Re: Sun StarOffice51

[Wes Peters]

Kherry Zamore wrote:
> 
> I installed Sun StarOffice 5.1 on my 4.0-CURRENT machine without any 
> modifications
> at all.. Downloaded, set the ld library path, installed and started 
> staroffice.  I
> didn't modify _any_ files at all and it runs without a problem as root.  I 
> haven't
> tried playing with it yet so users can run it, but it makes me wonder why 
> everyone
> else is having so many problems with it.

Ditto, this morning.  I already had the linuxulator loaded.  I ran the setup
from the CD, installed the app, docked it in Window Maker, and updated my
resume in 30 minutes.  Worked like a charm.

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Re: "proxy" make installworld

[John-Mark Gurney]

Mike Nowlin scribbled this message on Sep 5:
> I keep running into problems with file flags, missing files, etc. when I
> try to do an installworld on the diskless machines (with /usr/src and
> /usr/obj NFS-mounted from the server)...

hmmm... I've done this before, but it's been over a year...

> Is there any way that I can tell the server to do an installworld, but
> give it a different directory than / to "base" the install on?  (I want it
> to use /tftpboot/holly, for example.)  I probably could do something with
> chroot(8), but that introduces other problems with having to duplicate
> lots of directories.

make installworld DESTDIR=/tftpboot/holly

should do it for you...

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Re: Sun StarOffice51

[Wes Peters]

Kherry Zamore wrote:
> 
> I installed Sun StarOffice 5.1 on my 4.0-CURRENT machine without any modifications
> at all.. Downloaded, set the ld library path, installed and started staroffice.  I
> didn't modify _any_ files at all and it runs without a problem as root.  I haven't
> tried playing with it yet so users can run it, but it makes me wonder why everyone
> else is having so many problems with it.

Ditto, this morning.  I already had the linuxulator loaded.  I ran the setup
from the CD, installed the app, docked it in Window Maker, and updated my
resume in 30 minutes.  Worked like a charm.

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Re: "proxy" make installworld

[John-Mark Gurney]

Mike Nowlin scribbled this message on Sep 5:
> I keep running into problems with file flags, missing files, etc. when I
> try to do an installworld on the diskless machines (with /usr/src and
> /usr/obj NFS-mounted from the server)...

hmmm... I've done this before, but it's been over a year...

> Is there any way that I can tell the server to do an installworld, but
> give it a different directory than / to "base" the install on?  (I want it
> to use /tftpboot/holly, for example.)  I probably could do something with
> chroot(8), but that introduces other problems with having to duplicate
> lots of directories.

make installworld DESTDIR=/tftpboot/holly

should do it for you...

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"proxy" make installworld

[Mike Nowlin]

I have a couple of diskless -CURRENT machines hosted off another 3.x-C box
-- they're "full-featured", but very lightly loaded.  I can keep the host
updated fairly easily through the standard CVSUP->buildworld->installworld
methods, but am having a rough time with the diskless machines...  The
server is a PII-400, and the diskless boxes are 486/66 & 486/100 --
obviously, I'd like the -400 to do the compiles.  :)

I keep running into problems with file flags, missing files, etc. when I
try to do an installworld on the diskless machines (with /usr/src and
/usr/obj NFS-mounted from the server)...

Is there any way that I can tell the server to do an installworld, but
give it a different directory than / to "base" the install on?  (I want it
to use /tftpboot/holly, for example.)  I probably could do something with
chroot(8), but that introduces other problems with having to duplicate
lots of directories.

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"proxy" make installworld

[Mike Nowlin]

I have a couple of diskless -CURRENT machines hosted off another 3.x-C box
-- they're "full-featured", but very lightly loaded.  I can keep the host
updated fairly easily through the standard CVSUP->buildworld->installworld
methods, but am having a rough time with the diskless machines...  The
server is a PII-400, and the diskless boxes are 486/66 & 486/100 --
obviously, I'd like the -400 to do the compiles.  :)

I keep running into problems with file flags, missing files, etc. when I
try to do an installworld on the diskless machines (with /usr/src and
/usr/obj NFS-mounted from the server)...

Is there any way that I can tell the server to do an installworld, but
give it a different directory than / to "base" the install on?  (I want it
to use /tftpboot/holly, for example.)  I probably could do something with
chroot(8), but that introduces other problems with having to duplicate
lots of directories.

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K6 Write Combining & FreeBSD

[Randall Hopper]

Does FreeBSD support Write Combining on K6 processors?

Randall


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Re: FBSD3.3RC + UMAX astra 1220S + NCR810 => panic

[Kenneth D. Merry]

Rene de Vries wrote...
> Hi,
> 
> Today I bought a Umax 1220S scanner and tried to connect this to my FreeBSD
> Stable (3.3RC) system. I added a NCR810 specially for the scanner (I don't
> want such a device on the same bus as my root disk which is on an aic7890).
> The kernel boots perfectly with both scsi adapters configured
> (as expected ;-), but as soon as the scanner is connected to the NCR810
> the kernel panics.
> The scanner is the only device on that bus and termination is ok.
> The message is: "cam_periph_error: scsi status of CHECK COND returned but no
> sense information is availible. Controller should have returned
> CAM_AUTOSENSE_FAILED" (line 1441 of cam_periph.c). As far as understand the
> comments there, this means that the ncr810 driver did something cam did not
> expect. (This all happens during booting, at the time when the devices are
> probed.)
> For now I've connected the scanner to my other PC running W95 where its
> seems to work as expected.
> I hope someone can help me finding what the problem is and how to fix it.

It sounds like there may be a couple of things going on.  First, your
scanner may not be returning sense information properly.

Second, the NCR driver may be doing something wrong.

It would be helpful if you could hook this up to your 7890 controller and
see what happens.  In general, the Adaptec driver behaves a little better
than the NCR driver.

Ken
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dumps before init?

[Warner Losh]

How does one  enable dumps before init?

Warner


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K6 Write Combining & FreeBSD

[Randall Hopper]

Does FreeBSD support Write Combining on K6 processors?

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Re: UHCI / OHCI controller with no interrupt configured

[Doug Rabson]

On Sat, 4 Sep 1999, Nick Hibma wrote:

> 
> In many BIOS's today you will have to switch on USB support. The
> problem is to figure out whether or not this has been done.
> 
> The irq in any case is something like 0 or 255 / -1. Is this a valid
> testing method or is there a better way to see whether a PCI card has
> been configured?

The value 255 for intline represents "not configured" or "no interrupt".

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Re: FBSD3.3RC + UMAX astra 1220S + NCR810 => panic

[Kenneth D. Merry]

Rene de Vries wrote...
> Hi,
> 
> Today I bought a Umax 1220S scanner and tried to connect this to my FreeBSD
> Stable (3.3RC) system. I added a NCR810 specially for the scanner (I don't
> want such a device on the same bus as my root disk which is on an aic7890).
> The kernel boots perfectly with both scsi adapters configured
> (as expected ;-), but as soon as the scanner is connected to the NCR810
> the kernel panics.
> The scanner is the only device on that bus and termination is ok.
> The message is: "cam_periph_error: scsi status of CHECK COND returned but no
> sense information is availible. Controller should have returned
> CAM_AUTOSENSE_FAILED" (line 1441 of cam_periph.c). As far as understand the
> comments there, this means that the ncr810 driver did something cam did not
> expect. (This all happens during booting, at the time when the devices are
> probed.)
> For now I've connected the scanner to my other PC running W95 where its
> seems to work as expected.
> I hope someone can help me finding what the problem is and how to fix it.

It sounds like there may be a couple of things going on.  First, your
scanner may not be returning sense information properly.

Second, the NCR driver may be doing something wrong.

It would be helpful if you could hook this up to your 7890 controller and
see what happens.  In general, the Adaptec driver behaves a little better
than the NCR driver.

Ken
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dumps before init?

[Warner Losh]

How does one  enable dumps before init?

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Re: UHCI / OHCI controller with no interrupt configured

[Doug Rabson]

On Sat, 4 Sep 1999, Nick Hibma wrote:

> 
> In many BIOS's today you will have to switch on USB support. The
> problem is to figure out whether or not this has been done.
> 
> The irq in any case is something like 0 or 255 / -1. Is this a valid
> testing method or is there a better way to see whether a PCI card has
> been configured?

The value 255 for intline represents "not configured" or "no interrupt".

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Re: Seagate STT8000A (ATAPI/IDE) on FreeBSD? (fwd)

[David Krinsky]

On Sat, Sep 04, 1999 at 08:34:15PM +0200, Soren Schmidt (s...@freebsd.dk) wrote:
> 
> What kindof chipset is your motherboard using ??
> Are you overclocking ?? If not what is you PCI bus clock ??

440BX/AGP.  It's an ASUS P2B-S motherboard, with a PIII-450.  I'm not 
overclocking, so I would assume the bus clock is 100MHz.

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Re: Seagate STT8000A (ATAPI/IDE) on FreeBSD? (fwd)

[David Krinsky]

On Sat, Sep 04, 1999 at 08:34:15PM +0200, Soren Schmidt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
> What kindof chipset is your motherboard using ??
> Are you overclocking ?? If not what is you PCI bus clock ??

440BX/AGP.  It's an ASUS P2B-S motherboard, with a PIII-450.  I'm not 
overclocking, so I would assume the bus clock is 100MHz.

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Re: UCB removes advertising clause

[Nick Hibma]

> I'd say we don't want to. Give credit where credit is due, even when 
> there is no lawyer in sight to force you.
> 
> My NLG 0.02

That's 0.01 Euro, love.

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Re: Seagate STT8000A (ATAPI/IDE) on FreeBSD? (fwd)

[Warner Losh]

In message <199909041834.uaa16...@freebsd.dk> Soren Schmidt writes:
: What kindof chipset is your motherboard using ??
: Are you overclocking ?? If not what is you PCI bus clock ??
: 
: I'm pretty sure this is the same problem that haunted me with the
: old driver, and if I'm not mistaken it is timing related..

Soren's old driver and my STT8000 didn't get along well at all.  I was
using the PPro Natoma chipset.  The new driver just works for me.

Warner


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Re: Seagate STT8000A (ATAPI/IDE) on FreeBSD? (fwd)

[Warner Losh]

In message <19990904125146.a...@bantha.org> David Krinsky writes:
: Thanks for the suggestion, though.  dd is the magic bullet in so many
: situations, it's always worth a shot.  :-)

I don't know if cleaning the tape heads might help.  Also, I've had
one bad tape that wouldn't ever work, but changing tapes seemed to
help.

Warner


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UHCI / OHCI controller with no interrupt configured

[Nick Hibma]

In many BIOS's today you will have to switch on USB support. The
problem is to figure out whether or not this has been done.

The irq in any case is something like 0 or 255 / -1. Is this a valid
testing method or is there a better way to see whether a PCI card has
been configured?


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Re: Seagate STT8000A (ATAPI/IDE) on FreeBSD? (fwd)

[Soren Schmidt]

It seems David Krinsky wrote:
> 
> > Also, make sure that your drive is good.  I had one I had to return
> > because it was bad.  Soren said the driver worked, and I could never
> > get it working for me.  The replacement worked like a charm.
> 
> Well, it's brand-new, and I didn't get it at a garage sale.  :-)
> We know it's got a write head;  I've succeeded at doing
> backups and restores of small directory hierarchies, so I kind of
> doubt it's the drive...

What kindof chipset is your motherboard using ??
Are you overclocking ?? If not what is you PCI bus clock ??

I'm pretty sure this is the same problem that haunted me with the
old driver, and if I'm not mistaken it is timing related..

-Søren


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Re: UCB removes advertising clause

[Nick Hibma]

> I'd say we don't want to. Give credit where credit is due, even when 
> there is no lawyer in sight to force you.
> 
> My NLG 0.02

That's 0.01 Euro, love.

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Re: Seagate STT8000A (ATAPI/IDE) on FreeBSD? (fwd)

[Warner Losh]

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Soren Schmidt writes:
: What kindof chipset is your motherboard using ??
: Are you overclocking ?? If not what is you PCI bus clock ??
: 
: I'm pretty sure this is the same problem that haunted me with the
: old driver, and if I'm not mistaken it is timing related..

Soren's old driver and my STT8000 didn't get along well at all.  I was
using the PPro Natoma chipset.  The new driver just works for me.

Warner


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Re: FBSD3.3RC + UMAX astra 1220S + NCR810 => panic

[Randy Bush]

> Today I bought a Umax 1220S scanner

so did i.  it did not even work on win95.  after rmaing it twice, i told
them to keep the piece of  and went out and got a better product.

randy


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Re: Seagate STT8000A (ATAPI/IDE) on FreeBSD? (fwd)

[Warner Losh]

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> David Krinsky writes:
: Thanks for the suggestion, though.  dd is the magic bullet in so many
: situations, it's always worth a shot.  :-)

I don't know if cleaning the tape heads might help.  Also, I've had
one bad tape that wouldn't ever work, but changing tapes seemed to
help.

Warner


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UHCI / OHCI controller with no interrupt configured

[Nick Hibma]

In many BIOS's today you will have to switch on USB support. The
problem is to figure out whether or not this has been done.

The irq in any case is something like 0 or 255 / -1. Is this a valid
testing method or is there a better way to see whether a PCI card has
been configured?


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FBSD3.3RC + UMAX astra 1220S + NCR810 => panic

[Rene de Vries]

Hi,

Today I bought a Umax 1220S scanner and tried to connect this to my FreeBSD
Stable (3.3RC) system. I added a NCR810 specially for the scanner (I don't
want such a device on the same bus as my root disk which is on an aic7890).
The kernel boots perfectly with both scsi adapters configured
(as expected ;-), but as soon as the scanner is connected to the NCR810
the kernel panics.
The scanner is the only device on that bus and termination is ok.
The message is: "cam_periph_error: scsi status of CHECK COND returned but no
sense information is availible. Controller should have returned
CAM_AUTOSENSE_FAILED" (line 1441 of cam_periph.c). As far as understand the
comments there, this means that the ncr810 driver did something cam did not
expect. (This all happens during booting, at the time when the devices are
probed.)
For now I've connected the scanner to my other PC running W95 where its
seems to work as expected.
I hope someone can help me finding what the problem is and how to fix it.

Thanks,
Rene
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Re: Seagate STT8000A (ATAPI/IDE) on FreeBSD? (fwd)

[Soren Schmidt]

It seems David Krinsky wrote:
> 
> > Also, make sure that your drive is good.  I had one I had to return
> > because it was bad.  Soren said the driver worked, and I could never
> > get it working for me.  The replacement worked like a charm.
> 
> Well, it's brand-new, and I didn't get it at a garage sale.  :-)
> We know it's got a write head;  I've succeeded at doing
> backups and restores of small directory hierarchies, so I kind of
> doubt it's the drive...

What kindof chipset is your motherboard using ??
Are you overclocking ?? If not what is you PCI bus clock ??

I'm pretty sure this is the same problem that haunted me with the
old driver, and if I'm not mistaken it is timing related..

-Søren


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Re: UCB removes advertising clause

[Wilko Bulte]

As Oscar Bonilla wrote ...
> On Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 12:23:38PM -0700, Brian W. Buchanan wrote:
> > This is apparently old news, but I don't recall seeing anything about it
> > on the lists, and didn't hear about it until it hit Slashdot a short while
> > ago.
> > 
> > ftp://ftp.cs.berkeley.edu/pub/4bsd/README.Impt.License.Change:
> > 
> > July 22, 1999
> > 
> 
> Yeah, McKusick talked about this last usenix, he said he was trying to
> convince UCB of how useless this clause was... seems he made it :)
> 
> does that mean we can get rid of the copyright of the University at
> boot time?  do we want to?

I'd say we don't want to. Give credit where credit is due, even when 
there is no lawyer in sight to force you.

My NLG 0.02

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Re: FBSD3.3RC + UMAX astra 1220S + NCR810 => panic

[Randy Bush]

> Today I bought a Umax 1220S scanner

so did i.  it did not even work on win95.  after rmaing it twice, i told
them to keep the piece of  and went out and got a better product.

randy


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FBSD3.3RC + UMAX astra 1220S + NCR810 => panic

[Rene de Vries]

Hi,

Today I bought a Umax 1220S scanner and tried to connect this to my FreeBSD
Stable (3.3RC) system. I added a NCR810 specially for the scanner (I don't
want such a device on the same bus as my root disk which is on an aic7890).
The kernel boots perfectly with both scsi adapters configured
(as expected ;-), but as soon as the scanner is connected to the NCR810
the kernel panics.
The scanner is the only device on that bus and termination is ok.
The message is: "cam_periph_error: scsi status of CHECK COND returned but no
sense information is availible. Controller should have returned
CAM_AUTOSENSE_FAILED" (line 1441 of cam_periph.c). As far as understand the
comments there, this means that the ncr810 driver did something cam did not
expect. (This all happens during booting, at the time when the devices are
probed.)
For now I've connected the scanner to my other PC running W95 where its
seems to work as expected.
I hope someone can help me finding what the problem is and how to fix it.

Thanks,
Rene
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sockbuf starvation solution

[Brian F. Feldman]

I do need help completeing this little project. Basically, the sockbuf
starvation problem can be solved by using administrative restrictions
on total sockbuf size. So far, I have things almost working. The only
problem is that on PF_LOCAL SOCK_STREAMS (or at least that's where it
shows up) there is a problewm with the sbsize not being adjusted
correctly. I wish it were easier to solve, but I really need help.

The problem is the KASSERT() I added to make sure sbsize did not drop
below zero (to catch this exact problem.) It gets tripped, and I can't
seem to figure out why it drops below zero. I'd really appreciate it 
if anyone with with the ability to help debug this would.

It's up at:
http://www.FreeBSD.org/~green/sbsize2.patch

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Re: Sun StarOffice51

[Kherry Zamore]

I installed Sun StarOffice 5.1 on my 4.0-CURRENT machine without any 
modifications
at all.. Downloaded, set the ld library path, installed and started staroffice. 
 I
didn't modify _any_ files at all and it runs without a problem as root.  I 
haven't
tried playing with it yet so users can run it, but it makes me wonder why 
everyone
else is having so many problems with it.


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Re: Seagate STT8000A (ATAPI/IDE) on FreeBSD? (fwd)

[David Krinsky]

On Fri, Sep 03, 1999 at 11:23:32PM -0600, Warner Losh (i...@village.org) wrote:
> In message <19990903233326.a...@bantha.org> David Krinsky writes:
> : Any ideas?  I'm quite happy to help debug this one, if you have any
> : thoughts on where to go with it--I need to get backups working, and
> : I'd much rather not have to buy a new tape drive or switch OSes...
> 
> reboot.  dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/tape count=1000 bs=24k.
> 
> Then see if you still have the problem.  I've seen errors like the
> ones you reported, but this fixed it for me.

Yep.  

Or rather, the dd itself triggers the error.

> Also, make sure that your drive is good.  I had one I had to return
> because it was bad.  Soren said the driver worked, and I could never
> get it working for me.  The replacement worked like a charm.

Well, it's brand-new, and I didn't get it at a garage sale.  :-)
We know it's got a write head;  I've succeeded at doing
backups and restores of small directory hierarchies, so I kind of
doubt it's the drive...

Thanks for the suggestion, though.  dd is the magic bullet in so many
situations, it's always worth a shot.  :-)

Dave.


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Re: UCB removes advertising clause

[Wilko Bulte]

As Oscar Bonilla wrote ...
> On Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 12:23:38PM -0700, Brian W. Buchanan wrote:
> > This is apparently old news, but I don't recall seeing anything about it
> > on the lists, and didn't hear about it until it hit Slashdot a short while
> > ago.
> > 
> > ftp://ftp.cs.berkeley.edu/pub/4bsd/README.Impt.License.Change:
> > 
> > July 22, 1999
> > 
> 
> Yeah, McKusick talked about this last usenix, he said he was trying to
> convince UCB of how useless this clause was... seems he made it :)
> 
> does that mean we can get rid of the copyright of the University at
> boot time?  do we want to?

I'd say we don't want to. Give credit where credit is due, even when 
there is no lawyer in sight to force you.

My NLG 0.02

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sockbuf starvation solution

[Brian F. Feldman]

I do need help completeing this little project. Basically, the sockbuf
starvation problem can be solved by using administrative restrictions
on total sockbuf size. So far, I have things almost working. The only
problem is that on PF_LOCAL SOCK_STREAMS (or at least that's where it
shows up) there is a problewm with the sbsize not being adjusted
correctly. I wish it were easier to solve, but I really need help.

The problem is the KASSERT() I added to make sure sbsize did not drop
below zero (to catch this exact problem.) It gets tripped, and I can't
seem to figure out why it drops below zero. I'd really appreciate it 
if anyone with with the ability to help debug this would.

It's up at:
http://www.FreeBSD.org/~green/sbsize2.patch

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Re: Sun StarOffice51

[Kherry Zamore]

I installed Sun StarOffice 5.1 on my 4.0-CURRENT machine without any modifications
at all.. Downloaded, set the ld library path, installed and started staroffice.  I
didn't modify _any_ files at all and it runs without a problem as root.  I haven't
tried playing with it yet so users can run it, but it makes me wonder why everyone
else is having so many problems with it.


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Re: Seagate STT8000A (ATAPI/IDE) on FreeBSD? (fwd)

[David Krinsky]

On Fri, Sep 03, 1999 at 11:23:32PM -0600, Warner Losh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> David Krinsky writes:
> : Any ideas?  I'm quite happy to help debug this one, if you have any
> : thoughts on where to go with it--I need to get backups working, and
> : I'd much rather not have to buy a new tape drive or switch OSes...
> 
> reboot.  dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/tape count=1000 bs=24k.
> 
> Then see if you still have the problem.  I've seen errors like the
> ones you reported, but this fixed it for me.

Yep.  

Or rather, the dd itself triggers the error.

> Also, make sure that your drive is good.  I had one I had to return
> because it was bad.  Soren said the driver worked, and I could never
> get it working for me.  The replacement worked like a charm.

Well, it's brand-new, and I didn't get it at a garage sale.  :-)
We know it's got a write head;  I've succeeded at doing
backups and restores of small directory hierarchies, so I kind of
doubt it's the drive...

Thanks for the suggestion, though.  dd is the magic bullet in so many
situations, it's always worth a shot.  :-)

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Re: Sun StarOffice51

[Andreas Klemm]

On Fri, Sep 03, 1999 at 09:29:25PM +0200, Ollivier Robert wrote:
> According to Christopher T. Griffiths:
> > also, I did notice that the versions of the libs had changed from 6 to 7.
> 
> If you have a recent CURRENT or STABLE, read on:
> 
> It seems that we may need to edit one of the library again. See the message 
> to 
> -hackers (<199909011812.oaa29...@misha.cisco.com> by Mikhail Teterin).
> 
> mv libosl516li.so libosl516li.so.bak
> sed -e 's,/proc/%u/cmdline,/compat/linux/so,' \
> < libosl516li.so.bak > libosl516li.so
> touch /compat/linux/so
> 
> (replace 516 by 517).

Could somebody please do a port, so that it doesn't take
N people's time to get it installed ?

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Re: Sun StarOffice51

[Andreas Klemm]

On Fri, Sep 03, 1999 at 09:29:25PM +0200, Ollivier Robert wrote:
> According to Christopher T. Griffiths:
> > also, I did notice that the versions of the libs had changed from 6 to 7.
> 
> If you have a recent CURRENT or STABLE, read on:
> 
> It seems that we may need to edit one of the library again. See the message to 
> -hackers (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> by Mikhail Teterin).
> 
> mv libosl516li.so libosl516li.so.bak
> sed -e 's,/proc/%u/cmdline,/compat/linux/so,' \
> < libosl516li.so.bak > libosl516li.so
> touch /compat/linux/so
> 
> (replace 516 by 517).

Could somebody please do a port, so that it doesn't take
N people's time to get it installed ?

Andreas ///

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Re: systat -- "The alternate system clock has died"...

[Geoff Buckingham]

On Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 01:43:32AM -0700, Jaye Mathisen wrote:
> 
> Hmph.  Fired up systat on a recently supped 3.2-stable box (aug 30).  
> Typed :vm, and the screen cleared, it drew the labels, then sat there for
> a few seconds, then said:
> 
>   "The alternate system clock has died, reverting to pigs display".
> 
> However, that display shows no useful info either.  :netstat works,
> :iostat works :icmp works, but pigs and :vmstat  are no shows.
> 
> Anybody else seeing this?  Or is it make world time again...?
> 
> It works fine on a box supped in july and Aug 24th...
> 
> It's an ASUS P2B-DS MB.  (The july box and this box, are both dual CPU,
> the August 24th box is a single processor.)
> 
> 
Is this an SMP box? Possible with an ASUS board? If so it will probably work
with a non SMP kernel. If all of the above is true  try searching the lists
for that error message and SMP and ASUS or combinations there of for solutions
the cleanest allthough I have never tried it seemed to be to flash the BIOS
to a pre Y2K fix version (You are probably better of trusting the archives 
than my memory as to which version this was)

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> 
> 
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Re: gdb and source forking

[Doug Rabson]

On Fri, 3 Sep 1999, Kip Macy wrote:

> I have not looked closely, but it appears that the changes to bfd to
> support the solib.c changes have been quite extensive. The diff of the
> .c files in bfd/ is 7000 lines long. 
> 
> I know that interacting with the FSF can be unenjoyable but gdb compiles
> and runs fine on all other OSs I have used. So if the solaris and linux
> crowds can keep the modifications consistent why can't we? 
> Thanks for any insight.

We have have not made any significant changes to bfd. We are using
binutils-2.9.1 in our tree since 2.9.2 has not been released (gdb-4.18 was
based on a snapshot of 2.9.2).

The linux folks often just bundle patches with the gdb sources which is
not much different from us importing FSF sources into our CVS tree. We can
generate diffs from the virgin FSF sources very easily.


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Re: CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

[Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai]

* Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami (as...@freebsd.org) [990903 12:14]:
> * From: Jonathan Lemon 
>
> * hw.clockrate:   132 
>
> * Doing this for Pentium and better systems should be trivial.  Doing
> * it for 486 and lower would just add a timing loop.  Doing it for SMP
> * would be harder.
> * 
> * hw.cpu0.clockrate:  233
> * hw.cpu1.clockrate:  233
> * 
> * Possibly?  The implementer gets to pick a better name than these.
>
>hw.clockrate.cpu0: 233
>hw.clockrate.cpu1: 233
>
>(cpu0 only for uni-procs, of course).

This sounds like a good solution.

I don't know why we can't detect speed on SMP boxes and I doubt the
code will make things clear to me [seeing my third rank coding
abilities].

But we could probe the first CPU, get it's clockspeed and since it's
SMP be certain that all other CPU's would have the same speed.
This might not be the cleanest solution should AMP type systems ever
surface. [If they ever]

Else, anyone care to detail exactly why we can't detect it?

cheers,

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Re: systat -- "The alternate system clock has died"...

[Geoff Buckingham]

On Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 01:43:32AM -0700, Jaye Mathisen wrote:
> 
> Hmph.  Fired up systat on a recently supped 3.2-stable box (aug 30).  
> Typed :vm, and the screen cleared, it drew the labels, then sat there for
> a few seconds, then said:
> 
>   "The alternate system clock has died, reverting to pigs display".
> 
> However, that display shows no useful info either.  :netstat works,
> :iostat works :icmp works, but pigs and :vmstat  are no shows.
> 
> Anybody else seeing this?  Or is it make world time again...?
> 
> It works fine on a box supped in july and Aug 24th...
> 
> It's an ASUS P2B-DS MB.  (The july box and this box, are both dual CPU,
> the August 24th box is a single processor.)
> 
> 
Is this an SMP box? Possible with an ASUS board? If so it will probably work
with a non SMP kernel. If all of the above is true  try searching the lists
for that error message and SMP and ASUS or combinations there of for solutions
the cleanest allthough I have never tried it seemed to be to flash the BIOS
to a pre Y2K fix version (You are probably better of trusting the archives 
than my memory as to which version this was)

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> 
> 
> 
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Re: CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

[Peter Wemm]

Oliver Fromme wrote:
> Nick Sayer wrote in list.freebsd-hackers:
>  > Linux generates a meric of CPU performance as a byproduct of calibrating
>  > a delay loop.
> 
> It's not a metric of CPU performance.  It's just a meaningless
> number, and its relation to the actual performance of the
> machine is very questionable.

My evil streak makes me want to do something like this under boot -v, but
with a twist... Figure out a vague partity with the Linux numbers and then
make sure it reports about 3 times higher along with something like this:

"This cpu rates X (meaningless) bogomips.."

.. where the reported number is significantly higher than linux would
report on the same hardware...  That would serve two purposes... one to
undermine the ``benchmark'' and the other to tease the various clueless
folks with.

Cheers,
-Peter



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Re: gdb and source forking

[Doug Rabson]

On Fri, 3 Sep 1999, Kip Macy wrote:

> I have not looked closely, but it appears that the changes to bfd to
> support the solib.c changes have been quite extensive. The diff of the
> .c files in bfd/ is 7000 lines long. 
> 
> I know that interacting with the FSF can be unenjoyable but gdb compiles
> and runs fine on all other OSs I have used. So if the solaris and linux
> crowds can keep the modifications consistent why can't we? 
> Thanks for any insight.

We have have not made any significant changes to bfd. We are using
binutils-2.9.1 in our tree since 2.9.2 has not been released (gdb-4.18 was
based on a snapshot of 2.9.2).

The linux folks often just bundle patches with the gdb sources which is
not much different from us importing FSF sources into our CVS tree. We can
generate diffs from the virgin FSF sources very easily.


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Re: CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

[Wilko Bulte]

As Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami wrote ...
>  * From: Wilko Bulte 
> 
>  * As Chris Costello wrote ...
> 
>  * >I don't think the local Ports Wraith would be amazingly happy
>  * 
>  * No. He will turn into a Ports Wrath
> 
> Hey, if you're going to make fun of me, at least CC: me or something
> so I know! ;)

"The Wrath of Satoshi" (free interpretation of "The Wrath of Khan")
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Re: CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

[Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai]

* Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [990903 12:14]:
> * From: Jonathan Lemon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> * hw.clockrate:   132 
>
> * Doing this for Pentium and better systems should be trivial.  Doing
> * it for 486 and lower would just add a timing loop.  Doing it for SMP
> * would be harder.
> * 
> * hw.cpu0.clockrate:  233
> * hw.cpu1.clockrate:  233
> * 
> * Possibly?  The implementer gets to pick a better name than these.
>
>hw.clockrate.cpu0: 233
>hw.clockrate.cpu1: 233
>
>(cpu0 only for uni-procs, of course).

This sounds like a good solution.

I don't know why we can't detect speed on SMP boxes and I doubt the
code will make things clear to me [seeing my third rank coding
abilities].

But we could probe the first CPU, get it's clockspeed and since it's
SMP be certain that all other CPU's would have the same speed.
This might not be the cleanest solution should AMP type systems ever
surface. [If they ever]

Else, anyone care to detail exactly why we can't detect it?

cheers,

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Re: CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

[Peter Wemm]

Oliver Fromme wrote:
> Nick Sayer wrote in list.freebsd-hackers:
>  > Linux generates a meric of CPU performance as a byproduct of calibrating
>  > a delay loop.
> 
> It's not a metric of CPU performance.  It's just a meaningless
> number, and its relation to the actual performance of the
> machine is very questionable.

My evil streak makes me want to do something like this under boot -v, but
with a twist... Figure out a vague partity with the Linux numbers and then
make sure it reports about 3 times higher along with something like this:

"This cpu rates X (meaningless) bogomips.."

.. where the reported number is significantly higher than linux would
report on the same hardware...  That would serve two purposes... one to
undermine the ``benchmark'' and the other to tease the various clueless
folks with.

Cheers,
-Peter



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Re: CFD: "bogomips" CPU performance metric

[Wilko Bulte]

As Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami wrote ...
>  * From: Wilko Bulte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
>  * As Chris Costello wrote ...
> 
>  * >I don't think the local Ports Wraith would be amazingly happy
>  * 
>  * No. He will turn into a Ports Wrath
> 
> Hey, if you're going to make fun of me, at least CC: me or something
> so I know! ;)

"The Wrath of Satoshi" (free interpretation of "The Wrath of Khan")
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