Re: failing to boot from mfsroot.gz

2004-07-01 Thread Richard P. Williamson
At 17:24 30/06/2004. epilogue had this to say:
>On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 14:11:07 +0100
>"Richard P. Williamson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> I have a 4.8 system that booted from flash using a kernel.gz and
>> mfsroot.gz. The ethernet parts were not fully supported by the fxp driver
>> in 4.8, so I was testing 4.10 to see if they were with that version of
>> the OS.
>> 
>> I've replace the kernel.gz with a 4.10 version, and the mfsroot.gz
>> is built using 4.10 objects.  If I try to boot it, this is what I 
>> get:
>> 
>> ...
>> md0: Preloaded mfs_root "/mfsroot> 50331648 bytes at 0xc02b2794
>> md1: malloc disk
>> ...
>> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 in isa0
>> sio0: type 16550A, console
>> sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0
>> sio1: type 16550A
>> vga0:  at port 0x3b0-0x3bb iomem 0xb-0xb7 on
>> isa0 ad0: 30MB  [490/4/32] at ata0-master PI01
>> Mounting root from ufs:/dev/md0c
>> 
>> And then nothing.  Nada.  Zip.
>> 
>> No kernel panic message, no prompt, nothing.
>> 
>> Which leaves me in a bit of a pickle as to what to try.
>> 
>> If I use a 4.10 kernel with a 4.8 mfsroot.gz, it boots,
>> but tells me that proc is out of sync with the kernel.
>
>If i get you correctly, you're trying to run a 4.10 kernel on a 4.8
>system.  (?)  

That'd be stoopid.  No, I'm trying to run a 4.10 kernel with a 4.10
mfsroot.gz.  But nothing happens.  The kernel inflates the mfsroot.gz
into md0, configures itself, and then attempts to mount the
root filesystem on /dev/md0c .  And then that's it.  No further 
messages on the console, no panic, no nothing.

When I run a 4.8 kernel with a 4.8 system, all ok.

When I (accidently) ran the 4.10 kernel with the 4.8 mfsroot.gz,
it ran (marginally), while complaining about things like proc
size mismatch.  But it did come up.

>if i've misunderstand your intention, apologies.

no worries.  My second paragraph may have been unclear ;>

What I'm looking for is 'debug methodologies', ie what can
I do to try and trace where it is falling over.  Assume I'm
limited to printf. Is there any way to enable bizarre 
debugging support in the booting kernel, on a headless, 
embedded device...

Thanks for responding,
rip



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Re: mini itx

2004-07-01 Thread heikki soerum
Personally I'm using an EPIA CL6000 as headless fileserver at the moment
without any problems. No problems with 5.2, allthough with stable 4.8
and 4.9(haven't tried 4.10) I had some problems with the onboard LAN
cards when transfering large amounts of data. (Vr0 Watchdog timeouts) 
allthough, since I use it as an headless I can't really verify that the
videocard works.
Those nettworking problems that I had has gone away in 5.2-Current and
hopefuly they won't come back.


Heikki Soerum.


On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 07:02:48 +0200
"Kjell Midtseter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>On 30 Jun 2004 at 23:30, arden wrote:
>
>> im collecting some bits to start a mini itx project
>> http://www.mini-itx.com/projects.asp
>> i have the need for a small silent pc 
>> 
>> has anyone used these boards with bds?
>> 
>I am using the MII 6000 and M1 boards, and they work fine.
>But there are no support for the graphics chipset, so you can not run
>an X server (yet)
>Kjell
>
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[gateway 4.9] sendto: no buffer space available

2004-07-01 Thread Jacques Beigbeder
Hello,

Hardware:
PC, 128 Mo, 2 interfaces 3Com 3c905-TX
Software:
4.9, generic kernel; from the initial distribution
no special configuration

Suddenly, this PC acting as a gateway stops forwarding packets,
I was in a hurry so I just noticed that ICMP ping packets failed.
Message on the console:
ping: sendto: no buffer space available

Question 1: is it supposed to be fixed automatically within
a few minutes? This gateway is important in my network...

Question 2: is there some tuning I can do? Here is some output:
root# sysctl -a | grep space | grep net
net.local.stream.sendspace: 8192
net.local.stream.recvspace: 8192
net.local.dgram.recvspace: 4096
net.inet.tcp.sendspace: 32768
net.inet.tcp.recvspace: 57344
net.inet.udp.recvspace: 42080
net.inet.raw.recvspace: 8192

Thanks,

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Reading a DVD with a scratch

2004-07-01 Thread Cordula's Web
Hi,

I've got a DVD with a 1.2cm scratch nearly parallel to the track.
This doesn't prevent mounting, and mplayer can play all other
.vob files. The scratch happens to be in the middle of a single .vob
file, so when mplayer reaches it, it freezes and a lot of READ BIG
messages appear on the console (as expected).

Now the question: is there a way to read up to the scratch, seek
forward to skip that region, and then to continue reading? The idea
is to dd as much of the .vob file as possible up to the scratch; skip
(how much? how to find out? reading the file backwards?) then dd
the rest of the file, and cat both parts. The problem probably boils
down to: how can a process detect beginning and end of the scratch,
without freezing in read(2)?

Any ideas how to do it?

Thanks,
-cpghost.

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Re: vi / EAGAIN Problem

2004-07-01 Thread Sergey Zaharchenko
On Wed, Jun 30, 2004 at 07:24:57AM -0400,
 Gustafson, Tim probably wrote:
> Hello everyone.
> 
> I finally have the output of a ktrace of the problem where vi returns
> "Error: input: Resource temporarily unavailable" to me.  It can be
> downloaded from the following link.

Reading the kdump of your file is interesting, but at the first glance
the only peculiar thing that precedes the failing call is changing
signal handler for sig18, which is a

#define SIGTSTP 18  /* stop signal from tty */

Could this be something?

One more thing I thought of is watch(8)-ing the terminal, redirecting
all output to a file, and then `playing it back' (cat'ting onto another
terminal). If, after that, vi would produce the same results on the new
terminal, then I'd try trimming the output until it can't reproduce the
problem. This way, we could narrow down the problem a bit. 
Unfortunately, I can no longer reproduce the problem:(

CC'ing Ben, who is also interested.

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Re: Gnome installing Mozilla by default

2004-07-01 Thread Aaron Walker
Roop Nanuwa wrote:
I'll join in on the praise for Opera. It really is the best web browser
that's extremely light but still has all the "modern day" features
one would expect from a web browser and then some. I will warn you
about a couple of things, though.
1] The native FreeBSD version is not going to run Flash. I've pulled
out many, many hairs about this but have never gotten the two to
work together. If you want to view Flash, then install the linux-opera
port.
2] You'll be spoiled after using Opera for any length of time. I've been
using Opera for a long time and I simply can't tolerate any other browsers.
The feature set it provides is so expansive that other browsers will seem
utterly gutted in comparison. Ever use vi for a while and then notice that
random ':w' or ':wq' start appearing in places where they shouldn't because
you've gotten so used to the commands? Same idea here.
3] The default interface is not for everyone. Just realize that the interface
is highly configurable so don't let it turn you off if it's not to your liking.
--roop
Just curious, but which version of flash are you using with Opera?  I 
did a search of the ports tree and found quite a few flash ports and was 
confused on which one to install.

Thanks
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Re: VIA KM266

2004-07-01 Thread Warren Block
On Thu, 1 Jul 2004, Darkbackwardz co. ltd. wrote:
I have just installed FreeBSD version 4.10 along with KDE and the X-Window 
system on my x86 PC, unfortunately, when I type "startx" at the command line 
I get this error message:

(WW) SAVAGE: chipset "ProSavage DDR" in device section "VIA ProSavage8" isn't 
valid for this driver
Note the space between ProSavage and DDR.  That may be the problem.  The 
easiest way to get X to detect the correct driver is to have it write a 
sample XF86Config file for you:

XFree86 -configure
This will create an XF86Config.new file.
You don't mention which motherboard you are using, or show the contents 
of your XF86Config file, which makes it difficult to say more.  However, 
the MSI KM2M motherboard works with this in the Device section:

Section "Device"
### Available Driver options are:-
### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False",
### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz"
### [arg]: arg optional
#Option "NoAccel" # []
#Option "HWCursor"# []
#Option "SWCursor"# []
#Option "ShadowFB"# []
#Option "Rotate"  # []
#Option "UseBIOS" # []
#Option "LCDClock"# 
#Option "ShadowStatus"# []
#Option "CrtOnly" # []
#Option "TvOn"# []
#Option "PAL" # []
#Option "ForceInit"   # []
Option  "NoUseBIOS"   # WB: needed!
Identifier  "Card0"
Driver  "savage"
VendorName  "S3 Inc."
BoardName   "[ProSavageDDR]"
BusID   "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection
-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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Re: VIA KM266

2004-07-01 Thread Paul Murphy
On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 06:22:00 -0400
"Darkbackwardz co. ltd." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have just installed FreeBSD version 4.10 along with KDE and the 
> X-Window system on my x86 PC, unfortunately, when I type "startx" at
> the command line I get this error message:
> 
> "XFree86 Version 4.3.0
> Release Date: 27 February 2003
> X Protocol version II Revision 0 Release 6.6
> Build Operating System: FreeBSD 4.10 i386 [ELF]
> Build Date: 29 April 2004
> 
> Before reporting problems check http://www.XFree86.Org to make sure
> you have the latest version
> 
> Module loader present
> Markers: (--)probed, (**) from config file, (= =) default setting, (+
> +) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning,
> (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
> 
> 
> (= =) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Wed June 30 23:43:12
> 2004(= =) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config"
> 
> (WW) SAVAGE: chipset "ProSavage DDR" in device section "VIA
> ProSavage8" isn't valid for this driver
> 
> (EE) No devices detected
> 
> Fatal server error:
> no screens found
> 
> 
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> X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown)
> X auth: creating new authority file /root/.Xauthority
> xauth: (argv) :1: bad display name ":0" in remove command
> xauth: (argv) :1: bad display name ":0" in remove command
> #"
> 
> 
> 
> I'm quite sure that I've chosen the wrong video driver during setup,
> my computer runs on a VIA KM266 chipset with an integrated S3
> ProSavage8 DDR video card (Seen here: 
> http://www.via.com.tw/en/ProSavage%20Chipsets/km266.jsp )
>  Which BSD driver would best suit this card? So far I've tried
>  selecting 
> the ProSavageK category and the driver labled "savage", as well as the
> "generic-vga" category and "vga" driver in the XFree86 setup.
>If my card isn't supported by BSD, which one of the drivers on 
> http://www.viaarena.com/?PageID=296 would I use and how would I
> install it from a floppy disc? I've already installed the
> compatibility packages for Linux binaries, but I don't know which
> version would be best accepted.
> 
> 
> Any help would be appreciated!
>-Melinda Coates
> 
> 
> 
> 

 I have a similar setup and this is the Device section I use:

Section "Device"
Option  "NoUseBIOS"
Identifier  "ProSavageDDR"
Driver  "savage"
VendorName  "S3 Inc."
BoardName   "[ProSavageDDR K4M266]"
BusID   "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection
 


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Re: Reading regular DVD's

2004-07-01 Thread SmartServ Hosting
dmesg | grep acd
acd0: DVDR  at ata1-master UDMA33

FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT

When I insert a DVD movie /dev/acd0c doesn't register therefore I cannot use mplayer 
or anything to view the DVD.

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FTP server will not initiate DATA connection back to client

2004-07-01 Thread freebsd

I am running FreeBSD 4.9 RELEASE running the standard ftpd.  I can act as an
ftp client from the console OK, however when I try to ftp from a client PC
to the server running ftpd (which is running ipfw) the ftp server receives
the packet sent to port 21 and replies however it will not initiate a DATA
connection back to the client from port 20.  I had my client configured to
use ACTIVE FTP.  I have also tried PASSIVE without any difference.  I do not
have a firewall on the client and can successfully FTP to another FreeBSD
box.  
None of the rules on my firewall that deny packets coming back from the ftp
servers ipfw firewall are being hit. Does anyone have any ideas?
Regards, J.S
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Re: Disk about to fail

2004-07-01 Thread Tuc
> 
> Best? Get your data off the disk *yesterday*, in descending priority
> order, and use the platters for wind chimes.
> 
I'm doing rsyncs every few hours.

The problem is that once it has a critical enough issue, I'll not
be able to mount the volume (I'm not 100% sure its /var, I was hoping that
by some way via the LBA I could track back to what filesystem and file it
is. Sans this, when it does fail, how can I "reformat" it so that it does
some sort of block checking and doesn't use bad spots? I can't find anything
in newfs that will tell it to do this.

Thanks, Tuc/TTSG Internet Services, Inc.
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RE: RDP

2004-07-01 Thread Michael Clark
This isn't a *BSD solution, but its works extremely well for me.
http:\\thinstation.sourceforge.net



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Subject: RDP


I was wondering if there is a way to set FreeBSD up to replace a Windows  
2000 server. The company I work for uses terminal services client to  
connect
to the WIN2K server. When users connect they can log in and create  
documents, spreadsheets, etc. Currently I use rdesktop on FreeBSD at work  
to
connect to the WIN2K. It would be nice to replace the Windows machine with  
a *BSD.

Thanks

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Re: FTP server will not initiate DATA connection back to client

2004-07-01 Thread User LAFFER1
Does it work with ipfw disabled?  If so, then it seems resonable that ipfw 
is causing the problem.  One of the ftp modes (pasv or port) requires high 
level ports to be accessible on the server.  I just started drinking 
coffee this moring, so i can't remember which one yet. :)

If i remember right, the default ftpd is influenced by hosts.allow and 
hosts.deny too.

On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am running FreeBSD 4.9 RELEASE running the standard ftpd.  I can act as an
ftp client from the console OK, however when I try to ftp from a client PC
to the server running ftpd (which is running ipfw) the ftp server receives
the packet sent to port 21 and replies however it will not initiate a DATA
connection back to the client from port 20.  I had my client configured to
use ACTIVE FTP.  I have also tried PASSIVE without any difference.  I do not
have a firewall on the client and can successfully FTP to another FreeBSD
box.
None of the rules on my firewall that deny packets coming back from the ftp
servers ipfw firewall are being hit. Does anyone have any ideas?
Regards, J.S
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Re: FTP server will not initiate DATA connection back to client

2004-07-01 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Thursday 01 July 2004 07:45 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I am running FreeBSD 4.9 RELEASE running the standard ftpd.  I can
> act as an ftp client from the console OK, however when I try to ftp
> from a client PC to the server running ftpd (which is running ipfw)
> the ftp server receives the packet sent to port 21 and replies
> however it will not initiate a DATA connection back to the client
> from port 20.  I had my client configured to use ACTIVE FTP.  I have
> also tried PASSIVE without any difference.  I do not have a firewall
> on the client and can successfully FTP to another FreeBSD box.
> None of the rules on my firewall that deny packets coming back from
> the ftp servers ipfw firewall are being hit. Does anyone have any
> ideas? Regards, J.S

In /etc/services, I see the following lines related to ftp:

ftp-data   20/tcp#File Transfer [Default Data]
ftp-data   20/udp#File Transfer [Default Data]
ftp  21/tcp#File Transfer [Control]
ftp  21/udp#File Transfer [Control]

Are all of these ports open in the firewall?  Sending and receiving?  (I 
don't know if all of the ports are needed or not.)

Best of luck,

Andrew Gould
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Re: FTP server will not initiate DATA connection back to client

2004-07-01 Thread Bill Moran
User LAFFER1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Does it work with ipfw disabled?  If so, then it seems resonable that ipfw 
> is causing the problem.  One of the ftp modes (pasv or port) requires high 
> level ports to be accessible on the server.  I just started drinking 
> coffee this moring, so i can't remember which one yet. :)

Drink faster man! ;)

Do these tests:
1) FTP active mode with firewall enabled
2) FTP active mode with firewall at allow all
3) FTP passive mode with firewall enabled

If 2 & 3 succeed and 1 doesn't ... then it's your firewall.  Other
combinations indicate other problems which may be more complex.

FTP active mode requires that the server can make a connection _back_ to
the client.  This fails over NAT boundries and many different firewall
configs.  Passive mode causes the client to make a _second_ connection to
the server on a high, random port.  This traverses NAT pretty well, but
requires proper rules in the server's packet filter to allow the connections
to succeed.  I believe the man page on ftpd has more detail.  The "random,
high" ports that can be used is configurable.  I believe these two sysctls
control it:
net.inet.ip.portrange.hifirst: 49152
net.inet.ip.portrange.hilast: 65535

> If i remember right, the default ftpd is influenced by hosts.allow and 
> hosts.deny too.
> 
> On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> >
> > I am running FreeBSD 4.9 RELEASE running the standard ftpd.  I can act as an
> > ftp client from the console OK, however when I try to ftp from a client PC
> > to the server running ftpd (which is running ipfw) the ftp server receives
> > the packet sent to port 21 and replies however it will not initiate a DATA
> > connection back to the client from port 20.  I had my client configured to
> > use ACTIVE FTP.  I have also tried PASSIVE without any difference.  I do not
> > have a firewall on the client and can successfully FTP to another FreeBSD
> > box.
> > None of the rules on my firewall that deny packets coming back from the ftp
> > servers ipfw firewall are being hit. Does anyone have any ideas?
> > Regards, J.S
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Re: RDP

2004-07-01 Thread Jerry McAllister
Hi,

> I was wondering if there is a way to set FreeBSD up to replace a Windows  
> 2000 server. The company I work for uses terminal services client to  
> connect
> to the WIN2K server. When users connect they can log in and create  
> documents, spreadsheets, etc. Currently I use rdesktop on FreeBSD at work  
> to
> connect to the WIN2K. It would be nice to replace the Windows machine with  
> a *BSD.

Take a look at samba   /usr/ports/net/samba 
and see if it helps you.

jerry

> 
> Thanks
> 
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How to fix??? boot bug??

2004-07-01 Thread Алесей Зивенко
Hi all.
I have one question. 
Just reinstalled FreeBSD 4.9 on my new hardware. I had 845 - 1700, now 
I have 865 - P4 2600, same hard.
But now I cannot load FreeBSD - ??? Why???
It writes - BTX halted - . many registers...

PS
I have just installed 4.6 on this machine - all is beautiful, but I 
have not my hardware support 
Maby it's a hardware problem??
Can you help me?? sorry for my english
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Booting with Grub

2004-07-01 Thread Andrew Walrond
I have installed 5.2.1 into a partition and I want to use my existing 
bootloader, grub.

Can anyone tell me what the required grub configuartion line would look like, 
or point me to an FAQ?

Andrew Walrond
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Re: Booting with Grub

2004-07-01 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Jul 01), Andrew Walrond said:
> I have installed 5.2.1 into a partition and I want to use my existing
> bootloader, grub.
> 
> Can anyone tell me what the required grub configuartion line would
> look like, or point me to an FAQ?

All I do with grub is chainload the FreeBSD partition's bootblock.

root(hd0,1)
chainloader +1

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FreeBSD 4.0 with ipnat/ipfw2 1:1 NAT

2004-07-01 Thread Matt Juszczak
Hello all,
Was just wondering everyone's opinion on this subject
Got a FreeBSD box ... 2.4 ghz Xeon with 1 gig RAM and two gb nic cards.  
This box's job is to do a 1:1 NAT for about 2000 workstations.

In everyone's opinion, is IPNAT and IPFW2 a good solution for this?  
Also, will that box handle that (I'm pretty sure it will), and if so, 
any security recommendations? (other than custom kernel, local firewall, 
and securelevel 2).

Thanks!
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mounting

2004-07-01 Thread Brian Henning
Greetings:

Currently i have 2 drives ad1 (10 gig) and ad2 (10gig) on my bsd system that I would 
like to use for file storage. I want to create a mounting point, /files_area, that 
could treat the two drives as one.  So when I add files to /files_area it treats it 
like one big 20 gig drive.  is this possible? can someone point me to some docs on 
howto do it?

thanks,

Brian
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Gigabit Adaptors

2004-07-01 Thread Michael Clark
After my recent disagreements with the em0 Intel MT adaptor, I have decided
to order something else for my FreeBSD use. 
Anyone have any good suggestions for cards that they prefer to use in 5.x?


Thank you everyone for the suggestions with the em0 card.


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Re: Booting with Grub

2004-07-01 Thread Reed L. O'Brien
in grub.conf
# if it is default
default 0
# how long to wait usually with default
timeout 5
#title
title FreeBSD
#root location first on my disk here
root (hd0,0,e)
#kernel
kernel /boot/loader
# or if grub already exists and is working for WXP and Linux...
# I last did it like so
# FSBD 4.5 with (I think)
title FBSD 4.5
rootnoverify (hd0,1) # map w/o linux checks
makeactive # set
chainloader +1 #hand off
luck,
reed
Andrew Walrond wrote:
I have installed 5.2.1 into a partition and I want to use my existing 
bootloader, grub.

Can anyone tell me what the required grub configuartion line would look like, 
or point me to an FAQ?

Andrew Walrond
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Re: mounting

2004-07-01 Thread Jerry McAllister
> 
> Greetings:
> 
> Currently i have 2 drives ad1 (10 gig) and ad2 (10gig) on my bsd system that I would 
> like to use for file storage. I want to create a mounting point, /files_area, that 
> could treat the two drives as one.  So when I add files to /files_area it treats it 
> like one big 20 gig drive.  is this possible? can someone point me to some docs on 
> howto do it?

Start by studying up on vinum(8).The FreeBSD handbook and man pages
and then some searches should tell you what you need to know.

Also, please break your message lines at abou 70 characters length.
It makes it easier for many of us to read and to make responses.

jerry

> 
> thanks,
> 
> Brian
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Re: Booting with Grub

2004-07-01 Thread Bill Schoolcraft
At Thu, 1 Jul 2004 it looks like Andrew Walrond composed:

> I have installed 5.2.1 into a partition and I want to use my existing
> bootloader, grub.
>
> Can anyone tell me what the required grub configuartion line would look like,
> or point me to an FAQ?
>
> Andrew Walrond
> ___

Here is one that worked for me with FreeBSD on the 4th primary partition.
It was a while ago when I had RedHat-7.2 as the controller of GRUB.


# Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this
# file
# NOTICE:  You have a /boot partition.  This means that
#  all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg.
#  root (hd0,0)
#  kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/hda3
#  initrd /initrd-version.img
#boot=/dev/hda
default=0
timeout=10
splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
title Red Hat Linux (2.4.7-10)
root (hd0,0)
kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.7-10 ro root=/dev/hda3
initrd /initrd-2.4.7-10.img

title FreeBSD-4.2
root (hd0,4,a)
kernel /boot/loader
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Re: Booting with Grub (correction)

2004-07-01 Thread Reed L. O'Brien
I shouldlspecify that  AFAIK
the first listing is the 'old' way which still works and with multiple *BSD
the second is the 'new' way that works with FBSD and maybe OBSD IIRC.
cheersm
reed
Reed L. O'Brien wrote:
in grub.conf
# if it is default
default 0
# how long to wait usually with default
timeout 5
#title
title FreeBSD
#root location first on my disk here
root (hd0,0,e)
#kernel
kernel /boot/loader
# or if grub already exists and is working for WXP and Linux...
# I last did it like so
# FSBD 4.5 with (I think)
title FBSD 4.5
rootnoverify (hd0,1) # map w/o linux checks
makeactive # set
chainloader +1 #hand off
luck,
reed
Andrew Walrond wrote:
I have installed 5.2.1 into a partition and I want to use my existing 
bootloader, grub.

Can anyone tell me what the required grub configuartion line would 
look like, or point me to an FAQ?

Andrew Walrond
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RE: RDP

2004-07-01 Thread Chad Albert
This is for Linux, but it is a project to replace Windows Terminal
Services, I have not used it, but I have seen it around.  It uses X11 so
it will be less friendly in low bandwidth environments.
http://www.ltsp.org 



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Subject: RDP

I was wondering if there is a way to set FreeBSD up to replace a Windows
2000 server. The company I work for uses terminal services client to
connect to the WIN2K server. When users connect they can log in and
create documents, spreadsheets, etc. Currently I use rdesktop on FreeBSD
at work to connect to the WIN2K. It would be nice to replace the Windows
machine with a *BSD.

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Re: mounting

2004-07-01 Thread Henrik W Lund
Brian Henning wrote:
Greetings:
Currently i have 2 drives ad1 (10 gig) and ad2 (10gig) on my bsd system that I would 
like to use for file storage. I want to create a mounting point, /files_area, that 
could treat the two drives as one.  So when I add files to /files_area it treats it 
like one big 20 gig drive.  is this possible? can someone point me to some docs on 
howto do it?
thanks,
Brian
 

Greetings!!
Check out this:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/vinum-vinum.html
I'm pretty sure this will work for you.
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mod_mono

2004-07-01 Thread Osmany Guirola Cruz
I have installed 4.10 release and mono 0.30.1 mod_mono 10 xsp 0.9
when i try to view http://mysite/demos  
nothing happens the browser keep loading the page forever
when i do a top i see that mono is using 97.80% of CPU 
with the xsp server the problem is the same
what should i do
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Re: Booting with Grub

2004-07-01 Thread Andrew Walrond
Thanks all

Andrew
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rdist problem

2004-07-01 Thread peterp
Hi,

I'm trying to rdist some files from a FreeBSD 4.9 machine to a new 5.2.1 p9 server. On 
the 5.2.1 server I enabled rsh, added the 4.9 server to root's .rhosts file, and kept 
getting a login denied message. I added the following to the /etc/pam.d/rsh file on 
the 5.2.1 box:

authrequiredpam_nologin.so  no_warn
account requiredpam_unix.so

I can now rsh from the 4.9 box to the 5.2.1 box, but rdist shows the following:

#rdist
updating host wfv1
rdist: connection failed: version numbers don't match
rdist: got unexpected input:rdist: rrdist: drdist: irdist: srdist: trdist: :rdist:  
rdist: Crdist: ordist: mrdist: mrdist: ardist: nrdist: drdist:  rdist: nrdist: ordist: 
trdist:  rdist: frdist: ordist: urdist: nrdist: drdist: .rdist: 
updating host wfv1
rdist: connection failed: version numbers don't match
rdist: got unexpected input:rdist: rrdist: drdist: irdist: srdist: trdist: :rdist:  
rdist: Crdist: ordist: mrdist: mrdist: ardist: nrdist: drdist:  rdist: nrdist: ordist: 
trdist:  rdist: frdist: ordist: urdist: nrdist: drdist: .rdist: 
updating host wfv1
rdist: connection failed: version numbers don't match
rdist: got unexpected input:rdist: rrdist: drdist: irdist: srdist: trdist: :rdist:  
rdist: Crdist: ordist: mrdist: mrdist: ardist: nrdist: drdist:  rdist: nrdist: ordist: 
trdist:  rdist: frdist: ordist: urdist: nrdist: drdist: .rdist: 

Running rdist -D shows:

updating host wfv1
port = 514, luser = root, ruser = root
buf = rdist -Server
local user = root remote user = root
Remote command = 'rdist -Server'
I am root, therefore direct rcmd
rdist: connection failed: version numbers don't match
rdist: got unexpected input:rdist: rrdist: drdist: irdist: srdist: trdist: :rdist:  
rdist: Crdist: ordist: mrdist: mrdist: ardist: nrdist: drdist:  rdist: nrdist: ordist: 
trdist:  rdist: frdist: ordist: urdist: nrdist: drdist: .rdist: 
closeconn()
doarrow(0x805b690, wfv1, 0x805b650)
makeconn(wfv1)

I've spent all morning looking at this and have run out of ideas. As part of the same 
rdist file, i'm update 3 other 4.10 server and they work fine.  Does anyone have any 
sugestions? Yes, I know rdist is a little out of date, i've got a bunch of legacy 
stuff and scripts to convert before I can migrate off of rdist.

Thanks

Peter Parker

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Re: Gnome installing Mozilla by default

2004-07-01 Thread epilogue
On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 07:04:47 -0400
Aaron Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Roop Nanuwa wrote:
> 
> > I'll join in on the praise for Opera. It really is the best web browser
> > that's extremely light but still has all the "modern day" features
> > one would expect from a web browser and then some. I will warn you
> > about a couple of things, though.
> > 
> > 1] The native FreeBSD version is not going to run Flash. I've pulled
> > out many, many hairs about this but have never gotten the two to
> > work together. If you want to view Flash, then install the linux-opera
> > port.
> > 2] You'll be spoiled after using Opera for any length of time. I've
> > been using Opera for a long time and I simply can't tolerate any other
> > browsers. The feature set it provides is so expansive that other
> > browsers will seem utterly gutted in comparison. Ever use vi for a
> > while and then notice that random ':w' or ':wq' start appearing in
> > places where they shouldn't because you've gotten so used to the
> > commands? Same idea here. 3] The default interface is not for everyone.
> > Just realize that the interface is highly configurable so don't let it
> > turn you off if it's not to your liking.
> > 
> > --roop
> 
> Just curious, but which version of flash are you using with Opera?  I 
> did a search of the ports tree and found quite a few flash ports and was 
> confused on which one to install.
> 

um, this one...

~> pkg_info | grep -i flash

linux-flashplugin-7.0r25 The official Macromedia Flash Player for Linux
Mozilla and

hth,
epi


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problem when installing php-4.3.7 with Image Magic

2004-07-01 Thread freeman
Hello ALL,

I'm have a problem when install php-4.3.7 with Image Magic

#uname -a
FreeBSD unix.mitridat.com.ua 4.9-STABLE FreeBSD 4.9-STABLE #0: Mon Dec  8 15:28:01 EET 
2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC

Update ports.

I'm build php-4.3.7 from ports with good result.

But me need compiled with image magic.

Step by instruction:

 1. phpize, aclocle (in ext\imagick)

 2. buildconf --force

 3. './configure' '--enable-versioning' '--enable-memory-limit'
 '--with-layout=GNU' '--with-zlib-dir=/usr' '--disable-all'
 '--with-regex=php' '--with-pear' '--enable-bcmath' '--with-bz2=/usr'
 '--enable-calendar' '--with-crack=/usr/local' '--enable-ctype'
 '--with-curl=/usr/local' '--enable-dba' '--with-dom=/usr/local'
 '--with-dom-xslt=/usr/local' '--with-dom-exslt=/usr/local'
 '--enable-exif' '--enable-ftp' '--with-gd' '--enable-gd-native-ttf'
 '--with-freetype-dir=/usr/local' '--with-t1lib=/usr/local'
 '--with-jpeg-dir=/usr/local' '--with-png-dir=/usr/local'
 '--with-xpm-dir=/usr/X11R6' '--with-gettext=/usr/local'
 '--with-hyperwave' '--with-iconv-dir=/usr/local'
 '--with-iconv=/usr/local' '--with-inifile' '--enable-mbstring'
 '--with-mcal=/usr/local' '--with-mcve=/usr/local'
 '--with-mcrypt=/usr/local' '--with-mhash=/usr/local'
 '--with-mime-magic=/usr/share/misc/magic.mime'
 '--with-ming=/usr/local' '--with-mnogosearch=/usr/local'
 '--with-mssql=/usr/local' '--with-ldap=/usr/local'
 '--with-openssl-dir=/usr/local' '--with-openssl=/usr/local'
 '--enable-overload' '--with-pcre-regex=yes' '--enable-posix'
 '--with-pgsql=/usr/local' '--enable-session' '--enable-sockets'
 '--enable-tokenizer' '--with-unixODBC=/usr/local'
 '--with-expat-dir=/usr/local' '--enable-xml' '--with-xmlrpc'
 '--enable-xslt' '--with-xslt-sablot=/usr/local'
 '--with-zip=/usr/local' '--with-zlib=yes'
 '--with-apxs=/usr/local/sbin/apxs' '--with-imap=/usr/local'
 '--with-imap-ssl=/usr/local' '--with-ncurses=/usr'
 '--with-snmp=/usr/local' '--enable-ucd-snmp-hack'
 '--x-libraries=/usr/X11R6/lib' '--x-includes=/usr/X11R6/include'
 '--prefix=/usr/local' 'i386-portbld-freebsd4.9' '--with-imagick'

4. make

libtool: link: cannot find the library `'
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/lang/php4/work/php-4.3.7.  

_
It's all ... :-(
But before outputs:


/usr/local/bin/bash /usr/ports/lang/php4/work/php-4.3.7/libtool
--silent --preserve-dup-deps --mode=link gcc -export-dynamic -g -O2
-L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib  -R /usr/local/lib -R /usr/X11R6/lib
ext/ctype/ctype.lo ext/imagick/imagick.lo ext/mysql/php_mysql.lo
ext/mysql/libmysql/libmysql.lo ext/mysql/libmysql/errmsg.lo
ext/mysql/libmysql/net.lo ext/mysql/libmysql/violite.lo
ext/mysql/libmysql/password.lo ext/mysql/libmysql/my_init.lo
ext/mysql/libmysql/my_lib.lo ext/mysql/libmysql/my_static.lo
ext/mysql/libmysql/my_malloc.lo ext/mysql/libmysql/my_realloc.lo
ext/mysql/libmysql/my_create.lo ext/mysql/libmysql/my_delete.lo
ext/mysql/libmysql/my_tempnam.lo ext/mysql/libmysql/my_open.lo
ext/mysql/libmysql/mf_casecnv.lo ext/mysql/libmysql/my_read.lo
ext/mysql/libmysql/my_write.lo ext/mysql/libmysql/errors.lo
ext/mysql/libmysql/my_error.lo ext/mysql/libmysql/my_getwd.lo
ext/mysql/libmysql/my_div.lo ext/mysql/libmysql/mf_pack.lo
ext/mysql/libmysql/my_messnc.lo ext/mysql/libmysql/mf_dirname.lo
ext/mysql/libmysql/mf_fn_ext.lo ext/mysql/libmysql/mf_wcomp.lo
ext/mysql/libmysql/typelib.lo ext/mysql/libmysql/safemalloc.lo
ext/mysql/libmysql/my_alloc.lo ext/mysql/libmysql/mf_format.lo
ext/mysql/libmysql/mf_path.lo ext/mysql/libmysql/mf_unixpath.lo
ext/mysql/libmysql/my_fopen.lo ext/mysql/libmysql/mf_loadpath.lo
ext/mysql/libmysql/my_pthread.lo ext/mysql/libmysql/my_thr_init.lo
ext/mysql/libmysql/thr_mutex.lo ext/mysql/libmysql/mulalloc.lo
ext/mysql/libmysql/string.lo ext/mysql/libmysql/default.lo
ext/mysql/libmysql/my_compress.lo ext/mysql/libmysql/array.lo
ext/mysql/libmysql/my_once.lo ext/mysql/libmysql/list.lo
ext/mysql/libmysql/my_net.lo ext/mysql/libmysql/dbug.lo
ext/mysql/libmysql/strmov.lo ext/mysql/libmysql/strxmov.lo
ext/mysql/libmysql/strnmov.lo ext/mysql/libmysql/strmake.lo
ext/mysql/libmysql/strend.lo ext/mysql/libmysql/strfill.lo
ext/mysql/libmysql/is_prefix.lo ext/mysql/libmysql/int2str.lo
ext/mysql/libmysql/str2int.lo ext/mysql/libmysql/strinstr.lo
ext/mysql/libmysql/strcont.lo ext/mysql/libmysql/strcend.lo
ext/mysql/libmysql/bchange.lo ext/mysql/libmysql/bmove.lo
ext/mysql/libmysql/bmove_upp.lo ext/mysql/libmysql/longlong2str.lo
ext/mysql/libmysql/strtoull.lo ext/mysql/libmysql/strtoll.lo
ext/mysql/libmysql/charset.lo ext/mysql/libmysql/ctype.lo
ext/overload/overload.lo ext/pcre/pcrelib/maketables.lo
ext/pcre/pcrelib/get.lo ext/pcre/pcrelib/study.lo
ext/pcre/pcrelib/pcre.lo ext/pcre/php_pcre.lo ext/posix/posix.lo
ext/session/session.lo ext/session/mod_files.lo ext/session/mod_mm.lo
ext/session/mod_user.lo regex/regcomp.lo regex/regexec.lo
regex/regerror.lo regex/regfree.lo ext/standard/array.lo
ext/standard/base64.lo ext/standard/basic_functions.lo
ext/standard/browscap.lo ex

Re: Gnome installing Mozilla by default

2004-07-01 Thread Dan Finn
On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 12:03:37 -0400, epilogue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 07:04:47 -0400
> Aaron Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Roop Nanuwa wrote:
> >
> > > I'll join in on the praise for Opera. It really is the best web browser
> > > that's extremely light but still has all the "modern day" features
> > > one would expect from a web browser and then some. I will warn you
> > > about a couple of things, though.
> > >
> > > 1] The native FreeBSD version is not going to run Flash. I've pulled
> > > out many, many hairs about this but have never gotten the two to
> > > work together. If you want to view Flash, then install the linux-opera
> > > port.
> > > 2] You'll be spoiled after using Opera for any length of time. I've
> > > been using Opera for a long time and I simply can't tolerate any other
> > > browsers. The feature set it provides is so expansive that other
> > > browsers will seem utterly gutted in comparison. Ever use vi for a
> > > while and then notice that random ':w' or ':wq' start appearing in
> > > places where they shouldn't because you've gotten so used to the
> > > commands? Same idea here. 3] The default interface is not for everyone.
> > > Just realize that the interface is highly configurable so don't let it
> > > turn you off if it's not to your liking.
> > >
> > > --roop
> >
> > Just curious, but which version of flash are you using with Opera?  I
> > did a search of the ports tree and found quite a few flash ports and was
> > confused on which one to install.
> >
> 
> um, this one...
> 
> ~> pkg_info | grep -i flash
> 
> linux-flashplugin-7.0r25 The official Macromedia Flash Player for Linux
> Mozilla and
> 
> hth,
> epi
> 

all this talk of opera got me interested so I thought I would go ahead
and install it.

a "make install" of /usr/ports/www/linux-opera seemed to work fine.  I
get this when I try and run it:

[ dfinn @ stewie : ~] : linux-opera 
opera: Could not initialize spell checker interface. File not found or
could not be opened (-7)
Segmentation fault (core dumped)
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Re: RDP

2004-07-01 Thread Peter Risdon
Chad Albert wrote:
This is for Linux, but it is a project to replace Windows Terminal
Services, 
[snip]
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Perry Riggle
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 12:47 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RDP
I was wondering if there is a way to set FreeBSD up to replace a Windows
2000 server. The company I work for uses terminal services client to
connect to the WIN2K server. When users connect they can log in and
create documents, spreadsheets, etc. Currently I use rdesktop on FreeBSD
at work to connect to the WIN2K. It would be nice to replace the Windows
machine with a *BSD.
I read the OP as an interest in replacing the Windows 2000 server, not 
anything client-side. Assuming that's right...

If you replace this W2K box with a FreeBSD server, you can provide 
replacements for pretty much everything the Windows box can do (*full* 
Exchange functionality being a possible exception), and add some new 
stuff. You can certainly give users the ability to bring up a remote 
desktop on the server and do work, including creating (word processing) 
documents and spreadsheets. VNC is perhaps the best option for Windows 
clients, you could carry on using rdesktop.

In fact, while Windows was designed as a single user system, and 
terminal services is a sort of bolt-on afterthought, FreeBSD is a 
multi-user environment from the ground up.

But they'll be using a FreeBSD desktop. You can provide a nice window 
manager and a full office suite. It won't be the Windows GUI and it 
won't be MS Office. There may be retraining issues and also probs with 
backwards compatibility with previously created documents - depends how 
many Office features the users are taking advantage of. Simple documents 
are fine. Complicated, Visual Basic-ridden stuff won't work well or at all.

Having said that, it would be a step into a brighter future to make this 
replacement :-)

Peter.
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Serial console stopping startup

2004-07-01 Thread Will McCutcheon
I've been having some trouble with a new server I just installed FreeBSD onto for the 
first time.  I stick "-h" into /boot.config as I've done on other machines so as to 
get it to start up with an accessable serial console.  However, while I get the 
following messages:

/boot.config: -h

BTX loader 1.00 BTX version is 1.01

That comes out the screen, and nothing more.  Nothing ever comes out the serial 
console.  Furthermore, the system doesn't seem to boot up.  There isn't any heavy disk 
activity after this and it never binds to its IP address.  I've tinkered some with the 
serial port settings in the BIOS, suspecting it to be a BIOS issue, but wasn't able to 
figure anything out.  I was able to use the serial ports for the same purpose under 
Red Hat 8 before I wiped it and stuck FreeBSD on there.

Any ideas?  Clues?

Thanks so much!

W
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Cannot make distribution on 5.2.1-p9

2004-07-01 Thread Timothy Redaelli
# make distribution DESTDIR=/usr/local/livefs
[cut]
cd /usr/src/etc/pam.d; make install
install -C -o root  -g wheel -m 444  README 
/usr/local/livefs/etc/pam.d/README
install -C -o root -g wheel  -m 644 ftpd gdm imap kde login other passwd
pop3 rexecd rsh sshd su system telnetd xdm /usr/local/livefs/etc/pam.d
/usr/local/livefs/etc/pam.d/ftp -> /usr/local/livefs/etc/pam.d/ftpd
cd /usr/src/etc; install -C -o root -g wheel -m 644  
/usr/local/livefs/etc/ssl
line 179
usage: install [-bCcpSsv] [-B suffix] [-f flags] [-g group] [-m mode]
   [-o owner] file1 file2
   install [-bCcpSsv] [-B suffix] [-f flags] [-g group] [-m mode]
   [-o owner] file1 ... fileN directory
   install -d [-v] [-g group] [-m mode] [-o owner] directory ...
*** Error code 64

Stop in /usr/src/etc.

Is it only a my problem or is it a src problem?

Cheers

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Linux-Opera problem

2004-07-01 Thread Bruce Hunter
When I try and run linux-opera, i get this error.

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ELF binary type "0" not known.
ELF binary type "0" not known.
/usr/X11R6/share/linux-opera/bin/opera: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected

what does that mean? What should I do?

Bruce

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Re: rdist problem

2004-07-01 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sun, Jul 02, 2000 at 01:01:00PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The 20th century called, they want their year back :-)

> Hi,
> 

> I'm trying to rdist some files from a FreeBSD 4.9 machine to a new
> 5.2.1 p9 server. On the 5.2.1 server I enabled rsh, added the 4.9
> server to root's .rhosts file, and kept getting a login denied
> message. I added the following to the /etc/pam.d/rsh file on the
> 5.2.1 box:

What version of rdist are you running?  Is it the same version on both
systems?

Kris

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Re: Linux-Opera problem

2004-07-01 Thread Mike Hogsett


> When I try and run linux-opera, i get this error.
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] rehash
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> ELF binary type "0" not known.
> ELF binary type "0" not known.
> /usr/X11R6/share/linux-opera/bin/opera: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
> 
> what does that mean? What should I do?

Try doing (as root of course)

; kldload linux

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pkg_deinstall problem

2004-07-01 Thread Bruce Hunter
hello,

I ran the 
#pkg_deinstall -vrR 

then I reboot and root no longer had a password, and my only user
'flipnode' was no longer a user.
Also, it seemed to delete the main .cshrc file.
Also, it seemed to delete or overwrite my /etc/fstab file.

Basically, I was trying to remove xfce-4 and everything for it, but
leave stuff/libs for other packages needing them. Only if other packages
were needing them.

What did I do wrong?

Bruce

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Re: Linux-Opera problem

2004-07-01 Thread Bruce Hunter
On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 15:34, Mike Hogsett wrote:
> > When I try and run linux-opera, i get this error.
> > 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] rehash
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> > ELF binary type "0" not known.
> > ELF binary type "0" not known.
> > /usr/X11R6/share/linux-opera/bin/opera: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
> > 
> > what does that mean? What should I do?
> 
> Try doing (as root of course)
> 
> ; kldload linux
> 
I tried what you asked:
This is what happened..

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solid# kldload linux
solid# linux-opera
Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the
authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based
authentication failed
cannot open file "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XftConfig"
Segmentation fault (core dumped)

Bruce

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BOINC SETI Version for FreeBSD?

2004-07-01 Thread Cordula's Web
Hi,

any chance to see a port of the BOINC version of setiathome
in the future? Source code to both boinc and seti boinc is
available, but no port yet... Could a ports guru please have
a look?

Thanks.

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portupgrade fails on every port, undefined method 'each' for nil:NilClass

2004-07-01 Thread Lee Dilkie
Well, I'm at a bit of a loss here.

running 4.10, did a cvsup this morning, then portsdb -uU to get an up to date index.

Bunch of ports needed updating, including portupgrade so I upgraded portupgrade first. 
That seemed to work fine (it reports version 1.8.1).

Now, every port I try to upgrade fails when uninstalling the old version. I've tried 
to upgrade clamav, isc-dhcp3-server and a couple of others.

All report "undefined method 'each' for nil:NilClass".

[snip preamble]
sed -e "s#ETCDIR#/usr/local/etc#g" -e "s#DBDIR#/var/db#g"  -e "s#RUNDIR#/var/run#g" < 
dhcpd.conf.5 >dhcpd.conf.man5
nroff -man dhcpd.conf.man5 >dhcpd.conf.cat5
sed -e "s#ETCDIR#/usr/local/etc#g" -e "s#DBDIR#/var/db#g"  -e "s#RUNDIR#/var/run#g" < 
dhcpd.leases.5 >dhcpd.leases.man5
nroff -man dhcpd.leases.man5 >dhcpd.leases.cat5
--->  Build of net/isc-dhcp3-server ended at: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 15:51:15 -0400 
(consumed 00:04:10)
--->  Updating dependency info
--->  Uninstallation of isc-dhcp3-server-3.0.1.r12_3 started at: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 
15:51:30 -0400
--->  Fixing up dependencies before creating a package
--->  Backing up the old version
--->  Uninstalling the old version
--->  Deinstalling 'isc-dhcp3-server-3.0.1.r12_3'
** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed)
! isc-dhcp3-server-3.0.1.r12_3  (undefined method `each' for nil:NilClass)
--->  Packages processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 failed
--->  Uninstallation of isc-dhcp3-server-3.0.1.r12_3 ended at: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 
15:51:45 -0400 (consumed 00:00:14)
--->  Upgrade of net/isc-dhcp3-server ended at: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 15:51:45 -0400 
(consumed 00:04:40)
--->  Listing the results (+:done / -:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed)
! net/isc-dhcp3-server (isc-dhcp3-server-3.0.1.r12_3)   (uninstall error)
--->  Packages processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 failed
--->  Session ended at: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 15:51:49 -0400 (consumed 00:05:02)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/root] uname -a
FreeBSD spock.dilkie.com 4.10-STABLE FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE #0: Sat Jun 19 15:16:03 EDT 
2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SPOCK  i386

Any ideas??? Does anyone need more info?

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Re: BOINC SETI Version for FreeBSD?

2004-07-01 Thread Remko Lodder
Hey Cordula's web
Cordula's Web wrote:
Hi,
any chance to see a port of the BOINC version of setiathome
in the future? Source code to both boinc and seti boinc is
available, but no port yet... Could a ports guru please have
a look?
I very recently (yesterday?) saw somone who almost ported it over.
Checkout the freebsd-ports archive for more information..
Cheers
Thanks.

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Re: portupgrade fails on every port, undefined method 'each' for nil:NilClass

2004-07-01 Thread Joey Mingrone
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You're not alone.  I'm seeing the same problem on my FreeBSD systems.

Joey

On July 1, 2004 17:11, Lee Dilkie wrote:
> Well, I'm at a bit of a loss here.
>
> running 4.10, did a cvsup this morning, then portsdb -uU to get an up to
> date index.
>
> Bunch of ports needed updating, including portupgrade so I upgraded
> portupgrade first. That seemed to work fine (it reports version 1.8.1).
>
> Now, every port I try to upgrade fails when uninstalling the old version.
> I've tried to upgrade clamav, isc-dhcp3-server and a couple of others.
>
> All report "undefined method 'each' for nil:NilClass".
>
> [snip preamble]
> sed -e "s#ETCDIR#/usr/local/etc#g" -e "s#DBDIR#/var/db#g"  -e
> "s#RUNDIR#/var/run#g" < dhcpd.conf.5 >dhcpd.conf.man5 nroff -man
> dhcpd.conf.man5 >dhcpd.conf.cat5
> sed -e "s#ETCDIR#/usr/local/etc#g" -e "s#DBDIR#/var/db#g"  -e
> "s#RUNDIR#/var/run#g" < dhcpd.leases.5 >dhcpd.leases.man5 nroff -man
> dhcpd.leases.man5 >dhcpd.leases.cat5
> --->  Build of net/isc-dhcp3-server ended at: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 15:51:15
> -0400 (consumed 00:04:10) --->  Updating dependency info
> --->  Uninstallation of isc-dhcp3-server-3.0.1.r12_3 started at: Thu, 01
> Jul 2004 15:51:30 -0400 --->  Fixing up dependencies before creating a
> package
> --->  Backing up the old version
> --->  Uninstalling the old version
> --->  Deinstalling 'isc-dhcp3-server-3.0.1.r12_3'
> ** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed)
> ! isc-dhcp3-server-3.0.1.r12_3  (undefined method `each' for
> nil:NilClass) --->  Packages processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 1
> failed --->  Uninstallation of isc-dhcp3-server-3.0.1.r12_3 ended at: Thu,
> 01 Jul 2004 15:51:45 -0400 (consumed 00:00:14) --->  Upgrade of
> net/isc-dhcp3-server ended at: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 15:51:45 -0400 (consumed
> 00:04:40) --->  Listing the results (+:done / -:ignored / *:skipped /
> !:failed) ! net/isc-dhcp3-server (isc-dhcp3-server-3.0.1.r12_3)  
> (uninstall error) --->  Packages processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped
> and 1 failed --->  Session ended at: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 15:51:49 -0400
> (consumed 00:05:02) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/root] uname -a
> FreeBSD spock.dilkie.com 4.10-STABLE FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE #0: Sat Jun 19
> 15:16:03 EDT 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SPOCK 
> i386
>
> Any ideas??? Does anyone need more info?
>
> -lee
>
>
>
>
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Re: portupgrade fails on every port, undefined method 'each' for nil:NilClass

2004-07-01 Thread Bruce Hunter
Did you both upgrade 'portupgrade' and then the problem started?
I'm running portupgrade rev.1.225 with no problems.

On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 16:22, Joey Mingrone wrote:
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> 
> You're not alone.  I'm seeing the same problem on my FreeBSD systems.
> 
> Joey
> 
> On July 1, 2004 17:11, Lee Dilkie wrote:
> > Well, I'm at a bit of a loss here.
> >
> > running 4.10, did a cvsup this morning, then portsdb -uU to get an up to
> > date index.
> >
> > Bunch of ports needed updating, including portupgrade so I upgraded
> > portupgrade first. That seemed to work fine (it reports version 1.8.1).
> >
> > Now, every port I try to upgrade fails when uninstalling the old version.
> > I've tried to upgrade clamav, isc-dhcp3-server and a couple of others.
> >
> > All report "undefined method 'each' for nil:NilClass".
> >
> > [snip preamble]
> > sed -e "s#ETCDIR#/usr/local/etc#g" -e "s#DBDIR#/var/db#g"  -e
> > "s#RUNDIR#/var/run#g" < dhcpd.conf.5 >dhcpd.conf.man5 nroff -man
> > dhcpd.conf.man5 >dhcpd.conf.cat5
> > sed -e "s#ETCDIR#/usr/local/etc#g" -e "s#DBDIR#/var/db#g"  -e
> > "s#RUNDIR#/var/run#g" < dhcpd.leases.5 >dhcpd.leases.man5 nroff -man
> > dhcpd.leases.man5 >dhcpd.leases.cat5
> > --->  Build of net/isc-dhcp3-server ended at: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 15:51:15
> > -0400 (consumed 00:04:10) --->  Updating dependency info
> > --->  Uninstallation of isc-dhcp3-server-3.0.1.r12_3 started at: Thu, 01
> > Jul 2004 15:51:30 -0400 --->  Fixing up dependencies before creating a
> > package
> > --->  Backing up the old version
> > --->  Uninstalling the old version
> > --->  Deinstalling 'isc-dhcp3-server-3.0.1.r12_3'
> > ** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed)
> > ! isc-dhcp3-server-3.0.1.r12_3  (undefined method `each' for
> > nil:NilClass) --->  Packages processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 1
> > failed --->  Uninstallation of isc-dhcp3-server-3.0.1.r12_3 ended at: Thu,
> > 01 Jul 2004 15:51:45 -0400 (consumed 00:00:14) --->  Upgrade of
> > net/isc-dhcp3-server ended at: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 15:51:45 -0400 (consumed
> > 00:04:40) --->  Listing the results (+:done / -:ignored / *:skipped /
> > !:failed) ! net/isc-dhcp3-server (isc-dhcp3-server-3.0.1.r12_3)  
> > (uninstall error) --->  Packages processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped
> > and 1 failed --->  Session ended at: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 15:51:49 -0400
> > (consumed 00:05:02) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/root] uname -a
> > FreeBSD spock.dilkie.com 4.10-STABLE FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE #0: Sat Jun 19
> > 15:16:03 EDT 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SPOCK 
> > i386
> >
> > Any ideas??? Does anyone need more info?
> >
> > -lee
> >
> >
> >
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RE: portupgrade fails on every port, undefined method 'each' fornil:NilClass

2004-07-01 Thread Lee Dilkie
>
>
>Did you both upgrade 'portupgrade' and then the problem started?
>I'm running portupgrade rev.1.225 with no problems.

yes. I saw from portversion that portupgrade was bumped so i ran 
"portupgrade -rv portupgrade" first.

>
>On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 16:22, Joey Mingrone wrote:
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>> 
>> You're not alone.  I'm seeing the same problem on my FreeBSD systems.
>> 
>> Joey
>> 
>> On July 1, 2004 17:11, Lee Dilkie wrote:
>> > Well, I'm at a bit of a loss here.
>> >
>> > running 4.10, did a cvsup this morning, then portsdb -uU 
>to get an up to
>> > date index.
>> >
>> > Bunch of ports needed updating, including portupgrade so I upgraded
>> > portupgrade first. That seemed to work fine (it reports 
>version 1.8.1).
>> >
>> > Now, every port I try to upgrade fails when uninstalling 
>the old version.
>> > I've tried to upgrade clamav, isc-dhcp3-server and a 
>couple of others.
>> >
>> > All report "undefined method 'each' for nil:NilClass".
>> >
>> > [snip preamble]
>> > sed -e "s#ETCDIR#/usr/local/etc#g" -e "s#DBDIR#/var/db#g"  -e
>> > "s#RUNDIR#/var/run#g" < dhcpd.conf.5 >dhcpd.conf.man5 nroff -man
>> > dhcpd.conf.man5 >dhcpd.conf.cat5
>> > sed -e "s#ETCDIR#/usr/local/etc#g" -e "s#DBDIR#/var/db#g"  -e
>> > "s#RUNDIR#/var/run#g" < dhcpd.leases.5 >dhcpd.leases.man5 
>nroff -man
>> > dhcpd.leases.man5 >dhcpd.leases.cat5
>> > --->  Build of net/isc-dhcp3-server ended at: Thu, 01 Jul 
>2004 15:51:15
>> > -0400 (consumed 00:04:10) --->  Updating dependency info
>> > --->  Uninstallation of isc-dhcp3-server-3.0.1.r12_3 
>started at: Thu, 01
>> > Jul 2004 15:51:30 -0400 --->  Fixing up dependencies 
>before creating a
>> > package
>> > --->  Backing up the old version
>> > --->  Uninstalling the old version
>> > --->  Deinstalling 'isc-dhcp3-server-3.0.1.r12_3'
>> > ** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed)
>> > ! isc-dhcp3-server-3.0.1.r12_3  (undefined method 
>`each' for
>> > nil:NilClass) --->  Packages processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 
>0 skipped and 1
>> > failed --->  Uninstallation of 
>isc-dhcp3-server-3.0.1.r12_3 ended at: Thu,
>> > 01 Jul 2004 15:51:45 -0400 (consumed 00:00:14) --->  Upgrade of
>> > net/isc-dhcp3-server ended at: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 15:51:45 
>-0400 (consumed
>> > 00:04:40) --->  Listing the results (+:done / -:ignored / 
>*:skipped /
>> > !:failed) ! net/isc-dhcp3-server (isc-dhcp3-server-3.0.1.r12_3)  
>> > (uninstall error) --->  Packages processed: 0 done, 0 
>ignored, 0 skipped
>> > and 1 failed --->  Session ended at: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 
>15:51:49 -0400
>> > (consumed 00:05:02) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/root] uname -a
>> > FreeBSD spock.dilkie.com 4.10-STABLE FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE 
>#0: Sat Jun 19
>> > 15:16:03 EDT 2004 
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>> > i386
>> >
>> > Any ideas??? Does anyone need more info?
>> >
>> > -lee
>> >
>> >
>> >
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Re: portupgrade fails on every port, undefined method 'each' for nil:NilClass

2004-07-01 Thread Joey Mingrone
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On July 1, 2004 17:26, Bruce Hunter wrote:
> Did you both upgrade 'portupgrade' and then the problem started?

Yeah, problems stared after upgrading to portupgrade-20040701.  I'm guessing 
there will be another update shortly.

Joey

> I'm running portupgrade rev.1.225 with no problems.
>
> On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 16:22, Joey Mingrone wrote:
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > You're not alone.  I'm seeing the same problem on my FreeBSD systems.
> >
> > Joey
> >
> > On July 1, 2004 17:11, Lee Dilkie wrote:
> > > Well, I'm at a bit of a loss here.
> > >
> > > running 4.10, did a cvsup this morning, then portsdb -uU to get an up
> > > to date index.
> > >
> > > Bunch of ports needed updating, including portupgrade so I upgraded
> > > portupgrade first. That seemed to work fine (it reports version 1.8.1).
> > >
> > > Now, every port I try to upgrade fails when uninstalling the old
> > > version. I've tried to upgrade clamav, isc-dhcp3-server and a couple of
> > > others.
> > >
> > > All report "undefined method 'each' for nil:NilClass".
> > >
> > > [snip preamble]
> > > sed -e "s#ETCDIR#/usr/local/etc#g" -e "s#DBDIR#/var/db#g"  -e
> > > "s#RUNDIR#/var/run#g" < dhcpd.conf.5 >dhcpd.conf.man5 nroff -man
> > > dhcpd.conf.man5 >dhcpd.conf.cat5
> > > sed -e "s#ETCDIR#/usr/local/etc#g" -e "s#DBDIR#/var/db#g"  -e
> > > "s#RUNDIR#/var/run#g" < dhcpd.leases.5 >dhcpd.leases.man5 nroff -man
> > > dhcpd.leases.man5 >dhcpd.leases.cat5
> > > --->  Build of net/isc-dhcp3-server ended at: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 15:51:15
> > > -0400 (consumed 00:04:10) --->  Updating dependency info
> > > --->  Uninstallation of isc-dhcp3-server-3.0.1.r12_3 started at: Thu,
> > > 01 Jul 2004 15:51:30 -0400 --->  Fixing up dependencies before creating
> > > a package
> > > --->  Backing up the old version
> > > --->  Uninstalling the old version
> > > --->  Deinstalling 'isc-dhcp3-server-3.0.1.r12_3'
> > > ** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed)
> > > ! isc-dhcp3-server-3.0.1.r12_3  (undefined method `each' for
> > > nil:NilClass) --->  Packages processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped
> > > and 1 failed --->  Uninstallation of isc-dhcp3-server-3.0.1.r12_3 ended
> > > at: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 15:51:45 -0400 (consumed 00:00:14) --->  Upgrade
> > > of net/isc-dhcp3-server ended at: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 15:51:45 -0400
> > > (consumed 00:04:40) --->  Listing the results (+:done / -:ignored /
> > > *:skipped / !:failed) ! net/isc-dhcp3-server
> > > (isc-dhcp3-server-3.0.1.r12_3) (uninstall error) --->  Packages
> > > processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 failed --->  Session
> > > ended at: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 15:51:49 -0400 (consumed 00:05:02)
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/root] uname -a
> > > FreeBSD spock.dilkie.com 4.10-STABLE FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE #0: Sat Jun 19
> > > 15:16:03 EDT 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SPOCK
> > > i386
> > >
> > > Any ideas??? Does anyone need more info?
> > >
> > > -lee
> > >
> > >
> > >
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RE: portupgrade fails on every port, undefined method 'each' fornil:NilClass

2004-07-01 Thread Lee Dilkie
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joey Mingrone
>Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 4:35 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Cc: Bruce Hunter
>Subject: Re: portupgrade fails on every port, undefined method 'each'
>fornil:NilClass
>
>
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>On July 1, 2004 17:26, Bruce Hunter wrote:
>> Did you both upgrade 'portupgrade' and then the problem started?
>
>Yeah, problems stared after upgrading to portupgrade-20040701. 
> I'm guessing 
>there will be another update shortly.
>
>Joey
>

Then the fun of trying to upgrade portupgrade when it won't uninstall will begin...

Anticipating that I'll need some directions on how to do this manually.

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Re: portupgrade fails on every port, undefined method 'each' fornil:NilClass

2004-07-01 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Thursday 01 July 2004 03:44 pm, Lee Dilkie wrote:
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joey
> > Mingrone Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 4:35 PM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Cc: Bruce Hunter
> >Subject: Re: portupgrade fails on every port, undefined method
> > 'each' fornil:NilClass
> >
> >
> >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> >Hash: SHA1
> >
> >On July 1, 2004 17:26, Bruce Hunter wrote:
> >> Did you both upgrade 'portupgrade' and then the problem started?
> >
> >Yeah, problems stared after upgrading to portupgrade-20040701.
> > I'm guessing
> >there will be another update shortly.
> >
> >Joey
>
> Then the fun of trying to upgrade portupgrade when it won't uninstall
> will begin...
>
> Anticipating that I'll need some directions on how to do this
> manually.
>

You can always pkg_delete an installed port.

Good luck,

Andrew Gould
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Re: portupgrade fails on every port, undefined method 'each' fornil:NilClass

2004-07-01 Thread Joey Mingrone
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cd /usr/ports/sysutils/portupgrade
make deinstall
make install

should do it.

You might try looking at /usr/ports/sysutils/portdowngrade as well.

Joey


On July 1, 2004 17:44, Lee Dilkie wrote:
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joey Mingrone
> >Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 4:35 PM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Cc: Bruce Hunter
> >Subject: Re: portupgrade fails on every port, undefined method 'each'
> >fornil:NilClass
> >
> >
> >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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> >
> >On July 1, 2004 17:26, Bruce Hunter wrote:
> >> Did you both upgrade 'portupgrade' and then the problem started?
> >
> >Yeah, problems stared after upgrading to portupgrade-20040701.
> > I'm guessing
> >there will be another update shortly.
> >
> >Joey
>
> Then the fun of trying to upgrade portupgrade when it won't uninstall will
> begin...
>
> Anticipating that I'll need some directions on how to do this manually.
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Re: portupgrade fails on every port, undefined method 'each' for nil:NilClass

2004-07-01 Thread Kent Stewart
On Thursday 01 July 2004 01:34 pm, Joey Mingrone wrote:
> On July 1, 2004 17:26, Bruce Hunter wrote:
> > Did you both upgrade 'portupgrade' and then the problem started?
>
> Yeah, problems stared after upgrading to portupgrade-20040701.  I'm
> guessing there will be another update shortly.
>

I haven't seen any comments to knu@ about the problem. I can repeat 
portupgrading portupgrade from the source and create a package. When I 
try to portupgrade using the package, I get 

# portupgrade -Puf portupgrade
--->  Checking for the latest package of 'sysutils/portupgrade'
** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed)
! sysutils/portupgrade (portupgrade-20040701)   (undefined 
method `>' for #)
--->  Packages processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 failed

It also failed to delete devel/libtool-1.4.3_3, which was just moved 
into the Attic.

Kent

> Joey
>
> > I'm running portupgrade rev.1.225 with no problems.
> >
> > On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 16:22, Joey Mingrone wrote:
> > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > > Hash: SHA1
> > >
> > > You're not alone.  I'm seeing the same problem on my FreeBSD
> > > systems.
> > >
> > > Joey
> > >
> > > On July 1, 2004 17:11, Lee Dilkie wrote:
> > > > Well, I'm at a bit of a loss here.
> > > >
> > > > running 4.10, did a cvsup this morning, then portsdb -uU to get
> > > > an up to date index.
> > > >
> > > > Bunch of ports needed updating, including portupgrade so I
> > > > upgraded portupgrade first. That seemed to work fine (it
> > > > reports version 1.8.1).
> > > >
> > > > Now, every port I try to upgrade fails when uninstalling the
> > > > old version. I've tried to upgrade clamav, isc-dhcp3-server and
> > > > a couple of others.
> > > >
> > > > All report "undefined method 'each' for nil:NilClass".
> > > >
> > > > [snip preamble]
> > > > sed -e "s#ETCDIR#/usr/local/etc#g" -e "s#DBDIR#/var/db#g"  -e
> > > > "s#RUNDIR#/var/run#g" < dhcpd.conf.5 >dhcpd.conf.man5 nroff
> > > > -man dhcpd.conf.man5 >dhcpd.conf.cat5
> > > > sed -e "s#ETCDIR#/usr/local/etc#g" -e "s#DBDIR#/var/db#g"  -e
> > > > "s#RUNDIR#/var/run#g" < dhcpd.leases.5 >dhcpd.leases.man5 nroff
> > > > -man dhcpd.leases.man5 >dhcpd.leases.cat5
> > > > --->  Build of net/isc-dhcp3-server ended at: Thu, 01 Jul 2004
> > > > 15:51:15 -0400 (consumed 00:04:10) --->  Updating dependency
> > > > info --->  Uninstallation of isc-dhcp3-server-3.0.1.r12_3
> > > > started at: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 15:51:30 -0400 --->  Fixing up
> > > > dependencies before creating a package
> > > > --->  Backing up the old version
> > > > --->  Uninstalling the old version
> > > > --->  Deinstalling 'isc-dhcp3-server-3.0.1.r12_3'
> > > > ** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed)
> > > > ! isc-dhcp3-server-3.0.1.r12_3  (undefined method
> > > > `each' for nil:NilClass) --->  Packages processed: 0 done, 0
> > > > ignored, 0 skipped and 1 failed --->  Uninstallation of
> > > > isc-dhcp3-server-3.0.1.r12_3 ended at: Thu, 01 Jul 2004
> > > > 15:51:45 -0400 (consumed 00:00:14) --->  Upgrade of
> > > > net/isc-dhcp3-server ended at: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 15:51:45 -0400
> > > > (consumed 00:04:40) --->  Listing the results (+:done /
> > > > -:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) ! net/isc-dhcp3-server
> > > > (isc-dhcp3-server-3.0.1.r12_3) (uninstall error) --->  Packages
> > > > processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 failed ---> 
> > > > Session ended at: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 15:51:49 -0400 (consumed
> > > > 00:05:02) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/root] uname -a
> > > > FreeBSD spock.dilkie.com 4.10-STABLE FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE #0:
> > > > Sat Jun 19 15:16:03 EDT 2004
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SPOCK i386
> > > >
> > > > Any ideas??? Does anyone need more info?
> > > >
> > > > -lee
> > > >
> > > >
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Re: portupgrade fails on every port, undefined method 'each' fornil:NilClass

2004-07-01 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Thu, Jul 01, 2004 at 04:44:57PM -0400, Lee Dilkie wrote:
> Then the fun of trying to upgrade portupgrade when it won't uninstall will begin...
> 
> Anticipating that I'll need some directions on how to do this manually.

It isn't difficult:

# pkg_delete portupgrade-20040701
# cd /usr/ports/sysutils/portupgrade
# make install

Now, all we need is the fixed version of portupgrade.

Cheers

Matthew

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du -k VS ls -l (what I'm missing?)

2004-07-01 Thread Alex K

Hello, all!

(sorry for not wraping text, it messes up)


what do I miss here?
sum of individual file sizes is much more than "total" in ls and more than du -k 
reports

bash-2.05b$ ls -l
total 354112
-rw-r--r--  1 lesha  wheel   98490960  1 июл 12:29 88479E51B1D77190A2A8C882
-rw-r--r--  1 lesha  wheel  299376716 25 июн 15:20 F44AA5CA2D90F33EE0F1
-rw-r--r--  1 lesha  wheel  540729348  1 июл 19:01 0C859D601337F1D26D68BA90
-rw-r--r--  1 lesha  wheel  125204414 30 июн 18:12 50922168AB8D4CB73FA39063
-rw-r--r--  1 lesha  wheel  365164364  1 июл 12:06 CBB789334BF480B9ED153EA8
-rw-r--r--  1 lesha  wheel  209031053 30 июн 19:05 B2AFAA6C8C68575BA97476F4
-rw-r--r--  1 lesha  wheel  336457988 29 июн 17:43 200DCA96AFFAF2FB08E3E279
-rw-r--r--  1 lesha  wheel   40714776  1 июл 18:16 6E30F671D9F305458A093617
-rw-r--r--  1 lesha  wheel  209945132 25 июн 15:29 A515D96BFAD85C294D4A9BB7
-rw-r--r--  1 lesha  wheel  114632620  1 июл 18:25 7868FE483F37D653109E67B3
-rw-r--r--  1 lesha  wheel  242241614  1 июл 19:02 75B7DC03642E00CE564C1FF6
-rw-r--r--  1 lesha  wheel   42681134 25 июн 15:29 F9C3246915327E44B9B0FD2C
-rw-r--r--  1 lesha  wheel  165569384 30 июн 18:54 4FCA6EC8E3AB33B33E3E5011
bash-2.05b$ du -k
354114  .
bash-2.05b$

Cheers, 
AL.
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Re: Linux-Opera problem

2004-07-01 Thread Gautam Gopalakrishnan
On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 15:02:41 -0400, Bruce Hunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> When I try and run linux-opera, i get this error.
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] rehash
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] linux-opera
> ELF binary type "0" not known.
> ELF binary type "0" not known.
> /usr/X11R6/share/linux-opera/bin/opera: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected

Maybe you can try brandelf(1)

Gautam
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Re: Booting with Grub

2004-07-01 Thread Jonathan Franks
Andrew Walrond wrote:
I have installed 5.2.1 into a partition and I want to use my existing 
bootloader, grub.

Can anyone tell me what the required grub configuartion line would look like, 
or point me to an FAQ?

Andrew Walrond
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I'm actually using a GRUB floppy, but this is what I type in to boot 
freeBSD (it's on the second IDE drive in my system)

GRUB> root (hd1,0)
GRUB> chainloder +1
GRUB> boot
in the first line, (hd1,0) refers to the HDD and the partition, in that 
order. So if you have only one drive, and BSD is on the second partiton, 
for example, you'd use "root (hd0,1)"

Hope this helps...
Jonathan
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Re: Linux-Opera problem

2004-07-01 Thread epilogue
On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 15:54:31 -0400
Bruce Hunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 15:34, Mike Hogsett wrote:
> > > When I try and run linux-opera, i get this error.
> > > 
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] rehash
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] linux-opera
> > > ELF binary type "0" not known.
> > > ELF binary type "0" not known.
> > > /usr/X11R6/share/linux-opera/bin/opera: 1: Syntax error: "("
> > > unexpected
> > > 
> > > what does that mean? What should I do?
> > 
> > Try doing (as root of course)
> > 
> > ; kldload linux
> > 
> I tried what you asked:
> This is what happened..
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] su
> Password:
> solid# kldload linux
> solid# linux-opera
> Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the
> authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based
> authentication failed
> cannot open file "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XftConfig"
> Segmentation fault (core dumped)

i don't have /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XftConfig either, but my linux-opera
runs just fine.  i'm not sure that this is the problem.

do you have one of the linux_base ports installed?

-- if no, you'll need one.
-- if yes, give pkgdb -Fu a try and see if that clears anything up.

also try running opera as a normal user.  your root account may not have
the same 'environment variables' set as you regular account.  (a problem
i've run into in the past which gave me curious X related error messages)


good luck,
epi


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RE: Question about HP drivers

2004-07-01 Thread Carlos Lizana (CH/CEC)
Peter, but my FreeBSD Version is this:

FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE #7

-Original Message-
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Sent: Martes, 22 de Junio de 2004 16:42
To: Carlos Lizana (CH/CEC)
Cc: 'Lucas Holt'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Re: Question about HP drivers


I sent this off-list, but it would be better here.

Carlos Lizana (CH/CEC) wrote:
> FreeBSD 4.5
> 
> 
> Is the ethernet chipset listed as supported on freebsd.org?  What 
> version of freebsd are you using?
> 
> 
> On Jun 22, 2004, at 12:38 PM, Carlos Lizana (CH/CEC) wrote:
> 
> 
>>Hi Folks, we have installed two FreeBSD, is been used as firewall, but 
>>own equipment were upgraded and now have HP Compaq d530C/P2 


It's probably a Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet PCI Adapter, and you 
should be OK with FreeBSD 5.2.1

I gather this driver appeared with 5.1 so earlier releases will not 
support it.

Out of interest, the first half-dozen results when you google for 
*FreeBSD HP Compaq d530C/P2* reveal this.

Peter.
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Re: du -k VS ls -l (what I'm missing?)

2004-07-01 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Fri, Jul 02, 2004 at 01:04:32AM +0400, Alex K wrote:

> what do I miss here?
> sum of individual file sizes is much more than "total" in ls and more than du -k 
> reports
> 
> bash-2.05b$ ls -l
> total 354112
> -rw-r--r--  1 lesha  wheel   98490960  1 ??? 12:29 88479E51B1D77190A2A8C882
> -rw-r--r--  1 lesha  wheel  299376716 25 ??? 15:20 F44AA5CA2D90F33EE0F1
> -rw-r--r--  1 lesha  wheel  540729348  1 ??? 19:01 0C859D601337F1D26D68BA90
> -rw-r--r--  1 lesha  wheel  125204414 30 ??? 18:12 50922168AB8D4CB73FA39063
> -rw-r--r--  1 lesha  wheel  365164364  1 ??? 12:06 CBB789334BF480B9ED153EA8
> -rw-r--r--  1 lesha  wheel  209031053 30 ??? 19:05 B2AFAA6C8C68575BA97476F4
> -rw-r--r--  1 lesha  wheel  336457988 29 ??? 17:43 200DCA96AFFAF2FB08E3E279
> -rw-r--r--  1 lesha  wheel   40714776  1 ??? 18:16 6E30F671D9F305458A093617
> -rw-r--r--  1 lesha  wheel  209945132 25 ??? 15:29 A515D96BFAD85C294D4A9BB7
> -rw-r--r--  1 lesha  wheel  114632620  1 ??? 18:25 7868FE483F37D653109E67B3
> -rw-r--r--  1 lesha  wheel  242241614  1 ??? 19:02 75B7DC03642E00CE564C1FF6
> -rw-r--r--  1 lesha  wheel   42681134 25 ??? 15:29 F9C3246915327E44B9B0FD2C
> -rw-r--r--  1 lesha  wheel  165569384 30 ??? 18:54 4FCA6EC8E3AB33B33E3E5011
> bash-2.05b$ du -k
> 354114  .
> bash-2.05b$

The 'total' figure from ls(1) and the number shown by du(1) is the
total disk usage in blocks of 1024 bytes (if BLOCKSIZE=k is set in
your environment, which is the default) -- in this case, about a
factor of 7 smaller than the total of the file sizes.

Files can have 'holes' -- parts of the file that have never been
written to, although later parts of the file have.  Disk blocks are
not allocated for those unwritten areas.  If you use hexdump(1) on the
file, the holes will show up as a sequence of null bytes.

The way to tell if a file is holey is to compare the size of the file
against the number of blocks allocated for it using:

% stat -f "%10z %6b %N" *

[ or

% ls -ls *

where the 1st column is the number of blocks, the 6th is the filesize
in bytes]

If the filesize is significantly greater than the number of blocks
multiplied by the block size (stat(1) shows 512 byte blocks, ls(1)
shows 1024 byte blocks) then those files have holes in them.  It's
quite common to see this, for example, in files that are the backing
stores for databases.

Having holey files is not a problem, although some broken backup
software will tend to fill in all of the gaps with zeros, meaning that
occasionally you can't restore a file back onto the same partition it
was backed up from.  You can quite easily have a file whose apparent
size is larger than the partition holding it.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Newbie

2004-07-01 Thread c_ranchhod
Hi, 

I am new to this, just wandering if I could get some pointers in right 
direction into learning this software from basics to gaining intermidiate 
skills. 

I am a cisco engineer however want to learn  the unix/linux too. 

any advice you can give me or what will help in learning BSD. 

Regards 

Chintan 

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Re: Linux-Opera problem

2004-07-01 Thread Bruce Hunter
On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 16:55, epilogue wrote:
> On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 15:54:31 -0400
> Bruce Hunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 15:34, Mike Hogsett wrote:
> > > > When I try and run linux-opera, i get this error.
> > > > 
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] rehash
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] linux-opera
> > > > ELF binary type "0" not known.
> > > > ELF binary type "0" not known.
> > > > /usr/X11R6/share/linux-opera/bin/opera: 1: Syntax error: "("
> > > > unexpected
> > > > 
> > > > what does that mean? What should I do?
> > > 
> > > Try doing (as root of course)
> > > 
> > > ; kldload linux
> > > 
> > I tried what you asked:
> > This is what happened..
> > 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] su
> > Password:
> > solid# kldload linux
> > solid# linux-opera
> > Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the
> > authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based
> > authentication failed
> > cannot open file "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XftConfig"
> > Segmentation fault (core dumped)
> 
> i don't have /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XftConfig either, but my linux-opera
> runs just fine.  i'm not sure that this is the problem.
> 
> do you have one of the linux_base ports installed?
> 
> -- if no, you'll need one.
> -- if yes, give pkgdb -Fu a try and see if that clears anything up.
> 
> also try running opera as a normal user.  your root account may not have
> the same 'environment variables' set as you regular account.  (a problem
> i've run into in the past which gave me curious X related error messages)
> 
> 
> good luck,
> epi
> 
> 
I ran linux-opera as a normal user and it ran, I really don't understand
why it won't run for root. Not like I should be running it as root.

hmm..

Bruce

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Re: BOINC SETI Version for FreeBSD?

2004-07-01 Thread Cordula's Web
Remko Lodder:
> Cordula's Web wrote:
> > any chance to see a port of the BOINC version of setiathome
> > in the future? Source code to both boinc and seti boinc is
> > available, but no port yet... Could a ports guru please have
> > a look?
> 
> I very recently (yesterday?) saw somone who almost ported it over.
> Checkout the freebsd-ports archive for more information..

Ah yes, there it is:

http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=624105+0+current/freebsd-ports

I must have missed it. Silly me.

Many thanks,

-cpghost.

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Re: [OT] fetchmail, procmail and mutt (oh my!)

2004-07-01 Thread Toni Schmidbauer
On Wed, Jun 30, 2004 at 09:46:31PM -0500, Andrew L. Gould wrote:
> If I put 'mda /usr/local/bin/procmail' in the .fetchmailrc lines, 
> procmail puts the emails in the correct mbox files; but mutt complains 
> that the files are not valid email files and refuses to read them.

i've this line in my .fetchmailrc:

poll  with proto imap user "username" pass "pass" mda '/usr/bin/procmail 
-d %T' ssl

i believe it's important to invoke procmail with the -d option,
but read procmail(1).

works like a charm for me.

hth,
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Re: mini itx

2004-07-01 Thread Toni Schmidbauer
On Wed, Jun 30, 2004 at 11:30:27PM +0100, arden wrote:
> has anyone used these boards with bds?

using a via epia cl6000e with 5.2.1, it's running my home firewall and
mailserver, no problems so far.

hth,
toni
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DataTraveler 2.0

2004-07-01 Thread grantg
Hi there

I am currently having trouble with this compact flash card.
It's a Kingston DataTraveler 2.0 and everytime I plug it in I
get theses errors popping up.

umass0: BBB reset failed, TIMEOUT
umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, TIMEOUT
umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, TIMEOUT

this repeats about five times.

any suggest on a solutions or any ideas on where I can start
looking for answers?

Thanks
Grant

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Re: Newbie

2004-07-01 Thread Chris Strzelczyk
First off susbscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Second, there are a number of books out there for complete newbies and
even for seasond professionals.  I personally recommand AbsoluteBSD by
Michael Lucas.

Cheers
-chris
> Hi,
>
> I am new to this, just wandering if I could get some pointers in right
> direction into learning this software from basics to gaining intermidiate
> skills.
>
> I am a cisco engineer however want to learn  the unix/linux too.
>
> any advice you can give me or what will help in learning BSD.
>
> Regards
>
> Chintan
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[WAAAY OT]

2004-07-01 Thread Eric Crist
Anyone know what the ACTUAL definition/word for I in Ohm's Law is?  I
know:

E= Electromotive Force
R= Resistance
I= ?  (I know it's amperage, but what does I mean?)

Thanks.

Sorry for being so far OT.

Eric F Crist
President
AdTech Integrated Systems, Inc
(612) 998-3588



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tar problem

2004-07-01 Thread Bruce Hunter
I am trying to archive this directory for backup purposes. I am getting
this error when trying to create a new tar file. 

Solisix/
[EMAIL PROTECTED] su
Password:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] tar -c Solisix/
tar: /dev/sa0: Cannot open: Operation not supported
tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now

What is wrong? Permissions? I am root..

Bruce

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Re: [WAAAY OT]

2004-07-01 Thread Roop Nanuwa
On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 18:44:43 -0500, Eric Crist
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Anyone know what the ACTUAL definition/word for I in Ohm's Law is?  I
> know:
> 
> E= Electromotive Force
> R= Resistance
> I= ?  (I know it's amperage, but what does I mean?)
> 

I = Current.

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Re: Newbie

2004-07-01 Thread Jon Drews
Hello Chintan:

 In addition to Chris' advice I heartily recommend the tutorials at
FreeBSD basics:

http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/ct/15

I also find Greg Lehey's "The Complete FreeBSD" to be a very good
reference book.

On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 23:03:14 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> 

> I am a cisco engineer however want to learn  the unix/linux too.
> 
> any advice you can give me or what will help in learning BSD.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Chintan
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device hints issue

2004-07-01 Thread David Bear
I just completed a cvsup make buildworld, buildkernel cycle for
freebsd 4.10. I cvsup'ed to releng_4_10.  when attempting to 
make installkernel I get the following error:

/i386/usr/games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
/usr/obj/usr/src/make.i386/make KERNEL=kernel install
You must set up a /boot/device.hints file first.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC.
*** Error code 1
...
this seems stranges since according the handbook device.hints is a
feature of 5.x. It does not exist in /boot anywhere.  should I touch
/boot/device.hints and just let it go?


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RE: [WAAAY OT]

2004-07-01 Thread Eric Crist
That's it!  Reason for my question was that a buddy asked me as a trivia
question.  Bet me $50 I couldn't figure it out (we both agreed any
method I could use was OK) by the time he left for Vancouver, WA
tomorrow morning.

Thanks guys.



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(612) 998-3588



> -Original Message-
> From: Baron Fujimoto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 7:45 PM
> To: Eric Crist
> Subject: RE: [WAAAY OT]
>
>
> ahh, I didn't realize that's what you were asking.  I've seen
> at least one reference that speculates that "I" was for
> Intensity, though even there they acknowledge dispute over
> the etymology.  I always just assumed it was a standard
> chosen to minimize ambiguity with many other common physical
> properties.
>
  http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_1/chpt_2/1.html

On Thu, 1 Jul 2004, Eric Crist wrote:

: Thanks for all your responses, but I still don't have the information
: I'm seeking.  The letter I in Ohm's Law is short for an english word,
: such as E is short for Electromotive Force (or Voltage), and R is
short
: for Resistance.
:
:
: > -Original Message-
: > From: Luke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
: > Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 7:24 PM
: > To: Eric Crist
: > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: > Subject: Re: [WAAAY OT]
: >
: >
: >
: > > Anyone know what the ACTUAL definition/word for I in Ohm's
: > Law is?  I
: > > know:
: > >
: > > E= Electromotive Force
: > > R= Resistance
: > > I= ?  (I know it's amperage, but what does I mean?)
: >
: > Impedance


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RE: mini itx

2004-07-01 Thread george vagner

On Wed, Jun 30, 2004 at 11:30:27PM +0100, arden wrote:
> has anyone used these boards with bds?

using a via epia cl6000e with 5.2.1, it's running my home firewall and
mailserver, no problems so far.

hth,
toni
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I was using an epia M1000 for my main webserver until it died
With the hard drive controller reporting my disk as -68 megs.
Also some of the capacitors were leaking. Noticed that
Perl would regularly signal 10 while scanning mail messages
For virii. Its on RMA now. 

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IP bandwidth

2004-07-01 Thread John Lee
dear all,

i'm using a freebsd 4.10-stable server with 50 IP addresses.
Is there any program i can install that will be able to tell me:

- how much bandwidth (ie. kbps) each individual IP is using?

trafcount seems to count total traffic only, any idea?

thanks.

John
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Re: IP bandwidth

2004-07-01 Thread Tim Aslat
In the immortal words of "John Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> i'm using a freebsd 4.10-stable server with 50 IP addresses.
> Is there any program i can install that will be able to tell me:
> 
> - how much bandwidth (ie. kbps) each individual IP is using?
> 
> trafcount seems to count total traffic only, any idea?

Try using the log functions of the ipfw system

ipfw add log ip from any to  

an entry for each address would log all traffic to/from that address

Cheers

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Re: Gnome installing Mozilla by default

2004-07-01 Thread epilogue
On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 10:46:04 -0700
Dan Finn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 12:03:37 -0400, epilogue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > 
> > On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 07:04:47 -0400
> > Aaron Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > Roop Nanuwa wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'll join in on the praise for Opera. It really is the best web
> > > > browser that's extremely light but still has all the "modern day"
> > > > features one would expect from a web browser and then some. I will
> > > > warn you about a couple of things, though.
> > > >
> > > > 1] The native FreeBSD version is not going to run Flash. I've
> > > > pulled out many, many hairs about this but have never gotten the
> > > > two to work together. If you want to view Flash, then install the
> > > > linux-opera port.
> > > > 2] You'll be spoiled after using Opera for any length of time. I've
> > > > been using Opera for a long time and I simply can't tolerate any
> > > > other browsers. The feature set it provides is so expansive that
> > > > other browsers will seem utterly gutted in comparison. Ever use vi
> > > > for a while and then notice that random ':w' or ':wq' start
> > > > appearing in places where they shouldn't because you've gotten so
> > > > used to the commands? Same idea here. 3] The default interface is
> > > > not for everyone. Just realize that the interface is highly
> > > > configurable so don't let it turn you off if it's not to your
> > > > liking.
> > > >
> > > > --roop
> > >
> > > Just curious, but which version of flash are you using with Opera?  I
> > > did a search of the ports tree and found quite a few flash ports and
> > > was confused on which one to install.
> > >
> > 
> > um, this one...
> > 
> > ~> pkg_info | grep -i flash
> > 
> > linux-flashplugin-7.0r25 The official Macromedia Flash Player for Linux
> > Mozilla and
> > 
> > hth,
> > epi
> > 
> 
> all this talk of opera got me interested so I thought I would go ahead
> and install it.
> 
> a "make install" of /usr/ports/www/linux-opera seemed to work fine.  I
> get this when I try and run it:
> 
> [ dfinn @ stewie : ~] : linux-opera 
> opera: Could not initialize spell checker interface. File not found or
> could not be opened (-7)
> Segmentation fault (core dumped)

well, i've never run into this problem before, but the ports have a
tendency to change from day to day and funny things can happen.

my guess is that the linux-aspell (ports/textproc) dependency wasn't
installed.  try adding that and see what happens.

also, just to be certain, do you have one of the linux-base ports installed
and linux_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf?  if not, this will definitely
cause you all sorts of grief.  if you end up installing a linux-base and
adding that setting to rc.conf, just be aware that it will take a reboot
(or some other less drastic wizardry that i don't know) in order for the
new rc.conf setting to take effect.

for the record, i'm using linux_base-8 and haven't had any problems
whatsoever.  some ports (acroread, for example) will ask for a
different linux_base version but will install anyway. after the install of
any such program, you just pkgdb -Fu and tell it to depend upon the version
you have installed.

give all this a shot and let us know what comes of it.  i'm not sure that
i've hit upon 'your' problem, but i've got my fingers crossed.


cheers,
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sshd:

2004-07-01 Thread tscheng
I exec /usr/sbin/sshd, but got "Privilege separation user sshd does not
exist"
but I do have, in the /etc/group:
sshd:*:22:
and with vipw:
sshd:*:22:22::0:0:Secure Shell Daemon:/var/empty:/sbin/nologin


is there anything I missed?

Eureka!

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Re: Booting with Grub

2004-07-01 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Thursday 01 July 2004 09:32 am, Andrew Walrond wrote:
> I have installed 5.2.1 into a partition and I want to use my existing
> bootloader, grub.
>
> Can anyone tell me what the required grub configuartion line would
> look like, or point me to an FAQ?
>
> Andrew Walrond

I found the url below by searching for GRUB and FreeBSD on google.

http://geodsoft.com/howto/dualboot/grub.htm#freebsd

Best of luck,

Andrew Gould
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Re: tar problem

2004-07-01 Thread Bruce Hunter
On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 22:23, Roop Nanuwa wrote:
> On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 20:36:44 -0400, Bruce Hunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > I am trying to archive this directory for backup purposes. I am getting
> > this error when trying to create a new tar file.
> > 
> > Solisix/
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] su
> > Password:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] tar -c Solisix/
> > tar: /dev/sa0: Cannot open: Operation not supported
> > tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
> > 
> > What is wrong? Permissions? I am root..
> > 
> 
> You need to specify the 'f' option to tell tar where to write the tar
> to, it's defaulting
> to /dev/sa0 which probably doesn't exist on your system.
> 
> Run:
> tar -cf Solisix.tar Solisix/
> 
> --roop

Thanks, I got it to work. How would I include the current system date
like this.

#tar -cvf Solisix-$USER.tar Solisix/ <--- with current user..

I want the date instead..

#tar -cvf Solisix-$date.tar Solisix/ <-- doesn't work

I'm still learning.. sorry

Bruce

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Re: tar problem

2004-07-01 Thread Roop Nanuwa
On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 20:36:44 -0400, Bruce Hunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> I am trying to archive this directory for backup purposes. I am getting
> this error when trying to create a new tar file.
> 
> Solisix/
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] su
> Password:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] tar -c Solisix/
> tar: /dev/sa0: Cannot open: Operation not supported
> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
> 
> What is wrong? Permissions? I am root..
> 

You need to specify the 'f' option to tell tar where to write the tar
to, it's defaulting
to /dev/sa0 which probably doesn't exist on your system.

Run:
tar -cf Solisix.tar Solisix/

--roop
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Re: Gnome installing Mozilla by default

2004-07-01 Thread Bruce Hunter
On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 16:45, epilogue wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 10:46:04 -0700
> Dan Finn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 12:03:37 -0400, epilogue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > 
> > > On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 07:04:47 -0400
> > > Aaron Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Roop Nanuwa wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I'll join in on the praise for Opera. It really is the best web
> > > > > browser that's extremely light but still has all the "modern day"
> > > > > features one would expect from a web browser and then some. I will
> > > > > warn you about a couple of things, though.
> > > > >
> > > > > 1] The native FreeBSD version is not going to run Flash. I've
> > > > > pulled out many, many hairs about this but have never gotten the
> > > > > two to work together. If you want to view Flash, then install the
> > > > > linux-opera port.
> > > > > 2] You'll be spoiled after using Opera for any length of time. I've
> > > > > been using Opera for a long time and I simply can't tolerate any
> > > > > other browsers. The feature set it provides is so expansive that
> > > > > other browsers will seem utterly gutted in comparison. Ever use vi
> > > > > for a while and then notice that random ':w' or ':wq' start
> > > > > appearing in places where they shouldn't because you've gotten so
> > > > > used to the commands? Same idea here. 3] The default interface is
> > > > > not for everyone. Just realize that the interface is highly
> > > > > configurable so don't let it turn you off if it's not to your
> > > > > liking.
> > > > >
> > > > > --roop
> > > >
> > > > Just curious, but which version of flash are you using with Opera?  I
> > > > did a search of the ports tree and found quite a few flash ports and
> > > > was confused on which one to install.
> > > >
> > > 
> > > um, this one...
> > > 
> > > ~> pkg_info | grep -i flash
> > > 
> > > linux-flashplugin-7.0r25 The official Macromedia Flash Player for Linux
> > > Mozilla and
> > > 
> > > hth,
> > > epi
> > > 
> > 
> > all this talk of opera got me interested so I thought I would go ahead
> > and install it.
> > 
> > a "make install" of /usr/ports/www/linux-opera seemed to work fine.  I
> > get this when I try and run it:
> > 
> > [ dfinn @ stewie : ~] : linux-opera 
> > opera: Could not initialize spell checker interface. File not found or
> > could not be opened (-7)
> > Segmentation fault (core dumped)
> 
> well, i've never run into this problem before, but the ports have a
> tendency to change from day to day and funny things can happen.
> 
> my guess is that the linux-aspell (ports/textproc) dependency wasn't
> installed.  try adding that and see what happens.
> 
> also, just to be certain, do you have one of the linux-base ports installed
> and linux_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf?  if not, this will definitely
> cause you all sorts of grief.  if you end up installing a linux-base and
> adding that setting to rc.conf, just be aware that it will take a reboot
> (or some other less drastic wizardry that i don't know) in order for the
> new rc.conf setting to take effect.
> 
> for the record, i'm using linux_base-8 and haven't had any problems
> whatsoever.  some ports (acroread, for example) will ask for a
> different linux_base version but will install anyway. after the install of
> any such program, you just pkgdb -Fu and tell it to depend upon the version
> you have installed.
> 
> give all this a shot and let us know what comes of it.  i'm not sure that
> i've hit upon 'your' problem, but i've got my fingers crossed.
> 
> 
I got linux-opera installed and working. Then I installed 
linux-flashplugin-7.0r25, and opera shows it in its plugin list, but
when I go to view a flash site, the flash is a blank area. I no longer
get the message telling me I haven't got flash installed.

Ideas?

Thanks guys
Bruce

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RE: [WAAAY OT]

2004-07-01 Thread Eric Crist
> I am afraid it doesn't stand for impedance.  It is the symbol
> used for current throughout electromagnetic theory, and I
> don't think it does stand for an English word.
>
> Your are right it is off topic!
>

Actually, it does stand for Intensity, according to the 1812 papers
published by Ohm himself.  This is the word I was looking for.

Thanks.



Eric F Crist
President
AdTech Integrated Systems, Inc
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GBDE

2004-07-01 Thread DrVince
Hi everyone,
is there an ETA for GBDE to move in the stable branch?

Thanks,
DrVince
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Re: tar problem

2004-07-01 Thread Roop Nanuwa
On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 22:28:23 -0400, Bruce Hunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Thanks, I got it to work. How would I include the current system date
> like this.
> 
> #tar -cvf Solisix-$USER.tar Solisix/ <--- with current user..
> 
> I want the date instead..
> 
> #tar -cvf Solisix-$date.tar Solisix/ <-- doesn't work
> 
> I'm still learning.. sorry
> 

What you're doing when you do $USER is bringing in one of the environment
variables. If you type 'env' at a command prompt, you'll see the ones currently
defined. The date isn't one of them. There might be an easier/better way but I
would suggest running the 'date' command inline with the ` character as so:

tar -cvf Solisix-`date '+%d%m%Y'`.tar Solisix

That runs the 'date' command with a particular formatting string and
then puts that
result into the tar command.

--roop
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Problem with gateway and ipfw in FreeBSD 5.2

2004-07-01 Thread Tony Liew
Hi,
Currently I am trying out FreeBSD 5.2.
SDSL modem
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FreeBSD Router
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Internal network

My problem, from FreeBSD I can ping outside and inside network.
from Internal network, I can ping internal interface and external 
interface of FreeBSD Router. But I cannot ping the modem IP address so 
goes public DNS server on the internet.

I have in my KERNEL:
options   BRIDGE
options   DIVERT
options   IPFIREWALL
options   IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT
rc.conf
gateway_enable="YES"
defaultrouter=""
firewall_enable="YES"
firewall_type="OPEN"
natd_interface=""
natd_enable="YES"
router_enable="YES"
sysctl.conf
net.link.ether.bridge.enable=1
net.link.ether.bridge.config=external interface, internal interface
net.link.ether.bridge.ipfw=1
client on the internal network cannot connect to the internet. Any 
suggestion?

Thanks a lot.
Regards,
Tony Liew
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Re: tar problem

2004-07-01 Thread Oliver Fuchs
On Thu, 01 Jul 2004, Bruce Hunter wrote:

> I am trying to archive this directory for backup purposes. I am getting
> this error when trying to create a new tar file. 
> 
> Solisix/
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] su
> Password:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] tar -c Solisix/
> tar: /dev/sa0: Cannot open: Operation not supported
> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
> 
> What is wrong? Permissions? I am root..

Hi,
you have to change the tar -f option:

man tar:
[...]
 -f [hostname:]file
 --file [hostname:]file  Read or write the specified file (default is
 /dev/sa0).  If a hostname is specified, tar will
 use rmt(8) to read or write the specified file on
 a remote machine.  ``-'' may be used as a file-
 name, for reading or writing to/from stdin/std-
 out.
[...]

For example: tar -cvzf /home/me/backup/solisix.baktar.gz /Solasix/files

Oliver
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Re: GBDE

2004-07-01 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Jul 01), DrVince said:
> Hi everyone,
> is there an ETA for GBDE to move in the stable branch?

GBDE is based on GEOM, which is too large of a subsystem to be
backported to 4.x.  It'll be available in -STABLE when the stable tag
gets shifted to the 5.x branch :)

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Re: portupgrade fails on every port, undefined method 'each' for nil:NilClass

2004-07-01 Thread Akinori MUSHA
Hi,

I have just committed a fix against the "undefined method `each' for
nil:NilClass" error that occurs typically when BEFORE_DEINSTALL is not
defined in pkgtools.conf.  Add "BEFORE_DEINSTALL = {}" to your
pkgtools.conf and pkg_deinstall will start working again.

For the "undefined method `>' for #" error, I still
have no idea.  Could you try again with a vanilla pkgtools.conf?

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Re: Gnome installing Mozilla by default

2004-07-01 Thread Bruce Hunter
On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 23:50, epilogue wrote:
> On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 22:40:08 -0400
> Bruce Hunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 2004-07-01 at 16:45, epilogue wrote:
> > > On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 10:46:04 -0700
> > > Dan Finn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 12:03:37 -0400, epilogue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 07:04:47 -0400
> > > > > Aaron Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Roop Nanuwa wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'll join in on the praise for Opera. It really is the best web
> > > > > > > browser that's extremely light but still has all the "modern
> > > > > > > day" features one would expect from a web browser and then
> > > > > > > some. I will warn you about a couple of things, though.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1] The native FreeBSD version is not going to run Flash. I've
> > > > > > > pulled out many, many hairs about this but have never gotten
> > > > > > > the two to work together. If you want to view Flash, then
> > > > > > > install the linux-opera port.
> > > > > > > 2] You'll be spoiled after using Opera for any length of time.
> > > > > > > I've been using Opera for a long time and I simply can't
> > > > > > > tolerate any other browsers. The feature set it provides is so
> > > > > > > expansive that other browsers will seem utterly gutted in
> > > > > > > comparison. Ever use vi for a while and then notice that random
> > > > > > > ':w' or ':wq' start appearing in places where they shouldn't
> > > > > > > because you've gotten so used to the commands? Same idea here.
> > > > > > > 3] The default interface is not for everyone. Just realize that
> > > > > > > the interface is highly configurable so don't let it turn you
> > > > > > > off if it's not to your liking.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --roop
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Just curious, but which version of flash are you using with
> > > > > > Opera?  I did a search of the ports tree and found quite a few
> > > > > > flash ports and was confused on which one to install.
> > > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > um, this one...
> > > > > 
> > > > > ~> pkg_info | grep -i flash
> > > > > 
> > > > > linux-flashplugin-7.0r25 The official Macromedia Flash Player for
> > > > > Linux Mozilla and
> > > > > 
> > > > > hth,
> > > > > epi
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > all this talk of opera got me interested so I thought I would go
> > > > ahead and install it.
> > > > 
> > > > a "make install" of /usr/ports/www/linux-opera seemed to work fine. 
> > > > I get this when I try and run it:
> > > > 
> > > > [ dfinn @ stewie : ~] : linux-opera 
> > > > opera: Could not initialize spell checker interface. File not found
> > > > or could not be opened (-7)
> > > > Segmentation fault (core dumped)
> > > 
> > > well, i've never run into this problem before, but the ports have a
> > > tendency to change from day to day and funny things can happen.
> > > 
> > > my guess is that the linux-aspell (ports/textproc) dependency wasn't
> > > installed.  try adding that and see what happens.
> > > 
> > > also, just to be certain, do you have one of the linux-base ports
> > > installed and linux_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf?  if not, this will
> > > definitely cause you all sorts of grief.  if you end up installing a
> > > linux-base and adding that setting to rc.conf, just be aware that it
> > > will take a reboot(or some other less drastic wizardry that i don't
> > > know) in order for the new rc.conf setting to take effect.
> > > 
> > > for the record, i'm using linux_base-8 and haven't had any problems
> > > whatsoever.  some ports (acroread, for example) will ask for a
> > > different linux_base version but will install anyway. after the install
> > > of any such program, you just pkgdb -Fu and tell it to depend upon the
> > > version you have installed.
> > > 
> > > give all this a shot and let us know what comes of it.  i'm not sure
> > > that i've hit upon 'your' problem, but i've got my fingers crossed.
> > > 
> > > 
> > I got linux-opera installed and working. Then I installed 
> > linux-flashplugin-7.0r25, and opera shows it in its plugin list, but
> > when I go to view a flash site, the flash is a blank area. I no longer
> > get the message telling me I haven't got flash installed.
> 
> hello again,
> 
> well, jsyk, the flash plugin doesn't work 100% of the time.  so far, i
> haven't bumped into too many problematic sites, however ymwv.
> 
> please send me the URL you're visiting.  i'll give it a whirl on my end
> and let you know what kind of results i get.  if it doesn't work on my end,
> we'll probably both have to wait for the next version of flash from
> macromedia (not opera's fault and should give the same poor results in
> firefox, moz, galeon, etc).  if it does work on my end, i'll help you to
> determine the problem as best i can.
> 
> ep
> 
http://www.mlcompany.net is the url
Hmm..

Bruce

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Re: [WAAAY OT]

2004-07-01 Thread Nico Meijer
Hi Eric,
> Reason for my question was that a buddy asked me as a trivia
question.  Bet me $50 I couldn't figure it out... [snip]
So I guess the FreeBSD Foundation has a donation coming their way? ;-)
Bye... Nico
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Re: IP bandwidth

2004-07-01 Thread Arek Czereszewski
John Lee wrote:
dear all,
i'm using a freebsd 4.10-stable server with 50 IP addresses.
Is there any program i can install that will be able to tell me:
- how much bandwidth (ie. kbps) each individual IP is using?
trafcount seems to count total traffic only, any idea?
I.e.
ipfw + rrdtools or mrtg
from ports (net-mgnt):
netramet,  bandwidthd
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Problems with UDMA harddisks

2004-07-01 Thread Peter Ulrich Kruppa
Hi!
I hope somebody on this list has another good idea, I haven't 
thought of yet:

I have a machine that came with two Excel Stor 40 GB ("Ganymede") 
UDMA/100 harddisks.
To install FreeBSD 4.10 I had to disable UDMA in the BIOS, 
otherwise they wouldn't have booted (some complaint about ata0).
Of course I wish to get UDMA working, since this is said to 
improve perfomance significantly. 
I checked if the UDMA cable is plugged into the correct places 
for mainboard, master and slave - this is o.k. .

Are there any other things (bios settings, kernel modules, magic 
chants,...) I could try?

Thanks,
Uli.
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Re: IP bandwidth

2004-07-01 Thread Radu MOLNAR

John Lee wrote:
dear all,
i'm using a freebsd 4.10-stable server with 50 IP addresses.
Is there any program i can install that will be able to tell me:
- how much bandwidth (ie. kbps) each individual IP is using?
trafcount seems to count total traffic only, any idea?
I.e.
ipfw + rrdtools or mrtg
from ports (net-mgnt):
netramet,  bandwidthd
Any of these make real time statistics like iptraf under linux. I also 
need something like this for both general interface (realtime) statistics 
and for traffic monitorring (i can use tcpdump for this but it would be 
nice to have both caracteristics in one program).

Radu

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ttyin

2004-07-01 Thread ray
when i enabled xdm for graphical login , in my eterm window, i can su - root fine 
locally, but when i ssh to my other machine and su to root i am gettin:


 cmd: su 10097 [ttyin] 0.02u 0.04s 0% 1204k
load: 0.08  cmd: su 10097 [ttyin] 0.02u 0.04s 0% 1204k

i tried in aterm and xterm and it works fine when i try to su root , i googled and i 
think it's in stty issue but i dont have any clues.
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solved amavisd-new and postfix issue

2004-07-01 Thread dave
Hello,
My thanks to everyone who has helped me over these past few days. I did
a total reinstall and clean configuration of postfix and amavisd-new, i did
not get the error about the dictionaries again, but this time i got a
message from amavisd:
denied access to 192.168.0.3
for some reason amavisd likes it when postfix is bound to all IP's, switched
the inet_interfaces parameter and it appears to be working. I'm going to
give it a day or two before doing anything else with it, i want to ensure
everything works before i start doing more and catch up on some other
projects gone neglected over the past couple of days.
As for the original dictionary problem i don't have a clue, a fluke, an
extra space? Or just my luck?
Anyway, my thanks to everyone.
Dave.

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