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Re: Question on order and targets of kernel and world builds

[Garance A Drosihn]

At 11:04 PM -0400 7/16/02, John Mills wrote:
>Hello -
>
>I would appreciate a bit more information on the 'world' and 'kernel'
>building process. Please point me at the right section of the Handbook
>or Greg's book if there is a succinct description.
>
>I have been doing 'CVSUP' followed by:
>
># make buildworld
># make installworld
># make buildkernel
># make installkernel
>
>without really knowing if this was a useful order or exactly what
>I was accomplishing with each target.

You should check:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html

for more details that you probably even need to know (because it
includes information for older releases of freebsd).

If you are fairly up-to-date with freebsd-stable, the preferred order
would be more like:

*READ*   /usr/src/UPDATING
 [every time, just to make sure there are no special
  issues with this specific snapshot of freebsd]
mergemaster -p
make buildworld
make buildkernel
make installkernel
 [reboot, to make sure the kernel at least boots up]
get into single user mode
 [usually by booting into it in the above step,
  although I often cheat on that...]
make installworld
mergemaster
 [go thru all the questions from mergemaster]
reboot into your new world.

You do not want to install the new world before you know whether
the kernel that matches it will work on your hardware.  If the
kernel does *not* work (and I have had cases where this happens,
although not very often on freebsd-stable), then you can easily
back out by just renaming the kernel-related files in '/'.

If you have done the installworld and *then* find out the new
kernel does not work, well, you'll be in a world of hurt.

Many people will try things in a different order, and will happen
to have it work, and will thus insist that their order is the
correct order (and usually "that it saves them a lot of time").
Their order may even work for six to eight months at a stretch,
which they consider "proof" that it is a perfectly correct order.

The documented order is the order you should stick with, because
it's the only order that we actively *try* to keep working.  If
some other order happens to work, feel free to use it, but do not
come complaining to us for the update where that alternate order
does NOT happen to work...

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Problems corss mounting /usr/src and /usr/obj

[David Dooley]

Hi,

I have given my self a new problem. I have a selection of machines that
all nfs mount /usr/build filesystem from a development server, each
machine then has softlinks from /usr/src -> /usr/build/src and the
equivelent for /usr/obj and /usr/ports. 

As all machines used to mount the /usr/build filesystem and all had the
relevant softlinks all my installkernel and installworlds worked. I have
now implemented 'amd' on all the client machines for the /usr/build
mount. This has caused the real mount point for /usr/build to change to
be /.a/dev/usr/build and any 'make installworld' fails with the
following error

# make installkernel
cd /usr/obj/.a/dev/usr/src/sys/GATE;  MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj  MACHINE_ARCH=i386  
MACHINE=i386  OBJFORMAT_PATH=/usr/obj/.a/dev/usr/src/i386/usr/libexec  
PERL5LIB=/usr/obj/.a/dev/usr/src/i386/usr/libdata/perl/5.00503  
GROFF_BIN_PATH=/usr/obj/.a/dev/usr/src/i386/usr/bin  
GROFF_FONT_PATH=/usr/obj/.a/dev/usr/src/i386/usr/share/groff_font  
GROFF_TMAC_PATH=/usr/obj/.a/dev/usr/src/i386/usr/share/tmac make KERNEL=kernel install
cd: can't cd to /usr/obj/.a/dev/usr/src/sys/GATE
*** Error code 2

Stop in /.a/dev/usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /.a/dev/usr/src.

Has any one any ideas as to how I can go about masking the change of
location and get the build system to use the soflinked paths and not the
absoloute paths?

Thanks

David.


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Remote call by ssh

[fred]

Hi all, 
 
    Could I do the things in 
freebsd?
 
   We have two office,  their 
are in the diffierent location. The two lans are connected by gateway to gateway 
VPN.
    On one gateway named 
"SG" the IP address is static, while on the other named  "DG" the 
 IP address is gained dynamiclly.
 
    If the IP 
address of SG is changed, I had to log on to the DG to modify and 
execute a script file to set up the VPN.
 
    My questions is when DG get the 
IP address, can it modify and executed a scripts on the SD?
    The SG can logon  the DG 
can logon the SG by ssh.
 
 
Thanks,
Fred Zhang
    

Re: WebMail Options

[Simon Dick]

I use it too, but the problem is that it requires an IMAP server as a
backend, I read his request as needing to use a POP3 server :|

On Tue, Jul 16, 2002 at 12:26:17PM -0400, Moti Levy wrote:
> i use SquirrelMail its in the ports
> 
> 
> > -Multiple domains - yes
> > -POP3 - if you mean retriving email from pop3 clients than yes
> > -Runs on FreeBSD, Apache, & CGI or PHP preferably - apache + php
> > -SSL Option + broswer built
> > -"User" friendly - extreamly freindly with lots of features ( spell check
> and others )
> > -Not too too expensive - free ...
> 
> enjoy
> Moti
> 
> >
> > We have looked at OpenWebmail and cannot seem to allow it to work
> > with multiple domains (hosting environment). Anyone with documentation
> > on how to, would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > We have looked at Uebimiau for the longest time try to solve a bug.
> > We have tried to contact the author several times without success.
> > Below is my original post, hopefully someone who is using it can offer
> > some further insight.
> >
> > Found here: http://www.uebimiau.sili.com.br/
> >
> > On a FreeBSD 4.6R server, when I send a message through the web
> > interface, the recipient will see the following in the header fields
> within their
> > (any) mail client software (note the comments after each line):
> >
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // which is right
> > To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" @server.mydomain.com // which is NOT right
> > CC: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" @server.mydomain.com // which is again
> not right
> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // which is right
> >
> > Any idea how can I stop the server from appending it's (or another) mail
> server name
> > after the 'To:' field. I have tried tweaking the code with no positive
> results.
> >
> > We have also tried relaying the mail through the server Webmail is setup
> on,
> > right through sendmail, and two other FreeBSD servers running Sendmail.
> >
> > We have tried contacting the author several times, as well as the FAQ,
> site, etc.
> >
> > Appreciate any assistance. Thank you,
> >
> >
> > ..D
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
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> 
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Re: [freebsd-questions] SSH

[Rafter Man]

- Original Message -
From: Lowell Gilbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Well, I don't want to force users to use bash if they are used to or lve tcsh 
>(or some other shell). But if we are lucky, then maybe sftp and ssh will have a way 
>to chroot users in the future. But thanks for you reply :-)
> 
> You can certainly ssh into a jail(8). 
> And ssh(1) can use login(1), so chroot(8) 
> will work if you want also.

Ok, I will look into that, thanks :-)

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How to enable digital output ??

[Ivajlo Nikolov]

HI,
I have Creative sound blaster live 5.1 with digital output. Is there anybody 
who knows how i can enable it's digital output ???


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Re: Coding style and API's

[Byron Schlemmer]

On Wed, 17 Jul 2002, Kenneth Culver wrote:

> get on a freebsd machine and type "main style"
>
> for the api's, I have like 5 books on them, but I can't remember their
> names but they're all by Stevens and can be found pretty easily.
>
> Ken
>
> On Wed, 17 Jul 2002, Rafter Man wrote:
>
> > Hi FreeBSD'ers
> >
> > I want to write programs for freebsd, so can you guide me to some info
> about freebsd api's and coding style?

"man 9 style" even. :)

Have you also tried :

http:///doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/index.html

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Hello

[Rathnakara U M]

Hello,

This is Rathnakara from WIPRO Technologies, Bangalore, India.

I would like to download the source code for FreeBSD release 4.3, But I
could not follow the link where exactly I can find the source code. I would
appreciate If u could help in this regard.

Thx
Rat



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Mylex DAC 960 PRL RAID card support

[Yalcin Cekic]

Hi folks,

I wonder that FreeBSD 4.6 has Mylex DAC 960 PRL RAID card support ?
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.6R/hardware-i386.html page contains
some DAC 960 but not DAC 960PRL.

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Re: Coding style and API's

[Rafter Man]

- Original Message - 
From: "Byron Schlemmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Hi FreeBSD'ers
> > >
> > > I want to write programs for freebsd, so can you guide me to some info
> > about freebsd api's and coding style?
> 
> "man 9 style" even. :)
> 
> Have you also tried :
> 
> 
>http:///doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/index.html

Jep and thanks :-)

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q-mail and DNS

[Grant Cooper]

"Sorry, I couldn't find your host's canonical name in DNS." when I execute
the ./config command. I'm getting this error. Well I own my Domain,
kooper.ca. And it exist's. But I am not using Bind yet. Don't know how so I
am using zoneedit.com to point to me. Is this what they are asking for? I
can get my services up, when I use zoneedit's name servers. I think I will
do a clean start tomorrow - with a fresh mind. To much reading and linux
conversion!!!


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freebsd-questions@freebsd.org

[Mauritz Sundell]

- Original Message - 
From: "Abc Xyz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "freebsd-questions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 10:05 AM
Subject: /dev/null and 2>&-


> i just installed 4.6-RELEASE, and notice that
> the '2>&-' sh (FBSD) construct seems to be broken.
> i am going thru all my scripts having to change
> it to /dev/null ...
In what way is it broken?

If the construct is generally used for hiding errormessages, one
should probably replace it with '2>/dev/null' anyway, since 2>&-
only closes filedescriptor 2 at startup of program and the first file
the program opens will be assigned the very same and all output
to stderr will come up in that file.

Example,
sh> tee < /dev/null 2>&- empty /nonexistent/missingfile
sh> cat empty
tee: /nonexistent/missingfile: No such file or directory
sh>

sh> tee < /dev/null 2>/dev/null empty /nonexistent/missingfile
sh> cat empty
sh>

> 
> i figure it's not realistic to assume a bug this
> obvious would make it to release stage, so my
> question is - is something else going on?
> or is this just due to changes in 'sh'?
> is it a bug?  or is it a permenent change?
> 
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Re: Hello

[Matthew Seaman]

On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 03:25:18PM +0530, Rathnakara U M wrote:

> I would like to download the source code for FreeBSD release 4.3, But I
> could not follow the link where exactly I can find the source code. I would
> appreciate If u could help in this regard.

There isn't a specific web site where you can download the 4.3-RELEASE
source code.  The closest thing there is to that is the CGI interface
to the CVS repository at
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/#dirlist

That's not really feasible for downloading quantities of source code.
Instead, use cvsup to pull the appropriate sources out of one of the
many copies of the FreeBSd CVS repository.

Here's how to use cvsup: 

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html

which has a list of hand cvsup mirror sites.  Unfortunately there
seems to be no FreeBSD cvsup mirror in India but I'm sure you can find
one relatively near by in network terms.

To obtain the sources for 4.3-RELEASE, use a supfile like this:

*default host=cvsup.jp.FreeBSD.org
*default base=/usr
*default prefix=/usr
*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4_3_0_RELEASE
*default delete use-rel-suffix
*default compress
src-all

This is based on the 'stable-supfile' in /usr/share/examples/cvsup ---
you may find some interest in the other supfiles in there.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: WebMail Options

[Moti Levy]

my bad ,sorry

- Original Message -
From: "Simon Dick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Moti Levy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 3:16 AM
Subject: Re: WebMail Options


> I use it too, but the problem is that it requires an IMAP server as a
> backend, I read his request as needing to use a POP3 server :|
>
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2002 at 12:26:17PM -0400, Moti Levy wrote:
> > i use SquirrelMail its in the ports
> >
> >
> > > -Multiple domains - yes
> > > -POP3 - if you mean retriving email from pop3 clients than yes
> > > -Runs on FreeBSD, Apache, & CGI or PHP preferably - apache + php
> > > -SSL Option + broswer built
> > > -"User" friendly - extreamly freindly with lots of features ( spell
check
> > and others )
> > > -Not too too expensive - free ...
> >
> > enjoy
> > Moti
> >
> > >
> > > We have looked at OpenWebmail and cannot seem to allow it to work
> > > with multiple domains (hosting environment). Anyone with documentation
> > > on how to, would be greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > > We have looked at Uebimiau for the longest time try to solve a bug.
> > > We have tried to contact the author several times without success.
> > > Below is my original post, hopefully someone who is using it can offer
> > > some further insight.
> > >
> > > Found here: http://www.uebimiau.sili.com.br/
> > >
> > > On a FreeBSD 4.6R server, when I send a message through the web
> > > interface, the recipient will see the following in the header fields
> > within their
> > > (any) mail client software (note the comments after each line):
> > >
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // which is right
> > > To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" @server.mydomain.com // which is NOT
right
> > > CC: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" @server.mydomain.com // which is
again
> > not right
> > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // which is right
> > >
> > > Any idea how can I stop the server from appending it's (or another)
mail
> > server name
> > > after the 'To:' field. I have tried tweaking the code with no positive
> > results.
> > >
> > > We have also tried relaying the mail through the server Webmail is
setup
> > on,
> > > right through sendmail, and two other FreeBSD servers running
Sendmail.
> > >
> > > We have tried contacting the author several times, as well as the FAQ,
> > site, etc.
> > >
> > > Appreciate any assistance. Thank you,
> > >
> > >
> > > ..D
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Problems with ports

[Boris]

Hello!

I`m using my FreeBSD 4.4 at home and as a result I have to use dial up for
Internet. And while using ports I`m disconnecting and program didn`t
download, I must to start again. It`s very uncomfortable for me, as a
result I must use wget or other. Why not to add a future a resuming
download for ports? Please answer. Thank You

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merge and sort multiple log files

[Dave [Hawk-Systems]]

is there a port similar to mergelog (http://mergelog.sourceforge.net/) fro
freebsd...

need something incredibly simple to grab several (http, ftp, other in common
format) log files and merge them into one prior to processing them with
webalizer or similar.

tried installing the logtools port, but got a lovely error during the make;

===>  Building for logtools-0.13a
make: don't know how to make clfmerge. Stop
*** Error code 2

Stop in /usr/local/src/logtools-0.13a/logtools.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/local/src/logtools-0.13a/logtools.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/local/src/logtools-0.13a/logtools.

thanks

Dave


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RE: Question on order and targets of kernel and world builds

[John Mills]

Pavan -

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Balaji, Pavan wrote:

 
> "make buildworld" -- builds the kernel and the libraries (both kernel and
> user level)
 
> "make buildkernel" -- builds only the kernel

Thanks - I didn't realize 'buildkernel' was redundant to 'buildworld'.
 
> You can build kernels with different configuration files using "make
> buildkernel KERNCONF=". Once you do the 'build', the kernel image
> is stored as /kernel

Actually I do that. Does it work for a kernel built as part
of 'buildworld'?

> More information in the FreeBSD Handbook. http://www.freebsd.org

I'll go back and look. I found general instructions which worked, but
missed the details.

 - John Mills


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Re: VMware 3.1 and FreeBSD

[Bob Bomar]

> 
> There is no port for vmware3 on freebsd.  If you are asking
> questions like "what is insmod?", it is not likely that you
> will have an easy time getting this linux program (with it's
> fingers into linux system internals) running on your freebsd
> system.
> 

I wasnt expecting an easy fix.  I was looking more at learning
how to help will getting VMware 3.1 ported over to FreeBSD.

> I would like to see vmware3 on freebsd, but I do not know
> enough to figure out the programming/porting issues involved.
> 

If any body is working on a port for FreeBSD, then I would like
to help.

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[Abc Xyz]

> > i just installed 4.6-RELEASE, and notice that
> > the '2>&-' sh (FBSD) construct seems to be broken.
> > i am going thru all my scripts having to change
> > it to /dev/null ...

> In what way is it broken?
 
> If the construct is generally used for hiding errormessages, one
> should probably replace it with '2>/dev/null' anyway, since 2>&-
> only closes filedescriptor 2 at startup of program and the first file
> the program opens will be assigned the very same and all output
> to stderr will come up in that file.
 
> Example,
> sh> tee < /dev/null 2>&- empty /nonexistent/missingfile
> sh> cat empty
> tee: /nonexistent/missingfile: No such file or directory
> sh>

this example above is incorrect with regards to 4.6-RELEASE.
with 4.6-RELEASE, output is as follows:

Example,
sh> tee < /dev/null 2>&- empty /nonexistent/missingfile
tee: /nonexistent/missingfile: No such file or directory
sh> cat empty
sh>

> sh> tee < /dev/null 2>/dev/null empty /nonexistent/missingfile
> sh> cat empty
> sh>
 
> > i figure it's not realistic to assume a bug this
> > obvious would make it to release stage, so my
> > question is - is something else going on?
> > or is this just due to changes in 'sh'?
> > is it a bug?  or is it a permenent change?

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Re: Question on order and targets of kernel and world builds

[John Mills]

Garance -

Thanks for the information and for replying.

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Garance A Drosihn wrote:

> You should check:
 
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html

Will do.

> If you are fairly up-to-date with freebsd-stable, the preferred order
> would be more like:

I presume this follows my 'cvsup', and expect this is true for
freebsd-release as well?

> *READ*   /usr/src/UPDATING
>  [every time, just to make sure there are no special
>   issues with this specific snapshot of freebsd]
> mergemaster -p
  ^^-- This is new to me - thanks.
> make buildworld
> make buildkernel
> make installkernel
>  [reboot, to make sure the kernel at least boots up]
> get into single user mode
>  [usually by booting into it in the above step,
>   although I often cheat on that...]
> make installworld
> mergemaster
>  [go thru all the questions from mergemaster]
> reboot into your new world.

That's exactly what I wanted to know.
 
> You do not want to install the new world before you know whether
> the kernel that matches it will work on your hardware.  If the
> kernel does *not* work (and I have had cases where this happens,
> although not very often on freebsd-stable), then you can easily
> back out by just renaming the kernel-related files in '/'.
> 
> If you have done the installworld and *then* find out the new
> kernel does not work, well, you'll be in a world of hurt.
  and that's a _bad_thing(TM)_ in my book.
 ...

> The documented order is the order you should stick with, because
> it's the only order that we actively *try* to keep working.  If
> some other order happens to work, feel free to use it, but do not
> come complaining to us for the update where that alternate order
> does NOT happen to work...

Exactly what I wanted to know. Thanks again.

 - John Mills


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Re: Question on order and targets of kernel and world builds

[John Mills]

Thanks Jim, Garance, and Pavan -

I think I have the information and references now. I also think I had
didn't have trouble before because I was basically moving only by very
small steps in my rebuilds: bugfixes rather than any changes of APIs.

_Much_ better to do this a bit more knowledgably.

 - John Mills



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Re: When is FreeBSD going to work properly with KVM switches?

[Kirk Strauser]

At 2002-07-16T08:00:54Z, RichardH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> It will all work properly if you quit using belkin KVM's, they are too
> expensive.

...or try using the more expensive Belkin KVMs.  I have a Belkin F1DS104T
USB KVM.  It remaps USB and PS/2 keyboards to either USB or PS/2 outputs
(selectable per-machine).  It also emulates an a "live" keyboard and mouse
at all times for all machines hooked to it, so you can boot one host while
you're actively working on another.

I've had it for about 6 months, and to this day, I've never had a single
lost signal on any of my USB or PS/2, Linux or FreeBSD hosts.  I love it.
-- 
Kirk Strauser
The Strauser Group - http://www.strausergroup.com/

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Re: GDM

[Steve Wingate]

On Tue, 2002-07-16 at 23:21, Jonathan Chen wrote:
> [Please do not remove Cc: freebsd-questions]
> 
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 11:55:31AM +0530, Akthar Hussain wrote:
> > Hi Jonathan,
> > 
> > Thanks for your reply.
> > 
> > But why a normal user can able to start GDM withou loging as root.
> > 
> > since a normal user able to start GDM, i thought KDM also possible.
> 
> Are you sure about this? In order to validate passwords, the program
> needs to be able to acess master.passwd, readable only by root. Even
> the stock-standard xdm needs to be started up as root.
> -- 

Why would a normal user even NEED to start xdm/gdm/xdm in the first
place?



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Re: Question on order and targets of kernel and world builds

[parv]

in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
wrote John Mills thusly...
>
> Pavan -
> 
> On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Balaji, Pavan wrote:
> 
> > "make buildworld" -- builds the kernel and the libraries (both kernel and
> > user level)
>  
> > "make buildkernel" -- builds only the kernel
> 
> Thanks - I didn't realize 'buildkernel' was redundant to 'buildworld'.

since when buildworld target starts building actual kernels?  or, is
there a communication problem either on my part or pavan's?


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Re: When is FreeBSD going to work properly with KVM switches?

[Chad Albert]

Yes, I also am a victim of the cheap KVM blues ;-)  I have had this symptom
on FreeBSD, NetBSD, Win2k, and NT4 with a PowerReach 6 port KVM Controller.
On the bright side the KVM is a very pretty shade of purple 8-)


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From: "Kirk Strauser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: When is FreeBSD going to work properly with KVM switches?


>
> At 2002-07-16T08:00:54Z, RichardH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > It will all work properly if you quit using belkin KVM's, they are too
> > expensive.
>
> ...or try using the more expensive Belkin KVMs.  I have a Belkin F1DS104T
> USB KVM.  It remaps USB and PS/2 keyboards to either USB or PS/2 outputs
> (selectable per-machine).  It also emulates an a "live" keyboard and mouse
> at all times for all machines hooked to it, so you can boot one host while
> you're actively working on another.
>
> I've had it for about 6 months, and to this day, I've never had a single
> lost signal on any of my USB or PS/2, Linux or FreeBSD hosts.  I love it.
> --
> Kirk Strauser
> The Strauser Group - http://www.strausergroup.com/
>
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Re: Adding disks via an expansion card

[David]

- Original Message -
From: "David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> I've looked through what I can of the Handbook and FAQ but can't seem to
> find an answer.
>
> I have added a Maxtor UltraATA/100 PCI Adaptor Card to one of my machines
> (to replace failing on-board IDE controllers).  On boot, I see that it is
> detected and it detects the hard drive attached to it.  However, I have
two
> problems.
>
> 1) The CD-ROM attached to the card is not detected.
> 2) The devices don't exist in /dev to do anything with it.
>
> I have tried to use 'MAKEDEV all' to get the devices to appear there, but
it
> doesn't seem to do it.  Do I have to add the devices manually?
>
> exerpt from dmesg:
>
> atapci1:  port
> 0xec00-0xec3f,0xe800-0xe803,0xe400-0xe407,0xe000-0xe003,0xdc00-0xdc07 mem
> 0xee00-0xee01 irq 11 at device 10.0 on pci0
> ata2: at 0xdc00 on atapci1
> ata3: at 0xe400 on atapci1
> 
> ad2: 2014MB  [4092/16/63] at ata1-master UDMA33
> ad3: 12416MB  [25228/16/63] at ata1-slave UDMA33
> ad4: 4121MB  [8374/16/63] at ata2-master UDMA33
>
>

Well, I found a way to do this, though I'm wondering if there's an easier
way.  I ended up removing an option in the kernel conf for static IDE
numbering.  I recompiled that and rebooted.  On the way up I disabled the
first IDE controller on the board.  When the rest of the machine came up the
secondary master and secondary became ad0 and ad1, respectively, while the
new controller's master and secondary became ad2 and ad3.

While this works, it also means that I can't use the secondary controller on
the add-on card I have.

I found these lines in the kernel conf:

device  ata0at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14
device  ata1at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15

Can I just add another line like this?   A friend also suggested I use the
wd driver, but it appears to be mutually exclusive with the ata driver.
Anyone know what the best way to do this would be or suggestions on what I
could do?

David


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Re: Question on order and targets of kernel and world builds

[Brian T . Schellenberger]

I'm pretty sure that that buildworld does *not* build kernels.

If anybody has definitive information (like, proof) to the contrary I'd be 
interested in knowing.

On Wednesday 17 July 2002 10:28 am, parv wrote:
| in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
| wrote John Mills thusly...
|
| > Pavan -
| >
| > On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Balaji, Pavan wrote:
| > > "make buildworld" -- builds the kernel and the libraries (both kernel
| > > and user level)
| > >
| > > "make buildkernel" -- builds only the kernel
| >
| > Thanks - I didn't realize 'buildkernel' was redundant to 'buildworld'.
|
| since when buildworld target starts building actual kernels?  or, is
| there a communication problem either on my part or pavan's?

-- 
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Re: Adding disks via an expansion card

[Rob O'Donnell]

At 08:16 17/07/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>- Original Message -
>From: "David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > I have added a Maxtor UltraATA/100 PCI Adaptor Card to one of my machines
> > (to replace failing on-board IDE controllers).  On boot, I see that it is
> > detected and it detects the hard drive attached to it.  However, I have
>two
> > problems.
> >
> > atapci1:  port
> > 0xec00-0xec3f,0xe800-0xe803,0xe400-0xe407,0xe000-0xe003,0xdc00-0xdc07 mem
> > 0xee00-0xee01 irq 11 at device 10.0 on pci0
> > ata2: at 0xdc00 on atapci1
> > ata3: at 0xe400 on atapci1
> > 
> > ad2: 2014MB  [4092/16/63] at ata1-master UDMA33
> > ad3: 12416MB  [25228/16/63] at ata1-slave UDMA33
> > ad4: 4121MB  [8374/16/63] at ata2-master UDMA33
> >
> >
>
>Well, I found a way to do this, though I'm wondering if there's an easier
>way.  I ended up removing an option in the kernel conf for static IDE
>numbering.  I recompiled that and rebooted.  On the way up I disabled the
>first IDE controller on the board.  When the rest of the machine came up the
>secondary master and secondary became ad0 and ad1, respectively, while the
>new controller's master and secondary became ad2 and ad3.
>
>While this works, it also means that I can't use the secondary controller on
>the add-on card I have.
>
>I found these lines in the kernel conf:
>
>device  ata0at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14
>device  ata1at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15
>
>Can I just add another line like this?   A friend also suggested I use the
>wd driver, but it appears to be mutually exclusive with the ata driver.
>Anyone know what the best way to do this would be or suggestions on what I
>could do?
>
>David

I added a second IDE controller to my 4.3 box with no problems..

it's still running GENERIC kernel, which detected it ok:

atapci0:  port 0xc000-0xc00f at device 7.1 on pci0
ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0
atapci1:  port 
0xdc00-0xdc0f,0xd800-0xd803,0xd400-0xd
407,0xd000-0xd003,0xcc00-0xcc07 irq 11 at device 8.0 on pci0
ata2: at 0xcc00 on atapci1
ata3: at 0xd400 on atapci1

saw the discs:

ad0: 1040MB  [2114/16/63] at ata0-master WDMA2
ad2: 117246MB  [238216/16/63] at ata1-master UDMA66
ad3: 19546MB  [39714/16/63] at ata1-slave UDMA66
ad4: 117246MB  [238216/16/63] at ata2-master UDMA100
ad5: 114473MB  [232581/16/63] at ata2-slave UDMA100
ad6: 117246MB  [238216/16/63] at ata3-master UDMA100
ad7: 39083MB  [79408/16/63] at ata3-slave UDMA100

(hmm,., why do western dig 120Gb have somewhat less space on them than maxtor?)

All I remember having to do was MAKEDEV the ad4/5/6/7 devices.  after that, 
it just worked.  Only problem was fitting all the discs in the cabinet - 
ide leads wern't long enough!





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Re: Question on order and targets of kernel and world builds

[Kevin Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.]

He's either quite wrong, or he meant to say
that buildworld builds "kernel source", meaning
~'files needed to build kernel'  ??  If you interpret
"libraries" as I did, that's what he meant

"make buildworld"  !=  "make buildkernel"

KDK

From: "Brian T.Schellenberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "parv" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "John Mills" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Balaji, Pavan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "FreeBSD-questions"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: Question on order and targets of kernel and world builds


>
> I'm pretty sure that that buildworld does *not* build kernels.
>
> If anybody has definitive information (like, proof) to the contrary I'd be
> interested in knowing.
>
> On Wednesday 17 July 2002 10:28 am, parv wrote:
> | in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> | wrote John Mills thusly...
> |
> | > Pavan -
> | >
> | > On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Balaji, Pavan wrote:
> | > > "make buildworld" -- builds the kernel and the libraries (both
kernel
> | > > and user level)
> | > >
> | > > "make buildkernel" -- builds only the kernel
> | >
> | > Thanks - I didn't realize 'buildkernel' was redundant to 'buildworld'.
> |
> | since when buildworld target starts building actual kernels?  or, is
> | there a communication problem either on my part or pavan's?



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Re: WebMail Options

[lists]

That is Correct, IMAP is not an option. Needs to read via POP3 on a or other
POP3 servers.

Thanks...

- Original Message - 
From: "Simon Dick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Moti Levy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 3:16 AM
Subject: Re: WebMail Options


> I use it too, but the problem is that it requires an IMAP server as a
> backend, I read his request as needing to use a POP3 server :|
> 
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2002 at 12:26:17PM -0400, Moti Levy wrote:
> > i use SquirrelMail its in the ports
> > 
> > 
> > > -Multiple domains - yes
> > > -POP3 - if you mean retriving email from pop3 clients than yes
> > > -Runs on FreeBSD, Apache, & CGI or PHP preferably - apache + php
> > > -SSL Option + broswer built
> > > -"User" friendly - extreamly freindly with lots of features ( spell check
> > and others )
> > > -Not too too expensive - free ...
> > 
> > enjoy
> > Moti
> > 
> > >
> > > We have looked at OpenWebmail and cannot seem to allow it to work
> > > with multiple domains (hosting environment). Anyone with documentation
> > > on how to, would be greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > > We have looked at Uebimiau for the longest time try to solve a bug.
> > > We have tried to contact the author several times without success.
> > > Below is my original post, hopefully someone who is using it can offer
> > > some further insight.
> > >
> > > Found here: http://www.uebimiau.sili.com.br/
> > >
> > > On a FreeBSD 4.6R server, when I send a message through the web
> > > interface, the recipient will see the following in the header fields
> > within their
> > > (any) mail client software (note the comments after each line):
> > >
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // which is right
> > > To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" @server.mydomain.com // which is NOT right
> > > CC: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" @server.mydomain.com // which is again
> > not right
> > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // which is right
> > >
> > > Any idea how can I stop the server from appending it's (or another) mail
> > server name
> > > after the 'To:' field. I have tried tweaking the code with no positive
> > results.
> > >
> > > We have also tried relaying the mail through the server Webmail is setup
> > on,
> > > right through sendmail, and two other FreeBSD servers running Sendmail.
> > >
> > > We have tried contacting the author several times, as well as the FAQ,
> > site, etc.
> > >
> > > Appreciate any assistance. Thank you,



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Re: Coding style and API's

[Kenneth Culver]

> > get on a freebsd machine and type "main style"

oops, yeah, typo, I meant man style... :-P
> >
> > for the api's, I have like 5 books on them, but I can't remember their
> > names but they're all by Stevens and can be found pretty easily.
> >
> > Ken
> >
> > On Wed, 17 Jul 2002, Rafter Man wrote:
> >
> > > Hi FreeBSD'ers
> > >
> > > I want to write programs for freebsd, so can you guide me to some info
> > about freebsd api's and coding style?
>
> "man 9 style" even. :)
>
> Have you also tried :
>
> 
>http:///doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/index.html
>
>   -byron
>
>


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Re: Adding disks via an expansion card

[Oscar Ricardo Silva]

At 08:16 AM 7/17/2002 -0700, David, you wrote:
>- Original Message -
>From: "David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> > I've looked through what I can of the Handbook and FAQ but can't seem to
> > find an answer.
> >
> > I have added a Maxtor UltraATA/100 PCI Adaptor Card to one of my machines
> > (to replace failing on-board IDE controllers).  On boot, I see that it is
> > detected and it detects the hard drive attached to it.  However, I have
>two
> > problems.
> >
> > 1) The CD-ROM attached to the card is not detected.
> > 2) The devices don't exist in /dev to do anything with it.
> >
> > I have tried to use 'MAKEDEV all' to get the devices to appear there, but
>it
> > doesn't seem to do it.  Do I have to add the devices manually?
> >
> > exerpt from dmesg:
> >
> > atapci1:  port
> > 0xec00-0xec3f,0xe800-0xe803,0xe400-0xe407,0xe000-0xe003,0xdc00-0xdc07 mem
> > 0xee00-0xee01 irq 11 at device 10.0 on pci0
> > ata2: at 0xdc00 on atapci1
> > ata3: at 0xe400 on atapci1
> > 
> > ad2: 2014MB  [4092/16/63] at ata1-master UDMA33
> > ad3: 12416MB  [25228/16/63] at ata1-slave UDMA33
> > ad4: 4121MB  [8374/16/63] at ata2-master UDMA33
> >
> >
>
>Well, I found a way to do this, though I'm wondering if there's an easier
>way.  I ended up removing an option in the kernel conf for static IDE
>numbering.  I recompiled that and rebooted.  On the way up I disabled the
>first IDE controller on the board.  When the rest of the machine came up the
>secondary master and secondary became ad0 and ad1, respectively, while the
>new controller's master and secondary became ad2 and ad3.
>
>While this works, it also means that I can't use the secondary controller on
>the add-on card I have.
>
>I found these lines in the kernel conf:
>
>device  ata0at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14
>device  ata1at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15
>
>Can I just add another line like this?   A friend also suggested I use the
>wd driver, but it appears to be mutually exclusive with the ata driver.
>Anyone know what the best way to do this would be or suggestions on what I
>could do?
>
>David


Have you tried going into /dev and issuing the MAKEDEV commands to make the 
individual devices?  How about going through /stand/sysinstall and seeing 
if you can manipulate the new drives from there?

I ran into the same problem with you after adding an ATA/66 card.  I had to 
add the create the devices /dev/ad6s1, etc. using MAKEDEV and that worked 
without a problem.


Oscar


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IPFW Syntax Question

[Drew Tomlinson]

What is the correct syntax to get ipfw to load rules from a file?  The
man page indicates that it's simply:

ipfw /path/filename

However when I try, I get this error:

ipfw: bad arguments, for usage summary ``ipfw''

What am I missing?

Thanks,

Drew


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Re: IPFW Syntax Question

[Jack L. Stone]

At 08:29 AM 7.17.2002 -0700, Drew Tomlinson wrote:
>What is the correct syntax to get ipfw to load rules from a file?  The
>man page indicates that it's simply:
>
>ipfw /path/filename
>
>However when I try, I get this error:
>
>ipfw: bad arguments, for usage summary ``ipfw''
>
>What am I missing?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Drew
>
I believe that's:
#/bin/sh /etc/rc.yourfw

Best regards,
Jack L. Stone,
Administrator

SageOne Net
http://www.sage-one.net
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Re: 80GB IDE Drive Compatible?

[Drew Tomlinson]

- Original Message -
From: "Pietralla, Siegfried P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Drew Tomlinson'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 5:35 PM
Subject: RE: 80GB IDE Drive Compatible?


> > -Original Message-
> > From: Drew Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, 17 July 2002 8:33
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: 80GB IDE Drive Compatible?
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 8:41 AM
> > Subject: 80GB IDE Drive Compatible?
> >
> >
> > > Setting up a new P4 1.7Ghz system, Maxtor ATA100 80GB HD.
> > >
> > > The BIOS see's the drive fine, size is correct.
> > >
> > > When I try to install 4.6Release, I am receiving the following:
> > >
> > > WARNING: A geometry of 155114/16/63 for ad0 is incorrect.
> > > Using a more likely geometry. If this geometry is incorrect or
> > > you are unsure as to whether or not it's correct, please consult
> > > the Hardware Guide in the Documentation submenu or use the
> > > (G)eometry command to change it now. etc
> > >
> > > Any suggestions? Try the G command and just specify? Any
> > > possible problems with this down the road?
> >
> > I am using an 80 GB IDE drive on my system and it is working fine.
As
> > someone else suggested, let FBSD pick the geometry and you should
be
> > OK.  It worked for me.
> >
>
> surely this is a bug with the installer ( or whatever front-end to
fdisk the
> installer uses )? i can run 'fdisk -f parfile ad3' and specify a
geometry of
> 116301/16/63 and things work fine - so apparently this geometry is
not
> 'incorrect'. ( this is reflecting dmesg - does this come from the
bios? i
> have my disk set to auto detect in the bios since it's in a caddy so
i never
> actually see what the bios thinks it has ). i like to be able to
script my
> entire disk configuration so i always have fdisk and disklabel
parameter
> files for all my disks which makes it much easier and quicker to
> rebuild/reconfigure as required. but this 'feature' means whenever i
use the
> installer it screws up my geometry ( since i can't seem to skip this
step ).
>
> is there any real reason why i shouldn't use 116301/16/63 ?

I don't really know.  I just used what it reported and it worked for
me.

Cheers,

Drew


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SGI's STL (Standard Template Library) in base system?

[Andreas Ntaflos]

Hello list, 
  Maybe I should be posting this to -hackers, but I'll try anyway. 
  
  Is the Standard Template Library somehow contained in the base
  system of FreeBSD? I know there is the ports devel/stlport, but if
  it also resides in the base system (just like sendmail, perl, ssh,
  etc..) it would be no good idea to install it from ports, would it?
  
  But if I have to install the port, is it any good? Is it useable? 

  I would appreciate any tips.

TIA
regards
-- 
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Re: SGI's STL (Standard Template Library) in base system?

[M. Warner Losh]

In message: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Andreas Ntaflos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
:   Is the Standard Template Library somehow contained in the base
:   system of FreeBSD?

Yes.

:   But if I have to install the port, is it any good? Is it useable? 

The stl in the base is adequate for most uses, but sophisticated users
will have issues.

Warner

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Thoughts on Web Site Design / Builder apps?

[Stacey Roberts]

Hi,
  I'm a hands-up newbie at web design and html stuff, but would like to
learn for my own amusement on my home system.

Is anyone able to recommend a nice informative and straight-forward
website design / building app from the ports collection?

Thanks for the time.

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RE: Question on order and targets of kernel and world builds

[Balaji, Pavan]

Nope. buildworld != builkernel. But buildworld does link the libraries. For
example if you have a system call and a corresponding library, buildkernel
will not be sufficient for you to allow the library call to invoke the
corresponding system call -- however a buildworld would do that.


Pavan Balaji,
Intel Corporation

"Only the Paranoid Survive"  --  Andy Grove


> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 10:51 AM
> To: Brian T.Schellenberger; parv; John Mills
> Cc: Balaji, Pavan; FreeBSD-questions
> Subject: Re: Question on order and targets of kernel and world builds
> 
> 
> He's either quite wrong, or he meant to say
> that buildworld builds "kernel source", meaning
> ~'files needed to build kernel'  ??  If you interpret
> "libraries" as I did, that's what he meant
> 
> "make buildworld"  !=  "make buildkernel"
> 
> KDK
> 
> From: "Brian T.Schellenberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "parv" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "John Mills" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "Balaji, Pavan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "FreeBSD-questions"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 9:59 AM
> Subject: Re: Question on order and targets of kernel and world builds
> 
> 
> >
> > I'm pretty sure that that buildworld does *not* build kernels.
> >
> > If anybody has definitive information (like, proof) to the 
> contrary I'd be
> > interested in knowing.
> >
> > On Wednesday 17 July 2002 10:28 am, parv wrote:
> > | in message
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > | wrote John Mills thusly...
> > |
> > | > Pavan -
> > | >
> > | > On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Balaji, Pavan wrote:
> > | > > "make buildworld" -- builds the kernel and the libraries (both
> kernel
> > | > > and user level)
> > | > >
> > | > > "make buildkernel" -- builds only the kernel
> > | >
> > | > Thanks - I didn't realize 'buildkernel' was redundant 
> to 'buildworld'.
> > |
> > | since when buildworld target starts building actual 
> kernels?  or, is
> > | there a communication problem either on my part or pavan's?
> 
> 

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Re: Problems with ports

[Matthew Seaman]

On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 07:10:57PM +0400, Boris wrote:

> I`m using my FreeBSD 4.4 at home and as a result I have to use dial up for
> Internet. And while using ports I`m disconnecting and program didn`t
> download, I must to start again. It`s very uncomfortable for me, as a
> result I must use wget or other. Why not to add a future a resuming
> download for ports? Please answer. Thank You

Yes --- I've had that experience.  However, adding a "resume download"
for ports is probably not going to happen.  The reasons are:

   i) If you're using an `always on' sort of connection (ADSL, leased
   line), then download failures are usually to do with more serious
   problems than a disconnected phone call.  In that case it's better
   to give up, return some sort of error and rely on human
   intervention to fix the problem.  It's usually better to delete any
   partially downloaded files as well -- because ...

   ii) The ports Makefiles have no way of telling if a file has been
   completely downloaded.  They work essentially on whether a file of
   the right name is there or not.  If the file is there, the make
   program will assume that the download worked and go on to the next
   stage: comparing the downloaded file against the recorded checksum.
   Even that cannot distinguish between a file that has been truncated
   by an incomplete download or a file that has been altered in some
   other way -- e.g. replaced by different contents.

   iii) If you are on a system where truncated downloads are a
   problem, then you do have the option of doing a `fetch -r'
   manually.  You set 'FETCH_BEFORE_ARGS= -R' in /etc/make.conf to
   stop the ports system deleting what you've just downloaded.
 
> P.S:Sorry for my English.

It's better than my Russian.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Error mounting cdrom

[Lowell Gilbert]

Joseph Maxwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I've tried your suggestions on FreeBSD vers 4.2
> output ==>
> 
> 
>  cd9660: -o users: option not supported
> 
> Comments ???

That advice doesn't apply to FreeBSD: that keyword is a Linuxism.  
The problem itself is a Frequently Asked Question; see:
http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#USER-FLOPPYMOUNT

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Re: SGI's STL (Standard Template Library) in base system?

[Chris BeHanna]

On Wed, 17 Jul 2002, Andreas Ntaflos wrote:

> Hello list,
>   Maybe I should be posting this to -hackers, but I'll try anyway.
>
>   Is the Standard Template Library somehow contained in the base
>   system of FreeBSD? I know there is the ports devel/stlport, but if

The GCC STL is in the base system.  I've had problems with
thread-safe allocators in the GCC 2.95 version.  I haven't tried it in
the 3.x series.

>   it also resides in the base system (just like sendmail, perl, ssh,
>   etc..) it would be no good idea to install it from ports, would it?

The port will install into /usr/local/include/stlport.  There should
be no worries, but you'll have to add -nostdinc++
-I/usr/local/include/stlport to your CXXFLAGS to use the stlport
version.

>   But if I have to install the port, is it any good? Is it useable?

My experience with it was on Solaris, and it was quite good
indeed.  There are some Koenig lookup issues when building older
versions of Crypto++ against it, but the current versions should play
happily together.

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ssh problem

[Ryan Masse]

I have several FreeBSD machines in production all running sshd as the sole
method of terminal services. I have one machine in particular that is
producing rather strange results when trying to ssh into the machine. I have
c/p a snipet of the output from the console below:

login as: USER
otp-md5 368 we8402 ext
S/Key Password:
Access denied
USER@DOMAIN password:
Last login: Wed Jul 17 14:40:05 2002 from ptr-207-54-105-9
Copyright (c) 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1990, 1991, 1993, 1994
The Regents of the University of California.  All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE-p1 (web2) #0: Thu Feb 28 10:36:19 EST 2002

What is the ouput "otp-md5 368 we8402 ext"? This does not appear on any of
the other machines. Can someone please advise?

Thanks,
Ryan



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RE: ssh problem

[Balaji, Pavan]

The reason why this output would have come up is that you might have
initialized the system to use the S/Key one time passwords -- probably using
keyinit.

I don't know exactly how to get rid of the problem (I myself have it too),
but you can set the password to your login password using keyinit (again!).

Sorry! Not too much of a help.

Pavan Balaji,
Intel Corporation

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> -Original Message-
> From: Ryan Masse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 1:44 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: ssh problem
> 
> 
> I have several FreeBSD machines in production all running 
> sshd as the sole
> method of terminal services. I have one machine in particular that is
> producing rather strange results when trying to ssh into the 
> machine. I have
> c/p a snipet of the output from the console below:
> 
> login as: USER
> otp-md5 368 we8402 ext
> S/Key Password:
> Access denied
> USER@DOMAIN password:
> Last login: Wed Jul 17 14:40:05 2002 from ptr-207-54-105-9
> Copyright (c) 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1990, 1991, 1993, 1994
> The Regents of the University of California.  All 
> rights reserved.
> FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE-p1 (web2) #0: Thu Feb 28 10:36:19 EST 2002
> 
> What is the ouput "otp-md5 368 we8402 ext"? This does not 
> appear on any of
> the other machines. Can someone please advise?
> 
> Thanks,
> Ryan
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Control of ppp dial-in

[Lowell Gilbert]

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> I would like to be able to control the time of day that ppp is able to dial the 
>modem on a 
> freebsd-4.5 box , 8-5 in -ddial mode, then deny requests at other times.
> Any ideas? 

This is covered in the man page for pppctl(8)...

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Strange files in /usr/ports (#cvs.cvsup-nnnn.1)

[Carlos Carnero]

Hi,

I have several files on /usr/ports/ of the form
#cvs.cvsup-n.1 (for example, #cvs.cvsup-14872.1)
Can I delete those files? (it seems to me they're from
several interrupted cvs updates I've had in the past,
but don't know for sure.)

Best regards,
Carlos.

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Fw: IPFW Syntax Question

[Drew Tomlinson]

- Original Message -
From: "Jack L. Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Drew Tomlinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 9:33 AM

> At 08:29 AM 7.17.2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >What is the correct syntax to get ipfw to load rules from a file?
The
> >man page indicates that it's simply:
> >
> >ipfw /path/filename
> >
> >However when I try, I get this error:
> >
> >ipfw: bad arguments, for usage summary ``ipfw''
> >
> >What am I missing?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Drew
> >
>
> ...what's this...??? You ask a question, but block at the same
> time...
> "Connection refused by blacklamb.mykitchentable.net"

It was a stroke of bad luck.  My DSL modem rebooted and when it came
back up, it had a different IP address.  I use ZoneEdit for DNS
services and have a cron job that updates my address every hour.  So
my DNS entry wasn't correct for about 50 minutes and you were being
refused by whatever system had my old address.  One of these days I'll
write a better script so I can update my address when it changes
instead of just doing it every hour whether or not it is needed.

Thanks for the answer.  You are correct.

Take care,

Drew


P.S. I'm sending this to the list as I got the following response when
sending directly to you.

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Release 4.5 and 4.6 - Boot.flp 2.8 mb?

[Richard Durham]

I have checked both releases 4.5 and 4.6, the boot.flp file is 2.8mb?? How 
can that be transferred to a single floppy?
I've searched everywhere and found no answers.
When trying to copy to a floppy Rawrite just registers an error - bad 
sector: 1

Should the file be split and if so how?

Thanks for your help.

Cpt

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pppoe and routing

[Douglas C. Garrick]

Hi.

I ran into a snag here lately and because I am in over my head I thought
I'd better ask the pros.

I have been running my (home) network for about a year now using a 4.1
machine as a gateway with a combination of ipfw and nat.  The public
side was a 3com xl card to the ISPs cable modem and the private side was
a 3c509 to a hub.  This worked quite well up till last month when the
ISP changed protocols to PPPoE.   

I upgraded the gateway machine to 4.5 ( I couldn't get 4.6.to install
due to write protection error when uncompressing to the disk).  I added
IPDIVERTS to the kernel, created a working /etc/ppp/ppp.conf and things
looked good to that point. 
 
I have a working pppoe side and the private side works fine,  I just
can't route between the two interfaces.  I am running routed.

Any guidance would certainly be appreciated.

Doug Garrick




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Re: When is FreeBSD going to work properly with KVM switches?

[Philip J. Koenig]

> Date: 16 Jul 2002 18:07:12 -0700
> From: Steve Wingate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> On Tue, 2002-07-16 at 10:33, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > I also have the problem that the KVM must be set to the machine being booted
> > in order for the mouse and keyboard to work properly. This is a know problem
> > and there was discussion on it. The problem seems to have appeared with 4.2.
> > I saw a fix in the freebsd-stable archives:
> > 
> >Message: 4695118,
> >FROM: John Baldwin, 
> >DATE: 11/20/2000 16:43:35
> >SUBJECT: RE:  4.2 Showstopper? Belkin KVM switch problems with FreeBSD 4.2
> > 
> > Basically the proposed solution was to remove the `flags 0x1' from the
> > atkbd0 device line in the i386/conf/file
> > 
> > This fixed the problem I was having with the Omni Cube 4-Port. I have
> > not checked if this problem still occurs with 4.6.
> > 
> 
> Actually, if one searches through the archives you'll find the mouse/kvm
> issue dates back to the 3.x days. Apparently it isn't a high priority so
> I wouldn't hold my breath for an always working fix.


I really really really wouldn't be so quick to assume the problem is 
FreeBSD.  In my experience, Belkin's are not very good KVMs, I won't 
use them any more, personally.  I've had problems with them not 
correctly initializing keyboard or mouse ports with Windows as well.
Never had a problem with FreeBSD and KVM switches, personally.

If you want a good KVM, stick with either Avocent (my personal 
preference - used to be Cybex and Apex), Raritan, Rose, or one of the 
companies that OEMs the Avocent switches. (ie Compaq, HP, Dell) The 
cheapo KVMs are cheap for a reason. 

(Then you've got "RichardH" saying Belkin's are overpriced, LOL.. 
well I never tried D-link KVMs, maybe they're OK for a cheapo 
model :-)


Phil



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SSH-like program

[Rafter Man]

Hi again

I want to write a program that -like ssh- use an encrypted connection (SSH2 protocol). 
Is there some functions or libs you can guide me to?

Best regards
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need webserver advice regarding wget

[default]

Hello,

I run some FreeBSD webservers and recently a client of mine has asked that I
install wget. I know that this is a fairly common application, but I am not
very familiar with it.

I just wanted to ask you guy's advice on whether or not there are any
security concerns at all that may come with this, or any other reason that
one might not want this on a shared webserver?

Thanks,

Jordan

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Re: Question on order and targets of kernel and world builds

[parv]

in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
wrote Balaji, Pavan thusly...
>
> Nope. buildworld != builkernel. But buildworld does link the
> libraries.

thanks for clearing that up.  for a moment you had me in utter
amazement.

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Re: need webserver advice regarding wget

[Jim Mock]

On Wednesday, July 17, 2002, at 12:52 PM, default wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I run some FreeBSD webservers and recently a client of mine has 
> asked that I
> install wget. I know that this is a fairly common application, 
> but I am not
> very familiar with it.
>
> I just wanted to ask you guy's advice on whether or not there are any
> security concerns at all that may come with this, or any other 
> reason that
> one might not want this on a shared webserver?

Unless they want some functionality specific to wget, they 
should be able to use fetch (which is in the base system).  It 
does pretty much the same thing as wget, but chances are they 
don't know it exists.

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Re: need webserver advice regarding wget

[Jonathan Chen]

On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 02:52:28PM -0500, default wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I run some FreeBSD webservers and recently a client of mine has asked that I
> install wget. I know that this is a fairly common application, but I am not
> very familiar with it.

It's like fetch(1).
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Re: Thoughts on Web Site Design / Builder apps?

[Wayne Pascoe]

Stacey Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi,
>   I'm a hands-up newbie at web design and html stuff, but would like to
> learn for my own amusement on my home system.
> 
> Is anyone able to recommend a nice informative and straight-forward
> website design / building app from the ports collection?

If you're planning on learning for the sake of learning, I would
suggest that you learn about HTML as opposed to learning how to use a
single tool to produce HTML. 

Start at http://www.w3c.org and also take a look at web pages that
look like what you want to build. 

Any editor can be used to create HTML and if you understand it you
will be far better equipped to use wysiwyg tools. You'll also produce
better code :)

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pkg_add problem w/ slightly old dependencies

[parv]

(mutt-devel port is just an example below; it happens w/ any other
port in similar scenario.)


i installed mutt-devel & created a mutt-1.5.1 package.  after
de installing it and trying to do pkg_add, i get the following
error...

  # pkg_add ./mutt-devel-1.5.1.tgz
  pkg_add: could not find package libslang-1.4.5 !
  pkg_add: could not find package libiconv-1.8 !
  pkg_add: could not find package gettext-0.11.2 !
  pkg_add: could not find package expat-1.95.3 !
  pkg_add: could not find package cyrus-sasl-1.5.27_4 !

...though i don't have those particular ports installed, i sure do
have the ports which come darn close to the list...

  libslang-1.4.3
  libiconv-1.7.0.1
  gettext-0.11.1_3
  expat-1.95.2
  cyrus-sasl-1.5.27_2

...it is not easy or practical to always upgrade the installed ports
whenever pkg_add fails.  the only choice, if there is one, that
remains is of re-building & re-installing the port.


is there a way to workaround the problem w/o the rebuild/reinstall
process so that pkg_add would work w/ already installed ports?


  - parv

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Claiming a device which is already claimed byanother driver.

[Sabapathi, Vanishree]

I am new to freeBSD.
I am writing a character device driver for a pci-ide controller.
The problem is that atapci driver already claims my device. So in essence I
need to
detach the atapci driver from my device and then claim it 
I have tried using the bus_generic_detach to detach the atapci driver, 
now how will I get to my attach entry point?? 
Or is there is any way in which my probe entry point to be called for  a
device that is already attached to another driver.
 
Regards,
-Vanishree


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Re: Release 4.5 and 4.6 - Boot.flp 2.8 mb?

[Simon Dick]

On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 07:26:27PM +, Richard Durham wrote:
> 
> I have checked both releases 4.5 and 4.6, the boot.flp file is 2.8mb?? How 
> can that be transferred to a single floppy?
> I've searched everywhere and found no answers.
> When trying to copy to a floppy Rawrite just registers an error - bad 
> sector: 1
> 
> Should the file be split and if so how?

The 2.88mb floppy image is usually used to boot the cdrom, or for people
with 2.88mb floppy drives. If you have the more common 1.44mb one then
you need to write kern.flp and mfsroot.flp to seperate floppies.

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Software License Sound Bites, Version 0.1

[Karl O . Pinc]

In an effort to combat the general confusion surrounding the terms
Free Software and Open Source, I have attempted to write some sound
bites to define, contrast, and comment on the terms.  I believe I've got
the definitions for each term down to two sentences.  The entire
document is currently 291 words (sans title and lawyerosity.)  Success
in this endeavor could go a long way toward combating the general
mis-information being spread.  If nothing else it would provide a
simple way to point out errors to the mainstream press.

There is no catch-phrase for "BSD style license", but would like my
text to satisfy those who advocate this type of license as well.  I
believe the best way to serve everyone's interests is to provide clear
and accurate explanations of the various "open" licenses.

(The increasing popularity of Free Software and Open Source software,
has resulted in increased public interest and a corresponding tendency
in proprietary software vendors to either align themselves with or
co-opt these movements.  The resultant surge in press coverage and
overall conversation seems to have increased rather than decreased the
general confusion surrounding the meaning of the terms Free Software
and Open Source, or at least has brought the scope of the
misunderstandings to my attention.)

I'm looking for corrections, omissions, blessings, curses or any other
comments you may have.

I'd be indebted to anyone who knows their grammar and punctuation for
corrections and comments.  I covet edits which further reduce the size
of the text.

Regards the Open Source sound bite:

The "by anyone for any purpose" would seem to express the spirit of
the "no discrimination" clauses of the definition, sections 5, 6, 8,
and 9.  Section 1 is covered by "for sale or for fee, without payment
of royalties."  Sections 2 and 3 are covered by "read and improved
... by anyone who has a working copy".  This only leaves sections 4
and 7, which to my mind simply describe technical details.

Thanks for your help.

Karl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

-
 Software License Sound Bites
 Version 0.1
 Karl O. Pinc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  President, The Meme Factory, Inc.
 http://www.meme.com

   Copyright (c) 2002, Karl O. Pinc
   Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this
   document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License,
   Version 1.1 or any later version published by the Free Software
   Foundation; with no Invariant Sections, with no Front-Cover
   Texts, and with no Back-Cover Texts.  A copy of the license is
   available at "http://www.gnu.org/licenses/fdl.txt";.

Free Software can be used, improved, and given away or sold, by anyone
who has legally obtained a working copy of the software.  Just two,
optional, restrictions on the use of the software are permitted:
should the software be defective, the authors cannot be sued; in turn,
the rights of use, alteration, and re-distribution must continue to be
passed onward to those who have legally obtained subsequent
improvements.  Free Software subject to the second of these optional
restrictions is said to be copylefted.  The GNU GPL is the original
Free Software copyleft license.

Open Source software is that which can be used, read, and improved,
for any purpose, by anyone who has legally obtained a working copy of
the software; improvements may be re-distributed, either for sale or
for free, without payment of royalties.  Other restrictions compatible
with these criteria may exist.

As the neither of the two restrictions allowed by the Free Software
definition violate the Open Source criteria, Free Software is one
variety of Open Source software.  As the Open Source definition allows
other restrictions to be placed on the use, distribution, and
modification of the software, all Open Source software is not Free
Software.

Users of Free Software who understand the Free Software definition and
know whether their software is copylefted can be confident they know
their rights and obligations.  Users of Open Source software who
understand the Open source definition can be confident they have
certain rights.  Users of any kind of non-Free Software must examine
the terms of their software license(s) to discover what obligations
they have to the copyright holder and what restrictions the license
may place on their activities.

For more information see The Free Software Definition
(http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) and The Open Source
Definition (http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition.php).

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vadduser

[Daryl Meese]

Hello,

I am currently running FreeBSD in a virtual server environment and have two
"hopefully" quick questions.

When I use vadduser with verbose mode turned off (-v) how do I set disk
quotas for ftp and mail services
I know -s "ftp mail" but cannot figure out how to get it to accept quotas

what are the commands for adding alias accounts?

Your help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Daryl


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scp and non-shell accounts.

[Ken McGlothlen]

I have one system where my users have shell accounts and hang out on.  This has
an Apache server installed as a staging server.  I have another system which is
the production webserver.

I want my users to be able to transfer files to the production webserver using
scp or sftp, but not to have shell access on the production webserver.

So on the production machine, each of these users has a home directory, and a
shell of /sbin/nologin.

The problem is, this seems to trounce scp and sftp.  I get

wibble@staging:~(1)$ scp transfer.txt wibble@prod:~
wibble@prod's password: [type password]

This account is currently not available. [from /sbin/nologin]
wibble@staging:~(2)$ sftp prod
Connecting to prod...
wibble@prod's password: [type password]
Received message too long 173237622
wibble@staging:~(3)$ _

Do I really have to permit shell access for these accounts in order to use scp
or sftp?


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konsole and gnome-terminal problem

[Nielsen]

Hi! I've just started using a GUI on FreeBSD. I've installed both GNOME and
KDE.

Initially I had no problems with the terminal programs, but now both
'konsole' and 'gnome-terminal' error on startup. I'm sure I changed
something, but now konsole exits as soon as it shows up on the screen. Just
flashes for a second. And gnome-terminal pops up an error dialog with the
following:

"There was an error creating the child process for this terminal: Resource
temporarily unavailable."

Sometime's it'll say the same above but with the EPIPE error message. This
happens whether when run from within both GNOME or KDE. I've tried changing
my shell, but that didn't help. The strange thing is that xterm works just
fine.

I'm using FreeBSD 4.6, XFree86-4.2, gnome2-2, KDE 3.0, with kdm as my
display manager. Any ideas?

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freebsd and ARCserve

[galle]

Hi !!! 
 
i want to backup a freeBSD server using the 
arcserver client (uagent). But there is no client
for freebsd hosts. How can i do that 
???
Can i use the linux client ???  
 
 
Thanks all 
 
Gustavo Alle 

Telnetd

[Rafter Man]

Hi Subscribers

If I have a server running telnetd and sshd, how can I denie a users telnet access (he 
must have ssh access also using passwords).

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Re: Telnetd

[Roman Neuhauser]

> From: "Rafter Man" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 05:47:49 +0800
> Subject: Telnetd
 
please, wrap your lines at about 72 chars

> Hi Subscribers
> 
> If I have a server running telnetd and sshd, how can I denie a users
> telnet access (he must have ssh access also using passwords).

disable telnet in /etc/inetd.conf (isn't it off by default??)

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Re: Telnetd

[Rafter Man]

- Original Message -
From: Roman Neuhauser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> please, wrap your lines at about 72 chars

I am using a webmailer, so it is out of my hands.
 
> disable telnet in /etc/inetd.conf (isn't it off by default??)

Let's take it again one more time, from the top:
I have a system running telnetd and sshd
Some users may NOT use telnet to login, they have to login via sshd (using passwords).

How do I do that?

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why/how new kernel build method succeeds after old method fails?

[parv]

now and then i see messages on -questions & -stable list stating
that "old" (config && cd && make) kernel building method fails while
the "new" (make buildkernel) method succeeds afterwords.

i would have expected to new method to fail too.  could anybody
explain the phenomenon?

  - parv

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Re: Telnetd

[Roman Neuhauser]

> From: "Rafter Man" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 06:01:16 +0800
> Subject: Re: Telnetd
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Roman Neuhauser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > please, wrap your lines at about 72 chars
> 
> I am using a webmailer, so it is out of my hands.

hm :/

> > disable telnet in /etc/inetd.conf (isn't it off by default??)
> 
> Let's take it again one more time, from the top:
> I have a system running telnetd and sshd
> Some users may NOT use telnet to login, they have to login via sshd
> (using passwords).
> 
> How do I do that?

i'm not aware of any method. so, before someone comes with a
solution (if there's one), why can't all users use ssh?

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Re: why/how new kernel build method succeeds after old method fails?

[Erik Trulsson]

On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 06:07:28PM -0400, parv wrote:
> now and then i see messages on -questions & -stable list stating
> that "old" (config && cd && make) kernel building method fails while
> the "new" (make buildkernel) method succeeds afterwords.
> 
> i would have expected to new method to fail too.  could anybody
> explain the phenomenon?

The "old" method uses the compiler/linker/etc. that you
already have installed to build the kernel.
The "new" method uses the tools just built by a previous buildworld,
that are presumably more up to date.


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Internet Fax and FreeBSD

[Lord Raiden]

HI all.  Got a question.  I saw this the other day and I had almost forgot 
all about this since I haven't heard or talked about it in ages with 
anyone.  But what I saw was someone using an internet fax service on their 
computer (namely my hardware supplier) to receive faxed in bids and price 
quotes and in turn to send in orders to the suppliers.

I could set this up using Winfax on one of our 2k server, but I'd rather 
do it on a Freebsd server since I have more of them and I am not a big fan 
of Winfax anyways.  :)  What port or program would I use to setup such a 
thing on one of our systems and what, if any service would we need to 
signup to in order to use this?  Would I be able to receive internet faxes 
from other people who are also setup to send them, or would I again need to 
go through an online fax service?

I'm exploring this as a possibility right now, so I'm just asking to see 
what options are out there.  Plus it gives me something to do when we get 
some freetime.  :)  I'm looking for a new toy to play with.  hehe.

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Re: Telnetd

[Rafter Man]

- Original Message -
From: Roman Neuhauser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > I am using a webmailer, so it is out of my hands.
> 
> hm :/

:-)

> > Let's take it again one more time, from the top:
> > I have a system running telnetd and sshd
> > Some users may NOT use telnet to login, they have to login via sshd
> > (using passwords).
> > 
> > How do I do that?
> 
> i'm not aware of any method. so, before someone comes with a
> solution (if there's one), why can't all users use ssh?

I also use ssh, but I am writting a program which may be used on servers running both 
ssh and telnet. So I need to know how a users can login to pop3 and ssh, but not 
telnet (even though telnet is running). I had hoped that there maybe where an 
/etc/telnetusers, like /etc/ftpusers.

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Re: Telnetd

[Daniel Bye]

On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 12:09:52AM +0200, Roman Neuhauser wrote:
> > I have a system running telnetd and sshd
> > Some users may NOT use telnet to login, they have to login via sshd
> > (using passwords).
> > 
> > How do I do that?
> 
> i'm not aware of any method. so, before someone comes with a
> solution (if there's one), why can't all users use ssh?

Perhaps you can take advantage of the $SSH_TTY variable that gets set
for all ssh logins?  A shell rc file can test for the presence (or
absence, as you prefer) of this variable in the user's evironment and
take the appropriate action (continue, or kill the shell and log the
user off again.)

At least one problem comes to mind, though, in that you would have to 
be quite draconian about ownership and permissions on the rc files,
or users can simply edit or remove them.

Maybe provide a standard one that performs the test, then if the 
session is permitted, make its last action to source another rc file
that the user can edit (called, say, .login.local).  You can then use 
"chflags schg" on the one YOU want control over.

Haven't tried it, though, and it would involve writing variants of
the file for Bourne-style shells and C-style shells.

Then again, there may be more elegant ways of doing it...

Dan 

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Re: Telnetd

[Rafter Man]

- Original Message - 
From: "Daniel Bye" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > I have a system running telnetd and sshd
> > > Some users may NOT use telnet to login, they have to login via sshd
> > > (using passwords).

> Perhaps you can take advantage of the $SSH_TTY variable that gets set
> for all ssh logins?  A shell rc file can test for the presence (or
> absence, as you prefer) of this variable in the user's evironment and
> take the appropriate action (continue, or kill the shell and log the
> user off again.)
> 
> At least one problem comes to mind, though, in that you would have to 
> be quite draconian about ownership and permissions on the rc files,
> or users can simply edit or remove them.
> 
> Maybe provide a standard one that performs the test, then if the 
> session is permitted, make its last action to source another rc file
> that the user can edit (called, say, .login.local).  You can then use 
> "chflags schg" on the one YOU want control over.
> 
> Haven't tried it, though, and it would involve writing variants of
> the file for Bourne-style shells and C-style shells.
> 
> Then again, there may be more elegant ways of doing it...

Not a bad idea, thanks for your input :-)

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Re: why/how new kernel build method succeeds after old method fails?

[parv]

in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
wrote Erik Trulsson thusly...
>
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 06:07:28PM -0400, parv wrote:
> > now and then i see messages on -questions & -stable list stating
> > that "old" (config && cd && make) kernel building method fails while
> > the "new" (make buildkernel) method succeeds afterwords.
> > 
> > i would have expected to new method to fail too.  could anybody
> > explain the phenomenon?
> 
> The "old" method uses the compiler/linker/etc. that you
> already have installed to build the kernel.
> The "new" method uses the tools just built by a previous buildworld,
> that are presumably more up to date.

may be that's why i haven't experienced the problem personally!

your comment seems to imply that people upgrade the source, don't go
thru the install world process, and continue on to build kernel old
way.

according to UPDATING, one shouldn't do that anyway for versions 4.0
(2315) onward (build the kernel the new way instead).  to me,
that indicates that people are not reading UPDATING carefully
enough.


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"^L" File, needs to be Removed

[lists]

server /etc/namedb/ # ls -la |more
total 970
-rw-r--r--   1 bind  bind   -552 Aug  8  2000 ^L
drwxr-xr-x   2 bind  wheel  -  10240 Jul 17 17:06 ./
drwxr-xr-x  19 root  wheel  -   2560 Jul 17 17:20 ../

Can only be opened via (editor of choice) ?, e.g. pico ?

The file contains a zone file, from ages ago, but the original zone file is fine and
is still there.

Even after a quick secondary backup of the whole directory, I am hesitant to
perform a rm ? because the directory contains 100's of critical zone files.

Any safe way to remove it and why sometimes after an ls -la the file comes up
as ^L and other times ? and only can be opened when you specify ?

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Re: "^L" File, needs to be Removed

[mpd]

On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 05:30:21PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> server /etc/namedb/ # ls -la |more
> total 970
> -rw-r--r--   1 bind  bind   -552 Aug  8  2000 ^L
> drwxr-xr-x   2 bind  wheel  -  10240 Jul 17 17:06 ./
> drwxr-xr-x  19 root  wheel  -   2560 Jul 17 17:20 ../
> 
> Can only be opened via (editor of choice) ?, e.g. pico ?
> 
> The file contains a zone file, from ages ago, but the original zone file is fine and
> is still there.
> 
> Even after a quick secondary backup of the whole directory, I am hesitant to
> perform a rm ? because the directory contains 100's of critical zone files.
> 
> Any safe way to remove it and why sometimes after an ls -la the file comes up
> as ^L and other times ? and only can be opened when you specify ?
> 
> Thank you! :)

rm 
The ctrl-v will allow you to remove any file that's named ctrl-something.

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Re: Software License Sound Bites, Version 0.1

[Russell Nelson]

Karl O . Pinc writes:
 > I'm looking for corrections, omissions, blessings, curses or any other
 > comments you may have.

I don't believe your "Software License Sound Bites" is accurate, but
neither am I interested in correcting it.  Sorry.

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Re: "^L" File, needs to be Removed

[Oscar Ricardo Silva]

This might help:



UNIX: How To Deal With Filenames Containing Unprintable/Special Characters



Oscar

At 05:30 PM 7/17/2002 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED], you wrote:
>server /etc/namedb/ # ls -la |more
>total 970
>-rw-r--r--   1 bind  bind   -552 Aug  8  2000 ^L
>drwxr-xr-x   2 bind  wheel  -  10240 Jul 17 17:06 ./
>drwxr-xr-x  19 root  wheel  -   2560 Jul 17 17:20 ../
>
>Can only be opened via (editor of choice) ?, e.g. pico ?
>
>The file contains a zone file, from ages ago, but the original zone file 
>is fine and
>is still there.
>
>Even after a quick secondary backup of the whole directory, I am hesitant to
>perform a rm ? because the directory contains 100's of critical zone files.
>
>Any safe way to remove it and why sometimes after an ls -la the file comes up
>as ^L and other times ? and only can be opened when you specify ?
>
>Thank you! :)
>
>
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Re: "^L" File, needs to be Removed

[Daniel Bye]

On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 05:30:21PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> server /etc/namedb/ # ls -la |more
> total 970
> -rw-r--r--   1 bind  bind   -552 Aug  8  2000 ^L
> drwxr-xr-x   2 bind  wheel  -  10240 Jul 17 17:06 ./
> drwxr-xr-x  19 root  wheel  -   2560 Jul 17 17:20 ../
> 
> Can only be opened via (editor of choice) ?, e.g. pico ?
> 
> The file contains a zone file, from ages ago, but the original zone file is fine and
> is still there.
> 
> Even after a quick secondary backup of the whole directory, I am hesitant to
> perform a rm ? because the directory contains 100's of critical zone files.
> 
> Any safe way to remove it and why sometimes after an ls -la the file comes up
> as ^L and other times ? and only can be opened when you specify ?

# rm -i -- ?

The -i will at least prompt you before deleting the file, in case you 
change your mind or you have multiple files in the directory with a single
character name.  (Although, as I just found when I made a file called
"^L", your shell will likely interpret it as the "clear screen" character,
so you won't actually see the confirmation message from rm anyway!  Should
have seen that one coming...)

Incidentally, the "--" trick works with less, and various others, too.

It shows up in directory listings as "?" because that is the default 
action for ls when it encounters a non-printing character and the output
stream is attached to stdout.  You can use ls -B to show the characters' 
octal value, or ls -b to display them, where possible, as C escape 
characters.

Dan

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Crusoe TM5800 support

[Brandon D. Valentine]

[ Please keep me in the Cc; I'm not subscribed to -questions. ]

I've recently acquired a new laptop with a Crusoe TM5800 CPU in it.  I'm
trying to determine the optimal kernel configuration for this machine
and the docs appear to be lacking in this area.  I initially built a
kernel with all _CPU options but I686_CPU diked out.  The kernel failed
to boot so I went back to GENERIC and found out that it actually shows
up in dmesg as an I586 class CPU.  I've now got a kernel built which has
all of the default _CPU options back in it and that's running fine.  I
also built a new world for the thing earlier today and both the current
world and kernel running on it were built with CPUTYPE=i686 in
/etc/make.conf.  If I am to interpret the dmesg correctly then this CPU
should not support the i686 instruction set but it doesn't seem to be
suffering from any i686 specific optimizations.  In fact, I just built
the XFree86-4 port plus all dependencies using the -march=pentiumpro'd
kernel and userland and it worked just fine.

Does anyone know definitively whether this thing supports the i686
instruction set and if so why dmesg reports it as an i586 class CPU?

dmesg snippet:
CPU: Transmeta(tm) Crusoe(tm) Processor TM5800 (730.44MHz 586-class CPU)

OS version:
[bandix@taran ~]% uname -a
FreeBSD taran 4.6-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 4.6-RELEASE-p2 #1: Wed Jul 17
16:07:22 CDT 2002 root@taran:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TARAN  i386

Thanks,

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Re: Software License Sound Bites, Version 0.1

[Perry E. Metzger]

"Karl O . Pinc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> In an effort to combat the general confusion surrounding the terms
> Free Software and Open Source, I have attempted to write some sound
> bites to define, contrast, and comment on the terms.

Other than RMS's desire to distinguish his work from open source work,
what's the point?

Myself, I find the discussion fruitless. I write code, I give it away.
I'm not interested in furthering battles between the People's Judean
Liberation Front, the Judean People's Liberation Front, and the
People's Front for the Liberation of Judea.


Perry

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Re: Software License Sound Bites, Version 0.1

[Peter Seebach]

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Perry E. Metzger" writes:
>Myself, I find the discussion fruitless. I write code, I give it away.
>I'm not interested in furthering battles between the People's Judean
>Liberation Front, the Judean People's Liberation Front, and the
>People's Front for the Liberation of Judea.

Amen!

-s

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Re: scp and non-shell accounts.

[Matthew Seaman]

On Wed, Jul 17, 2002 at 02:11:34PM -0700, Ken McGlothlen wrote:

> I have one system where my users have shell accounts and hang out
> on.  This has an Apache server installed as a staging server.  I
> have another system which is the production webserver.

> I want my users to be able to transfer files to the production
> webserver using scp or sftp, but not to have shell access on the
> production webserver.

> So on the production machine, each of these users has a home
> directory, and a shell of /sbin/nologin.

Unfortunately as you've observed, that won't work.  You have to have a
valid shell in order to use scp or sftp.

> Do I really have to permit shell access for these accounts in order
> to use scp or sftp?

No.  You can get around that, but it's not particularly pretty.  It's
also probably not completely impervious to a clever hacker.  You need
to do the following:

i) Insist that the only authentication method permitted for
accessing the production server is via ssh public/private key
pairs.  Remove the password crypt text from /etc/master.passwd
-- replace with '*' or somesuch, so password authentication is
impossible.

ii) Get your users to generate public/private key pairs.
Install the public keys into the appropriate
${HOME}/.ssh/authorized-keys files, but use the forced command
feature, by prefixing the line with 

   command="scp -i " ssh-rsa B3NzaC1y

See the sshd(8) man page for some other authorized-keys options
you may want to use.

The exact entry you write into the forced command will depend
on the setup of your system.  Note that the command that is
run is precisely as specified in the 'command="..."' text, so
unless you want your users to always copy the same files each
time, you'll need to force running a shell script which can
examine the SSH_ORIGINAL_COMMAND environment variable, verify
that it is a permissible command and if so, execute it.

Make sure the authorized-keys files and any containing
directories up to the root directory are readable but not
writable by the users.

An alternative method is to not permit your users to do the copy
themselves.  Set up an area that your users can write to on the
staging server which is a mirror of the document tree on the
production server.  Then set up a cron job to rsync from the staging
to the production server at regular intervals to copy over you users'
changes to production.

Even better: have your users check their files into CVS, and have the
production server check them out at regular intervals.  That's a
method used on a certain website that should be familiar to all
readers here...

Cheers,

Matthew

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freebsd-questions@freebsd.org

[Mauritz Sundell]

- Original Message -
From: "Abc Xyz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
No real name?

To: "Mauritz Sundell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "freebsd-questions"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: /dev/null and 2>&-


> > > i just installed 4.6-RELEASE, and notice that
> > > the '2>&-' sh (FBSD) construct seems to be broken.
> > > i am going thru all my scripts having to change
> > > it to /dev/null ...
>
> > In what way is it broken?
>
> > If the construct is generally used for hiding errormessages, one
> > should probably replace it with '2>/dev/null' anyway, since 2>&-
> > only closes filedescriptor 2 at startup of program and the first file
> > the program opens will be assigned the very same and all output
> > to stderr will come up in that file.
>
> > Example,
> > sh> tee < /dev/null 2>&- empty /nonexistent/missingfile
> > sh> cat empty
> > tee: /nonexistent/missingfile: No such file or directory
> > sh>
>
> this example above is incorrect with regards to 4.6-RELEASE.
Sorry, I forgot I had replaced my /bin/sh in 4.6-RELEASE with /bin/sh
from 5.0-CURRENT due to problems when I was building and installing
CURRENT over RELEASE. /bin/sh core-dumped under installation so I
replaced the RELEASE sh with CURRENT:s  and then the rest of installation
worked.
So, I have also have had trouble with /bin/sh from 4.6-RELEASE but in
CURRENT
it works again. I dont know how /bin/sh works in 4.6-STABLE

Are where someone out there who wants to test it? And have
better answers?

> with 4.6-RELEASE, output is as follows:
>
> Example,
> sh> tee < /dev/null 2>&- empty /nonexistent/missingfile
> tee: /nonexistent/missingfile: No such file or directory
> sh> cat empty
> sh>
>
> > sh> tee < /dev/null 2>/dev/null empty /nonexistent/missingfile
> > sh> cat empty
> > sh>
>
> > > i figure it's not realistic to assume a bug this
> > > obvious would make it to release stage, so my
> > > question is - is something else going on?
> > > or is this just due to changes in 'sh'?
> > > is it a bug?  or is it a permenent change?
>
I dont know the history of sh, but I also think it as a bug,
and from my experience with CURRENT it look as it changed
back to normal. But maybe there is an intended change, should
look in STABLE.

I have a vague memory of seeing mail about special treatment of
filedescriptors 0,1 and 2 when calling fork() or was it setuid(),
dont remember ... might be connected or?
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Yet another ssh issue

[Roger Williams]

After upgrading to 4.6-RELEASE-p1 im getting the following line when I run
lsof.  Can someone explain itshould I be concerned?  Most times when
the server is busy connecting with ssh is a real "PAIN".

Any ideas?


sshd  41268root5u  sockcan't read protocol switch from 0x



Roger


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RE: webct on freebsd?

[Wai Chan]

We are looking into the webct db version.  It is logical to store
quizes, ... in a db, however, we are not rushing into the new db
version, 'cus we do not have much faith with webct.  It is still buggy
and have a lot of problems with different version and brand of browsers
(eg: not all IE 5 or above are supported, not all Netscape 4 or above
are supported).

I agree with you that webct consists more than just Perl.  However, perl
scripts are the only core engine for webct and runs on a server.  Java
applets and Java scripts are clients side codes, will be only downloaded
and executed on the client's web browser but not on a server, will not
be affected by the version and brand of server OS.  In other words, you
may ignore java stuff and all other client side codes when choosing a
server, as long as you have the right verion of perl and Apache on
FreeBSD, I pretty sure webct will run just fine.

This is what I would do to get webct on a FreeBSD box.
1.  linux compatibility (not sure if you need it, most likely
not, but load it just in case)
2.  install webct (which installs webct's verion of perl 5.6.1
and Apache).
3.  download/compile/install Apache for FreeBSD.
4.  copy the httpd.conf (webct version) to FreeBSD Apache
httpd.conf.
5.  check/modify the httpd.conf to make sure all the path in the
conf is reflecting the FreeBSD Apache instead of webct apache.
5.  start the FreeBSD Apache (do not run the webct apache).
By now, older version of webct (the version doesn't require a license
daemon, eg: ver 3.6) should work fine.

Now, the hard part is to get the webct license daemon work (eg: webct
ver 3.7 or above).  The license daemon is a compiled binary executable
file for Solaris or Redhat, so ... hope the license binary execues on
FreeBSD.  If unsuccessful, enable_linux (linux compatibility) on FreeBSD
(linux_enable="yes" in /etc/rc.conf) to try again.  If still fail to run
the license daemon, you will need to get the source code from webct and
recompile.  Good Luck!

BTW, I think you mean linux compatibility instead of redhat emulation.

Thanks!

best wishes,
Wai Chan


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From: Tim Kellers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 3:38 PM
To: Wai Chan
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: webct on freebsd?



Thanks for the reply, Wai.

I believe we are running Campus edition of WebCT on our main production
server --from what I learned at a meeting I attended on Monday, the
Oracle DB version isn't available (to NJIT, anyway) until sometime in
September.

With the availability of that upgrade being on or just after the
beginning of the new semester and the history of WebCT "upgrades"
breaking the extant production version rather spectacularly (and
egregiously for the admin of the WebCT box), it's doubtful that anyone
is going to rush into the new version.  In fact, if I can get Campus
Edition to run at a production level, I see no reason to rush into a
newer version.

Have you ever used WebCT under Redhat emulation?  Do you (or anyone
else) know if that is feasible/preferable?  I'm fairly sure that the
current WebCT we are using is a bit more than just perl based.  I think
the "chat" functions are all java applets.

Thanks for you help and input,

Tim Kellers
CPE/NJIT

On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Wai Chan wrote:

> Hi,
>
> webct should run on FreeBSD without problem.  I could be wrong, but 
> after plaing with it for a period of time, the webct campus edition is

> simply whole brunch of perl scrips (the version of perl is more 
> important than anything else) and plain text files, and a apache web 
> server with customized httpd.conf.  There is a webct campus vista 
> edition, which uses oracle db instead of plain text files, I have no 
> knowledge about this edition.
>
> FreeBSD was officially supported by the first generation of webct. 
> However, the latest version, webct only supports Solaris and Redhat 
> (not all favors of linux, and FreeBSD is no longer listed as supported

> OS). If you are running webct on FreeBSD and if you need help from 
> webct, then ... unless you are webct's $best$ customer.  So, if you 
> are stucked with x86 boxes and need to run webct, Redhat is your safe 
> choice.
>
> We run webct and other apps with this rules I set:
>   If not FreeBSD on x86, then Solaris on Sun.
> We are running our webct on a Sun E250 box.
>
> Good Luck!
>
> Wai.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Kellers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 5:55 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: webct on freebsd?
>
>
>
> My division at work is considering splitting-off our non-credit and 
> certificate students from the University-wide WebCT server --which 
> currently hosts all Distance Learning students.
>
> Universitry Information Services has recommended we purchase a SUN box

> and install the SUN flavor of WebCT.  However, they are so backlogged 
> that it is

Re: Yet another ssh issue

[Daniel Bye]

On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 08:00:27AM +0900, Roger Williams wrote:
> After upgrading to 4.6-RELEASE-p1 im getting the following line when I run
> lsof.  Can someone explain itshould I be concerned?  Most times when
> the server is busy connecting with ssh is a real "PAIN".
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> 
> sshd  41268root5u  sockcan't read protocol switch from 0x

Did you update your version of lsof?  I just ran it again for the first
time since upgrading from 4.6-RELEASE to 4.6-RELEASE-p2, and got this
warning:

lsof: WARNING: compiled for FreeBSD release 4.6-RELEASE; this is 4.6-RELEASE-p2.

(You will probably need to run "lsof 2>&1 | less" to catch the message,
if it's there.)

After upgrading (actually, deinstalling then rebuilding), the message
goes away.  I haven't seen the message you report, though, so this 
may just be a red herring.

Gotta be worth a shot, though.

Dan

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Re: When is FreeBSD going to work properly with KVM switches?

[Michael Wells]

> > >
> > > I also have the problem that the KVM must be set to the machine being
booted
> > > in order for the mouse and keyboard to work properly. This is a know
problem
> > > and there was discussion on it. The problem seems to have appeared
with 4.2.
> > > I saw a fix in the freebsd-stable archives:
> > >
> > >Message: 4695118,
> > >FROM: John Baldwin,
> > >DATE: 11/20/2000 16:43:35
> > >SUBJECT: RE:  4.2 Showstopper? Belkin KVM switch problems with
FreeBSD 4.2
> > >
> > > Basically the proposed solution was to remove the `flags 0x1' from the
> > > atkbd0 device line in the i386/conf/file
> > >
> > > This fixed the problem I was having with the Omni Cube 4-Port. I have
> > > not checked if this problem still occurs with 4.6.
> > >
> >
> > Actually, if one searches through the archives you'll find the mouse/kvm
> > issue dates back to the 3.x days. Apparently it isn't a high priority so
> > I wouldn't hold my breath for an always working fix.
>
>
> I really really really wouldn't be so quick to assume the problem is
> FreeBSD.  In my experience, Belkin's are not very good KVMs, I won't
> use them any more, personally.  I've had problems with them not
> correctly initializing keyboard or mouse ports with Windows as well.
> Never had a problem with FreeBSD and KVM switches, personally.
>
> If you want a good KVM, stick with either Avocent (my personal
> preference - used to be Cybex and Apex), Raritan, Rose, or one of the
> companies that OEMs the Avocent switches. (ie Compaq, HP, Dell) The
> cheapo KVMs are cheap for a reason.
>
> (Then you've got "RichardH" saying Belkin's are overpriced, LOL..
> well I never tried D-link KVMs, maybe they're OK for a cheapo
> model :-)
>
>
I have a Belkin 4 port OmniView that works just fine with FreeBSD and
w2k.  I had to add a flag to my kernel to keep things study when
switching back and forth, but other than that it's been just fine.


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Re: scp and non-shell accounts.

[Wayne Pascoe]

Ken McGlothlen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I want my users to be able to transfer files to the production
> webserver using scp or sftp, but not to have shell access on the
> production webserver.
> 
> So on the production machine, each of these users has a home directory, and a
> shell of /sbin/nologin.
> 
> The problem is, this seems to trounce scp and sftp.  I get
> 
> wibble@staging:~(1)$ scp transfer.txt wibble@prod:~
> wibble@prod's password: [type password]
> 
> This account is currently not available. [from /sbin/nologin]
> wibble@staging:~(2)$ sftp prod
> Connecting to prod...
> wibble@prod's password: [type password]
> Received message too long 173237622
> wibble@staging:~(3)$ _
> 
> Do I really have to permit shell access for these accounts in order
> to use scp or sftp?

You do have to permit shell access, but you can use a nice restrictive
shell. I can't remember where I found it originally (Byron - If you're
reading this can you post the location), but there is a shell out
there called scponly.

Using this means that scp functions work ok but a user cannot actually
login to the machine. This I hope will suit your purpose?

If you can't find it on google, mail me and I'll hunt out the URL.

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Re: Telnetd

[Wayne Pascoe]

"Rafter Man" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi Subscribers
> 
> If I have a server running telnetd and sshd, how can I denie a users
> telnet access (he must have ssh access also using passwords).

For starters, I would strongly deny telnet access by default. There
are very few good reasons to use telnet in this day and age, and the
horrible insecurity of it makes it worth binning.

Having done my 'Responsible adult' preaching, I think you might be
able to do what you want using PAM. Have a look through the PAM docs
and see if that helps you.

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Re: Internet Fax and FreeBSD

[Wayne Pascoe]

Lord Raiden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 
>   I could set this up using Winfax on one of our 2k server, but
>   I'd rather do it on a Freebsd server since I have more of them
>   and I am not a big fan of Winfax anyways.  :)  What port or
>   program would I use to setup such a thing on one of our
>   systems and what, if any service would we need to signup to in
>   order to use this?  Would I be able to receive internet faxes
>   from other people who are also setup to send them, or would I
>   again need to go through an online fax service?

If you're just trying to do faxing from the desktop, or faxing over a
local network, then Hylafax may work for you. Using this your *nix and
Windows users can all fax through a single fax modem. I've not set it
up on FreeBSD but it was pretty easy to get going on GNU/Linux.

I'm not sure I get what you're saying about Internet Faxes. I use
e-mail for Internet communications ;)

> 
> -- The Raiden Knows
> 
> "Remember amateurs built the ark  -- professionals built the Titanic."
> -
> 
> Unknown
> 
> "Just when you think you have life figured out and all is going well,
> watch your step, for you are about to fall." - Ancient Proverb

Please can you fix your signature so that my mail client does not
quote it in reply's. Please see
http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/http/signatur.html for more information on
signature netiquette

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Re: Telnetd

[Rafter Man]

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From: Wayne Pascoe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > If I have a server running telnetd and sshd, how can I denie a users
> > telnet access (he must have ssh access also using passwords).
> 
> For starters, I would strongly deny telnet access by default. There
> are very few good reasons to use telnet in this day and age, and the
> horrible insecurity of it makes it worth binning.

I know :-)

> Having done my 'Responsible adult' preaching, I think you might be
> able to do what you want using PAM. Have a look through the PAM docs
> and see if that helps you.


I'm no it! Thanks :-)

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Re: Telnetd

[Rafter Man]

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> I'm no it! Thanks :-)

Ups, I'm ON it! *GG*

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Maestro-2e problems

[Michael J. Ruhl]

Howdy,

I have a Gateway 9000 laptop with (apperently) a Maestro-2E sound
card:

pcm0:  irq 5 at device 8.0 on pci0
pcm0: unable to map register space

However, I have never been able to get it to work.  Twas wondering if
anybody might have some comments on it, and the above error message.

Thanks!

Mike

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help..

[Tony Sim]

I have 3Com Megahertz 10/100 Lan Cardbus model 3CCFE575CT for my laptop.  
Recently, i've made up my mind to try using FreeBSD instead of the Windows 
98 that came with the laptop.  (all really because i got a new desktop to 
depend on ^^)  But now, i hear that cardbus is not supported.  is that mean 
that i will not have internet connection for my laptop?  I've completely 
deleted all files w/in it, so really, i have nothing in it.  I kinda wanted 
to see how much of the Windows application can be substitued to Unix, but 
without the help from internet, well, that mite be bit hard to do

Needless to say that i'm a complete newbie to Unix...  ^^  so...  is there 
any way i could use internet w/ the laptop w/ the pccard i have?

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/cdrom for normal users?

[Steve Mazerski]

Is it the "done thing" in FreeBSD for normal users to mount CD-ROMs 
in a local directory rather than /cdrom? 

As a normal user all I get is this:

  localuser > mount /cdrom 
  cd9660: /dev/acd0c: Operation not permitted

despite changing the permissions on both the CD-ROM device and /cdrom
to 660 and ensuring the local user is in the relevant groups

I can mount CD-ROMs in a directory owned by the normal user.

I ask because in Linux, /cdrom is generally useable as a mount point
by all users. It's not a problem, just wondering.

For reference: 

the relevant line in /etc/fstab:

  /dev/acd0c  /cdrom  cd9660  ro,noauto   0   0

vfs.usermount is set to 1, and yes, I have read this page:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#USER-FLOPPYMOUNT


S.Mazerski


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