Re: android phone -pc-ineternet

[Da Rock]

On 03/13/11 10:02, ajtiM wrote:

Hi!

I have a wire (cable) internet on my home PC with FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE #0.
I have also a new HTC Inspire 4G phone which I like to connet to the Internet
through my PC. It has an option "Internet Pass-through". I am running also pf
firewall.
I connecte the phone to the computer (USB port) with option "Internet Pass-
through" but it is not easy to me.
In my pflog I got:
DateInterface   Action  RuleDirection   ProtocolSrc. 
addressSrc. port   
Dest. address   Dest. port
2011-03-12 17:25:35.356233  sk0 drop9   in  udp 
192.168.0.107   137 
192.168.0.255   137
2011-03-12 17:25:38.121827  sk0 drop9   in  udp 
192.168.0.107   138 
192.168.0.255   138
   
A little confused as to what you're trying to do. The USB internet 
sharing (or pass through as you put it) allows your PC to use the 
phone's internet. To get the phone to use your home internet service it 
needs to use the wifi connection.


Alternatively, you can access your home network using the 4G network 
using the VPN services.


IF I understand you correctly here, you need to configure the wifi 
connection on your phone, and have a wifi access point available. Else- 
see above... :)


HTH
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

FreeBSD CURRENT custom ISO install image: howto?

[O. Hartmann]

I'm desperately looking for howto creating my own FreeBSD 
9.0-CURRENT/amd64 custom installation DVD. Google delivers a lot of 
outdated stuff and I wasn't able to find some hints in the handbook, so 
maybe one here can help.


I've already all sources via 'svn' (no CVS) on the local box. The 
intention is to be able to use new bsdinstall instead of sysinstall for 
having GPT partitions.


Please set me CC if responding.

Thanks in advance,
Oliver
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: HAL must die!

[Jerry]

On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 06:29:25 +
Matthew Seaman  articulated:

> On 16/03/2011 00:37, Jerry wrote:
> > Microsoft has approximately 90% of the desktop market share with
> > everyone else dividing up the remainder. If you are on a Microsoft
> > platform you use their products. The same applies to other platforms
> > and their utilities.
> 
> Microsoft may once have had 90% of the desktop market -- but is that
> still true?  Macs seem to be everywhere nowadays.
> 
> Also, how important is 'desktop' nowadays, compared to mobile browsers
> and the like?  If the iPhone doesn't support Flash, then anyone with
> any sense is going to provide an HTML5 alternative.

There are numerous sites with purport to state the latest statistics
on OS usage, etc. This is just one that I have used before. I obviously
cannot verify its accuracy. As far as I can tell, it is an impartial
assessment.

http://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=8

In an interesting side note, another article that I read recently and
am trying to locate at this moment states that 50% of users who
switched to MAC from Windows in the last 5 years are now seriously
considering dumping it and moving to a Windows 7 machine. Their biggest
complain was with the added complexity of doing routine tasks. A lack
of job specific software was also mentioned. Exactly what that entails
I have no idea. Apparently, keyboard users found Windows easier to use
and maneuver. I am a mouse person myself so I would not be able to
comment on that even if I used a MAC.

In any case, the subject declaring "HAL must die" if no longer
relevant. It is all ready dead, except on FreeBSD. Even its author has
declared it so. The real question is how long are the developers of
the fragmented open-source community going to continue to display
testosterone poisoning by refusing to come together and develop one
common interface/API or whatever they want to declare it to be that
works on all the competing distros and thereby helps to unite the
open-source community? The sad part is even if that did happen, each
distro would then refuse to use it because it was not licensed according
to their own specifications. Yes indeed, you have to love standards,
there are so many of them.

-- 
Jerry ✌
freebsd.u...@seibercom.net

Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored.
Please do not ignore the Reply-To header.
__

___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: HAL must die!

[Da Rock]

On 03/16/11 21:30, Jerry wrote:

On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 06:29:25 +
Matthew Seaman  articulated:

   

On 16/03/2011 00:37, Jerry wrote:
 

Microsoft has approximately 90% of the desktop market share with
everyone else dividing up the remainder. If you are on a Microsoft
platform you use their products. The same applies to other platforms
and their utilities.
   

Microsoft may once have had 90% of the desktop market -- but is that
still true?  Macs seem to be everywhere nowadays.

Also, how important is 'desktop' nowadays, compared to mobile browsers
and the like?  If the iPhone doesn't support Flash, then anyone with
any sense is going to provide an HTML5 alternative.
 

There are numerous sites with purport to state the latest statistics
on OS usage, etc. This is just one that I have used before. I obviously
cannot verify its accuracy. As far as I can tell, it is an impartial
assessment.

http://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=8

In an interesting side note, another article that I read recently and
am trying to locate at this moment states that 50% of users who
switched to MAC from Windows in the last 5 years are now seriously
considering dumping it and moving to a Windows 7 machine. Their biggest
complain was with the added complexity of doing routine tasks. A lack
of job specific software was also mentioned. Exactly what that entails
I have no idea. Apparently, keyboard users found Windows easier to use
and maneuver. I am a mouse person myself so I would not be able to
comment on that even if I used a MAC.

In any case, the subject declaring "HAL must die" if no longer
relevant. It is all ready dead, except on FreeBSD. Even its author has
declared it so. The real question is how long are the developers of
the fragmented open-source community going to continue to display
testosterone poisoning by refusing to come together and develop one
common interface/API or whatever they want to declare it to be that
works on all the competing distros and thereby helps to unite the
open-source community? The sad part is even if that did happen, each
distro would then refuse to use it because it was not licensed according
to their own specifications. Yes indeed, you have to love standards,
there are so many of them.
   
I may be just talking shit here, but shouldn't there be some posix (or 
similar) specification for this? That would bypass the licensing 
requirements- right? Then the coding would be done by the licensor 
according to their own requirements, but the interface would be the same.


Hell, by that reckoning even Winblow$ and Mac could get onboard if they 
chose too- not that anyone could see M$ coming to any open standards 
party where they don't think they could gain the upper hand :)


Might diminish the pissing contest too...
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Booting from firmware RAID

[Ilya Kazakevich]

Hello,

This is probably more PC-specific than freebsd-specific question. I have
intel firmware raid. OS needs drivers to work with it. FreeBSD sees it as
ar0, so it has drivers.
But I want my OS to be installed on this drive and boot from it. It is not
good idea, but I really want to do it:)
Is it possible?

boot0 and boot1 both work with HDD via BIOS interrupts and CHS, right? So,
how do they know how to access RAID? They has no drivers.
Or BIOS supports interrupts to access RAID with out of drivers? If so --
what for drivers are needed? To access drive via ATA interface?

Is it possible to boot freebsd from "firmware raid"?

Ilya.
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

ImageMagick, pecl-imagick (FreeBSD vs Ubuntu) problem (djvu as well?)

[B. Cook]

I have a server that I just put together to work with image creation.

Its running lighttpd with php being handled by php-fpm all from ports 
running 8.2 amd64.


My problem is quite strange; a simple php script reading in a djvu file 
(via Imagick()) causes php to hang and not do anything. - no errors, 
nothing.


Running the script via php -f also does the same thing..

cat -n something.php
 1  setImageFormat('png');// force output format to PNG
 4  
 5  // now write to browser
 6  header('Content-type: '.$im->getImageFormat());
 7  echo $im->getimageblob();
 8  ?>

So aside from the problem that this php does not do anything..

root@fbsd [/tmp]# 28 > convert /tmp/c3067.djvu /tmp/file.png && echo $?
0

root@fbsd [/tmp]# 29 > file file.png
file.png: PNG image, 957 x 1063, 8-bit/color RGBA, non-interlaced

Running the command to convert the djvu file manually seems to have no 
problems at all..


The problem lies in that the developer of this (I am not the main 
developer) says that "all this works perfectly on my Ubuntu 10.04 LTS 
server at home".. *sigh*


He sent me a php -m to compare my minimal setup to his bloated one; and 
I built every damn module to match.. no difference..


I've asked for a: `convert -list format` output from the lts machine to 
compare it against my own; as well as a `convert -list configure`


Tried to do an strace to see what I could see.. but strace doesn't work 
on amd64..


So can someone offer *something* that I could start to look at or use to 
look at what is causing this to happen? Otherwise it is looking like I 
will be loosing a perfectly good FreeBSD machine to an Ubuntu one.. *sniff*


Thanks in advance.
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

panic while using gdb amd64 freebsd7.2

[Agarwal, Mayank]

Hi,

 

I have looked at archives but with no output.

 

I am running freebsd7.2 amd64 as a virtual machine(VM) in vmware ESX
server. I have configured remote gdb to debug the kernel modules. My
problem is that whenever the breakpoint is hit and the I issue next or
step kernel panics with "double fault" error. This configuration was
working for 32-bit machine very well. I am trying to debug the tmpfs
module.

 

Panic message on console is:

 

Fatal double fault

rip = 0x80552be1

rsp = 0x006f5000

rbp = 0x006f5000

cpuid = 0; apic id = 00

panic: double fault

cpuid = 0

Uptime: 1h16m8s

Physical memory: 4555 MB

Dumping 207 MB: 192 176 160 144 128 112 96 80 64 48 32 16

Dump complete

 

 

I tried searching this problem on google also but with no help.

 

Any help will be appreciated.

 

Thanks,

Mayank

 

 

 

 

___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: Booting from firmware RAID

[Ilya Kazakevich]

Thank you.

I configured boot0 to my ar0 and tried to boot from it. It freezes.
I use RAID10 and Intel-ICH7.

Looks like I've faced with some other troubles..

Ilya.

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 4:05 PM, mcoyles
wrote:

> >This is probably more PC-specific than freebsd-specific question. I have
> >intel firmware raid. OS needs drivers to work with it. FreeBSD sees it as
> >ar0, so it has drivers.
> >But I want my OS to be installed on this drive and boot from it. It is not
> >good idea, but I really want to do it:)
> >Is it possible?
> >
> >boot0 and boot1 both work with HDD via BIOS interrupts and CHS, right? So,
> >how do they know how to access RAID? They has no drivers.
> >Or BIOS supports interrupts to access RAID with out of drivers? If so --
> >what for drivers are needed? To access drive via ATA interface?
>
> Bios support interrupts and can thus boot from firmware raid.
> Under windows drivers typically just give you full speed / management
> features
>
> -
> Marci
>
>
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Updating OpenSSH

[Carmel]

I was just wondering about the version of SSH used on FreeBSD.

According to the OpenSSH page:

OpenSSH 5.8/5.8p1 released February 4, 2011 [contains security fix]

Now, according to my system, FreeBSD-8.2, I have this version:

OpenSSH_5.4p1 FreeBSD-20100308, OpenSSL 0.9.8q 2 Dec 2010

# openssl version
OpenSSL 1.0.0d 8 Feb 2011

So why is an older version shown? Also, when does the FreeBSD
team intend to update the system OpenSSH version?

I have the following notation in my /etc/make.conf file:

WITH_OPENSSL_PORT=yes

Should I have something else also? I have FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE installed.

-- 
Carmel
carmel...@hotmail.com
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: Booting from firmware RAID

[b. f.]

> This is probably more PC-specific than freebsd-specific question. I have
> intel firmware raid. OS needs drivers to work with it. FreeBSD sees it as
> ar0, so it has drivers.
> But I want my OS to be installed on this drive and boot from it. It is not
> good idea, but I really want to do it:)
> Is it possible?
>
> boot0 and boot1 both work with HDD via BIOS interrupts and CHS, right? So,
> how do they know how to access RAID? They has no drivers.
> Or BIOS supports interrupts to access RAID with out of drivers? If so --
> what for drivers are needed? To access drive via ATA interface?
>
> Is it possible to boot freebsd from "firmware raid"?

Sometimes: it depends on the firmware, and your bios.  I had a add-in
PCIe SATA RAID controller based on a Marvell SE9128 chipset, and using
a Marvell firmware.  The bios and the FreeBSD 9-CURRENT bootloader
were able to boot from a JBOD drive attached to the controller, up
until the point where the ahci driver tried to take control of the
drive.  Then the Marvell firmware presented a fictitious configuration
to the ahci driver and returned invalid device signatures, so the boot
process failed.  On the same machine, however, I was able to boot
without problems from a JBOD drive attached to a PCI-X SATA RAID
controller based on the Silicon Image SiI3124 chipset, using a Silicon
Image firmware.

b.
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: Updating OpenSSH

[Matthew Seaman]

On 16/03/2011 13:38, Carmel wrote:
> I was just wondering about the version of SSH used on FreeBSD.
> 
> According to the OpenSSH page:
> 
> OpenSSH 5.8/5.8p1 released February 4, 2011 [contains security fix]
> 
> Now, according to my system, FreeBSD-8.2, I have this version:
> 
> OpenSSH_5.4p1 FreeBSD-20100308, OpenSSL 0.9.8q 2 Dec 2010
> 
> # openssl version
> OpenSSL 1.0.0d 8 Feb 2011
> 
> So why is an older version shown? Also, when does the FreeBSD
> team intend to update the system OpenSSH version?
> 
> I have the following notation in my /etc/make.conf file:
> 
>   WITH_OPENSSL_PORT=yes
> 
> Should I have something else also? I have FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE installed.
> 

The version of OpenSSH shipped with any release of the OS is exceedingly
unlikely to be updated within the lifetime of that release.  Not unless
there was a killer problem, and it turned out easier to update the whole
shebang rather than just patching the problem.

Why wasn't OpenSSH updated in stable/8 before 8.2-RELEASE? Good
question.  I don't actually know.  It's quite possible that no one had
sufficient spare cycles to do the work required, and that the changes
between 5.4 and 5.8 were not sufficiently compelling for anyone to make
the time.

As for security vulnerabilities: did you check on the OpenSSH site?  The
vulnerability fixed in 5.8 (information leak in signed SSH keys) only
applies to versions 5.6 and 5.7 -- that's because the whole 'signed key'
thing isn't in version 5.4 at all.

I can tell you that the FreeBSD Security Team is extremely efficient and
would have had patches and security advisories out for this problem
within a matter of hours of the OpenSSH announcement *if it had been
relevant*.

Cheers,

Matthew

-- 
Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil.   7 Priory Courtyard
  Flat 3
PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate
JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk   Kent, CT11 9PW



signature.asc
Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: android phone -pc-ineternet

[Mark Felder]

On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 02:48:45 -0500, Da Rock  
 wrote:


IF I understand you correctly here, you need to configure the wifi  
connection on your phone, and have a wifi access point available. Else-  
see above...



No, he's referring to wired tethering over USB. This is the preferred way  
of tethering to your phone because it doesn't drain your battery or start  
your phone on fire :)


I've not had success with it on FreeBSD but I must admit I haven't put  
much effort into it.



Regards,


Mark
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

bind 98 make fails

[Len Conrad]

FreeBSD 8.2 i386  

kern dev distribution

as 42-bit VM on host ESXi 4.1

portsnap fetch extract

cd /usr/ports/dns/bind98

make

Options for bind98 9.8.0   |
| 
++ |
[X] SSL Building without OpenSSL removes DNSSEC | |
[X] LINKS   Create conf file symlinks in /usr/local | |
[X] XML Support for xml statistics output   | |
[X] IDN Add IDN support to dig, host, etc.  | |
[X] REPLACE_BASEReplace base BIND with this version | |
[ ] LARGE_FILE  64-bit file support | |
[X] SIGCHASEdig/host/nslookup will do DNSSEC validation | |
[X] IPV6IPv6 Support (autodetected by default)  | |
[X] THREADS Compile with thread support | |
[ ] DLZ_POSTGRESQL  DLZ Postgres driver | |
[ ] DLZ_MYSQL   DLZ MySQL driver (single-threaded BIND) | |
[ ] DLZ_BDB DLZ BDB driver  | |
[ ] DLZ_LDAPDLZ LDAP driver | |
[ ] DLZ_FILESYSTEM  DLZ filesystem driver   | |
[ ] DLZ_STUBDLZ stub driver 

make: don't know how to make /usr/ports/dns/bind98

/work/.build_done.bind98._usr_local. Stop
*** Error code 2

thanks
Len

___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: HAL must die!

[Chip Camden]

Quoth Robert Huff on Wednesday, 16 March 2011:
> Erich Dollansky writes:
> 
> >  > The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to
> >  > choose from.
> >  
> >  when it comes to screwing, we use - at least outside the USA -
> >  metric screws. M3, M4 ... M10 ... 
> >  
> >  We do not care much who manufactured them.
> >  
> >  The software industry is still far away from this.
> 
>   ... in part, because the definition of a "screw" is not yet
> fixed.
> 

Microsoft seems to understand the definition of "screw" well enough for
its own purposes.  The rest of us just don't like being on the receiving
end of it.

-- 
Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F
http://chipsquips.com  | http://camdensoftware.com   | http://chipstips.com


pgpngAATFdmh3.pgp
Description: PGP signature

Re: HAL must die!

[Chip Camden]

Quoth Jerry on Wednesday, 16 March 2011:
> On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 06:29:25 +
> Matthew Seaman  articulated:
> 
> > On 16/03/2011 00:37, Jerry wrote:
> > > Microsoft has approximately 90% of the desktop market share with
> > > everyone else dividing up the remainder. If you are on a Microsoft
> > > platform you use their products. The same applies to other platforms
> > > and their utilities.
> > 
> > Microsoft may once have had 90% of the desktop market -- but is that
> > still true?  Macs seem to be everywhere nowadays.
> > 
> > Also, how important is 'desktop' nowadays, compared to mobile browsers
> > and the like?  If the iPhone doesn't support Flash, then anyone with
> > any sense is going to provide an HTML5 alternative.
> 
> There are numerous sites with purport to state the latest statistics
> on OS usage, etc. This is just one that I have used before. I obviously
> cannot verify its accuracy. As far as I can tell, it is an impartial
> assessment.
> 
> http://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=8
> 

That's interesting and all, but what does such a sampling really tell you?
By contrast, if I look at Google Analytics for the OS makeup of visitors
to chipstips.com, I get only 50% Windows, 44% Mac, 5% Linux, and 1%
Android.  (I'm not sure where *BSD gets classified in that scheme).

So the number you pay attention to is the number that applies to what
you're trying to find out.  If you're looking at trends for investment,
then you need to look at growth/shrinkage rather than fixed market share.
If you're wondering how you should target your applications, then look at
usage (and growth) within your target user base (which may or may not
include home or small business users, for example).  How you obtain those
numbers has to vary depending.

I don't have hard data to back it up, but it seems to me that an awful
lot of Windows users are such merely due to inertia.  More
technologically inclined users (a growing segment) tend (but not
exclusively) to prefer other platforms.  At least, that's what I'm seeing
among my clients, readers, and associates.

-- 
Sterling (Chip) Camden | sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F
http://chipsquips.com  | http://camdensoftware.com   | http://chipstips.com


pgp101daqce38.pgp
Description: PGP signature

Re: HAL must die!

[Chad Perrin]

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 09:25:59AM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> On Wednesday 16 March 2011 07:37:53 Jerry wrote:
> >
> > Now, as far as HAL goes, the fragmented open-source community cannot
> > even begin to agree on its replacement. Every distro is busy trying to
> 
> It looks like a bunch of little Napoleons.

. . . just like the plethora of warring closed "standards" produced by
closed source software vendors.  It's an epidemic, really.

I believe that a major factor in determining the practical
standardization of a policy or design, as measured in widespread adoption
and portability, is the lack of restrictions in how it is implemented,
used, distributed, et cetera, aside from the basic definition of what is
compatible with the standard.  This means that EULAs, copyleft licenses,
patents, and other restrictions on use and deployment tend to kill
widespread adoption as a practical "standard", especially when there is
no singly market-dominating corporation leading the charge for adoption.

-- 
Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]


pgpnjN5NgQ0cT.pgp
Description: PGP signature

Re: HAL must die!

[Chad Perrin]

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 07:30:45AM -0400, Jerry wrote:
> 
> There are numerous sites with purport to state the latest statistics on
> OS usage, etc. This is just one that I have used before. I obviously
> cannot verify its accuracy. As far as I can tell, it is an impartial
> assessment.

Just keep in mind that it doesn't hve to be partial to be wrong, of
course.  Data gathering for things like this is notoriously subject to
selection biases and other obscuring factors.  For instance, a surprising
number of people set their browser user agent strings to non-default
values to deal with Websites that refuse to display for anything but IE
versions greater than or equal to 5.0, and business-oriented market share
figures usually count only unit sales (which excludes free stuff and
doesn't discount cases where people throw it away right away).
Statistical analysis is not nearly as easy to get right as people usually
think it is (including most statisticians).


> 
> In an interesting side note, another article that I read recently and
> am trying to locate at this moment states that 50% of users who
> switched to MAC from Windows in the last 5 years are now seriously
> considering dumping it and moving to a Windows 7 machine. Their biggest
> complain was with the added complexity of doing routine tasks. A lack
> of job specific software was also mentioned. Exactly what that entails
> I have no idea. Apparently, keyboard users found Windows easier to use
> and maneuver. I am a mouse person myself so I would not be able to
> comment on that even if I used a MAC.

. . . and yet, a majority of those people would probably extol the
virtues of the mouse if I introduced them to vi.  Funny how that works.


> 
> In any case, the subject declaring "HAL must die" if no longer
> relevant. It is all ready dead, except on FreeBSD. Even its author has
> declared it so. The real question is how long are the developers of the
> fragmented open-source community going to continue to display
> testosterone poisoning by refusing to come together and develop one
> common interface/API or whatever they want to declare it to be that
> works on all the competing distros and thereby helps to unite the
> open-source community? The sad part is even if that did happen, each
> distro would then refuse to use it because it was not licensed
> according to their own specifications. Yes indeed, you have to love
> standards, there are so many of them.

Especially for security software and stuff meant to act as a de facto
portable standard, people need to learn to grow up and release things
under copyfree licenses so everybody can use them.  Trying to push a
"standard" under a restrictive license is the height of irrationality.

-- 
Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]


pgpEhiSQGDh8C.pgp
Description: PGP signature

Re: Backtick versus $()

[Andres Perera]

Dear Sir/Madam,

>
Your email was unable reach the intended person that you were sending it to.

> For more information on our business please click on the following link:

> Click here for our website 

> We look forward to your continued business in the future.

>
Regards,

Webmaster
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: Booting from firmware RAID

[Ilya Kazakevich]

My boot0 freezes. I found discussion where guy told that extipl works fine
but boot0 not because extipl uses LBA instead of CHS and some raids do not
support CHS.
It is new to me that BIOS allows LBA but I will try extipl now.

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 5:11 PM, b. f.  wrote:

> > This is probably more PC-specific than freebsd-specific question. I have
> > intel firmware raid. OS needs drivers to work with it. FreeBSD sees it as
> > ar0, so it has drivers.
> > But I want my OS to be installed on this drive and boot from it. It is
> not
> > good idea, but I really want to do it:)
> > Is it possible?
> >
> > boot0 and boot1 both work with HDD via BIOS interrupts and CHS, right?
> So,
> > how do they know how to access RAID? They has no drivers.
> > Or BIOS supports interrupts to access RAID with out of drivers? If so --
> > what for drivers are needed? To access drive via ATA interface?
> >
> > Is it possible to boot freebsd from "firmware raid"?
>
> Sometimes: it depends on the firmware, and your bios.  I had a add-in
> PCIe SATA RAID controller based on a Marvell SE9128 chipset, and using
> a Marvell firmware.  The bios and the FreeBSD 9-CURRENT bootloader
> were able to boot from a JBOD drive attached to the controller, up
> until the point where the ahci driver tried to take control of the
> drive.  Then the Marvell firmware presented a fictitious configuration
> to the ahci driver and returned invalid device signatures, so the boot
> process failed.  On the same machine, however, I was able to boot
> without problems from a JBOD drive attached to a PCI-X SATA RAID
> controller based on the Silicon Image SiI3124 chipset, using a Silicon
> Image firmware.
>
> b.
>
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: HAL must die!

[David Brodbeck]

On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Chad Perrin  wrote:
> The largest possible paying audience is generally everybody capable of
> using an open standard.

Since we're talking about video, though, it's worth noting that there
don't appear to *be* any truly open video compression standards.
They're *all* patent-encumbered.  Google tried with VP8, but it looks
like that may infringe patents as well.  (It hasn't been settled in
court, so it's hard to be sure, but some competitors are making
rumblings about suing over it.)
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: HAL must die!

[Chad Perrin]

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 11:12:09AM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Chad Perrin  wrote:
> > The largest possible paying audience is generally everybody capable of
> > using an open standard.
> 
> Since we're talking about video, though, it's worth noting that there
> don't appear to *be* any truly open video compression standards.
> They're *all* patent-encumbered.  Google tried with VP8, but it looks
> like that may infringe patents as well.  (It hasn't been settled in
> court, so it's hard to be sure, but some competitors are making
> rumblings about suing over it.)

It's certainly true that video is a bit of a "sticky widget" with regard
to open standards.  The moment someone develops something that is
verifiably free of patent encumbrances for video and doesn't just *suck*,
I expect that either it will achieve escape velocity in mere moments to
become the most widely deployed type of video in the world, or the guy
who created it will die under mysterious circumstances and his heirs will
somehow arrange to dummy up a patent application in his name with the
help of whoever's going to buy the patent from those heirs.

-- 
Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]


pgpa7kOGkl6mP.pgp
Description: PGP signature

Re: Updating OpenSSH

[Carmel]

On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 14:35:09 +
Matthew Seaman  articulated:

> On 16/03/2011 13:38, Carmel wrote:
> > I was just wondering about the version of SSH used on FreeBSD.
> > 
> > According to the OpenSSH page:
> > 
> > OpenSSH 5.8/5.8p1 released February 4, 2011 [contains security fix]
> > 
> > Now, according to my system, FreeBSD-8.2, I have this version:
> > 
> > OpenSSH_5.4p1 FreeBSD-20100308, OpenSSL 0.9.8q 2 Dec 2010
> > 
> > # openssl version
> > OpenSSL 1.0.0d 8 Feb 2011
> > 
> > So why is an older version shown? Also, when does the FreeBSD
> > team intend to update the system OpenSSH version?
> > 
> > I have the following notation in my /etc/make.conf file:
> > 
> > WITH_OPENSSL_PORT=yes
> > 
> > Should I have something else also? I have FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE
> > installed.
> > 
> 
> The version of OpenSSH shipped with any release of the OS is
> exceedingly unlikely to be updated within the lifetime of that
> release.  Not unless there was a killer problem, and it turned out
> easier to update the whole shebang rather than just patching the
> problem.
> 
> Why wasn't OpenSSH updated in stable/8 before 8.2-RELEASE? Good
> question.  I don't actually know.  It's quite possible that no one had
> sufficient spare cycles to do the work required, and that the changes
> between 5.4 and 5.8 were not sufficiently compelling for anyone to
> make the time.

OK, then does that mean that the latest version will be used in the
still not released 9 version of FreeBSD?

> As for security vulnerabilities: did you check on the OpenSSH site?
> The vulnerability fixed in 5.8 (information leak in signed SSH keys)
> only applies to versions 5.6 and 5.7 -- that's because the whole
> 'signed key' thing isn't in version 5.4 at all.

No, all I did was check for the current version.

> I can tell you that the FreeBSD Security Team is extremely efficient
> and would have had patches and security advisories out for this
> problem within a matter of hours of the OpenSSH announcement *if it
> had been relevant*.

-- 
Carmel
carmel...@hotmail.com

___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: Updating OpenSSH

[Chuck Swiger]

On Mar 16, 2011, at 11:24 AM, Carmel wrote:
> OK, then does that mean that the latest version will be used in the
> still not released 9 version of FreeBSD?

Currently, no-- TRUNK has:

  http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/src/crypto/openssh/version.h

Revision 1.41: download - view: text, markup, annotated - select for diffs
Thu Nov 11 11:46:19 2010 UTC (4 months ago) by des
Branches: MAIN
CVS tags: HEAD
Diff to: previous 1.40: preferred, colored
Changes since revision 1.40: +3 -3 lines
SVN rev 215116 on 2010-11-11 11:46:19Z by des

Upgrade to OpenSSH 5.6p1.

Regards,
-- 
-Chuck

___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: Upgrading FreeBSd when using a zfs-only installation?

[Randal L. Schwartz]

> "Randal" == Randal L Schwartz  writes:

Randal> OK, so I'll appeal to the rest of freebsd-questions, since you can't
Randal> answer with authority:

Randal> can you upgrade from 8.1 to 8.2 using freebsd-update booting from
Randal> ZFS as described at http://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/GPTZFSBoot/,
Randal> without having to go through the chicanry described at
Randal> http://forums.freebsd.org/showpost.php?p=94557&postcount=19 - or is
Randal> there an updated version of that post, or should that post be
Randal> literally followed?

Randal> SOMEONE here knows.  Please help.

So, nobody knows?

Most of the other answers were about a source-code upgrade, not a
binary upgrade.

-- 
Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095
 http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/>
Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc.
See http://methodsandmessages.posterous.com/ for Smalltalk discussion
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: HAL must die!

[David Brodbeck]

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Chad Perrin  wrote:
> It's certainly true that video is a bit of a "sticky widget" with regard
> to open standards.  The moment someone develops something that is
> verifiably free of patent encumbrances for video and doesn't just *suck*,
> I expect that either it will achieve escape velocity in mere moments to
> become the most widely deployed type of video in the world, or the guy
> who created it will die under mysterious circumstances and his heirs will
> somehow arrange to dummy up a patent application in his name with the
> help of whoever's going to buy the patent from those heirs.

The problem is it'd have to be someone who's unemployed. ;)  Any
software company is going to want to patent something that valuable;
they'd be failing their shareholders if they didn't.

We may just have to wait for the patents to expire on some older but
still viable codecs, much like eventually happened with GIF.
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: FreeBSD CURRENT custom ISO install image: howto?

[O. Hartmann]

On 03/16/11 19:10, Al Plant wrote:

O. Hartmann wrote:

I'm desperately looking for howto creating my own FreeBSD
9.0-CURRENT/amd64 custom installation DVD. Google delivers a lot of
outdated stuff and I wasn't able to find some hints in the handbook,
so maybe one here can help.

I've already all sources via 'svn' (no CVS) on the local box. The
intention is to be able to use new bsdinstall instead of sysinstall
for having GPT partitions.

Please set me CC if responding.

Thanks in advance,
Oliver
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to
"freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"


Aloha Oliver,

On the list is Manolis Kiagias. He makes install disks possible.

I also copied him on this reply. He helped me with making an install
disk for my projects and he can most likely point you to his how to
methods.



Hello out there.
Thank you very much.
The last time I tried making a install media from a local installation 
is quite a lot of years since. I found " man release(7)" very helpful, 
but at the end it turns out that I didn't understood what is happening.


I tried to fullfill all prerequisites needed to make a release, i.e.

1) having a populated /usr/src (SVN managed), I recently made a 'make 
buildworld', I created  a suitable release-folder to chroot to for the 
release and I issued MAKE_DVD=yes and MAKE_ISOS=yes to ensure the build 
of ISO images for a DVD. I'll show the command issued at the end.


But the build-process seems to drop everything it builds into 
/usr/src/release (from where the commande 'make release' has to be 
issued as docuemnted in 'release (7)'.


Here's the command:

Folders /home/release and /usr/src exists, 'make buildworld' has been 
issued and successfully finished. The following commands are issued 
regarding the release (7) manpage:


cd /usr/src/release
make release SVNROOT=/usr/src NODOC=yes MAKE_DVD=yes MAKE_ISOS=yes\ 
CHROOTDIR=/home/release BUILDNAME=SOMETHING_NEW


I do not ommit TARGET_ARCH and TARGET since I do not crossbuild (I'm on 
amd64).
The outcome is that the make-release process seems to flood 
/usr/src/release as it never 'chroot' to the given CHROOTDIR. I'm not 
familiar with this and I exepct this to be a kind of mistake. Correct me 
if I'm wrong.


Regards,
Oliver
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: Updating OpenSSH

[Carmel]

On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 11:32:48 -0700
Chuck Swiger  articulated:

> On Mar 16, 2011, at 11:24 AM, Carmel wrote:
> > OK, then does that mean that the latest version will be used in the
> > still not released 9 version of FreeBSD?
> 
> Currently, no-- TRUNK has:
> 
>   
> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/src/crypto/openssh/version.h
> 
> Revision 1.41: download - view: text, markup, annotated - select for
> diffs Thu Nov 11 11:46:19 2010 UTC (4 months ago) by des
> Branches: MAIN
> CVS tags: HEAD
> Diff to: previous 1.40: preferred, colored
> Changes since revision 1.40: +3 -3 lines
> SVN rev 215116 on 2010-11-11 11:46:19Z by des
> 
> Upgrade to OpenSSH 5.6p1.

Out of some sort of morbid curiosity, why would the FreeBSD developers
not update to the latest version? It appears to be stable and I have not
seen anything to state otherwise. There are apparently, (obviously)
differences between the latest and the version presently used in
FreeBSD and I assume the proposed one for the 9.x branch. Mathew
alluded to that. In any case, since 9.x is not due out for a while, it
would appear to me me anyways that now would be a good time to consider
making the switch.

Just my 2¢.

-- 
Carmel
carmel...@hotmail.com

The latest toy has just hit the shops - a talking Muslim doll. Nobody
knows what the hell it says because no one's got the balls to pull the
cord.
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: Upgrading FreeBSd when using a zfs-only installation?

[Daniel Staal]

On Wed, March 16, 2011 2:36 pm, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
>
> Randal> SOMEONE here knows.  Please help.
>
> So, nobody knows?
>
> Most of the other answers were about a source-code upgrade, not a binary
>  upgrade.

I thought Matthew Seamans' answer sounded pretty definitive:

> A system update via freebsd-update or otherwise won't touch whatever
> bootblocks you have installed.  So if you have already installed
> gptzfsboot and your system already boots ZFS v12 then it will continue to
>  boot ZFS v12 without your touching anything to do with boot blocks.
>
> However, with the 8.1 -> 8.2 upgrade, you get (inter-alia) ZFS v13
> support (I think it's v13 -- all my personal kit is running the stable/8
>  v28 patchset...) plus equivalent zpool version bump.  The 8.1 bootblocks
>  don't understand ZFS v13.  If you wish to update the on-disk formats of
>  your ZFS stuff: 'zpool upgrade -a' or 'zfs upgrade -a' then you *will*
>  need to reinstall the gptzfsboot boot-blocks.
>
> You don't have to update the ZFS formats, but you'll miss out on various
>  performance and bug-fixes if you don't.
>
> Given that the gptzfsboot boot blocks are backwards compatible to older
> ZFS versions, highly recommended to update the boot blocks even if you
> aren't intending to upgrade the ZFS bits just yet.  Just as an
> anti-foot-shooting measure.

By that: You don't _have_ to do anything.  But it is probably a good idea.

Daniel T. Staal

---
This email copyright the author.  Unless otherwise noted, you
are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use
the contents for non-commercial purposes.  This copyright will
expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years,
whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of
local copyright law.
---

___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

postfix / windows live mail problems (possibly OT)

[Mark Moellering]

I recently set up a postfix mail server on freebsd 8.1 with dovecot.  I 
am having trouble sending mail using Windows Live Mail.

The error I see in the logfiles is:
Mar 16 13:13:57 mail postfix/smtpd[5159]: connect from 
c-68-40-255-141.hsd1.mi.comcast.net[68.40.255.141]
Mar 16 13:13:57 mail postfix/smtpd[5159]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from 
c-68-40-255-141.hsd1.mi.comcast.net[68.40.255.141]: 554 5.7.1 
: Relay access denied; from= 
to= proto=ESMTP helo=
Mar 16 13:13:57 mail postfix/smtpd[5159]: disconnect from 
c-68-40-255-141.hsd1.mi.comcast.net[68.40.255.141]


The error Windows Live displays is:

Server Error: 554
Server Response: 554 5.7.1 : Relay access denied
Server: 'mail..com'
Windows Live Mail Error ID: 0x800CCC79
Protocol: SMTP
Port: 587
Secure(SSL): No

If anyone can point me to a better list or otherwise help out, it would 
be greatly appreciated.  Naturally, Thunderbird and KDE-Mail work fine...


Mark Moellering
Class-Creator . com
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: android phone -pc-ineternet

[ajtiM]

On Wednesday March 16 2011 09:39:11 Mark Felder wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 02:48:45 -0500, Da Rock
> 
>  wrote:
> > IF I understand you correctly here, you need to configure the wifi
> > connection on your phone, and have a wifi access point available. Else-
> > see above...
> 
> No, he's referring to wired tethering over USB. This is the preferred way
> of tethering to your phone because it doesn't drain your battery or start
> your phone on fire :)
> 
> I've not had success with it on FreeBSD but I must admit I haven't put
> much effort into it.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> Mark
> ___
> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
> To unsubscribe, send any mail to
> "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

I want to connect a phone with usb to PC and use Internet through PC.
At work Itried on MAC compuer and it easy but onn FreeBSD I don't know how.
I don't have wirelless at home and I like to use wired...
 
Mitja

http://jpgmag.com/people/lumiwa
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: postfix / windows live mail problems (possibly OT)

[Ilya Kazakevich]

Your postfix does not relay mails from this client.
See http://www.postfix.org/SMTPD_ACCESS_README.html

I suggest you to remove
your IPs from messages next time. By the way, postfix should have its own
mail-list, not freebsd:)

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 11:35 PM, Mark Moellering  wrote:

> I recently set up a postfix mail server on freebsd 8.1 with dovecot.  I am
> having trouble sending mail using Windows Live Mail.
> The error I see in the logfiles is:
> Mar 16 13:13:57 mail postfix/smtpd[5159]: connect from
> c-68-40-255-141.hsd1.mi.comcast.net[68.40.255.141]
> Mar 16 13:13:57 mail postfix/smtpd[5159]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from
> c-68-40-255-141.hsd1.mi.comcast.net[68.40.255.141]: 554 5.7.1 <
> m...@.com>: Relay access denied; from= to=<
> m...@.com> proto=ESMTP helo=
> Mar 16 13:13:57 mail postfix/smtpd[5159]: disconnect from
> c-68-40-255-141.hsd1.mi.comcast.net[68.40.255.141]
>
> The error Windows Live displays is:
>
> Server Error: 554
> Server Response: 554 5.7.1 : Relay access denied
> Server: 'mail..com'
> Windows Live Mail Error ID: 0x800CCC79
> Protocol: SMTP
> Port: 587
> Secure(SSL): No
>
> If anyone can point me to a better list or otherwise help out, it would be
> greatly appreciated.  Naturally, Thunderbird and KDE-Mail work fine...
>
> Mark Moellering
> Class-Creator . com
> ___
> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "
> freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
>
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: Upgrading FreeBSd when using a zfs-only installation?

[Randal L. Schwartz]

> "Daniel" == Daniel Staal  writes:

Daniel> On Wed, March 16, 2011 2:36 pm, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
>> 
Randal> SOMEONE here knows.  Please help.
>> 
>> So, nobody knows?
>> 
>> Most of the other answers were about a source-code upgrade, not a binary
>> upgrade.

Daniel> I thought Matthew Seamans' answer sounded pretty definitive:

>> A system update via freebsd-update or otherwise won't touch whatever
>> bootblocks you have installed.  So if you have already installed
>> gptzfsboot and your system already boots ZFS v12 then it will continue to
>> boot ZFS v12 without your touching anything to do with boot blocks.

But this was absolutely *not* the case with 8.0 to 8.1.  I had tried it
naively in a VM, and thank goodness, because the VM failed to boot.

Then I googled, and found
http://forums.freebsd.org/showpost.php?p=94557&postcount=19 which when I
followed, and it worked fine.

Thus, when I did my "live" 8.0 to 8.1 upgrades, I followed that extra
"gpart bootcode" step, and everything worked fine.

Therefore, Matthew Seaman can't be trusted with his answer.  He
apparently did not boot a ZFS-on-root disk with a freebsd-update from
8.0 to 8.1, or he would not have said what he did.

The question I have is, does anyone know *definitively* if the same
thing that broke 8.0 to 8.1 will also likely occur in 8.1 to 8.2, or
does the bootloader in 8.2 now contain what /boot/gptzfsboot contained
in 8.1? As in, does FreeBSD 8.2 now support *native* ZFS booting, or
will it forever be a kluge?

-- 
Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095
 http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/>
Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc.
See http://methodsandmessages.posterous.com/ for Smalltalk discussion
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: postfix / windows live mail problems (possibly OT)

[Mark Moellering]

My apologies, I could not find the postfix mailing list initially.  (it 
has been a "Deal with Microsoft software" day...)

I have now found the proper list,
Thank You

On 16-Mar-11 5:15 PM, Ilya Kazakevich wrote:

Your postfix does not relay mails from this client.
See http://www.postfix.org/SMTPD_ACCESS_README.html

I suggest you to remove your IPs from messages next time. By the way, 
postfix should have its own mail-list, not freebsd:)


On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 11:35 PM, Mark Moellering > wrote:


I recently set up a postfix mail server on freebsd 8.1 with
dovecot.  I am having trouble sending mail using Windows Live Mail.
The error I see in the logfiles is:
Mar 16 13:13:57 mail postfix/smtpd[5159]: connect from
c-68-40-255-141.hsd1.mi.comcast.net
[68.40.255.141]
Mar 16 13:13:57 mail postfix/smtpd[5159]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT
from c-68-40-255-141.hsd1.mi.comcast.net
[68.40.255.141]: 554
5.7.1 mailto:m...@.com>>: Relay access denied;
from=mailto:b...@.com>> to=mailto:m...@.com>> proto=ESMTP helo=
Mar 16 13:13:57 mail postfix/smtpd[5159]: disconnect from
c-68-40-255-141.hsd1.mi.comcast.net
[68.40.255.141]

The error Windows Live displays is:

Server Error: 554
Server Response: 554 5.7.1 mailto:m...@.com>>:
Relay access denied
Server: 'mail..com '
Windows Live Mail Error ID: 0x800CCC79
Protocol: SMTP
Port: 587
Secure(SSL): No

If anyone can point me to a better list or otherwise help out, it
would be greatly appreciated.  Naturally, Thunderbird and KDE-Mail
work fine...

Mark Moellering
Class-Creator . com
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to
"freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
"




___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: postfix / windows live mail problems (possibly OT)

[Jerry]

On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 17:48:36 -0400
Mark Moellering  articulated:

> My apologies, I could not find the postfix mailing list initially.
> (it has been a "Deal with Microsoft software" day...)
> I have now found the proper list,
> Thank You

Before posting to the Postfix list, follow the directions on the
Postfix debug page: . In
addition, lose the "Top Posting" technique. I can assure you it will
not be appreciated there.

Specifically:

Reporting problems to postfix-us...@postfix.org

The people who participate on postfix-us...@postfix.org are very
helpful, especially if YOU provide them with sufficient information.
Remember, these volunteers are willing to help, but their time is
limited.

When reporting a problem, be sure to include the following information.

A summary of the problem. Please do not just send some logging without
explanation of what YOU believe is wrong.

Complete error messages. Please use cut-and-paste, or use attachments,
instead of reciting information from memory.

Output from "postconf -n". Please do not send your main.cf file, or
500+ lines of postconf output.

Better, provide output from the postfinger tool. This can be found at
http://ftp.wl0.org/SOURCES/postfinger.

If the problem is SASL related, consider including the output from the
saslfinger tool. This can be found at
http://postfix.state-of-mind.de/patrick.koetter/saslfinger/.

I use Windows Live Mail via Postfix all the time. I know it works quite well. 
You
probably do not have SASL or some other simple thing configured
incorrectly. This is not a Windows Live Mail problem.

-- 
Jerry ✌
freebsd.u...@seibercom.net

Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored.
Please do not ignore the Reply-To header.
__

The latest toy has just hit the shops - a talking Muslim doll. Nobody
knows what the hell it says because no one's got the balls to pull the
cord.
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: Upgrading FreeBSd when using a zfs-only installation?

[Matthew Seaman]

On 16/03/2011 21:44, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
> Therefore, Matthew Seaman can't be trusted with his answer.  He
> apparently did not boot a ZFS-on-root disk with a freebsd-update from
> 8.0 to 8.1, or he would not have said what he did.

Gee.  Thanks.

I suggest you try out your update in a VM then, because I doubt anyone
will produce an answer definitive enough for you.

Cheers,

Matthew

-- 
Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil.   7 Priory Courtyard
  Flat 3
PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate
JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk   Kent, CT11 9PW



signature.asc
Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Upgrading FreeBSd when using a zfs-only installation?

[Randal L. Schwartz]

> "Matthew" == Matthew Seaman  writes:

Matthew> Gee.  Thanks.

Well, either you're not describing your actual experience, or I've
misunderstood.  I'm open to input.  Are you trying to tell me that you
were able to go from 8.0 to 8.1, using freebsd-update, with a
ZFS-on-root boot?  Or were you just saying "well, it *should* work",
because it my experience it didn't.

Matthew> I suggest you try out your update in a VM then, because I doubt anyone
Matthew> will produce an answer definitive enough for you.

Sure they can.  I want someone who actually hacks the ZFS boot code to
help me out.  How do I reach them?  Is ZFS a first-class FS now in the
binary builds, or not?

-- 
Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095
 http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/>
Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc.
See http://methodsandmessages.posterous.com/ for Smalltalk discussion
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: android phone -pc-ineternet

[Da Rock]

On 03/17/11 00:39, Mark Felder wrote:
On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 02:48:45 -0500, Da Rock 
 wrote:


IF I understand you correctly here, you need to configure the wifi 
connection on your phone, and have a wifi access point available. 
Else- see above...



No, he's referring to wired tethering over USB. This is the preferred 
way of tethering to your phone because it doesn't drain your battery 
or start your phone on fire :)


I've not had success with it on FreeBSD but I must admit I haven't put 
much effort into it.


Me either. Another project for me to do in the near future. Although my 
new phone has 2.2 so I have a hotspot now... doesn't help the missus who 
really needs it though :(


As for the OP- we still need clarification.
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: android phone -pc-ineternet

[Da Rock]

On 03/17/11 07:04, ajtiM wrote:

On Wednesday March 16 2011 09:39:11 Mark Felder wrote:
   

On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 02:48:45 -0500, Da Rock

  wrote:
 

IF I understand you correctly here, you need to configure the wifi
connection on your phone, and have a wifi access point available. Else-
see above...
   

No, he's referring to wired tethering over USB. This is the preferred way
of tethering to your phone because it doesn't drain your battery or start
your phone on fire :)

I've not had success with it on FreeBSD but I must admit I haven't put
much effort into it.


Regards,


Mark
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to
"freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
 

I want to connect a phone with usb to PC and use Internet through PC.
At work Itried on MAC compuer and it easy but onn FreeBSD I don't know how.
I don't have wirelless at home and I like to use wired...
   
To do so you'd have to have a rooted Android system to change the 
routing. They're not designed to operate like that.


As for the driver- I posted before that its a project to do...

BTW can anyone confirm 8.3 release date and driver support for iPhone 
and/or Android? Although I'm reasonably sure iPhone uses a very 
different method than Android from my research.

___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: HAL must die!

[Da Rock]

On 03/17/11 04:38, David Brodbeck wrote:

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Chad Perrin  wrote:
   

It's certainly true that video is a bit of a "sticky widget" with regard
to open standards.  The moment someone develops something that is
verifiably free of patent encumbrances for video and doesn't just *suck*,
I expect that either it will achieve escape velocity in mere moments to
become the most widely deployed type of video in the world, or the guy
who created it will die under mysterious circumstances and his heirs will
somehow arrange to dummy up a patent application in his name with the
help of whoever's going to buy the patent from those heirs.
 

The problem is it'd have to be someone who's unemployed. ;)  Any
software company is going to want to patent something that valuable;
they'd be failing their shareholders if they didn't.
   

Except a private company.

We may just have to wait for the patents to expire on some older but
still viable codecs, much like eventually happened with GIF.
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
   


___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: HAL must die!

[Da Rock]

On 03/17/11 01:27, Chip Camden wrote:

Quoth Jerry on Wednesday, 16 March 2011:
   

On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 06:29:25 +
Matthew Seaman  articulated:

 

On 16/03/2011 00:37, Jerry wrote:
   

Microsoft has approximately 90% of the desktop market share with
everyone else dividing up the remainder. If you are on a Microsoft
platform you use their products. The same applies to other platforms
and their utilities.
 

Microsoft may once have had 90% of the desktop market -- but is that
still true?  Macs seem to be everywhere nowadays.

Also, how important is 'desktop' nowadays, compared to mobile browsers
and the like?  If the iPhone doesn't support Flash, then anyone with
any sense is going to provide an HTML5 alternative.
   

There are numerous sites with purport to state the latest statistics
on OS usage, etc. This is just one that I have used before. I obviously
cannot verify its accuracy. As far as I can tell, it is an impartial
assessment.

http://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=8

 

That's interesting and all, but what does such a sampling really tell you?
By contrast, if I look at Google Analytics for the OS makeup of visitors
to chipstips.com, I get only 50% Windows, 44% Mac, 5% Linux, and 1%
Android.  (I'm not sure where *BSD gets classified in that scheme).
   
BSD/Unix would either be compiled in with linux, or in the "other" 
category- usually the former, especially given the linux compatibility 
which gets used more than native for browsers.

So the number you pay attention to is the number that applies to what
you're trying to find out.  If you're looking at trends for investment,
then you need to look at growth/shrinkage rather than fixed market share.
If you're wondering how you should target your applications, then look at
usage (and growth) within your target user base (which may or may not
include home or small business users, for example).  How you obtain those
numbers has to vary depending.

I don't have hard data to back it up, but it seems to me that an awful
lot of Windows users are such merely due to inertia.  More
technologically inclined users (a growing segment) tend (but not
exclusively) to prefer other platforms.  At least, that's what I'm seeing
among my clients, readers, and associates.

   
But as mentioned in another post, the more technical may play with their 
UA settings to achieve compatibility.


The trends would show a large number of mobile users due to a tablet 
boom- which most appear to be ignoring. Better to stick to recognised 
standards and be aware of the legal implications of failing to recognise 
the _whole_ community- if someone with disabilities can sue government 
entities and win on accessibility arguments, then the same would be true 
of platforms for interaction. Take a hint- it'll be cheaper in the long 
run...

___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Fwd: Re: snd_hda, codec attaching randomly?

[David Demelier]

Hello,

I've setup a brand new computer from scratch, it has two HDMI output
(via the on board and via the ati graphic card) with one codec for the
main board.

Usually I have these pcm :

pcm0:  at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0
pcm1:  at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac1
pcm2:  at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac1
pcm3:  at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac1
pcm4:  at cad 3 nid 1 on hdac1

But sometime when I boot the pcm4 disappear, with a lot of :

hdac1: hdac_widget_connection_parse: nid=2 WARNING: zero cnid entnum=4
j=0 index=0 entries=17 found=0 res=0x
hdac1: hdac_widget_connection_parse: nid=2 WARNING: zero cnid entnum=4
j=1 index=0 entries=17 found=1 res=0x
hdac1: hdac_widget_connection_parse: nid=2 WARNING: zero cnid entnum=4
j=2 index=0 entries=17 found=2 res=0x
hdac1: hdac_widget_connection_parse: nid=2 WARNING: zero cnid entnum=4
j=3 index=0 entries=17 found=3 res=0x
[.. snip ..]

Here you can see the normal dmesg file :
http://files.malikania.fr/normal.txt

And here when the pcm disappear :
http://files.malikania.fr/notnormal.txt

A simple diff from the files show some weird things:

diff -ub normal.txt notnormal.txt
--- normal.txt 2011-03-10 08:06:14.0 +0100
+++ notnormal.txt 2011-03-10 08:06:18.0 +0100
@@ -116,24 +116,90 @@
hdac0: HDA Codec #0: ATI R6xx HDMI
pcm0:  at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0
hdac1: HDA Codec #0: Realtek ALC888
-hdac1: HDA Codec #3: Intel G45 HDMI
+hdac1: HDA Codec #3: Intel Q57 HDMI
+hdac1: hdac_widget_connection_parse: nid=2 WARNING: zero cnid entnum=4
j=0 index=0 entries=17 found=0 res=0x
+hdac1: hdac_widget_connection_parse: nid=2 WARNING: zero cnid entnum=4
j=1 index=0 entries=17 found=1 res=0x

[... message repeated a lot of time ...]

pcm1:  at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac1
pcm2:  at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac1
pcm3:  at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac1
-pcm4:  at cad 3 nid 1 on hdac1

Why does the HDMI codec is renamed to Q57?

I didn't tweak snd_hda(4) much, I only added the following in my
/boot/devices.hints to get a proper jack-sense on my front panel:

hint.hdac.1.cad0.nid27.config="as=1 seq=15"

Cheers,



Oh I noticed something weird too:

 SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched!
-SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched!
 SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched!
+SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched!

It seems the order of CPU change? I know that the Intel GMA HD graphics
needs a Intel CPU compatible to get this video chipset working.

So maybe the audio codec is attaching to the wrong core? I have no
really idea, it appears really randomly nothing can change the behavior

Cheers,

--
David Demelier
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"