Re: UFS2 with Soft Updates Robust?

2004-12-22 Thread John Conover
Erik Trulsson writes:
> On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 08:57:00PM -0900, Damien Hull wrote:
> > On Tue, 2004-12-21 at 21:31 -0500, Chuck Swiger wrote:
> > > John Conover wrote:
> > > > Is UFS2 with soft updates the most robust file system in freebsd?
> > > 
> > > No, although UFS2 with softupdates is robust enough for production use.
> > > 
> > > If you make the filesystem writes syncronous and disable write caching on 
> > > the 
> > > hard drive, you will improve the robustness at significant cost to 
> > > performance.
> > > 
> > 
> > Are you saying that the UFS2 file system sucks?
> 
> Not at all, but standard IDE-drives suck when it comes to robustness.
> (They tend to lie and tell the OS that data has been written to the
> disk, when in reality it has only been written to the disks cache.)
> (Thus the advice above to turn off write-caching for maximum
> robustness.)
> 
> If you use softupdates (on a disk that doesn't lie) the filesystem on
> the disk will always be consistent, but data written during the last 30
> seconds or so might not yet have been written to the disk, and can therefore
> be lost if e.g. the power to the computer is turned off.
>

Erik, does that mean if you use softupdates, (on a SCSI,) that,
although file(s) currently being written may be truncated since the
cache is not flushed, that the file system can be repaired
automatically by fsck to a consistent state?

Even without synchronous writes or enabling cache write through?

John

BTW, the reason for the question is that most SCSIs today have many
meg of HW cache, and many, (maybe most,) controllers don't permit
write through anymore. So, even if the OS flushes its cache, the HW
cache may not be written to the disk-so synchronous writes and OS
cache write through may be of little value.

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Re: The FreeBSD Foundation

2004-12-22 Thread Jay Moore
On Wednesday 22 December 2004 11:02 am, Troy Mills wrote:
> 
> As some of you may or may not know the FreeBSD Foundation supports the
> FreeBSD developers financially via funds mainly from donations from
> the public. Anyway there is a IRS "1/3rd test" for "public support"
> and the current foundation ratio that is a little out of whack due to
> a few generous people donating large sums of money. I have no idea
> what will happen if they cannot remain a public charity but I'm sure
> the affects wont be positive as they clearly stated that it is in
> there interest to remain a public charity.
>
> I'm in no position to be shelling out lots of money right now but I'm
> going to do my part and I would hope that some of you chip in as well.
> from my understanding they need a larger number of people donating a
> smaller amount to correct the ratio.


QUESTION: Do sales of the FreeBSD CDs support the project? And if so, now?

I thought I _was_ supporting the project through my CD subscription... I was 
not aware of the FreeBSD Foundation (thanks for the enlightenment), but 
financial support for software developers of any kind seems a bit of a 
stretch for a "charity". Perhaps I'm just not in tune with the legal 
definition of a charity.

Jay 
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Where to report successful hardware configurations

2004-12-22 Thread Mark Rowlands
I recently got the opportunity to get a Lacie external firewire disk and
interface card
cheap. I configured firewire into my kernel, rebooted, and was
pleased...and surprised
when it actually worked. I was surprised because extensive trawling of
google and the
bsd mailing lists gave no indication of whether it would or wouldd not
work.


So the question is

Where do you report such happy accidents so that this can be documented
as functional?
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Re: UFS2 with Soft Updates Robust?

2004-12-22 Thread John Conover
Damien Hull writes:
> On Tue, 2004-12-21 at 21:31 -0500, Chuck Swiger wrote:
> > John Conover wrote:
> > > Is UFS2 with soft updates the most robust file system in freebsd?
> > 
> > No, although UFS2 with softupdates is robust enough for production use.
> > 
> > If you make the filesystem writes syncronous and disable write caching on 
> > the 
> > hard drive, you will improve the robustness at significant cost to 
> > performance.
> > 
> 
> Are you saying that the UFS2 file system sucks? If so what options does
> one have? 
> 
> I've read that softupdates should be turned on. How much of a
> performance loss will I see if I turn softupates off?
>

Oh, no, not at all, Damien-I consider UFS/FFS quite sturdy. I put it
in a PC with softupdates on, (and no other options, like cache write
through, synchronous writes, etc.,) and for 30 minutes cycled the
machine's power switch 15 times, hitting the power as soon as fsck
started, etc. to see if I could induce an exception/fault scenario
with something it couldn't fix auto'magically. Also, I hit the power
switch with a dozen cat /dev/zero > bigfile1, ..., processes,
too-after they had filled up about 20G of spinning real estate.

UFS/FFS withstood the abuse well.

So I have been told, for maximum reliability/durability, cache write
through should be enabled, along with synchronous writes-albeit at a
substantial speed penalty, (I don't know how much-that's a test for
another day.)

So far, I've done this on about a half dozen open source OS
distributions, and one Sys V Rel. 4 with Veritas journaling FS.

FreeBSD and Veritas are the only two that survived.

John

For the record, the box is an Intel reference MB, and an Adaptec
2940UW, with a Fujitsu 35G SCSI drive. All out of the box default
settings. No RAID.

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Xorg & xdm & securelevels

2004-12-22 Thread Mark
Hello.

I realise this may have been covered before and that this may not
be the correct list (freebsd-x11 seemed to be more about developement
rather than configuration) but anyway:

I would like to push my securelevel up to 1 in order to better enforce
my security policy (protecting chflags, kernel modules etc) but this
of course would break Xorg as it requires access to /dev/io. I've
heard that it's possible to run Xorg via xdm whilst the system is
booting at securelevel 0 and have the securelevel raised afterwards,
effectively allowing X to live in a securelevel > 0 environment.

How painful is this to implement? Am I likely to run into any
major problems?

I've also heard that it's possible to remove the SUID bit from X
by using xdm, but that's probably for another thread...

Any comments, advice, pointers to articles or screams of distaste
are welcomed.

Mark 

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Re: UFS2 with Soft Updates Robust?

2004-12-22 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 08:57:00PM -0900, Damien Hull wrote:
> On Tue, 2004-12-21 at 21:31 -0500, Chuck Swiger wrote:
> > John Conover wrote:
> > > Is UFS2 with soft updates the most robust file system in freebsd?
> > 
> > No, although UFS2 with softupdates is robust enough for production use.
> > 
> > If you make the filesystem writes syncronous and disable write caching on 
> > the 
> > hard drive, you will improve the robustness at significant cost to 
> > performance.
> > 
> 
> Are you saying that the UFS2 file system sucks?

Not at all, but standard IDE-drives suck when it comes to robustness.
(They tend to lie and tell the OS that data has been written to the
disk, when in reality it has only been written to the disks cache.)
(Thus the advice above to turn off write-caching for maximum
robustness.)

If you use softupdates (on a disk that doesn't lie) the filesystem on
the disk will always be consistent, but data written during the last 30
seconds or so might not yet have been written to the disk, and can therefore
be lost if e.g. the power to the computer is turned off.


> If so what options does
> one have? 

If UFS2 + softupdates + decent hardware is not sufficiently robust for
you there is little else you can do. (Unless you take Chuck Swiger's
advice above and mount the filesystem synchronously and turn off
the writecache which should give a slight increase in robustness at the
cost of a huge drop in write-performance.)

> 
> I've read that softupdates should be turned on. How much of a
> performance loss will I see if I turn softupates off?

Depends. For read performance you should not see any difference.
For write performance it will depend both on your hardware and how much
load you put on the disks.


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Re: Copying a directory hierarchy

2004-12-22 Thread owner
Another variation:
tar cf - -C /source/path directory | tar xf - -C /destination/path
On Dec 23, 2004, at 12:16 AM, Joseph wrote:

 How does on copy a complete directory hierarchy, including any 
hidden
 files?
cd /path
tar cf - . | (cd /other/path; tar -xf -)
works like a charm.
joe
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Re: UFS2 with Soft Updates Robust?

2004-12-22 Thread Damien Hull
On Tue, 2004-12-21 at 21:31 -0500, Chuck Swiger wrote:
> John Conover wrote:
> > Is UFS2 with soft updates the most robust file system in freebsd?
> 
> No, although UFS2 with softupdates is robust enough for production use.
> 
> If you make the filesystem writes syncronous and disable write caching on the 
> hard drive, you will improve the robustness at significant cost to 
> performance.
> 

Are you saying that the UFS2 file system sucks? If so what options does
one have? 

I've read that softupdates should be turned on. How much of a
performance loss will I see if I turn softupates off?


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Re: Armada 17xx, ACPI thermal management broken.

2004-12-22 Thread Uwe Laverenz
On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 02:05:29PM -0600, Nikolas Britton wrote:

> How?, I added it to my kernel "device apm", "device pmtimer", and 
> "device amp_saver" and rebuilt it and in rc.conf I added 
> apm_enable="YES", apmd_enable="YES" and I greped though 

I think you would also have to disable ACPI. This could be done by
adding hint.acpi.0.disabled="1" to /boot/device.hints.

> I want ACPI!, APM is a last ditch hack to me, the name says it all 
> "Advanced Configuration and Power Interface" there is a reason they 
> switched to it. The 440BX chipset has full support for ACPI and 
> therefore should work with FreeBSD and is a critical problem, what do 
> you think might happen if you disable all your fans on your computer???. 

As I said: I might be wrong, but I think the Armada simply is too old
for a correct implementation of ACPI, it was build for APM. So, the
problem is not FreeBSD, it's the Armada.

> Please note that I'm not trying to diss FreeBSD in anyway for it being 
> broken as I understand the issues with the DSDT, AML, and ASL stuff, I 
> just want it to work.

Other system would also show this problem, the fan never starts to work
under Linux (tested FC3 a few weeks ago).

I really don't know if it's possible to get ACPI+FreeBSD 5.x+Armada 1750
to work, I can only say that it worked perfectly with FreeBSD 4.x
and APM. And I can say that FreeBSD+ACPI works great on newer notebooks
(evo N160, IBM Thinkpad...).

cu,
Uwe

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Re: VIM

2004-12-22 Thread Matt Navarre
On Wednesday 22 December 2004 05:40 pm, Joshua Tinnin wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 07:35:58PM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I have installed a VIM editor.
> > > When I create a new file with this editor, I can't type anything.
> > > What is wrong.
> >
> > I have not used VIM - installed it once, but never really used it.
> > But, it is basically like vi to use, I think. I have a very basic vi
> > HowTo that I wrote up for our sites.  It might help you get started.
> >
> > It is at:   http://scnc.k12.mi.us/howto/edit/vi.html
>
> I personally love vim. You can also try emacs, but you might as well get
> used to vi if you're going to run any *nix - vim is basically vi
> extended, although it will operate exactly like vi for the purists if
> you configure it to do that. It's not intuitive, but once you get used
> to it it's very efficient. I use it for all sorts of editing, including
> composing email in Mutt.  Joshua Lokken posted some good vim tutorials,
> and there's another one here: http://www.linuxgazette.com/node/9039
>
> Here's another vi tutorial:
> http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2001/10/25/FreeBSD_Basics.html

And, of course, there's always /usr/local/bin/vimtutor which is vim's 
'canonical' tutorial. Any vi tutorial will teach you the basics of what you 
need to know about vim, but vim is *so much more*, once you get the vi basics 
under your fingers.

>
> - jt
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Re: Copying a directory hierarchy

2004-12-22 Thread Joseph


> > >  How does on copy a complete directory hierarchy, including any hidden
> > >  files?

cd /path
tar cf - . | (cd /other/path; tar -xf -)

works like a charm.

joe
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Re: Switching FreeBSD machines

2004-12-22 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:27:18 -0500
RL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi. I have FBSD 5.3 on one machine. I'm thinking of buying a Dell
> 420SC Server and would want to use FreeBSD on that. I went through a
> hard time getting things to work on my current machine such as Java
> and maybe a few other things, so I really would rather not start
> from scratch. And I don't want to swap hard-drives because the Dell
> comes with a nice Serial ATA drive I want to use. My only option
> might be to clone the old FBSD box using g4Unix and putting it on
> the Dell. Would kind of problems and headaches would I have with
> that?
> 
> Edit: Current machine is an Athlon and Dell server is a P4.

Well there are a few problems and a few possible problems. If you move
the drive another machine and it's place is changed, you will need to
edit /etc/fstab. This is easy to do though. The big problem comes in
if you compiled any tihng AMD specific into any thing. If you just
left it at the default settings or set it to 686 or the like, you
should be fine.

For copying just look at dd. If moving to a different size of drive,
just create the partitions, mount them, and then copy the stuff over.

What problem you running into with java?

No clue about g4unix since I've never heard of it before. I would just
do as I mentioned above.
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Re: Sendmail: host name lookup failure

2004-12-22 Thread Paul A. Hoadley
On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 10:54:42PM +1030, Paul A. Hoadley wrote:

> I have actually solved the problem.  I intend to post a summary for
> the archive when I return to the site later in the week, at which
> time I'll be able to identify the OS/nameserver combination at
> fault.

I am told it's running Windows 2000 DNS Server.  Presumably that's
Microsoft's own DNS implementation built into Windows 2000.

> Here's a teaser, though: it's a Microsoft product (I just don't know
> which), and it's returing SERVFAIL status for a  record query.

Sometimes it behaves:

> dig tsb.coremedicalsolutions.com. 

; <<>> DiG 9.3.0 <<>> tsb.coremedicalsolutions.com. 
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 8959
;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;tsb.coremedicalsolutions.com.  IN  

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
coremedicalsolutions.com. 3600  IN  SOA 
archibald2.coremedicalsolutions.com. marc.coremedicalsolutions.com. 1480 900 
600 86400 3600

;; Query time: 281 msec
;; SERVER: 192.168.10.2#53(192.168.10.2)
;; WHEN: Thu Dec 23 15:03:23 2004
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 98

But sendmail seems intent on asking for just about every permutation
on each domain name invovled, so sometimes it returns the bogus
answer:

> dig tsb 

; <<>> DiG 9.3.0 <<>> tsb 
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 43109
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;tsb.   IN  

;; Query time: 245 msec
;; SERVER: 192.168.10.2#53(192.168.10.2)
;; WHEN: Thu Dec 23 15:04:42 2004
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 21

(By 'sometimes' I don't mean it's non-deterministic.  Every time
sendmail asks for the  record of an unqualified hostname, the
nameserver responds with SERVFAIL.)

The consequence of this is that sendmail repeatedly defers delivery
until the mail expires.

> Curiously, sendmail's WorkAroundBroken option did not help, and
> I don't know why.  Daryl Tester suggested using a mailertable entry,
> and this worked.

I still don't know why WorkAroundBroken isn't working in this
case.


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acpi problems on boot with new usb device. 5.3-R

2004-12-22 Thread Stephen P. Cravey
I just got a new usb 8-in-1 media reader and when it is plugged into my
motherboard, my boot cycle hangs at:

npx0: [FAST]
npx0:  on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
acpi0:  on motherboard

Normally, a:

acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000

would come next, however it's completely hung.

I can plug the device into my motherboard after boot (once i've
booted without it) and it seems to work fine until I need to reboot and
then it hangs again.

'camcontrol devilist' shows 4 lines for it:

  at scbus1 target 0 lun 0
(da0,pass0)

  at scbus1 target 0
lun 1 (da1,pass1)

  at scbus1
target 0 lun 2 (da2,pass2)

  at
scbus1 target 0 lun 3 (da3,pass3) 

'acpidump -t -d' gives me :

"acpidump: RSDT entry 2 (sig OEMB) is corrupt"

among an otherwise normal looking dump.

I have a ASUS p4p800 deluxe motherboard running 5.3-RELEASE-p2
my usb controller dmesg lines look like:
Intel 82801EB (ICH5) USB controller USB-A

What other debugging steps do I need to perform for this?

-Stephen
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Ndisulator - Linksys wireless-g PCI card

2004-12-22 Thread Jon Knight
Hi everyone,

 

I have a wireless-g PCI Card Linksys WMP54G.  Just installed FreeBSD 5.3
from CD.  I'm trying to get this to work and talk to my access point which
is also Linksys.  I followed the instructions to compile the windows .inf
and .sys into .h, .ko, .o.  Did a 'make' on ndis as per instructions from a
website I googled (I think it was http://www.xl0.org/FreeBSD/ndis.txt).  I
can see ndis0 in ifconfig, I can specify ifconfig ndis0 inet 192.168.0.8
netmask 255.255.255.0.  Turned off wep on my AP to make things easier.  Set
the SSID.  

 

Now when I type ifconfig ndis0 media autoselect, nothing happens.
Everything looks okay, I can locally ping the interface 192.168.0.8.  I
cannot wicontrol and list the local ap however.  When I type ifconfig ndis0
mediaopt adhoc it says ndis0 link up.  I try ifconfig ndis0 media autoselect
and link is down.  What's up with that (no pun intended) ?

 

Many thanks

Cheers,

Jon

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Re: Bandwith info command

2004-12-22 Thread B. Hansson
Ben Washington-Yule skrev:
What command can I use to see what is using the bandwith on my 56kbs 
dialup internet connection?

Kind of like bandwithd.
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Bandwith info command

2004-12-22 Thread Ben Washington-Yule
What command can I use to see what is using the bandwith on my 56kbs 
dialup internet connection?

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Re: Problem with tar archive

2004-12-22 Thread afabian
On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 12:07:05PM +0100, freebsd_daemon wrote:
> Dear list,
> 
> # tar xvf ./varia.tar
> ../varia/
> tar: ../varia/: Member name contains `..'

> Is there a way to un-tar that archive despite of that?

pax -r -s '#^\.\.\/##' varia.tar
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Re: pcmcia wireless

2004-12-22 Thread K. Greenwood

--- Joshua Lokken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 09:54:15 -0700,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> >   hello,
> > 
> >   i am using the 5.0 dist, and i cant get it to
> read my pcmcia ethernet
> >   card. it is rather old card with a cat-5
> connector on it for plugging
> >   into my router. it is called ositech trumpcard
> and it is the jack of
> >   dimonds model  the card works because i tried it
> on the same computer
> >   before loading freebsd and i could surf the net
> with it. is there a
> >   driver avaliable for this card or should i go
> get a wirless one? (i
> >   cant find any cabled ones) if i need to get a
> wireless one, what brand
> >   do you recomend? i do have a wirless g router
> here.
> 
> I don't know much about wireless technology or
> setting it up
> on FreeBSD, however, you're likely to be asked "Why
> 5.0?  
> It is no longer supported, and is quite old.  Have
> you got
> specific reasons for not going with 5.3, which is
> the production
> release?"  So I'll just get that out of the way
> ;)


As was well said above, I also know little about
wireless.  And I certainly have little clue regarding
your ositech card.  I'm somewhat of a newbie.

That being said, if you intend on purchasing a
wireless card... you may wish to go for a certain
manufacturer.  I have been sucessful with NetGear's
WG511v1 which uses the "Intersil" chipset (note 32bit
cardbus... "newer" notebook required).  

"Project Evil" did not work at all with a Linksys
WMP54GS (PCI) which was using the Broadcom chipset.

If it helps, I experienced this angst in the following
thread.  

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-October/059938.html

While Eric's suggestions helped little with the
broadcom chipset, it was great once I actually got a
supported card.  BTW, I would only recommend that you
try this with FreeBSD 5.3.  Good luck with any other!




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Re: Switching FreeBSD machines

2004-12-22 Thread Doug Poland
On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 08:27:18PM -0500, RL wrote:
> Hi. I have FBSD 5.3 on one machine. I'm thinking of buying a Dell
> 420SC Server and would want to use FreeBSD on that. I went through a
> hard time getting things to work on my current machine such as Java
> and maybe a few other things, so I really would rather not start from
> scratch. And I don't want to swap hard-drives because the Dell comes
> with a nice Serial ATA drive I want to use. My only option might be to
> clone the old FBSD box using g4Unix and putting it on the Dell. Would
> kind of problems and headaches would I have with that?
> 
If you're tracking 5-STABLE, I would bring your current machine
up-to-date with STABLE and portupgrade all ports.  Then, create
packages out of all your ports (man pkg_create, pay attention to -b
switch).  Create .tar files of your home directory, /etc/mail,
/etc/namedb, and anything else you care about that's taken some time to
configure.  

One thing I do on all my boxes is use RCS for all config files.  It's a
simple and quick step to create a .tar out of all these directories
scattered about a box.  I back these files up regularly.  If I need to
rebuild a box, it's a simple OS install, whatever ports are needed, and
retrieve my config files from a tar.

On your new box, bring it up-to-date with -STABLE, and install packages
you created above.  Selectively un-tar above files as needed.

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Regards,
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Re: FreeBSD as a DSL modem?

2004-12-22 Thread Conrad J. Sabatier
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:17:36 -0600, Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello Beastie!
> 
> If I hadn't told you lately, I LOVE YOU!
> 
> Here's my question:  Is it possible to configure FreeBSD (5.3) to ACT
> as a DSL modem?
> 
> I use an Efficient Networks SpeedStream 5360, using PPoE.  But I've
> had to replace the modem more than once.  Currently everything is
> working nicely, but I'm anxious about the next failure.
> 
> What I'd like to do is setup a PC to act as router, firewall, AND dsl 
> intermediary so that I can put my working DSL modem on the shelf for 
> emergencies.
> 
> Any pointers are appreciated.

Are you saying you want FreeBSD to *emulate* a DSL modem, without the
actual hardware?

I don't think that's currently possible.  But I could be wrong.

> P.S.  I built a website recently for a good paying client.  They loved
> the website, but requested that I remove the "beastie" daemon (Powered
> by FreeBSD) because they thought the image might be offensive to their
> christian clients.
> 
> I refused, of course.  
> 
> I love christians, but I just can't cotton to fools!

Good for you!  :-)

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FreeBSD as a DSL modem?

2004-12-22 Thread Lane
Hello Beastie!

If I hadn't told you lately, I LOVE YOU!

Here's my question:  Is it possible to configure FreeBSD (5.3) to ACT as a DSL 
modem?

I use an Efficient Networks SpeedStream 5360, using PPoE.  But I've had to 
replace the modem more than once.  Currently everything is working nicely, 
but I'm anxious about the next failure.

What I'd like to do is setup a PC to act as router, firewall, AND dsl 
intermediary so that I can put my working DSL modem on the shelf for 
emergencies.

Any pointers are appreciated.

lane
P.S.  I built a website recently for a good paying client.  They loved the 
website, but requested that I remove the "beastie" daemon (Powered by 
FreeBSD) because they thought the image might be offensive to their christian 
clients.

I refused, of course.  

I love christians, but I just can't cotton to fools!
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RE: Explore FreeBSD filesystem under Windows?

2004-12-22 Thread P.B.S.
ffsdrv seems to be able to mount only the first slice.
I couldn't get it mount any other slice after playing with it for some time.


# df -h
Filesystem SizeUsed   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/ad4s1a496M124M332M27%/
devfs  1.0K1.0K  0B   100%/dev
/dev/ad4s1e248M110K228M 0%/tmp
/dev/ad4s1f 18G 14G2.6G84%/usr
/dev/ad4s1d248M 63M165M27%/var
/dev/ad4s3  42G 29G 13G69%/mnt/c
/dev/ad4s5 172G161G 12G93%/mnt/d

Mounts /dev/ad4s1a only. I need /usr/home/ (ad4s1f).
Any ideas?
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Re: Mirros Via Bittorrent

2004-12-22 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 09:33:09PM -0400, John Theriault wrote:
> I was wondering if you have ever thought of distributing FreeBSD
> though Bittorrent. If so I may be able to mirror it for you on a
> global site.

Yes, and the last release was distributed that way.  See the release
announcement.

Kris

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Re: Switching FreeBSD machines

2004-12-22 Thread RL
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:54:32 -0600, Kristian Kielhofner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> RL wrote:
> > It is a P4 2.8GHZ, 256MB RAM, 80GB Serial ATA hard-drive.  I might
> > just start from scratch.  I just got a bad feeling I will run into
> > problems. The biggest pain in the ass was getting Java to work on my
> > old system.  Besides that, I don't have any critical on my old system
> > that I wouldn't mind starting from scratch again.
> 
> RL,
> 
> Sometimes that's fun to do anyways.  Why didn't you do the free 
> upgrade
> to 512mb?
> 
> --
> Kristian Kielhofner
> 

There was a free upgrade to 512MB?? I didn't see that.
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Re: Switching FreeBSD machines

2004-12-22 Thread RL
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:43:44 -0600, Kristian Kielhofner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> RL wrote:
> > On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:31:53 -0600, Kristian Kielhofner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> >
> >>RL wrote:
> >>
> >>>Hi. I have FBSD 5.3 on one machine. I'm thinking of buying a Dell
> >>>420SC Server and would want to use FreeBSD on that. I went through a
> >>>hard time getting things to work on my current machine such as Java
> >>>and maybe a few other things, so I really would rather not start from
> >>>scratch. And I don't want to swap hard-drives because the Dell comes
> >>>with a nice Serial ATA drive I want to use. My only option might be to
> >>>clone the old FBSD box using g4Unix and putting it on the Dell. Would
> >>>kind of problems and headaches would I have with that?
> >>>
> >>>Edit: Current machine is an Athlon and Dell server is a P4.
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> >>I hope you saw that the SC420 is going for under $250 right now!
> >>Anyways, you could always try to manually partition the new drive (in
> >>the 420) install the bootloader, and then rsync everything over.  I have
> >>done that many times with FreeBSD and Linux, and as long as you have a
> >>kernel that supports the HD controllers on both, you should be fine.  A
> >>FreeBSD live cd should help, but you don't necessarily need it.
> >>
> >>--
> >>Kristian Kielhofner
> >>
> >
> >
> > Yeah that is about what I got it for (actually over $300.)  Now would
> > ghosting it (with g4u) work?  I'm thinking I might have a lot of
> > issues because stuff was compiled for an Athlon and I'm moving to a
> > P4.
> 
> Hmm... What did you get in it?  Anyways, you could use g4u, but I really
> think that the rsync method will be faster and more reliable anyways.
> If your binaries have been compiled for Athlon then you could have some
> problems on a P4.  That is why I compile everything for 686 - I know
> that it is going to work no matter what recent processor I put it on,
> and I am not much of a believer in "optimizing".
> 
> You could rebuild the system and them portupgrade -aRr (after you
> modify /etc/make.conf, of course).
> 
> --
> Kristian Kielhofner
> 
> 

It is a P4 2.8GHZ, 256MB RAM, 80GB Serial ATA hard-drive.  I might
just start from scratch.  I just got a bad feeling I will run into
problems. The biggest pain in the ass was getting Java to work on my
old system.  Besides that, I don't have any critical on my old system
that I wouldn't mind starting from scratch again.
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Re: Switching FreeBSD machines

2004-12-22 Thread Kristian Kielhofner
RL wrote:
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:31:53 -0600, Kristian Kielhofner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
RL wrote:
Hi. I have FBSD 5.3 on one machine. I'm thinking of buying a Dell
420SC Server and would want to use FreeBSD on that. I went through a
hard time getting things to work on my current machine such as Java
and maybe a few other things, so I really would rather not start from
scratch. And I don't want to swap hard-drives because the Dell comes
with a nice Serial ATA drive I want to use. My only option might be to
clone the old FBSD box using g4Unix and putting it on the Dell. Would
kind of problems and headaches would I have with that?
Edit: Current machine is an Athlon and Dell server is a P4.
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I hope you saw that the SC420 is going for under $250 right now!
Anyways, you could always try to manually partition the new drive (in
the 420) install the bootloader, and then rsync everything over.  I have
done that many times with FreeBSD and Linux, and as long as you have a
kernel that supports the HD controllers on both, you should be fine.  A
FreeBSD live cd should help, but you don't necessarily need it.
--
Kristian Kielhofner

Yeah that is about what I got it for (actually over $300.)  Now would
ghosting it (with g4u) work?  I'm thinking I might have a lot of
issues because stuff was compiled for an Athlon and I'm moving to a
P4.
Hmm... What did you get in it?  Anyways, you could use g4u, but I really 
think that the rsync method will be faster and more reliable anyways. 
If your binaries have been compiled for Athlon then you could have some 
problems on a P4.  That is why I compile everything for 686 - I know 
that it is going to work no matter what recent processor I put it on, 
and I am not much of a believer in "optimizing".

	You could rebuild the system and them portupgrade -aRr (after you 
modify /etc/make.conf, of course).

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Re: VIM

2004-12-22 Thread Joshua Tinnin
On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 07:35:58PM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I have installed a VIM editor.
> > When I create a new file with this editor, I can't type anything.
> > What is wrong.
> 
> I have not used VIM - installed it once, but never really used it.
> But, it is basically like vi to use, I think. I have a very basic vi HowTo 
> that I wrote up for our sites.  It might help you get started.
> 
> It is at:   http://scnc.k12.mi.us/howto/edit/vi.html

I personally love vim. You can also try emacs, but you might as well get
used to vi if you're going to run any *nix - vim is basically vi
extended, although it will operate exactly like vi for the purists if
you configure it to do that. It's not intuitive, but once you get used
to it it's very efficient. I use it for all sorts of editing, including
composing email in Mutt.  Joshua Lokken posted some good vim tutorials,
and there's another one here: http://www.linuxgazette.com/node/9039

Here's another vi tutorial: 
http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2001/10/25/FreeBSD_Basics.html

- jt
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5.3R and 3ware 9500s hang

2004-12-22 Thread Joseph

hello there's.

i'm building a new machine to run freebsd 5.3 with two 3ware 9500s-12MI cards. i
installed the OS before i connected the drives, and since i have connected them,
the system hangs on boot. the system also hangs on boot directly from the
install cd with the drives connected. i have only a cd drive connected to the
onboard ide, no floppy, and the onboard scsi is disabled via jumper.

other hardware is: supermicro X6DH8-XG2 motherboard (E7520 chipset), two 3.6GHz
xeon, 4GB ram, two 36gb 10k sata drives mirrored, and 12x 300gb sata drives.
there's also an IPMI card, but it's likely irrelevant to this question.

i've already cvsup'ed and installed 5.3R-p2 and a new kernel (with the carp
patches). i can boot in safe mode and operate fine, but with only one cpu. i've
disabled ACPI in device.hints (can't boot with ACPI enabled), and i've tried
setting the following in loader.conf, which i read is the same as safe mode:

hw.ata.ata_dma=0
hw.ata.atapi_dma=0
hw.ata.wc=0
hw.eisa_slots=0

i've tried using the twa.ko from 3ware, both release and development, and using
the sources to compile a kernel, which fails at twa compilation.

both 3ware cards have the same bios and firmware, which are:
Firmware FE9X 2.04.00.005, BIOS BE9X 2.03.01.047

during verbose boot, the last part of the messages are:

ata1: reiniting channel ..
ata1: reset tp1 mask=03 ostat0=50 ostat1=01
ata1-master: stat=0x00 err=0x01 lsb=0x14 msb=0xeb
ata1-slave:  stat=0x01 err=0x04 lsb=0x04 msb=0x7f
ata1: reset tp2 stat0=00 stat1=01 devices=0x4
ata1: resetting done ..
ata1: reiniting channel ..
ata1-master: FAILURE - ATAPI_IDENTIFY timed out
(probe15:twa0:0:16:0): CAM Status 0x39
(probe15:twa0:0:16:0): Retrying Command
(probe31:twa1:0:16:0): CAM Status 0x39
(probe31:twa1:0:16:0): Retrying Command
(probe15:twa0:0:16:0): CAM Status 0x39
(probe15:twa0:0:16:0): Retrying Command
(probe31:twa1:0:16:0): CAM Status 0x39
(probe31:twa1:0:16:0): Retrying Command
(probe15:twa0:0:16:0): CAM Status 0x39
(probe15:twa0:0:16:0): Retrying Command
(probe31:twa1:0:16:0): CAM Status 0x39
(probe31:twa1:0:16:0): Retrying Command
(probe15:twa0:0:16:0): CAM Status 0x39
(probe15:twa0:0:16:0): Retrying Command
(probe31:twa1:0:16:0): CAM Status 0x39
(probe31:twa1:0:16:0): Retrying Command
(probe15:twa0:0:16:0): error 5
(probe15:twa0:0:16:0): Retries Exhausted
(probe31:twa1:0:16:0): error 5
(probe31:twa1:0:16:0): Retries Exhausted
ata1: reiniting channel ..
ata1-master: FAILURE - ATAPI_IDENTIFY timed out
ata1: device config done ..
ata1-master: FAILURE - ATAPI_IDENTIFY timed out
(probe15:twa0:0:16:0): CAM Status 0x39
(probe15:twa0:0:16:0): Retrying Command
(probe31:twa1:0:16:0): CAM Status 0x39
(probe31:twa1:0:16:0): Retrying Command
(probe15:twa0:0:16:0): CAM Status 0x39
(probe15:twa0:0:16:0): Retrying Command
(probe31:twa1:0:16:0): CAM Status 0x39
(probe31:twa1:0:16:0): Retrying Command
(probe15:twa0:0:16:0): CAM Status 0x39
(probe15:twa0:0:16:0): Retrying Command
(probe31:twa1:0:16:0): CAM Status 0x39
(probe31:twa1:0:16:0): Retrying Command
(probe15:twa0:0:16:0): CAM Status 0x39
(probe15:twa0:0:16:0): Retrying Command
(probe31:twa1:0:16:0): CAM Status 0x39
(probe31:twa1:0:16:0): Retrying Command
(probe15:twa0:0:16:0): error 5
(probe15:twa0:0:16:0): Retries Exhausted
(probe31:twa1:0:16:0): error 5
(probe31:twa1:0:16:0): Retries Exhausted


any helpful information is appreciated.

thanks!
joe
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Re: VIM

2004-12-22 Thread unixadmin99
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:35:58 -0500 (EST), Jerry McAllister
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have installed a VIM editor.
> > When I create a new file with this editor, I can't type anything.
> > What is wrong.
/usr/ports/editors/vilearn is what you need.
"Vilearn is an interactive vi tutorial. There are five short
tutorials, each a text file intended to be edited with vi".

-- 
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Re: Switching FreeBSD machines

2004-12-22 Thread RL
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:31:53 -0600, Kristian Kielhofner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> RL wrote:
> > Hi. I have FBSD 5.3 on one machine. I'm thinking of buying a Dell
> > 420SC Server and would want to use FreeBSD on that. I went through a
> > hard time getting things to work on my current machine such as Java
> > and maybe a few other things, so I really would rather not start from
> > scratch. And I don't want to swap hard-drives because the Dell comes
> > with a nice Serial ATA drive I want to use. My only option might be to
> > clone the old FBSD box using g4Unix and putting it on the Dell. Would
> > kind of problems and headaches would I have with that?
> >
> > Edit: Current machine is an Athlon and Dell server is a P4.
> > ___
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> 
> I hope you saw that the SC420 is going for under $250 right now!
> Anyways, you could always try to manually partition the new drive (in
> the 420) install the bootloader, and then rsync everything over.  I have
> done that many times with FreeBSD and Linux, and as long as you have a
> kernel that supports the HD controllers on both, you should be fine.  A
> FreeBSD live cd should help, but you don't necessarily need it.
> 
> --
> Kristian Kielhofner
> 

Yeah that is about what I got it for (actually over $300.)  Now would
ghosting it (with g4u) work?  I'm thinking I might have a lot of
issues because stuff was compiled for an Athlon and I'm moving to a
P4.
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Mirros Via Bittorrent

2004-12-22 Thread John Theriault
I was wondering if you have ever thought of distributing FreeBSD though 
Bittorrent. If so I may be able to mirror it for you on a global site. 

 

The purpose of my new site (soon coming) is to have a global index of 
Distributions and a way of getting them,

 

Thank you for you time,

 

 

John Theriault
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Switching FreeBSD machines

2004-12-22 Thread RL
Hi. I have FBSD 5.3 on one machine. I'm thinking of buying a Dell
420SC Server and would want to use FreeBSD on that. I went through a
hard time getting things to work on my current machine such as Java
and maybe a few other things, so I really would rather not start from
scratch. And I don't want to swap hard-drives because the Dell comes
with a nice Serial ATA drive I want to use. My only option might be to
clone the old FBSD box using g4Unix and putting it on the Dell. Would
kind of problems and headaches would I have with that?

Edit: Current machine is an Athlon and Dell server is a P4.
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backup routes

2004-12-22 Thread FreeBSD MailingLists
I have a FBSD box acting as a gateway for the network.  I was
wondering if there is anyway to set up the routing table so I can
setup automatic backup routes?

I want the system to try to route packets to A.  But if A is down,
automatically set the route to B...

Is there anyway to set this up?

TIA,
Tomoki
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Re: Samba installation from ports over NFS

2004-12-22 Thread Andrew P.
Michael C. Shultz wrote:
On Wednesday 22 December 2004 10:57 am, Andrew P. wrote:
Hello!
My /usr/ports is a network file-system. When I try to install samba 3
it says:
satsmb# make install
===>   samba-3.0.9,1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/autoconf259 -
found ===>   samba-3.0.9,1 depends on shared library: cups.2 - found
===>   samba-3.0.9,1 depends on shared library: popt.0 - found ===>  
samba-3.0.9,1 depends on shared library: ldap-2.2.7 - found ===>  
samba-3.0.9,1 depends on shared library: iconv.3 - found ===> 
Configuring for samba-3.0.9,1
autom4te259: cannot lock autom4te.cache/requests with mode 2 (perhaps
you are running make -j on a lame NFS client?): Operation not
supported *** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/net/samba3.
Can I fix this without learning all autoconf caveats?

You can do something like make install WRKDIRPREFIX=/tmp
if /tmp is on a local file system to get around the lock problem. 

lockd and statd haven't solved the problem in the end. Work dir prefix 
key helped though, thanks much!

Best wishes,
Andrew P.
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Re: buildworld via ssh

2004-12-22 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2004-12-22 19:47, lists <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am doing a buildworld(Rel5.2) via ssh to a remote location. I detached the
> process from my session, but I failed to
> pipe the output to a logfile. Long story short, my session was terminated
> and I am not sure if the process completed
> correctly or not. Is there any way to find out if the build was sucessful?

If you don't mind wasting a few cycles, you can restart the build with
-DNOCLEAN and wait a bit.  If the build was interrupted because of the
detach, it will resume building everything and finish a lot faster than
a full buildworld.

Having said that, one of the last things that get built is
src/usr.sbin/zzz.  You can check if /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.sbin/zzz/zzz
exists.  If it does, you can probably assume the build finished
successfully.

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Re: rpc.lockd and statd fail to start

2004-12-22 Thread Andrew P.
Kris Kennaway wrote:
On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 10:50:55PM +0300, Andrew P. wrote:
Hello!
I got this:
satsmb# rpc.statd
rpc.statd: svc_tli_create: could not open connection for udp6
rpc.statd: svc_tp_create: Could not register prog 100024 vers 1 on udp
rpc.statd: cannot create udp service
satsmb# rpc.lockd
rpc.lockd: unable to register (NLM_PROG, NLM_SM, udp)
Are you running rpcbind?  The udp6 warning is not by itself fatal, but
the fact that it can't register anything with rpcbind is.
Yep, rpcbind solved the problem. Thanks!
Wishes,
Andrew P.
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buildworld via ssh

2004-12-22 Thread lists
I am doing a buildworld(Rel5.2) via ssh to a remote location. I detached the
process from my session, but I failed to
pipe the output to a logfile. Long story short, my session was terminated
and I am not sure if the process completed
correctly or not. Is there any way to find out if the build was sucessful?

TIA
 -Chris

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Re: Top loses memory over time? Memory leak?

2004-12-22 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> This machine sat unattended all day. What could be causing the drastic
> drop in Free memory? Is this normal? When I actually use the machine,
> it's even worse... Almost all of my RAM goes from Free to other
> various states, Mostly Inactive, even after I've closed all the
> programs I've had open, rather quickly (maybe an hour or two)

See the FAQ, but basically the answer is 
"Free memory is wasted memory."
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Re: VIM

2004-12-22 Thread Jerry McAllister
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have installed a VIM editor.
> When I create a new file with this editor, I can't type anything.
> What is wrong.

I have not used VIM - installed it once, but never really used it.
But, it is basically like vi to use, I think. I have a very basic vi HowTo 
that I wrote up for our sites.  It might help you get started.

It is at:   http://scnc.k12.mi.us/howto/edit/vi.html

jerry

> 
> Thanks,
> Leon.
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Re: Question about FreeBSD 5.3

2004-12-22 Thread Robert Marella
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:56:11 +
Matthew Seaman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 5.3-STABLE is a moving target from the RELENG_4 development branch. 
>   It should run stably and it can be used usefully as a desktop system 
> or whatever, but tracking -STABLE is not recommended for *absolutely has 
> to be up 24x7* type applications, because new functionality and support 
> for new hardware will be introduced, which can result in problems 
> occasionally.  (In practice this very rarely happens: which is a great 
> tribute to the degree of care taken by FreeBSD developers).

If one is *tracking* 5.3-STABLE on a non-critical system and is subscribed 
to the stable mailing list, how does one know when to cvsup and build world? 
I have not seen anything on the list to indicate I should update my source.

I have seen that 5.3-RELEASE is now P2 but nothing about STABLE. Should I 
be doing it regularly (weekly, daily)? Or did I just miss something?

Thank you for this and all of your previous posts. I look forward to 
seeing your name as a poster for I know it will be another learning 
experience.

Robert
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TOE Gigabit NICs

2004-12-22 Thread Giuliano Cardozo Medalha
All,
Does anyone has some experience with TOE NICs ? Think it is developed to 
work with storage systems.

FreeBSD does support this kind of hardware ?
The only target site for this kind of board has indicated that the 
support is only for Windows:

http://www.alacritech.com/html/1000x1_accelerator_oem.html
I would like to test them for projects related with network optimization 
and performace using TCP/IP and FreeBSD.

Thanks a lot,
Giuliano
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Re: Serial ATA?

2004-12-22 Thread Michal Mertl
Peterhin wrote:
I would like to move over to FreeBSD from Linux, only been there for a 
year.

I am starting at groung zero. I have read the hardware list for 4.9 
STABLE and
5.2.1 RELEASE. All I can find in 3.1 "Disk Controller with Promise 
ATA100/133
OEM chip (pdc20265/69)  I am using a ASUS A7N8X-E Deluxe motherboard, 
with a
Promise PDC20378 Raid Controller and a Western Digital Serial ATA H.D. Will
FreeBSD work.?
Yes. The controller is definitely supported. I'm not entirely sure about 
RAID functions but they are most probably supported too.

If you have looked at supported hardware for 5.3 you would find a link to 
ata(4) manual page, which lists the controller as supported.

It has been supported for long time but only recently (for 5.2) it got into 
manual pages and even more recently it's reflected in the release 
documentation (for 5.3).

Michal
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Re: Serial ATA?

2004-12-22 Thread Joshua Tinnin
On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 05:13:40PM -0500, Peterhin wrote:
> I would like to move over to FreeBSD from Linux, only been there for a year. 
> 
> I am starting at groung zero. I have read the hardware list for 4.9 STABLE 
> and 
> 5.2.1 RELEASE. All I can find in 3.1 "Disk Controller with Promise ATA100/133 
> OEM chip (pdc20265/69)  I am using a ASUS A7N8X-E Deluxe motherboard, with a 
> Promise PDC20378 Raid Controller and a Western Digital Serial ATA H.D. Will 
> FreeBSD work.?
> Thanks.

Like I said, I'm not sure about SATA, but I have that same motherboard,
and things work pretty well. I haven't been able to get ACPI to work, so
I leave it disabled, but this isn't a big deal for me. You will need the
sk ethernet device set in the kernel config, as well as some other
things. You will have to go with 5.3-RELEASE to support your hardware.
If you decide to install it, let me know and I'll send my kernel config
file, device.hints and loader.conf. 

- jt
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Re: Identical hard drives, different disklabel sectors/cylinders

2004-12-22 Thread wbwither
Thanks for the responses.  Sorry for the delay in replying.

orville weyrich said:

> (1) make sure that the BIOS settings are the same for
> both drives.

I don't think this is an issue, as I haven't touched the BIOS
for this IDE card, and it should be on full-auto mode.

> (2) is there a jumper on the drive itself that affects
> sector mapping?

No.

> (3) do you have all the /dev/ad4 and /dev/ad5 devices
> (try MAKEDEV ad)

I MAKEDEV'd both ad4 and ad5 at least once.

> (4) have you tried the
> /stand/sysinstall->configure->label method of editing
> the labels?  Does it report a discrepancy between BIOS
> and memory disk geometry?

Yes, I tried /stand/sysinstall several times, and actually
I can't remember whether it gave me that error.  However,
I have gotten that error many times in the past and was
under the impression that it was a fairly normal thing
and should be ignored.

> (5) have you tried using disklable -e to directly edit
> the labels to copy the "good" label to the "bad"
> drive?

Yes, I tried editing both labels, and it wouldn't take for either.

Christian Hiris said:

> Your disks slice tables holding different values for C/H/S geometry.
> You can  wipe out the slice tables with the dd(1) command and
> re-initialize them with  fdisk and bsdlabel or sysinstall. There is an
> example written on this in 'man  8 bsdlabel'.

I dd'd both drives several times.  I never used bsdlabel, as I was under
the impression that disklabel is more recent.
> IMHO there is only one thing that can go wrong with your configuration:
> If you  are booting your system from the mirror, I would test if both
> of your drives  are bootable.

Well, these disks are just extra storage under /var, and ad0 and ad1 are
the bootable disks in this system.  So I guess I don't have anything to
worry about.
Again, thanks for your help :)


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Motor problems

2004-12-22 Thread Alvaro Rosales
Hello guys I am trying to install motor from the ports tree, I am
runningn FreeBSD 5.2, But when I run it  for the first time  I get a 
Bus error .and a  core dump.
Any Ideas about this?.
Thank you
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Top loses memory over time? Memory leak?

2004-12-22 Thread Tim
Okay, here's the background. I thought top was displaying my memory 
stats oddly, so I ran a little test. I rebooted the pc, logged into the 
console as a normal user, and ran top. I did this at around midnight 
last night / this morning. I let it run until I got home from work, 
(6:15 today) So that's about... 18 hours. Here are my results. First, 
when I started last night.

29 processes:  1 running, 28 sleeping
CPU states:  0.0% user,  0.0% nice,  0.2% system,  6.0% interrupt, 93.8% 
idle
Mem: 8120K Active, 8372K Inact, 17M Wired, 8576K Buf, 460M Free
Swap: 980M Total, 980M Free

Now, the one from when I got home:
25 processes:  1 running, 24 sleeping
CPU states:  0.0% user,  0.0% nice,  0.4% system,  8.9% interrupt, 90.7% 
idle
Mem: 7400K Active, 249M Inact, 68M Wired, 60M Buf, 170M Free
Swap: 980M Total, 980M Free

This machine sat unattended all day. What could be causing the drastic 
drop in Free memory? Is this normal? When I actually use the machine, 
it's even worse... Almost all of my RAM goes from Free to other various 
states, Mostly Inactive, even after I've closed all the programs I've 
had open, rather quickly (maybe an hour or two)

For reference, the uname -a:
FreeBSD Empathy 5.3-STABLE FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE #0: Sun Nov  7 21:38:11 
EST 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP  i386

(Dual processor, PIII 1.0ghz, 512M Ram)
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RE: Serial ATA?

2004-12-22 Thread Clay Culver
I am running a Dell PowerEdge 750 server with FreeBSD 4.9 and the system has
a serial ATA hard drive in it.

Clay

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peterhin
> Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 3:14 PM
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Serial ATA?
> 
> I would like to move over to FreeBSD from Linux, only been there for a
year.
> 
> I am starting at groung zero. I have read the hardware list for 4.9 STABLE
and
> 5.2.1 RELEASE. All I can find in 3.1 "Disk Controller with Promise
ATA100/133
> OEM chip (pdc20265/69)  I am using a ASUS A7N8X-E Deluxe motherboard, with
> a
> Promise PDC20378 Raid Controller and a Western Digital Serial ATA H.D.
Will
> FreeBSD work.?
> Thanks.
> 
> Peter
> 
> "Peace is never more than one thought away"
> 
> GNU/Linux
> Freedom
> http://libranet.com
> http://www.fsf.org
> 
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RE: Copying a directory hierarchy

2004-12-22 Thread Singh, Ajith (ZA - Pietermaritzburg)

Have you tried pax -rw . destination_dir ?

AJITH SINGH
Pietermaritzburg, South Africa

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lowell Gilbert
Sent: 22 December 2004 03:51 PM
To: Mike Jeays
Cc: Robert Huff; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Copying a directory hierarchy

Mike Jeays <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Tue, 2004-12-21 at 21:08, Robert Huff wrote:
> > Mike Jeays writes:
> > 
> > >  How does on copy a complete directory hierarchy, including any hidden
> > >  files?
> > >  
> > >  "cp -rp" leaves them out.
> > 
> > cp -rp *
> > cp -rp .*

> This doesn't copy hidden files in lower-level directories, only in the
> top level.  Thanks for the suggestion - a good idea that doesn't quite
> do it.

It works for me...

temp> type -a rm
rm is /bin/rm
temp> mkdir -p a/b/c/d/e
temp> touch a/b/c/d/.hidden a/b/c/d/e/.hidden-too
temp> cp -r a f
temp> find a f
a
a/b
a/b/c
a/b/c/d
a/b/c/d/e
a/b/c/d/e/.hidden-too
a/b/c/d/.hidden
f
f/b
f/b/c
f/b/c/d
f/b/c/d/e
f/b/c/d/e/.hidden-too
f/b/c/d/.hidden
temp> 

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Re: Running own servers

2004-12-22 Thread Louis LeBlanc
On 12/22/04 09:44 PM, Colin J. Raven sat at the `puter and typed:
> 
> 
> I had the same arrangement, but in the Westchester NY area. My local ISP 
> wangled a deal to resell the Verizon SDSL offering and man but didn't 
> they ever do one fine job.
> 
> If...IF you're in or close to Westchester NY (New York City, 
> Westchester, Rockland, Putnam, Dutchess, Orange, Sullivan, Ulster, and 
> Long Island), as well as part of Connecticut (Greenwich), all of New 
> Jersey, and eastern Massachusetts) *do* consider giving Cloud9 Internet 
> a call. They rock(ed) back when I lived there. http://www.cloud9.net 
> and/or (914) 696 4000. I just checked the site to be sure I gave the 
> right number, I did...and that was from memory!! :-)
> 
> Regards & Greetings from The Netherlands,
> -Colin

I just checked them out via email (I'm just a hop west of Boston).  I
gave them my phone #, address, and told they they could check out my
eligibility.

I got an almost immediate response, and they ensure me service
availability should be no more than a day, with downtime no longer
than that required for me to set up PPPoE, which shouldn't be long,
considering I already have a working PPPoE config with Verizon.  Maybe
just a minor reconfig?

As far as use, they don't care so long as the government doesn't say
it's illegal.  Cool.

Lou
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  If it happens, it must be possible.
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Re: portmanager fails installing apache

2004-12-22 Thread Michael C. Shultz
On Wednesday 22 December 2004 02:29 pm, Noah wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:44:18 -0800, Michael C. Shultz wrote
>
> > On Wednesday 22 December 2004 12:38 pm, Noah wrote:
> > > FreeBSD-4.9
> > > portmanager-0.2.0_3
> > >
> > >
> > > well I am not able to find a specific mail list for portmanager
> > > support. anybody got clues why portmanager is having difficulies
> > > here and a nice cure would be helpful?
> >
> > Usually people with portmanager problems just email me directly,
> > my address is listed in the makefile ([EMAIL PROTECTED] but will
> > soon be changed to [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Mentioning problems here
> > in freebsd-questions@freebsd.org or [EMAIL PROTECTED] is OK as I
> > follow both of these.
> >
> > > --- snip ---
> > >
> > > pkg_create: can't find package 'apache-1.3.33_1' installed!
> > > 
> > > cd /usr/ports/www/apache13; make deinstall
> > > ===>  Deinstalling for www/apache13
> > > ===>   apache not installed, skipping
> > > 
> > > cd /usr/ports/www/apache13; make reinstall
> > > ===>  Installing for apache-1.3.33_1
> > >
> > > ===>  apache-1.3.33_1 conflicts with installed package(s):
> > >   apache+mod_ssl-1.3.33+2.8.22
> >
> > Well here is your problem,  apache+mod_ssl-1.*
> > is listed under CONFLICTS in /usr/ports/www/apache13/Makefile.
> > Try pkg_delete -f apache+mod_ssl-1.3.33+2.8.22 then rerun
> > portmanager -u
>
> did that and this is what I am ending up with.  this also is
> happening with lynx-ssl as well.

Try:
 
ls /var/db/pkg

and see if you have a 

/var/db/pkg/apache+mod_ssl-1.3.33+2.8.22

directory, if you do then you probably ran 

pkg_delete apache+mod_ssl-1.3.33+2.8.22

instead of

pkg_delete -f apache+mod_ssl-1.3.33+2.8.22

If you don't have that directory, then let me know,
it will cause me to install the apache ports on my system 
in an attempt to duplicate your problem.

-Mike


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RE: Explore FreeBSD filesystem under Windows?

2004-12-22 Thread Singh, Ajith (ZA - Pietermaritzburg)

Try http://ffsdrv.sourceforge.net/

Also, try Filezilla.


Ajith Singh
Pietermaritzburg
South Africa

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Re: Serial ATA?

2004-12-22 Thread Colin J. Raven
On Dec 22, Peterhin launched this into the bitstream:
I would like to move over to FreeBSD from Linux, only been there for a year.
I am starting at groung zero. I have read the hardware list for 4.9 STABLE and
5.2.1 RELEASE. All I can find in 3.1 "Disk Controller with Promise ATA100/133
OEM chip (pdc20265/69)  I am using a ASUS A7N8X-E Deluxe motherboard, with a
Promise PDC20378 Raid Controller and a Western Digital Serial ATA H.D. Will
FreeBSD work.?
I don't mean this in either a bad or saracstic way whatsoever, but more 
in the spirit of "give it a shot and see what happens"..so.
Give it a shot and see what happens.
You won't lose anything by taking that approach, if the RAID controller 
is *not* recognized you won't be able to commence an installation.
Write your data to CD/DVD first, then "go for it"
Honestly, I can't think of a method more certain to verify whether or 
not your RAID controller is supported.

While you're at it, go for 5.3-RELEASE...why stop at the earlier 
version? There *is* mention (of course) of the Promise RAID controller 
at:
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.3R/relnotes-i386.html#PROC
and it looks sorta hopeful for you.

and I quote;
[snip]
The ata(4) driver now supports cardbus(4) ATA/SATA controllers.
A number of bugs in the ata(4) driver have been fixed. Most notably, 
master/slave device detection should work better, and some problems with 
timeouts should be resolved.

The ata(4) driver now supports the Promise command sequencer present on 
all modern Promise controllers (PDC203** PDC206**).

Note: This also adds preliminary support for the Promise SX4/SX4000 
as a ``normal'' Promise ATA controller; ATA RAID's are supported, but 
only RAID0, RAID1, and RAID0+1
[/snip]

Good luck! and do please let us know if you were successful or not.
Regards,
-Colin
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Wed Dec 22 23:27:00 CET 2004
11:27PM  up 6 days,  4:17, 8 users, load averages: 1.40, 1.29, 1.26
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Re: portmanager fails installing apache

2004-12-22 Thread Noah
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:44:18 -0800, Michael C. Shultz wrote
> On Wednesday 22 December 2004 12:38 pm, Noah wrote:
> > FreeBSD-4.9
> > portmanager-0.2.0_3
> >
> >
> > well I am not able to find a specific mail list for portmanager
> > support. anybody got clues why portmanager is having difficulies here
> > and a nice cure would be helpful?
> >
> Usually people with portmanager problems just email me directly,
> my address is listed in the makefile ([EMAIL PROTECTED] but will 
> soon be changed to [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Mentioning problems here 
> in freebsd-questions@freebsd.org or [EMAIL PROTECTED] is OK as I 
> follow both of these.
> >
> > --- snip ---
> >
> > pkg_create: can't find package 'apache-1.3.33_1' installed!
> > 
> > cd /usr/ports/www/apache13; make deinstall
> > ===>  Deinstalling for www/apache13
> > ===>   apache not installed, skipping
> > 
> > cd /usr/ports/www/apache13; make reinstall
> > ===>  Installing for apache-1.3.33_1
> >
> > ===>  apache-1.3.33_1 conflicts with installed package(s):
> >   apache+mod_ssl-1.3.33+2.8.22
> 
> Well here is your problem,  apache+mod_ssl-1.*
> is listed under CONFLICTS in /usr/ports/www/apache13/Makefile.
> Try pkg_delete -f apache+mod_ssl-1.3.33+2.8.22 then rerun
> portmanager -u


did that and this is what I am ending up with.  this also is happening with
lynx-ssl as well.

cheers,

Noah



> 
> -Mike
> >
> >   They install files into the same place.
> >   Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1).
> > *** Error code 1
> >
> > Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache13.
> > *** Error code 1
> >
> > Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache13.
> > pmupgrade 0.2.0_3 error: make reinstall returned an error, cannot
> > continue # pkg_info | grep apache
> > apache+mod_ssl-1.3.33+2.8.22 The Apache 1.3 webserver with SSL/TLS
> > functionality
> >
> > --- snip ---
> >
> >
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Vinum bootable RAID-1 setup help

2004-12-22 Thread Faisal Ali
Hello,

I really tried my best to follow the FreeBSD handbook documentation to setup
bootable RAID-1 volume, I just can't seem to understand Section 17.9.2, Iam
working with 5.3 i386 Release.

Attached is the output of what I have done so far. Please tell me how do I
apply section 17.9.2 next.

Sorry to ask such a lengthy question, but Iam contacting you after trying my
utmost to follow the documentation.

A quick history.I have setup FreeBSD 5.3 on HP NetServer containing two
4.26GB hotswappble Ultra2 SCSI drives.

Thankyou
Faisal Ali
Network Engineer
Kintetsu Global IT Inc.
100 Jericho Quadrangle, Suite 144
Jericho, NY 11753


 
#df

Filesystem  1K-blocks   Used   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/da0s1a253678  35414  19797015%/
devfs   1  1   0   100%/dev
/dev/da0s1e253678  6  233378 0%/tmp
/dev/da0s1f   2274424 376192 171628018%/usr
/dev/da0s1d253678466  232918 0%/var

#bsdlabel -e /dev/da0s1

8 partitions:
#size   offsetfstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
  a:   52428804.2BSD 2048 16384 32776
  b:  2045808   524288  swap
  c:  83216070unused0 0 # "raw" part, don't edit
  d:   524288  25700964.2BSD 2048 16384 32776
  e:   524288  30943844.2BSD 2048 16384 32776
  f:  4702935  36186724.2BSD 2048 16384 28552


#bsdlabel -e /dev/da1s1

8 partitions:
#size   offsetfstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
  a:   52428804.2BSD 2048 16384 32776
  b:  2045808   524288  swap
  c:  83216070unused0 0 # "raw" part, don't edit
  d:   524288  25700964.2BSD 2048 16384 32776
  e:   524288  30943844.2BSD 2048 16384 32776
  f:  4702935  36186724.2BSD 2048 16384 28552


# more /etc/fstab

 DeviceMountpoint  FStype  Options DumpPass#
/dev/da0s1b noneswapsw  0   0
/dev/da0s1a /   ufs rw  1   1
/dev/da0s1e /tmpufs rw  2   2
/dev/da0s1f /usrufs rw  2   2
/dev/da0s1d /varufs rw  2   2
/dev/acd0   /cdrom  cd9660  ro,noauto   0   0

#vinum
vinum -> mirror -v -n root-a /dev/da0s1a /dev/da1s1a
vinum -> mirror -v -n swap-b /dev/da0s1b /dev/da1s1b
vinum -> mirror -v -n tmp-e /dev/da0s1e /dev/da1s1e
vinum -> mirror -v -n usr-f /dev/da0s1f /dev/da1s1f
vinum -> mirror -v -n var-d /dev/da0s1d /dev/da1s1d
vinum -> list
10 drives:
D vinumdrive0   State: up   /dev/da0s1a A: 0/256 MB (0%)
D vinumdrive1   State: up   /dev/da1s1a A: 0/256 MB (0%)
D vinumdrive2   State: up   /dev/da0s1b A: 0/998 MB (0%)
D vinumdrive3   State: up   /dev/da1s1b A: 0/998 MB (0%)
D vinumdrive4   State: up   /dev/da0s1e A: 0/256 MB (0%)
D vinumdrive5   State: up   /dev/da1s1e A: 0/256 MB (0%)
D vinumdrive6   State: up   /dev/da0s1f A: 0/2296 MB (0%)
D vinumdrive7   State: up   /dev/da1s1f A: 0/2296 MB (0%)
D vinumdrive8   State: up   /dev/da0s1d A: 0/256 MB (0%)
D vinumdrive9   State: up   /dev/da1s1d A: 0/256 MB (0%)

5 volumes:
V root-aState: up   Plexes:   2 Size:255 MB
V swap-bState: up   Plexes:   2 Size:998 MB
V tmp-e State: up   Plexes:   2 Size:255 MB
V usr-f State: up   Plexes:   2 Size:   2296 MB
V var-d State: up   Plexes:   2 Size:255 MB

10 plexes:
P root-a.p0   C State: up   Subdisks: 1 Size:255 MB
P root-a.p1   C State: up   Subdisks: 1 Size:255 MB
P swap-b.p0   C State: up   Subdisks: 1 Size:998 MB
P swap-b.p1   C State: up   Subdisks: 1 Size:998 MB
P tmp-e.p0C State: up   Subdisks: 1 Size:255 MB
P tmp-e.p1C State: up   Subdisks: 1 Size:255 MB
P usr-f.p0C State: up   Subdisks: 1 Size:   2296 MB
P usr-f.p1C State: up   Subdisks: 1 Size:   2296 MB
P var-d.p0C State: up   Subdisks: 1 Size:255 MB
P var-d.p1C State: up   Subdisks: 1 Size:255 MB

10 subdisks:
S root-a.p0.s0  State: up   D: vinumdrive0  Size:255 MB
S root-a.p1.s0  State: up   D: vinumdrive1  Size:255 MB
S swap-b.p0.s0  State: up   D: vinumdrive2  Size:998 MB
S swap-b.p1.s0  State: up   D: vinumdrive3  Size:998 MB
S tmp-e.p0.s0   State: up   D: vinumdrive4  Size:255 MB
S tmp-e.p1.s0   State: up   D: vinumdrive5  Si

Serial ATA?

2004-12-22 Thread Peterhin
I would like to move over to FreeBSD from Linux, only been there for a year. 

I am starting at groung zero. I have read the hardware list for 4.9 STABLE and 
5.2.1 RELEASE. All I can find in 3.1 "Disk Controller with Promise ATA100/133 
OEM chip (pdc20265/69)  I am using a ASUS A7N8X-E Deluxe motherboard, with a 
Promise PDC20378 Raid Controller and a Western Digital Serial ATA H.D. Will 
FreeBSD work.?
Thanks.
 
Peter

"Peace is never more than one thought away"

GNU/Linux
Freedom  
http://libranet.com
http://www.fsf.org

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help with installing Java

2004-12-22 Thread Zachary Huang
I am still trying to install Java (to FreeBSD 4.8), which is needed
for Tomcat.  Are the instructions at
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/java-tomcat/x60.html
outdated?

If you follow the instructions, you cannot find the file
j2sdk-1_3_1_10-linux-i386.bin at sun.com.

so 1). where can I find this file? or

2). are there other instructions on the web to go a different route? thanks.

Zachary
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Re: Newbie

2004-12-22 Thread Joshua Tinnin
Make sure to cc the list with replies, as it helps others who might be
having similar problems, and more people can contribute to helping you.

On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 04:09:25PM -0500, Peterhin wrote:
> Hello jt
>  
> Thanks for the info. 

For reference, that was the FreeBSD vs. Linux comparison:
http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/rants/bsd4linux/bsd4linux1.php

No problem. I tend to feel the same way as the author, and that's about
how I explain the differences to others.

> I read the whole site as you suggested, very good info.
> I do have a further question regarding, first which version I should start 
> with, I have done some reading and it looks like 4.10 (Please correct me if I 
> am wrong)

Well, you should look at what hardware you need and what's supported,
but for the most part I'd recommend 5.3, as it's the newest RELEASE.
I've found it to be stable, and hardware support is better than in 4.10.
Of course there are other considerations, but for a newbie I'd recommend
the newest release based on better hardware support as a primary
consideration.

> Also I have a Serial ATA hard drive, (Western Digital)  which I can't seem to 
> find in either version 4 or 5. equipment list. Do you know if it is 
> supported.? 

I'm not sure about SATA, but this subject has come up on the list many
times. Check the archives, or perhaps someone else will know about your
specific hardware.

- jt
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Re: VIM

2004-12-22 Thread Mark Thomas
Joshua Lokken wrote:
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:56:18 -0500, Leon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi,
I have installed a VIM editor.
When I create a new file with this editor, I can't type anything.
What is wrong.

Look at the tutor that comes with Vim. Try (from a shell) vimtutor. If 
that doesn't work try /usr/local/share/vim/vim63/tutor
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Re: Explore FreeBSD filesystem under Windows?

2004-12-22 Thread Brian Astill
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 03:35 pm, Peter E. Antonov wrote:

> http://ffsdrv.sourceforge.net/ - FFS File System Driver for Windows
> It enables you to read BSD(FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD) FFS partitions
> on Windows 2000/XP/2003.

Anyone know whether FFS works on other Windoze flavours?
(I'm going to try it on NT, soon.)

Sourceforge is also the source for the FFS driver.

-- 
Regards,
Brian
sos-sa.org.au
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Re: Explore FreeBSD filesystem under Windows?

2004-12-22 Thread Irvin Piraman
This has been posted and re-posted:

If you want to view any BSD filesystem running on the same box as
Windows, you can use the FFS File System Driver for Windows:

http://ffsdrv.sourceforge.net

HTH

Irvin
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Re: portmanager fails installing apache

2004-12-22 Thread Michael C. Shultz
On Wednesday 22 December 2004 12:38 pm, Noah wrote:
> FreeBSD-4.9
> portmanager-0.2.0_3
>
>
> well I am not able to find a specific mail list for portmanager
> support. anybody got clues why portmanager is having difficulies here
> and a nice cure would be helpful?
>
Usually people with portmanager problems just email me directly,
my address is listed in the makefile ([EMAIL PROTECTED] but will soon be 
changed to [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Mentioning problems here in 
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org or [EMAIL PROTECTED] is OK as I follow 
both of these.
>
> --- snip ---
>
> pkg_create: can't find package 'apache-1.3.33_1' installed!
> 
> cd /usr/ports/www/apache13; make deinstall
> ===>  Deinstalling for www/apache13
> ===>   apache not installed, skipping
> 
> cd /usr/ports/www/apache13; make reinstall
> ===>  Installing for apache-1.3.33_1
>
> ===>  apache-1.3.33_1 conflicts with installed package(s):
>   apache+mod_ssl-1.3.33+2.8.22

Well here is your problem,  apache+mod_ssl-1.*
is listed under CONFLICTS in /usr/ports/www/apache13/Makefile.
Try pkg_delete -f apache+mod_ssl-1.3.33+2.8.22 then rerun
portmanager -u

-Mike
>
>   They install files into the same place.
>   Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1).
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache13.
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache13.
> pmupgrade 0.2.0_3 error: make reinstall returned an error, cannot
> continue # pkg_info | grep apache
> apache+mod_ssl-1.3.33+2.8.22 The Apache 1.3 webserver with SSL/TLS
> functionality
>
> --- snip ---
>
>
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ASterisk

2004-12-22 Thread Giuliano Cardozo Medalha
All,
Does anyone knows if modem generic - Ambient MD3200 - works with 
asterisk in freebsd 5.3 ?

There is some special thing to do about it ?
Thanks a lot,
Giuliano
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Re: Explore FreeBSD filesystem under Windows?

2004-12-22 Thread Brian Astill
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 01:47 pm, Bart Silverstrim wrote:

> Another option...an external hard disk formatted FAT so both could
> see it?

Fat limit is 2G.  VFAT would be better - unless you run WinNT, in which 
case you are stuck with either multiple 2G FAT partitions on that 
external disk or NTFS which imposes other limitations.   Ain't M$ 
clever?  

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Brian
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Re: Explore FreeBSD filesystem under Windows?

2004-12-22 Thread Brian Astill
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:39 am, Joshua Lokken wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:20:40 +0200, P. B. S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > How can I do that?
> > explore2fs is for ext2/3 only.
> >
> > I want to copy files from my FreeBSD filesystem (UFS2, I think?)
> > using Windows.
>
> http://us1.samba.org/samba/
>
> # cd /usr/ports/net/samba3
> # make install clean
>
> Then you can share your FreeBSD files over Samba, and have
> access to them from your Winboxen.


That's fine for two separate boxes, but has no hope whatsoever is the 
Windoze and FBSD OSs are in the same box (perhaps even on the same 
drive).

-- 
Regards,
Brian
sos-sa.org.au
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Re: Running own servers

2004-12-22 Thread Colin J. Raven
On Dec 22, Brian Clapper launched this into the bitstream:
On 21 December, 2004, at 23:12 (-0500)
RL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
What's the most popular option? Is it buying a business DSL or T1
service or is it to colocate it?  All of them are pricey. :(
Depending on where you are, you may have other options as well.
I'm in the Philadelphia, PA, area. I have a somewhat non-standard DSL
arrangement that works very well for me. Verizon supplies the wire and the
DSL signal (as well as my local phone service), but I use someone else--a
so-called Verizon partner ISP--as my ISP. My ISP handles all the billing,
and they will give me up to 5 static IP addresses. (I currently use 2.) I
provide my own forward DNS, SMTP and HTTP services. My ISP has no problem
providing me with DNS PTR records for the assigned IPs; doing a "dig -x" on
the address returned for my domain's MX address yields a PTR record that
refers back to my domain. If, for some reason, I want to change the PTR
record, I simply drop them an email; they usually take care of it within in
hour or so. If I want another static IP address, the procedure and
turnaround time are comparable.
There *is* a small price for this extra functionality: I pay about $10-$15
more per month than if I were to go with a "native" Verizon DSL set up. I
pay $44.95/month for 1.5Mbps/384Kbps ADSL. For native Verizon, a
month-to-month plan is $34.95/mo, and a plan with a 1-year commitment is
$29.95/month. But Verizon will not give me static IPs for that price; the
extra monthly cost is worth it to me.
I have had this arrangment for almost 5 years; 5 years ago, the monthly
cost was higher and the bandwidth was lower. The cost and bandwidth have
only improved over time.
I had the same arrangement, but in the Westchester NY area. My local ISP 
wangled a deal to resell the Verizon SDSL offering and man but didn't 
they ever do one fine job.

If...IF you're in or close to Westchester NY (New York City, 
Westchester, Rockland, Putnam, Dutchess, Orange, Sullivan, Ulster, and 
Long Island), as well as part of Connecticut (Greenwich), all of New 
Jersey, and eastern Massachusetts) *do* consider giving Cloud9 Internet 
a call. They rock(ed) back when I lived there. http://www.cloud9.net 
and/or (914) 696 4000. I just checked the site to be sure I gave the 
right number, I did...and that was from memory!! :-)

Regards & Greetings from The Netherlands,
-Colin
--
Colin J. Raven
Wed Dec 22 21:43:00 CET 2004
9:43PM  up 6 days,  2:33, 7 users, load averages: 1.16, 1.36, 1.40
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portmanager fails installing apache

2004-12-22 Thread Noah
FreeBSD-4.9
portmanager-0.2.0_3


well I am not able to find a specific mail list for portmanager support.
anybody got clues why portmanager is having difficulies here and a nice cure
would be helpful?


--- snip ---

pkg_create: can't find package 'apache-1.3.33_1' installed!

cd /usr/ports/www/apache13; make deinstall 
===>  Deinstalling for www/apache13
===>   apache not installed, skipping

cd /usr/ports/www/apache13; make reinstall 
===>  Installing for apache-1.3.33_1

===>  apache-1.3.33_1 conflicts with installed package(s): 
  apache+mod_ssl-1.3.33+2.8.22

  They install files into the same place.
  Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1).
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache13.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache13.
pmupgrade 0.2.0_3 error: make reinstall returned an error, cannot continue
# pkg_info | grep apache
apache+mod_ssl-1.3.33+2.8.22 The Apache 1.3 webserver with SSL/TLS functionality

--- snip ---


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Re: Explore FreeBSD filesystem under Windows?

2004-12-22 Thread Peter E. Antonov
Hello, P..

You wrote 22 Dec 2004, 19:20:40:

PBS> How can I do that?
PBS> explore2fs is for ext2/3 only.

PBS> I want to copy files from my FreeBSD filesystem (UFS2, I think?) using
PBS> Windows. 

http://ffsdrv.sourceforge.net/ - FFS File System Driver for Windows
It enables you to read BSD(FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD) FFS partitions on Windows 
2000/XP/2003.


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Re: best newsgroup?

2004-12-22 Thread W. D.
At 09:21 12/22/2004, Pervert Files wrote:
>Hello,
>
>What is the best newsgroup to read freebsd question.  
>muc.lists.freebsd.questions doesn't seem to be updating with anything on my 
>news provider.
>
>--
>Thanks,
>Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED]

You can also try:
http://www.Mail-Archive.com/freebsd-questions@freebsd.org/


Start Here to Find It Fast!™ -> http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/
$8.77 Domain Names -> http://domains.us-webmasters.com/

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Some questions about Dynamic disks support in FreeBSD and about NTFS

2004-12-22 Thread Peter E. Antonov
Hello, freebsd-questions.

   Whether support of the dynamic disks created in Windows XP/2000 is planned 
in the near future?
   And how affairs with support NTFS are?

   Some links:
   http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/ - project implements
   the first full read/write free access to NTFS disk drives in
   GNU/Linux.

   http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net - NTFS support in Linux
   http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/info/ldm.html - some information
   about Windows Dynamic Disks

-- 
WBR,
 Peter  mailto: apeter.subscribe [{at}] mail.ru

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Re: Samba installation from ports over NFS

2004-12-22 Thread Michael C. Shultz
On Wednesday 22 December 2004 10:57 am, Andrew P. wrote:
> Hello!
>
> My /usr/ports is a network file-system. When I try to install samba 3
> it says:
>
> satsmb# make install
> ===>   samba-3.0.9,1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/autoconf259 -
> found ===>   samba-3.0.9,1 depends on shared library: cups.2 - found
> ===>   samba-3.0.9,1 depends on shared library: popt.0 - found ===>  
> samba-3.0.9,1 depends on shared library: ldap-2.2.7 - found ===>  
> samba-3.0.9,1 depends on shared library: iconv.3 - found ===> 
> Configuring for samba-3.0.9,1
> autom4te259: cannot lock autom4te.cache/requests with mode 2 (perhaps
> you are running make -j on a lame NFS client?): Operation not
> supported *** Error code 1
>
> Stop in /usr/ports/net/samba3.
>
>
> Can I fix this without learning all autoconf caveats?
>
>
> Best wishes,
> Andrew P.

You can do something like make install WRKDIRPREFIX=/tmp
if /tmp is on a local file system to get around the lock problem. 

-Mike
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Re: unsuccessful upgrade from 4.2 to 4.10 through cvsup+make world

2004-12-22 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Zachary Huang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> the CVSUP must have worked since  the directory /usr/home/ncvs has these 
> files:
> 325587  bytes:
> 
> cyber# ls -l
> -rw-r--r--1 root  user   6355 Apr 30  2004 COPYRIGHT
> -rw-r--r--1 root  user   8480 Apr 16  2003 Makefile
> -rw-r--r--1 root  user  24190 May 25  2004 Makefile.inc1
> -rw-r--r--1 root  user   9761 Aug 27  1999 Makefile.upgrade
> -rw-r--r--1 root  user   2699 Apr 26  2002 README
> -rw-r--r--1 root  user  44963 Dec  1 16:35 UPDATING
> drwxr-xr-x   32 root  user512 Dec 21 20:32 bin
> drwxr-xr-x   46 root  user   1024 Dec 21 20:44 contrib
> drwxr-xr-x7 root  user512 Dec 21 20:48 crypto
> drwxr-xr-x   14 root  user   2048 Dec 21 20:48 etc
> drwxr-xr-x   41 root  user   1024 Dec 21 20:49 games
> drwxr-xr-x6 root  user512 Dec 21 20:51 gnu
> drwxr-xr-x6 root  user   1536 Dec 21 20:51 include
> drwxr-xr-x7 root  user512 Dec 21 20:51 kerberos5
> drwxr-xr-x8 root  user512 Dec 21 20:51 kerberosIV
> drwxr-xr-x   57 root  user   1536 Dec 21 20:54 lib
> drwxr-xr-x   35 root  user   1024 Dec 21 20:54 libexec
> drwxr-xr-x   10 root  user512 Dec 21 20:55 release
> drwxr-xr-x   82 root  user   1536 Dec 21 20:55 sbin
> drwxr-xr-x6 root  user512 Dec 21 20:55 secure
> drwxr-xr-x   23 root  user512 Dec 21 20:57 share
> drwxr-xr-x   49 root  user   1024 Dec 21 21:06 sys
> drwxr-xr-x8 root  user512 Dec 21 21:06 tools
> drwxr-xr-x  221 root  user   3584 Dec 21 21:08 usr.bin
> drwxr-xr-x  157 root  user   3072 Dec 21 21:10 usr.sbin
> 
> so why were not the binary files updated?

What did you actually do, what results did you expect, and what was
the first place where the results you got were different?
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Report Management Software

2004-12-22 Thread Gardner Bell
Hi,
I'm looking for a program similar to send-pr and diff that can provide 
customized reports on critical system configuration changes.  I then want to 
have the report emailed to a central location on my network for later review.  
Does anyone know of any program within the ports tree that can accomplish this 
task?  I would like the reports processed similar to a CVS diff file if at all 
possible. 

Thanks

Gardner 
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Re: rpc.lockd and statd fail to start

2004-12-22 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 10:50:55PM +0300, Andrew P. wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> I got this:
> 
> satsmb# rpc.statd
> rpc.statd: svc_tli_create: could not open connection for udp6
> rpc.statd: svc_tp_create: Could not register prog 100024 vers 1 on udp
> rpc.statd: cannot create udp service
> satsmb# rpc.lockd
> rpc.lockd: unable to register (NLM_PROG, NLM_SM, udp)

Are you running rpcbind?  The udp6 warning is not by itself fatal, but
the fact that it can't register anything with rpcbind is.

Kris


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Re: Armada 17xx, ACPI thermal management broken.

2004-12-22 Thread Nikolas Britton
Uwe Laverenz wrote:
On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 06:25:05AM -0600, Nikolas Britton wrote:
 

Any help would be appreciated on ether fixing this problem or a way to 
use ACPI but disable the thermal monitoring so the system can control 
the fan?
   

I might be wrong, but I think on the 1750 you should use APM instead of
ACPI. I had a 1750 running with FreeBSD 4.x and APM and it worked very
well.
cu,
Uwe
 

How?, I added it to my kernel "device apm", "device pmtimer", and 
"device amp_saver" and rebuilt it and in rc.conf I added 
apm_enable="YES", apmd_enable="YES" and I greped though 
default/loader.conf for anything but found nothing, after rebooting the 
only thing I get from dmesg is "WARNING: apm_saver module requires apm 
enabled" and when I type in apm I get "apm: can't open /dev/apm: No such 
file or directory", type in zzz and I get "apm: can't open /dev/apm: No 
such file or directory"

I want ACPI!, APM is a last ditch hack to me, the name says it all 
"Advanced Configuration and Power Interface" there is a reason they 
switched to it. The 440BX chipset has full support for ACPI and 
therefore should work with FreeBSD and is a critical problem, what do 
you think might happen if you disable all your fans on your computer???. 
Please note that I'm not trying to diss FreeBSD in anyway for it being 
broken as I understand the issues with the DSDT, AML, and ASL stuff, I 
just want it to work.

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rpc.lockd and statd fail to start

2004-12-22 Thread Andrew P.
Hello!
I got this:
satsmb# rpc.statd
rpc.statd: svc_tli_create: could not open connection for udp6
rpc.statd: svc_tp_create: Could not register prog 100024 vers 1 on udp
rpc.statd: cannot create udp service
satsmb# rpc.lockd
rpc.lockd: unable to register (NLM_PROG, NLM_SM, udp)
satsmb# uname -a
FreeBSD satsmb.local 5.3-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p2 #0: Wed Dec 
22 01:59:37 MSK 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SATSMBK  i386

I googled and pipermailed, but there are very few references to these 
messages, and they are unsolved mostly. Below is my kernel config. INET6 
was left out, but is it mandatory for rpc services? Both services work 
okay for me on FreeBSD-4.10 without INET6 compiled into kernel.

machine i386
cpu I686_CPU
ident   SATSMBK
options SCHED_4BSD  # 4BSD scheduler
options INET# InterNETworking
options FFS # Berkeley Fast Filesystem
options SOFTUPDATES # Enable FFS soft updates support
options UFS_ACL # Support for access control lists
options UFS_DIRHASH # Improve performance on big 
directories
options MD_ROOT # MD is a potential root device
options NFSCLIENT   # Network Filesystem Client
options NFSSERVER   # Network Filesystem Server
options NFS_ROOT# NFS usable as /, requires 
NFSCLIENT
options MSDOSFS # MSDOS Filesystem
options CD9660  # ISO 9660 Filesystem
options PROCFS  # Process filesystem (requires 
PSEUDOFS)
options PSEUDOFS# Pseudo-filesystem framework
options GEOM_GPT# GUID Partition Tables.
options COMPAT_43   # Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP 
THIS!]
options COMPAT_FREEBSD4 # Compatible with FreeBSD4
options SCSI_DELAY=15000# Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI
options SYSVSHM # SYSV-style shared memory
options SYSVMSG # SYSV-style message queues
options SYSVSEM # SYSV-style semaphores
options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING # POSIX P1003_1B real-time 
extensions
options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV# install a CDEV entry in /dev
options ADAPTIVE_GIANT  # Giant mutex is adaptive.

device  apic# I/O APIC
device  isa
device  pci
device  ata
device  atadisk # ATA disk drives
device  ataraid # ATA RAID drives
device  atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives
options ATA_STATIC_ID   # Static device numbering
device  atkbdc  # AT keyboard controller
device  atkbd   # AT keyboard
device  vga # VGA video card driver
device  sc
device  npx
device  miibus  # MII bus support
device  rl  # RealTek 8129/8139
device  vr  # VIA Rhine, Rhine II
# Pseudo devices.
device  loop# Network loopback
device  mem # Memory and kernel memory devices
device  io  # I/O device
device  random  # Entropy device
device  ether   # Ethernet support
device  tun # Packet tunnel.
device  pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc)
device  gif # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling
device  bpf # Berkeley packet filter
# Additional options
option  IPFIREWALL
option  IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT
option  DUMMYNET
Best wishes,
Andrew P.
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Re: how to get it online

2004-12-22 Thread epilogue
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:00:32 -0600
"Bagus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > The FreeBSD Handbook is a great reference:
> >
> > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/
> 
> Yes... there's more information there than I saw on first perusal.
> Thanks, but I'm not out of the woods yet.

since you seem to have missed a few rather important bits of handbook on
your first read, let us check one more.

are you by any chance using a custom kernel?  if so, please confirm that
it includes 'device bpf' (which is essential for DHCP).

hth,
epi
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dmesg

2004-12-22 Thread tethys ocean
I have a problem abaout dmesg ..

whenever I said that dmesg sever  give sto me some different log.. 
such a 

connetsion atteöp to UDP 127.0.0.1:512 from 127.0.0.1:55519



why?
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Re: Explore FreeBSD filesystem under Windows?

2004-12-22 Thread Joshua Lokken
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:18:58 +, Irvin Piraman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Yeah, is writing to NTFS implemented now?
> 
> >From the manpages:
> 
> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=mount_ntfs&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+5.3-RELEASE+and+Ports&format=html
> 
> WRITING
> There is limited writing ability.  Limitations: file must be nonresident
> and must not contain any sparces (uninitialized areas); compressed files
> are also not supported.  The file name must not contain multibyte charac-
> ters.

Very nice!  I hadn't looked into it for awhile...  Thank you, Irvin :)

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Re: problem with X in a laptop

2004-12-22 Thread Lowell Gilbert
"[EMAIL PROTECTED] " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> the video card is a silicon motion, but the driver doesnt work, 
> so i used a generic VGA.
> Now im using FreeBSD 5.3 with Xorg, but before i was using 
> debian with XF86 and i had the same problem, but i fixed it 
> startingthe X server with the "-dpi 100" but this now doesnt 
> work.

You could always try XFree86 again; that certainly worked with the
SiliconMotion video chip on my old HP laptop.
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Re: Problem with tar archive

2004-12-22 Thread Lowell Gilbert
sp0ng3b0b <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> freebsd_daemon wrote:
> > Dear list,
> > I got a tar archive (varia.tar), when I try to un-tar it I get:
> > # tar xvf ./varia.tar
> > ../varia/
> > tar: ../varia/: Member name contains `..'
> > ../varia/bkup200401.gz
> > tar: ../varia/bkup200401.gz: Member name contains `..'
> > [...]
> > ../varia/bkup200411.gz
> > tar: ../varia/bkup200411.gz: Member name contains `..'
> > tar: Error exit delay from previous error
> > Is there a way to un-tar that archive despite of that?
> > TIA
> > zheyu
> >
> I had some strange tar problems with bsd tar, which is included with
> 5.3-RELEASE. I would recommend installing gtar and using that
> instead. By the way, if you install gtar, you just type "tar" as you
> normally would.

With Gnu tar *or* BSD tar, you will need a '-P' option to extract
directories that contain '..'.  [It's very easy to overwrite something
unintentionally if this capability were available by default.]
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Re: problem with IPFILTER

2004-12-22 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Wednesday, December 22, 2004 05:41:30 PM +0100 "Dott. Surricani" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
ipf -Fa -f /etc/ipf.rules and
ipnat -CF -f /etc/ipnat.rules
It's very boring
What I can do to automate this task?
In /etc/rc.conf
ipfilter_enable="YES"
ipnat_enable="YES"
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The University of Texas at Dallas
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Re: Explore FreeBSD filesystem under Windows?

2004-12-22 Thread Irvin Piraman
> > Yeah, is writing to NTFS implemented now?

>From the manpages:

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=mount_ntfs&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+5.3-RELEASE+and+Ports&format=html

WRITING
 There is limited writing ability.  Limitations: file must be nonresident
 and must not contain any sparces (uninitialized areas); compressed files
 are also not supported.  The file name must not contain multibyte charac-
 ters.
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Re: Samba installation from ports over NFS

2004-12-22 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Dec 22), Andrew P. said:
> My /usr/ports is a network file-system. When I try to install samba 3 it 
> says:
> 
> satsmb# make install
> ===>   samba-3.0.9,1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/autoconf259 - found
> ===>   samba-3.0.9,1 depends on shared library: cups.2 - found
> ===>   samba-3.0.9,1 depends on shared library: popt.0 - found
> ===>   samba-3.0.9,1 depends on shared library: ldap-2.2.7 - found
> ===>   samba-3.0.9,1 depends on shared library: iconv.3 - found
> ===>  Configuring for samba-3.0.9,1
> autom4te259: cannot lock autom4te.cache/requests with mode 2 (perhaps you are 
> running make -j on a lame NFS client?): Operation not supported
> *** Error code 1

Make sure you are running lockd and statd on client and server.  In
/etc/rc.conf:

rpc_lockd_enable="YES"
rpc_statd_enable="YES"
 
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Samba installation from ports over NFS

2004-12-22 Thread Andrew P.
Hello!
My /usr/ports is a network file-system. When I try to install samba 3 it 
says:

satsmb# make install
===>   samba-3.0.9,1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/autoconf259 - found
===>   samba-3.0.9,1 depends on shared library: cups.2 - found
===>   samba-3.0.9,1 depends on shared library: popt.0 - found
===>   samba-3.0.9,1 depends on shared library: ldap-2.2.7 - found
===>   samba-3.0.9,1 depends on shared library: iconv.3 - found
===>  Configuring for samba-3.0.9,1
autom4te259: cannot lock autom4te.cache/requests with mode 2 (perhaps 
you are running make -j on a lame NFS client?): Operation not supported
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/net/samba3.
Can I fix this without learning all autoconf caveats?
Best wishes,
Andrew P.
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Re: how to get it online

2004-12-22 Thread Joshua Lokken
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:42:43 -0500 (EST), Jim Trigg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, December 22, 2004 1:30 pm, Joshua Lokken said:
> > On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:00:32 -0600, Bagus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > How did you setup the Linksys?  Default (out-of-the-box) settings?
> >>
> >> plugged it in, plugged cable modem into uplink, plugged this pc into one
> >> outlet, the freebsd box into another. PC works fine. Lights indicate
> >> connectivity to bsd box.
> >>
> >> > Is the DHCP server turned on at the router?  What does the status
> >> > page of the router settings show?
> >> >
> >>
> >> That's supposed to be http://192.168.1.1, isn't it? I can't access that
> >> even
> >> from my pc. Any advice there would be helpful. BTW, I'm using Cox as a
> >> ISP.
> 
> Not if you haven't reconfigured the router; the default is
> http://192.168.0.1.

[I wish I could site the exact model number] I just setup two
Linksys 4-port 10/100 routers with wireless, and they were 
both set to 192.168.1.1 out of the box.  In fact, that what's
Linksys' website says, too:

"When the browser window opens, go to the Address bar and 
 type in the router's IP Address and click on the Go button 
 (192.168.1.1 is the default IP address of Linksys Routers)."

It's all in TFM ;)

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Re: pcmcia wireless

2004-12-22 Thread Joshua Lokken
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 09:54:15 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>   hello,
> 
>   i am using the 5.0 dist, and i cant get it to read my pcmcia ethernet
>   card. it is rather old card with a cat-5 connector on it for plugging
>   into my router. it is called ositech trumpcard and it is the jack of
>   dimonds model  the card works because i tried it on the same computer
>   before loading freebsd and i could surf the net with it. is there a
>   driver avaliable for this card or should i go get a wirless one? (i
>   cant find any cabled ones) if i need to get a wireless one, what brand
>   do you recomend? i do have a wirless g router here.

I don't know much about wireless technology or setting it up
on FreeBSD, however, you're likely to be asked "Why 5.0?  
It is no longer supported, and is quite old.  Have you got
specific reasons for not going with 5.3, which is the production
release?"  So I'll just get that out of the way ;)

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Re: Explore FreeBSD filesystem under Windows?

2004-12-22 Thread Bart Silverstrim
On Dec 22, 2004, at 1:42 PM, Joshua Lokken wrote:
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:02:42 -0500, Bart Silverstrim
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Dec 22, 2004, at 12:29 PM, P. B. S. wrote:
I'm talking about 1 (one) computer! The FreeBSD partition is on the
same hard disk; the 2 operating systems are not working at the same
time. Samba, ftp, scp, etc. are not applicable here.
That's why I mentioned explore2fs... I wanted to be clear.
What about mounting the Windows partition under FBSD?
Yeah, is writing to NTFS implemented now?
This I do not know...I thought there was experimental support for NTFS, 
but I haven't tried this.

Another option...an external hard disk formatted FAT so both could see 
it? 

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Re: SSH into FBSD after Minimal Install?

2004-12-22 Thread Joshua Lokken
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:13:07 -0600, Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm re-installing FreeBSD on a machine that currently has FreeBSD on it.  I'm 
> doing all this remotely over SSH.
> 
> If I install with "Minimal" distribution set with "sysinstall" will I be able 
> to 
> enable SSH and add a user before the system goes down?

You can do about any administrative task from sysinstall, 
including drop into a shell, so yes, I would think you will be
able to do that.

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Re: The FreeBSD Foundation

2004-12-22 Thread Tom Vilot
Thanks, Troy, for posting this.
With their PayPal link, it made it effortless to donate.
FreeBSD is worth a lot more to me than I donated ... but I'll just do it 
again and again and again ... :)
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Re: best newsgroup?

2004-12-22 Thread Nikolas Britton
Joshua Lokken wrote:
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:28:58 -0600, Nikolas Britton
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

Yes that worked, cool, now I can search every newsgroup with the word
freebsd in it: http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?&as_ugroup=*.freebsd.*
   

http://www.google.com/bsd
 

Yes this is a usefull tool as well but it will only let you search web pages
here's this thread in google groups: 
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/mailing.freebsd.questions/browse_thread/thread/a645030a2aba09d2/da511797e7f307ba

You can clearly see that they keep it up to date :-)
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Re: Explore FreeBSD filesystem under Windows?

2004-12-22 Thread Joshua Lokken
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:02:42 -0500, Bart Silverstrim
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> On Dec 22, 2004, at 12:29 PM, P. B. S. wrote:
> 
> > I'm talking about 1 (one) computer! The FreeBSD partition is on the
> > same hard disk; the 2 operating systems are not working at the same
> > time. Samba, ftp, scp, etc. are not applicable here.
> > That's why I mentioned explore2fs... I wanted to be clear.
> 
> What about mounting the Windows partition under FBSD?

Yeah, is writing to NTFS implemented now?


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Re: how to get it online

2004-12-22 Thread Jim Trigg
On Wed, December 22, 2004 1:30 pm, Joshua Lokken said:
> On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:00:32 -0600, Bagus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> > How did you setup the Linksys?  Default (out-of-the-box) settings?
>>
>> plugged it in, plugged cable modem into uplink, plugged this pc into one
>> outlet, the freebsd box into another. PC works fine. Lights indicate
>> connectivity to bsd box.
>>
>> > Is the DHCP server turned on at the router?  What does the status
>> > page of the router settings show?
>> >
>>
>> That's supposed to be http://192.168.1.1, isn't it? I can't access that
>> even
>> from my pc. Any advice there would be helpful. BTW, I'm using Cox as a
>> ISP.

Not if you haven't reconfigured the router; the default is
http://192.168.0.1.

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Re: best newsgroup?

2004-12-22 Thread Joshua Lokken
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:28:58 -0600, Nikolas Britton
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes that worked, cool, now I can search every newsgroup with the word
> freebsd in it: http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?&as_ugroup=*.freebsd.*

http://www.google.com/bsd

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Re: how to get it online

2004-12-22 Thread Joshua Lokken
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:00:32 -0600, Bagus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >ping freebsd.org
> > > ping: cannot resolve freebsd.org: Host name lookup failure.
> 
> > Hostname lookup failure sounds like a dns problem to me.
> > Is there anything in /etc/resolv.conf ?
> 
> No, there is not even a /etc/resolve.conf. What should go in there?
> >How is fxp0 assigned an  IP?  DHCP?
> I think so. That's the way it should be.
> 
> > If so, do you have a line like the following in /etc/rc.conf:
> > ifconfig_fxp0="DHCP"
> 
> That line was not in there. I added it and rebooted. The boot process now
> started the dhcp client, but still no actual ip address is reported in the
> ifconfig.
> >
> > How did you setup the Linksys?  Default (out-of-the-box) settings?
> 
> plugged it in, plugged cable modem into uplink, plugged this pc into one
> outlet, the freebsd box into another. PC works fine. Lights indicate
> connectivity to bsd box.
> 
> > Is the DHCP server turned on at the router?  What does the status
> > page of the router settings show?
> >
> 
> That's supposed to be http://192.168.1.1, isn't it? I can't access that even
> from my pc. Any advice there would be helpful. BTW, I'm using Cox as a 
> ISP.

You can set fxp0 to use a static IP until you get the router working.
# ifconfig fxp0 inet 192.168.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.0
# route add default 192.168.1.1

In /etc/rc.conf, you should have:

ifconfig_fxp0="DHCP"
defaultrouter="192.168.1.1"

You should be able to login to the Linksys admin page:

http://192.168.1.1AFAIK, most of the Linksys home networking
devices use a blank username and password 'admin' by default.

Make sure that the DHCP server is enabled, and restart.

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Re: best newsgroup?

2004-12-22 Thread Nikolas Britton
Nikolas Britton wrote:
This ones easy (tho I hate there "new" style), bookmark this link to 
your toolbar as "BSD Search": 
http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?&as_ugroup=mailing.freebsd.*

This will let you google all the freebsd mailing lists, in the search 
box you'll see "group:mailing.freebsd.*", don't delete it, you can 
type in front of it or after it.

and note that you can change as_ugroup= to anything you want, and you 
know.. I've never tried it like this: *.freebsd.* hmm?

Yes that worked, cool, now I can search every newsgroup with the word 
freebsd in it: http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?&as_ugroup=*.freebsd.*

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Re: perl.core files in almost every dir

2004-12-22 Thread cpghost
On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 10:52:15AM -0600, Chris Bearden wrote:
> Has anybody ever seen perl.core files in a good number of the directories in
> FreeBSD? I'm running 5.3.
> 
> They are all nearly 3 megs in size. And as far as I can tell, perl runs just
> fine. I'm executing scripts without any problems.
> 
> And my messages log doesn't show anything about it, except for another
> perl.core file existing in the /var/log dir as well!

This can happen, when a script uses a broken perl extension module.
It's not necessarily perl's fault. Try to identify the script that
triggers those coredumps, then look at the extension modules used
by that script. You may then want to recompile (an updated version of)
the extension module, so that it matches the version of your current
perl installation.

Good luck.

> Chris Bearden

Cheers,
cpghost.

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