Re: from X to terminal needs an fflush
On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 3:54 PM Chris wrote: > On 2022-07-27 13:45, Ivan Quitschal wrote: > > On Wed, 27 Jul 2022, Ivan Quitschal wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> On Tue, 26 Jul 2022, Tomoaki AOKI wrote: > >> > >>> On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 10:30:25 -0700 > >>> Chris wrote: > >>> > On 2022-07-26 10:29, Chris wrote: > > On 2022-07-22 08:27, Ivan Quitschal wrote: > >> hi all > >> > >> Ive been trying to solve a problem which is happening to me but so > far > >> no > >> success. > >> problem is this: > >> > >> sometimes happens, sometimes doesnt, but once im on X and do a > "F2", > >> "F3" > >> whatever > >> in order to get back to terminal, it *does* get back to terminal > but > >> the > >> screen > >> still shows like i was on X, therefore i have to do a F* twice in > order > >> to > >> see the > >> console , like an fflush was missing somewhere. > > If I'm following you correctly; you should be performing a > > Ctrl+Atl+F<1-8> > > to > TYPO sorry. That *should* have read: Ctrl+Alt+F<1-8> > >>> > >>> ...and Alt+F<1-8> to switch vtys afterwards. > >>> To get back to X, Alt+F9. > >>> > >>> You need Ctrl+ only on X, and does not work with Ctrl+ on vty<1-8>. > >>> > >>> > > Sorry. > > accomplish your goal. Does doing it that way fix it for you? > > > > HTH > > > > --Chris > >> > >> im using the drm-devel-kmod git for i915kms.ko btw > >> > >> any ideas what could it be? > >> > >> thank you guys > >> > >> --tzk > >>> > >>> > >>> -- Tomoaki AOKI > >>> > >> > >> hi > >> > >> no gyuys, i know how to go back from X to terminal, what i was saying > is > >> that by doing CTRL + ALT + F* it wasnt working until i did *another* > >> CTRL+ALT+F. > >> > >> example: > >> im getting off from X , so i do an CTRL+ALT+F2 > >> > >> nothing happens, until you do *another* CTRL+ALT+F3 . so you gotta do a > >> CTRL+ALT+F* twice in order to get back to terminal > >> > >> but i found out the problem lies within enlightenment themes, not > anything > >> else . > >> at least the problem is solved by changing EE theme, this way i can > get > >> back instantly to terminal with just ONE CTRL+ALT+F2 > >> > >> thanks > >> > >> Ivan > >> > > > > > > btw, there is something i always wanted to ask, why do we have just 9 > > terminals? > > im really asking , never understood that > > > > in my case here , im using all F* keys > > > > my /etc/ttys > > > > ttyv0 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" xterm onifexists secure > > # Virtual terminals > > ttyv1 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" xterm onifexists secure > > ttyv2 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" xterm onifexists secure > > ttyv3 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" xterm onifexists secure > > ttyv4 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" xterm onifexists secure > > ttyv5 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" xterm onifexists secure > > ttyv6 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" xterm onifexists secure > > ttyv7 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" xterm onifexists secure > > ttyv8 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" xterm onifexists secure > > ttyv9 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" xterm onifexists secure > > ttyva "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" xterm onifexists secure > > ttyvb "/usr/local/bin/xdm -nodaemon" xterm off secure > > > > > > my F-key dedicated to get back to X is F12 , as it should be IMO. > question > > is , > > why isnt it yet? > > > > im sure there is a reason, just curious because honestly i got no idea > > whatsoever > ttys(5) is fairly informative and less /etc/ttys has some info. But I > can't > remember > the history on why 9 was the default. The SUN || terminal keyboard > mapping, > maybe? > The default has 8 terminals (v0 - v7) with xdm running on v8. The great syscons rewrite of 1999 set MAXCONS to 16, but it was 16 before the rewrite. Digging further we see it was 3 in 1998 when ttys was moved to etc/etc.i386, but later expanded to 8 in July of 1999 by des with the explanation "Feed the vty monster". tl;dr: Meh, 8 seems good, since 3 was too few. Warner
Re: from X to terminal needs an fflush
On 2022-07-27 13:45, Ivan Quitschal wrote: On Wed, 27 Jul 2022, Ivan Quitschal wrote: On Tue, 26 Jul 2022, Tomoaki AOKI wrote: On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 10:30:25 -0700 Chris wrote: On 2022-07-26 10:29, Chris wrote: On 2022-07-22 08:27, Ivan Quitschal wrote: hi all Ive been trying to solve a problem which is happening to me but so far no success. problem is this: sometimes happens, sometimes doesnt, but once im on X and do a "F2", "F3" whatever in order to get back to terminal, it *does* get back to terminal but the screen still shows like i was on X, therefore i have to do a F* twice in order to see the console , like an fflush was missing somewhere. If I'm following you correctly; you should be performing a Ctrl+Atl+F<1-8> to TYPO sorry. That *should* have read: Ctrl+Alt+F<1-8> ...and Alt+F<1-8> to switch vtys afterwards. To get back to X, Alt+F9. You need Ctrl+ only on X, and does not work with Ctrl+ on vty<1-8>. Sorry. accomplish your goal. Does doing it that way fix it for you? HTH --Chris im using the drm-devel-kmod git for i915kms.ko btw any ideas what could it be? thank you guys --tzk -- Tomoaki AOKI hi no gyuys, i know how to go back from X to terminal, what i was saying is that by doing CTRL + ALT + F* it wasnt working until i did *another* CTRL+ALT+F. example: im getting off from X , so i do an CTRL+ALT+F2 nothing happens, until you do *another* CTRL+ALT+F3 . so you gotta do a CTRL+ALT+F* twice in order to get back to terminal but i found out the problem lies within enlightenment themes, not anything else . at least the problem is solved by changing EE theme, this way i can get back instantly to terminal with just ONE CTRL+ALT+F2 thanks Ivan btw, there is something i always wanted to ask, why do we have just 9 terminals? im really asking , never understood that in my case here , im using all F* keys my /etc/ttys ttyv0 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" xterm onifexists secure # Virtual terminals ttyv1 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" xterm onifexists secure ttyv2 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" xterm onifexists secure ttyv3 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" xterm onifexists secure ttyv4 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" xterm onifexists secure ttyv5 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" xterm onifexists secure ttyv6 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" xterm onifexists secure ttyv7 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" xterm onifexists secure ttyv8 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" xterm onifexists secure ttyv9 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" xterm onifexists secure ttyva "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" xterm onifexists secure ttyvb "/usr/local/bin/xdm -nodaemon" xterm off secure my F-key dedicated to get back to X is F12 , as it should be IMO. question is , why isnt it yet? im sure there is a reason, just curious because honestly i got no idea whatsoever ttys(5) is fairly informative and less /etc/ttys has some info. But I can't remember the history on why 9 was the default. The SUN || terminal keyboard mapping, maybe? --Chris --tzk 0xBDE49540.asc Description: application/pgp-keys
Re: from X to terminal needs an fflush
On Wed, 27 Jul 2022, Ivan Quitschal wrote: On Tue, 26 Jul 2022, Tomoaki AOKI wrote: On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 10:30:25 -0700 Chris wrote: On 2022-07-26 10:29, Chris wrote: On 2022-07-22 08:27, Ivan Quitschal wrote: hi all Ive been trying to solve a problem which is happening to me but so far no success. problem is this: sometimes happens, sometimes doesnt, but once im on X and do a "F2", "F3" whatever in order to get back to terminal, it *does* get back to terminal but the screen still shows like i was on X, therefore i have to do a F* twice in order to see the console , like an fflush was missing somewhere. If I'm following you correctly; you should be performing a Ctrl+Atl+F<1-8> to TYPO sorry. That *should* have read: Ctrl+Alt+F<1-8> ...and Alt+F<1-8> to switch vtys afterwards. To get back to X, Alt+F9. You need Ctrl+ only on X, and does not work with Ctrl+ on vty<1-8>. Sorry. accomplish your goal. Does doing it that way fix it for you? HTH --Chris im using the drm-devel-kmod git for i915kms.ko btw any ideas what could it be? thank you guys --tzk -- Tomoaki AOKI hi no gyuys, i know how to go back from X to terminal, what i was saying is that by doing CTRL + ALT + F* it wasnt working until i did *another* CTRL+ALT+F. example: im getting off from X , so i do an CTRL+ALT+F2 nothing happens, until you do *another* CTRL+ALT+F3 . so you gotta do a CTRL+ALT+F* twice in order to get back to terminal but i found out the problem lies within enlightenment themes, not anything else . at least the problem is solved by changing EE theme, this way i can get back instantly to terminal with just ONE CTRL+ALT+F2 thanks Ivan btw, there is something i always wanted to ask, why do we have just 9 terminals? im really asking , never understood that in my case here , im using all F* keys my /etc/ttys ttyv0 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" xterm onifexists secure # Virtual terminals ttyv1 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" xterm onifexists secure ttyv2 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" xterm onifexists secure ttyv3 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" xterm onifexists secure ttyv4 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" xterm onifexists secure ttyv5 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" xterm onifexists secure ttyv6 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" xterm onifexists secure ttyv7 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" xterm onifexists secure ttyv8 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" xterm onifexists secure ttyv9 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" xterm onifexists secure ttyva "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" xterm onifexists secure ttyvb "/usr/local/bin/xdm -nodaemon" xterm off secure my F-key dedicated to get back to X is F12 , as it should be IMO. question is , why isnt it yet? im sure there is a reason, just curious because honestly i got no idea whatsoever --tzk
Re: from X to terminal needs an fflush
On Tue, 26 Jul 2022, Tomoaki AOKI wrote: On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 10:30:25 -0700 Chris wrote: On 2022-07-26 10:29, Chris wrote: On 2022-07-22 08:27, Ivan Quitschal wrote: hi all Ive been trying to solve a problem which is happening to me but so far no success. problem is this: sometimes happens, sometimes doesnt, but once im on X and do a "F2", "F3" whatever in order to get back to terminal, it *does* get back to terminal but the screen still shows like i was on X, therefore i have to do a F* twice in order to see the console , like an fflush was missing somewhere. If I'm following you correctly; you should be performing a Ctrl+Atl+F<1-8> to TYPO sorry. That *should* have read: Ctrl+Alt+F<1-8> ...and Alt+F<1-8> to switch vtys afterwards. To get back to X, Alt+F9. You need Ctrl+ only on X, and does not work with Ctrl+ on vty<1-8>. Sorry. accomplish your goal. Does doing it that way fix it for you? HTH --Chris im using the drm-devel-kmod git for i915kms.ko btw any ideas what could it be? thank you guys --tzk -- Tomoaki AOKI hi no gyuys, i know how to go back from X to terminal, what i was saying is that by doing CTRL + ALT + F* it wasnt working until i did *another* CTRL+ALT+F. example: im getting off from X , so i do an CTRL+ALT+F2 nothing happens, until you do *another* CTRL+ALT+F3 . so you gotta do a CTRL+ALT+F* twice in order to get back to terminal but i found out the problem lies within enlightenment themes, not anything else . at least the problem is solved by changing EE theme, this way i can get back instantly to terminal with just ONE CTRL+ALT+F2 thanks Ivan
Re: from X to terminal needs an fflush
On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 10:30:25 -0700 Chris wrote: > On 2022-07-26 10:29, Chris wrote: > > On 2022-07-22 08:27, Ivan Quitschal wrote: > >> hi all > >> > >> Ive been trying to solve a problem which is happening to me but so far no > >> success. > >> problem is this: > >> > >> sometimes happens, sometimes doesnt, but once im on X and do a "F2", "F3" > >> whatever > >> in order to get back to terminal, it *does* get back to terminal but the > >> screen > >> still shows like i was on X, therefore i have to do a F* twice in order to > >> see the > >> console , like an fflush was missing somewhere. > > If I'm following you correctly; you should be performing a Ctrl+Atl+F<1-8> > > to > TYPO sorry. That *should* have read: Ctrl+Alt+F<1-8> ...and Alt+F<1-8> to switch vtys afterwards. To get back to X, Alt+F9. You need Ctrl+ only on X, and does not work with Ctrl+ on vty<1-8>. > > Sorry. > > accomplish your goal. Does doing it that way fix it for you? > > > > HTH > > > > --Chris > >> > >> im using the drm-devel-kmod git for i915kms.ko btw > >> > >> any ideas what could it be? > >> > >> thank you guys > >> > >> --tzk -- Tomoaki AOKI
Re: from X to terminal needs an fflush
On 2022-07-26 10:29, Chris wrote: On 2022-07-22 08:27, Ivan Quitschal wrote: hi all Ive been trying to solve a problem which is happening to me but so far no success. problem is this: sometimes happens, sometimes doesnt, but once im on X and do a "F2", "F3" whatever in order to get back to terminal, it *does* get back to terminal but the screen still shows like i was on X, therefore i have to do a F* twice in order to see the console , like an fflush was missing somewhere. If I'm following you correctly; you should be performing a Ctrl+Atl+F<1-8> to TYPO sorry. That *should* have read: Ctrl+Alt+F<1-8> Sorry. accomplish your goal. Does doing it that way fix it for you? HTH --Chris im using the drm-devel-kmod git for i915kms.ko btw any ideas what could it be? thank you guys --tzk 0xBDE49540.asc Description: application/pgp-keys
Re: from X to terminal needs an fflush
On 2022-07-22 08:27, Ivan Quitschal wrote: hi all Ive been trying to solve a problem which is happening to me but so far no success. problem is this: sometimes happens, sometimes doesnt, but once im on X and do a "F2", "F3" whatever in order to get back to terminal, it *does* get back to terminal but the screen still shows like i was on X, therefore i have to do a F* twice in order to see the console , like an fflush was missing somewhere. If I'm following you correctly; you should be performing a Ctrl+Atl+F<1-8> to accomplish your goal. Does doing it that way fix it for you? HTH --Chris im using the drm-devel-kmod git for i915kms.ko btw any ideas what could it be? thank you guys --tzk 0xBDE49540.asc Description: application/pgp-keys
Re: from X to terminal needs an fflush
On Fri, 22 Jul 2022, Ivan Quitschal wrote: hi all Ive been trying to solve a problem which is happening to me but so far no success. problem is this: sometimes happens, sometimes doesnt, but once im on X and do a "F2", "F3" whatever in order to get back to terminal, it *does* get back to terminal but the screen still shows like i was on X, therefore i have to do a F* twice in order to see the console , like an fflush was missing somewhere. im using the drm-devel-kmod git for i915kms.ko btw any ideas what could it be? thank you guys --tzk Hi All, Please disregard , the driver is fine. this is a problem with Enlightenment, or at least some Ee themes. Depending on the theme , the problem happens (you need to do more than one F* in order to the terminal shows up). something is holding AIGLX from being suspended right away just in case someone has the same problem. thank you --tzk
