Re: portmanager modifying bsd.port.mk

2009-03-10 Thread Chuck Robey
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Doug Barton wrote:
 Chuck Robey wrote:
 Just before sending my mail, I took a look at the cvs log, last entry is from
 more than 6 months ago, unless something is somehow fubared with my archive. 
  If
 it sits unchanged for so long, I interpreted that as being dead, I wasn't 
 trying
 to be insulting, maybe I made an incorrect assumption.
 
 The last change to portmaster (minor bug fixes and one minor new
 feature) was just shy of 6 months after the previous change, but I
 assure you that it's very much alive. :)  Just because an existing
 feature set is more or less mature doesn't mean that the project is dead.
 
 Doug
 

Doug, we were speaking of portmanager, not portmaster (about which I'm utterly
innocent).  Being thjat this is ports, not -chat, I think we shouldn't just
launch out at random (although I'd enjoy that personally.)  If you want to
continue this in any direction other than portmanager, maybe you could either
move this to freebsd-chat, or make it private (no list in the CC:?)
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Re: portmanager modifying bsd.port.mk

2009-03-10 Thread Freddie Cash
On March 10, 2009 10:05 am Chuck Robey wrote:
 Doug Barton wrote:
  Chuck Robey wrote:
  Just before sending my mail, I took a look at the cvs log, last entry
  is from more than 6 months ago, unless something is somehow fubared
  with my archive.  If it sits unchanged for so long, I interpreted that
  as being dead, I wasn't trying to be insulting, maybe I made an
  incorrect assumption.
 
  The last change to portmaster (minor bug fixes and one minor new
  feature) was just shy of 6 months after the previous change, but I
  assure you that it's very much alive. :)  Just because an existing
  feature set is more or less mature doesn't mean that the project is
  dead.

 Doug, we were speaking of portmanager, not portmaster (about which I'm
 utterly innocent).  Being thjat this is ports, not -chat, I think we
 shouldn't just launch out at random (although I'd enjoy that personally.)
  If you want to continue this in any direction other than portmanager,
 maybe you could either move this to freebsd-chat, or make it private (no
 list in the CC:?) ___

I believe he was just trying to make the point that just because there 
hasn't been any patches posted in 6 months, doesn't mean a project is dead.  
Not trying to steer the conversation over to portmaster.

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Re: portmanager modifying bsd.port.mk

2009-03-10 Thread Doug Barton
Chuck Robey wrote:
 Doug, we were speaking of portmanager, not portmaster 

I realize that. I was simply attempting to support Robert's point. I
could have used several other mature ports that I maintain as
examples but I thought I'd try to stay as close to on topic as
possible.

My apologies if you feel I've wasted your time.


Doug

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Re: portmanager modifying bsd.port.mk

2009-03-09 Thread RW
I think this was probably intended for the list rather than me:

On Mar 8, 4:04 pm, RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote:
 On Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:40:08 -0400

 Chuck Robey chu...@telenix.org wrote:  
  Here's the portmanager listing, maybe someone here can tell me
  what's causing portmanager to want to patch my bsd.port.mk, and why
  the patchfile should be so far off, and what might be the CORRECT
  way to fix this.  Oh, BTW, I run current, and keep myself that way
  via cvsup..  

 IIRC the patch was made so that when portmanager built a port, the
 makefile would call back into  portmanager to let it modify the
 dependencies. Portmanager had a major rewrite just before the
  original author had a row with some FreeBSD people and abandoned the
 project. AFAIK the feature wasn't yet used, so it doesn't matter if
 the patch doesn't apply since it's a null operation.


I'm the original author of portmanager,  haven't done anything bsd
related in a few years so memory is a bit vague.
I think the patch was to correct a sorting problem with dependencies
in freebsd make. I filed a pr against make
and was assured there was no way it would ever approved so that patch
is a work around.  If it is failing, isn't really
 a big surprise, means something has changed in make finally.  Best
solution I guess is to determine if make
was fixed somewhere along the line, maybey look up the pr i filed
agains make? if its fixed now, then remove the patch,
if not, then someone who understands scripts needs to recut the
patch.   I drive a semi for a living now and seriously
doubt I'll ever take up programming again for lack of time, so very
sorry I'm not able to provide more help with this problem.

Mike Shultz
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Re: portmanager modifying bsd.port.mk

2009-03-09 Thread Robert Noland
On Mon, 2009-03-09 at 14:38 +, RW wrote:
 I think this was probably intended for the list rather than me:
 
 On Mar 8, 4:04 pm, RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote:
  On Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:40:08 -0400
 
  Chuck Robey chu...@telenix.org wrote:  
   Here's the portmanager listing, maybe someone here can tell me
   what's causing portmanager to want to patch my bsd.port.mk, and why
   the patchfile should be so far off, and what might be the CORRECT
   way to fix this.  Oh, BTW, I run current, and keep myself that way
   via cvsup..  
 
  IIRC the patch was made so that when portmanager built a port, the
  makefile would call back into  portmanager to let it modify the
  dependencies. Portmanager had a major rewrite just before the
   original author had a row with some FreeBSD people and abandoned the
  project. AFAIK the feature wasn't yet used, so it doesn't matter if
  the patch doesn't apply since it's a null operation.
 
 
 I'm the original author of portmanager,  haven't done anything bsd
 related in a few years so memory is a bit vague.
 I think the patch was to correct a sorting problem with dependencies
 in freebsd make. I filed a pr against make
 and was assured there was no way it would ever approved so that patch
 is a work around.  If it is failing, isn't really
  a big surprise, means something has changed in make finally.  Best
 solution I guess is to determine if make
 was fixed somewhere along the line, maybey look up the pr i filed
 agains make? if its fixed now, then remove the patch,
 if not, then someone who understands scripts needs to recut the
 patch.   I drive a semi for a living now and seriously
 doubt I'll ever take up programming again for lack of time, so very
 sorry I'm not able to provide more help with this problem.

Mike,

Thanks for the info.  Yes, bsd.port.mk changed about a year or so ago
now... portmanager still did what I needed it to do, so I just ignored
it.  I will try and find the old, PR and have a look.

thanks,

robert.

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Re: portmanager modifying bsd.port.mk

2009-03-09 Thread Chuck Robey
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RW wrote:
 On Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:40:08 -0400
 Chuck Robey chu...@telenix.org wrote:
 
 Here's the portmanager listing, maybe someone here can tell me what's
 causing portmanager to want to patch my bsd.port.mk, and why the
 patchfile should be so far off, and what might be the CORRECT way to
 fix this.  Oh, BTW, I run current, and keep myself that way via cvsup.
 
 IIRC the patch was made so that when portmanager built a port, the
 makefile would call back into  portmanager to let it modify the
 dependencies. Portmanager had a major rewrite just before the  original
 author had a row with some FreeBSD people and abandoned the project.
 AFAIK the feature wasn't yet used, so it doesn't matter if the patch
 doesn't apply since it's a null operation.

Ahh, I didn't realize that portmanager was moribund.  OK, I can figure out what
to do from here, then, thanks.  I might not like the method being used by
portmanager very much, but it's not worth complaining about a dead port.  Too
many other choices, aren't there?

 
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Re: portmanager modifying bsd.port.mk

2009-03-09 Thread Robert Noland
On Mon, 2009-03-09 at 21:00 -0400, Chuck Robey wrote:
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 RW wrote:
  On Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:40:08 -0400
  Chuck Robey chu...@telenix.org wrote:
  
  Here's the portmanager listing, maybe someone here can tell me what's
  causing portmanager to want to patch my bsd.port.mk, and why the
  patchfile should be so far off, and what might be the CORRECT way to
  fix this.  Oh, BTW, I run current, and keep myself that way via cvsup.
  
  IIRC the patch was made so that when portmanager built a port, the
  makefile would call back into  portmanager to let it modify the
  dependencies. Portmanager had a major rewrite just before the  original
  author had a row with some FreeBSD people and abandoned the project.
  AFAIK the feature wasn't yet used, so it doesn't matter if the patch
  doesn't apply since it's a null operation.
 
 Ahh, I didn't realize that portmanager was moribund.  OK, I can figure out 
 what
 to do from here, then, thanks.  I might not like the method being used by
 portmanager very much, but it's not worth complaining about a dead port.  Too
 many other choices, aren't there?

It's not exactly dead... I keep it running, because it is still the best
available option.

robert.

  
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Re: portmanager modifying bsd.port.mk

2009-03-09 Thread Chuck Robey
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Robert Noland wrote:
 On Mon, 2009-03-09 at 21:00 -0400, Chuck Robey wrote:
 RW wrote:
 On Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:40:08 -0400
 Chuck Robey chu...@telenix.org wrote:

 Here's the portmanager listing, maybe someone here can tell me what's
 causing portmanager to want to patch my bsd.port.mk, and why the
 patchfile should be so far off, and what might be the CORRECT way to
 fix this.  Oh, BTW, I run current, and keep myself that way via cvsup.
 IIRC the patch was made so that when portmanager built a port, the
 makefile would call back into  portmanager to let it modify the
 dependencies. Portmanager had a major rewrite just before the  original
 author had a row with some FreeBSD people and abandoned the project.
 AFAIK the feature wasn't yet used, so it doesn't matter if the patch
 doesn't apply since it's a null operation.
 Ahh, I didn't realize that portmanager was moribund.  OK, I can figure out 
 what
 to do from here, then, thanks.  I might not like the method being used by
 portmanager very much, but it's not worth complaining about a dead port.  Too
 many other choices, aren't there?
 
 It's not exactly dead... I keep it running, because it is still the best
 available option.

Just before sending my mail, I took a look at the cvs log, last entry is from
more than 6 months ago, unless something is somehow fubared with my archive.  If
it sits unchanged for so long, I interpreted that as being dead, I wasn't trying
to be insulting, maybe I made an incorrect assumption.

The patch I saw in the bsd.port.mk was there in order to add in a couple of
Makefile variables, and that just seems a really odd method to use for that
purpose.  I don't honestly know how portmanager works, so I couldn't give any
meaningful criticism, it just seemed so odd that I couldn't figure out the goal
behind it.

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Re: portmanager modifying bsd.port.mk

2009-03-09 Thread Robert Noland
On Mon, 2009-03-09 at 22:24 -0400, Chuck Robey wrote:
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 Robert Noland wrote:
  On Mon, 2009-03-09 at 21:00 -0400, Chuck Robey wrote:
  RW wrote:
  On Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:40:08 -0400
  Chuck Robey chu...@telenix.org wrote:
 
  Here's the portmanager listing, maybe someone here can tell me what's
  causing portmanager to want to patch my bsd.port.mk, and why the
  patchfile should be so far off, and what might be the CORRECT way to
  fix this.  Oh, BTW, I run current, and keep myself that way via cvsup.
  IIRC the patch was made so that when portmanager built a port, the
  makefile would call back into  portmanager to let it modify the
  dependencies. Portmanager had a major rewrite just before the  original
  author had a row with some FreeBSD people and abandoned the project.
  AFAIK the feature wasn't yet used, so it doesn't matter if the patch
  doesn't apply since it's a null operation.
  Ahh, I didn't realize that portmanager was moribund.  OK, I can figure out 
  what
  to do from here, then, thanks.  I might not like the method being used by
  portmanager very much, but it's not worth complaining about a dead port.  
  Too
  many other choices, aren't there?
  
  It's not exactly dead... I keep it running, because it is still the best
  available option.
 
 Just before sending my mail, I took a look at the cvs log, last entry is from
 more than 6 months ago, unless something is somehow fubared with my archive.  
 If
 it sits unchanged for so long, I interpreted that as being dead, I wasn't 
 trying
 to be insulting, maybe I made an incorrect assumption.

It wouldn't hurt it to have some love, but my other work keeps me busy.
I've had ideas of things I would like to fix or extend, but not gotten
around to it.  So, no offense taken, it mostly just works for my
purposes.

robert.

 The patch I saw in the bsd.port.mk was there in order to add in a couple of
 Makefile variables, and that just seems a really odd method to use for that
 purpose.  I don't honestly know how portmanager works, so I couldn't give any
 meaningful criticism, it just seemed so odd that I couldn't figure out the 
 goal
 behind it.
 
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Re: portmanager modifying bsd.port.mk

2009-03-09 Thread Doug Barton
Chuck Robey wrote:
 Just before sending my mail, I took a look at the cvs log, last entry is from
 more than 6 months ago, unless something is somehow fubared with my archive.  
 If
 it sits unchanged for so long, I interpreted that as being dead, I wasn't 
 trying
 to be insulting, maybe I made an incorrect assumption.

The last change to portmaster (minor bug fixes and one minor new
feature) was just shy of 6 months after the previous change, but I
assure you that it's very much alive. :)  Just because an existing
feature set is more or less mature doesn't mean that the project is dead.

Doug

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portmanager modifying bsd.port.mk

2009-03-08 Thread Chuck Robey
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I'm busy trying to use portmanager to get me to kde4.2, but I'm having problem
in updating my misc/localedata port.  Portmanager has decided misc/localedata
needs to get rebuilt, and for some reason, that it needs to patch my
/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port/mk file with the patchfile
/usr/local/share/portmanager/patch-bsd.port.mk-0.3.6.  I can't figure out why
portmanager thinks that misc/localedata needs updating, but I much much worse,
can't figure out why it needs to patch my /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port/mk file.  I
checked the patchfile I listed above, the patch seems fine BUT it's off in terms
of line number, it wants to patch around the line 2049, but in searching my
bsd.port.mk, it should really be looking to patch about line 2347.  I could go
about fixing this, but seeing as I don't know why it's patching things to begin
with, I feel really unsafe in changing the patchfile.

I did make sure that the patchfile was totally up-to-date, and that my
bsd.port.mk is also up-to-date.

Here's the portmanager listing, maybe someone here can tell me what's causing
portmanager to want to patch my bsd.port.mk, and why the patchfile should be so
far off, and what might be the CORRECT way to fix this.  Oh, BTW, I run current,
and keep myself that way via cvsup.

If you tell me I should just fix the patchfile, I know how to do that, I just
feel uneasy when I have no idea of the context involved.  I think this exact
same probolme is actually (probably) occurring in several other points in my
kde4.2 build, so I really need to understand the reason it's trying to patch to
begin with, and why things are out of sync.

+++ FROM the portmanager listing +++
TCSH-april:root:/usr/ports/lang:#44-19:26portmanager misc/localedata -f -l
MGPMrController 0.4.1_9 info: running in forced update mode
rCreateInstalledDbVerifyContentsFile 0.4.1_9 error: @name not found in
/var/db/pkg/convertall-0.4.0/+CONTENTS
convertall-0.4.0 installation is corrupt!
recomend running pkg_delete -f convertall-0.4.0 then manually
reinstalling this port
rCreateInstalledDbVerifyContentsFile 0.4.1_9 error: @name not found in
/var/db/pkg/convertall-0.4.0/+CONTENTS
convertall-0.4.0 installation is corrupt!
recomend running pkg_delete -f convertall-0.4.0 then manually
reinstalling this port
- 
portmanager 0.4.1_9: Collecting installed port data forced mode
- 
- -0001 localedata-5.4 /misc/localedata
rCreateInstalledDbVerifyContentsFile 0.4.1_9 error: @name not found in
/var/db/pkg/convertall-0.4.0/+CONTENTS
convertall-0.4.0 installation is corrupt!
recomend running pkg_delete -f convertall-0.4.0 then manually
reinstalling this port
- 
 Port Status Report forced mode
- 
1 :localedata-5.4  /misc/localedata
   MISSING

updating localedata-5.4 /misc/localedata  options  reason: MISSING
localedata-5.4 /misc/localedata
- 
percentDone-=0 = 100 - ( 100 * ( oldPortsDbQTY-=1 / oldPortsDbTOTALIZER-=1 ) 
)
patching bsd.port.mk-=cd /usr/ports/Mk; patch 
/usr/local/share/portmanager/patch-bsd.port.mk-0.3.6;
Hmm...  Looks like a unified diff to me...
The text leading up to this was:
- --
|--- /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk  Tue Nov  8 01:02:51 2005
|+++ bsd.port.mkWed Nov 16 02:16:57 2005
- --
Patching file bsd.port.mk using Plan A...
Hunk #1 failed at 2049.
1 out of 1 hunks failed--saving rejects to bsd.port.mk.rej
done
- 
MGPMrUpdate 0.4.1_9 command: #1 of 14  cd /usr/ports/misc/localedata  make -V
OPTIONS
- 
- 
checking for conflicts before building localedata-5.4
MGPMrUpdate 0.4.1_9 command: #3 of 14  cd /usr/ports/misc/localedata  make
check-conflicts
- 
- 
intitial clean of work directories
MGPMrUpdate 0.4.1_9 command: #7 of 14:
- 


After this point, the stuff above repeats 2 more times, until it announces that
it's failed 3 times, and quitting.  No additional info, no idea why it's doing
that patching to begin with.
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Re: portmanager modifying bsd.port.mk

2009-03-08 Thread Robert Noland
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 I'm busy trying to use portmanager to get me to kde4.2, but I'm having problem
 in updating my misc/localedata port.  Portmanager has decided misc/localedata
 needs to get rebuilt, and for some reason, that it needs to patch my
 /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port/mk file with the patchfile
 /usr/local/share/portmanager/patch-bsd.port.mk-0.3.6.  I can't figure out why
 portmanager thinks that misc/localedata needs updating, but I much much worse,
 can't figure out why it needs to patch my /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port/mk file.  I
 checked the patchfile I listed above, the patch seems fine BUT it's off in 
 terms
 of line number, it wants to patch around the line 2049, but in searching my
 bsd.port.mk, it should really be looking to patch about line 2347.  I could go
 about fixing this, but seeing as I don't know why it's patching things to 
 begin
 with, I feel really unsafe in changing the patchfile.

This has failed for a really long time... I should fix it someday, but
it really doesn't cause any harm that I've seen.  I normally always use
portmanager -u -p -l -y and it continues to dtrt.

 I did make sure that the patchfile was totally up-to-date, and that my
 bsd.port.mk is also up-to-date.
 
 Here's the portmanager listing, maybe someone here can tell me what's causing
 portmanager to want to patch my bsd.port.mk, and why the patchfile should be 
 so
 far off, and what might be the CORRECT way to fix this.  Oh, BTW, I run 
 current,
 and keep myself that way via cvsup.
 
 If you tell me I should just fix the patchfile, I know how to do that, I just
 feel uneasy when I have no idea of the context involved.  I think this exact
 same probolme is actually (probably) occurring in several other points in my
 kde4.2 build, so I really need to understand the reason it's trying to patch 
 to
 begin with, and why things are out of sync.
 
 +++ FROM the portmanager listing +++
 TCSH-april:root:/usr/ports/lang:#44-19:26portmanager misc/localedata -f -l
 MGPMrController 0.4.1_9 info: running in forced update mode
 rCreateInstalledDbVerifyContentsFile 0.4.1_9 error: @name not found in
 /var/db/pkg/convertall-0.4.0/+CONTENTS
 convertall-0.4.0 installation is corrupt!
 recomend running pkg_delete -f convertall-0.4.0 then 
 manually
 reinstalling this port
 rCreateInstalledDbVerifyContentsFile 0.4.1_9 error: @name not found in
 /var/db/pkg/convertall-0.4.0/+CONTENTS
 convertall-0.4.0 installation is corrupt!
 recomend running pkg_delete -f convertall-0.4.0 then 
 manually
 reinstalling this port

This error seems pretty clear, what did I miss?

robert.

 - 
 portmanager 0.4.1_9: Collecting installed port data forced mode
 - 
 - -0001 localedata-5.4 /misc/localedata
 rCreateInstalledDbVerifyContentsFile 0.4.1_9 error: @name not found in
 /var/db/pkg/convertall-0.4.0/+CONTENTS
 convertall-0.4.0 installation is corrupt!
 recomend running pkg_delete -f convertall-0.4.0 then 
 manually
 reinstalling this port
 - 
  Port Status Report forced mode
 - 
 1 :localedata-5.4  /misc/localedata
MISSING
 
 updating localedata-5.4 /misc/localedata  options  reason: MISSING
 localedata-5.4 /misc/localedata
 - 
 percentDone-=0 = 100 - ( 100 * ( oldPortsDbQTY-=1 / oldPortsDbTOTALIZER-=1 
 ) )
 patching bsd.port.mk-=cd /usr/ports/Mk; patch 
 /usr/local/share/portmanager/patch-bsd.port.mk-0.3.6;
 Hmm...  Looks like a unified diff to me...
 The text leading up to this was:
 - --
 |--- /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk  Tue Nov  8 01:02:51 2005
 |+++ bsd.port.mkWed Nov 16 02:16:57 2005
 - --
 Patching file bsd.port.mk using Plan A...
 Hunk #1 failed at 2049.
 1 out of 1 hunks failed--saving rejects to bsd.port.mk.rej
 done
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 MGPMrUpdate 0.4.1_9 command: #1 of 14  cd /usr/ports/misc/localedata  make 
 -V
 OPTIONS
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 checking for conflicts before building localedata-5.4
 MGPMrUpdate 0.4.1_9 command: #3 of 14  cd /usr/ports/misc/localedata  make
 check-conflicts
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Re: portmanager modifying bsd.port.mk

2009-03-08 Thread RW
On Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:40:08 -0400
Chuck Robey chu...@telenix.org wrote:

 Here's the portmanager listing, maybe someone here can tell me what's
 causing portmanager to want to patch my bsd.port.mk, and why the
 patchfile should be so far off, and what might be the CORRECT way to
 fix this.  Oh, BTW, I run current, and keep myself that way via cvsup.

IIRC the patch was made so that when portmanager built a port, the
makefile would call back into  portmanager to let it modify the
dependencies. Portmanager had a major rewrite just before the  original
author had a row with some FreeBSD people and abandoned the project.
AFAIK the feature wasn't yet used, so it doesn't matter if the patch
doesn't apply since it's a null operation.

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