Re: Problem with xorg 7.2 upgrade - xorg-docs and xorg-apps

2007-06-17 Thread Hello Nasty


[LoN]Kamikaze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Nasty wrote:
 I upgraded to xorg 7.2 a while ago, and everything seems to be working well, 
 but my ports list shows the following out-of-date ports, and I can't seem to 
 do anything about them:
 
 xorg-clients-6.9.0_3   needs updating (port has 7.2)
 xorg-documents-6.9.0   needs updating (port has 1.3,1)
 
Use pkg_delete.

I try: pkg_delete xorg-clients.

I get: pkg_delete: no such package 'xorg-clients' installed.

Similar for xorg-documents.

Looking at the man page for pkg_delete, I tried -f (Force removal of the 
package), but the same thing occurred.

Am I doing something wrong? Or any other suggestions?

Thanks.


   
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Re: Problem with xorg 7.2 upgrade - xorg-docs and xorg-apps

2007-06-17 Thread Manolis Kiagias


Hello Nasty wrote:
 [LoN]Kamikaze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Nasty wrote:
   
 I upgraded to xorg 7.2 a while ago, and everything seems to be working well, 
 but my ports list shows the following out-of-date ports, and I can't seem to 
 do anything about them:

 xorg-clients-6.9.0_3   needs updating (port has 7.2)
 xorg-documents-6.9.0   needs updating (port has 1.3,1)
 
  
 Use pkg_delete.

 I try: pkg_delete xorg-clients.

 I get: pkg_delete: no such package 'xorg-clients' installed.

 Similar for xorg-documents.

 Looking at the man page for pkg_delete, I tried -f (Force removal of the 
 package), but the same thing occurred.

 Am I doing something wrong? Or any other suggestions?

 Thanks.
   
Well, try pkg_delete xorg-clients-6.9.0_3
If you are really bored, try pkg_delete xorg-clients*
Similar for xorg-documents

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Re: Problem with xorg 7.2 upgrade - xorg-docs and xorg-apps

2007-06-17 Thread [LoN]Kamikaze
Hello Nasty wrote:
 
 [LoN]Kamikaze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Nasty wrote:
 I upgraded to xorg 7.2 a while ago, and everything seems to be working well, 
 but my ports list shows the following out-of-date ports, and I can't seem to 
 do anything about them:

 xorg-clients-6.9.0_3   needs updating (port has 7.2)
 xorg-documents-6.9.0   needs updating (port has 1.3,1)
  
 Use pkg_delete.
 
 I try: pkg_delete xorg-clients.
 
 I get: pkg_delete: no such package 'xorg-clients' installed.
 
 Similar for xorg-documents.
 
 Looking at the man page for pkg_delete, I tried -f (Force removal of the 
 package), but the same thing occurred.
 
 Am I doing something wrong? Or any other suggestions?
 
 Thanks.

Yes, you're not using the wohle package name. Use the complete package name.

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fs cache

2007-06-17 Thread Vlad GURDIGA

Hello,

I have FreeBSD 7-CURRENT and Ubuntu on the same computer but Firefox
takes twice as long to start on a fresh boot. I've run some simple
tests:
- on FreeBSD it takes about 7 seconds on the first start and about 3
on subsequent startups;
- on Ubuntu it takes about 3 seconds on the first start and about 1 on
subsequent startups;

The only difference I can see is that on Ubuntu, after first start of
Firefox the memory use for cache is 22% vs. 0% on FreeBSD. My guess is
that this is the cause of slower startups on FreeBSD.

My question is: can I tune UFS2 in such a way that the most frequently
used desktop applications would remain for a longer time in disk
cache?

In both cases I use GNOME 2.18, GNOME System Monitor 2.18, and Firefox 2.
Both FreeBSD 7-CURRENT (src and ports tree) and Ubuntu 7.01
(2.6.20-16-generic kernel) are up to date. Both are SMP and 32bit.
Here is the system configuration:
- Intel DP965LT mother-board;
- dual-core Pentium D 820;
- 1GB of dual-channel-enabled DDR2 PC5300 at 667 MHz;
- Seagate, BARRACUDA 7200.7 Plus, 160GB, ST3160827AS, 8M cache, cu NCQ;

As far as I know, FreeBSD does not have support for NCQ, and I do not
know about Ubuntu.
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Wheel Group users get root access without password prompt in 6.2

2007-06-17 Thread Tek Bahadur Limbu
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Hi All,

I just installed FreeBSD-6.2 today. However, a problem has come up. Whenever I 
create a new user and add them to the wheel group, they can get root access 
without getting a root password prompt!

Is my passwd file corrupt or is it due to some misconfiguration in my freebsd 
box?

Can somebody shed some light on this?

Thanking you...

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With best regards and good wishes,

Yours sincerely,

Tek Bahadur Limbu

(TAG/TDG Group)
Jwl Systems Department

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Jawalakhel, Nepal

http://www.wlink.com.np
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hda driver

2007-06-17 Thread Robin Becker
I have an acer 1644WLMi laptop which has an HDA sound card. I tried 
using the binary modules from


http://tomoyo.mybsd.org.my/HDA/kmod/i386/

If I add

snd_hda_load=yes
sound_load=yes

to loader.conf then I have a crash when starting kdm

I am running

6.2Release with Xorg 7.2 and latest port kde 3.5.

I have seen that others have this HDA sound working; so what's the 
proper way to get it working? My reading of the related threads in 
freebsd-multimedia left me a bit confused.

--
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Re: Wheel Group users get root access without password prompt in 6.2

2007-06-17 Thread Momchil Ivanov
On Sunday 17 June 2007 11:24:46 Tek Bahadur Limbu wrote:
 Hi All,

 I just installed FreeBSD-6.2 today. However, a problem has come up.
 Whenever I create a new user and add them to the wheel group, they can get
 root access without getting a root password prompt!

 Is my passwd file corrupt or is it due to some misconfiguration in my
 freebsd box?

 Can somebody shed some light on this?

 Thanking you...

How do they get root access? su root or what? Did you set password for the 
root account or is it just empty?

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How to see the Ram memory in freebsd 6.2

2007-06-17 Thread Prakash Poudyal

Hello All,

Can any body tell me how to see the RAM memory in freebsd.

for your reference I had already used dmesg and top command and now I want
to know specifec command to see the Ram memory only.

Thank you

prakash
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Re: How to see the Ram memory in freebsd 6.2

2007-06-17 Thread Manolis Kiagias

Prakash Poudyal wrote:

Hello All,

Can any body tell me how to see the RAM memory in freebsd.

for your reference I had already used dmesg and top command and now I 
want

to know specifec command to see the Ram memory only.

Thank you

prakash
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You are looking for the equivalent of the Linux free command. This does 
not exits in FreeBSD per se, you can however install the freecolor 
program from the ports.

Just cd /usr/ports/sysutils/freecolor

and as root

make install clean


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RE: How to see the Ram memory in freebsd 6.2

2007-06-17 Thread James Stanley
Hello Prakash,

vmstat is the command you are looking for.
Try 'man vmstat' for more information.

Hope this helps,
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Re: pf(4) + fetch(1) + http://ftp.gnu.org

2007-06-17 Thread RW
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 04:49:21 +0200
Sten Daniel Soersdal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My guess is, your path-mtu is lower at some point between you and 
 ftp.gnu.org which (may or may not) result in an icmp packet
 indicating that the packet was dropped as fragmentation was needed
 but DF flag was set.

Vlad replied to me privately, and it seems that removing modulate fixed
it.

Modulate turns on tcp-proxying, which allows pf to rewrite initial
sequence numbers, and I guess there's a problem somewhere in that code.
It does seem to be site or route specific though.

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Re: hda driver

2007-06-17 Thread Manolis Kiagias
Robin Becker wrote:
 I have an acer 1644WLMi laptop which has an HDA sound card. I tried
 using the binary modules from

 http://tomoyo.mybsd.org.my/HDA/kmod/i386/

 If I add

 snd_hda_load=yes
 sound_load=yes

 to loader.conf then I have a crash when starting kdm

 I am running

 6.2Release with Xorg 7.2 and latest port kde 3.5.

 I have seen that others have this HDA sound working; so what's the
 proper way to get it working? My reading of the related threads in
 freebsd-multimedia left me a bit confused.
Download the driver from here:

http://people.freebsd.org/~ariff/lowlatency/

I have an Acer laptop myself and have tested this in the past, it worked
fine. I have not checked the recent releases though.
Your loader.conf is fine; sound_load is not needed in itself, it will be
loaded because of the snd_hda_load
I doubt your problem has anything to do with kde. Try the sound driver
from the command line, ie try to play an mp3 with mplayer or play



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Adding a XP disk to FreeBSD machine

2007-06-17 Thread Rico Secada
Hi

I have a box running FreeBSD 6.2 on ad0. 

I have another HD which used to be in the same box running XP. I set
this drive to slave and installed it into the box in order to dualboot. 

On the bootmenu the new drive ad1 shows up:

F1  FreeBSD
F5  Drive 1

Pressing F1 boots the disk on ad0 with FreeBSD, but pressing F5 also
boots ad0 with FreeBSD.

How can I make this work?

Best regards.

Rico
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Re: How to see the Ram memory in freebsd 6.2

2007-06-17 Thread RW
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 15:04:53 +0300
Manolis Kiagias [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Prakash Poudyal wrote:
  Hello All,
 
  Can any body tell me how to see the RAM memory in freebsd.
 
 You are looking for the equivalent of the Linux free command. This
 does not exits in FreeBSD per se, you can however install the
 freecolor program from the ports.

Just bear in mind that, unlike linux, the amount for free memory is
virtually meaningless in FreeBSD.

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/misc.html#TOP-FREEMEM
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Re: Wheel Group users get root access without password prompt in 6.2

2007-06-17 Thread Tek Bahadur Limbu

Momchil Ivanov wrote:

On Sunday 17 June 2007 11:24:46 Tek Bahadur Limbu wrote:

Hi All,

I just installed FreeBSD-6.2 today. However, a problem has come up.
Whenever I create a new user and add them to the wheel group, they can get
root access without getting a root password prompt!

Is my passwd file corrupt or is it due to some misconfiguration in my
freebsd box?

Can somebody shed some light on this?

Thanking you...


How do they get root access? su root or what? Did you set password for the 
root account or is it just empty?




Hi Momchil,

I did set the password for the root account. It's not empty. All the 
users of the wheel group simply got access using the command:  su -


By the way, the problem disappeared after a normal reboot. But still, it 
got me alarmed.


Thanks for your concern and reply.


Thanking you...


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Re: Adding a XP disk to FreeBSD machine

2007-06-17 Thread Garrett Cooper

Rico Secada wrote:

Hi

I have a box running FreeBSD 6.2 on ad0. 


I have another HD which used to be in the same box running XP. I set
this drive to slave and installed it into the box in order to dualboot. 


On the bootmenu the new drive ad1 shows up:

F1  FreeBSD
F5  Drive 1

Pressing F1 boots the disk on ad0 with FreeBSD, but pressing F5 also
boots ad0 with FreeBSD.

How can I make this work?

Best regards.

Rico
  
1. All windows disks must be primary if you're going to boot off of them 
-- sorry, it's a stupid requirement that M$ setup a long time ago.

2. Drive 1 is the primary drive IIRC.
3. You'll have to setup the boot manager on the windows disk.

-Garrett
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ekiga's audio input: dsp0.0?

2007-06-17 Thread Mikhail Teterin
Hello!

I'm struggling with configuring Ekiga's (former gnomemeeting) to work with my 
microphone on FreeBSD-6.2-stable/amd64.

Ekiga has a test settings buttons (under the configuration druid), but it 
never plays back anything, that I say into the microphone (I tried two of 
those already).

Ekiga is trying to use /dev/dsp0.0. Is that the right device? Sound(4) says, 
dsprM.N should be used for input -- do I need to force ekiga into using that?

I know, the sound itself works -- including from ekiga -- because I can test 
play the various sounds, that come with the application.

Does anyone have ekiga working right on FreeBSD-6 (the port's maintainer has 
already told me, he no longer uses the software)? Thanks!

-mi

P.S. I use the snd_ich audio module. My /dev/sndstat reads:

FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm)
Installed devices:
pcm0: AMD-8111 at io 0xc800, 0xcc00 irq 17 bufsz 16384 kld snd_ich (1p/1r/2v 
channels duplex default)
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X fails after upgrade to xorg-7.2; FreeBSD AMD64 w/ Radeon 9600 Pro

2007-06-17 Thread Byron Campbell
Help, X was working just fine until I did a portupgrade of 
xorg 6.9.0 to 7.2.

Looks like X is starting but my LCD monitor just goes black 
with the monitor's OSD reporting video input, out of range.

I've gone back through Xorg configuration 
(via xorgcfg -textmode) and verified correct settings for 
my graphics card and the monitor's Horz. / Vert. scan 
frequencies etc., everything being in order.

#Xorg -configure gives Driver ati, Boardname RV350 AP 
[Radeon 9600] and BusID PCI:1:0:0

I've also run #xorgcfg -textmode choosing Driver radeon and 
Card ** ATI Radeon (generic).. and still no luck.

Please help. Anyone have their Radeon 9600 card working in 
Xorg-7.2 with just a basic / non accelerated setup, or any 
setup? 

Thanks,
Byron


System info:

FreeBSD 6.2 stable (AMD64)  
Graphics card: ATI  Radeon 9600 Pro (using the VGA monitor 
connection jack)
Mainboard: MSI KT8 Neo2-F

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Re: X fails after upgrade to xorg-7.2; FreeBSD AMD64 w/ Radeon 9600 Pro

2007-06-17 Thread [LoN]Kamikaze
Byron Campbell wrote:
 Help, X was working just fine until I did a portupgrade of 
 xorg 6.9.0 to 7.2.
 
 Looks like X is starting but my LCD monitor just goes black 
 with the monitor's OSD reporting video input, out of range.
 
 I've gone back through Xorg configuration 
 (via xorgcfg -textmode) and verified correct settings for 
 my graphics card and the monitor's Horz. / Vert. scan 
 frequencies etc., everything being in order.
 
 #Xorg -configure gives Driver ati, Boardname RV350 AP 
 [Radeon 9600] and BusID PCI:1:0:0
 
 I've also run #xorgcfg -textmode choosing Driver radeon and 
 Card ** ATI Radeon (generic).. and still no luck.
 
 Please help. Anyone have their Radeon 9600 card working in 
 Xorg-7.2 with just a basic / non accelerated setup, or any 
 setup? 
 
 Thanks,
 Byron
 
 
 System info:
 
 FreeBSD 6.2 stable (AMD64)  
 Graphics card: ATI  Radeon 9600 Pro (using the VGA monitor 
 connection jack)
 Mainboard: MSI KT8 Neo2-F

I'd suggest searching for a ModeLine generator and entering the specs of your
screen.
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Re: Adding a XP disk to FreeBSD machine

2007-06-17 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 05:53:49PM +0200, Rico Secada wrote:

 Hi
 
 I have a box running FreeBSD 6.2 on ad0. 
 
 I have another HD which used to be in the same box running XP. I set
 this drive to slave and installed it into the box in order to dualboot. 
 
 On the bootmenu the new drive ad1 shows up:
 
 F1  FreeBSD
 F5  Drive 1
 
 Pressing F1 boots the disk on ad0 with FreeBSD, but pressing F5 also
 boots ad0 with FreeBSD.
 
 How can I make this work?

Sounds like you need to write a FreeBSD MBR on ad1 too.
eg Both ad0 and ad1 need the FreeBSD MBR for the boot search
sequence to work right.

Then the way it will work is you will see the same menu first
and when you hit F5 it will go to the MBR on ad1 and give you
the option to boot XP.   It might just say  if the file
system type is NTSF, but selecting it will boot just fine.
Actually, I don't think it should even show a second menu at
that point - rather just go in to XP, but it might show one and
so, just select the XP then.

jerry

 
 Best regards.
 
 Rico
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wpa_suplicant and dhcp

2007-06-17 Thread Erik Norgaard

Hi:

I have configured my iwi0 with dhcp and use wpa_supplicant for 
associating with my access point. I have just noted this in my logs: My 
laptop queries for new ip many times per minute:


Jun 17 18:59:18 strange dhcpd: DHCPREQUEST for 10.35.4.65 from 
00:16:6f:93:c9:75 via ath0
Jun 17 18:59:18 strange dhcpd: DHCPACK on 10.35.4.65 to 
00:16:6f:93:c9:75 via ath0
Jun 17 18:59:18 strange dhcpd: DHCPREQUEST for 10.35.4.65 from 
00:16:6f:93:c9:75 via ath0
Jun 17 18:59:18 strange dhcpd: DHCPACK on 10.35.4.65 to 
00:16:6f:93:c9:75 via ath0
Jun 17 18:59:22 strange dhcpd: DHCPREQUEST for 10.35.4.65 from 
00:16:6f:93:c9:75 via ath0
Jun 17 18:59:22 strange dhcpd: DHCPACK on 10.35.4.65 to 
00:16:6f:93:c9:75 via ath0
Jun 17 18:59:22 strange dhcpd: DHCPREQUEST for 10.35.4.65 from 
00:16:6f:93:c9:75 via ath0
Jun 17 18:59:22 strange dhcpd: DHCPACK on 10.35.4.65 to 
00:16:6f:93:c9:75 via ath0
Jun 17 18:59:33 strange dhcpd: DHCPREQUEST for 10.35.4.65 from 
00:16:6f:93:c9:75 via ath0
Jun 17 18:59:33 strange dhcpd: DHCPACK on 10.35.4.65 to 
00:16:6f:93:c9:75 via ath0
Jun 17 18:59:33 strange dhcpd: DHCPREQUEST for 10.35.4.65 from 
00:16:6f:93:c9:75 via ath0
Jun 17 18:59:33 strange dhcpd: DHCPACK on 10.35.4.65 to 
00:16:6f:93:c9:75 via ath0


I suppose that the wpa_supplicant does stuff, changing channels every so 
often and then renegociates ip, is there any way to make this stop? To 
tell wpa_supplicant to stick to one channel for this network?


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Re: Adding a XP disk to FreeBSD machine

2007-06-17 Thread Nikola Lecic
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 09:23:00 -0700
Garrett Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Rico Secada wrote:
  [...]
  I have another HD which used to be in the same box running XP. I set
  this drive to slave and installed it into the box in order to
  dualboot. 
  [...]

 1. All windows disks must be primary if you're going to boot off of
 them -- sorry, it's a stupid requirement that M$ setup a long time

What do you mean? I think he asked about slave (primary I suppose). I
ask this because ...

 3. You'll have to setup the boot manager on the windows disk.

... windows can normally boot from slave position without bootloader,
(in some cases with help of 'boot.ini' and ntldr/ntdetect.com, but
AFAIK only if booting is impossible even when ad1 (D) is selected in
BIOS as the first boot choice).

Ok, it's maybe simpler to add FreeBSD's boot sector, but that's not
necassary.

So, Rico should first check if windows can boot directly from D. If
not, that's another problem.

Nikola Lečić
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Re: Adding a XP disk to FreeBSD machine

2007-06-17 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 10:01:16PM +0200, Nikola Lecic wrote:

 On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 09:23:00 -0700
 Garrett Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Rico Secada wrote:
   [...]
   I have another HD which used to be in the same box running XP. I set
   this drive to slave and installed it into the box in order to
   dualboot. 
   [...]
 
  1. All windows disks must be primary if you're going to boot off of
  them -- sorry, it's a stupid requirement that M$ setup a long time
 
 What do you mean? I think he asked about slave (primary I suppose). I
 ask this because ...
 
  3. You'll have to setup the boot manager on the windows disk.
 
 ... windows can normally boot from slave position without bootloader,
 (in some cases with help of 'boot.ini' and ntldr/ntdetect.com, but
 AFAIK only if booting is impossible even when ad1 (D) is selected in
 BIOS as the first boot choice).

HE is trying to dual boot the machine.   He needs something on that
second disk that the MBR on the first disk can transfer control to.
That something is the MBR on the second disk.  That's the way it
works.

jerry

 
 Ok, it's maybe simpler to add FreeBSD's boot sector, but that's not
 necassary.
 
 So, Rico should first check if windows can boot directly from D. If
 not, that's another problem.
 
 Nikola Le??i??
 
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Re: rdesktop: segmentation fault under xorg 7.2

2007-06-17 Thread Anders Troback
On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 18:43:31 +0200
Laszlo Nagy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Anders Troback wrote:
  On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 20:06:52 +0200
  Laszlo Nagy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

  Jan Henrik Sylvester wrote:
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On Tue, 5 Jun 2007, Jan Henrik Sylvester wrote:
 
  
  For me, rdesktop works -- I have all my ports upgraded...

  ldd `which rdesktop` says?
  
  /usr/local/bin/rdesktop:
  libcrypto.so.4 = /lib/libcrypto.so.4 (0x280a9000)
  libX11.so.6 = /usr/local/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x2819c000)
  libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x28282000)
  libXau.so.6 = /usr/local/lib/libXau.so.6 (0x28367000)
  libXdmcp.so.6 = /usr/local/lib/libXdmcp.so.6 (0x2836a000)
  librpcsvc.so.3 = /usr/lib/librpcsvc.so.3 (0x2836f000)
 
  Jan Henrik

  For me, this is a bit different:
 
  %ldd `which rdesktop`
  /usr/local/bin/rdesktop:
  libcrypto.so.4 = /lib/libcrypto.so.4 (0x280a)
  libX11.so.6 = /usr/local/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x28193000)
  libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x28279000)
  libXau.so.6 = /usr/local/lib/libXau.so.6 (0x2835e000)
  libXdmcp.so.6 = /usr/local/lib/libXdmcp.so.6 (0x28361000)
  librpcsvc.so.3 = /usr/lib/librpcsvc.so.3 (0x28366000)
 
  Although the file names are the same. Is this a problem?
 
 Laszlo
  
 
  Hi,
 
  I have the same problem here after the xorg upgrade!

 Nobody answered to this for a while, so can we consider this as a
 bug? Where should I send a bug report?
 
Laszlo
 

Hi,

try set your color depth to 24!

For more reading search for the thread net/rdesktop segfault in
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Re: How to see the Ram memory in freebsd 6.2

2007-06-17 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 03:04:53PM +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote:
 Prakash Poudyal wrote:
 Hello All,
 
 Can any body tell me how to see the RAM memory in freebsd.
 
 for your reference I had already used dmesg and top command and now I 
 want
 to know specifec command to see the Ram memory only.
 
 Thank you
 
 You are looking for the equivalent of the Linux free command. This does 
 not exits in FreeBSD per se, you can however install the freecolor 
 program from the ports.
 Just cd /usr/ports/sysutils/freecolor

What if you just want to see how much is installed, what speed it is, et
cetera?  It isn't clear to me that Prakash was necessarily looking for
RAM usage.

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Re: Adding a XP disk to FreeBSD machine

2007-06-17 Thread Nikola Lecic
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 16:11:28 -0400
Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 10:01:16PM +0200, Nikola Lecic wrote:
 
  On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 09:23:00 -0700
  Garrett Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Rico Secada wrote:
[...]
I have another HD which used to be in the same box running XP.
I set this drive to slave and installed it into the box in
order to dualboot. 
[...]
  
   1. All windows disks must be primary if you're going to boot off
   of them -- sorry, it's a stupid requirement that M$ setup a long
   time
  
  What do you mean? I think he asked about slave (primary I suppose).
  I ask this because ...
  
   3. You'll have to setup the boot manager on the windows disk.
  
  ... windows can normally boot from slave position without
  bootloader, (in some cases with help of 'boot.ini' and
  ntldr/ntdetect.com, but AFAIK only if booting is impossible even
  when ad1 (D) is selected in BIOS as the first boot choice).
 
 HE is trying to dual boot the machine.   He needs something on that
 second disk that the MBR on the first disk can transfer control to.
 That something is the MBR on the second disk.  That's the way it
 works.

Yes :)

I said that it's _possible_ to keep the second disk stay untouched (as
it remained after xp installation). I replied because (1)+(3) of
Garrett's e-mail implied (maybe, that's why I asked him a question)
that xp cannot start from the second disk without _separate_ bootloader
installed _there_ from the outside, which is not true.

My statement doesn't say anything about contents of the first disk and
doesn't negate any of the options you proposed.

I did add two things:

  (a) a proposition to check ad1 separately -- doesn't hurt;

  (b) a possible help if xp cannot orientate itself.

Nikola Lečić
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Re: Adding a XP disk to FreeBSD machine

2007-06-17 Thread Garrett Cooper

Nikola Lecic wrote:

On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 16:11:28 -0400
Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 10:01:16PM +0200, Nikola Lecic wrote:



On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 09:23:00 -0700
Garrett Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

Rico Secada wrote:


[...]
I have another HD which used to be in the same box running XP.
I set this drive to slave and installed it into the box in
order to dualboot. 
[...]
  
  

1. All windows disks must be primary if you're going to boot off
of them -- sorry, it's a stupid requirement that M$ setup a long
time


What do you mean? I think he asked about slave (primary I suppose).
I ask this because ...
  


Now that I think about it I don't think that there's anything wrong as 
long as the boot order doesn't change. This is simple to modify with 
SATA/SCSI, but PATA is statically set based on the jumper pins.


Once you change the boot order, things change in the OS in terms of how 
the registry mapped entries, programs found their way around, etc, and 
it breaks everything.



3. You'll have to setup the boot manager on the windows disk.


... windows can normally boot from slave position without
bootloader, (in some cases with help of 'boot.ini' and
ntldr/ntdetect.com, but AFAIK only if booting is impossible even
when ad1 (D) is selected in BIOS as the first boot choice).
  
Yes. Drive lettering gets tricky though, based on what partitions were 
active when stuff was installed, etc, because Nikola's first NTFS/FAT 
formatted partition could have been C:, not D:, etc. *sighs and shakes 
head at bad partitioner in 2k/xp/2k3 installer*.

HE is trying to dual boot the machine.   He needs something on that
second disk that the MBR on the first disk can transfer control to.
That something is the MBR on the second disk.  That's the way it
works.



Yes :)

I said that it's _possible_ to keep the second disk stay untouched (as
it remained after xp installation). I replied because (1)+(3) of
Garrett's e-mail implied (maybe, that's why I asked him a question)
that xp cannot start from the second disk without _separate_ bootloader
installed _there_ from the outside, which is not true.

My statement doesn't say anything about contents of the first disk and
doesn't negate any of the options you proposed.

I did add two things:

  (a) a proposition to check ad1 separately -- doesn't hurt;

  (b) a possible help if xp cannot orientate itself.

Nikola Lečić
  
   The reasoning used in this document is the basis for my previous 
statement:


   http://support.microsoft.com/kb/112019

   So as long as the boot ordering or disk ordering of the primary 
(Windows) disk doesn't change, things should be groovy.


-Garrett
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Re: Adding a XP disk to FreeBSD machine

2007-06-17 Thread Nikola Lecic
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 14:22:05 -0700
Garrett Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Garrett Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  1. All windows disks must be primary if you're going to boot off
  of them -- sorry, it's a stupid requirement that M$ setup a long
  time
  
  Nikola Lecic wrote:
  What do you mean? I think he asked about slave (primary I
  suppose). I ask this because ...
 
 Garrett Cooper wrote:
 Now that I think about it I don't think that there's anything wrong
 as long as the boot order doesn't change. This is simple to modify
 with SATA/SCSI, but PATA is statically set based on the jumper pins.
 
 Once you change the boot order, things change in the OS in terms of
 how the registry mapped entries, programs found their way around,
 etc, and it breaks everything.

Ok, clear, that's why I asked.

 Nikola Lecic wrote: 
  ... windows can normally boot from slave position without
  bootloader, (in some cases with help of 'boot.ini' and
  ntldr/ntdetect.com, but AFAIK only if booting is impossible even
  when ad1 (D) is selected in BIOS as the first boot choice).
 
 Garrett Cooper wrote:   
 Yes. Drive lettering gets tricky though, based on what partitions
 were active when stuff was installed, etc, because Nikola's first
 ^^^
 Rico's

(you're answering my question, disk is Rico's :))

 NTFS/FAT formatted partition could have been C:, not D:, etc. *sighs
 and shakes head at bad partitioner in 2k/xp/2k3 installer*.

  Nikola Lecic wrote:
  I said that it's _possible_ to keep the second disk stay untouched
  (as it remained after xp installation). I replied because (1)+(3) of
  Garrett's e-mail implied (maybe, that's why I asked him a question)
  that xp cannot start from the second disk without _separate_
  bootloader installed _there_ from the outside, which is not true.
 
  My statement doesn't say anything about contents of the first disk
  and doesn't negate any of the options you proposed.
 
  I did add two things:
 
(a) a proposition to check ad1 separately -- doesn't hurt;
 
(b) a possible help if xp cannot orientate itself.
 
  Nikola Lečić


 Garrett Cooper wrote:
 The reasoning used in this document is the basis for my previous 
 statement:
 
 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/112019
 
 So as long as the boot ordering or disk ordering of the primary 
 (Windows) disk doesn't change, things should be groovy.

I assumed that Rico just added primary slave as such, without changing.
Once upon a time I experienced that xp even then refused to boot (in
similar situation) without ntdetect.com.

Nikola Lečić
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Re: How to see the Ram memory in freebsd 6.2

2007-06-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 17/06/07, Prakash Poudyal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello All,

Can any body tell me how to see the RAM memory in freebsd.

for your reference I had already used dmesg and top command and now I want
to know specifec command to see the Ram memory only.



sysctl hw.physmem perhaps?

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Re: How to see the Ram memory in freebsd 6.2

2007-06-17 Thread Manolis Kiagias
Chad Perrin wrote:
 On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 03:04:53PM +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote:
   
 Prakash Poudyal wrote:
 
 Hello All,

 Can any body tell me how to see the RAM memory in freebsd.

 for your reference I had already used dmesg and top command and now I 
 want
 to know specifec command to see the Ram memory only.

 Thank you

   
 You are looking for the equivalent of the Linux free command. This does 
 not exits in FreeBSD per se, you can however install the freecolor 
 program from the ports.
 Just cd /usr/ports/sysutils/freecolor
 

 What if you just want to see how much is installed, what speed it is, et
 cetera?  It isn't clear to me that Prakash was necessarily looking for
 RAM usage.

   
True, I made a few assumptions here, based on what I thought he meant.
For the type of questions you are asking I usually look at the bios or
attack the machine with a screwdriver :)
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azureus problem

2007-06-17 Thread Tsu-Fan Cheng

hi,
  just upgrade azureus to 3.0.1.4 and found out an interesting fact: if I
compiled it with swt-devel, it succeeds; failed when compiled with swt. But
this swt-devel-azureus failed to run when I want to add a new torrent file
from the menu bar. I said this from experience, last time my azureus also
crash when adding new torrent, downgrade my swt is the thing to make it
work. So... who can show me how to conquer this?? thank you!!

TFC
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Can No Longer Get To Virtual Consoles After -STABLE Update

2007-06-17 Thread Tim Daneliuk

I have been happily running 6.2-STABLE w/xorg 7.2 for some time now.
Last Friday I promoted the sources to the latest version of 6.2-STABLE,
did mergemaster -i, and built world and a new SMP kernel.  Everything
works as before after I rebooted *except* I can no longer use Alt-Ctrl #
to get to the text consoles if X is running.  If I disable X, it works
fine, but somehow X now seems to ignore these keys.  I did not upgrade
anything other than the FreeBSD sources theselves, BTW.

Any ideas?

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Re: X fails after upgrade to xorg-7.2; FreeBSD AMD64 w/ Radeon 9600 Pro

2007-06-17 Thread Mark Kirkwood

Byron Campbell wrote:
Help, X was working just fine until I did a portupgrade of 
xorg 6.9.0 to 7.2.


Looks like X is starting but my LCD monitor just goes black 
with the monitor's OSD reporting video input, out of range.


I've gone back through Xorg configuration 
(via xorgcfg -textmode) and verified correct settings for 
my graphics card and the monitor's Horz. / Vert. scan 
frequencies etc., everything being in order.


#Xorg -configure gives Driver ati, Boardname RV350 AP 
[Radeon 9600] and BusID PCI:1:0:0


I've also run #xorgcfg -textmode choosing Driver radeon and 
Card ** ATI Radeon (generic).. and still no luck.


Please help. Anyone have their Radeon 9600 card working in 
Xorg-7.2 with just a basic / non accelerated setup, or any 
setup? 


Thanks,
Byron


System info:

FreeBSD 6.2 stable (AMD64)  
Graphics card: ATI  Radeon 9600 Pro (using the VGA monitor 
connection jack)

Mainboard: MSI KT8 Neo2-F


I've seen this with VGA connections - e.g I've a 9550 (RV350 AS) and for 
DVI connection it works fine with the file generated by 'Xorg 
-configure' with accel and drm, but with VGA fails with 'out of range'. 
I needed to tell it which display resolution to use by adding a 'Modes' 
clause to the Display subsection of xorg.conf e.g:


Section Screen
Identifier Screen0
Device Card0
MonitorMonitor0
SubSection Display
Viewport   0 0
Depth 24
Modes   1680x1050  # whatever mode your monitor uses here
EndSubSection
EndSection


Cheers

Mark
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FreeBSD and Robotics

2007-06-17 Thread kzabbo
I've read some really good things about FreeBSD, especially its virus 
resistance and reliability.

Will FreeBSD work on a robot that has to be trusted in critical situations?

Kevin

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Re: azureus problem

2007-06-17 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 06:48:12PM -0400, Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote:
 hi,
   just upgrade azureus to 3.0.1.4 and found out an interesting fact: if I
 compiled it with swt-devel, it succeeds; failed when compiled with swt. But
 this swt-devel-azureus failed to run when I want to add a new torrent file
 from the menu bar. I said this from experience, last time my azureus also
 crash when adding new torrent, downgrade my swt is the thing to make it
 work. So... who can show me how to conquer this?? thank you!!

I could only get azureus installed working with swt-devel, never with
anything less. Try removing ~/.Azureus and restarting azureus again,
it could be that some of the older options are intefering with the
latest version.

Cheers.
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Re: azureus problem

2007-06-17 Thread Tsu-Fan Cheng

thank you! that was a good idea!!

But it still failed to run.. :-(


TFC

On 6/17/07, Jonathan Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 06:48:12PM -0400, Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote:
 hi,
   just upgrade azureus to 3.0.1.4 and found out an interesting fact: if
I
 compiled it with swt-devel, it succeeds; failed when compiled with swt.
But
 this swt-devel-azureus failed to run when I want to add a new torrent
file
 from the menu bar. I said this from experience, last time my azureus
also
 crash when adding new torrent, downgrade my swt is the thing to make it
 work. So... who can show me how to conquer this?? thank you!!

I could only get azureus installed working with swt-devel, never with
anything less. Try removing ~/.Azureus and restarting azureus again,
it could be that some of the older options are intefering with the
latest version.

Cheers.
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Re: azureus problem

2007-06-17 Thread Garrett Cooper

Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote:

thank you! that was a good idea!!

But it still failed to run.. :-(


TFC

On 6/17/07, Jonathan Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 06:48:12PM -0400, Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote:
 hi,
   just upgrade azureus to 3.0.1.4 and found out an interesting 
fact: if

I
 compiled it with swt-devel, it succeeds; failed when compiled with 
swt.

But
 this swt-devel-azureus failed to run when I want to add a new torrent
file
 from the menu bar. I said this from experience, last time my azureus
also
 crash when adding new torrent, downgrade my swt is the thing to 
make it

 work. So... who can show me how to conquer this?? thank you!!

I could only get azureus installed working with swt-devel, never with
anything less. Try removing ~/.Azureus and restarting azureus again,
it could be that some of the older options are intefering with the
latest version.

Cheers.
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When you start it in the console it says...?
-Garrett
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Arduino

2007-06-17 Thread David Kalliecharan

Hi,
I was wondering if annoyone has gotten the software for programming ATMega
processors to run on FreeBSD. I am an Electronics engineerign Student and am
curious to do start programming these chips. I know the Site:
http://www.arduino.cc/playground/Learning/FreeBSD exists but it doesn't seem
to be working? I was wondering if it does work with the command line at
least as I am looking to purchase one of these units to do some programming.
I don't want to have to install linux again, as I already have FreeBSD set
up on my system. I would not mind trying to help to get it to work I will
have to wait until wednesday to start as I have exams this week. Any info
would be greatly appreciated!

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Re: azureus problem

2007-06-17 Thread Tsu-Fan Cheng

this is what i got when i try to load a new torrent..

/home/tfcheng  more hs_err_pid74806.log
#
# An unexpected error has been detected by HotSpot Virtual Machine:
#
#  SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0x280da5af, pid=74806, tid=0x805c000
#
# Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM
(1.5.0_11-p5-tfcheng_11_jun_2007_18_23mixed mode)
# Problematic frame:
# C  [libc.so.6+0x215af]  realpath+0xbf
#

looking at the log:

/home/tfcheng  more hs_err_pid74806.log
#
# An unexpected error has been detected by HotSpot Virtual Machine:
#
#  SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0x280da5af, pid=74806, tid=0x805c000
#
# Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM
(1.5.0_11-p5-tfcheng_11_jun_2007_18_23mixed mode)
# Problematic frame:
# C  [libc.so.6+0x215af]  realpath+0xbf
#
---  T H R E A D  ---

Current thread (0x0805cc00):  JavaThread main [_thread_in_native,
id=134594560]

siginfo:si_signo=11, si_errno=0, si_code=12, si_addr=0x

Registers:
EAX=0x, EBX=0x281885e0, ECX=0x0001, EDX=0x086be500
ESP=0xbfbfc994, EBP=0xbfbfd63c, ESI=0x086be500, EDI=0x
EIP=0x280da5af, EFLAGS=0x00210246

Top of Stack: (sp=0xbfbfc994)
0xbfbfc994:   366449d4 0805c000 bfbfc9ec 280a5e05
0xbfbfc9a4:   08545c00 0805c048 000f 280b23d1
0xbfbfc9b4:     08545c00 0001
0xbfbfc9c4:   366449d4 0805c000 bfbfca1c 280a5e05
0xbfbfc9d4:   08545c00 0805c048 000f 366449d4
0xbfbfc9e4:   08545c00 0805c048 08545c00 280b23d1
0xbfbfc9f4:   083f9f10  0858e140 0001
0xbfbfca04:   0805c000 366449d4 bfbfca4c 280a7ca2

Instructions: (pc=0x280da5af)
0x280da59f:   00 00 31 c0 8d 65 f4 5b 5e 5f c9 c3 90 8b 45 0c
0x280da5af:   c6 00 2f c6 40 01 00 80 7e 01 00 8b 45 0c 74 e4

Stack: [0xbfa0,0xbfc0),  sp=0xbfbfc994,  free space=2034k
Native frames: (J=compiled Java code, j=interpreted, Vv=VM code, C=native
code)
C  [libc.so.6+0x215af]  realpath+0xbf
C  [libswt-pi-gtk-3345.so+0x43448]
Java_org_eclipse_swt_internal_gtk_OS_realpath+0x78
j  org.eclipse.swt.internal.gtk.OS.realpath([B[B)I+0
j  org.eclipse.swt.widgets.FileDialog.presetChooserDialog()V+166
j  org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.OpenTorrentWindow$2.handleEvent
(Lorg/eclipse/swt/widgets/Event;)V+83
J  org.eclipse.swt.widgets.EventTable.sendEvent
(Lorg/eclipse/swt/widgets/Event;)V
J  org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Display.runDeferredEvents()Z
J  org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Display.readAndDispatch()Z
v  ~RuntimeStub::alignment_frame_return Runtime1 stub
j  org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.mainwindow.SWTThread
.init(Lcom/aelitis/azureus/ui/IUIIntializer;)V+186
j  org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.mainwindow.SWTThread.createInstance
(Lcom/aelitis/azureus/ui/IUIIntializer;)V+34
j  org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.mainwindow.Initializer
.init(Lcom/aelitis/azureus/core/AzureusCore;Lorg/gudy/azureus2/ui/swt/StartServer;[Ljava/lang/String;)V+59
j  org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.Main.init([Ljava/lang/String;)V+116
j  org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.Main.main([Ljava/lang/String;)V+21
v  ~StubRoutines::call_stub
V  [libjvm.so+0x281ad8]
V  [libjvm.so+0x3ac048]
V  [libjvm.so+0x28121f]
V  [libjvm.so+0x28d411]
V  [libjvm.so+0x29e8d0]
C  [java+0x3b60]  _init+0x2c70
C  [java+0x135a]  _init+0x46a

Java frames: (J=compiled Java code, j=interpreted, Vv=VM code)
j  org.eclipse.swt.internal.gtk.OS.realpath([B[B)I+0
j  org.eclipse.swt.widgets.FileDialog.presetChooserDialog()V+166
j  org.eclipse.swt.widgets.FileDialog.openChooserDialog
()Ljava/lang/String;+82
j  org.eclipse.swt.widgets.FileDialog.open()Ljava/lang/String;+24
j  org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.OpenTorrentWindow$2.handleEvent
(Lorg/eclipse/swt/widgets/Event;)V+83
J  org.eclipse.swt.widgets.EventTable.sendEvent
(Lorg/eclipse/swt/widgets/Event;)V
J  org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Display.runDeferredEvents()Z
J  org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Display.readAndDispatch()Z
v  ~RuntimeStub::alignment_frame_return Runtime1 stub
j  org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.mainwindow.SWTThread
.init(Lcom/aelitis/azureus/ui/IUIIntializer;)V+186
j  org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.mainwindow.SWTThread.createInstance
(Lcom/aelitis/azureus/ui/IUIIntializer;)V+34
j  org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.mainwindow.Initializer
.init(Lcom/aelitis/azureus/core/AzureusCore;Lorg/gudy/azureus2/ui/swt/StartServer;[Ljava/lang/String;)V+59
j  org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.Main.init([Ljava/lang/String;)V+116
j  org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.Main.main([Ljava/lang/String;)V+21
v  ~StubRoutines::call_stub
---  P R O C E S S  ---

Java Threads: ( = current thread )
 0x08279a00 JavaThread Tracker Timer[2] daemon [_thread_blocked,
id=141293056]
 0x083ffe00 JavaThread DHTControl:internallookups[10] daemon
[_thread_blocked, id=143072256]
 0x083ffc00 JavaThread DHTControl:internallookups[9] daemon
[_thread_blocked, id=138066432]
 0x083ffa00 JavaThread DHTControl:internallookups[8] daemon
[_thread_blocked, id=142196224]
 0x083ff800 JavaThread DHTControl:internallookups[7] daemon
[_thread_blocked, id=142193664]
 0x083ff600 JavaThread DHTControl:internallookups[6] daemon
[_thread_blocked, id=141532160]
 0x083ff400 JavaThread DHTControl:internallookups[5] daemon

Re: azureus problem

2007-06-17 Thread Garrett Cooper

Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote:

this is what i got when i try to load a new torrent..

/home/tfcheng  more hs_err_pid74806.log
#
# An unexpected error has been detected by HotSpot Virtual Machine:
#
#  SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0x280da5af, pid=74806, tid=0x805c000
#
# Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM 
(1.5.0_11-p5-tfcheng_11_jun_2007_18_23 mixed mode)

# Problematic frame:
# C  [libc.so.6+0x215af]  realpath+0xbf
#

looking at the log:

/home/tfcheng  more hs_err_pid74806.log
#
# An unexpected error has been detected by HotSpot Virtual Machine:
#
#  SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0x280da5af, pid=74806, tid=0x805c000
#
# Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM 
(1.5.0_11-p5-tfcheng_11_jun_2007_18_23 mixed mode)

# Problematic frame:
# C  [libc.so.6+0x215af]  realpath+0xbf
#
---  T H R E A D  ---

Current thread (0x0805cc00):  JavaThread main [_thread_in_native, 
id=134594560]


siginfo:si_signo=11, si_errno=0, si_code=12, si_addr=0x

Registers:
EAX=0x, EBX=0x281885e0, ECX=0x0001, EDX=0x086be500
ESP=0xbfbfc994, EBP=0xbfbfd63c, ESI=0x086be500, EDI=0x
EIP=0x280da5af, EFLAGS=0x00210246

Top of Stack: (sp=0xbfbfc994)
0xbfbfc994:   366449d4 0805c000 bfbfc9ec 280a5e05
0xbfbfc9a4:   08545c00 0805c048 000f 280b23d1
0xbfbfc9b4:     08545c00 0001
0xbfbfc9c4:   366449d4 0805c000 bfbfca1c 280a5e05
0xbfbfc9d4:   08545c00 0805c048 000f 366449d4
0xbfbfc9e4:   08545c00 0805c048 08545c00 280b23d1
0xbfbfc9f4:   083f9f10  0858e140 0001
0xbfbfca04:   0805c000 366449d4 bfbfca4c 280a7ca2

Instructions: (pc=0x280da5af)
0x280da59f:   00 00 31 c0 8d 65 f4 5b 5e 5f c9 c3 90 8b 45 0c
0x280da5af:   c6 00 2f c6 40 01 00 80 7e 01 00 8b 45 0c 74 e4

Stack: [0xbfa0,0xbfc0),  sp=0xbfbfc994,  free space=2034k
Native frames: (J=compiled Java code, j=interpreted, Vv=VM code, 
C=native code)

C  [libc.so.6+0x215af]  realpath+0xbf
C  [libswt-pi-gtk-3345.so+0x43448]  
Java_org_eclipse_swt_internal_gtk_OS_realpath+0x78

j  org.eclipse.swt.internal.gtk.OS.realpath([B[B)I+0
j  org.eclipse.swt.widgets.FileDialog.presetChooserDialog()V+166
j  
org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.OpenTorrentWindow$2.handleEvent(Lorg/eclipse/swt/widgets/Event;)V+83
J  
org.eclipse.swt.widgets.EventTable.sendEvent(Lorg/eclipse/swt/widgets/Event;)V

J  org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Display.runDeferredEvents()Z
J  org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Display.readAndDispatch()Z
v  ~RuntimeStub::alignment_frame_return Runtime1 stub
j  
org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.mainwindow.SWTThread.init(Lcom/aelitis/azureus/ui/IUIIntializer;)V+186
j  
org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.mainwindow.SWTThread.createInstance(Lcom/aelitis/azureus/ui/IUIIntializer;)V+34 

j  
org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.mainwindow.Initializer.init(Lcom/aelitis/azureus/core/AzureusCore;Lorg/gudy/azureus2/ui/swt/StartServer;[Ljava/lang/String;)V+59

j  org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.Main.init([Ljava/lang/String;)V+116
j  org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.Main.main([Ljava/lang/String;)V+21
v  ~StubRoutines::call_stub
V  [libjvm.so+0x281ad8]
V  [libjvm.so+0x3ac048]
V  [libjvm.so+0x28121f]
V  [libjvm.so+0x28d411]
V  [libjvm.so+0x29e8d0 ]
C  [java+0x3b60]  _init+0x2c70
C  [java+0x135a]  _init+0x46a

Java frames: (J=compiled Java code, j=interpreted, Vv=VM code)
j  org.eclipse.swt.internal.gtk.OS.realpath([B[B)I+0
j  org.eclipse.swt.widgets.FileDialog.presetChooserDialog ()V+166
j  
org.eclipse.swt.widgets.FileDialog.openChooserDialog()Ljava/lang/String;+82

j  org.eclipse.swt.widgets.FileDialog.open()Ljava/lang/String;+24
j  org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.OpenTorrentWindow$2.handleEvent 
(Lorg/eclipse/swt/widgets/Event;)V+83
J  
org.eclipse.swt.widgets.EventTable.sendEvent(Lorg/eclipse/swt/widgets/Event;)V

J  org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Display.runDeferredEvents()Z
J  org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Display.readAndDispatch ()Z
v  ~RuntimeStub::alignment_frame_return Runtime1 stub
j  
org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.mainwindow.SWTThread.init(Lcom/aelitis/azureus/ui/IUIIntializer;)V+186
j  org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.mainwindow.SWTThread.createInstance 
(Lcom/aelitis/azureus/ui/IUIIntializer;)V+34
j  
org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.mainwindow.Initializer.init(Lcom/aelitis/azureus/core/AzureusCore;Lorg/gudy/azureus2/ui/swt/StartServer;[Ljava/lang/String;)V+59

j  org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.Main .init([Ljava/lang/String;)V+116
j  org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.Main.main([Ljava/lang/String;)V+21
v  ~StubRoutines::call_stub
---  P R O C E S S  ---

Java Threads: ( = current thread )
  0x08279a00 JavaThread Tracker Timer[2] daemon [_thread_blocked, 
id=141293056]
  0x083ffe00 JavaThread DHTControl:internallookups[10] daemon 
[_thread_blocked, id=143072256]
  0x083ffc00 JavaThread DHTControl:internallookups[9] daemon 
[_thread_blocked, id=138066432]
  0x083ffa00 JavaThread DHTControl:internallookups[8] daemon 
[_thread_blocked, id=142196224]
  0x083ff800 JavaThread DHTControl:internallookups[7] daemon 
[_thread_blocked, id=142193664]
  0x083ff600 JavaThread DHTControl:internallookups[6] daemon 
[_thread_blocked, id=141532160]
  

Re: Virtualization of FreeBSD

2007-06-17 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 22:47:42 +0300
Thanos Rizoulis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 One serious tip about Vmware, is that when selecting disks, you can 
 select a *physical* disk instead of a virtual and proceed with 
 installation on that physical disk. Or you can keep a freebsd server 
 installed on a virtual disk, then connect a physical disk on the same VM 
 and dump/restore as you please. It has been tested with over 7GB OS 
 installs and works like a charm.

cool, i knew about using the physical disk option, but hadn't used it for 
restore/dump :)
thx

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Re: Can No Longer Get To Virtual Consoles After -STABLE Update

2007-06-17 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 17:48:11 -0500
Tim Daneliuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have been happily running 6.2-STABLE w/xorg 7.2 for some time now.
 Last Friday I promoted the sources to the latest version of 6.2-STABLE,
 did mergemaster -i, and built world and a new SMP kernel.  Everything
 works as before after I rebooted *except* I can no longer use Alt-Ctrl #
 to get to the text consoles if X is running.  If I disable X, it works
 fine, but somehow X now seems to ignore these keys.  I did not upgrade
 anything other than the FreeBSD sources theselves, BTW.

Look for some threads in this list about ALT key and alternative keyboadd maps 
not working after the upgrade. There is a suuposed fiex, but I haven't tested 
it yet.
B

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Re: ekiga's audio input: dsp0.0?

2007-06-17 Thread Mikhail Teterin
On неділя 17 червень 2007, Mikhail Teterin wrote:
= Ekiga has a test settings buttons (under the configuration druid), but it 
= never plays back anything, that I say into the microphone (I tried two of 
= those already).

Figured it out. What I needed to do, was:

mixer recsrc
mixer mic 100 rec 100

Why aren't usable values on by default, when the machine boots, is beyond 
me...

-mi
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Re: fs cache

2007-06-17 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 10:24:21 +0300
Vlad GURDIGA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have FreeBSD 7-CURRENT and Ubuntu on the same computer but Firefox
 takes twice as long to start on a fresh boot. 

If you are using the default CURRENT kernel config, it has several options 
enabled to debug kernel and trace issues. This will slow down your system, 
although I am not sure whether this is actually your problem. You should try 
-STABLE.

you may want to compare the output of strace or similar to see where the time 
is spent.


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Re: X fails after upgrade to xorg-7.2; FreeBSD AMD64 w/ Radeon 9600 Pro

2007-06-17 Thread Byron Campbell
On Sunday 17 June 2007 7:21:03 pm Mark Kirkwood wrote:
 Byron Campbell wrote:
  Help, X was working just fine until I did a portupgrade
  of xorg 6.9.0 to 7.2.
 
  Looks like X is starting but my LCD monitor just goes
  black with the monitor's OSD reporting video input, out
  of range.
 
  I've gone back through Xorg configuration
  (via xorgcfg -textmode) and verified correct settings
  for my graphics card and the monitor's Horz. / Vert. scan
  frequencies etc., everything being in order.
 
  #Xorg -configure gives Driver ati, Boardname RV350 AP
  [Radeon 9600] and BusID PCI:1:0:0
 
  I've also run #xorgcfg -textmode choosing Driver radeon
  and Card ** ATI Radeon (generic).. and still no luck.
 
  Please help. Anyone have their Radeon 9600 card working
  in Xorg-7.2 with just a basic / non accelerated setup, or
  any setup?
 
  Thanks,
  Byron
 
 
  System info:
 
  FreeBSD 6.2 stable (AMD64)
  Graphics card: ATI  Radeon 9600 Pro (using the VGA
  monitor connection jack)
  Mainboard: MSI KT8 Neo2-F

 I've seen this with VGA connections - e.g I've a 9550
 (RV350 AS) and for DVI connection it works fine with the
 file generated by 'Xorg -configure' with accel and drm, but
 with VGA fails with 'out of range'. I needed to tell it
 which display resolution to use by adding a 'Modes' clause
 to the Display subsection of xorg.conf e.g:

 Section Screen
  Identifier Screen0
  Device Card0
  MonitorMonitor0
  SubSection Display
  Viewport   0 0
  Depth 24
   Modes   1680x1050  # whatever mode your monitor uses here
  EndSubSection
 EndSection


 Cheers

 Mark

Thanks for the suggestion Mark. I do have the modes entered, 
and even set it to the single mode of 1280x1024 but no 
luck. 

I went back and ran Xorg -configure again, and noted the 
following error messages:

dlopen: /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//atimisc_drv.so: 
Undefined symbol ATIMemoryTypeNames_88800CX
(EE) Failed to 
load   /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//atimisc_drv.so

(EE) Failed to load module atimisc (loader failed, 7)
(++) Using config file: /root/xorg.conf.new
(WW) RADEON: No matching Device section for instance (BusID 
PCI:1:0:1) found
(**) RADEON(0) : RADEONPreInit

atimisc_drv.so is present in the above mentioned directory. 

My graphics card is the PowerColor ATI Radeon 9600 Pro (RV350 
AP) 

Byron
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Fwd: azureus problem

2007-06-17 Thread Tsu-Fan Cheng

-- Forwarded message --
From: Tsu-Fan Cheng [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Jun 17, 2007 9:50 PM
Subject: Re: azureus problem
To: Garrett Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED]

yeah, i compiled myself... (went to java site to downlaod those sources)

thans!!

TFC

On 6/17/07, Garrett Cooper  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote:
 this is what i got when i try to load a new torrent..

 /home/tfcheng  more hs_err_pid74806.log
 #
 # An unexpected error has been detected by HotSpot Virtual Machine:
 #
 #  SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0x280da5af, pid=74806, tid=0x805c000
 #
 # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM
 (1.5.0_11-p5-tfcheng_11_jun_2007_18_23 mixed mode)
 # Problematic frame:
 # C  [libc.so.6+0x215af]  realpath+0xbf
 #

 looking at the log:

 /home/tfcheng  more hs_err_pid74806.log
 #
 # An unexpected error has been detected by HotSpot Virtual Machine:
 #
 #  SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0x280da5af, pid=74806, tid=0x805c000
 #
 # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM
 (1.5.0_11-p5-tfcheng_11_jun_2007_18_23 mixed mode)
 # Problematic frame:
 # C  [libc.so.6+0x215af]  realpath+0xbf
 #
 ---  T H R E A D  ---

 Current thread (0x0805cc00):  JavaThread main [_thread_in_native,
 id=134594560]

 siginfo:si_signo=11, si_errno=0, si_code=12, si_addr=0x

 Registers:
 EAX=0x, EBX=0x281885e0, ECX=0x0001, EDX=0x086be500
 ESP=0xbfbfc994, EBP=0xbfbfd63c, ESI=0x086be500, EDI=0x
 EIP=0x280da5af, EFLAGS=0x00210246

 Top of Stack: (sp=0xbfbfc994)
 0xbfbfc994:   366449d4 0805c000 bfbfc9ec 280a5e05
 0xbfbfc9a4:   08545c00 0805c048 000f 280b23d1
 0xbfbfc9b4:     08545c00 0001
 0xbfbfc9c4:   366449d4 0805c000 bfbfca1c 280a5e05
 0xbfbfc9d4:   08545c00 0805c048 000f 366449d4
 0xbfbfc9e4:   08545c00 0805c048 08545c00 280b23d1
 0xbfbfc9f4:   083f9f10  0858e140 0001
 0xbfbfca04:   0805c000 366449d4 bfbfca4c 280a7ca2

 Instructions: (pc=0x280da5af)
 0x280da59f:   00 00 31 c0 8d 65 f4 5b 5e 5f c9 c3 90 8b 45 0c
 0x280da5af:   c6 00 2f c6 40 01 00 80 7e 01 00 8b 45 0c 74 e4

 Stack: [0xbfa0,0xbfc0),  sp=0xbfbfc994,  free space=2034k
 Native frames: (J=compiled Java code, j=interpreted, Vv=VM code,
 C=native code)
 C  [libc.so.6+0x215af]  realpath+0xbf
 C  [libswt-pi-gtk-3345.so+0x43448]
 Java_org_eclipse_swt_internal_gtk_OS_realpath+0x78
 j  org.eclipse.swt.internal.gtk.OS.realpath([B[B)I+0
 j  org.eclipse.swt.widgets.FileDialog.presetChooserDialog()V+166
 j
 
org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.OpenTorrentWindow$2.handleEvent(Lorg/eclipse/swt/widgets/Event;)V+83

 J
 org.eclipse.swt.widgets.EventTable.sendEvent
(Lorg/eclipse/swt/widgets/Event;)V
 J  org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Display.runDeferredEvents()Z
 J  org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Display.readAndDispatch()Z
 v  ~RuntimeStub::alignment_frame_return Runtime1 stub
 j
 org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.mainwindow.SWTThread
.init(Lcom/aelitis/azureus/ui/IUIIntializer;)V+186
 j
 
org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.mainwindow.SWTThread.createInstance(Lcom/aelitis/azureus/ui/IUIIntializer;)V+34

 j
 
org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.mainwindow.Initializer.init(Lcom/aelitis/azureus/core/AzureusCore;Lorg/gudy/azureus2/ui/swt/StartServer;[Ljava/lang/String;)V+59

 j  org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.Main.init([Ljava/lang/String;)V+116
 j  org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.Main.main([Ljava/lang/String;)V+21
 v  ~StubRoutines::call_stub
 V  [libjvm.so+0x281ad8]
 V  [libjvm.so+0x3ac048]
 V  [libjvm.so+0x28121f]
 V  [libjvm.so+0x28d411]
 V  [libjvm.so+0x29e8d0 ]
 C  [java+0x3b60]  _init+0x2c70
 C  [java+0x135a]  _init+0x46a

 Java frames: (J=compiled Java code, j=interpreted, Vv=VM code)
 j  org.eclipse.swt.internal.gtk.OS.realpath([B[B)I+0
 j  org.eclipse.swt.widgets.FileDialog.presetChooserDialog ()V+166
 j
 org.eclipse.swt.widgets.FileDialog.openChooserDialog()Ljava/lang/String;+82

 j  org.eclipse.swt.widgets.FileDialog.open()Ljava/lang/String;+24
 j  org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.OpenTorrentWindow$2.handleEvent
 (Lorg/eclipse/swt/widgets/Event;)V+83
 J
 org.eclipse.swt.widgets.EventTable.sendEvent(Lorg/eclipse/swt/widgets/Event;)V
 J  org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Display.runDeferredEvents()Z
 J  org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Display.readAndDispatch ()Z
 v  ~RuntimeStub::alignment_frame_return Runtime1 stub
 j
 org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.mainwindow.SWTThread
.init(Lcom/aelitis/azureus/ui/IUIIntializer;)V+186
 j  org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.mainwindow.SWTThread.createInstance
 (Lcom/aelitis/azureus/ui/IUIIntializer;)V+34
 j
 org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.mainwindow.Initializer
.init(Lcom/aelitis/azureus/core/AzureusCore;Lorg/gudy/azureus2/ui/swt/StartServer;[Ljava/lang/String;)V+59
 j  org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.Main .init([Ljava/lang/String;)V+116
 j  org.gudy.azureus2.ui.swt.Main.main([Ljava/lang/String;)V+21
 v  ~StubRoutines::call_stub
 ---  P R O C E S S  ---

 Java Threads: ( = current thread )
   0x08279a00 JavaThread Tracker Timer[2] daemon [_thread_blocked,
 id=141293056]
   0x083ffe00 JavaThread DHTControl:internallookups[10] daemon
 [_thread_blocked, 

Re: azureus problem

2007-06-17 Thread Tsu-Fan Cheng

or maybe i should use jdk1.4??


TFC




 Hmmm... there might be an issue between the SWT library and
 the Java
 VM. I'd first see if you can use a different VM, then try and
contact
 the Azureus, then the SWT devs about this issue if it persists,
 working
 your way up the tree.
 But first.. did you build the VM yourself, or are you using the
 prepackaged one build by the FreeBSD group?
 -Garrett


Try the prepackaged version first then before doing anything rash (note:
you can't do this if you run CURRENT)..
-Garrett


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Re: Help: apache22 and postgresql81 on 6.2

2007-06-17 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 17:26:35 -0600
hal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I just did a fresh install of 6.2.

Hi,
6.2-RELEASE? -STABLE?

You should update your system before putting a system live. If you are using a 
default kernel configuration (aka GENERIC), use freebsd-update to bring it up 
to date. (man freebsd-update).


 When trying to build apache22 and postgresql81
 from the ports collection each gives the following
 error:

You should also update your ports collection. Check the handbook for how to do 
this. You can find the handbook in freebsd.org. And then upgrade all ports (or 
at least the ones that have security issues and are related to your issue at 
hand, eg, gmake).
you can use portaudit ( ports-mgmt/portaudit ) to check for security issues .

 
 /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libkvm.so.2
 not found, required by gmake
 
 So... what do I do now?
 Where can I find libkvm.so.2?
 Can someone give me a clue?

locate libkvm in my system shows 
/lib/libkvm.so.3

(and tons of other files which are not necessarily what gmake is actually 
trying to use).

You could use libmap.conf to remap the calls from libkvm.so.2 to libkvm.so.3 , 
but I suggest you upgrade your wolrd + kernel + ports first.

If you have any more questions / problems, just send them to the list :)
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Re: X fails after upgrade to xorg-7.2; FreeBSD AMD64 w/ Radeon 9600 Pro

2007-06-17 Thread Mark Kirkwood

Byron Campbell wrote:



I went back and ran Xorg -configure again, and noted the 
following error messages:


dlopen: /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//atimisc_drv.so: 
Undefined symbol ATIMemoryTypeNames_88800CX
(EE) Failed to 
load   /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//atimisc_drv.so


(EE) Failed to load module atimisc (loader failed, 7)
(++) Using config file: /root/xorg.conf.new
(WW) RADEON: No matching Device section for instance (BusID 
PCI:1:0:1) found

(**) RADEON(0) : RADEONPreInit

atimisc_drv.so is present in the above mentioned directory. 

My graphics card is the PowerColor ATI Radeon 9600 Pro (RV350 
AP) 


AFAICS the symbol is defined in:

/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/ati_drv.so

e.g:

$ nm ati_drv.so|grep ATIMemoryTypeNaes_88800CX
b5c0 D ATIMemoryTypeNames_88800CX

What does it show on your system (I'm wondering if your ati drivers have 
not been upgraded properly).


Cheers

Mark
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Re: Free BSD font

2007-06-17 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:30:20 +0100
Martin Houlden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 HI guys
 
 I currently run a Free BSD server using plesk 8.1 - not that this has  
 anything to do with my question!
 
 But i'm putting together a corporate ID for a charity, and have been  
 looking for a rounded font. So far i've tried the usual suspects  
 (VAG, arial  helvetica rounded) but not found anything that really  
 works.
 
 Can you let me know what font you've used for the main Free BSD logo  
 - I think it's really very nice and perfectly understated.

Hi Martin,
search the archives for the announcement of the new logo (sometime last year). 
It includes information about the winner entry (as well as LOADS of discussions 
on how good/bad/horrible/ok it is :-) ). I remember reading something about the 
font there too.

Or browse freebsd.org - i'm pretty certain the information about the logo is 
there somewhere.

good luck
_
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end ad infinitum
   ibid.

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Re: azureus problem

2007-06-17 Thread Garrett Cooper

Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote:

or maybe i should use jdk1.4??


TFC



 Hmmm... there might be an issue between the SWT library and
 the Java
 VM. I'd first see if you can use a different VM, then try
and contact
 the Azureus, then the SWT devs about this issue if it persists,
 working
 your way up the tree.
 But first.. did you build the VM yourself, or are you
using the
 prepackaged one build by the FreeBSD group?
 -Garrett


Try the prepackaged version first then before doing anything rash
(note:
you can't do this if you run CURRENT)..
-Garrett


No. Using 1.4 will only shove the issue under the carpet instead of 
dealing with it and fixing the issue for many other users.


Besides, 1.4 wasn't all that great anyhow :).
-Garrett
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Re: FreeBSD and Robotics

2007-06-17 Thread Modulok

It's only as good as the drivers you write to control the robot. It
also depends on just how critical your critical situations refers
to.

In situations where human life is directly dependent upon the
integrity of the system, a modular kernel design has traditionally
been preferred over the monolithic kernel designs found in Windows,
Linux, BSD. That isn't to say that FreeBSD is unstable, in fact it's
very stable. However, in a situation where people die if the system
fails, there are some questions as to the safety of the underlying
designs of these kernels. The reason for this is, (in general), device
drivers operate in the kernel's memory space and therefore have the
potential to bring down the rest of the system, should they fail,
(again, in general). In a modular kernel design, where everything is
run in user-space, if a single driver goes berserk it is entirely
insulated from the rest of the system.

Then there are embedded systems, which are regarded as more stable
because the hardware they run on is identical from one system to the
next and never changes. Contrast this to operating systems that must
run on a wide range of consumer hardware; there is a statistically
higher probability of mistakes, just due to the increased size of the
codebase. (In practice this doesn't always work out though, as I've
used some embedded systems that were embarrassingly unstable). The
smaller codebase of embedded systems and modular kernels is typically
easier to audit, as there is far less code. Where human life is
directly dependent, the code must be audited by a third party.

For pretty much any other critical application, FreeBSD Release has
been quite stable in my experience. Strip the kernel of everything you
don't need, write good drivers and run it all on stable hardware and
you should be fine in most situations. You'll probably go years
between reboots.

Just my 2 cents.
-Modulok-

On 6/17/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I've read some really good things about FreeBSD, especially its virus
resistance and reliability.

Will FreeBSD work on a robot that has to be trusted in critical situations?

Kevin

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Re: ekiga's audio input: dsp0.0?

2007-06-17 Thread Stuart Barkley
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 at 22:03 -0400, Mikhail Teterin wrote:

 On ?? 17 ??? 2007, Mikhail Teterin wrote:
 = Ekiga has a test settings buttons (under the configuration druid), but it
 = never plays back anything, that I say into the microphone (I tried two of
 = those already).

 Figured it out. What I needed to do, was:

   mixer recsrc

This just shows the current input source.

   mixer mic 100 rec 100

You probably actually want:

% mixer =rec mic
% mixer mic 0 rec 100

Setting mic 100 will also mix your mic input with you main speaker
output all of the time which may cause feedback or other issues.  I
recently was recording something and the speaker output

 Why aren't usable values on by default, when the machine boots, is beyond
 me...

6.2-RELEASE (and other versions) restore sound settings to the value
saved on the previous shutdown.  I'm not sure what the very initial
values are on a freshly installed system (may even be sound device or
BIOS dependent).

I actually have my /etc/rc.d/mixer hacked to not save setting on
shutdown which restores known/desired settings.  (mixer_save=NO).

--- /etc/rc.d/mixer.origFri Jan 12 02:42:21 2007
+++ /etc/rc.d/mixer Sat Jun 16 02:10:55 2007
@@ -34,6 +34,12 @@
 . /etc/rc.subr

 name=mixer
+
+# patch: allow mixer_enable=no in rc.conf
+rcvar=`set_rcvar`
+: ${mixer_enable=YES}
+: ${mixer_save=YES}
+
 stop_cmd=mixer_stop
 start_cmd=mixer_start
 reload_cmd=mixer_start
@@ -92,6 +98,10 @@
 mixer_stop()
 {
local mixer
+
+   if ! checkyesno mixer_save; then
+   return
+   fi

for mixer in `list_mixers`; do
mixer_save ${mixer}

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RE: FreeBSD and Robotics

2007-06-17 Thread Murray Taylor
I can only think of one other point for this...
Interrupt latency.  Depending on what you are attempting to do,
the variable nature of interrupt responses could be an issue.
I.e. if the system becomes io bound during a data capture cycle,
and something occurs that requires a response within a very narrow
window, it is possible to miss the window due to other interrupt
processes running.

For this reason, robotics systems often run on highly optimised
single process systems where there is a 'guaranteed' poll cycle
and / or a very minimal defined interrupt system with minimal
overheads.

mjt
 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Modulok
 Sent: Monday, 18 June 2007 12:40 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Robotics
 
 It's only as good as the drivers you write to control the robot. It
 also depends on just how critical your critical situations refers
 to.
 
 In situations where human life is directly dependent upon the
 integrity of the system, a modular kernel design has traditionally
 been preferred over the monolithic kernel designs found in Windows,
 Linux, BSD. That isn't to say that FreeBSD is unstable, in fact it's
 very stable. However, in a situation where people die if the system
 fails, there are some questions as to the safety of the underlying
 designs of these kernels. The reason for this is, (in general), device
 drivers operate in the kernel's memory space and therefore have the
 potential to bring down the rest of the system, should they fail,
 (again, in general). In a modular kernel design, where everything is
 run in user-space, if a single driver goes berserk it is entirely
 insulated from the rest of the system.
 
 Then there are embedded systems, which are regarded as more stable
 because the hardware they run on is identical from one system to the
 next and never changes. Contrast this to operating systems that must
 run on a wide range of consumer hardware; there is a statistically
 higher probability of mistakes, just due to the increased size of the
 codebase. (In practice this doesn't always work out though, as I've
 used some embedded systems that were embarrassingly unstable). The
 smaller codebase of embedded systems and modular kernels is typically
 easier to audit, as there is far less code. Where human life is
 directly dependent, the code must be audited by a third party.
 
 For pretty much any other critical application, FreeBSD Release has
 been quite stable in my experience. Strip the kernel of everything you
 don't need, write good drivers and run it all on stable hardware and
 you should be fine in most situations. You'll probably go years
 between reboots.
 
 Just my 2 cents.
 -Modulok-
 
 On 6/17/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I've read some really good things about FreeBSD, especially 
 its virus
  resistance and reliability.
 
  Will FreeBSD work on a robot that has to be trusted in 
 critical situations?
 
  Kevin
 
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DISPLAY troubles...

2007-06-17 Thread Gary Kline
This is a strange one.  Last time I ran my broswer it worked.  
Also, I *finally* had Gnome auto-booting.  Just now, terminal
fails to come up ; likewise with firefox.  I rebooted twice but
don't see anything unusual.

I'm rerunning portupgrade -a for the umpteent time.  If anybody
knows why the DISPLAY fails, I'd like a clue.  env shows the
display as :0.0, but nothing works.

gary

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Re: DISPLAY troubles...

2007-06-17 Thread Gary Kline
On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 12:45:59AM -0400, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
 Gary Kline wrote:
  This is a strange one.  Last time I ran my broswer it worked.  
  Also, I *finally* had Gnome auto-booting.  Just now, terminal
  fails to come up ; likewise with firefox.  I rebooted twice but
  don't see anything unusual.
  
  I'm rerunning portupgrade -a for the umpteent time.  If anybody
  knows why the DISPLAY fails, I'd like a clue.  env shows the
  display as :0.0, but nothing works.
 
 You can try ktracing the simplest non-working X application from the
 command line.  See if anything obvious shows up.
 


I can even get X working.  Noy kdm, not gdm, not even xdm.
I'll check the /tmp/.X11* file

gary

PS:  I'm upgrading ports right this sec, but ought to be ble to 
go in thru F3 or the like.



 Joe
 
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 Joe Marcus Clarke
 FreeBSD GNOME Team::  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 FreeNode / #freebsd-gnome
 http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome

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Re: DISPLAY troubles...

2007-06-17 Thread Joe Marcus Clarke
Gary Kline wrote:
   This is a strange one.  Last time I ran my broswer it worked.  
   Also, I *finally* had Gnome auto-booting.  Just now, terminal
   fails to come up ; likewise with firefox.  I rebooted twice but
   don't see anything unusual.
 
   I'm rerunning portupgrade -a for the umpteent time.  If anybody
   knows why the DISPLAY fails, I'd like a clue.  env shows the
   display as :0.0, but nothing works.

You can try ktracing the simplest non-working X application from the
command line.  See if anything obvious shows up.

Joe

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Re: ekiga's audio input: dsp0.0?

2007-06-17 Thread Andriy Babiy
 I'm struggling with configuring Ekiga's (former gnomemeeting) to work
 with my microphone on FreeBSD-6.2-stable/amd64.

 Ekiga has a test settings buttons (under the configuration druid), but
 it never plays back anything, that I say into the microphone (I tried
 two of those already).

 Ekiga is trying to use /dev/dsp0.0. Is that the right device? Sound(4)
 says, dsprM.N should be used for input -- do I need to force ekiga into
 using that?

 I know, the sound itself works -- including from ekiga -- because I can
 test play the various sounds, that come with the application.

 Does anyone have ekiga working right on FreeBSD-6 (the port's maintainer
 has already told me, he no longer uses the software)? Thanks!

 -mi

 P.S. I use the snd_ich audio module. My /dev/sndstat reads:

 FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm)
 Installed devices:
 pcm0: AMD-8111 at io 0xc800, 0xcc00 irq 17 bufsz 16384 kld snd_ich
 (1p/1r/2v channels duplex default)

Hi Mikhail,

Have you tried connecting to the ekiga test address? You can find it at 
their site; if I'm not mistaken it's [EMAIL PROTECTED] Try that; it should 
re-play whatever you say to a microphone in a several seconds.
Test Settings buttons in audio/video configuration tabs didn't re-play 
anything for me, so I decided they did something different. Audio/video 
works for me with the default settings; I didn't have to force anything.

HTH,

Andriy
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RE: FreeBSD and Robotics

2007-06-17 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Modulok
 Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 7:40 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Robotics
 
 
 It's only as good as the drivers you write to control the robot. It
 also depends on just how critical your critical situations refers
 to.
 
 In situations where human life is directly dependent upon the
 integrity of the system, a modular kernel design has traditionally
 been preferred over the monolithic kernel designs found in Windows,
 Linux, BSD. That isn't to say that FreeBSD is unstable, in fact it's
 very stable. However, in a situation where people die if the system
 fails, there are some questions as to the safety of the underlying
 designs of these kernels. The reason for this is, (in general), device
 drivers operate in the kernel's memory space and therefore have the
 potential to bring down the rest of the system, should they fail,
 (again, in general). In a modular kernel design, where everything is
 run in user-space, if a single driver goes berserk it is entirely
 insulated from the rest of the system.
 
 Then there are embedded systems, which are regarded as more stable
 because the hardware they run on is identical from one system to the
 next and never changes. Contrast this to operating systems that must
 run on a wide range of consumer hardware; there is a statistically
 higher probability of mistakes, just due to the increased size of the
 codebase. (In practice this doesn't always work out though, as I've
 used some embedded systems that were embarrassingly unstable). The
 smaller codebase of embedded systems and modular kernels is typically
 easier to audit, as there is far less code. Where human life is
 directly dependent, the code must be audited by a third party.
 

There's another issue and that is POST on standard PC hardware.  POST
takes too long.  For example the auto industry has agreed on a standard
time that a car engine computer must be fully operational, it is very
short, no more than something like 2 seconds or so.  Enough so that when
you turn the key and the engine starts cranking, that the engine computer
has completely booted and is running by the second crank.

That is why you probably will never see standard computer hardware used
in the operating room of a hospital to control patient life support, for
example.  If for example during an operation the computer controlling an
artificial heart suddenly dies, the staff simply unplugs the lines from
the computer and plug them into another computer which then is switched on
and within a second has come fully ready, and operating.  You could not
wait the 30-60 seconds that POST on a regular PC would take to complete.

By contrast, regular PC gear is used very much for stuff like image
analysis and non-critical gear in a hospital.  If the computer running a
CAT scanner were to die in the middle of a scan, no big deal, you
just replace it and restart the scan from the beginning.

Ted
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RE: Need help with GNU assembly

2007-06-17 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

http://user.nj.net/~tms/hello.html

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Patil, Kiran
 Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 2:11 PM
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Cc: Patil, Kiran
 Subject: Need help with GNU assembly
 
 
 Hi All,
 
  
 
 I am trying to use GNU assembly. I am trying simple thing such as ,
 moving content of memory location into general purpose register (ax).
 
  
 
 I have following code :
 
  
 
 struct context {
 
  
 
 unsigned long mask[8];
 
 } CONTEXT;
 
  
 
 int main()
 
 {
 
 CONTEXT sr;
 
 sr.mask[5] = 0x8FED;
 
  
 
 __asm ( movw %0, %ax : : m (*(unsigned
 short*)sr.mask[5]) );
 
 return 0;
 
 }
 
  
 
 Compiler complains with error bad substitution directive in asm
 instruction.
 
  
 
 I tried changing the code something like this :
 
  
 
 __asm ( movw %0, %ax : : m (*(unsigned short*)sr.mask+5) );
 
  
 
 Still error is same, then I tried following:
 
  
 
 Unsigned short* ptemp = sr.mask[5];
 
 __asm ( movw %0, %ax : : m (*(unsigned short*)ptemp) );
 
 But still no luck, compiler reported same error as mentioned above
 
  
 
 Any help is appreciated. Please let me know where I am mistake.
 
  
 
 Thanks,
 
 -- Kiran P.
 
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denyhosts and the threshold level

2007-06-17 Thread Zbigniew Szalbot

Hello,

I have denyhosts set with the following options:

DENY_THRESHOLD_INVALID = 3
DENY_THRESHOLD_VALID = 3

In my understanding this should block all ssh login attempts from a host 
which fails to provide correct login credentials 3 times (no matter if 
the user actually exists or not at my system). This appears to work. But 
I have a question. When I look at the log I can see something like that:


Failed password for root from 218.9.127.236 port 46472 ssh2 Jun 17 
19:55:38 lists sshd[8048]:
Failed password for root from 218.9.127.236 port 46631 ssh2 Jun 17 
19:55:42 lists sshd[8052]:
Failed password for root from 218.9.127.236 port 46786 ssh2 Jun 17 
19:55:45 lists sshd[8057]:
Failed password for root from 218.9.127.236 port 46952 ssh2 Jun 17 
19:55:49 lists sshd[8069]:
Failed password for root from 218.9.127.236 port 47106 ssh2 Jun 17 
19:55:53 lists sshd[8071]:
Failed password for root from 218.9.127.236 port 47261 ssh2 Jun 17 
19:55:56 lists sshd[8075]:
Failed password for root from 218.9.127.236 port 47414 ssh2 Jun 17 
19:56:00 lists sshd[8079]:
Failed password for root from 218.9.127.236 port 47566 ssh2 Jun 17 
19:56:03 lists sshd[8081]:


How can I determine whether the user has actually been cut off after 3 
attempts? Or does the above mean that the user was not blocked?


Many thanks for your advice!

Warm regards from Poland.

Zbigniew Szalbot

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