Re: Can anybody terminate an IP-IP tunnel for me?

2007-06-08 Thread Stefan Bethke

Am 08.06.2007 um 05:41 schrieb Greg 'groggy' Lehey:


How do I terminate the IP-IP tunnel at my end?


I'm using OpenVPN for similar porposes, albeit on lower latency DSL  
links.  OpenVPN can run over UDP or TCP, and can work through NAT,  
and even with dynamic IPs.



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Re: Can anybody terminate an IP-IP tunnel for me?

2007-06-08 Thread Stefan Bethke

Am 08.06.2007 um 17:47 schrieb Oliver Fromme:


While OpenVPN works well usually, it is generally not
advisable to run it over TCP, especially if your link
is not guaranteed to have 0% packet loss, which might
be the case for satellite links.  Running OpenVPN over
UDP is fine.


Sure, but slightly less than perfect connectivity is still better  
than none: being stuck on a corporate network, where you can use the  
proxy to establish a TCP connection to port 443, for example.



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Re: Can anybody terminate an IP-IP tunnel for me?

2007-06-08 Thread Oliver Fromme
Stefan Bethke wrote:
  Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
   How do I terminate the IP-IP tunnel at my end?
  
  I'm using OpenVPN for similar porposes, albeit on lower latency DSL  
  links.  OpenVPN can run over UDP or TCP, and can work through NAT,  
  and even with dynamic IPs.

While OpenVPN works well usually, it is generally not
advisable to run it over TCP, especially if your link
is not guaranteed to have 0% packet loss, which might
be the case for satellite links.  Running OpenVPN over
UDP is fine.

That problem has been discussed and explained quite
often in various forums.  Here's one of them:

http://sites.inka.de/sites/bigred/devel/tcp-tcp.html

I've used OpenVPN myself to tunnel official IP addresses
to my (dynamic) DSL link at home.  You need to have a
server outside somewhere, of course, but that shouldn't
be a problem.  Here in .de you can rent a good root server
for = 50 Euro per month (good means you can install
FreeBSD remotely without difficulty).  I guess it's not
much different in .au or elsewhere in the world.
And if you share it with a few friends or collegues, then
the costs are even less.  That's how I've done it; I share
a 50 Euro root server with three friends, so I pay only
12,50 per month.

Best regards
   Oliver

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Re: Can anybody terminate an IP-IP tunnel for me?

2007-06-08 Thread mjacob



I've used OpenVPN myself to tunnel official IP addresses
to my (dynamic) DSL link at home.  You need to have a
server outside somewhere, of course, but that shouldn't


I find that vtun is a pretty reliable and less heavyweight solution for 
this- I use it to get a tunnel to a secondary lab of mine (at my mom's 
house) which only has dynamic IP.


The only problem here is that this isn't a solution for providing 
routing for somebody else's Class C block.


-matt

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Re: Can anybody terminate an IP-IP tunnel for me?

2007-06-08 Thread Achim Patzner

On 08.06.2007, at 20:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The only problem here is that this isn't a solution for providing  
routing for somebody else's Class C block.


Why?

inetnum:  192.109.197.0 - 192.109.197.255
netname:  LEMIS-LAN
descr:LEMIS Lehey Microcomputer Systems
descr:D-W-6324 Feldatal
descr:Germany
country:  DE
admin-c:  GL3-RIPE
tech-c:   GL3-RIPE
rev-srv:  allegro.lemis.de
rev-srv:  ns.cls.net
rev-srv:  ns.maz.net
mnt-by:   AS2871-MNT
status:   ASSIGNED PI
source:   RIPE # Filtered

Its current provider was able to add it to their AS, too so it  
shouldn't be that much of a problem in Australia. I remember my ISP  
(QSC Germany) being a bit too... unexperienced at first so they sent  
me on to one of their resellers (who knew how to configure BGP) and  
they warned me that they wouldn't accept anything less than a /22 but  
things might be a bit different on the wrong side of the planet.


I'd just get the defunct rev-srv records out of the database entry  
and send an update for the ownership records.



Achim


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Re: Can anybody terminate an IP-IP tunnel for me?

2007-06-08 Thread mjacob





On 08.06.2007, at 20:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The only problem here is that this isn't a solution for providing routing 
for somebody else's Class C block.


Why?

inetnum:  192.109.197.0 - 192.109.197.255
netname:  LEMIS-LAN
descr:LEMIS Lehey Microcomputer Systems
descr:D-W-6324 Feldatal
descr:Germany
country:  DE
admin-c:  GL3-RIPE
tech-c:   GL3-RIPE
rev-srv:  allegro.lemis.de
rev-srv:  ns.cls.net
rev-srv:  ns.maz.net
mnt-by:   AS2871-MNT
status:   ASSIGNED PI
source:   RIPE # Filtered

Its current provider was able to add it to their AS, too so it shouldn't be 
that much of a problem in Australia. I remember my ISP (QSC Germany) being a 
bit too... unexperienced at first so they sent me on to one of their 
resellers (who knew how to configure BGP) and they warned me that they 
wouldn't accept anything less than a /22 but things might be a bit different 
on the wrong side of the planet.


I'd just get the defunct rev-srv records out of the database entry and send 
an update for the ownership records.


In general ISPs are now very reluctant do less than a /22 or larget if 
it's not carved out of one of their blocks. It was a fair amount of 
hunting around in Menlo Park for me to find somebody to route FERAL.COM, 
and the big home serving ISPs like Sprint and Yahoo!/SBC were completely 
clueless about being asked if they would do so- even for a fee.


-matt

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Can anybody terminate an IP-IP tunnel for me?

2007-06-07 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
In a few weeks' time I'll be moving house, and it looks as if the new
address currently doesn't have ADSL, so I'll be forced to use
satellite again.  I've done some investigation, and the costs don't
look too prohibitive, but almost nobody is prepared to route my /24
net block (192.109.197.0/24).

One alternative would be to route the block through an IP-IP tunnel
from somewhere else in the Internet.  I see a couple of potential
problems with this approach:

* I need somebody to provide the service.  Do you know of anybody who
  can help here, for a reasonable price, or can you help yourself?
  Somewhere in Australia would be better, but given the satellite
  delay it could be almost anywhere in the world.  I'd be looking to
  route about 2 GB a month, and the download speed of the satellite
  link is limited to 1 MB/s.

* How do I terminate the IP-IP tunnel at my end?  The last time I used
  it, I had a static IP address for the end of the link, and another
  for the end of the tunnel, which implies routing that address.  This
  won't work in the scenario I'm looking at.  Is it possible to route
  the tunnel to the same address as the external interface IP address?
  Alternatively, is there another way to handle this issue?

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IP tunnel

2000-05-22 Thread Nick Rogness


Can anyone tell me the difference between nos-tun(8) and gif(4) (Other
than IPv6)?  I want to create a tunnel between 2 networks (IPv4), 2
FreeBSD boxes... will one of these work or is this a different type
of tunnel.  I am familiar with Cisco tunnelling, I am assuming a similar
concept.  Anyone doing this already, if so sample configs?  Is it
possible?

Thanks.

Nick Rogness
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Re: IP tunnel

2000-05-22 Thread Mike Nowlin


 Can anyone tell me the difference between nos-tun(8) and gif(4) (Other
 than IPv6)?  I want to create a tunnel between 2 networks (IPv4), 2
 FreeBSD boxes... will one of these work or is this a different type
 of tunnel.  I am familiar with Cisco tunnelling, I am assuming a similar
 concept.  Anyone doing this already, if so sample configs?  Is it
 possible?

I'm using nos-tun(8) between Cisco 2610/1720 routers and FBSD machines to
make various subnets show up where they shouldn't...  I have a /24 at one
office and a /25 at another one -- wanted to have a /29 from each of these
appear at my house.  

Works quite well...

mike




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