FreeBSD Newsletters

[Michael T. Almario]

Greetings,

 

I would just like to find out if you send out FreeBSD newsletters.  If so,
how do we subscribe?  

 

Thanks,

-Mike

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Re: Mail client like mulberry

[Andreas Rudisch]

On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 00:40:14 +0100, Paul Schmehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:


--On March 14, 2006 4:32:23 PM -0700 "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC"  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Kind of like the idea of a dynamic "smart folder" where the criterion   
is other folders with new mail?


Exactly.  Instead of copying new mail to a Favorites folder or  
displaying *all* Favorites folders, this folder only displays a folder  
if there's new mail in it.


Do you have a MUA in mind?


You could give the build-in email client of Opera - M2 a try (pop3, imap,
rss, atom, newsgroup support). It saves emails only once, has very nice
filters, auto-identifies mailing lists. Unread messages have their own
folder, once read they go to the correct view. All messages are indexed
and saved in a database. Find-as-you-type is very nice and fast.

Active contacts/threads are put in a seperate view, so they can be found
easily. Sort/search by label you have given to an email or by attachment.
etc.

Just take a look here and test it yourself:
http://www.opera.com/support/tutorials/mail/

BUT one thing is missing and might be the 'showstopper' for you, SMIME/PGP.
Hopefully this will be added in the near future, since they have already
changed the client a bit for Opera version 9.0.

Right now M2 is a good cross-plattform email client, when PGP will finally
be added it should be a _very_ good one.

Andreas
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Re: some questions about fsck, loader.conf

[Dan Nelson]

In the last episode (Mar 15), Chris said:
> I tried verbose_loading="YES" in loader.conf and expected the
> /var/run/dmesg.boot to be more detailed but there was no change, what
> does this switch do if it doesnt change the bootup dmesg output?

I think you want boot_verbose="YES".  verbose_loading only makes
/boot/loader itself more verbose.
 
> In rc.conf I have enabled fsck_y_enable="YES" to allow unattended
> fsck fixes after improper shutdown but I have noticed there are some
> problems remaining as shown by a read only fsck.  Does the above
> switch not fix all problems or is it the case the fsck bootup script
> only does partial tests?

A read-only fsck of a mounted filesystem will never come back clean,
since the filesystem's mounted :)

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Re: Disappointed with version 6.0

[Beech Rintoul]

On Tuesday 14 March 2006 22:00, Chris wrote:
> On 14/03/06, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >-Original Message-
> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Peter
> > >Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 8:58 PM
> > >To: freebsd-questions
> > >Subject: Disappointed with version 6.0
> > >
> > >
> > >I'm setting up a new server on 6.0 I've been planning for a long time
> > >and I am very disappointed with two critical issues.  My motherboard is
> > >the ASUS K8V-X SE that I chose because it was listed as compatible at
> > >the FreeBSD/amd64 Project:
> > >
> > >http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/amd64/motherboards.html
> >
> > Peter,
> >
> >  That's really a poor choice as a server board.  That is basically
> > a low-end desktop board.  VIA isn't known for making top of the
> > line chipsets.
> >
> >  I don't know if you have a particular favorite of ASUS, but if your
> > selecting a motherboard to build a server around from ASUS's product
> > line you have to dig a bit.  ASUS has some server motherboards but
> > they bury them in their product linueup.  Some of the keys to look for
> > are the existence of RAID on the motherboard, or the name "Premium"
> > and stay away from any board marketed "for gamers" as a lot of ASUS
> > boards are.
> >
> >  For example, a typical ASUS motherboard positioned for the server
> > market is the P5WD2-E Premium
> >
> > >I wonder if going back to 5.4 might help?
> > >
> > >Onto the problems...
> > >
> > >1. I have 4 IDE drives:
> > >
> > >primary controller: Maxtor 40 GB hd (master) and LG cdrom (slave)
> > >secondary controller: Seagate Barracuda 200 GB hd (master) and Seagate
> > >Barracuda 300 GB (slave)
> > >
> > >Problem: The 300 GB drive is unusable.
> > >
> > >I set it up ok with sysinstall during the installation but the system
> > >will not boot properly if it has an entry in /etc/fstab.  I get many
> > >errors like:
> > >
> > >"ad3: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=63"
> >
> > What happens if you set the 300GB as the master on that controller
> > and do not plug in the 200GB unit?
> >
> > >I also get input/output error if I try to examine its label with
> > >disklabel.
> > >
> > >dmesg output is at the end of this post when I booted without fstab
> > >line.
> > >
> > >The strange thing is that the two drives on the secondary controller
> > >are so similar.  Same manufacturer, same product line, the speeds are
> > >the same.  Everything is the same except the size.  I ran dos-level
> > >diagnostics on it and no problems were found.
> > >
> > >2.  I can't use my USB ports!
> >
> > What in God's name is a USB peripheral doing on a server?
> >
> > I've said it before and I'll say it again, this is why you pay people
> > to build clones for you.  The motherboard manufacturers these days are
> > coming out with a huge variety of products, and you have to do a lot of
> > digging through their stuff to find the gems among the junk.
> >
> > The professional white box builders out there deal with problems like
> > yours by returning the motherboard to their distributors and getting
> > a different model, and testing that.  Sometimes they will go through
> > 4 -5 motherboard models before they find one they feel is a good one.
> > Then 6 months later the motherboard manufacturers discontinue that model
> > and they have to go through the same process again.  If you want to play
> > in that space you need to do it the same way they do.  If you don't have
> > the financial resources to do that, then you shouldn't be doing it.
> > Instead, find a local computer shop that you can pay a few hundred
> > bucks more than it would cost you to get all the little parts and pieces
> > separately, and who will warranty the thing.  It is well worth it.
> >
> > >I get a line like this for each of my ports:
> >
> > You are wasting time.  Return the motherboard and get another.  Repeat
> > the process until it works.
> >
> > Ted
>
> Sounds harsh, a low end board may have performance problems and less
> capability but it shouldnt justify an operating system not working, or
> are only high end boards supported?
>
Actually, FreeBSD will support most boards with mainstream chipsets. But that 
was good advice from Ted. I tried that same board a couple of months ago. I 
had many of the same problems. After banging my head on that brick wall for a 
few days I took it back. A high end board wasn't in the budget so I went with 
a MSI KT-8 Neo which I have had 0 problems with.

Beech
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some questions about fsck, loader.conf

[Chris]

Hi

I tried verbose_loading="YES" in loader.conf and expected the
/var/run/dmesg.boot to be more detailed but there was no change, what
does this switch do if it doesnt change the bootup dmesg output?

In rc.conf I have enabled fsck_y_enable="YES" to allow unattended fsck
fixes after improper shutdown but I have noticed there are some
problems remaining as shown by a read only fsck.  Does the above
switch not fix all problems or is it the case the fsck bootup script
only does partial tests?

Can I do a full fsck test and fix on a remote machine without needing
a local tech to boot the machine in single user mode?

Thanks

Chris
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Re: Thunderbird + Mozilla Suite

[Duane Whitty]

Andrey V. Semyonov wrote:
Is it possible and what docs do describe setting a mozilla-bin from 
Mozilla Suite as URL-browser in Thunderbird?


Mozilla Suite and Thunderbird are installed from ports.
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Hi Andrey,

Yes it is possible.  The first step is to check if the
proper configuration entry is present.

In Thunderbird, from the menu bar, choose
Edit, Preferences, Advanced, Config Editor.
In the filter bar, type
network.protocol-handler
Check the entries under Preference Name for
network.protocol-handler.app.http
If it is there right click on it and choose modify
Now enter the path to the file which launches the browser
you want to use.  For a mozilla related program it is probably
under /usr/X11R6/bin/

For example, the Mozilla Firefox  launcher is
found at /usr/X11R6/bin/firefox

(sorry, I'm running firefox right now so I can not say
with absolute certainty where the mozilla-suite binary
is located)

If you did not find an entry named
network.protocol-handler.app.http then
right click on any entry under Preference Name.
Choose New, String.
When you are prompted for the new string type
network.protocol-handler.app.http
When you are prompted for the new value enter the path
of the mozilla web browser launcher.

Follow the same procedures as above to enable support for https.
Everywhere you typed http above type https instead.

I hope this helps.

--Duane Whitty
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Re: Disappointed with version 6.0

[Chris]

On 14/03/06, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Peter
> >Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 8:58 PM
> >To: freebsd-questions
> >Subject: Disappointed with version 6.0
> >
> >
> >I'm setting up a new server on 6.0 I've been planning for a long time
> >and I am very disappointed with two critical issues.  My motherboard is
> >the ASUS K8V-X SE that I chose because it was listed as compatible at
> >the FreeBSD/amd64 Project:
> >
> >http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/amd64/motherboards.html
> >
>
> Peter,
>
>  That's really a poor choice as a server board.  That is basically
> a low-end desktop board.  VIA isn't known for making top of the
> line chipsets.
>
>  I don't know if you have a particular favorite of ASUS, but if your
> selecting a motherboard to build a server around from ASUS's product
> line you have to dig a bit.  ASUS has some server motherboards but
> they bury them in their product linueup.  Some of the keys to look for
> are the existence of RAID on the motherboard, or the name "Premium"
> and stay away from any board marketed "for gamers" as a lot of ASUS
> boards are.
>
>  For example, a typical ASUS motherboard positioned for the server
> market is the P5WD2-E Premium
>
> >I wonder if going back to 5.4 might help?
> >
> >Onto the problems...
> >
> >1. I have 4 IDE drives:
> >
> >primary controller: Maxtor 40 GB hd (master) and LG cdrom (slave)
> >secondary controller: Seagate Barracuda 200 GB hd (master) and Seagate
> >Barracuda 300 GB (slave)
> >
> >Problem: The 300 GB drive is unusable.
> >
> >I set it up ok with sysinstall during the installation but the system
> >will not boot properly if it has an entry in /etc/fstab.  I get many
> >errors like:
> >
> >"ad3: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=63"
> >
>
> What happens if you set the 300GB as the master on that controller
> and do not plug in the 200GB unit?
>
> >I also get input/output error if I try to examine its label with
> >disklabel.
> >
> >dmesg output is at the end of this post when I booted without fstab
> >line.
> >
> >The strange thing is that the two drives on the secondary controller
> >are so similar.  Same manufacturer, same product line, the speeds are
> >the same.  Everything is the same except the size.  I ran dos-level
> >diagnostics on it and no problems were found.
> >
> >2.  I can't use my USB ports!
> >
>
> What in God's name is a USB peripheral doing on a server?
>
> I've said it before and I'll say it again, this is why you pay people
> to build clones for you.  The motherboard manufacturers these days are
> coming out with a huge variety of products, and you have to do a lot of
> digging through their stuff to find the gems among the junk.
>
> The professional white box builders out there deal with problems like
> yours by returning the motherboard to their distributors and getting
> a different model, and testing that.  Sometimes they will go through
> 4 -5 motherboard models before they find one they feel is a good one.
> Then 6 months later the motherboard manufacturers discontinue that model
> and they have to go through the same process again.  If you want to play
> in that space you need to do it the same way they do.  If you don't have
> the financial resources to do that, then you shouldn't be doing it.
> Instead, find a local computer shop that you can pay a few hundred
> bucks more than it would cost you to get all the little parts and pieces
> separately, and who will warranty the thing.  It is well worth it.
>
> >I get a line like this for each of my ports:
> >
>
> You are wasting time.  Return the motherboard and get another.  Repeat
> the process until it works.
>
> Ted

Sounds harsh, a low end board may have performance problems and less
capability but it shouldnt justify an operating system not working, or
are only high end boards supported?

Chris
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Re: aureal-kmod woes

[Ariff Abdullah]

On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 21:56:24 -0500
"Anthony M. Agelastos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I am running a 6-STABLE machine that I updated several days ago.
> When   the aureal-kmod port is shut down, it tells me about a memory
> leak   (see below). Being paranoid, I removed aureal-kmod from my
> system,   reinstalled the OS, and then installed aureal-kmod and the
> problem   persists. Any ideas?
> 
> dell# ./aureal.sh stop
> pcm0: detached
> Warning: memory type PCMaucore leaked memory on destroy (3  
> allocations, 144 byte
> s leaked).
> aureal-kmod
> 
> %uname -a
> FreeBSD dell.home.iq 6.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-PRERELEASE #0: Mon  
> Mar 13 07:44:55 EST 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/
> 
> IQKERNEL  i386
> 

So.. does it cause anything bad *especially during runtime* ?


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Thunderbird + Mozilla Suite

[Andrey V. Semyonov]

Is it possible and what docs do describe setting a mozilla-bin from 
Mozilla Suite as URL-browser in Thunderbird?


Mozilla Suite and Thunderbird are installed from ports.
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Ask for your recommended system & network monitoring system.

[Supote Leelasupphakorn]

Hi all

  I'm currently run FreeBSD 4.11 on my box for a year
and very impress its performance. Now I'd like to monitor
disk space, system and network status of some servers at
work via web-based.

Any monitor tool you are using or recommended ?

TIA
pjn


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Problem installing FreeBSD 6.0 on IBM ThinkCentre 8136-KSQ

[Martin Alejandro Paredes Sanchez]

Hi:

The problem is that the network card is not detected, is a network card 
Boradcom in the mother board. I see a chip with this numbers:

Broadcom
BCM5751FKFB
HS0521 P21
744910 N

Whit "dmesg | grep -i ethe" I got:

pci2:  at device 0.0 (no driver attached)

With "pciconf -lv" I got:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:0: class=0x02 card=0x02f71014 chip=0x167e14e4 rev=0x11 
hdr=0x00
    vendor   = 'Broadcom Corporation'
    device   = 'BCM5751F NetXtreme Fast Ethernet PCI Express'
    class    = network
    subclass = ethernet

The manual for bge(4), says:

bge -- Broadcom BCM570x/5714/5721/5750/5751/5789 PCI Gigabit Ethernet adapter 
driver

is this nic supported?

TIA
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Re: Apache appears to not really be starting?

[Huy Ton That]

problem fixed!!! thank you so much for the insight!

On 3/14/06, Robert Huff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Huy Ton That writes:
>
> >  apachectl -k start -f /usr/local/etc/apache22/httpd.conf
>
> First of all, this is - I believe - not the recommended way to
> start apache.  Instaed use the script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d.
>
> >  After doing a tail /var/log/httpd-error.log I get the following output:
> >
> >  [Tue Mar 14 22:25:26 2006] [warn] Init: Session Cache is not configured
> >  [hint: SSLSessionCache]
> >  [Tue Mar 14 22:25:26 2006] [alert] (EAI 8)hostname nor servname
> provided, or
> >  not known: mod_unique_id: unable to find IPv4 address of "Orestes.CASO"
> >  Configuration Failed
> >  [Tue Mar 14 22:26:32 2006] [warn] Init: Session Cache is not configured
> >  [hint: SSLSessionCache]
> >  [Tue Mar 14 22:26:32 2006] [alert] (EAI 8)hostname nor servname
> provided, or
> >  not known: mod_unique_id: unable to find IPv4 address of "Orestes.CASO"
> >  Configuration Failed
> >  [Tue Mar 14 22:28:00 2006] [warn] Init: Session Cache is not configured
> >  [hint: SSLSessionCache]
> >  [Tue Mar 14 22:28:00 2006] [alert] (EAI 8)hostname nor servname
> provided, or
> >  not known: mod_unique_id: unable to find IPv4 address of "Orestes.CASO"
> >  Configuration Failed
> >
> >  Also I've tried replacing 127.0.0.1 with the the ip address for
> >  the incoming connection nic card and I receive the same results.
> >
> >  Would anyone have any clues as to what I may be missing?
>
> You mean like this?
>
> [Mon Mar 13 11:07:53 2006] [alert] (EAI 8)hostname nor servname
> provided, or not known: mod_unique_id: unable to find IPv4 address
> of "jerusalem.litteratus.org" Configuration Failed
>
> This happened after upgrading to:
>
> FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #0: Mon Mar 13 09:23:39 EST 2006
>
> Two suggestions:
> 1) check that all interfaces apache is supposed to be listening
> on exist.  For some reason one of mine didn't.
> 2) make sure your hostname is DNS-resolvable.  (Even if this is
> not visible to the Internet, it still needs to reaolve.)
>
>
> Robert Huff
>
>
>
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Apache appears to not really be starting?

[Robert Huff]

Huy Ton That writes:

>  apachectl -k start -f /usr/local/etc/apache22/httpd.conf

First of all, this is - I believe - not the recommended way to
start apache.  Instaed use the script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d.

>  After doing a tail /var/log/httpd-error.log I get the following output:
>  
>  [Tue Mar 14 22:25:26 2006] [warn] Init: Session Cache is not configured
>  [hint: SSLSessionCache]
>  [Tue Mar 14 22:25:26 2006] [alert] (EAI 8)hostname nor servname provided, or
>  not known: mod_unique_id: unable to find IPv4 address of "Orestes.CASO"
>  Configuration Failed
>  [Tue Mar 14 22:26:32 2006] [warn] Init: Session Cache is not configured
>  [hint: SSLSessionCache]
>  [Tue Mar 14 22:26:32 2006] [alert] (EAI 8)hostname nor servname provided, or
>  not known: mod_unique_id: unable to find IPv4 address of "Orestes.CASO"
>  Configuration Failed
>  [Tue Mar 14 22:28:00 2006] [warn] Init: Session Cache is not configured
>  [hint: SSLSessionCache]
>  [Tue Mar 14 22:28:00 2006] [alert] (EAI 8)hostname nor servname provided, or
>  not known: mod_unique_id: unable to find IPv4 address of "Orestes.CASO"
>  Configuration Failed
>  
>  Also I've tried replacing 127.0.0.1 with the the ip address for
>  the incoming connection nic card and I receive the same results.
>  
>  Would anyone have any clues as to what I may be missing?

You mean like this?

[Mon Mar 13 11:07:53 2006] [alert] (EAI 8)hostname nor servname
provided, or not known: mod_unique_id: unable to find IPv4 address
of "jerusalem.litteratus.org" Configuration Failed 

This happened after upgrading to:

FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #0: Mon Mar 13 09:23:39 EST 2006

Two suggestions:
1) check that all interfaces apache is supposed to be listening
on exist.  For some reason one of mine didn't.
2) make sure your hostname is DNS-resolvable.  (Even if this is
not visible to the Internet, it still needs to reaolve.)


Robert Huff



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Apache appears to not really be starting?

[Huy Ton That]

Installed apache2.2

I launch via apachectl w/:

apachectl -k start -f /usr/local/etc/apache22/httpd.conf

Edited httpd.conf and pointed the ips to 127.0.0.1:81 as I wanted to use
this port for a specific reason.

Executing this I get no errors however apache doesn't show under ps (noticed
this since I tried to do a stop and restart and just received the message:
httpd (no pid file) not running :( )

After doing a tail /var/log/httpd-error.log I get the following output:

[Tue Mar 14 22:25:26 2006] [warn] Init: Session Cache is not configured
[hint: SSLSessionCache]
[Tue Mar 14 22:25:26 2006] [alert] (EAI 8)hostname nor servname provided, or
not known: mod_unique_id: unable to find IPv4 address of "Orestes.CASO"
Configuration Failed
[Tue Mar 14 22:26:32 2006] [warn] Init: Session Cache is not configured
[hint: SSLSessionCache]
[Tue Mar 14 22:26:32 2006] [alert] (EAI 8)hostname nor servname provided, or
not known: mod_unique_id: unable to find IPv4 address of "Orestes.CASO"
Configuration Failed
[Tue Mar 14 22:28:00 2006] [warn] Init: Session Cache is not configured
[hint: SSLSessionCache]
[Tue Mar 14 22:28:00 2006] [alert] (EAI 8)hostname nor servname provided, or
not known: mod_unique_id: unable to find IPv4 address of "Orestes.CASO"
Configuration Failed

Also I've tried replacing 127.0.0.1 with the the ip address for the incoming
connection nic card and I receive the same results.

Would anyone have any clues as to what I may be missing?

I also have
Listen localhost:81
ServerName localhost:81
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aureal-kmod woes

[Anthony M. Agelastos]

Hello everyone,

I am running a 6-STABLE machine that I updated several days ago. When  
the aureal-kmod port is shut down, it tells me about a memory leak  
(see below). Being paranoid, I removed aureal-kmod from my system,  
reinstalled the OS, and then installed aureal-kmod and the problem  
persists. Any ideas?


dell# ./aureal.sh stop
pcm0: detached
Warning: memory type PCMaucore leaked memory on destroy (3  
allocations, 144 byte

s leaked).
aureal-kmod

%uname -a
FreeBSD dell.home.iq 6.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-PRERELEASE #0: Mon  
Mar 13 07:44:55 EST 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ 
IQKERNEL  i386



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Re: Motherboards & FreeBSD [used to be "RE: Disappointed with version 6.0"]

[Norberto Meijome]

On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 20:53:00 -0500 (EST)
Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Is there a secret resource I haven't found? 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] + its archives

FWIW, we have a TYAN dual opteron box, 4 x SATA drives, 1 RU, works a
treat. I think it's the something-24 model. search the archives for
more info.
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Motherboards & FreeBSD [used to be "RE: Disappointed with version 6.0"]

[Peter]

--- Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >I'm setting up a new server on 6.0 I've been planning for a long
> time
> >and I am very disappointed with two critical issues.  My motherboard
> is
> >the ASUS K8V-X SE that I chose because it was listed as compatible
> at
> >the FreeBSD/amd64 Project:
> >
> >http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/amd64/motherboards.html
> >
> 
> Peter,
> 
>   That's really a poor choice as a server board.

You get right to the point don't you?  :|

>   I don't know if you have a particular favorite of ASUS, but if your
> selecting a motherboard to build a server around from ASUS's product
> line you have to dig a bit.

I don't mind digging a bit; I actually lean towards quality.  And I'm
not partial towards any one maker either.  My main issue is in
identifying boards that will have their components recognized by
FreeBSD.  Is there a secret resource I haven't found?  Please oblige.

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Re: RC scripts HOWTO

[Andrew]

http://www.netbsd.org/guide/en/chap-rc.html#chap-rc-reading may be of
some help. I believe the current system came from, or was at least
largely inspired by the NetBSD rc.d scripts.

-Andrew

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> > Can't seem to find in handbook or google.
> 
> man pages for rc and rcorder not provide what you are looking for either?
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Re: Using 'incorrect' HD geometry.

[John Murphy]

Jerry McAllister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Nowdays, the geometry on the drives seems to be 'virtual' and so
>you should just let the installer/fdisk do what it wants and leave
>it that way.   If it doesn't work the way the installer wants to
>then there may be a problem.  But if it works, just ignore the warnings.

Thanks Jerry.  I'm so paranoid about messing up the other OS on the HD
though.  The installer's fdisk suggests an entirely different layout to
everything else I've seen:

Geometry 9729/255/63 = 156296385 sectors (76316 MB)
Offset  Size(ST)   EndName   PType  DescSubtype   Flags
 0 63 62  -  12 unused  0
6359812205981282  ad0s1   7 fat 11
   5981283   13971447   19952729  ad0s2   8 freebsd 165
  19952730   5670   19958399  -  12 unused  0
  19958400  136337040  156295439  ad0s3   4 extended DOS, LBA 15
 156295440   6048  156301487  -  12 unused  0

If I just immediately 'Q'uit the darned thing will it not make any
changes to global drive geometry? It would probably take me several
days to get my win2k installation back to how it is now, if I lost it.

All I really want is for the installer to use the freebsd slice as is.

I'm tempted to just try UPGRADING but mergemaster always confuses me.

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Re: no serial port: "configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs"

[Jack Stone]

From: Gardner Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: no serial port: "configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed 
irqs"

Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:05:21 -0500 (EST)

--- Jack Stone wrote:
> >--- Erik Trulsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> I'm having the same problem with new SATA Abit MBs. No matter what I
> do to
> tweak the BIOS, I get your identical message. There is no active
> serial
> port, even though I added a serial port card.
>
> Really need it too as my APC UPSes need that serial port.
>
> I've seen this problem posted before and wonder if anyone finally
> found a
> solution?
>
> Regards,
> Jack
>

I ran into this message the other day after recompiling my kernel
without "device atpic".  Try adding that to your kernel configuration
file to see if it solves your problems.

Gardner Bell


Yeah, already have that device in the kernel...

Thanks, tho.

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Re: Mail client like mulberry

[Norberto Meijome]

On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 17:44:32 -0600
Paul Schmehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> >
> > and I have all my folders with new email in a nice bright blue (vs.
> > grey for folders w no unread email, and black for folders with
> > unread email, but no new email)
> >
> But can it show all folders with new mail *only*?

Not that I know of. Write a plugin for it ? ;) 
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UFS and USB Chasis

[jhall]

In the near future, I will be doing FreeBSD server upgrades.  I am looking
for a utility with will allow me to read a FreeBSD drive, in a USB chasis
connected to my Windows PC.

I have found some utilities which will allow me to accomplish this on a
desktop computer, using IDE interfaces, but nothing I have been able to
make work when using a USB chasis.

Thanks in advance for your help.



Jay

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Re: HI plotter (was Re: Help)

[Chris Hill]

On Tue, 14 Mar 2006, hackmiester / Hunter Fuller wrote:


On Tuesday 14 March 2006 17:25, Chris Hill wrote:

On Sun, 12 Mar 2006, REINALDO JIMENEZ wrote:

[ A more descriptive subject line is more likely to get you an answer.
Lots of people delete 'Help' without reading. ]


My friend has a Houston Instrument Plotter Model DMP-50 and can not
get it running to print his school work (AutoCAD DWGs)

Need driver? What he should look for?


If your AutoCAD is anything like recent, you're running it under
Windows.



Au contraire, or however you spell it! I am running 2005 under wine.


You spelled it right. Beg pardon, I should have said that AutoCAD 
*thinks* it's running under Windows. I'm sure one could get it working 
under qemu or VMware as well. Point being that when you buy it you get a 
binary whose name ends in ".exe".


One of the big appeals of AutoCAD (for me) used to be that it was 
available *natively* for many different platforms, including MacOS, at 
least one flavor of UNIX, and I think VMS, as well as Win/DOS. Those 
days are long gone.


Any help for the OP, or are we just chatting?


Autodesk haven't supported any other platform since Release 13,
which was about 10 years ago.

I set up something like this years ago, using an HI DMP-61 with FreeBSD
3.2 or 3.3. What I did was to install Samba on the FreeBSD machine, and
set it up to 'share' the plotter (connected on an RS232 port) as a
printer. Then the Windows clients were able to see the plotter as a
networked printer, and use the native AutoCAD driver for that plotter.
The FreeBSD machine was pretty much acting as a print server for that
plotter.

Sorry to be so vague, but it was a long time ago. Hope this gets you
pointed in the right direction.

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Re: no serial port: "configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs"

[Gardner Bell]

--- Jack Stone wrote:
> >--- Erik Trulsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 01:15:57PM -0500, Peter wrote:
> > > > I cannot get FreeBSD 6.0 to recognize my serial port.  I am
> using
> > > the
> > > > ASUS K8V-X SE motherboard[1].  It only has serial port but
> dmesg
> > > > suggests there are two:
> > > >
> > > > sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
> > > > sio0: port may not be enabled
> > > > sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags
> > > 0x10 on
> > > > acpi0
> > > > sio0: type 16550A
> > > > sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
> > > > sio1: port may not be enabled
> > >
> > > It looks like FreeBSD found one serial port (si0) and looked for
> > > another
> > > (sio1) but didn't find it (which is not surprising if it is not
> > > there).
> > >
> > > >
> > > > In the end I have no port:
> > > >
> > > > $ ls -lh /dev/cua*
> > > > crw-rw  1 uucp  dialer0,  42 Mar 13 03:59 /dev/cuad0
> > > > crw-rw  1 uucp  dialer0,  43 Mar 13 03:59
> /dev/cuad0.init
> > > > crw-rw  1 uucp  dialer0,  44 Mar 13 03:59
> /dev/cuad0.lock
> > >
> > > And one port (the one detected as sio0) appears in /dev also
> > > according to
> > > the above.
> > >
> > > There is one serial port and FreeBSD finds it.
> > >
> > > I don't see the problem.
> >
> >Ok thank you.  My conclusion was based on the combination of the
> >error-like messages ("port may not be enabled") and my experience
> with
> >FreeBSD (that it assigns /dev/cuaa{0,1} to its serial devices).
> >
> 
> I'm having the same problem with new SATA Abit MBs. No matter what I
> do to 
> tweak the BIOS, I get your identical message. There is no active
> serial 
> port, even though I added a serial port card.
> 
> Really need it too as my APC UPSes need that serial port.
> 
> I've seen this problem posted before and wonder if anyone finally
> found a 
> solution?
> 
> Regards,
> Jack
> 

I ran into this message the other day after recompiling my kernel
without "device atpic".  Try adding that to your kernel configuration
file to see if it solves your problems.

Gardner Bell
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Still can't boot on 6.0-STABLE > Nov 2005 or 6.1-BETA

[James Seward]

Hello folks,

A while back (January) I posted to the list about a problem I had
booting 6.0-STABLE built with sources after about November 2005 on my
workstation.

Since that point, and including (I have now discovered) 6.1-PRERELEASE
(as my freshly built kernel identified itself just now), I can't boot.
At the point where the kernel should mount my root fs and continue
booting, it decides it can't see any disks other than fd0, and
presents me with a "mountroot>" prompt.

Looking through the scrollback, it correctly identifies my ata
controllers earlier in the boot process.

A boot -v (captured over serial) is available here:
http://sakaki.jamesoff.net/~james/dmesg-broken.txt

A successful boot is available here:
http://sakaki.jamesoff.net/~james/dmesg-working.txt

When I get to the mountroot> prompt, my IDE light is stuck on solid.

At the time I initially reported this problem I was running amd64. I
have since moved back to i386 (mainly for things like nvidia-driver
and win32-codecs), but the problem persists :(

My motherboard is an A8V-E Deluxe, and my disks are on both IDE and
SATA; the IDE disk plays no role in my FreeBSD boot (it has WinXP on
it). FreeBSD lives on my SATA drives. 5.3 and 5.4, as well as WinXP,
have no problems with the disks. I'm not doing anything funky like
RAID or geom.

I did try posting a PR for this a while back, but it never even seemed
to be recorded.

If I'm sending this request the wrong way, please let me know! I'd
love to help get this fixed so I can take advantage of the latest and
greatest on this machine :)

Thanks in advance,
James
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Re: Mail client like mulberry

[Donald J. O'Neill]

On Tuesday 14 March 2006 17:39, Norberto Meijome wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 13:15:07 -0600
>
> "Donald J. O'Neill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > It doesn't filter folders, however it has a "Next Unread Folder"
> > > command, which makes it directly switch to the next folder with
> > > unread messages in it.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Benjamin
> >
> > Yes, Kmail does filter folders, if you're talking about filtering
> > messages that come in from e-lists (such as questions@) and moving
> > them to a designated folder. The filters are easy to set up.
>
> I think the original poster meant the virtual folders that only show
> folders with new email - not email filtering (which is, I'd say, a
> must have feature of any software worth calling itself mail client).
>
> > The
> > folders can show how many messages are in the folder,how many are
> > new and will decrement the new filter count as they are accessed.
> > It can also remove duplicate messages from a folder.
>
> sylpheed-claws can do all this, as well as creating processing (as
> well as filters, of course) rules (which I have NO idea how or what
> to use it for ...but i does sound cool :D). supports IMAP and
> identities, like thunderbird. IMAP is not a problem at all.
>
> and I have all my folders with new email in a nice bright blue (vs.
> grey for folders w no unread email, and black for folders with unread
> email, but no new email)
>
> PGP inline and SMIME works great too.
>
> > It is one heck of an e-mail client and I haven't found anything to
> > touch it.

When you subscribe to a lot of e-lists (I subscribe to about35) and you 
get a lot messages coming in, you learn really quick about filter rules 
and how handy they are.

I used sylpheed-claws a number of years ago and it was very good. I used 
it for a bit. There is also evolution, I haven't looked at it in a 
while. I may want to look at them again.

Don
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Re: HI plotter (was Re: Help)

[hackmiester / Hunter Fuller]

On Tuesday 14 March 2006 17:25, Chris Hill wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Mar 2006, REINALDO JIMENEZ wrote:
>
> [ A more descriptive subject line is more likely to get you an answer.
> Lots of people delete 'Help' without reading. ]
>
> > My friend has a Houston Instrument Plotter Model DMP-50 and can not
> > get it running to print his school work (AutoCAD DWGs)
> >
> > Need driver? What he should look for?
>
> If your AutoCAD is anything like recent, you're running it under
> Windows.
Au contraire, or however you spell it! I am running 2005 under wine.
> Autodesk haven't supported any other platform since Release 13, 
> which was about 10 years ago.
>
> I set up something like this years ago, using an HI DMP-61 with FreeBSD
> 3.2 or 3.3. What I did was to install Samba on the FreeBSD machine, and
> set it up to 'share' the plotter (connected on an RS232 port) as a
> printer. Then the Windows clients were able to see the plotter as a
> networked printer, and use the native AutoCAD driver for that plotter.
> The FreeBSD machine was pretty much acting as a print server for that
> plotter.
>
> Sorry to be so vague, but it was a long time ago. Hope this gets you
> pointed in the right direction.
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Re: Mail client like mulberry

[Paul Schmehl]

--On March 15, 2006 10:39:11 AM +1100 Norberto Meijome 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


sylpheed-claws can do all this, as well as creating processing (as well
as filters, of course) rules (which I have NO idea how or what to use it
for ...but i does sound cool :D). supports IMAP and identities,
like thunderbird. IMAP is not a problem at all.


I'm installing it now.


and I have all my folders with new email in a nice bright blue (vs.
grey for folders w no unread email, and black for folders with unread
email, but no new email)


But can it show all folders with new mail *only*?

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Re: Mail client like mulberry

[Paul Schmehl]

--On March 14, 2006 4:32:23 PM -0700 "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" 
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On Mar 14, 2006, at 3:39 PM, Paul Schmehl wrote:


On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:55:07 -0500
Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Have you looked at Sylpheed?  I don't know how closely it will match
the behaviour that you're used to, but it talks nicely to every IMAP
server I've ever seen, and it turns the folders with new messages
red.


The problem is, I have about 250 folders.  Scrolling through them
is a PITA, so I'd like to have the same, or similar, functionality
that I had with Mulberry.

Mulberry has a favorites folder, called "New Messages", that only
displays folders with new mail in them.


Kind of like the idea of a dynamic "smart folder" where the criterion  is
other folders with new mail?

Exactly.  Instead of copying new mail to a Favorites folder or displaying 
*all* Favorites folders, this folder only displays a folder if there's new 
mail in it.


Do you have a MUA in mind?

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Re: Mail client like mulberry

[Bill Campbell]

On Tue, Mar 14, 2006, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote:
>
>On Mar 14, 2006, at 3:39 PM, Paul Schmehl wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:55:07 -0500
>>Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>Have you looked at Sylpheed?  I don't know how closely it will match
>>>the behaviour that you're used to, but it talks nicely to every IMAP
>>>server I've ever seen, and it turns the folders with new messages
>>>red.
>>>
>>The problem is, I have about 250 folders.  Scrolling through them  
>>is a PITA, so I'd like to have the same, or similar, functionality  
>>that I had with Mulberry.
>>
>>Mulberry has a favorites folder, called "New Messages", that only  
>>displays folders with new mail in them.
>
>Kind of like the idea of a dynamic "smart folder" where the criterion  
>is other folders with new mail?

Apple's Mail.app has this with smart folders, but I find it very
slow with mail folders containing thousands of messages.

Thunderbird is much faster than that, but I don't know of any way
to get this ability -- although there may well be.

The horde/imp webmail program makes it easy to create virtual
folders which are really stored searches allowing one to select
unread mail from one or more folders.

On the other hand, I read the vast majoriy of my e-mail on our
freebsd server using mutt in ssh from whatever machine I'm on.

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Re: mail backup solution?

[Norberto Meijome]

On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:38:47 -0500
Mike Jeays <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

re. server side backup, 
 a) if you can't have shell access to the box, rsync is kind of out of
the question
 b) If your mail is hosted alongside your website, which is managed by
one of the many control panels (cpanel, plesk, ensim), you should be
able to generate a backup via the control panel interface. YMMV
 c) Do a backup from your local copy (after doing a download all msgs,
which should still leave the mails in the server) - see below for how I
do it
 d) Perl + some IMAP module to download each email and back it up? I
dont see how this would be any better than c) really.

> 
> Using Evolution, I made a tar backup of the .evolution directory, and
> copied it to another machine.  It came nowhere close to working
> properly, 

maybe your local copy of emails (aka imapcache) is located elsewhere?)

> and was about as annoying to work with as Outlook

those that try to imitate a product will probably suffer some of the
same issues, imho

>. It
> behaved just like a proprietary product with mysterious file formats,
> even though the mailbox files themselves seem to be clean mboxes.  It
> must keep configuration data hidden somewhere else.  I am pretty well
> fed up with the product, and may switch to Thunderbird.
 
interestingly enough, I recently switched from Thunderbird to
sylpheed-claws. I know it's probably not so active, but it seems a lot
more powerful, and it supports MH (working on getting the Maildir
plugin to compile properly). It (sylpheed-claws) reminds me of good old
XFMail, which I had used for a long while before Thunderb.

FWIW, I have 9 email accounts (a few with different identities). Work
related email is from an Exchange server - I tried Evolution + its
exchange plugin and it just wouldnt work, so I moved on.
Anyway, Work's IMAP cache is a symlink to a subdir in my GELI disk
(this is a laptop after all). Work's local copies are also in the GELI
disk.

For backing up on the client side, I simply rsync to another box my
~/.sylpheed-claws, my GELI md device and the tar ball of the local
copy my  non-work emails (faster than transferring thousands of
individual mails - MH format...). This is part of my laptop backup
script (could be using dump, but i only need a small portion of the
filesystem... setting nodump in most of the box is rather silly)


> Or have I failed to understand something?

maybe u should start by reading the config file and following through
with each path mentioned,etc... it worked for me (tm) for 
Thunderbird, (FFox) and sylpheed

good luck,
Beto
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Re: Mail client like mulberry

[Norberto Meijome]

On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 13:15:07 -0600
"Donald J. O'Neill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > It doesn't filter folders, however it has a "Next Unread Folder"
> > command, which makes it directly switch to the next folder with
> > unread messages in it.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Benjamin
> 
> 
> Yes, Kmail does filter folders, if you're talking about filtering 
> messages that come in from e-lists (such as questions@) and moving
> them to a designated folder. The filters are easy to set up. 

I think the original poster meant the virtual folders that only show
folders with new email - not email filtering (which is, I'd say, a
must have feature of any software worth calling itself mail client).

> The
> folders can show how many messages are in the folder,how many are new
> and will decrement the new filter count as they are accessed. It can
> also remove duplicate messages from a folder.

sylpheed-claws can do all this, as well as creating processing (as well
as filters, of course) rules (which I have NO idea how or what to use it
for ...but i does sound cool :D). supports IMAP and identities,
like thunderbird. IMAP is not a problem at all.

and I have all my folders with new email in a nice bright blue (vs.
grey for folders w no unread email, and black for folders with unread
email, but no new email)

PGP inline and SMIME works great too.

> 
> It is one heck of an e-mail client and I haven't found anything to
> touch it.
> 
> 
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Re: Mail client like mulberry

[Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC]

On Mar 14, 2006, at 3:39 PM, Paul Schmehl wrote:


On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:55:07 -0500
Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Have you looked at Sylpheed?  I don't know how closely it will match
the behaviour that you're used to, but it talks nicely to every IMAP
server I've ever seen, and it turns the folders with new messages
red.

The problem is, I have about 250 folders.  Scrolling through them  
is a PITA, so I'd like to have the same, or similar, functionality  
that I had with Mulberry.


Mulberry has a favorites folder, called "New Messages", that only  
displays folders with new mail in them.


Kind of like the idea of a dynamic "smart folder" where the criterion  
is other folders with new mail?


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HI plotter (was Re: Help)

[Chris Hill]

On Sun, 12 Mar 2006, REINALDO JIMENEZ wrote:

[ A more descriptive subject line is more likely to get you an answer. 
Lots of people delete 'Help' without reading. ]


My friend has a Houston Instrument Plotter Model DMP-50 and can not 
get it running to print his school work (AutoCAD DWGs)


Need driver? What he should look for?


If your AutoCAD is anything like recent, you're running it under 
Windows. Autodesk haven't supported any other platform since Release 13, 
which was about 10 years ago.


I set up something like this years ago, using an HI DMP-61 with FreeBSD 
3.2 or 3.3. What I did was to install Samba on the FreeBSD machine, and 
set it up to 'share' the plotter (connected on an RS232 port) as a 
printer. Then the Windows clients were able to see the plotter as a 
networked printer, and use the native AutoCAD driver for that plotter. 
The FreeBSD machine was pretty much acting as a print server for that 
plotter.


Sorry to be so vague, but it was a long time ago. Hope this gets you 
pointed in the right direction.


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Re: Mail client like mulberry

[Paul Schmehl]

On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:55:07 -0500
Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Have you looked at Sylpheed?  I don't know how closely it will match
> the behaviour that you're used to, but it talks nicely to every IMAP
> server I've ever seen, and it turns the folders with new messages
> red.
> 
The problem is, I have about 250 folders.  Scrolling through them is a PITA, so 
I'd like to have the same, or similar, functionality that I had with Mulberry.

Mulberry has a favorites folder, called "New Messages", that only displays 
folders with new mail in them.  That way, instead of scrolling through hundreds 
of folders, I only see the ones with new mail.  (I can easily scroll through 
the hundreds if I need to, but I don't have to.)

I'm replying to you using Sylpheed, and it's a nice app, but I don't see any 
option to create a Favorites-like folder except by filtering and copying to a 
newly-created folder.

Does it have the functionality, and I just haven't noticed it yet?

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Re: How do I obtain 6.1-BETA4 ? (not on ftp site)

[Erik Trulsson]

On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 05:27:56PM -0500, Ensel Sharon wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> at this address:
> 
> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/6.1/
> 
> I see I can download an ISO for 6.1 beta 1 and beta 3, but I have been
> told to load 6.1 beta _4_.
> 
> Where can I get the ISO for this ?

I don't think 6.1-BETA4 has been released yet.
Wait a few days and check again.



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How do I obtain 6.1-BETA4 ? (not on ftp site)

[Ensel Sharon]

Hello,

at this address:

ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/6.1/

I see I can download an ISO for 6.1 beta 1 and beta 3, but I have been
told to load 6.1 beta _4_.

Where can I get the ISO for this ?

Thank.

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Re: Motherboard for new Socket 939 fileserver

[Demian]

Andrew Fremantle wrote:

Hi all,


Hello.


Here are my requirements
Socket 939
At least four SATA headers
(preferably) At least two PATA headers
PCIe Gigabit Ethernet



I'm currently running the following:

Athlon 64 4000+
ASUS A8N-SLI Delux (NVidia NForce 4 chipset)
400GB Western Digital 4000YR  SATA II drive

I'm running FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE on this box for several months now 
without a problem. I have no experience with PCIe Gig Ethernet or 
Pseudo-RAID. Have you thought about a SATA RAID board from Adaptec or 
Promise? There is a ton of information available for running Adaptec 
SATA RAID on FreeBSD 6.0 (At least, I saw a ton. However, I was looking 
for info on ATA RAID for my Adaptec 1200A I just setup).


The board has 4 regular SATA, 4 RAID SATA and 2 PATA ports.

I'm not sure if this info helps you but feel free to contact me offlist 
if you have any specific questions.


Demian
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Re: two slices, copy one slice to another?

[Steve P.]

- Original Message -
From: "Jerry McAllister" 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Re: two slices, copy one slice to another?
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:34:38 -0500 (EST)


>
> Is there a trick to copying one working system from a slice to another slice?
>
> What I envision is two slices:
> /dev/ad0s1 - one complete install
> /dev/ad0s2 - copy of first install, via dump restore. (Is 
> this where I screwed up?)

Jerry--No, dump/restore is the thing to use.
Jerry--Was the second slice /dev/ad0s2 made bootable - when you laid down
Jerry--the partitions?

I used sysinstall to lay down the partitions, then did a minimal install, so it 
was bootable I would assume.


> I tried this, but upon reboot, I could see both installs. I was given a
> choice of the two, but F2 only booted the first install.
> What is the trick?

Jerry--The problem is probably that you copied it directly including /etc/fstab.
Jerry--So, /etc/fstab still points to /dev/ad0s1a at the root (/) partition
Jerry--and /dev/ad0s1b as swap, etc, etc Those need to be manually edited
Jerry--after the dump/restore to be /dev/ad0s2a, /dev/ad0s2b, etc respectively.

Now that I think about it, yeah. fstab still points to the former slice. Funny 
how the obvious eludes you ad 2am. 
I will try that, and Thanks Very Much.
Steve. 




jerry

> Thanks.
> Steve.
>
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Re: Motherboard for new Socket 939 fileserver

[Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC]

On Mar 14, 2006, at 1:58 PM, Peter Giessel wrote:

On Tuesday, March 14, 2006, at 11:43AM, Andrew Fremantle  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Here are my requirements
Socket 939
At least four SATA headers
(preferably) At least two PATA headers
PCIe Gigabit Ethernet


You didn't mention what brand of processor, but if you are going  
AMD64,


Socket 939 is what the OP said, which is an AMD thing

Chad


there
is a pretty good list of tested motherboards here:
http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/amd64/motherboards.html

I used Socket 940 Tyan myself, and am a big fan of Tyan, but not as  
many tested
Socket 939 Tyan boards on the list.  You should be able to find  
something that

works for you on the list though.
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Re: Motherboard for new Socket 939 fileserver

[Peter Giessel]

On Tuesday, March 14, 2006, at 11:43AM, Andrew Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

>Here are my requirements
>Socket 939
>At least four SATA headers
>(preferably) At least two PATA headers
>PCIe Gigabit Ethernet

You didn't mention what brand of processor, but if you are going AMD64, there
is a pretty good list of tested motherboards here:
http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/amd64/motherboards.html

I used Socket 940 Tyan myself, and am a big fan of Tyan, but not as many tested
Socket 939 Tyan boards on the list.  You should be able to find something that
works for you on the list though.
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Motherboard for new Socket 939 fileserver

[Andrew Fremantle]

Hi all,

I've been tasked with setting up a new FreeBSD network file server. I've 
been spending the last day fighting an ASUS A8N-VM CSM motherboard, and 
I've given up on that hopeless battle. The ACPI is horribly broken, the 
ethernet and PATA/SATA aren't supported on FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE, FreeBSD 
6-STABLE recognises the disk controllers but then hits a bug that 
prevents it from using one of the disks, I've had enough. I was prepared 
to tough it out with the ATA/33 limit on the generic controller support, 
until a future release properly supports them, but this morning the 
machine started throwing "DANGER Will Robinson" messages regarding the 
SATA drives.


I have a preference for nVidia chipsets, but if there's something else 
that will work and has decent FreeBSD support I'll take it.


Here are my requirements
Socket 939
At least four SATA headers
(preferably) At least two PATA headers
PCIe Gigabit Ethernet

Reliable ATA system operation on the board is a MUST! This machine's 
primary purpose is going to be reading and writing those drives! Those 
damned UDMA timeouts and other ATA problems I've seen cropping up 
randomly over the last two years are NOT acceptable.


After troubleshooting the nVidia RAID on this motherboard, and reading 
online about these "fake RAID" implementations, I'm pretty much planning 
on sticking with FreeBSD's "Pseudo-RAID". Can anyone offer any feedback 
on the reliability of FreeBSD's "Pseudo-RAID" system?


Just in case anyone's interested, here are the rest of the components 
that will be used with the system.

Seasonic 430w S12 powersupply
Western Digital 80G PATA drive
Pioneer PATA DVD Multidrive
2 x Seagate 7200.9 300GB SATA drives (mirrored) in
a SNT-3141-SATA 4-drive SATA enclosure (Not sure who made this)

Any feedback would be much appreciated. I'm desperate to avoid jumping 
to Linux on this one, because I know that will turn into a huge pain in 
the ass later on.


- Andrew
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Re: where is mergemaster?

[Pete Slagle]

I have also had problems with my path
not being set correctly in single user mode.


This can be caused by not having /root/.profile linked to your / directory.

Mergemaster used to ask about correcting this, but it doesn't seem to do 
so lately.



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Re: Updating ports

[Lisa Casey]

Hi,


Nope, you're good to go


It worked. Now I have an updated ports collection and I'm feeling pleased 
with myself :-)


Thanks guys.

Lisa Casey

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Re: Updating ports

[Bill Moran]

On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:05:32 -0500
"Lisa Casey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi again,
> 
> One last question and I think I'll be good to go:
> 
> In my ports-supfile, I've changed the host to one that is local to me in the 
> USA. Do I need to make any changes to
> *default release=cvs tag=.

This line defines what _version_ of the ports you want.  "tag=." says
to get whatever the most updated version is.  This is usually what
you want (for ports).  For future reference, if you ever want a version
of the ports other than the most current, you'll change this line.  Also
note that "tag=." is usually _not_ what you want when cvsupping FreeBSD
source.

> *default delete use-rel-suffix

Delete files that have been removed from CVS from your version.

use-rel-suffix controls some bookkeeping that cvsup up does so it can
run efficiently.  You probably want to leave that alone.

> Or can I just leave these as the defaults? I understand everything else in 
> ports-supfile.

Chances are good you can stick with the defaults.

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Re: Updating ports

[Pat Maddox]

Nope, you're good to go


On 3/14/06, Lisa Casey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi again,
>
> One last question and I think I'll be good to go:
>
> In my ports-supfile, I've changed the host to one that is local to me in the
> USA. Do I need to make any changes to
> *default release=cvs tag=.
> *default delete use-rel-suffix
> Or can I just leave these as the defaults? I understand everything else in
> ports-supfile.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Lisa Casey
>
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Re: Updating ports

[Lisa Casey]

Hi again,

One last question and I think I'll be good to go:

In my ports-supfile, I've changed the host to one that is local to me in the 
USA. Do I need to make any changes to

*default release=cvs tag=.
*default delete use-rel-suffix
Or can I just leave these as the defaults? I understand everything else in 
ports-supfile.


Thanks again,

Lisa Casey

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Re: Updating ports

[Pat Maddox]

Hi Lisa,

The supfile just upgrades the sources.  You actually have to build and
install it for it to make any changes.  Using the standard supfile,
you can just do portupgrade -arR and it will only upgrade your ports,
it won't touch the base system at all.  Then when you want to upgrade
the base system, you have the sources available and can do that.  But
don't worry, there's nothing wrong with having the most up to date
base source, even if you haven't upgraded in a couple months.

I use portsnap for updating my ports tree.  I wish I could tell you
the advantages, but I've been using it for over a year now and don't
really remember to be perfectly honest :)  Anyway, I run portsnap
nightly, and then do a weekly update of my base system source using
cvsup.

I wrote a simple article that shows you how to install and configure
portsnap, if you're interested.
http://www.flpr.org/articles/2005/08/24/configuring-freebsd

Pat



On 3/14/06, Lisa Casey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> I might be a bit confused here. If so, I'm sure you'll tell me about it ;-)
>
> I'm running FreeBSD 5.3. I want to update my ports. So I went to the FreeBSD
> handbook and started reading up on how to do that. According to what I read,
> I need to install cvsup then create a supfile. OK, so far so good. I  just
> now installed cvsup-without-gui  (I'm not running any kind of gui - this is
> a server).
>
> I don't want to update my entire system from FreeBSD 5.3 to something else
> then do all the make world stuff (although it would be a good idea for me to
> learn how to do that someday - I just want to update my ports). I got
> started on this because I wanted to install webmin but I noticed that, in my
> ports collection the version of webmin is 1.150 whereas the current webmin
> port at Freshports is version 1.260_2.  I figured it would be a good idea
> just to go ahead and update my ports first before installing webmin so I
> could install the latest version from ports rather than downloading the
> tar.gz  and installing it that way.
>
> Next I need the supfile. I took a look at
> /usr/share/examples/cvsup/standard-supfile (I think that's what I want) but
> that looks like something that is going to upgrade the entire system (as I
> said - probably a good idea but I just don't want to do that now, I just
> want to update my ports).
>
> Can't I just update the ports without updating the entire system? If so, am
> I going about it the right way or am I just plain confused? If I am going
> about it the right way then I think there's something about the supfile that
> I obviously don't understand.
>
> I'ld appreciate it if someone on this list could straighten out my thinking.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lisa Casey
>
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Re: Updating ports

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Lisa Casey wrote:

Next I need the supfile. I took a look at 
/usr/share/examples/cvsup/standard-supfile (I think that's what I want) 

Look at and edit '/usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile'
there you need to change the line with
'*default host=CHANGE_THIS.FreeBSD.org'
to the host nearest to you.

but that looks like something that is going to upgrade the entire system 
(as I said - probably a good idea but I just don't want to do that now, 
I just want to update my ports).

That supfile will only update your ports tree in /usr/ports.

The file /usr/share/examples/cvsup/standard-supfile e.g.
would update your files in /usr/src, your system's source tree.

Can't I just update the ports without updating the entire system? 

Yes, see above.

I'ld appreciate it if someone on this list could straighten out my 
thinking.

You're on the right track. Maybe check out the handbook again at:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvsup.html#CVSUP-CONFIG-FILES

You can use CVSup to update the source trees of both your system 
(/usr/src) and your ports (/usr/ports).


So you have a cvsup file for each file tree, src->stable-supfile, 
ports->ports-supfile. That's basically it.



Thanks,

Lisa Casey

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1,000 Days Up Time Freebsd4.7

[Martin McCormick]

We recently had a FreeBSD4.7 system almost make it to 1,000
days uptime.  It may have actually done it but it also appears to have
rebooted itself just as it reached 1,000 days.

Is anybody aware of any kind of counter overflow or anything
along those lines that might have caused the reboot?

Obviously a system that has been up for that long without a
break isn't too sick, but I can't imagine what happened.  There are no
signs of anything being wrong.  After it rebooted itself, it just kept
on ticking like it has for the last 2-and-a-quarter years.

I looked in /var/log/messages and found no tracks.  The last
message was a routine message about the dhcp lease it had and then a
few minutes later, the next message was the copyright notice on the
kernel as the reboot started.

That FreeBSD is just wonderful, though.  I know of some other
popular OS's that can't even dream of that much uptime.

Thanks for any useful information.

Martin McCormick WB5AGZ  Stillwater, OK 
Systems Engineer
OSU Information Technology Department Network Operations Group
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Re: Updating ports

[Lisa Casey]

Can't I just update the ports without updating the entire system?


Yes.  Look at /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile

You _are_ on the right track, and you can do what you want.


Thanks Bill. Duh, I was looking right at that and didn't see the 
ports-supfile. I'll go take a look now.


Lisa Casey

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Re: Updating ports

[Bill Moran]

On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 14:46:09 -0500
"Lisa Casey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Next I need the supfile. I took a look at 
> /usr/share/examples/cvsup/standard-supfile (I think that's what I want) but 
> that looks like something that is going to upgrade the entire system (as I 
> said - probably a good idea but I just don't want to do that now, I just 
> want to update my ports).
> 
> Can't I just update the ports without updating the entire system?

Yes.  Look at /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile

You _are_ on the right track, and you can do what you want.

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Updating ports

[Lisa Casey]

Hi Folks,

I might be a bit confused here. If so, I'm sure you'll tell me about it ;-)

I'm running FreeBSD 5.3. I want to update my ports. So I went to the FreeBSD 
handbook and started reading up on how to do that. According to what I read, 
I need to install cvsup then create a supfile. OK, so far so good. I  just 
now installed cvsup-without-gui  (I'm not running any kind of gui - this is 
a server).


I don't want to update my entire system from FreeBSD 5.3 to something else 
then do all the make world stuff (although it would be a good idea for me to 
learn how to do that someday - I just want to update my ports). I got 
started on this because I wanted to install webmin but I noticed that, in my 
ports collection the version of webmin is 1.150 whereas the current webmin 
port at Freshports is version 1.260_2.  I figured it would be a good idea 
just to go ahead and update my ports first before installing webmin so I 
could install the latest version from ports rather than downloading the 
tar.gz  and installing it that way.


Next I need the supfile. I took a look at 
/usr/share/examples/cvsup/standard-supfile (I think that's what I want) but 
that looks like something that is going to upgrade the entire system (as I 
said - probably a good idea but I just don't want to do that now, I just 
want to update my ports).


Can't I just update the ports without updating the entire system? If so, am 
I going about it the right way or am I just plain confused? If I am going 
about it the right way then I think there's something about the supfile that 
I obviously don't understand.


I'ld appreciate it if someone on this list could straighten out my thinking.

Thanks,

Lisa Casey

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cbq not borrowing fully from parent queue

[Wes Santee]

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Greetings.

I'm running 6-STABLE using pf and altq/cbq to manage bandwidth on my
wireless adapter.

The setup from pf.conf is this:

altq on $ext_if bandwidth 54Mb cbq queue { internal, external }
queue internal bandwidth 53104Kb priority 7 cbq(borrow)
queue external bandwidth 896Kb priority 4 cbq { highq, defaultq, lowq }
   queue highqbandwidth 40% priority 3 cbq(borrow)
   queue defaultq bandwidth 40% priority 2 cbq(default borrow)
   queue lowq bandwidth 20% priority 1 qlimit 300 cbq(borrow)

The internal queue is for wireless traffic coming from and going to the
internal network.  The external queue (and its children) are for traffic
going upstream to my ISP.  The "external" queue is set to my max
upstream bandwidth to my ISP, so it can't borrow from the root queue.
All the child queue's under "external" can (and should) borrow against
the available upstream bandwidth amount if available.

The problem is that packets in lowq are filling up the queue, even
though there is plenty of bandwidth available to borrow from the parent
queue.

Here's a snapshot from pfctl -vvsqueue:

queue  internal bandwidth 53.10Mb priority 7 cbq( borrow )
  [ pkts:401  bytes: 216532  dropped pkts:0 bytes:   0 ]
  [ qlength:   0/ 50  borrows:  0  suspends:  0 ]
  [ measured: 0.0 packets/s, 0 b/s ]
queue  external bandwidth 896Kb priority 4 {highq, defaultq, lowq}
  [ pkts:  0  bytes:  0  dropped pkts:0 bytes:   0 ]
  [ qlength:   0/ 50  borrows:  0  suspends:  0 ]
  [ measured: 0.0 packets/s, 0 b/s ]
queue   highq bandwidth 358.40Kb priority 3 cbq( borrow )
  [ pkts:  0  bytes:  0  dropped pkts:0 bytes:   0 ]
  [ qlength:   0/ 50  borrows:  0  suspends:  0 ]
  [ measured: 0.0 packets/s, 0 b/s ]
queue   defaultq bandwidth 358.40Kb priority 2 cbq( borrow default )
  [ pkts:   7397  bytes:3230740  dropped pkts:0 bytes:   0 ]
  [ qlength:   0/ 50  borrows: 10  suspends:  9 ]
  [ measured: 1.0 packets/s, 4.16Kb/s ]
queue   lowq bandwidth 179.20Kb qlimit 300 cbq( borrow )
  [ pkts:  41643  bytes:   48966175  dropped pkts:0 bytes:   0 ]
  [ qlength: 117/300  borrows:  31513  suspends:   6282 ]
  [ measured:21.1 packets/s, 193.23Kb/s ]


Notice that queue "external", the parent of lowq, has plenty of
available bandwidth.  However, lowq has still got a backlog of 117
packets, and refuses to go over 193Kbit/sec.  It is borrowing, but not
enough to keep the queue in check.

Is there a reason the cbq implementation in pf will not aggressively
borrow against the parent queue if the bandwidth is available?  I had to
set the qlimit up to 300 because at 200 it was still dropping packets
even though there was *plenty* of available bandwidth to borrow from the
parent.

Cheers,
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bas 3.1 fails to build

[Derrick MacPherson]

On FreeBSD 5.4, not sure what this error means:

===>  Building for bash-3.1.10_1
rm -f bash
cc -L./builtins -L./lib/readline -L./lib/readline -L./lib/glob  -
L./lib/tilde  -L./lib/sh -L/usr/local/lib  -rdynamic  -O -pipe -o bash
shell.o eval.o y.tab.o general.o make_cmd.o print_cmd.o   dispose_cmd.o
execute_cmd.o variables.o copy_cmd.o error.o  expr.o flags.o jobs.o
subst.o hashcmd.o hashlib.o mailcheck.o  trap.o input.o unwind_prot.o
pathexp.o sig.o test.o version.o  alias.o array.o arrayfunc.o braces.o
bracecomp.o bashhist.o  bashline.o  list.o stringlib.o locale.o
findcmd.o redir.o  pcomplete.o pcomplib.o syntax.o xmalloc.o -lbuiltins
-lsh -lreadline -lhistory -ltermcap -lglob  -
ltilde  /usr/local/lib/libintl.so /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so
subst.o(.text+0x4f69): In function `remove_wpattern':
: undefined reference to `wcsmatch'
subst.o(.text+0x4fad): In function `remove_wpattern':
: undefined reference to `wcsmatch'
subst.o(.text+0x4fe6): In function `remove_wpattern':
: undefined reference to `wcsmatch'
subst.o(.text+0x5072): In function `remove_wpattern':
: undefined reference to `wcsmatch'
subst.o(.text+0x5107): In function `remove_pattern':
: undefined reference to `xdupmbstowcs'
subst.o(.text+0x5133): In function `remove_pattern':
: undefined reference to `xdupmbstowcs'
subst.o(.text+0x565a): In function `match_wpattern':
: undefined reference to `wcsmatch'
subst.o(.text+0x56fa): In function `match_wpattern':
: undefined reference to `wcsmatch'
subst.o(.text+0x576c): In function `match_wpattern':
: undefined reference to `wcsmatch'
subst.o(.text+0x57ad): In function `match_wpattern':
: undefined reference to `wcsmatch'
subst.o(.text+0x5878): In function `match_pattern':
: undefined reference to `xdupmbstowcs'
subst.o(.text+0x58a7): In function `match_pattern':
: undefined reference to `xdupmbstowcs'
*** Error code 1


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Re: Mail client like mulberry

[Donald J. O'Neill]

On Tuesday 14 March 2006 12:40, Benjamin Lutz wrote:
> On Tuesday 14 March 2006 18:15, Paul Schmehl wrote:
> > > What does this "New Messages" feature do?
> >
> > It's like Favorites, except it only displays folders that have new
> > messages in them.  I have so many folders that it's a real PITA to
> > have to scroll through 20 that have no new messages in them just to
> > get to 10 that do.
> >
> > It also needs to be SMIME/PGP aware and handle IMAP gracefully
> > (according to the RFCs, not like MS crap.)
>
> How about KMail then. It's SMIME/PGP implementation is very good (and
> it renders signed content very nicely too imo) and works great with
> IMAP. It can be comfortably used with the keyboard only (much more so
> than, say, Thunderbird).
>
> It doesn't filter folders, however it has a "Next Unread Folder"
> command, which makes it directly switch to the next folder with
> unread messages in it.
>
> Cheers
> Benjamin


Yes, Kmail does filter folders, if you're talking about filtering 
messages that come in from e-lists (such as questions@) and moving them 
to a designated folder. The filters are easy to set up. The folders can 
show how many messages are in the folder,how many are new and will 
decrement the new filter count as they are accessed. It can also remove 
duplicate messages from a folder.

It is one heck of an e-mail client and I haven't found anything to touch 
it.

Don
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(no subject)

[mohammed.saleem13]

i want o put my http mirror up and ruinning on a server it looks something 
simlar to the attachment withis email: and can you suggest to me via email any 
servers 
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Re: Mail client like mulberry

[Benjamin Lutz]

On Tuesday 14 March 2006 18:15, Paul Schmehl wrote:
> > What does this "New Messages" feature do?
>
> It's like Favorites, except it only displays folders that have new messages
> in them.  I have so many folders that it's a real PITA to have to scroll
> through 20 that have no new messages in them just to get to 10 that do.
>
> It also needs to be SMIME/PGP aware and handle IMAP gracefully (according
> to the RFCs, not like MS crap.)

How about KMail then. It's SMIME/PGP implementation is very good (and it 
renders signed content very nicely too imo) and works great with IMAP. It can 
be comfortably used with the keyboard only (much more so than, say, 
Thunderbird).

It doesn't filter folders, however it has a "Next Unread Folder" command, 
which makes it directly switch to the next folder with unread messages in it.

Cheers
Benjamin


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Re: Regarding the (apparent) removal of syslogd_program functionality in recent versions

[Bill Moran]

On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:54:01 -0600
Dan Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In the last episode (Mar 14), Bill Moran said:
> > The rc.conf manpage states that syslogd_program= can be used to
> > change the program run for system logging.  This is also mentioned in
> > /etc/defaults/rc.conf and in the pkg-message for the syslog-ng port.
> > 
> > It appears as if this capability has been removed from post 4.x
> > systems.  The rcng script for syslog does not honor syslogd_program -
> > nor does anything else on a 6.0 system, as far as I can tell.
> 
> The capability is still there; it's just overridden by the syslog
> startup script.  If you remove the command="/usr/sbin/${name}" line
> from /etc/rc.d/syslogd, then setting syslogd_program will work again. 
> There's already a default syslogd_program="/usr/sbin/syslogd" line in
> /etc/defaults/rc.conf, so hardcoding it in the startup script was
> unnecessary.

This is why I asked, as this seems to indicate that /etc/rc.d/syslogd
has a bug in it.  If that's the case, then said PR needs to be regarding
this script, and not the docs.

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Problem with shoutcast port

[Paulino Calderon]

Hey.
I was trying to set up a shoutcast server on my freebsd 5.3 machine, for my
surprise there was alredy a port to it, so my only job was to cd to the
shoutcast port directory and make install, after that I wrote the
configuration file, chmoded it to the proper permissions, and ran it with no
warnings or errors, so whats the problem? It randomly crashes! the weird
thing is that no log file is created  and the only hint  it gives me is at
/var/log/messages  :  kernel: pid 27670 (sc_serv), uid 210: exited on signal
11.
Any idea of what may cause this problem?

Ive alredy tried on the official shoutcast forums and there are a couple of
persons with the same problem but there are no replies to their posts, so
any help you can give me guys would be really appreciated. Thanks
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Re: Regarding the (apparent) removal of syslogd_program functionality in recent versions

[Bill Moran]

On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 18:08:36 +0100
Erik Norgaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Bill Moran wrote:
> > The rc.conf manpage states that syslogd_program= can be used to change
> > the program run for system logging.  This is also mentioned in
> > /etc/defaults/rc.conf and in the pkg-message for the syslog-ng port.
> 
> it seems there is some inconsistencies regarding what should be the 
> recommended approach. I see in default/rc.conf that some have the 
> executable specified as the value of ${name} that is maybe try to set
> 
>syslogd=

/etc/rc.d/syslogd does not support this at all.  It explicitly sets
the program to start to /usr/sbin/syslogd, and I can not see any way
to override this without editing /etc/rc.d/syslogd

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Re: Mail client like mulberry

[Bill Moran]

On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:15:57 -0600
Paul Schmehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> --On Wednesday, March 15, 2006 2:42 AM +1100 Norberto Meijome 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:06:20 -0600
> > Paul Schmehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Now that Cyrusoft has gone out of business, does anyone know of a
> >> mail client that has the New Messages feature of Mulberry?  I need to
> >> find a replacement, and Thunderbird and Evolution aren't it.
> >
> > What does this "New Messages" feature do?
> >
> It's like Favorites, except it only displays folders that have new messages 
> in them.  I have so many folders that it's a real PITA to have to scroll 
> through 20 that have no new messages in them just to get to 10 that do.
> 
> It also needs to be SMIME/PGP aware and handle IMAP gracefully (according 
> to the RFCs, not like MS crap.)

Have you looked at Sylpheed?  I don't know how closely it will match
the behaviour that you're used to, but it talks nicely to every IMAP
server I've ever seen, and it turns the folders with new messages
red.

-- 
Bill Moran
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Re: Regarding the (apparent) removal of syslogd_program functionality in recent versions

[Dan Nelson]

In the last episode (Mar 14), Bill Moran said:
> The rc.conf manpage states that syslogd_program= can be used to
> change the program run for system logging.  This is also mentioned in
> /etc/defaults/rc.conf and in the pkg-message for the syslog-ng port.
> 
> It appears as if this capability has been removed from post 4.x
> systems.  The rcng script for syslog does not honor syslogd_program -
> nor does anything else on a 6.0 system, as far as I can tell.

The capability is still there; it's just overridden by the syslog
startup script.  If you remove the command="/usr/sbin/${name}" line
from /etc/rc.d/syslogd, then setting syslogd_program will work again. 
There's already a default syslogd_program="/usr/sbin/syslogd" line in
/etc/defaults/rc.conf, so hardcoding it in the startup script was
unnecessary.

-- 
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FreeBSD and 3G

[winter kf]

hi,
   
  just like to find out if FreeBSD 5.4/ 6.0 is supporting 3G/ EDGE/ GPRS?
  i think it's not mentioned in the handbook. Anyone know any reference?
   
  thanks.


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RE: Ports upgrade policy

[Jud]

On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:35:46 -0600, "Mike Loiterman"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Erik Trulsson  wrote:
[snip]
> >>> Is it advisable to sync my source to RELEASE, but to CURRENT for
> >>> ports? Typically, I upgade my ports a few days after they get
> >>> updated so I'm always running the latest version, but would it be
> >>> better to sync both ports and source to RELEASE? 
[snip]
> > Ports *are* tagged for each release, but they are not branched.
> 
> Yes, I know, which is why I asked the question...which is better?

Considerations I can think of -

(1) Advantage of using -HEAD (-CURRENT): Updates to ports may include
security fixes.

(2) Disadvantage of using -HEAD (-CURRENT): It is possible, though
perhaps not likely, that an updated port would require something your
-RELEASE base system lacked.

Jud
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Re: Problems since the libtool upgrade

[Kris Kennaway]

On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 11:17:22AM -0600, Paul Schmehl wrote:
> --On Tuesday, March 14, 2006 11:50 AM -0500 Kris Kennaway 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 08:10:11AM -0600, Paul Schmehl wrote:
> >>Ever since the libtool upgrade (I'm not saying it's related), I have
> >>been  unable to run dual screens.  I can run the same window on two
> >>screens, but  if I try to use dual screens, the box locks up hard.  I'm
> >>not sure if this  is an xorg problem or a gnome problem.
> >
> >It's unlikely to be related (libtool is basically just a compile
> >tool), so please try to identify what else changed to avoid confusing
> >the issue.
> >
> I don't think it is libtool related, but both Gnome and xorg had updates at 
> the same time (I don't know if they were "caused" by the change in libtool 
> or not), and I'm certain it's either xorg or Gnome that has the problem.

OK, so please say "Problems since the gnome/xorg update?" so your
subject isn't so misleading :-)

Kris


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Re: Problems since the libtool upgrade

[Paul Schmehl]

--On Tuesday, March 14, 2006 11:50 AM -0500 Kris Kennaway 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 08:10:11AM -0600, Paul Schmehl wrote:

Ever since the libtool upgrade (I'm not saying it's related), I have
been  unable to run dual screens.  I can run the same window on two
screens, but  if I try to use dual screens, the box locks up hard.  I'm
not sure if this  is an xorg problem or a gnome problem.


It's unlikely to be related (libtool is basically just a compile
tool), so please try to identify what else changed to avoid confusing
the issue.

I don't think it is libtool related, but both Gnome and xorg had updates at 
the same time (I don't know if they were "caused" by the change in libtool 
or not), and I'm certain it's either xorg or Gnome that has the problem.


Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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University of Texas at Dallas
AVIEN Founding Member
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Re: Mail client like mulberry

[Paul Schmehl]

--On Wednesday, March 15, 2006 2:42 AM +1100 Norberto Meijome 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:06:20 -0600
Paul Schmehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Now that Cyrusoft has gone out of business, does anyone know of a
mail client that has the New Messages feature of Mulberry?  I need to
find a replacement, and Thunderbird and Evolution aren't it.


What does this "New Messages" feature do?

It's like Favorites, except it only displays folders that have new messages 
in them.  I have so many folders that it's a real PITA to have to scroll 
through 20 that have no new messages in them just to get to 10 that do.


It also needs to be SMIME/PGP aware and handle IMAP gracefully (according 
to the RFCs, not like MS crap.)


Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Adjunct Information Security Officer
University of Texas at Dallas
AVIEN Founding Member
http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/
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Re: Regarding the (apparent) removal of syslogd_program functionality in recent versions

[Erik Norgaard]

Bill Moran wrote:

The rc.conf manpage states that syslogd_program= can be used to change
the program run for system logging.  This is also mentioned in
/etc/defaults/rc.conf and in the pkg-message for the syslog-ng port.


it seems there is some inconsistencies regarding what should be the 
recommended approach. I see in default/rc.conf that some have the 
executable specified as the value of ${name} that is maybe try to set


  syslogd=

Cheers, Erik

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RE: FreeBSD 6.0 lockups again.

[bob]

This could be heat related. Open your box and use small fine paint
brush to blow the dust away from the motherboard and in the power
supply. Try leaving the cover off the box and see if problem happens
again.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Grant Peel
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 8:28 AM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: FreeBSD 6.0 lockups again.


Hi all,

As stated many times befor, I am getting completely un-logged (not
logged
anywhere, whith everything pretty well on verbose or debug) lockups
on a
server of mine. One thing I have been noticeing is lots of log
entries like
this, from ipfw and kernel.

Has anyone seen these befor? Are they normal? are they a sign of
pending
doom?

FreeBSD 6.0 RELEASE
Dell PE 1850. Using two onboard NICs (em).

P.S. The lockups I am getting looks suspiciouly like complete
firewall lock
outs as the sustem just stops can't even get to it via the local
terminal.
Again, nothing logged anywhere!

-Grant

Mar 13 12:59:22 s1 kernel: .34.137.16:25 in via em0
Mar 13 12:59:22 s1 kernel: 34.137.16:25 in via em0
Mar 13 13:00:01 s1 kernel:
Mar 13 13:04:53 s1 kernel: 0.14:47788 out via em0
Mar 13 13:07:18 s1 kernel: .45:25 206.190.37.222:43393 out via em0
Mar 13 13:31:10 s1 kernel:
Mar 13 13:36:04 s1 kernel: ept TCP 64.34.137.45:110 70.48.38.90:1108
out via
em0
Mar 13 13:37:34 s1 kernel: .81.25:62582 out via em0
Mar 13 13:37:34 s1 kernel: 1.25:62582 out via em0
...
Mar 13 16:35:27 s1 kernel: 0
Mar 13 16:35:27 s1 kernel: i
Mar 13 16:35:27 s1 kernel: 34.137.16:25 in via em0
...
Mar 13 18:29:27 s1 kernel:
Mar 13 18:31:10 s1 kernel: 50020 Accept TCP 64.34.137.46:80
69.29.154.169:50864 out via em0
Mar 13 19:02:09 s1 kernel: 50020 Accept TCP 64.34.137.47:110
70.48.38.90:2249 out via em0
Mar 13 19:51:34 s1 kernel: 4.137.16:25 in via em0
Mar 13 20:20:35 s1 kernel: 0020 Accept TCP 64.34.137.16:110
24.36.74.164:49384 out via em0
Mar 13 20:31:58 s1 kernel: n via em0
Mar 13 20:31:58 s1 kernel: ut via em0
Mar 13 21:22:47 s1 kernel: p


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Re: Problems since the libtool upgrade

[Kris Kennaway]

On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 08:10:11AM -0600, Paul Schmehl wrote:
> Ever since the libtool upgrade (I'm not saying it's related), I have been 
> unable to run dual screens.  I can run the same window on two screens, but 
> if I try to use dual screens, the box locks up hard.  I'm not sure if this 
> is an xorg problem or a gnome problem.

It's unlikely to be related (libtool is basically just a compile
tool), so please try to identify what else changed to avoid confusing
the issue.

Kris


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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 lockups again.

[Kris Kennaway]

On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 08:28:29AM -0500, Grant Peel wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> As stated many times befor, I am getting completely un-logged (not logged 
> anywhere, whith everything pretty well on verbose or debug) lockups on a 
> server of mine. One thing I have been noticeing is lots of log entries like 
> this, from ipfw and kernel.
> 
> Has anyone seen these befor? Are they normal? are they a sign of pending 
> doom?
> 
> FreeBSD 6.0 RELEASE
> Dell PE 1850. Using two onboard NICs (em).
> 
> P.S. The lockups I am getting looks suspiciouly like complete firewall lock 
> outs as the sustem just stops can't even get to it via the local terminal. 
> Again, nothing logged anywhere!

You need to configure the debugger and use it to obtain diagnostic
information about the state of the system when it is hung.  See the
chapter on kernel debugging in the developers handbook.

Kris


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Re: make installkernel doesn't work?

[Chris St Denis]

I don't have physical access to the server at the moment to try the  
loader prompt but...


I tried
mv /boot/kernel /root/
mv /boot/kernel.old /root/
make installkernel

the folder and its files reappear in /boot but a reboot still shows  
the custom config.


I also tried shutting down the server and powering it back up incase  
it wasn't actually rebooting --- same result.



the output of make installkernel shows it is installing generic to / 
boot/kernel
cd /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC;  MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj   
MACHINE_ARCH=amd64  MACHINE=amd64


install -p -m 555 -o root -g wheel kernel /boot/kernel

Full output of make (about 2.6MB)
http://www.fanart-central.net/files/make_kernel.txt


On 13-Mar-06, at 1:47 AM, Glenn Dawson wrote:


At 12:41 AM 3/13/2006, Cstdenis wrote:

Nope
%grep ident /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC
ident   GENERIC

and its more than that. After reinstalling the kernel I still have  
SMP

support.


What's in /boot/loader.conf ?

Also, verify that the kernel you built is actually in /boot/kernel/ 
kernel.


Assuming it's there, what happens if you stop the boot at the  
loader prompt and manually load the kernel you want?


-Glenn



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> Maybe you set your ident to something else:
>
> $ grep ident /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC
>
> or whatever your arch is.
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Re: What laptop do you recommend?

[Norberto Meijome]

On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:00:31 -0800
"Kevin Oberman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 01:07:32 -0500
> > From: Parv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > wrote Norberto Meijome thusly...
> > >
> > > On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:32:40 -0300
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I'm looking for a new, gruntier laptop. What laptop is known to
> > > > work WELL with freeBSD? e.g.:
> > > > 
> > > > ACPI with no problems (and as many features as possible)
> > > > PATA / SATA with no problems
> > 
> > I don't think Thinkpad has [SP]ATA things (yet).
> 
> From my T43:
> atapci0:  port
> 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x18c0-0x18cf at device 31.2 on
> pci0 Since the drives are still PATA, I assume it uses a SATA/PATA
> chip for the internal drives, but it may make SATA available to a
> docking station.

yeah, the T60s (available now @ my provider! ) also come with SATA
drives.

> > If you can, try to get a laptop either without a 802.11g (so that
> > you can decide which one to buy) or buy one supported by ath driver.
> > I have T42 w/ Intel 2200BG card, and it using w/ iwi driver
> > (net/iwi-firmware port).  Here, connected w/ Linksys WRT54G wireless
> > router/switch/AP, iwi interface|driver needs to be reset just about
> > every two hours (when i start getting "TKIP ICV mismatch on decrypt"
> > message.
> 
> iwi (and its kin-folk) have been betting heavy work in HEAD over the
> past week or two and, hopefully, things will improve. OTOH, I have two
> colleagues using this card with Windows and they complain that it
> locks up periodically and they have to disable and enable it to get
> it back, so this may not be just a FreeBSD thing. There is also
> fairly new firmware out (V3.0) which MAY fix some of these problems.

I have a 2200BG on this tosh A2 - some lockups, but couldn't pinpoint
it to the card (again, i've made the habit of ifconfig down before
suspend...) . No problems at all while running. 

> > > > Looking into either Intel duo Core or AMD64 chips.
> > 
> > Can't say about Thinkpad on that.
> 
> I think the only ThinkPads with Core Duo are T60s, although I'm sure
> other will follow. Don't know if Lenovo will ever go the AMD route,
> but I sure hope they do. My AMD desktop is one amazing system!

I know :) 

What about AMD64 (single or Dual core) cpus for laptops ("Turin" ? ) :
any good experiences there anyone?

> > > > >From what I've read, IBMs seem to have quite good support, so
> > > > >do DELLs
> > > > (though they seem chunkier than other laptops). I usually get
> > > > Toshiba, but I don't think they are so well supported.
> > 
> > Boy do those Toshiba's "TruBrite" screen looked amazing (in a chain
> > store). 

yeah, a colleague has a Tecra A5, bright as a CRT.

> 
> FWIW, I have been amazed at the brightness of my T43. It is MUCH
> brighter than my trusty T30.
> 
> > > What about DELL laptops? any model I should stick to?
> > 
> > People generally advise to get one from "business" line (used to be
> > "Latitude" for some time in past; don't know about the
> > present/future), not the "home" one ("Inspiron").
> > 
> > 
> > > Thinkpads are a bit pricey for me atm.
> > 
> > T4[0-3]-generation should be affordable by now, around USD1[0-2]00.
> > 
> > 
> > > (Greg Lehey i think was using dells... could well be wrong...)
> > 
> > Yes, some Dell Inspiron.
> 
> My wife has not been at all happy with her Latitude. Heavy and still
> not robust. Unpleasant keyboard and very touchy touchpad. (This is
> from her as I don't often use it.) I do love the 1600x1200 display,
> though!
> 
> For less expensive (and less powerful) ThinkPads, look at the R
> series. No Core Duos there, but they start at about $800 new. No
> touchpads (which I consider a plus), but a bit clunky compared to the
> T series. 

yeah i'm running the features vs numbers job atm...

Actually thinking of looking into the components of ASUS laptops, as
well as those from pioneercomputers.com.au - have heard of some great
experiences with those laptops with Linux.

BTW, thanks everyone for your help :) will keep asking questions as
needed, of course ;)

Beto
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Re: What laptop do you recommend?

[Kevin Oberman]

> Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 01:07:32 -0500
> From: Parv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> wrote Norberto Meijome thusly...
> >
> > On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:32:40 -0300
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > > I'm looking for a new, gruntier laptop. What laptop is known to work
> > > WELL with freeBSD? e.g.:
> > > 
> > > ACPI with no problems (and as many features as possible)
> > > PATA / SATA with no problems
> 
> I don't think Thinkpad has [SP]ATA things (yet).

>From my T43:
atapci0:  port 
0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x18c0-0x18cf at device 31.2 on pci0
Since the drives are still PATA, I assume it uses a SATA/PATA chip for
the internal drives, but it may make SATA available to a docking station.

> 
> > > all other basic stuff (graphics, NIC, Wireless g, sound,
> > > touchpad ,etc ) should work too, of course
> 
> Thinkpad T42 is great in that regard, except that the use of dri w/
> suspend/resume causes lockup.  You would need to pick either dri or
> suspend/resume.
> 
> If you can, try to get a laptop either without a 802.11g (so that
> you can decide which one to buy) or buy one supported by ath driver.
> I have T42 w/ Intel 2200BG card, and it using w/ iwi driver
> (net/iwi-firmware port).  Here, connected w/ Linksys WRT54G wireless
> router/switch/AP, iwi interface|driver needs to be reset just about
> every two hours (when i start getting "TKIP ICV mismatch on decrypt"
> message.

iwi (and its kin-folk) have been betting heavy work in HEAD over the
past week or two and, hopefully, things will improve. OTOH, I have two
colleagues using this card with Windows and they complain that it locks
up periodically and they have to disable and enable it to get it back,
so this may not be just a FreeBSD thing. There is also fairly new
firmware out (V3.0) which MAY fix some of these problems.

> > > Looking into either Intel duo Core or AMD64 chips.
> 
> Can't say about Thinkpad on that.

I think the only ThinkPads with Core Duo are T60s, although I'm sure
other will follow. Don't know if Lenovo will ever go the AMD route, but
I sure hope they do. My AMD desktop is one amazing system!

> > > >From what I've read, IBMs seem to have quite good support, so
> > > >do DELLs
> > > (though they seem chunkier than other laptops). I usually get
> > > Toshiba, but I don't think they are so well supported.
> 
> Boy do those Toshiba's "TruBrite" screen looked amazing (in a chain
> store).  On almost all the displayed laptops, however, the keyboards
> are buggered up, mainly on the right side.  Keys were shifted around
> or had really unusual area of key caps.  What is amazing about the
> messed up keyboard layout is that there was much wasted space on
> the sides (owning to the wider screen) & in front of the keyboard.

FWIW, I have been amazed at the brightness of my T43. It is MUCH
brighter than my trusty T30.

> > What about DELL laptops? any model I should stick to?
> 
> People generally advise to get one from "business" line (used to be
> "Latitude" for some time in past; don't know about the
> present/future), not the "home" one ("Inspiron").
> 
> 
> > Thinkpads are a bit pricey for me atm.
> 
> T4[0-3]-generation should be affordable by now, around USD1[0-2]00.
> 
> 
> > (Greg Lehey i think was using dells... could well be wrong...)
> 
> Yes, some Dell Inspiron.

My wife has not been at all happy with her Latitude. Heavy and still not
robust. Unpleasant keyboard and very touchy touchpad. (This is from her
as I don't often use it.) I do love the 1600x1200 display, though!

For less expensive (and less powerful) ThinkPads, look at the R
series. No Core Duos there, but they start at about $800 new. No
touchpads (which I consider a plus), but a bit clunky compared to the T
series. 
-- 
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Regarding the (apparent) removal of syslogd_program functionality in recent versions

[Bill Moran]

The rc.conf manpage states that syslogd_program= can be used to change
the program run for system logging.  This is also mentioned in
/etc/defaults/rc.conf and in the pkg-message for the syslog-ng port.

It appears as if this capability has been removed from post 4.x
systems.  The rcng script for syslog does not honor syslogd_program -
nor does anything else on a 6.0 system, as far as I can tell.

I was getting ready to write a doc PR, and I thought I'd ask about
it first.  Does anyone know if there's a reason to put this
functionality back in?  It seems to work just fine if I use
syslogd_enable="NO" and allow the script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d
to start syslog-ng

Thoughts?

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Re: Mail client like mulberry

[Norberto Meijome]

On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:06:20 -0600
Paul Schmehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Now that Cyrusoft has gone out of business, does anyone know of a
> mail client that has the New Messages feature of Mulberry?  I need to
> find a replacement, and Thunderbird and Evolution aren't it.

What does this "New Messages" feature do?
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Re: Supported? Intel Pro/Wireless 3945B/G

[Norberto Meijome]

On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 00:11:31 +1100
Norberto Meijome <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi all,
> In short, is the INTEL PRO/WIRELESS 3945BG NIC supported? It's the
> card that comes with the Lenovo Thinkpad T60.
> 
> Can't find any reference to this card relating to Freebsd.

http://www.intel.com/network/connectivity/products/wireless/prowireless_mobile.htm

seems to imply that it's the same chipset Pro 2200BG , which is
supported by the iwi driver. Is this correct?

thx,
Beto
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Re: Ports upgrade policy

[Bob Johnson]

On 3/14/06, Mike Loiterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Erik Trulsson  wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 04:18:13AM -0400, Duane Whitty wrote:
> >> Mike Loiterman wrote:
> >>> Is it advisable to sync my source to RELEASE, but to CURRENT for
> >>> ports? Typically, I upgade my ports a few days after they get
> >>> updated so I'm always running the latest version, but would it be
> >>> better to sync both ports and source to RELEASE?
> >>>
> >> It would be nice I guess if ports were tagged like src but they are
> >> not. Basically HEAD is all there is vis-a-vis tags.  You can specify
> >> a specific date however.
> >
> > Ports *are* tagged for each release, but they are not branched.
>
> Yes, I know, which is why I asked the question...which is better?

As I understand it, release tagsare static.  If you specify a release
tag, you get the ports as they were at the time of that release. 
Ports don't branch with releases, so if you want updated ports, you
use "tag=."


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Adpatec 2820SA

[georg]

Helo!

Did some one work with Adaptec 2820SA in FreeBSD?
In Adaptec web page I see that 2820SA is support in FreeBSD 5.3&5.4
Now I try install 5.4, but system answer no disk drives...
Can some answer me that is FreeBSD support Adaptec 2820SA?

Georg  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: Ports upgrade policy

[Mike Loiterman]

Erik Trulsson  wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 04:18:13AM -0400, Duane Whitty wrote:
>> Mike Loiterman wrote:
>>> This is my supfile:
>>> 
>>> *default  host=cvsup1.FreeBSD.org
>>> *default  base=/usr
>>> *default  prefix=/usr
>>> *default  release=cvs
>>> *default  tag=RELENG_6_0
>>> *default  delete use-rel-suffix
>>> 
>>> src-all
>>> 
>>> *default tag=.
>>> ports-all
>>> doc-all
>>> 
>>> I have been using it like this for years, obviously changing to the
>>> latest release tag.  I haven't had problem and I'm not having
>>> problems, but my question is this: 
>>> 
>>> Is it advisable to sync my source to RELEASE, but to CURRENT for
>>> ports? Typically, I upgade my ports a few days after they get
>>> updated so I'm always running the latest version, but would it be
>>> better to sync both ports and source to RELEASE? 
>>> 
>> Hi Mike,
>> 
>> It would be nice I guess if ports were tagged like src but they are
>> not. Basically HEAD is all there is vis-a-vis tags.  You can specify
>> a specific date however.
> 
> Ports *are* tagged for each release, but they are not branched.

Yes, I know, which is why I asked the question...which is better?

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Re: two slices, copy one slice to another?

[Jerry McAllister]

> 
> Is there a trick to copying one working system from a slice to another 
> slice?
> 
> What I envision is two slices:
> /dev/ad0s1 - one complete install
> /dev/ad0s2  - copy of first install, via dump restore. (Is this 
> where I screwed up?)

No, dump/restore is the thing to use.
Was the second slice /dev/ad0s2 made bootable - when you laid down
the partitions?

> I tried this, but upon reboot, I could see both installs. I was given a
> choice of the two, but F2 only booted the first install.
> What is the trick?

The problem is probably that you copied it directly including /etc/fstab.
So, /etc/fstab still points to /dev/ad0s1a at the root (/) partition
and /dev/ad0s1b as swap, etc, etcThose need to be manually edited
after the dump/restore to be /dev/ad0s2a, /dev/ad0s2b, etc respectively.

jerry

> Thanks.
> Steve.
> 
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Re: how does a system come up if you disable background fsck ?

[Chuck Swiger]

Tamouh H. wrote:
>> Tamouh H. wrote:
[ ... ]
>> PS You can find plenty of people like Kris and Micah right here on
>> freebsd-questions: people giving their own time to actually 
>> help people sort out their problems.  Haven't seen you doing that.
>>
> 
> Probably your whole 10 YRS of working on FreeBSD was on a P-II or AMD K6
> running a workstation in your basement, or who knows where.

Could you take this sort of needlessly personal response to email, please?

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RE: I386 Installation

[Tamouh H.]

> 
> I'm a newbie to unix and freebsd. I'm trying to follow your 
> documentation and keep failing the install. I have an HP 
> COmpaq desktop dc5100 MT and it will NOT detect my iso image 
> for the i386. i did not see it in your hardware list.htm. 
> does that mean it's not supported or do i need new drivers? 
> if i put it in an older ibm, the cd works. i also tried using 
> your floppy method and that failed as well. it said no 
> boot/loader. this box has xp loaded it already. 
> 
> any help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> ~Eileen 
> 
> __

Eileen, make sure your HP system is set to boot the CDROM as first bootable 
device in the BIOS (section usually called Boot Device Priority), this is most 
likely the cause of it.

Tamouh


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Problems since the libtool upgrade

[Paul Schmehl]

Ever since the libtool upgrade (I'm not saying it's related), I have been 
unable to run dual screens.  I can run the same window on two screens, but 
if I try to use dual screens, the box locks up hard.  I'm not sure if this 
is an xorg problem or a gnome problem.


What other window managers are capable of displaying dual screens?  I 
think, if I install a different w/m, I'll be able to determine if the 
problem is with xorg or with the gnome.


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RE: how does a system come up if you disable background fsck ?

[Tamouh H.]

> 
> Tamouh H. wrote:
> 
> >Micah, Kris:
> >
> >You guys are hilarious, where can I find ppl like you ? 
> >
> >Of course I'm using a backup power, but there are 101 
> reasons for FreeBSD to reboot by itself and when that 
> happens, 30 minutes downtime is 30 minutes of wasted time.
> >  
> >
> Since you're *so* smart, perhaps you could help us stupid 
> people by listing those 101 reasons?  In ten years of FreeBSD 
> I've never had a system reboot except through power failure 
> or operator action.  Hardware failure can do it too, of 
> course, and if your system is so critical, where's its backup system?
> 
> If your system is panicking, then why aren't you doing 
> something to isolate the problem and help fix it?  Assuming 
> that there is a problem with the *system*.
> 
> --Alex
> 
> PS You can find plenty of people like Kris and Micah right here on
> freebsd-questions: people giving their own time to actually 
> help people sort out their problems.  Haven't seen you doing that.
> 

Probably your whole 10 YRS of working on FreeBSD was on a P-II or AMD K6 
running a workstation in your basement, or who knows where.

I contribute to this group and many other places as much as I can with my 
experience and if you should check the archives you'll find my name pop-up 
there many times. I also do other types of contributions to the FreeBSD 
foundation and other organizations that utilize FreeBSD.

I didn't complain about the system reboots (did I?), there is definitely a 
problem with the system rebooting, but that is my job to resolve it (whether 
being hardware or FreeBSD itself) and YES FreeBSD does have its issues *BIG 
TIME* too. 

My post was regarding the whole concept of doing background fsck or foreground 
fsck if they both cause the machine not to be usable for the duration of the 
fsck.

I do appreciate a lot of people who take the time to address questions on these 
mailings and the many more who post to various forums and message boards.

However, I don't appreciate sarcasm and useless remarks especially if they were 
not intended to be humorous anyway.

Anyhow thanks for the help and great support !

Tamouh


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Mail client like mulberry

[Paul Schmehl]

Now that Cyrusoft has gone out of business, does anyone know of a mail 
client that has the New Messages feature of Mulberry?  I need to find a 
replacement, and Thunderbird and Evolution aren't it.


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Re: two slices, copy one slice to another?

[hackmiester / Hunter Fuller]

On Tuesday 14 March 2006 00:46, Steve P. wrote:
> Is there a trick to copying one working system from a slice to another
> slice?
Yeah, but it won't work.
>
> What I envision is two slices:
> /dev/ad0s1 - one complete install
> /dev/ad0s2  - copy of first install, via dump restore. (Is this
> where I screwed up?)
Yeah... see the issue is, FreeBSD refers to itself as "the first slice" in 
order to find itself... so you can backup to the second slice, but if you 
need to use it, you'll have to copy the second slice over the first one.
>
> I tried this, but upon reboot, I could see both installs. I was given a
> choice of the two, but F2 only booted the first install.
> What is the trick?
> Thanks.
> Steve.
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Re: Good subversion GUI?

[Norberto Meijome]

On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:43:43 +
Ashley Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  I've tried eSVN but it's a bit flaky.

in what way flaky? I haven't found any problems (again, I probably
don't push it hard enough)
thx,
Beto
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Re: no serial port: "configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs"

[Jack Stone]

From: Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Erik Trulsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: freebsd-questions 
Subject: Re: no serial port: "configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed 
irqs"

Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:21:28 -0500 (EST)


--- Erik Trulsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 01:15:57PM -0500, Peter wrote:
> > I cannot get FreeBSD 6.0 to recognize my serial port.  I am using
> the
> > ASUS K8V-X SE motherboard[1].  It only has serial port but dmesg
> > suggests there are two:
> >
> > sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
> > sio0: port may not be enabled
> > sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags
> 0x10 on
> > acpi0
> > sio0: type 16550A
> > sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
> > sio1: port may not be enabled
>
> It looks like FreeBSD found one serial port (si0) and looked for
> another
> (sio1) but didn't find it (which is not surprising if it is not
> there).
>
> >
> > In the end I have no port:
> >
> > $ ls -lh /dev/cua*
> > crw-rw  1 uucp  dialer0,  42 Mar 13 03:59 /dev/cuad0
> > crw-rw  1 uucp  dialer0,  43 Mar 13 03:59 /dev/cuad0.init
> > crw-rw  1 uucp  dialer0,  44 Mar 13 03:59 /dev/cuad0.lock
>
> And one port (the one detected as sio0) appears in /dev also
> according to
> the above.
>
> There is one serial port and FreeBSD finds it.
>
> I don't see the problem.

Ok thank you.  My conclusion was based on the combination of the
error-like messages ("port may not be enabled") and my experience with
FreeBSD (that it assigns /dev/cuaa{0,1} to its serial devices).



I'm having the same problem with new SATA Abit MBs. No matter what I do to 
tweak the BIOS, I get your identical message. There is no active serial 
port, even though I added a serial port card.


Really need it too as my APC UPSes need that serial port.

I've seen this problem posted before and wonder if anyone finally found a 
solution?


Regards,
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Re: What laptop do you recommend?

[Norberto Meijome]

On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:01:04 +1100
"David Dean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> mm, well I run a Dell 700m .. the widescreen 12" one with built-in
> wireless.
thx for your time :)

B
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Re: Good subversion GUI?

[Norberto Meijome]

On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:43:43 +
Ashley Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I use KDE on my desktop and I'm trying to find a good svn GUI but I
> can't see one in the ports.  I've tried eSVN but it's a bit flaky.  I
> saw a good one on KDE-apps.org called KdeSvn but it's not in ports.
> KDE integration would be nice but any X11 GUI will do.

try devel/kdesdk3

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Re: I386 Installation

[Donald J. O'Neill]

On Tuesday 14 March 2006 02:47, Eileen Wasson wrote:
> I'm a newbie to unix and freebsd. I'm trying to follow
> your documentation and keep failing the install. I
> have an HP COmpaq desktop dc5100 MT and it will NOT
> detect my iso image for the i386. i did not see it in
> your hardware list.htm. does that mean it's not
> supported or do i need new drivers? if i put it in an
> older ibm, the cd works. i also tried using your
> floppy method and that failed as well. it said no
> boot/loader. this box has xp loaded it already.
>
> any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> ~Eileen
>
> __

You need to burn that iso to a cd, then you can boot from it and it'll 
go into install. 

It looks like your computer came with an 80GB hard drive. Do you have 
only 1 hard drive, or do you have 2? If only 1, are you planning on 
over-writing what's presently installed?

Which iso image do you have?

Don
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FreeBSD 6.0 lockups again.

[Grant Peel]

Hi all,

As stated many times befor, I am getting completely un-logged (not logged 
anywhere, whith everything pretty well on verbose or debug) lockups on a 
server of mine. One thing I have been noticeing is lots of log entries like 
this, from ipfw and kernel.


Has anyone seen these befor? Are they normal? are they a sign of pending 
doom?


FreeBSD 6.0 RELEASE
Dell PE 1850. Using two onboard NICs (em).

P.S. The lockups I am getting looks suspiciouly like complete firewall lock 
outs as the sustem just stops can't even get to it via the local terminal. 
Again, nothing logged anywhere!


-Grant

Mar 13 12:59:22 s1 kernel: .34.137.16:25 in via em0
Mar 13 12:59:22 s1 kernel: 34.137.16:25 in via em0
Mar 13 13:00:01 s1 kernel:
Mar 13 13:04:53 s1 kernel: 0.14:47788 out via em0
Mar 13 13:07:18 s1 kernel: .45:25 206.190.37.222:43393 out via em0
Mar 13 13:31:10 s1 kernel:
Mar 13 13:36:04 s1 kernel: ept TCP 64.34.137.45:110 70.48.38.90:1108 out via 
em0

Mar 13 13:37:34 s1 kernel: .81.25:62582 out via em0
Mar 13 13:37:34 s1 kernel: 1.25:62582 out via em0
...
Mar 13 16:35:27 s1 kernel: 0
Mar 13 16:35:27 s1 kernel: i
Mar 13 16:35:27 s1 kernel: 34.137.16:25 in via em0
...
Mar 13 18:29:27 s1 kernel:
Mar 13 18:31:10 s1 kernel: 50020 Accept TCP 64.34.137.46:80 
69.29.154.169:50864 out via em0
Mar 13 19:02:09 s1 kernel: 50020 Accept TCP 64.34.137.47:110 
70.48.38.90:2249 out via em0

Mar 13 19:51:34 s1 kernel: 4.137.16:25 in via em0
Mar 13 20:20:35 s1 kernel: 0020 Accept TCP 64.34.137.16:110 
24.36.74.164:49384 out via em0

Mar 13 20:31:58 s1 kernel: n via em0
Mar 13 20:31:58 s1 kernel: ut via em0
Mar 13 21:22:47 s1 kernel: p 



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Re: Good subversion GUI?

[Yuan Jue]

On Tuesday 14 March 2006 19:43, Ashley Moran wrote:
> I use KDE on my desktop and I'm trying to find a good svn GUI but I can't
> see one in the ports.  I've tried eSVN but it's a bit flaky.  I saw a good
> one on KDE-apps.org called KdeSvn but it's not in ports.  KDE integration
> would be nice but any X11 GUI will do.

That's what I want too. KDESVN seems pretty good. Could anyone please
port it to freebsd ?

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Supported? Intel Pro/Wireless 3945B/G

[Norberto Meijome]

Hi all,
In short, is the INTEL PRO/WIRELESS 3945BG NIC supported? It's the card
that comes with the Lenovo Thinkpad T60.

Can't find any reference to this card relating to Freebsd.

thx,
Beto
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I386 Installation

[Eileen Wasson]

I'm a newbie to unix and freebsd. I'm trying to follow
your documentation and keep failing the install. I
have an HP COmpaq desktop dc5100 MT and it will NOT
detect my iso image for the i386. i did not see it in
your hardware list.htm. does that mean it's not
supported or do i need new drivers? if i put it in an
older ibm, the cd works. i also tried using your
floppy method and that failed as well. it said no
boot/loader. this box has xp loaded it already. 

any help would be greatly appreciated.

~Eileen 

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Help

[REINALDO JIMENEZ]

My friend has a Houston Instrument Plotter Model DMP-50 and can not get it 
running to print his school work (AutoCAD DWGs)

Need driver? What he should look for?

Yours Reinaldo
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Re: installs fine, but won't boot.

[NevTide]

--- Vulpes Velox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 06:25:32 -0800 (PST)
> NevTide <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I've been trying to get FreeBSD to run on my
> Toshiba
> > Satellite (m45 359). I tried a couple of times
> with
> > version 6.0 and the install went fine, but the
> > computer doesn't seem to recognize the drive as
> being
> > bootable. (So I experimented with a couple
> different
> > options: standard boot manager, bsd boot manager,
> > setting the partition (yes, it's a primary) to
> > bootable, even erasing the whole drive and
> allocating
> > it to FreeBSD. Regardless of what I've tried, the
> boot
> > sequence doesn't see a hardrive and skips it.
> > 
> > Also tried 5.4, but that freezes on booting the
> > install cd (probably just need to disable acpi)
> but I
> > really don't want 5.4 anyways.
> > 
> > Currently I'm writing this from ubuntu dapper (as
> a
> > test) - install went smooth and grub loaded with
> no
> > problem but I'd really prefer to get back to bsd.
> > 
> > Thanks for anyway help or feedback.
> 
> This is probally not the case, but when you got it
> would it boot
> windows properly and if not will it boot properly if
> you hit
> ctl+alt+del?
> 
> I've seen hard drives get skipped over before
> because of some what
> slow spin up times.
> 

Vulpes -

Thanks for the reply.
Yes, windows xp boots very well - I have actually
since removed ubuntu (good distro, but I don't really
like it and have temporarily gone back to winxp until
I can get freebsd working.)

So linux and winxp have both been installed and
removed a couple times with no problems. Freebsd is
the only one not wanting to play on this computer :-(

For some strange reason, the drive isn't noticed when
freebsd is on it (even when the boot manager is
installed, the boot manager doesn't even load??)


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Good subversion GUI?

[Ashley Moran]

I use KDE on my desktop and I'm trying to find a good svn GUI but I can't see 
one in the ports.  I've tried eSVN but it's a bit flaky.  I saw a good one on 
KDE-apps.org called KdeSvn but it's not in ports.  KDE integration would be 
nice but any X11 GUI will do.

Ashley
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