive, but it's a great thing to try at least > once. Just as with coffee, the cheaper the wine, the better the developer.) > > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Jason Halprin > To: Experimental Film Discussion List > Cc: > Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 13:46:16 -0800 (PST) > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] caffenol processing with 16mm? > Carrie, > > You can also get Arm & Hammer Washing Soda at most grocery stores in the > US, usually near the laundry detergent. > > -Jason Halprin > > -- > *From:* Carrie Schreck > *To:* Experimental Film Discussion List > *Sent:* Thursday, January 5, 2012 3:21 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Frameworks] caffenol processing with 16mm? > > REALLY? color? that's interesting will try that, do you remember your > timing for the hi-con? also where did you get the washing soda? > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > -- Carrie Schreck Filmmaker, photographer, and all-around cool chick. (415) 730 1146 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
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What is "brakhage esque texture"? Mercy. Sent from my iPod On Jan 6, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Carrie Schreck wrote: > brakhage esque texture ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] caffenol processing with 16mm
Stan Brakhage :) my direct-on-film hero http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=stan+brakhage%2C+direct+on+film&oq=stan+brakhage%2C+direct+on+film&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=10118l16179l0l16305l29l24l0l14l4l0l290l1756l3.3.4l10l0 I started putting found footage in washing machines with bleach and got great textures -Carrie On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Robbie wrote: > What is "brakhage esque texture"? Mercy. > > Sent from my iPod > > On Jan 6, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Carrie Schreck > wrote: > > > brakhage esque texture > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > -- Carrie Schreck Filmmaker, photographer, and all-around cool chick. (415) 730 1146 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
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>but I think washing soda may be hard to find in southern california. Carrie...this is what you're looking for: http://www.amazon.com/Church-Dwight-03020-Hammer-Washing/dp/B0029XNTEU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1325893480&sr=8-1 Next time you're at Ralph's, it should be about $3. -JH ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
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killer! On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Jason Halprin wrote: > > >but I think washing soda may be hard to find in southern california. > > Carrie...this is what you're looking for: > http://www.amazon.com/Church-Dwight-03020-Hammer-Washing/dp/B0029XNTEU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1325893480&sr=8-1 > > Next time you're at Ralph's, it should be about $3. > > -JH > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > -- Carrie Schreck Filmmaker, photographer, and all-around cool chick. (415) 730 1146 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
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When it comes to art, don't let anything hold you back - have it imported! >but I think washing soda may be hard to find in southern california. ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
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All the way from . . . Nevada? Don't they wash in SoCal? George Robinson On 1/6/2012 7:12 PM, Tom Whiteside wrote: When it comes to art, don’t let anything hold you back – have it imported! >but I think washing soda may be hard to find in southern california. ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- Visit my blog at www.cine-journal.blogspot.com Follow me on Twitter @GRCommunicati13 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
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If "washing soda" and "seventh generation scent-free, dye-free, laundry detergent" are the same thing, then yes, yes we have it in socal. -Carrie On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 4:18 PM, George Robinson < george.robinson.communicati...@gmail.com> wrote: > All the way from . . . Nevada? > Don't they wash in SoCal? > > George Robinson > > > > On 1/6/2012 7:12 PM, Tom Whiteside wrote: > > When it comes to art, don’t let anything hold you back – have it > imported! > > ** ** > > ** ** > > >but I think washing soda may be hard to find in southern california. > > > > > > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing > listFrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.comhttps://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > > -- > > Visit my blog at www.cine-journal.blogspot.com > Follow me on Twitter @GRCommunicati13 > > > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > -- Carrie Schreck Filmmaker, photographer, and all-around cool chick. (415) 730 1146 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
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Friday, January 6, 2012, 4:22:20 PM, one wrote: > If "washing soda" and "seventh generation scent-free, dye-free, laundry > detergent" are the same thing, then yes, yes we have it in socal. It's not detergent. It is what it is ;-). It's used to soften water for hand-washing clothes when the tap water's too "hard". You do want the Arm & Hammer brand so you're sure it doesn't have laundry-related additives (fragrances, etc.) that'll muck up the chemistry. Don't get it in your eyes. -- Best regards, Jim Flannery j...@newgrangemedia.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
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Not sure if anyone has posted links to a few of these sites yet. There is a lot of information to be found on using caffenol on this flickr group, and one of the central poster's blog: http://www.flickr.com/groups/33051635@N00/discuss/ http://caffenol.blogspot.com/ I've cross processed about four hundred feet of Kodak 7217, in a g3 tank, so far and the results are interesting. Here are a couple of stills: http://www.flickr.com/photos/herbt/6229970023/in/photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/herbt/6178677875/in/photostream Herb On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Jim Flannery wrote: > Friday, January 6, 2012, 4:22:20 PM, one wrote: > >> If "washing soda" and "seventh generation scent-free, dye-free, laundry >> detergent" are the same thing, then yes, yes we have it in socal. > > It's not detergent. It is what it is ;-). It's used to soften water for > hand-washing clothes when the tap water's too "hard". > > You do want the Arm & Hammer brand so you're sure it doesn't have > laundry-related additives (fragrances, etc.) that'll muck up the > chemistry. > > Don't get it in your eyes. > > -- > Best regards, > Jim Flannery > j...@newgrangemedia.com > > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
