Re: Gui CD soft recommend
Thanks for your several considered replies 1) If you're already got KDE libs, k3b / k3b-kde4 is pretty light 2) I find that Gnome has pretty good built-in support 3) Polytropon as 1,2 mostly I shoud have been more specific. Im running xorg with vtwm and trying to stay light / minimal as possible. Burncd is fine for alot of jobs but not whilst eating toast. xcdroast seems somewhat dated / clunky and is currently reporting that theres no disc in drive even though I can mount said disc manually [although it has worked for me in past] so I was wondering what other light users are doing? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Gui CD soft recommend
Try tkdvd. It is in ports tree (sysutils/tkdvd) -- Gökşin Akdeniz (Gökşin Akdeniz) goksin.akde...@gmail.com Anahtar parmakizi/key fingerprint= FE10 8C14 A144 4FDE BE18 D5E3 E758 F49A 8A5D F8AE [Son kullanma tarihi/expire date: 2011-06-08] signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Easiest desktop BSD distro
Sorry for top posting - my phone makes it awkward. I take your point about wireless config. Perhaps that was a poor example. To take Windows out of the equation (I've nothing against it per se) how about compiling the kernel? I left Linux a while ago, but at that time compiling and installing a new kernel on Red Hat or Slackware (to stick within my experience) was significantly harder to do than make buildkernel; make installkernel, once you had it figured. I'd suggest that part of the reason for that is the effort in Linux to make it 'easy to learn' and therefore hide the guts of stuff like this away. -- Peter Harrison www.4harrisons.blogspot.com -original message- Subject: Re: Easiest desktop BSD distro From: Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net Date: 30/03/2011 18:12 On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 09:32:29 -0700 (PDT) four.harris...@googlemail.com four.harris...@googlemail.com articulated: Once you've scaled the learning curve, you will appreciate how easy it is to achieve things with FreeBSD compared to other OS which attempt to make things 'easy' for you (wireless networking springs to mind - in my experience if Windows can't do it 'automagically' then you haven't a hope in hell of finding out what's wrong and fixing it). You have conveniently left out the part that if the OS does not have a driver for the wireless card, specifically N protocol cards, then you haven't any hope of getting it to work, period. In any case, the easiest way to get any wireless card to work in Windows, at least up to Win-7, was to deactivate the Windows wireless utility and use the one that accompanies the device, assuming that it does come with a configuration utility. I have not seen any of the top rated ones that did not. If for some reason that did not work, you could still manually enter any of the specific information manually, assuming that you actually took the time to learn (where did I here that term before) how to accomplish it. -- Jerry ✌ freebsd.u...@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ In an orderly world, there's always a place for the disorderly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
FreeBSD' Webcam and DVB Compatibility List
Hello, We have started a small documentation project in the FreeBSD Wiki: The FreeBSD' Webcam and DVB Compatibility List. http://wiki.freebsd.org/WebcamCompat The main goal of this page is to give an exact answer about which application works with a given cam or DVB. Combinations of the hardware and software mentioned below in the table are known to work. Please add more lines to the table or ask me to do so by just sending a mail with your Cam/DVB information. Please note: you should only add information you have seen working and not you may think of or imagine that they could work. The contact information (name and/or email addr) is optional. If you want me to add your webcam or DVB, please send me a structured ASCII line of the following format: Cam or DVB type (USB, build-in);Manufactor;Product Name;VendorID:ProductID (hex);Driver or kernel module;V4L/V4L2;min. tested OS version(s);Supported application(s);Additional comments;Contact i.e. -- use ';' as separator of the fields -- fill out all fields (if you don't know the value use 'unknown') -- also use 'unknown' for the field Contact if you don't want your name or mail in the row -- you may send it as one line (as shown above) or wraped lines after any ';' Please use the above format and no HTML (HTML will be silently ignored). As well, please send it to me and not to the list. Any hints, comments or questions are welcomed, of course. HIH matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e g...@unixarea.de - w http://www.unixarea.de/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Upgrade 8.1 to 8.2 still broken: info2html
Hello There was a bug described in 2003: [...] I then started a build - with a -DNOCLEAN option for speed and it failed again. I ran this under 'script' to get the output. Here is the tail of that file. stage 4: building everything.. [...] === lib/libcom_err/doc info2html com_err.info info2html:No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Remove the FORMATS=html from /etc/make.conf when building world. This is the known issue that FORMATS is used both by doc.docbook.mk and bsd.info.mk, and I will fix that soon [...] Today I run in the same problem if I updatet from 8.1 to 8.2. Only for those which have the same problem. Regards, -- Martin Schweizer off...@pc-service.ch PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH; Bannholzstrasse 6; CH-8608 Bubikon Tel. +41 55 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Easiest desktop BSD distro
On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 04:10:29 -0700 (PDT), four.harris...@googlemail.com four.harris...@googlemail.com wrote: I left Linux a while ago, but at that time compiling and installing a new kernel on Red Hat or Slackware (to stick within my experience) was significantly harder to do than make buildkernel; make installkernel, once you had it figured. Oh, on FreeBSD it's a lot easier than that: make kernel. :-) See /usr/src/Makefile's comment header where the build targets get explained. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: gcc
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:10:44PM -0500, Adam Vande More wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Gary Dunn knowt...@aloha.com wrote: When will we bump the version of gcc? On my fresh 8.2 build it is 4.2.1. The ports tree has newer, up to 4.7.0 dated 19 Mar 2011. Probably never, as GPL 3 code isn't allowed in the base system. There have been some optimizations backported to gcc in CURRENT that add in stuff like newer instruction sets I believe. eg. If you want a newer gcc, such as the one in ports, then go ahead and install it. The system uses a FreeBSD c compiler, not gcc. jerry The base system compiler is moving towards clang/llvm and it's now possible to run a clang kernel/world on CURRENT. Efforts are underway to change the ports system to allow for a more pluggable compiler eg clang/gcc44/gcc45/gcc46. -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Gui CD soft recommend
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 4:10 AM, Gökşin Akdeniz goksin.akde...@gmail.com wrote: Try tkdvd. It is in ports tree (sysutils/tkdvd) -- Gökşin Akdeniz (Gökşin Akdeniz) goksin.akde...@gmail.com Anahtar parmakizi/key fingerprint= FE10 8C14 A144 4FDE BE18 D5E3 E758 F49A 8A5D F8AE [Son kullanma tarihi/expire date: 2011-06-08] While not a GUI it's minimilistic, give bashburn a shot Port: bashburn-2.1.2_2 Path: /usr/ports/sysutils/bashburn Info: CD burning bash script -- Port: mybashburn-1.0.2_2 Path: /usr/ports/sysutils/mybashburn Info: Ncurses CD burning bash script Bashburn I've used before, Mybashburn I have not but it looks like the next elocutionary step for Bashburn if it does indeed function the same. Bashburn *IS* a collection of bash scripts that handle the cmdln apps directly (for you), all driven by a menu. -- Did you know... If you play a Windows 2000 CD backwards, you hear satanic messages, but what's worse is when you play it forward ...it installs Windows 2000 -- Alfred Perlstein on chat at freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
java support in FBSD Firefox 4
Before I attempt to (re)invent the java wheel in Firefox 4... Is there any documentation about how to enable java support already written or available. If there isn't, does anyone have any hints? Thanks Tim ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: gcc
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 09:37:53AM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:10:44PM -0500, Adam Vande More wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Gary Dunn knowt...@aloha.com wrote: When will we bump the version of gcc? On my fresh 8.2 build it is 4.2.1. The ports tree has newer, up to 4.7.0 dated 19 Mar 2011. Probably never, as GPL 3 code isn't allowed in the base system. There have been some optimizations backported to gcc in CURRENT that add in stuff like newer instruction sets I believe. eg. If you want a newer gcc, such as the one in ports, then go ahead and install it. The system uses a FreeBSD c compiler, not gcc. What is FreeBSD c compiler? Isn't it GCC? % cc --version cc (GCC) 4.2.1 20070719 [FreeBSD] As far back as I know (starting from 4.9) it's always been GCC Perhaps I misunderstood you.. -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: gcc
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 05:16:38PM +0200, Eduardo wrote: At 16:49 31/03/2011, you wrote: On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 09:37:53AM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:10:44PM -0500, Adam Vande More wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Gary Dunn knowt...@aloha.com wrote: When will we bump the version of gcc? On my fresh 8.2 build it is 4.2.1. The ports tree has newer, up to 4.7.0 dated 19 Mar 2011. Probably never, as GPL 3 code isn't allowed in the base system. There have been some optimizations backported to gcc in CURRENT that add in stuff like newer instruction sets I believe. eg. If you want a newer gcc, such as the one in ports, then go ahead and install it. The system uses a FreeBSD c compiler, not gcc. What is FreeBSD c compiler? Isn't it GCC? Now yes, but FreeBSD needs an iso c'99 compiler and source code is iso oriented, not gcc, afaik gcc hacks and code that only compiles on gcc can't be commited, there's a mailing list for iso99 compatibility checks. gcc is one of them, but there are others. 9.0-CURRENT uses llvm but in theory you can use anyone, even tcc. Are you saying GCC doesn't comply with ISO standard(s)? -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: gcc
At 16:49 31/03/2011, you wrote: On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 09:37:53AM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:10:44PM -0500, Adam Vande More wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Gary Dunn knowt...@aloha.com wrote: When will we bump the version of gcc? On my fresh 8.2 build it is 4.2.1. The ports tree has newer, up to 4.7.0 dated 19 Mar 2011. Probably never, as GPL 3 code isn't allowed in the base system. There have been some optimizations backported to gcc in CURRENT that add in stuff like newer instruction sets I believe. eg. If you want a newer gcc, such as the one in ports, then go ahead and install it. The system uses a FreeBSD c compiler, not gcc. What is FreeBSD c compiler? Isn't it GCC? Now yes, but FreeBSD needs an iso c'99 compiler and source code is iso oriented, not gcc, afaik gcc hacks and code that only compiles on gcc can't be commited, there's a mailing list for iso99 compatibility checks. gcc is one of them, but there are others. 9.0-CURRENT uses llvm but in theory you can use anyone, even tcc. % cc --version cc (GCC) 4.2.1 20070719 [FreeBSD] As far back as I know (starting from 4.9) it's always been GCC Perhaps I misunderstood you.. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: gcc
Anton == Anton Shterenlikht me...@bristol.ac.uk writes: Anton Are you saying GCC doesn't comply with ISO standard(s)? Welcome to the GNU World. First time here? :-) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 mer...@stonehenge.com URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.posterous.com/ for Smalltalk discussion ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: java support in FBSD Firefox 4
In article 4d948902.6000...@wallnet.com you write: Before I attempt to (re)invent the java wheel in Firefox 4... Is there any documentation about how to enable java support already written or available. If there isn't, does anyone have any hints? It's unchanged from 3.6, or at least, when I upgraded from 3.6 to 4 Java kept working. This link explains it pretty well: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=21010 R's, John ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
download if_ppp.ko
Where download if_ppp.ko? Denis ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: java support in FBSD Firefox 4
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Tim Kellers timot...@wallnet.com wrote: Before I attempt to (re)invent the java wheel in Firefox 4... Is there any documentation about how to enable java support already written or available. If there isn't, does anyone have any hints? As always, the FreeBSD Handbook is what you should consult first which gives a 3 command installation instructions to achieve your goal. -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: gcc
At 17:19 31/03/2011, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: What is FreeBSD c compiler? Isn't it GCC? Now yes, but FreeBSD needs an iso c'99 compiler and source code is iso oriented, not gcc, afaik gcc hacks and code that only compiles on gcc can't be commited, there's a mailing list for iso99 compatibility checks. gcc is one of them, but there are others. 9.0-CURRENT uses llvm but in theory you can use anyone, even tcc. Are you saying GCC doesn't comply with ISO standard(s)? Gcc comply with ISO standard, but has extended it and permits that many developers use that extensions, making the code gcc biased and not iso standard. Some open source projects develops using those hacks (like ffmpeg and libavcodec projects) and explicity says that source code must be compiled with gcc, if you use other compiler, it must be gcc compatible. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Easiest desktop BSD distro
On 03/30/11 23:00, Polytropon wrote: There is a project called VirtualBSD that developed a FreeBSD system image that can be used with VirtualBox. Nitpick: the web site says VirtualBSD is a virtual appliance for VMware Thanks for the pointer though, could be useful in encouraging others to try FreeBSD. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
SSH persistent sessions without screen?
I would like to have something like virtual terminals that continue running no matter if ssh is connected to them or not. Something like the screen utility. But I don't want to use screen, I'm looking for something more automated. Maybe even be able to have multiple connections on different computers. I have a number of computers and I like to use each for batch processing different stuff, especially compiling. I'm mostly interested in connecting to running sessions from a mobile android phone. I don't want to keep having to manually login every time through screen and it should be tolerant of a dropped connection. I'm thinking there is probably a way to do this with just ssh. Maybe have separate sshd daemons running on specific ports. Any ideas? Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: download if_ppp.ko
Le Thu, 31 Mar 2011 20:53:11 +0600, Denis Rybakov denp...@gmail.com a écrit : Where download if_ppp.ko? It's a kernel module, you will find it in /boot/kernel Regards ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Easiest desktop BSD distro
On 03/31/11 17:06, Arthur Chance wrote: On 03/30/11 23:00, Polytropon wrote: There is a project called VirtualBSD that developed a FreeBSD system image that can be used with VirtualBox. Nitpick: the web site says VirtualBSD is a virtual appliance for VMware Following myself up, Polytropon was technically correct as the FAQ says VirtualBSD is somewhat compatible with VirtualBox, but not right away and not easily. but I suspect the level of effort needed is going to put people off trying it. Isn't VMware more common than VBox on most systems anyway? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: java support in FBSD Firefox 4
On 03/31/11 11:06, John Levine wrote: In article4d948902.6000...@wallnet.com you write: Before I attempt to (re)invent the java wheel in Firefox 4... Is there any documentation about how to enable java support already written or available. If there isn't, does anyone have any hints? It's unchanged from 3.6, or at least, when I upgraded from 3.6 to 4 Java kept working. This link explains it pretty well: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=21010 R's, John ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Thanks. Someplace between Firefox 3.5 and 4.0 I changed from diablo to openjdk. That: ln -s /usr/local/openjdk6/jre/lib/IcedTeaPlugin.so ~/.mozilla/plugins/ was the missing step for me. Tim Kellers ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: java support in FBSD Firefox 4
This link explains it pretty well: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=21010 Someplace between Firefox 3.5 and 4.0 I changed from diablo to openjdk. It was 3.6. Check the archives for considerable gnashing of teeth as we tried to figure out how to get Java working again. ln -s /usr/local/openjdk6/jre/lib/IcedTeaPlugin.so ~/.mozilla/plugins/ was the missing step for me. Free bonus: if you use Chromium, it works there, too: ln -s /usr/local/openjdk6/jre/lib/IcedTeaPlugin.so /usr/local/share/chromium/ Regards, John Levine, jo...@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of The Internet for Dummies, Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. http://jl.ly ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: java support in FBSD Firefox 4
Tim Kellers writes: Someplace between Firefox 3.5 and 4.0 I changed from diablo to openjdk. That: ln -s /usr/local/openjdk6/jre/lib/IcedTeaPlugin.so ~/.mozilla/plugins/ was the missing step for me. I tried this, and discovered that - at least for SeaMonkey - I had to go to the plugins manager and explicitly enable it before it would show up in about:plugins. Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: download if_ppp.ko
Denis Rybakov wrote: Where download if_ppp.ko? You don't. It once was the kernel ppp module but became unsupported and was removed from the system. Use userland ppp as described here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/userppp.html Pay particular attention to the note at the top. IIRC the old device sio in the kernel config was changed to uart. Make sure you have this and note the corresponding serial port renaming that accompanied the change. I haven't used a modem in quite some time now, but that ought to get you headed in the right direction. -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Easiest desktop BSD distro
On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 17:33:09 +0100, Arthur Chance free...@qeng-ho.org wrote: On 03/31/11 17:06, Arthur Chance wrote: On 03/30/11 23:00, Polytropon wrote: There is a project called VirtualBSD that developed a FreeBSD system image that can be used with VirtualBox. Nitpick: the web site says VirtualBSD is a virtual appliance for VMware Following myself up, Polytropon was technically correct as the FAQ says VirtualBSD is somewhat compatible with VirtualBox, but not right away and not easily. but I suspect the level of effort needed is going to put people off trying it. Isn't VMware more common than VBox on most systems anyway? Thanks for stating that; in fact, I was confusing VMWare and VirtualBox while typing. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Ethernet connection and monitor resolution in DesktopBSD
I'm trying out DesktopBSD in VirtualBox. I like it better than PC-BSD and GhostBSD. However, the Internet connection isn't working out-of-the-box. When I go to the network configuration utility, select the auto DHCP, and click on Connect, nothing happens. I have an Internet connection in my host OS, so no external factors are stopping my Internet connection in DesktopBSD (guest OS). Also, my screen resolution is stuck at 800x600. How do I change it to 1024x768? -- Jason Hsu jhsu802...@jasonhsu.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: SSH persistent sessions without screen?
On Thu, 2011-03-31 at 09:00 -0700, Chris Telting wrote: I would like to have something like virtual terminals that continue running no matter if ssh is connected to them or not. Something like the screen utility. But I don't want to use screen, tmux? I'm looking for something more automated. Maybe even be able to have multiple connections on different computers. I have a number of computers and I like to use each for batch processing different stuff, especially compiling. I'm mostly interested in connecting to running sessions from a mobile android phone. I don't want to keep having to manually login every time through screen and it should be tolerant of a dropped connection. I'm thinking there is probably a way to do this with just ssh. Maybe have separate sshd daemons running on specific ports. Any ideas? Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Easiest desktop BSD distro
On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 12:05:36 -0400, Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net wrote: On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 00:12:26 +0200 Polytropon free...@edvax.de articulated: On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 13:12:23 -0400, Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net wrote: On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 09:32:29 -0700 (PDT) four.harris...@googlemail.com four.harris...@googlemail.com articulated: Once you've scaled the learning curve, you will appreciate how easy it is to achieve things with FreeBSD compared to other OS which attempt to make things 'easy' for you (wireless networking springs to mind - in my experience if Windows can't do it 'automagically' then you haven't a hope in hell of finding out what's wrong and fixing it). You have conveniently left out the part that if the OS does not have a driver for the wireless card, specifically N protocol cards, then you haven't any hope of getting it to work, period. Although this is correct, you're concluding the wrong thing, in my opinion. So you are concluding that if it doesn't have a drive it will work? No, this was the introduction for my further arguments, given below the quote of your last paragraph. In any case, the easiest way to get any wireless card to work in Windows, at least up to Win-7, was to deactivate the Windows wireless utility and use the one that accompanies the device, assuming that it does come with a configuration utility. I have not seen any of the top rated ones that did not. If for some reason that did not work, you could still manually enter any of the specific information manually, assuming that you actually took the time to learn (where did I here that term before) how to accomplish it. So what are you doing, basically? You're taking the operating system's responsibility to interact with hardware. I know there are different approaches. One approach is to let the system interface with hardware, usually by its kernel and the corresponding (loadable) modules. A different approach is to use drivers to do that. Those drivers traditionally come from the same source as the hardware comes. Advantage: The hardware vendor doesn't have to pay attention to existing standards. He just has to made sure that his driver works with the system - depending on his target audience, this may be only one special system (version) in particular. You furthermore suggested to explicitely BYPASS the system's means of accessing hardware and to rely on what the hardware vendor provided. You have stated before that you don't use Microsoft. Sadly, I have to deal with it from time to time, but this is related to customers who still use it (usually outdated versions). Fair enough, but now you are displaying your total ignorance of what I was referring to. The Windows Wireless Access Tool is a simple, rudimentary configuration utility. Its primary function was to assist users in entering user-names, passwords, etcetera and in discovering available wireless networks. Most high quality vendors supply their own tool which is more specific to their device. I do not understand specific to device when we're talking about established (even wireless) networking standards. For example, is there a need for a hardware-specific ifconfig program that is required for NICs of brand A, while brand B uses the default ifconfig program, but needs a hardware- specific ping program? If an operating system supports standards (and it SHOULD do that), it should make it easy to do so from a user's point of view so any manufacturer-specific tools are not needed to interact with; the only kind of software would be drivers, but those usually aren't interacted with. Unfortunately, in early versions of Windows, ie, XP, if the user were to start the Windows Wireless Access Tool it could interfere with the vendors own tool. That doesn't sound good. Newer versions all prominently display that another utility is running and ask which one to shut down. Since most vendors want their own utility running full time to manage the wireless network, shutting down the Windows version is the usually accepted protocol. I see. But I don't understand why it should neccessary to give control over networking from one blackbox to another... oh, never mind, I'll return to that statement later on. The Windows version was only created to assist users who were attempting to use devices that did not have such a tool. If you knew anything about Windows and how it handles wireless devices you would have known that. I've fought with Windows in this regards. Thanks, but NO thanks. It was not, and never meant to be a driver for said device. But a tool for interaction. The driver is not such kind of software. If you haven't lost control by the OS choice yet, you have lost it by the driver. Seriously, do you have a clue as to what you are talking about? Yes, I have. It's a typical discussion
Re: Ethernet connection and monitor resolution in DesktopBSD
On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 12:14:04 -0500, Jason Hsu jhsu802...@jasonhsu.com wrote: I'm trying out DesktopBSD in VirtualBox. I like it better than PC-BSD and GhostBSD. However, the Internet connection isn't working out-of-the-box. When I go to the network configuration utility, select the auto DHCP, and click on Connect, nothing happens. I have an Internet connection in my host OS, so no external factors are stopping my Internet connection in DesktopBSD (guest OS). You can - for diagnostics - try to launch DHCP from command line. To do so, use # /etc/rc.d/dhclient restart or start, if it's not started yet. You can also use the more bare bones method of the dhclient program. See man dhclient for details. Also, my screen resolution is stuck at 800x600. How do I change it to 1024x768? I'm not sure if DesktopBSD uses an xorg.conf configuration file or if the setting is done using a GUI tool (maybe a tool provided by KDE). Basically the handbook sections about how to configure X should apply. See Section 5.4 of the handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: gcc
Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Gary Dunn knowt...@aloha.com wrote: When will we bump the version of gcc? On my fresh 8.2 build it is 4.2.1. The ports tree has newer, up to 4.7.0 dated 19 Mar 2011. Probably never, as GPL 3 code isn't allowed in the base system. ... Can someone point me to an official position statement on this ban on GPL3 code in FreeBSD? Doesn't seem right to me. And please, no GPL flame wars. -- Gary Dunn, Honolulu Open Slate Project http://openslate.org http://www.facebook.com/garydunn808 http://e9erust.blogspot.com Twitter @garydunn808 Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: gcc
Anton Shterenlikht me...@bristol.ac.uk wrote: On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 09:37:53AM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:10:44PM -0500, Adam Vande More wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Gary Dunn knowt...@aloha.com wrote: When will we bump the version of gcc? On my fresh 8.2 build it is 4.2.1. The ports tree has newer, up to 4.7.0 dated 19 Mar 2011. Probably never, as GPL 3 code isn't allowed in the base system. There have been some optimizations backported to gcc in CURRENT that add in stuff like newer instruction sets I believe. eg. If you want a newer gcc, such as the one in ports, then go ahead and install it. The system uses a FreeBSD c compiler, not gcc. What is FreeBSD c compiler? Isn't it GCC? % cc --version cc (GCC) 4.2.1 20070719 [FreeBSD] As far back as I know (starting from 4.9) it's always been GCC Perhaps I misunderstood you.. -- Anton Shterenlikht Room 2.6, Queen's Building Mech Eng Dept Bristol University University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK Tel: +44 (0)117 331 5944 Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423 Me too. Am I wrong to think that installing a newer gcc could break system or port building? -- Gary Dunn, Honolulu Open Slate Project http://openslate.org http://www.facebook.com/garydunn808 http://e9erust.blogspot.com Twitter @garydunn808 Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: SSH persistent sessions without screen?
* Chris Telting christopher...@telting.org [2011-03-31 09:00:02-0700]: Something like the screen utility. But I don't want to use screen, I'm looking for something more automated. tmux can do this, and unlike GNU screen, can be easily scripted. Check it out, we started using it at $work early year and we had about 2 dozen people move permanently from screen (like me, they'd been using it for years) to tmux. Thomas ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: gcc
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Gary Dunn knowt...@aloha.com wrote: Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Gary Dunn knowt...@aloha.com wrote: When will we bump the version of gcc? On my fresh 8.2 build it is 4.2.1. The ports tree has newer, up to 4.7.0 dated 19 Mar 2011. Probably never, as GPL 3 code isn't allowed in the base system. ... Can someone point me to an official position statement on this ban on GPL3 code in FreeBSD? Doesn't seem right to me. And please, no GPL flame wars. -- Clang/LLVM has an active development base and a clear future http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/current/2010-05/msg00409.html Not official, but this may be of help? http://wiki.freebsd.org/201005ToolchainSummitSummary Hope this helps in some way. Regards, Antonio ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: SSH persistent sessions without screen?
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 09:00:02AM -0700, Chris Telting wrote: I would like to have something like virtual terminals that continue running no matter if ssh is connected to them or not. Something like the screen utility. But I don't want to use screen, I'm looking for something more automated. Maybe even be able to have multiple connections on different computers. I have a number of computers and I like to use each for batch processing different stuff, especially compiling. I'm mostly interested in connecting to running sessions from a mobile android phone. I don't want to keep having to manually login every time through screen and it should be tolerant of a dropped connection. I'm thinking there is probably a way to do this with just ssh. Maybe have separate sshd daemons running on specific ports. Any ideas? I'm not 100% clear on what you're trying to avoid from GNU Screen, but my first thought when you said you wanted persistent sessions without GNU Screen was tmux. Count mine as a third vote for tmux, if that suits your needs. Depending on your actual needs, you could also look into using the nohup command. It's not a terminal multiplexer but, in the words of the manpage, it allows you to run a command immune to hangups, with output to a non-tty. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpqFYnnxccRE.pgp Description: PGP signature
FreeNX server on 64bits?
Hi, I wanted to install FreeNX server from ports on an amd64 machine, but I found the port only supports i386 architecture. Here's the output: martin@server:/usr/ports/net/freenx$ sudo make install clean Password: === Installing for freenx-0.6.0_3 === freenx-0.6.0_3 depends on file: /usr/local/NX/bin/nxagent - not found ===Verifying install for /usr/local/NX/bin/nxagent in /usr/ports/net/nxserver === nxserver-2.1.0_7 is only for i386, while you are running amd64. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net/nxserver. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net/freenx. Does anyone knows if there's a way to install it on 64bits? Thanks in advance. Leonardo M. Ramé http://leonardorame.blogspot.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ruby cpu 100% hang during pkgdb -F
Hello, I'm asking again about pkgdb -F because it's still running. On 03/29/2011 07:50 AM, Roland van Laar wrote: Hello, I updated FreeBSD 8.0 to 8.2 with freebsd-update. Everything went fine till I got to the ports: I used the commands: snip # pkgdb -F gives me this: --- Checking the package registry database [Rebuilding the pkgdb format:bdb_btree in /var/db/pkg ... - 185 packages found (-0 +185) 100. done] Stale origin: 'devel/automake19': perhaps moved or obsoleted. - The port 'devel/automake19' was removed on 2010-10-07 because: No longer required by any port - Hint: automake-1.9.6_3 is not required by any other package - Hint: checking for overwritten files... - No files installed by automake-1.9.6_3 have been overwritten by other packages. Deinstall automake-1.9.6_3 ? [no] yes snip Checking zh_tw-freebsd-doc-20100625 Regenerating +REQUIRED_BY files Checking for cyclic dependencies After more than 55 hours of runtine pkgdb -F still hasn't finished and is 'Checking for cyclic dependencies'. Is it normal that pkgdb -F takes such a long time? And is there something I can do to fix this? Roland What do I need to do to update my ports? tldr: updated ports, rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db and pkgdf -F hangs at 100% cpu. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Text Ticker app. nntp / rss client?
Hi, So I'm looking for a simple way to distribute company info internally, such as: application availability info, weather updates, etc. Whatever the powers at be deem appropriate to distribute. I'm thinking maybe something based on nntp, rss, or whatever. I would personally like to see this as a multicast app. The client would then join at least two groups: 1.) The general company info group, and 2.) their specific department group. The client would...cycle / loop displaying text from each group it joined. Ie: Company XYZ: stock is $591, company picnic June 7th!, Red Truck has it's lights on... Customer service: 13 calls in queue, 2 holding for 5+ minutes. Mandatory overtime for Jayhawks Group this weekend... Maybe it can get fancy and when new text is displayed it will change colors, flash, come to front / on top of desktop (unhide), etc. I've spent a few mins searching ports and only found one stock ticker app. I'll check the nntp servers - and others. Any ideas are appreciated. Thanks! Gary font size=1 div style='border:none;border-bottom:double windowtext 2.25pt;padding:0in 0in 1.0pt 0in' /div This email is intended to be reviewed by only the intended recipient and may contain information that is privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, use, dissemination, disclosure or copying of this email and its attachments, if any, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender by return email and delete this email from your system. /font ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ruby cpu 100% hang during pkgdb -F
On 31 March 2011 16:46, Roland van Laar rol...@micite.net wrote: Hello, I'm asking again about pkgdb -F because it's still running. On 03/29/2011 07:50 AM, Roland van Laar wrote: Hello, I updated FreeBSD 8.0 to 8.2 with freebsd-update. Everything went fine till I got to the ports: I used the commands: snip # pkgdb -F gives me this: --- Checking the package registry database [Rebuilding the pkgdb format:bdb_btree in /var/db/pkg ... - 185 packages found (-0 +185) 100. done] Stale origin: 'devel/automake19': perhaps moved or obsoleted. - The port 'devel/automake19' was removed on 2010-10-07 because: No longer required by any port - Hint: automake-1.9.6_3 is not required by any other package - Hint: checking for overwritten files... - No files installed by automake-1.9.6_3 have been overwritten by other packages. Deinstall automake-1.9.6_3 ? [no] yes snip Checking zh_tw-freebsd-doc-20100625 Regenerating +REQUIRED_BY files Checking for cyclic dependencies After more than 55 hours of runtine pkgdb -F still hasn't finished and is 'Checking for cyclic dependencies'. Is it normal that pkgdb -F takes such a long time? And is there something I can do to fix this? Roland What do I need to do to update my ports? tldr: updated ports, rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db and pkgdf -F hangs at 100% cpu. Not entirely sure, but it's probably a lot simpler faster to: a) backup /var/db/pkg (I usually just tar --options xz:compression-level=1 -Jcf /home/tmp/hostname.var.db.pkg.tar.xz ) b) rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db c) pkg_delete -f auto\[mc\]\* d) pkgdb -Ff Another option is ports-mgmt/portmaster, which quite nice now, downright polished, doesn't depend upon ruby (NTTAWWT) nor rely upon weirdly redundantly-named database files for dependency checking, etc*. *I could have said functionality but that's such a vile, 20th century neologism, almost as bad as using impact for effect and affect. -- -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Easiest desktop BSD distro
On 3/31/11 1:10 PM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 17:33:09 +0100, Arthur Chance free...@qeng-ho.org wrote: On 03/31/11 17:06, Arthur Chance wrote: On 03/30/11 23:00, Polytropon wrote: There is a project called VirtualBSD that developed a FreeBSD system image that can be used with VirtualBox. Nitpick: the web site says VirtualBSD is a virtual appliance for VMware Following myself up, Polytropon was technically correct as the FAQ says VirtualBSD is somewhat compatible with VirtualBox, but not right away and not easily. but I suspect the level of effort needed is going to put people off trying it. Isn't VMware more common than VBox on most systems anyway? Thanks for stating that; in fact, I was confusing VMWare and VirtualBox while typing. :-) I've no experience with VirtualBSD. But I can say that VBox comes with host configs for FreeBSD 32 and 64 clients. Yesterday I fed the FreeBSD 8.2 RELEASE Disk 1 ISO into VBox and it installed very nicely. Network even came up with DHCP. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
FBSD support for Intel mini-itx board w. realtek 8111D nic
Hi: I've got a fanless via based mini-itx box as my gateway and server and looking to upgrade to a Intel Atom based box. I believe it's supported out of the box. Now, I don't have an extra monitor, basically I'm gonna take the old disk, plug it in and hope it will boot (FBSD81, GENERIC kernel). So, I'm looking at the D945GSEJT which has a realtek 8111DL nic. Which driver is used for this nic? Well, basically I need to preconfigure the network so I can connect if/when it gets up. Thanks, Erik ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: gcc
At 20:19 31/03/2011, Gary Dunn wrote: Can someone point me to an official position statement on this ban on GPL3 code in FreeBSD? Doesn't seem right to me. And please, no GPL flame wars. Don't know if there were an official Some links that may be interesting: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=7035 http://ivoras.sharanet.org/freebsd/freebsd9.html CLANG / LLVM compiler entry http://www.links.org/?p=518 Will GPLv3 Kill GPL? http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#v2v3Compatibility GPLv2 compatible with GPLv3? http://www.bsdcan.org/2010/schedule/events/175.en.html Apple and some other companies made the switch from gcc to llvm some years ago, in Apple case, because gnu/fsf forced to make all objective-c compiler developed by Apple for gcc open source, because gcc was GPL (http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1390172) Resuming, or my resume, GPLv3 is politically incorrect for a BSD project, it's preferred BSD tools, made by BSD community for BSD community and (as licence allows it) by extension everyone than GPLv3 tools made for GNU/FSF and (as licence don't permit share) only for them. HTH ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: gcc
At 20:22 31/03/2011, Gary Dunn wrote: Anton Shterenlikht me...@bristol.ac.uk wrote: Me too. Am I wrong to think that installing a newer gcc could break system or port building? No, you must take care that newer gcc will be installed on /usr/local/bin and not in /usr/bin, check this forum entry: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=7035 (it's the first one on my other post) You can use the newer gcc for you apps if you want, i made the change some months ago and i'm a happy clang/llvm user now. HTH ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FBSD support for Intel mini-itx board w. realtek 8111D nic
On Fri, 1 Apr 2011, Erik Nørgaard wrote: I'm looking at the D945GSEJT which has a realtek 8111DL nic. Which driver is used for this nic? re(4). Some forum users have had recent problems with certain versions (maybe newer) of the 8111. My older 8111C onboard versions have always worked fine.___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
