Re: Sustainability of switching power supplies
On Sat, 21 Nov 2020 17:30:08 -0700, Brett Glass wrote: >At 01:24 AM 11/21/2020, Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-chat wrote: > >That's why Glass's Law of Electronic Diagnosis states: Whenever you >are asked about the failure of an electronic device, simply say, "It's >the power suppply." > >You will be correct about 99% of the time That's exactly my experiences with gear using switching power supplies, but not with gear using classic power supplies. And yes, when I ask for "sustainability" everything should be taken into account. The better efficiency, but also other variables, such as special waste, if the device is borked. ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Sustainability of switching power supplies
Hi, does anybody know about papers related to the sustainability of switching power supplies? In my very limited experiences they are seemingly less sustainable than old school power supplies. I'm curious, if any paper does exist related to energy efficiency of usage of a power supply, but also taking into account how much energy is needed to repair or replace those switching thingies and classic stone age power supplies. And apart from energy efficiency, how much other resources are required to produce and maintain different kinds of power supplies? My experiences with modern computer power supplies aren't bad, but my impression about switching power supplies in almost everything and the sustainability of this approach ... voltage undersized caps etc. isn't good. Regards, Ralf ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
[moved from FreeBSD User questions] "I run ArchLinux and never look back" - Kindu Smith
Hi, for good reasons I moved this thread. https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2020-June/289988.html On Tue, 09 Jun 2020 21:28:12 +0800, kindu smith wrote: >Secondly, it drives all my hardware, including sound card, nvidia >graphics card, wireless network card, screen brightness and touchpad. Interesting, the reason for me to use FreeBSD for the first time was, that Linux didn't and still doesn't fully support one of my audio cards. [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ aplay -l | head -2 List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices card 0: HDSPMx579bcc [RME AIO_579bcc], device 0: RME AIO [RME AIO] Neither does FreeBSD, but I at least could test the IOs that don't work with Linux. However, without doubts more hardware vendors semi-support Linux, but don't care for BSD that much. >Third, its package manager pacman is very powerful and rock-solid. >Unlike debian's apt and dpkg, it needs to handle a lot of dependencies, >and onlyone pacman can handle all. That's nonsense. I'm used to pacman as well as apt/dpkg. Just building packages is more straight forward for Arch Linux and the port alike approach is nice. >Fourth, it uses systemd, so it starts quickly. As upstart did, too. >The inspiration for systemd is based on maccos launchd, which is even >better than it. And there is no need to buy Apple's expensive >hardware, it is plug-and- play, such as usb drive inserted into the >notebook can be quickly recognized. I don't care if it violates the >unix philosophy, because who cares. Actually I need to use Apple, since neither Linux nor FreeBSD satisfies all my needs related to pro-audio and drawing. >Fifth, it is highly customizable, you can install xfce, gnome, kde and >other desktops, unlike ubuntu, which only contains gnome by default. By default Arch Linux installs without a desktop environment at all, the same does an Ubuntu server image. While I'm in favour of Arch Linux, too, I also maintain a customized Ubuntu. One main difference is, that by default Ubuntu starts more or less everything when installing a package, so the user needs to remove autostarts and to disable services that are unwanted, while on Arch Linux the user has to enable more or less all services and autostarts. Ubuntu comes with several so called "flavours", providing OOTB installs of different desktop environments. There are a few differences, worth mentioning in this thread is probably that the release/LTS release approach has got its pros and cons, like the rolling release approach has got, too. >Seventh, it exists a wiki. As for Ubuntu, FreeBSD and ..., too. >Eighth, it also has a community-based source code package, AUR. Unlike >freebsd's concentration, it is more decentralized, but it solves many >of my problems. Ouch! I won't drop a note related to the AUR, the "Arch User Repository" and ABS, the "Arch build system", "ports-like system for building and packaging software". >Ninth, it is small, and there are not so many useless dependency >packages installed, that no taking up a lot of disk space. There are less dependencies, than for e.g. Ubuntu, since the packages aren't split. Since they aren't split, they easily could take more disk space, unless you don't use measures to avoid e.g. installing headers, if you don't need them, while Ubuntu provides e.g. headers by separated packages. >Tenth, it is based on X86, of course, it can also drive the server, but >few people try. Because it is only based on X86, it made my notebook a >good experience. *?* packages are compiled for x86_64 only nowadays, but ... ? >Of course, I also run freebsd in my oracle VM virtualbox, freebsd is >also my favorite operating system, its structure is even better, but it >is not available. The touchpad, nvidia graphics card, and wireless >network card are not recognized, and the screen cannot adjust the >brightness. It can't access the host's hardware directly when running in Virtualbox, instead it accesses the virtual hardware. >In addition, its startup code feels back to the 90s. What's wrong with an init system that is just this, an init system? >I also don't like gnu's grub, freebsd's btx bootloader seems better. I'm in favour of syslinux, but to be fair, it's possible to configure GRUB that minimal as syslinux. Using syslinux still makes sense, as using GRUB makes sense, too. It depends a little bit. You probably don't understand the pros and cons of different bootloaders. Regards, Ralf ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Why I support BSD software
My very last comment ;). Standard not as in POSIX, but related to a group of software: [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ pacman -Qi dssi lv2 | grep License Licenses: BSD LGPL Licenses: ISC BSD and BSD alike side by side with the GPL. Btw. I'm in favour of audio units https://developer.apple.com/documentation/audiotoolbox/auaudiounit . ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Why I support BSD software
PPS: On Sat, 06 Jun 2020 12:19:16 +0200, Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-chat wrote: >> [rocketmouse@archlinux extra-x86_64]$ grep python2\ waf\ configure >> PKGBUILD -A7 >> python2 waf configure --prefix=/usr \ >> --configdir=/etc \ >> --with-backends="jack,alsa" \ >> --libjack=weak \ >> --optimize \ >> --docs \ >> --cxx11 \ >> --no-phone-home >> >> Even while the ardour developers are unlikely spying, the phone home >> >^^ main developer > the community helps Taking a look at Debian and Ubuntu, they also provide packages with 'phone home' disabled: https://tracker.debian.org/media/packages/a/ardour/rules-16.0.0ds0-1 If you want Ardour with 'phone home' for at least Arch Linux, Debian and Ubuntu, you need to build your own package. The distro packages install it with phone home disabled. You might want to take a look at FreeBSD ports as well as Linux. Some panel plugins for weather report services and things like that might or might not collect data. IOW when using a "free as in beer service" that neither the FreeBSD, nor the Linux communities could provide on their own, it might cost something, such as data collection. IIRC the weather plugins I've seen don't do this, but imagine something such as software that might use satellite imagery (dunno if it exists for FLOSS at all). Neither the FreeBSD nor the Linux community have their own satellites. -- “Awards are merely the badges of mediocrity.” ― Charles Ives ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Why I support BSD software
Correction of a few typos I noticed: On Sat, 2020-06-06 at 12:08 +0200, Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-chat wrote: > All operating systems and licenses have got pros and cons. > If you want to compare operating systems and licenses you should list > pros and cons of the mentioned operating systems, excluding untruth. ^ and licenses > If you just want to mention pros of an operating system and > licenses, don't add comparisons at all and list the pros and the cons, > excluding untruth. Probably without mentioning the cons. Not necessarily a good idea. Just imagine somebody buying hardware that isn't supported. > If you mention things that could be considered different > regarding the point of view, such as 'spyware', underpin it by > providing facts/links. > > Indeed some phone home options off FLOSS could be considered as > spyware, but FreeBSD as well as Linux maintainers and users could > decide to build with disabling phone home flags and don't need to use > data collecting software at all. Some users even consider some phone > home options as not being spyware, but a good tool for developers to > improve FLOSS software. > > An example: > > [rocketmouse@archlinux extra-x86_64]$ grep python2\ waf\ configure > PKGBUILD -A7 > python2 waf configure --prefix=/usr \ > --configdir=/etc \ > --with-backends="jack,alsa" \ > --libjack=weak \ > --optimize \ > --docs \ > --cxx11 \ > --no-phone-home > > Even while the ardour developers are unlikely spying, the phone home ^^ main developer the community helps > flag could collide with security measures, e.g. at a given time ardour > provides useful data for development, not over a tor network and at the > same time a browser is used for Internet research. Under some ^1^ tor browser > circumstances this might be unfavourable. > > Ardour is the only professional DAW available for FreeBSD as well as > Linux. It's GPL'ed without any side effect. It's free as in beer, but > the developer makes living out of it. ^ main developer > Controversial software such as (another example) Ubuntu's 'shopping > lens' aren't Linux as a whole, it's some software provided by a Linux > distro, that nobody is enforced to install in the first place. Just start with a minimal install or server image. > However, your blog is nothing else, but good for redirecting it to > /dev/null. > > It's bogus. It neither satisfies a good description of the pros and cons > of FreeBSD, neither of Linux. ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Why I support BSD software
All operating systems and licenses have got pros and cons. If you want to compare operating systems and licenses you should list pros and cons of the mentioned operating systems, excluding untruth. If you just want to mention pros of an operating system and licenses, don't add comparisons at all and list the pros and the cons, excluding untruth. If you mention things that could be considered different regarding the point of view, such as 'spyware', underpin it by providing facts/links. Indeed some phone home options off FLOSS could be considered as spyware, but FreeBSD as well as Linux maintainers and users could decide to build with disabling phone home flags and don't need to use data collecting software at all. Some users even consider some phone home options as not being spyware, but a good tool for developers to improve FLOSS software. An example: [rocketmouse@archlinux extra-x86_64]$ grep python2\ waf\ configure PKGBUILD -A7 python2 waf configure --prefix=/usr \ --configdir=/etc \ --with-backends="jack,alsa" \ --libjack=weak \ --optimize \ --docs \ --cxx11 \ --no-phone-home Even while the ardour developers are unlikely spying, the phone home flag could collide with security measures, e.g. at a given time ardour provides useful data for development, not over a tor network and at the same time a browser is used for Internet research. Under some circumstances this might be unfavourable. Ardour is the only professional DAW available for FreeBSD as well as Linux. It's GPL'ed without any side effect. It's free as in beer, but the developer makes living out of it. Controversial software such as (another example) Ubuntu's 'shopping lens' aren't Linux as a whole, it's some software provided by a Linux distro, that nobody is enforced to install in the first place. However, your blog is nothing else, but good for redirecting it to /dev/null. It's bogus. It neither satisfies a good description of the pros and cons of FreeBSD, neither of Linux. -- “Awards are merely the badges of mediocrity.” ― Charles Ives ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Why I support BSD software
On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 10:51:56 +0300, Yury Grebenkin wrote: >Please, let me know if something is inaccurate in the article: > >Why I support BSD software >https://yvgrebenkin.wordpress.com/bsd/ This is absolutely correct, you are just missing a few points. For example, the Free Software Foundation is using chemtrails to manipulate computer users. This is a half-truth: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Shuttleworth#Spaceflight Actually Shuttleworth is a shapeshifter alien cow, it can't survive without being in space. Like a wale needs to come up to breathe, the cow alien needs to tank up cosmic rays at times. Hypnotizing red eyed cows manipulate computer users when running the Ubuntu/Debian package management's 'moo' option. [root@archlinux moonstudio]# systemd-nspawn -q apt moo (__) (oo) /--\/ / ||| * /\---/\ ~~ ~~ ..."Have you mooed today?"... -- > /dev/null ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Stay safe everyone
That's me, selling two rolls of dirty toilet paper, for the price of 8 clean rolls: https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/muppet/images/d/d6/Ernie8Salesman.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/250?cb=20180103044853 However, I keep safe distance to the customer, who looks a bit like Donald Trump, incognito, hence the black coloured hair, but the colour of the skin is speaking for itself. ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Images on computers - Was: Re: Basic photo viewing/editing for Xfce?
On Sat, 11 Jan 2020 14:20:57 -0600, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > On 1/11/20 1:43 PM, Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions wrote: > > On Sat, 11 Jan 2020 14:11:38 -0500, Jerry wrote: > > > The question you have to ask yourself is which is more > > > important to you, cost or usability? > > Unfortunately there is a third question. > > > > Are we willing to stand a restricted proprietary policy? > > I have been a serious photographer for over 4 decades. I still > shoot mostly film and process it myself in a wet darkroom. Hi, I'm more a musician and drawer, but somewhere boxed in a cellar room I've got some rotten (wet/)analog darkroom gear. > When I do shoot digital images, I use a pro-level Nikon D FX series > camera. I find GIMP (and Darktable) not restrictive in any meaningful > way. These tools far exceed my photo manipulation requirements. The > ONLY reason to use Photoshop is that it is the default go-to for > professional studios and production houses. That's where the pro > ecosystem was built and remains. This doesn't make it better, it's > just the standard among pros. It depends on what you want to achieve. I'm not a fan of photography, but through my life I've done some photography, manipulating images already when developing the film, as well as when develop pictures from the film, but even by using brushes and air brush to manipulate already developed photos. The digital domain is better for those purposes, since it's easy to correct accidents, let alone that it's less time consuming to mask a segment using e.g. GIMP, than when using foil and a scalpel to do some airbrush. > There are limitations to GIMP. If you're shooting with a 16bit/color, > 100Mpix back on a $50,000 digital camera, yeah, GIMP will be limiting. > But for the 99.% of people who are manipulating far lower end > imagery, GIMP is just fine. But in this case, you're likely working > on a Mac, not reading freebsd-questions :) GIMP improved a lot, I doubt that it's that limited nowadays. In my experiences GIMP became unstable. When using GIMP I usually switch from "default" mode to "legacy" mode for the layers, to improve stability a little bit. However, it's said that GIMP does high bit depth, radiometrically correct editing etc. nowadays. > In any case, the effort very few people bother with that makes way > more of a difference than photo editor: Calibrating their monitor > and printer (if they print their own stuff). Color space matching is > crucial if you want to get a final result that looks like what you see > on screen. As already pointed out related to Krita, display colour settings could be a PITA, especially when using good EIZO or Apple displays. FWIW among other I'm using a cheap EIZO display that simply is sRGB, but this already doesn't work with the Krita sRGB settings, at least GIMP does. Calibrating the monitor already starts with a correct colour setting provided by the software. If the software already fails, you don't need to spend any effort in calibrating the monitor. > P.S. I would also note that most people vastly over manipulate their > images. > I have seen more garish dreck produced with excessive HDR and > color saturation adjustment than the most stoned filthy hippie > painter in the 1960s could have imagined ... Mushroom influenced pseudo-solarization :). > P.P.S. A few examples of my work - some with fairly low rent > equipment. All of the digital stuff and scans of the silver > prinnts edited with GIMP on an unremarkable Linux desktop: > > Digital: > https://www.tundraware.com/Photography/MyPhotographs/DigiPix/ The water photos remind me of those photos somebody has done in the forest using special light, to make parts of the nature looking in a fluorescent alike way. IOW the manipulation was done in the first place, not by editing the photos. Analog: > https://www.tundraware.com/Photography/MyPhotographs/Silver/ While in general I like colour more than black and white, I prefer those analog photos from you over your digital photos. I suspect it's possible to do the same with digital gear, too. I like them. It's a pity that I can't see the original photo. Regards, Ralf -- “Awards are merely the badges of mediocrity.” ― Charles Ives ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: What you should do about it?
Hi, _attention_ I replied to https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat , _not_ to freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org , so I didn't trim your original mail. "About freebsd-chat This list contains the overflow from the other lists about non-technical, social information. It includes discussion about whether Jordan looks like a tune ferret or not, whether or not to type in capitals, who is drinking too much coffee, where the best beer is brewed, who is brewing beer in their basement, and so on. Occasional announcements of important events (such as upcoming parties, weddings, births, new jobs, etc) can be made to the technical lists, but the follow ups should be directed to this list." The reply is below the quoted text. On Sat, 12 Oct 2019 21:44:10 -0700, Morty Yara wrote: >Time have changed. I'm not saying that this is easy. > >Microsoft has altered their operating system to report real-time data >back to a central data repository. They managed to do this because the >operating system was just so easy to use, users had the natural >inclination to touch the propriety OS instead of free and open source >software. Next, next, next, and you've accepted browser history >disclosure through the setup along with your voice fragments, for >which a BestBuy associate, or perhaps an automated process has >accepted the terms of the license agreement, at a physical store >before you even bought the machine. I just wanted to tell you the >truth. You are one of the only remaining options for users who wish to >be free. (FreeBSD) Of course, we can optimize our settings to disable >the tracking, diagtrack, set that to 4 with regedit 'disabled'. >Firewall, set it to blocking from the inside, remove the default >configuration from MS. Add almost 100 entries to the host file, but >the OS will ignore some entries anyways. The system administrator >thought that NAT meant to block from the inside too, but that wasn't a >true firewall, it was network address translation.. Windows Update, >set a policy to prevent automated rebooting of the machine while >you're working. NAT, it's just a program that took the source address, >and updated each frame to correspond to the outside layer 3 address >and network. I took the time send you this because you this because I >know you have the opportunity to create the next free OS. The one that >respects people's rights. It's not going to be easy, but you have the >opportunity to create an alternative. > >Monitor mode to see each machine on the network, instead of the Android >mentality of not allowing low-level network access all together. >Android users don't even have access to the ARP table in Android 10 >'permission denied'. Which devices are on your WiFi network anyways? >From Google, Fing, we destroyed you're whole business. Trying to >protect your home with Haven? We will disallow camera access from a >background thread, and we'll say that this is in the name of fighting >APT malware. > >You are free and open source developers up against something that is >truly evil. Regardless of what it said here, the community is looking >to you to give the choices back. Look at Android. Most devices have >locked the bootloader down to the point where free and open software >(FOSS) could not even run without a signatory key from the device's >manufacture who would never escrow such a key without monetary >involvement. Create the software, the platform, that mobile devices >can run on. Let each user have access to software and we will do the >rest, to ensure that no one is denied access to this software, even at >risk of our own lives. Create something that is truly intuitive. Make >a whole new desktop OS that define Microsoft's and Apple's logic. The Linux distro Ubuntu has got a huge community and some quite good financial scope, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Shuttleworth . Ubuntu Touch is discontinued by Ubuntu, "due to lack of market interest on 5 April 2017", https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Touch . I suspect a lot of people are in favour of portable devices with proprietary operating systems, since they want professional software, that isn't available for FLOSS operating systems and they probably want very modern hardware, too. At least I migrated from my FLOSS desktop computer for two domains to an iPad Pro. The iPad Pro is my digital audio workstation and graphic tablet. It not only is more efficient, due to software that isn't available for FreeBSD and Linux, it's also less expensive. I repeat it, in the end, the in the first place way more expensive iPad Pro, is less expensive than even a desktop PC running FLOSS. I dislike capitalism, but the advantage of unfettered capitalism is technological innovation on a very high level. Free as in beer open source is good in some tried and trusted domains, such as server usage, but technological innovation bundles of modern hardware and several software domains is a week point of free as in beer open source software.
Re: I've got a major question...
PS: Guerilla Open Access Manifesto: https://archive.org/stream/GuerillaOpenAccessManifesto/Goamjuly2008_djvu.txt Perhaps we should move this discussion to freebsd-chat@freebsd.org ;). ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Disposable email addresses - Was: Regarding threats to "CoC" you. - You do have recourse - license rescission
Hi, please ban disposable email addresses, such as redchan.it. There are enough lists of disposable email addresses available for exactly this purpose. Regards, Ralf ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Bogofilter's first action in 2019
C'mon! It's not that hard to do, what almost all admins on other mailing lists already did ;). The first action done by bogofilter on my machine this year was sorting out mails of an idiot, that is already banned from almost all mailing lists, but came through this list. Happy New Year! Ralf ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Why is no one discussing this anymore?
On Fri, 28 Dec 2018 14:51:04 + (UTC), Robbie Herb wrote: >Would it be possible to blacklist those domains? I was wondering that >from the first mail in this thread. This is my first and last reply regarding this topic. This troll sends this kind of spam to more mailing lists, than "just" those BSD and the Linux kernel lists we see in the headers here. I've noticed it at e.g. an Ubuntu mailing list, too. At one or the other mailing list, a list admin might not maintain the mailing list during festive season and several subscribers retrieve mails less often than usual, so instead getting one by one, they get tons of them at once, since an untrained spam filter can't work. However, 1. there are lists of those and other disposable-email-domains on git hub or similar sources available. 2. I'm not using such a list, but after reading half of the first sentence of one of the first mails from this spammer, a single mouse click to teach bogofilter was enough to get rid of all following emails immediately, excepted of replies to this malicious grinch. It is intended by this person to do it during festive season. We need to stand that this is an unfortunate moment to maintain spam filters and mailing lists. It gets even more worth, if people reply to those mindless mails. I can't understand that anybody takes the time to read more than one sentence, let alone to reply to it. ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD has a politics problem
On Thu, 8 Mar 2018 14:31:28 -0500, Geheimnisse wrote: >So, FreeBSD may have a politics problem - an alt-right politics >problem. Manchildren who cry any time something happens that isn't >right-wing. They don't want "politics out of FreeBSD" regarding the >CoC, they want a CoC that aligns with their alt-right values. > >In conclusion, the alt-right can shut the hell up and move on to their >next target. Leave FreeBSD alone, you neckbeard creeps. Those world conspiracy fantasis are touching https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law , something that much, much, much, much, much more often happens on computer related mailing lists than racism, misogyny, xenophobia etc. apears, but Godwin's law usually is uesed regarding technically decisions, a developer e.g. is in favour of a hamburger button over a menubar or vice versa and a user compares this with the Holocaust. -- Lived solidarity: https://ixquick-proxy.com/do/spg/show_picture.pl?l=english=1=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ytimg.com%2Fvi%2F-4MJm6MM8W8%2Fmaxresdefault.jpg=8d7a534b496ef1f5d77206bdc4f1071e ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD's politics problem
On Sun, 4 Mar 2018 18:58:29 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >PPS: It's not my intention to offend geek feminism, it just reminds me >of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.R. , basically good ideas >compromised by ideology. Tricky link :D "People H.R. (born 1956), lead singer of American band Bad Brains" ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD's politics problem
PPS: It's not my intention to offend geek feminism, it just reminds me of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.R. , basically good ideas compromised by ideology. ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FreeBSD's politics problem
Most of this CoC https://www.freebsd.org/internal/code-of-conduct.html is overdoing problems, let alone that the reporting instructions are a bit overdone or unnecessary. "simulated physical contact (e.g., textual descriptions like "*hug*"" "If you believe anyone is in physical danger, please notify appropriate law enforcement first." However, it's just wasting time to question it. IMO it makes more sense to ignore this zeitgeist. ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
