Re: I hate to bitch but bitch I must
PJ wrote: manual: it is assumed that a single ATA disk is used, which is currently recognized by the system as ad0. It is also assumed that the standard FreeBSD partition scheme is used, with /, /var, /usr and /tmp file systems, as well as a swap partition. Now, does that mean that glabel does not work if there are several disks on the system... it certainly does not say so nor does it adv ertise that this would not work if there are several ATA disks present.. Previously I had also tried a reboot press 4 with exactly the same results It does say Example on top. And then again: For this *example* it is assumed that a single ATA disk is used,... It doesn't say what will not work with it. It simply assumes some defaults to give a reasonable example. Now, don't tell me this is ambiguous too... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: I hate to bitch but bitch I must
Matthew Seaman wrote: Manolis Kiagias wrote: PJ wrote: Now, does that mean that glabel does not work if there are several disks on the system... it certainly does not say so nor does it adv ertise that this would not work if there are several ATA disks present.. Previously I had also tried a reboot press 4 with exactly the same results Aha, as I said above then. If you've done this and you are still getting the can't store metadata message, I am really out of ideas. Just a WAG, but sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16 possibly? Cheers, Matthew Ha, yes, the shoot in the foot sysctl :) Shouldn't be needed though - I was labelling a boot disk about half an hour ago and nothing else than pure 'glabel label' was required. There must be something else that stops it. Maybe running glabel with -v will help the OP (hopefully with a more detailed error message) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: GEOM label clarification
PJ wrote: If I understand correctly from the manual, giving the labels their slice name (/dev/label/rootfs rather than /dev/ad4s1a) will assure that regardless of the disk, the boot will be from the disk being booted and not from another disk as happened to me recently - the fstab on disk ad4 was referncing ad12 so the boot was from ad12 rather than ad4. The handbook says: By permanently labeling the partitions on the boot disk, the system should be able to continue to boot normally, even if the disk is moved to another controller or transferred to a different system. For this example, it is assumed that a single ATA disk is used, which is currently recognized by the system as ad0. If the disk is moved to another system, it may no longer be ad0... So will it still boot correctly? In short, yes. I do this routinely all the time. Assuming of course that the device is connected to a controller that FreeBSD recognizes. This should be a non-issue for standard ATA/SATA disks. Or should the ufsid labels be used? The ufsid is also an option if you do not wish to create the labels yourself. The advantage of user-created labels is that they are not 'cryptic' like the ufsid ones and you may actually remember them :) Will both of these contortions work? Yes, both will do. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: GEOM label clarification
PJ wrote: Manolis Kiagias wrote: PJ wrote: If I understand correctly from the manual, giving the labels their slice name (/dev/label/rootfs rather than /dev/ad4s1a) will assure that regardless of the disk, the boot will be from the disk being booted and not from another disk as happened to me recently - the fstab on disk ad4 was referncing ad12 so the boot was from ad12 rather than ad4. The handbook says: By permanently labeling the partitions on the boot disk, the system should be able to continue to boot normally, even if the disk is moved to another controller or transferred to a different system. For this example, it is assumed that a single ATA disk is used, which is currently recognized by the system as ad0. If the disk is moved to another system, it may no longer be ad0... So will it still boot correctly? In short, yes. I do this routinely all the time. Assuming of course that the device is connected to a controller that FreeBSD recognizes. This should be a non-issue for standard ATA/SATA disks. Or should the ufsid labels be used? The ufsid is also an option if you do not wish to create the labels yourself. The advantage of user-created labels is that they are not 'cryptic' like the ufsid ones and you may actually remember them :) Will both of these contortions work? Yes, both will do. Thanks for the reassurance. Now to start labelling. Uh.. I guess that means that if I label 1 disk and then clone it to several others, they wil all work from any system... Well, I guess I'll try it. Thanks again. How are going to clone it? Will the clone also copy the labels? For example, if doing a dump / restore (which I often do) I recreate the partitions manually, newfs them, label them and then restore the contents. In many cases I use a live (Fixit) system for this. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: GEOM label clarification
PJ wrote: NOW THIS SUCKS. SUM # glabel label rootfs/dev/ad12s1a glabel: Can't store metadata on /dev/ad12s1a: Operation not permitted This is direct from the manual what the $#*(@)! is going on? No identical post on web, but similar say to ignore: it's harmless? I so, why is it there? There seem to be quite a lot of these kinds of stumbling blocks that are just plalin annoying... Is this an annoyance or what for the above situation? Is this your normal '/' filesystem, and is it mounted? If it is reboot your system and select 'single user mode' from the loader.menu Then use glabel in the single user mode prompt. This will not work if you just 'shutdown now', you have to reboot into single user mode. If it is not your real '/' at the moment, and it is not mounted, you should be able to do it. Booting from the fixit LiveCD will also work in any case. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: I hate to bitch but bitch I must
PJ wrote: Why is it that the manual pages, as thorough as they may be, are very, very confusing. Perhaps I am being too wary, but I find that too many instructions/examples are stumbling blocks to appreciation of the whole system: for instance, let's look at the instructions for changing disk labels with glabel or is it tunefs ? man glabel(8): for UFS the file system label is set with tunefs(8) http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=tunefssektion=8apropos=0manpath=FreeBSD+7.2-RELEASE. what happened to glabel? man tunefs(8) The *tunefs* utility cannot be run on an active file system. To change an active file system, it must be downgraded to read-only or unmounted. So, you have to run tunefs from an active file system to modify another disk? but from man tunefs: BUGS This utility should work on active file systems. What in hades does this mean--just above it says cannot be run on active file systems. ??? To change the root file system, the system must be rebooted after the file system is tuned. You can tune a file system, but you cannot tune a fish. How cute... And fish eat bugs. Seriously, now to the manual: To create a permanent label for a UFS2 file system without destroying any data, issue the following command: # tunefs -L /home/ /dev/da3 Oh? home is what? What does this have to do with the partitions? Here's from man glabel(8): EXAMPLES The following example shows how to set up a label for disk ``da2'', cre- ate a file system on it, and mount it: glabel label -v usr /dev/da2 newfs /dev/label/usr mount /dev/label/usr /usr [...] umount /usr glabel stop usr glabel unload The next example shows how to set up a label for a UFS file system: tunefs -L data /dev/da4s1a mount /dev/ufs/data /mnt/data Am I to understand that glabel is only for a new system? What's with the newfs... I'm trying to set labels on an system that is already set up. And, the glabel examle above is not for UFS file systems? Oh, that's for tunefs? So why are we even dealing with this glabel? from manual: # tunefs -L /home/ //dev/da3/ A label should now exist in /dev/ufs which may be added to /etc/fstab: /dev/ufs/home /home ufs rw 2 2 Why? Is this necessary? and somewhere I saw tunefs -L volume /dev/da0s1a or something like that. Does that mean that each partition should be tunefsd? Maybe the guys who programmed this stuff understand; I sure don't. I just want to be able to set the labels according to what they say can be done... so shy not have a clear and concise explanation? Relax. You are having a bad day, and you are topping it by trying to perform some stuff while you are not in the right state of mind. If you do insist on continuing with this, do the following: Make a list of your partitions - I'll assume a device name of /dev/ad1 for the disk. You should have: ad1s1a for root = Label this as rootfs ad1s1b for swap = Label this as swap ad1s1e for tmp = Label this as tmpfs ad1s1d for var = Label this as varfs ad1s1f for usr = Label this as usrfs If you are unsure of the device names, try ls /dev/ad* (or ls /dev/da* if you are using SCSI disks, which I think you are not) Now, reboot: shutdown -r now Press 4 and enter single user mode in the loader. In the single user mode prompt type: glabel label rootfs /dev/ad1s1a glabel label swap /dev/ad1s1b glabel label tmpfs /dev/ad1s1e glabel label varfs /dev/ad1s1d glabel label usrfs /dev/ad1s1f You should get no error messages from these. Type exit and continue to multiuser boot. Change /etc/fstab: change /dev/ad1s1a to /dev/label/rootfs /dev/ad1s1b to /dev/label/swap and so on. Reboot once again. Everything should work. Do people who write this stuff ever read it? Tell me t Yes, we do. All the time actually. hat its clear and simple and to the point... so far, I have been running back and forth between half a dozen web pages trying to understand what is going on... and doing things through a dense fog does not produce creative results!___ You will have best results when trying with a clear mind. Also having a test system (or a VMware / Virtualbox machine) will help you learn and practice unknown procedures without the anxiety of breaking something on your production system. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: GEOM label clarification
Polytropon wrote: On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 00:43:37 +0300, Manolis Kiagias son...@otenet.gr wrote: Is this your normal '/' filesystem, and is it mounted? If it is reboot your system and select 'single user mode' from the loader.menu Then use glabel in the single user mode prompt. This will not work if you just 'shutdown now', you have to reboot into single user mode. Isn't it sufficient to unmount any partitions and keep / in -o ro mode, and then perform the glabel command, which is obviously best done in single user mode? I had variable results on a few systems and feel it is safest to perform a clean single user mode boot. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: I hate to bitch but bitch I must
PJ wrote: Manolis, my state of mind is quite clear... and I'm coping with everything quite allright... I'm not about to get mad at anyone or anything... but tell me, honestly, when you see the stuff I have described above? Woldn't that confuse anyone in their right mind? I am sorry, but there is something here, either some mistake on your part or some other weird problem on your system I can not think of. I don't seem to remember glabel ever failing to store metadata, unless 1) The device is non-existing 2) The device is mounted. As a matter of fact, I did the glabel stuff on a machine a few hours ago. This was already fully installed, I rebooted single user and was done in less than 2 minutes. And yes, if you get a metadata error, it means nothing was done so you are *not* to go and change fstab! Could you please send us /etc/fstab and the results of ls /dev/ad* ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: gmirror, gjournal and glabel - which order?
Daniel Bye wrote: Hi all, I'm having a hard time trying to work out which order I should set up gmirror, glabel and gjournal on a new system. I want to journal my /home partition, label all the partitions for ease of reference, and use gmirror to save me in the event a disk goes bad. I am struggling to fit the pieces together conceptually in my mind. I understand the processes involved in setting each part separately - my problem is in trying to build this up in the right order so that it all makes sense. So far, I have labelled the primary drive and set up the journal. I have edited fstab to reflect the labels and journalled file system on /home. If I now build a mirror, don't I need to alter fstab to mount that and not the stuff in /dev/label? In which case, I guess I need to build the mirror first, and then set up labels and journals? I'm going round and round in circles here and none of the stuff I've read on the web enlightens me... :-/ Any insights or suggestions would be taken as a great kindness! Dan When not mirroring, I first create the journals and then label the resulting ad.journal devices In case you are doing a gmirror device, you would not really need the separate label step - the gm device name won't change and gmirror is not affected if the device names of the individual disks change (the disks are marked as part of a mirror and scanned at startup). When you are creating the composite gmirror device you are effectively labeling it anyway i.e. gmirror label gm0... Now if you follow the usual tutorials found in the web you would be using gm0 / gm1 but you actually name it any way you wish. If you really need to label the separate gmirrored partitions, do it after setting up the mirror. Concerning the order of journals and mirroring, I create the journals first, then mirror the result. This has always worked fine for me. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Updating the ports collection
Chris Stankevitz wrote: The FreeBSD handbook section 4.5.1 describes several methods for obtaining the ports collection including CVSup, Portsnap, and sysinstall. Section 4.5.1 also describes how to update the ports collection, but only for the CVSup and Portsnap methods. Q1: How do I update the ports collection after using sysinstall to obtain it? You can use csup as explained in section 4.5.1. This will update the Ports Collection you installed from CD/DVD by fetching only the required newer files Or, you can use portsnap too like this: First time: portsnap fetch extract Subsequent times: portsnap fetch update If you are starting with an empty Ports tree (for example you skipped installing it from CD during sysinstall) portsnap will be faster than csup. (Note you can start with an empty tree and csup as well) Anytime you decide to switch from csup to portsnap, always perform an 'extract' Q2: Is this explained in the handbook? If so, where? In section 4.5 as you noticed already. Portsnap is also revisited in chapter 24: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/updating-upgrading-portsnap.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: just cloning
PJ wrote: Maybe this is what I really need since I want to set up 3 identical 7.2 computers and back them up and update as needed. This should assure a minimum of headaches like what I have been experienceg lately. This link http://cabstand.com/usbflash.html seems to be about right, but I'd like to get some opinions on what would be the best way to go about this. I assume that I must do one difinitive installation on 1 computer. Then to clone, do I dump the partitions to a usb disk and restore to the other two computers; or do I follow the instructions on the above link. Obviously, it would be nice if it could be K.I.S.S. Can't tell about these instructions (would be nice to try them though) but I can assure you I've used the dump/restore method numerous times and it works great. There are a few things one should take care of: 1. Don't forget to install MBR / boot blocks on your new disk after restoring the dump(s) (see also this post http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-July/201809.html) 2. Don't forget to manually create directories that you excluded from your dump (like /dev /mnt) 3. Since you will (obviously) not dump /tmp don't forget to set the sticky bit on it when you newfs and mount it - All sort of weird things will happen if it is not set. 4. If the machines are identical it probably doesn't matter, but it would be a good idea to label the partitions so you don't have to rely on device names in fstab (as these change depending on the motherboard, disk controller, sata connector used etc.), see http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/geom-glabel.html You can even restore by booting the FreeBSD live FS CD (or the DVD). As I recall you may have to define TMPDIR to something writable (to a directory in the USB disk you are using for the dumps) for restore to work properly. Restore will tell you about this if needed. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Question about FreeBSD installation procedure
Bret Busby wrote: On Sat, 26 Sep 2009, Manolis Kiagias wrote: Bret Busby wrote: Hello. I have been interested in installing FreeBSD on my laptop (HP/Compaq NX5000, 2MB RAM), in a free 20MB partition. I really hope you meant Gb here ;) I noticed that the Linux Format magazine to which I subscribe, in Issue 124, comes with FreeBSD 7.2 on the DVD. From what I understand, FreeBSD (and possibly all BSD) uses hard disc slices rather than partitions, and therefore cannot easily be installed in a free partition, but needs for hard disc slices to be used. 'Slice' is FreeBSD jargon for what Windows / DOS would call a 'primary partition'. In short, FreeBSD can only be installed in your machine only if you have free space *and* the possibility to create a primary partition in it . Due to BIOS limitations, PC hardware only supports 4 primary partitions on any disk. If you already have 4 primary partitions and you are not willing to delete one, you can't install FreeBSD as it won't install on what Windows calls an Extended partition. But let's say you have a typical laptop with two partitions for OS and data, and some free space at the end. FreeBSD will happily install there. Is it yet possible to install FreeBSD into a hard disc partition, rather than needing to install into hard disc slices? I have attached a copy of the screenshot showing the partition table; I wanted to install FreeBSD into sda8. Can this be done. Thank you in anticipation. The screenshot won't come through in the mailing list, if at all possible upload it somewhere and send us a link. See http://busby.net/bret/Screenshot--dev-sda-GParted.png However, with the response above, and, with all of the responses thus far, to the query, it appears that I cannot install FreeBSD on the computer, without a full system rebuild, involving removal of all of the installed operating systems and software from the computer, then repartitioning, or, slicing up, the hard drive, and then creating new logical, extended partitions, and then reinstalling each of the operating systems, and all of the software for each of the operating systems, trying to ensure that I then have at least all of the software that is currently installed on each operating system on the computer, and, the data that is currently present on the computer. Judging from the screen shot, you should still be able to do it using gparted to shuffle the partitions a bit. (I recommend using the gparted or the parted magic live cd for this) One possible way would be to delete sda8 and move the free space to the end of the extended partition. Then resize the extended partition so the free space is out of it. Create a primary partition out of the free space (or let FreeBSD do it during install). You still have primary partitions available, your current disk setup includes one primary and one extended partition with many 'logical partitions'. Granted, this will take some time but it will work. And, with being required to do all of that, I do not know what would happen, regarding issues such as the interrupt conflict that I encountered when trying to initially install Debian 3.1 on the computer, the interrupt conflict being between the WiFi card and the ethernet card, which reuired Ubuntu to resolve the conflict, then (at the time, as I was then a strictly Debian user) uninstalling Ubuntu to reinstall Debian 3.1, with the solution to the interrupt conflict, having used Mandriva Linux to do the partitioning, so as to retain the initial installation of MS Win XP, which I would probably lose, and have to install from scratch, as part of installing BSD on the system. You could try simply booting the FreeBSD DVD or livefs CD and see what devices get recognized and any potential problems, without committing to installing anything. So, getting the system set up, initially, to get Debian 3.1 running (it has been superseded on the system, first by Debian 4, and, now, by Debian 5), took a fair bit of time and effort, and problem solving, using various operating systems, to get the one extra operating system installed. Due to the time and effort involved, and the apparent complexity, it all seems too difficult, to install BSD. I would agree all this would be too difficult for someone doing a first time install of FreeBSD, having to address multiple issues at the same time. If at all possible I'd recommend trying on a second spare system. FreeBSD runs very well on older systems too, maybe it's time to get this old PC out of the closet :) If FreeBSD would be able to be installed in a logical partition, within an extended partition, as can be done with Linux, it would probably be able to be done by me - in the meantime, it is simply too difficult. I have no idea whether there are plans for these. Personally I avoid multi-boot systems at all if possible. I always tend to use one of the OSes anyway , the other just wastes disk space
Re: Question about FreeBSD installation procedure
Bret Busby wrote: Hello. I have been interested in installing FreeBSD on my laptop (HP/Compaq NX5000, 2MB RAM), in a free 20MB partition. I really hope you meant Gb here ;) I noticed that the Linux Format magazine to which I subscribe, in Issue 124, comes with FreeBSD 7.2 on the DVD. From what I understand, FreeBSD (and possibly all BSD) uses hard disc slices rather than partitions, and therefore cannot easily be installed in a free partition, but needs for hard disc slices to be used. 'Slice' is FreeBSD jargon for what Windows / DOS would call a 'primary partition'. In short, FreeBSD can only be installed in your machine only if you have free space *and* the possibility to create a primary partition in it . Due to BIOS limitations, PC hardware only supports 4 primary partitions on any disk. If you already have 4 primary partitions and you are not willing to delete one, you can't install FreeBSD as it won't install on what Windows calls an Extended partition. But let's say you have a typical laptop with two partitions for OS and data, and some free space at the end. FreeBSD will happily install there. Is it yet possible to install FreeBSD into a hard disc partition, rather than needing to install into hard disc slices? I have attached a copy of the screenshot showing the partition table; I wanted to install FreeBSD into sda8. Can this be done. Thank you in anticipation. The screenshot won't come through in the mailing list, if at all possible upload it somewhere and send us a link. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: changing port options in Freebsd
Aflatoon Aflatooni wrote: What is the best way to change an option on an installed port? should I deinstall and then reinstall with the updated options on the port? Yes. Also what was the command to change the options through make? make config. If you also wish to configure every dependency, use make config-recursive. This is useful when you wish to run a port build without attending every few minutes to press OK at the option dialogs that pop up. There are a lot more useful options in the manpages. Try man ports. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: /dev files keep no permissions
herbs wrote: Hi Daemons, I wonder whats wrong there: I need to change the permissions from /dev/speaker 600 to /dev/speaker 666 --all works ok. Then I reboot the computer and the permissions of the file is back to 600. How to make it permanent? Is is normal that /dev files do what they want? Yes :) The /dev filesystem is dynamic, it is recreated at every boot. For your setting to persist, enter it in /etc/devfs.conf The examples in there will help you out, although probably this is the line you need: perm speaker 0666 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Announcing: FreeBSD 8.0-RC1 Custom XFCE build available
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hey all, For everyone who has been following my little project here: http://freebsd-custom.wikidot.com I am now pleased to announce the immediate availability of an 8.0-RC1 based XFCE custom DVD iso (i386 only). Here are the direct download links: http://freebsd.dev-urandom.com/iso/i386/xfce-desktop/FreeBSD_8.0-RC1-XFCE-22092009.iso Checksum and signature files: http://freebsd.dev-urandom.com/iso/i386/xfce-desktop/FreeBSD_8.0-RC1-XFCE-22092009.iso.CHECKSUM.MD5 http://freebsd.dev-urandom.com/iso/i386/xfce-desktop/FreeBSD_8.0-RC1-XFCE-22092009.iso.CHECKSUM.SHA256 http://freebsd.dev-urandom.com/iso/i386/xfce-desktop/FreeBSD_8.0-RC1-XFCE-22092009.iso.asc Please note this is a test build of pre-release software, so treat accordingly. It has only been tested in VMWare so far, but I am about to install as my main desktop soon as first tests were promising. Make sure to read the README file: http://freebsd.dev-urandom.com/iso/i386/xfce-desktop/README-8.TXT as it contains important information on installation. Note this release includes the latest openoffice 3.1.1 as well as abiword / gnumeric for those who prefer them. Gnash has been dropped (linux flash plugin works very well now) and avant-window-navigator is also included (but is untested). Latest versions of well known packages (gimp, inkscape, evince, firefox35 etc) are included as well. As always, please report any problems, success stories, comments and criticisms to mano...@freebsd.org Thanks and happy FreeBSDing! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkq4um8ACgkQZ/MxGm4PtJR6CACeJO1PlVUOhutRFFPG5qduH1bE As0AnR+CMYiMP0fhyPEwFgTDjhtVnoKP =AcpI -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: freebsd-update problem 8.0Beta1 to 8.0Beta4
Fernando Apesteguía wrote: 2009/9/20 Fernando Apesteguía fernando.apesteg...@gmail.com: Hi all, I'm having some problems trying to update from FreeBSD 8.0 Beta1 to 8.0 Beta4. I upgraded from 7.2 to beta1 some time ago, using freebsd-update without problems. Later I did the same thing to reach beta2. Yesterday I tried it to get to beta3 but I have a bunch of errors like this one: /usr/sbin/freebsd-update: cannot open files/.gz: No such file or directory This is after the preparing to download files stage. I have plenty of disk space left on my hard disk. In an attempt to fix the problem I performed a rollback, so I went to beta1 again. This process seemed to work fine. However, whenever I try to upgrade to another higher release number, I get those errors. Listing the contents of the /var/db/freebsd-update/files/ directory shows a bunch of .gz files. What can be wrong? I've googled, but I haven't been able to find a solution. Any help? Thanks in advance. Nobody on this issue? I've seen more people asking about this[1][2] but I couldn't find a solution. I made a back up of the /var/db/freebsd-update directory and renamed the files and merge directories. freebsd-update created them again, actually downloaded a bunch of files, but I got exactly the same error. I followed exactly the same procedure (described in the handbook) to go from 7.1 to 7.2 then to 8.0BETA1 and finally to 8.0BETA2. What is wrong with freebsd-update? If I did something wrong, how can I roll it back? Thanks for your time. [1] http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-questions@freebsd.org/msg214707.html [2] http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-January/190664.htm I encountered this once, and was not able to solve it, see here: http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-questions@freebsd.org/msg186677.html It was definitely not a disk / partition free space problem and it manifested itself moving from RC to RELEASE. In the end, I did a binary upgrade from CD. It has behaved ever since. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Help me during Kernel Complie Command Error - make buildkernal KERNEL=KIMHYUN_KERNEL
Kim Hyun wrote: help me~my configuration kernel file is failed. my os is FreeBSD 7.2 Release my notebook's model is Compaq Evo N150 memory ram is 311M cpu is Intel pentium III (800.04-MHz 686-class CPU) executig command === make buildkernal KERNEL=KIMHYUN_KERNEL ... ... /usr/src/sys/dev/fxp/if_fxp.c:87:23: error: miibus_if.h: No such file or directory mkdep: compile failed *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KIMHYUN_KERNEL. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 You need 'device miibus' for fxp. Uncomment this line in your configuration file. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD commands... refcard
Matthias Apitz wrote: Hello, In some Linux mailing list of Cuba I'm subscribed to, I just stumbled over this Debian GNU/Linux Reference Card: http://xinocat.com/refcard/ which is available in many languages. This would be very helpfull for my wife which 'must' ( :-)) run FreeBSD on her laptop. Is there something like this for FreeBSD, and even in Spanish? Thanks matthias It wouldn't be difficult to do something similar. Looking at the Greek version of the debian card, most commands are basic ones with similar function in FreeBSD. We could replace the apt-get section with commands from the ports system and pkg_* and the /etc/init.d/ section with /etc/rc.d and /usr/local/etc/rc.d. I'll try to make up an initial English version this weekend. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Custom ISOs
Tim Judd wrote: I'm not sure if this is normal or not, but I'm getting 5.0KB/sec for two separate downloads each download speed for both the XFCE and Gnome DVD ISOs. Weird... I am aware that the site is sitting on wikidot.com, and not on dev-urandom.com anymore, I was wondering if there's a better place I can grab them from. I have someone interested in BSD, and was trying to download all options and let him pick. Not really. Only the web pages are on wikidot, the files are still hosted in dev-urandom.com With this download, it'll take ME a day or more to download it, then the time to meet up with this guy. Any light shed on the slow downloads? Don't know, but if it is not resolved I'll ping Glen Barber who owns this space. I can't test the speed right now myself but will do later and report back. I do have some alternate space as well, so if the worse comes to the worst, I could upload one of the ISOs there. It is currently mostly full but I believe I can trash some things. Thanks again, Manolis for ALL your hard work, it is very much appreciated. Thanks Tim, I thoroughly enjoyed creating this stuff. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Custom ISOs
Al Plant wrote: Manolis Kiagias wrote: Tim Judd wrote: I'm not sure if this is normal or not, but I'm getting 5.0KB/sec for two separate downloads each download speed for both the XFCE and Gnome DVD ISOs. Weird... I am aware that the site is sitting on wikidot.com, and not on dev-urandom.com anymore, I was wondering if there's a better place I can grab them from. I have someone interested in BSD, and was trying to download all options and let him pick. Not really. Only the web pages are on wikidot, the files are still hosted in dev-urandom.com With this download, it'll take ME a day or more to download it, then the time to meet up with this guy. Any light shed on the slow downloads? Don't know, but if it is not resolved I'll ping Glen Barber who owns this space. I can't test the speed right now myself but will do later and report back. I do have some alternate space as well, so if the worse comes to the worst, I could upload one of the ISOs there. It is currently mostly full but I believe I can trash some things. Thanks again, Manolis for ALL your hard work, it is very much appreciated. Thanks Tim, I thoroughly enjoyed creating this stuff. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ## Aloha, Download was fine from here in Hawaii when I have used it in the past. I have a 1.5 DSL circuit down. Hawaii is not the fastest place on the planet usually. I would check Tim's provider side. I know of several mainland friends who have slow cable TV lines. Hope you find the issue and can get it resolved. And I can confirm that it maxes out my connection here. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: netbooks for freebsd?
Al Plant wrote: Jeff Hamann wrote: I would like to try some experimental software on a netbook. Can somebody recommend a netbook that can do FreeBSD. Requirements: 1) Need to able to wipe out any ms-windows stuff, get installed, boot up and running within 60 minutes of my time. Download, svn checkouts, etc. not included. I've tired of spending weekend marathons for fun 2) Normal user will boot up in graphical interface, connect to net, etc. without anything other than one finger (touchpad?) I'm thinking this is a normal end-user requirement. 3) $200 even possible? 4) hook up gps units? cronjobs? Am I dreaming? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Aloha, I installed Manolis desktop (DVD) on a sandisc and it works fine from a USB port on an HP 1000 mini netbook. (The netbook has Ubuntu Linux on the internal drive BTW). So I figured it would work with another UNIX. http://freebsd-custom.wikidot.com/downloads-page Aspire One (the original one) also works nicely with FreeBSD. If buying a newer model it is best to check it at a shop display or stg, since the hardware has changed and some models may be incompatible (esp. check video card and wireless chipset. The original one is equipped with Intel 950 and an Atheros wireless. Avoid models with the Z520 - Z530 atom cpu. Go for an N270-280 model). The biggest problems with running FreeBSD on such a device (at least in my opinion) are: - Suspend and resume not working. Using powerd though, battery time is quite good - CPU is underpowered so forget compiling ports on it (the occasional small port is OK, larger stuff is a no go). Kernel compilation takes 55 minutes on the One. A quick note on the XFCE DVD: I will be releasing a version based on FreeBSD 8, soon after 8.0 is released. I will also rerun a 7.2 build at about the same time. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: howto install virtualbox
Mark Stapper wrote: Hello, I'm currently migrating my home desktop from Gentoo linux to FreeBSD 8.0(Beta but it'll be Stable soon. Using RELENG_8 btw). I'm kind of a OS collector/nut/geek/nerd. As such virtualization is quite important to me. I've been using VMware Server 2.x on Gentoo for quite some time and, apart from the new console *barf*, it's been working for me so far. So needless to say I was hoping for vmware support. Tough luck... Ow well, the handbook spoke of virtualbox support. Only OSE, but still, better than nothing. After trying virtualbox on windows(at work) I decided to give it a go on FreeBSD amd64... Issuing make install in the virtualbox directory complained about me not having any 32-bit libraries installed. My questions are two fold: 1. Which options do I have when it comes to vritualization on FreeBSD 8 amd64? 2. How do I install virtualbox on amd64? Thanks, Mark I don't have a suitable amd64 system to test, but apparently virtualbox on amd64 requires this option to be built into the kernel: COMPAT_IA32 for latest info check the wiki page, as virtualbox is under heavy development: http://wiki.freebsd.org/VirtualBox ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: glxgears on 8.0 current
Anton Shterenlikht wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 03:04:14PM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: In many online articles I've seen suggestions to use glxgears to check whether OpenGL is installed correctly. I've libGL-7.4.4 and mesagl-mangled-5.0.2 installed on FreeBSD 8.0-BETA2 ia64 but cannot find glxgears. What am I missing here? forgot to say that I need to check OpenGL because I have some problems with port science/paraview, which depends on libGL, and probably on mesagl, via VTK. many thanks Just install graphics/mesa-demos ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman)
Al Plant wrote: Bernt Hansson wrote: Matthew Seaman skrev: Mark Stapper wrote: In light of this, I would really enjoy seeing a Ubuntu like movement in the FreeBSD corner. What I mean is that it would be nice for my mother to install and use FreeBSD. It's called PC-BSD. Have a look at Manolis Kiagias work at http://freebsd-custom.wikidot.com/downloads-page Haven't tried it my self, but it seems I'm going to. Aloha, Manolis download worked for me. I used it to install a 7.2 FreeBSD on a Sandisk Flash stick. And I can bring it up from the USB port on my netbook. Works fine except for printing on network. Have to work on setting up the printcap properly. Thanks for the mention ;) I should however note that although this work takes out most of the compiling steps (and I plan to expand the range of pre-built packages soon), it is still not a common man's OS, as all the configuration steps are manual. I am also developing some shell scripts that will automate a considerable part of post-setup configuration, but these will need to be tweaked accordingly. It will never become a CD you can give to your dad to install, but will certainly reduce the time an intermediate / seasoned FreeBSDer will need to install a new desktop. There are more than a few things that prevent FreeBSD from becoming friendly to a non-expert, non-willing-to-study-docs user. PC-BSD deals with many of them (preinstalled NVidia, flash support, PBI system) and it gets better all the time. Although if the point is getting a simple user to move away from Windows, most any desktop oriented linux distro will probably do the job. Such a user won't need to have all the choices and absolute control that FreeBSD provides to all of us. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD for the common man(or woman) (was: upgrade 7.2
James Phillips wrote: Put another way: I want a reliable, backed-up file-server before playing around on my workstation that would be a separate computer. I want to build myself a sand-box so I don't have to worry about breaking stuff that is unrelated. Another way of asking the question: How much of a learning curve is configuring FreeBSD (for Samba, NFS, DVD burning (backups) expected to be? Am I reading too much because of a learning disability, or do I really need to read and understand that much detail? I have some experience with Dos/Windows, and Linux (mainly Debian based). Windows experience won't help much - mainly due to the fact Windows forces the users (and admins) to a completely different way of thinking than FreeBSD. The various wizards abstract way too many parts of the system, to the point where you can configure services you don't really understand (i.e. a DNS server is a few clicks away and there are many 'recommended' defaults along the way). This is mostly not possible in FreeBSD. You do need some level of understanding before making a particular feature to work, though you are not expected to be an expert on the subject. The level of course varies with the feature (sendmail is orders of magnitude more difficult than NFS). Linux experience will definitely help. Watch out for Linux-specific docs and differences in commands. Getting on with your questions: NFS is part of the base system. It is easy to configure and works with Linux clients as well. Read section 29.3.2 here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/network-nfs.html Samba is a port you can install from net/samba3. Some simple instructions are provided, section 29.9.2: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/network-samba.html The main settings file, smb.conf, can probably be used with little to no changes from a Linux machine (if you have one configured). Don't forget to use pdbedit to add samba users (this is documented in the handbook) For DVD burning (from the command line, I assume) use the sysutils/dvd+rw-tools port. If using an atapi burner, load the atapicam driver at startup by adding atapicam_load=YES to /boot/loader.conf. This will create a /dev/cd0 from your /dev/acd0 device (it emulates a SCSI device). Then use the instructions in 18.7.3: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/creating-dvds.html You can definitely start testing these in a virtual machine or test system and come back with any questions. And take your time reading the docs and actually understanding the way the system works. This will make you a lot more confident. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: What is Freebsd 7.2pX
David Southwell wrote: Where is information about 7.2pX to be found on freebsd.org? I am running freebsd 7.2 64 amd 7.2-RELEASE #0: Fri May 1 07:18:07 UTC 2009 r...@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 version on Intel quad core and was advised to upgrade to 7.2pX but have not found about such a version from the web site and a google search for freebsd 7.2pX produces no documents. Thanks in advance David 7.2-RELEASE-pX where X is a number representing the current patch level, for example 7.2-RELEASE-p2. When you are running a release version of FreeBSD, updates to the base system include only security and critical patches. You can get the current -p version by using the freebsd-update utility: # freebsd-update fetch install depending on whether a kernel update is included, a reboot may or may not be needed (it will be needed in your case). For more details about the different available versions of FreeBSD and the use of the freebsd-update utility, please read Handbook's Chapter 24, esp. section 24.2.2: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD on E4200/E4300
Albert Shih wrote: Le 28/07/2009 à 10:27:04+0200, Matthias Apitz a écrit El día Tuesday, July 28, 2009 a las 10:17:02AM +0200, Albert Shih escribió: Hi all Anyone have try to install FreeBSD (any version) on Dell E4200 or E4300 ? If someone already do, can he tell me what's working and what's not working. Hello Albert, The place to look (and make entries) is here: http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/ I run a Dell Precision M4400, not sure how close this is to your E4200 or E4300; you might check all Dell boxes there and mine is: http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/index.html?action=show_laptop_detaillaptop=12868 Thanks for the tips. Another question : I've access (but I can't install anything) a E4200 computer. How can I check what's is supported by FreeBSD ? www.freesbie.org don't answer (maybe the project is stop). Is they are another livecd or something like that ? Regards. Assuming there is windows installed in it, just check the device manager for entries like wireless, vga, sound etc. Then have a look at the hardware notes here: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.2R/hardware.html to see if these devices are supported. Another thing to try: Boot from the FreeBSD DVD or the livefs iso (ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386/7.2/7.2-RELEASE-i386-livefs.iso), go to the Fixit option and select to use the live filesystem. Once you get to a console try a few things like dmesg -a to see what the kernel has recognized. Also look for problems like ACPI error messages and the like. At this point it is probably worth to try this with a FreeBSD 8.0 livefs, as it will probably support hardware than 7.2 does not. Many recent laptops have wireless chipsets that are not yet supported in FreeBSD. Take a look at the bottom side to see if an easy access to the wireless mini-PCI express card is provided. You can then easily exchange the card if needed. Atheros-based cards are sold on ebay for a few bucks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: freebsd-update: from 7.1-STABLE to 7.2-RELEASE?
Axel wrote: Hello, I have previously kept my machine updated by fetching the STABLE branch using csup and rebuilding the kernel. (As described in Handbook chapter 24.7) From now on, I want to use freebsd-update to simplify the process and follow the RELEASE branch (+patches) instead. But it seems that freebsd-update cannot help me upgrade from 7.1-STABLE to 7.2-RELEASE. Any tips on how to make the transition to RELEASE? freebsd-update can take you from one very specific point of FreeBSD to another. For example, RELEASE to RELEASE or BETAx to RELEASE. If you follow STABLE, there is no such defined point hence you cannot use freebsd-update to go from STABLE to RELEASE. For your case, use the csup / rebuild method one more time to get to 7.2-RELEASE. After that you can start using freebsd-update to upgrade from one release to the next. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: scontrib
Brett Wiggins wrote: Hi, Depending on what you want to do with accessing the source code, it may be valid to say that you can leave out scontrib, but as far as I remember, it will be needed for building things from the source code (make vuildworld and buildkernel). I want to be able to read and compile the source. I have looked at ftp://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-Archive/old-releases/i386/ but am unable to find an iso and am not sure how to make a iso or install cd from what is provided. I have installed the system minus scontrib and it boots ok. Would I be able to get the full source from the ftp-archive, exctract it to my FreeBSD system and then re-build and install the system? thanks, Brett. How about this? ftp://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-Archive/old-releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/5.2/ You may be able to get the iso from alternate places too. And as Glen said you can get the sources from SVN. In fact, you can get the sources from CVS without trying to install an SVN client. You will need the cvsup-without-gui package as csup was not in the base of 5.2 AFAIK. There is a ready package for 5-STABLE here: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5-stable/net/cvsup-without-gui-16.1h_3.tbz though I am not certain if this will run in 5.2. You will also need a supfile similar to this (you may wish to change host to something closer to you) *default host=cvsup10.FreeBSD.org *default base=/var/db *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5_2_0_RELEASE *default delete use-rel-suffix *default compress src-all ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Missing man pages: gnupg
Daniel Underwood wrote: Coming from Linux, I'm accustomed to using gpg. I installed the gnupg port (which I assume is virtually the same as Linux gpg). Doing $ man gnupg returns nothing. Doing $ which gnupg reveals that the port (or at least the binary) is in fact installed. But where are the gnupg man pages? If truly not installed, how can I install them? In general, how does one deal with missing man pages? One reason I left Linux (*officially* yesterday) is fragmented documentation. So this is extremely important to me. TIA, Daniel Though the port is named security/gnupg1 (or security/gnupg for gnupg v2), the actual command to use is gpg. So please try man gpg. I am using gnupg1 and the documentation is installed with the port. I assume the same is true for gnupg v2. $ whereis gpg gpg: /usr/local/bin/gpg /usr/local/man/man1/gpg.1.gz ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD for a high school class? (long)
Brent Bloxam wrote: Chris wrote: The course is HTML. Mouse button operations should be close, a window that gives a simple file directory and a text editor that doesn't require learning a character command set would be the target. Hi Chris, Maybe look at using Xfce, which is a lightweight window manager based on GTK+ and is available in the ports tree and as a package (from the machine specs, I assume you'll be installing packages). The theme you use for it will impact performance as well, but the default should be fine. For text-editing you can try Mousepad (http://www.xfce.org/projects/mousepad/) and Thunar (http://www.xfce.org/projects/thunar/) for file management I second XFCE. I've built similar FreeBSD machines and it will work just fine with 256MB RAM. You may also use some other lightweight manager (fluxbox and the like) although these will not provide needed features (like a file manager) unless you install additional ports. To get a more Mac OSX look you may wish to install x11/wbar. As for text editing, I find www/bluefish very nice for HTML. It supports a number of nice features for HTML and is really very easy to use. Since you will be installing lots of underpowered machines, I would suggest you install one and use dump / restore to copy the installation to the other disks. shameless-advertising Have a try with my custom XFCE-based DVD at http://freebsd-custom.wikidot.com /shameless-advertising ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: replacing harddisks
pepe wrote: I have gmirror of two 200GB disks where I have whole /usr f my freebsd 7.2 system. root, /var and /boot are on other disk, but I need to replace those both disks with bigger ones now. To get bigger /usr. So what I'm wondering now is if there is way to take one disk out of mirror (geom) and add bigger. So it would be one 200g and one 640g. If you add the 640G in the 200G mirror, it will be used as a 200G. And after sync replace other 200g with 640g so there would be two 640g disks. What I don't know is if mirror would still be original 200g or can I get it working full 640g this way? Or do I need to do it some harder way? Like adding both disks, creating mirror of them, copy original mirror with dd to new one and then removing old disks? There are probably a couple of way to achieve this, but I would add the new disk as a standalone one, copy (rather dump) contents from the array to it, disconnect the older array, create a gmirror on the new disk, and finally connect the second new disk and resync. You don't need to add both new disks at the same time (you may not even have enough sata connectors) and you don't even have to leave both of the original mirror disks connected while copying the data. It will still work the same if the original array is degraded. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Failing to show 'Password:' prompt
This morning my server was unresponsive both from ssh and through http. The only thing that is different on this system on a 1st of month, is a dump job that runs through periodic (on a mostly inactive system). Visiting the console, I discovered the system was still up and displaying login prompt on all vtys, but after typing a username, the password prompt would never appear. Keyboard was responsive and I could even switch between keyboard layouts (English/Greek). Plugging and and unplugging an external USB drive, showed the kernel messages on tty0. Still, I could not get it to display a password prompt and had to hard reboot it. I can't find anything in /var/log/messages either - it stops at 5.25 in the morning. And the dump was not performed either (and there are no traces about it in the log). What kind of crash could cause the password prompt to not display? Ideas? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Failing to show 'Password:' prompt
Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: Manolis Kiagias wrote: This morning my server was unresponsive both from ssh and through http. The only thing that is different on this system on a 1st of month, is a dump job that runs through periodic (on a mostly inactive system). Visiting the console, I discovered the system was still up and displaying login prompt on all vtys, but after typing a username, the password prompt would never appear. Keyboard was responsive and I could even switch between keyboard layouts (English/Greek). Plugging and and unplugging an external USB drive, showed the kernel messages on tty0. Still, I could not get it to display a password prompt and had to hard reboot it. I can't find anything in /var/log/messages either - it stops at 5.25 in the morning. And the dump was not performed either (and there are no traces about it in the log). What kind of crash could cause the password prompt to not display? Ideas? Geia Manoli, A deadlock somewhere in the filesystem code would expose such behavior. Other subsystems may continue to work, but some operations, somehow related to that filesystem code, will wait - forever - for some locks to be released. I've seen such behavior in early RELENG_6 branch with regard to UFS snapshots. Nikos Thanks Niko, This is quite possible actually as I was using dump -L and the USB backup disk was still mounted when I looked at the console messages. I'll check the PR database for dump-related problems. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Cloning to different disks.
Grant Peel wrote: Hi all, I have serveral machines that are running different versions of FreeBSD. Each machine only has 1 hard disk, but they all have a CD ROM and USB available. I have built a pristine system with all packages and ports installed that I need. I am now wanting to clone this to all the machines. The dificulty being that they all have various Disk sizes and interfaces (i.e. SCSI 3, SAS, etc). I am wondering how everyone else might handle this situation. BTW, The new build uses a standard Generic kernel, i386 build. I was thinking of: Booting with a live CD, refdisking, labeling, then using dumps from memory stick. Comments please, -Grant Done that and it works. Don't forget also to install the boot blocks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Cloning to different disks.
Grant Peel wrote: Thanks Sir! What is the easiest way to make sure the new disk is bootable. Also, it just occured to mewe have a few different versions of SCSI drives SCSI-2 SAS etc. Can I assume the the da driver will handle all these OK...ie. should not see any fstab problems? -Grant For fstab, I would consider labelling the partitions (see http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/geom-glabel.html esp. the example at the end of the section). I am not very familiar with SCSI disks, but all should appear as 'da', the only problem is whether the drivers for the specific SCSI adapters are already in GENERIC. Otherwise, you would need to load them as modules or compile them in a custom kernel. To make sure your new disk is bootable: # fdisk -B -b /boot/boot0 /dev/da0 (use actual device name of course) or if you just need a standard MBR (no custom F1 ... F2 boot menu at start): # fdisk -B -b /boot/mbr /dev/da0 Then install boot1 and boot2 in your boot slice: # bsdlabel -B /dev/da0s1 For more information, see this handbook section: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/boot-blocks.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
ANNOUNCE: Custom GNOME-based FreeBSD iso released
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hey all, Continuing the effort in producing custom FreeBSD builds, I am pleased to announce a GNOME-based one. This includes a complete GNOME 2.26.2 desktop and also the gnome-power-tools and gnome-fifth-toe package collections. *Important:* There appears to be a problem with the package INDEX on the DVD that I have not been able to solve: Two packages are not selected as dependencies, although they are actually needed: * djbfft - Required for gnumeric * libdvdcss - Required for gnome multimedia packages (and yes I realize this package is probably in the 'grey area') Please select these packages manually from the All menu in Sysinstall's package selection screen. Failing to do so may cause installation of other packages to fail. Note this is a problem only if you install packages using Sysinstall. It is possible to install packages using pkg_add while in the /cdrom/packages/All directory without any problem. I did attempt to correct these but could not find a solution that would not cause other packages to fail (or even sysinstall to segfault). I am open to suggestions to anyone that can have a look. Other than XFCE being replaced by GNOME, the two DVDs are otherwise identical in packages. The OpenOffice packages already present for XFCE will also work with this build (both builds were run from the same ports tree). The main download page is: http://freebsd-custom.wikidot.com/downloads-page As always, feedback is welcome. Manolis Kiagias -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkpKICQACgkQZ/MxGm4PtJTW9gCcDhbo0J6uec1pQJHj/WUf91ui LHgAniVQONez3WkuwHiYUw0UjTeeSAq/ =rESc -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ANNOUNCE: Custom GNOME-based FreeBSD iso released
ras wrote: Manolis Kiagias wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hey all, Continuing the effort in producing custom FreeBSD builds, I am pleased to announce a GNOME-based one. hi, is this like a normal freebsd install + gnome, or OS with custom system setup, automatic updates and such? (either is fine, not complaining, just curious before i dl) Yes, like standard FreeBSD disc, sysinstall and all. The only differences are a) the selection of packages (different - more recent versions) b) the base system is 7.2-RELEASE-p2 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: DHCP using ral
Robert Hall wrote: I'm trying to set up a connection between an FBSD box and a wireless access point. The background is that there's no security on this network; as the person who set it up says, You just start your computer and it works! I have an XP box with a wireless NIC working, but I don't want to use the XP box as the gateway for my personal lan to an insecure network. On the XP box, if I point a browser to 192.168.1.1, I'm told that the router is WRT54GX2, which I take to be a popular Linksys router. I don't have physical access to the router and I don't have the password for the router. I've got a wireless Linksys NIC that uses the ral driver facing the wireless router. The NIC facing my lan uses the em driver and is working fine. uname -a says FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE #0. In rc.conf I have ifconfig_ral0=DHCP After booting, if I ping 192.168.1.1, I get no route to host and I have no lease file in /var/db. ifconfig ral0 tells me that I have no inet address associated with ral0, status is no carrier, and the ssid is an empty string. dhclient ral0 sends a series of DHCPDISCOVER messages, but I get no DHCPOFFER messages, and I get an empty lease file. If I run ifconfig ral0 again, inet is 0.0.0.0, status is associated, and ssid is the proper ssid for the wireless router. ifconfig ral0 list scan gives the proper information for the router. At some point I did get a proper lease. I don't know when or how. I've never had a usable connection to the router from the FBSD box, and I've never had access to the nameservers listed in the lease. If I rename the old lease file to dhcp.leases.ral0, and then run dhclient ral0, I send 3 DHCPREQUEST messages, 2 DHCPDISCOVER messages, 2 DHCPREQUEST messages, and 6 DHCPDISCOVER messages. dhclient tells me that no DHCPOFFERs were received, and it binds to the address in lease file, 192.168.1.104. However, ifconfig ral0 shows no inet address. I still can't ping the router. ifconfig ral0 inet 192.168.1.104 netmask 255.255.255.0 assigns the specified values. Ping no longer tells me that there's no route to the host, but I'm getting about 95% packet loss. netstat -r now shows that link1 (ral0) is the gateway to 192.168.1.0. I still don't have a usable connection. resolv.conf says nameserver 192.168.0.1, which is the nameserver for my personal lan. I can't nslookup URLs outside of my lan. If I manually add the nameservers in the dhcp lease, I can nslookup www.google.com. But ping has 100% packet loss. /etc/hosts associates 127.0.0.1 with localhost.krig.net, and 192.168.0.6 with stamfordbru.krig.net, which is correct for my lan. I'm stumped. :) I don't know if this is related; the XP box is telling me that the router has no connection to the internet, but it obviously does have a connection because the XP box can load web pages and I can use my gmail account. Thanks for any help. I happen to have a Linksys router (not the same model though) and a Linksys pci card that uses the ral driver. Never had any problems, though I am not using DHCP. Here are a few manual steps to try: First off, try setting the ssid on the command line: ifconfig ral ssid Myssid Execute ifconfig by itself, and see if you get an associated message. (you may have to wait a minute before you do) If you don't, chances are the following will do nothing dhclient ral0 if this does not succeed, set an IP address manually: ifconfig ral0 inet 192.168.1.50 netmask 255.255.255.0 Before attempting to test the internet connection, add the router as nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf and don't forget to add the router's address as the default gateway: route add default 192.168.1.X From my experience, the important part is to get the associated message after the initial ifconfig. Not much hope otherwise. As an afterthought, is the XP machine on while you are trying to connect? If they are too close they maybe interfering. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: mysql error
thanos trompoukis wrote: Hi all, I am new with FreeBSD and I have a problem with mysql. I have 6.2Release i386 I am running mysql 5.0.27 and It worked perfectly until the time that I formated /tmp (for some other reason) and now when I am trying to connect on mysql *I get this:* *[r...@leonidas:/]$ mysql ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/mysql.sock2' (38)* Ha, I know this, it happened to me once I messed with tmp, and its pretty simple: /tmp has the sticky bit set. If you forget it, some programs fail mysteriously. So just do a chown -R root:wheel /tmp (just to be safe) and chmod -R 1777 /tmp and all will be fine ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: mounting network NTFS drive on FreeBSD
Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: Hello, I am trying to figure out how to mount a network NTFS drive (192.168.16.3\backups) on a FreeBSD system. Can you point me to the appropriate documentation? The Handbook mentions the mount command but I am not sure I can do it using mount? Or can I? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mount-unmount.html Thank you very much in advance! Zbigniew Szalbot Effectively, you will be mounting a Samba (SMB) share and not an NTFS drive (the latter would be the case if it were made available locally). See the man page for mount_smbfs ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: mkisofs in FreeBSD
Daniel Underwood wrote: Ahh, so searching the manpages at FreeBSD.org (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi) will provide only those entries pertaining to the base OS? Not if you select FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE and Ports Here is the man page you were looking for: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=mkisofsapropos=0sektion=0manpath=FreeBSD+7.2-RELEASE+and+Portsformat=html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: xfburn fails with 'Undefined symbol __malloc_lock'
Markus Hoenicka wrote: Hi, I've upgraded my laptop from 6.4 to 7.2-RELEASE. Essentially everything went fine, except that for some reason xfburn no longer works. If I install a package using portupgrade -f -PP, I see the following at runtime: mar...@yeti:/usr/home/markus# xfburn [1] 47214 mar...@yeti:/usr/home/markus# /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /lib/libpthread.so.2: Undefined symbol __malloc_lock If I build xfburn in the ports tree, I get the following error at compile time: /usr/bin/ld: warning: libcam.so.3, needed by /usr/local/lib/libburn.so, may conflict with libcam.so.4 /lib/libpthread.so.2: undefined reference to `__malloc_lock' I assume that I somehow managed to botch the 6-7 upgrade, but would anyone know how to fix this particular problem? regards, Markus Upgrading between major versions requires all installed ports to be rebuilt, so they get linked to the new versions of the libraries. I suppose you missed this step, older apps may still work but there is a problem installing new ones. Please see the instructions at the end of section 24.2.3 (portupgrade etc): http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html#FREEBSDUPDATE-UPGRADE These are still applicable even if you used the traditional source-based way of upgrading the base system (instead of freebsd-update) (AFAIR, if you upgraded via source, you will also need to run make delete-old-libs in /usr/src after successfully recompiling ports) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
ANNOUNCING: Web site for the FreeBSD Custom Releases project
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hey all, Most members of the list have probably noticed my latest posts on a project to create custom FreeBSD CD/DVDs with updated (or different) set of packages. There is also an ongoing effort to provide pre-compiled packages for larger applications like OpenOffice. Glen Barber, who is providing the space and bandwidth for the above, has also joined in the building process and created VirtualBox packages for download. I've so far received very positive feedback, and would like to thank everyone who took the time to send me comments, suggestions and appreciation ;) In order to have a central hub for easily locating the download files and receiving news about this project, I created a small wiki-based site: http://freebsd-custom.wikidot.com It contains just the essentials for now, but will expand with more material as the need arises. It will also contain announcements for new releases. Thanks for your support! Manolis Kiagias -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAko9DZsACgkQZ/MxGm4PtJSd6wCfYPtQ1MLH1ttDXF5C3lR3l+Kd JrwAn3l3fyeoEPXCC0tcu/yUcgwZ4IZR =Zhmd -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: portell breakage
Joshua Isom wrote: I recently upgraded my ports tree which included the python update. Everything went smoothly(except that openchrome on amd64 requires a hand patch), but now portell won't run. I can create a database, but all I get otherwise is: Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/bin/portell, line 93, in module main() File /usr/local/bin/portell, line 73, in main if d.has_key(portname): File /usr/local/lib/python2.6/shelve.py, line 107, in has_key return key in self.dict TypeError: argument of type 'bsddb.bsddb' is not iterable I've tried reinstalling python26 and portell, as well as seeing if a missing dependency of databases/py-bsddb was the cause to no avail. I haven't found anyone else having this error, so I'm not sure how to fix it. Has anyone else had this happen and know how to fix it? Same here. First I thought something went wrong with the python upgrade, but then checked in a clean vmware install and got the same results. Not sure about the fix, but this is either an incompatibility of portell with 2.6, or a python bug. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: diablo-jre16
Roy Stuivenberg wrote: Hello, I'm having a problem getting java to work on Firefox 2. diablo-jre16 latest version is installed. After about:plugins it doesn't show. Manual says to enter this as root, and so I do that. ln -s /usr/local/diablo-jre1.6.0/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so \ /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/ Then I get -- File exists !! I'm running 7.2 stable gnome2 Anyone encountered this problem too? Regards, Roy. Hi, For firefox 2.X, please try creating the symbolic link in /usr/local/lib/firefox/plugins, i.e: ln -s /usr/local/diablo-jre1.6.0/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so \ /usr/local/lib/firefox/plugins/ and restart your browser. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Compact Freebsd 'appliance'
Tim Judd wrote: On 6/18/09, John Almberg jalmb...@identry.com wrote: On Jun 18, 2009, at 4:14 PM, Tim Judd wrote: What kind of application? This is so we can gear a hardware that is powerful enough to power your application. Naming the application and/or website would be a good addition. It's main purpose is to fetch videos off a local server (i.e., on the same lan it's plugged into), convert them into flash videos, and upload them to a remote server. There will also be a small web application that will be used to manage the application. Why do we need this little box, at all? I.e., why can't the whole thing be done by a remote server? It probably could, but my client feels that this little box makes his service 'concrete' and easier to sell. It's something his customers can hold and marvel at. Marketing... go figure. I'm thinking something like the Intel BOXD945GCLF2D Intel Atom processor 330 Intel 945GC Mini ITX Motherboard/CPU Combo, might do the trick. -- John John, so I'd use a system board like you described in preference to all other boards that are referenced or called a embedded board. Video processing can be very CPU intensive, plus RAM intensive. I didn't actually look at that product you posted, but that would be the gear I would start looking at. I've read reports (and forgotten it's source since then) that some Intel Atom processors work well, some don't with FreeBSD. This was something I read within a couple months, so I would see if anyone here can provide input on pros and cons on weather that particular Atom model number is well received and well tested. Nothing like developing a product based on inadequate or crappy hardware OR support. Do lots of prototypes, that's the only sure way to test. --Tim There was a discussion on this a few days ago. I happen to have one of these Atom based systems, a Shuttle X27D: CPU: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz (1596.01-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = GenuineIntel Id = 0x106c2 Stepping = 2 Features=0xbfe9fbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE Features2=0x40e31dSSE3,DTES64,MON,DS_CPL,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,b22 AMD Features=0x2010NX,LM AMD Features2=0x1LAHF Cores per package: 2 Logical CPUs per core: 2 real memory = 2137915392 (2038 MB) avail memory = 2086662144 (1989 MB) ACPI APIC Table: Shuttl Shuttle FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP/HT): APIC ID: 1 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 2 cpu3 (AP/HT): APIC ID: 3 ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 4 ioapic0 Version 2.0 irqs 0-23 This works nicely with FreeBSD (needs only a sysctl setting to hush some messages on absurd temperature measurements - all onboard devices work). One disappointing thing about it: the one and only fan in the system failed about after a week of continuous operation. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Announcing: FreeBSD Custom XFCE ISO (take II) - Openoffice packages
Chris Whitehouse wrote: I would vote for including openoffice, it takes much longer to compile than to download, or maybe make the package and any dependencies that are not already included available as a separate tarball. I've implemented this neat idea, the tarball is here: http://freebsd.dev-urandom.com/iso/i386/xfce-desktop/openoffice.tar.gz Instructions: http://freebsd.dev-urandom.com/iso/i386/xfce-desktop/README.openoffice As a matter of fact, I noticed only the main openoffice package is needed - every other run dependency is already present in the XFCE iso. The few other packages in the tarball are build dependencies. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Announcing: FreeBSD Custom XFCE ISO (take II)
Andrew Gould wrote: 2009/6/16 Manolis Kiagias sonic200...@gmail.com: List of main packages == This is a comprehensive list of packages included in the ISO: abiword, archivers (zip, unzip, rar, unrar) bash, bluefish, cdrtools, dvd+rw-tools, evince, firefox3, gimp, gnash, gnumeric, gnupg, inkscape, mercurial, pkg_rmleaves, portaudit, portupgrade, rdesktop, rtorrent, ristretto, samba, scribus, sudo, thunderbird, tilda, wget, xfburn, xfce4 + plugins, xorg, zim. Would you consider adding unix2dos? Thanks Andrew Sure. I am making a list of what people would like to see included, and will add most of them in the next iteration. Small utilities like this are not a problem. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Announcing: FreeBSD Custom XFCE ISO (take II)
Robert wrote: On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:37:44 +0300 Manolis Kiagias son...@otenet.gr wrote: Andrew Gould wrote: 2009/6/16 Manolis Kiagias sonic200...@gmail.com: List of main packages == This is a comprehensive list of packages included in the ISO: abiword, archivers (zip, unzip, rar, unrar) bash, bluefish, cdrtools, dvd+rw-tools, evince, firefox3, gimp, gnash, gnumeric, gnupg, inkscape, mercurial, pkg_rmleaves, portaudit, portupgrade, rdesktop, rtorrent, ristretto, samba, scribus, sudo, thunderbird, tilda, wget, xfburn, xfce4 + plugins, xorg, zim. Would you consider adding unix2dos? Thanks Andrew Sure. I am making a list of what people would like to see included, and will add most of them in the next iteration. Small utilities like this are not a problem. First I want to say thank you. This is very welcome for my older slow laptop. That said. Have you considered Claws-Mail? Robert Will consider this too, thanks! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Announcing: FreeBSD Custom XFCE ISO (take II)
Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:37:44 +0300, Manolis Kiagias son...@otenet.gr wrote: Sure. I am making a list of what people would like to see included, and will add most of them in the next iteration. Small utilities like this are not a problem. Until someone jumps in and asks for Emacs, I guess :grin: Good job with the ISO images, Manoli :-) Hehe, thanks. Emacs and Vim should both be included actually. I wouldn't like my ISOs to burst up in flames ;) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Announcing: FreeBSD Custom XFCE ISO (take II)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hey all, This is a continuation of the effort that started with this post: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-May/198284.html This little project also found its way to Distrowatch Weekly news (Thanks!): http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20090615#news Since there was an update of the base system to 7.2-RELEASE-p1 a few days ago, it was a good chance to update this ISO and also include some newer packages. The new ISO may be downloaded from here (space and bandwidth courtesy of Glen Barber): http://freebsd.dev-urandom.com/iso/i386/xfce-desktop/7.2-RELEASE-p1-i386-disc1.iso Don't forget to check the integrity of the download using the CHECKSUM / signature files provided: http://freebsd.dev-urandom.com/iso/i386/xfce-desktop/7.2-RELEASE-p1-i386-disc1-iso.CHECKSUM.MD5 http://freebsd.dev-urandom.com/iso/i386/xfce-desktop/7.2-RELEASE-p1-i386-disc1.iso.asc The following tarball contains the options used to build the ports. The ports tree on the ISO is the actual one used to build the packages: http://freebsd.dev-urandom.com/iso/i386/xfce-desktop/options.tar.gz Note: Updated openoffice.org packages (from the same ports tree) will follow soon. Changes from the previous version == - - Wbar was removed. The package would install without problems but did not run. Please install this from ports. - - Some other small apps were introduced. See below. - - Base system was updated to 7.2-RELEASE-p1 - - Ports that use python now use python26. This was not done intentionally, the tinderbox built them that way. It delayed me however as the INDEX file (required in the release process) was still pointing to python25 dependencies and was causing errors. List of main packages == This is a comprehensive list of packages included in the ISO: abiword, archivers (zip, unzip, rar, unrar) bash, bluefish, cdrtools, dvd+rw-tools, evince, firefox3, gimp, gnash, gnumeric, gnupg, inkscape, mercurial, pkg_rmleaves, portaudit, portupgrade, rdesktop, rtorrent, ristretto, samba, scribus, sudo, thunderbird, tilda, wget, xfburn, xfce4 + plugins, xorg, zim. Several other packages are included as dependencies of the above top level ones. The total list of packages is 496. There are no conflicts between them, you may even install all of them during the initial setup or afterwards. I will start preparing a server ISO (CD sized) soon. I also welcome all ideas on what to include/exclude in later versions of this DVD. It has been suggested to include openoffice packages as abiword / gnumeric don't cut it for many people. This will increase the size of the download, although hopefully not dramatically as most dependencies are probably already included. I am all open to ideas, so please email me your suggestions and comments. Thanks, Manolis Kiagias -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAko3OA4ACgkQZ/MxGm4PtJRuvgCfYcOTk2whTnOekRqrBMJYjWZ3 tOcAnRF2Y1E14T/zFGOMBJk+v46tz2AN =VfqE -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Announcing: FreeBSD Custom XFCE ISO (take II)
Chris Whitehouse wrote: Manolis Kiagias wrote: Hey all, This is a continuation of the effort that started with this post: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-May/198284.html This little project also found its way to Distrowatch Weekly news (Thanks!): http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20090615#news Congratulations! Thanks! Since there was an update of the base system to 7.2-RELEASE-p1 a few days ago, it was a good chance to update this ISO and also include some newer packages. The new ISO may be downloaded from here (space and bandwidth courtesy of Glen Barber): http://freebsd.dev-urandom.com/iso/i386/xfce-desktop/7.2-RELEASE-p1-i386-disc1.iso Are you updating the name with each new iso? I've included the -p1 in this release. I haven't come up with a naming scheme yet but will do when I decide the intervals between releases. I will start preparing a server ISO (CD sized) soon. I also welcome all ideas on what to include/exclude in later versions of this DVD. It has been suggested to include openoffice packages as abiword / gnumeric don't cut it for many people. This will increase the size of the download, although hopefully not dramatically as most dependencies are probably already included. I am all open to ideas, so please email me your suggestions and comments. I would vote for including openoffice, it takes much longer to compile than to download, or maybe make the package and any dependencies that are not already included available as a separate tarball. The tarball idea is good and probably most dependencies are already in the iso, so it won't be huge. I'll investigate this, thanks! Any chance of x11-wm/icewm and maybe x11/idesk? icewm with config option BEASTIE :) Probably create a small WM collection CD with the likes of wmaker, afterstep, icewm, blackbox etc. Need to find the more popular ones. I've been between hardware for a while but I can offer some compile time if needed. Chris Compiling is not a problem, I've got a separate system for it. But can only do i386 releases - don't have suitable 64bit hardware. If you do, mail me and we can arrange something. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Announcing: FreeBSD Custom XFCE ISO (take II)
Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: I will start preparing a server ISO (CD sized) soon. I also welcome all ideas on what to include/exclude in later versions of this DVD. It has been suggested to include openoffice packages as abiword / gnumeric don't cut it for many people. This will increase the size of the download, although hopefully not dramatically as most dependencies are probably already included. I am all open to ideas, so please email me your suggestions and comments. I have not yet tried your CD so I do not know what is already on it. but I always like the following on my installs. Gvim (with Icon) I intend to include gvim. I simply need to pass options (like WITH_GTK2) and since it does not use the options framework it will be somewhat more difficult in tinderbox. Wireshark iperf filezilla These are all small ports and won't be a problem to include. a PDF reader of some sort Evince is already provided. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: what is the best way to remove a program?
Pieter de Goeje wrote: On Sunday 14 June 2009 14:58:46 Mark Hartkemeyer wrote: I was installing the mysql51-server port and I had a message that the install could not proceed, because mysql50-client was already installed. I simply ran a cd and then a make deinstall in the mysql50-client directory. Is this is the best way to remove a program? Does it depend on how the program was added (compiled versus prebuilt binary added with pkg_add -r)? I've tried pkg_delete in the past, but it seems to always complain about dependencies and not actually remove the program. Thanks, Mark Hartkemeyer make deinstall is a good way to remove a program, but it ignores dependencies as you discovered. Some other program on your system requires mysql50-client to function and might now be broken. pkg_delete -f does basically the same. pkg_deinstall (which comes with portupgrade) also does the trick. Before doing a make deinstall you can check which installed packages require it by: pkg_info -Rx mysql-client If you want to upgrade mysql-client from 5.0 to 5.1, use portupgrade: portupgrade -rf -o databases/mysql51-client mysql-client This will replace mysql50-client with mysql51-client and reinstall all ports depending on mysql50-client (-rf), so they will use the new version. In this case the last step probably isn't necessary because the libraries are (mostly I think) compatible, but in general it is recommended. For more information, see man ports and man portupgrade. For an easy interactive program that takes care of dependencies, I would suggest ports-mgmt/pkg_rmleaves ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 7.2 Installation Manual
n...@pettefar.com wrote: In www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-post.html It says: If the X server has been configured and a Default Desktop chosen, it can be started by typing startx at the command line. but nowhere in the manual or the installation program is there any information or options on X server configuration or choosing a Default Desktop! Help! Nick You've found the Handbook, so keep on reading! The information you need is on Chapter 5. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 7.2 Installation Manual
n...@pettefar.com wrote: Nowhere up to that point in the Installation chapter and process (I didn't need to have said) did it mention X. What is the point of having a step-by-step installation manual which then concludes with If the X server has been configured and a Default Desktop chosen, it can be started by typing startx at the command line. when up to that point it hasn't mentioned X!? Mentioning it three chapters later is not really very helpful to people struggling to get the thing installed step-by-step! The Handbook is not really intended to be a step by step guide, although some chapters serve this purpose in particular areas. The problem (and sometimes, the strength) of step-by-step how-to guides is that they provide specific instructions for specific setups. For example, if you were to write a Guide to a FreeBSD Desktop then obviously this info would appear immediately after the basic install. But bear in mind X is an optional component in FreeBSD, and there are plenty of installations (servers) that don't need it and don't have it. FreeBSD becomes what you want of it, it does not dictate a particular usage. When you install a popular linux distro (like Ubuntu or OpenSuse) you already have a fixed idea of what you will have after a standard install. This is much less so in FreeBSD but you have the power to customize it to your heart's content. This power comes at a price however: you will not be able to be immediately productive with your new system, until you master more than the basics. You have to be more patient, keep on studying and understanding how it works. This knowledge means your system will never break (because you will know how it works, and you will know how to fix it) and its also useful in other systems. (When you learn how X works you can solve GUI problems in Ubuntu too). Please keep up your effort, and be sure FreeBSD will reward you in the end. And we do take documentation very seriously, so please send comments. You are right it is sometimes easy to overlook things that a beginner may stumble upon. Step-by-step guides are difficult to write, especially be people that know a lot about the subject beforehand as details tend to get glossed over. When it doesn't work (as has happened to me) and you have to Ctrl-Alt-Del then you are left feeling lost and confused - a bit like Linux ten years ago. (OpenSuse installed and worked graphically perfect). Shouldn't there be an X configuration stage in the installation process? It would probably be nice to have at least a link to Chapter 5 here. I would suggest to replace this line: If the X server has been configured and a Default Desktop chosen, it can be started by typing startx at the command line. with something like: If a graphical desktop is desired, the Xorg server and a desktop environment / widow manager will have to be installed and configured. Please see section link to chapter 5 I could do it now, but I believe Glen would like to give it a try ;) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: problem writing to usb flash
leo wrote: I succesfully configure gnome 2.22 with gconftools-2 to automount flash drive: gconftool-2 -s --type bool /desktop/gnome/volume_manager/automount_drives true % gconftool-2 -s --type bool /desktop/gnome/volume_manager/automount_media true % gconftool-2 -s --type bool /desktop/gnome/volume_manager/autobrowse true and run the hald in daemon mode I suspect that I have ntfs, is there any utility in BSD for writing this fs Yes, ntfs-3g is available via the sysutils/fusefs-ntfs port. I don't know whether it will work out of the box with automounting though. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Make Question
Peter Clark wrote: Hello, I have inherited an old FreeBSD 5.1 machine(5.1-RELEASE-p18). I realize that the short answer to my question is more than likely to upgrade the OS to a current release and I would if I had that option right now, but I do not. I needed to upgrade the perl/openssh/openssl implementation on this box. My first thought was to use the port on the machine that was from that era but make fails. So then I thought to csup the ports tree and try with a new version, that fails as well. The error is as follows: 5.1 (in fact all 5.X) has reached EOL. The latest ports tree won't compile stuff for 5.X. Use the following line in your ports-supfile to get the last ports tree that was supported in 5.X: *default release=cvs tag=RELEASE_5_EOL instead of *default release=cvs tag=. Still, since this is going to be really old you may still have problems (missing distfiles and so on). But is worth trying if you must stay with 5.X for whatever reason. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: glabel(8) a gmirror(8) doesn't work
Valentin Bud wrote: On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: following procedure: 1. reboot to single user 2. mount -a 3. tunefs -L var /dev/mirror/system0s1d This commands exits with Failed to write superblock. replace mount -a with mount / you can't write directly to partition which is mounted mounted Thanks this time it worked. I am almost sure (99%) I've tried that already yesterday but the 1% wins. One more question can i label the / partition. I have the same error when i try to label it. v You should be able to. Just reboot into single user mode and *do not* enter any mount commands. The / partition is mounted read only in this case, and tunefs -L will succeed. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: glabel(8) a gmirror(8) doesn't work
dhaneshk k wrote: List members; http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/geom-glabel.html Starting with FreeBSD 7.2, the glabel(8) class supports a new label type for UFS file systems, based on the unique file system id, ufsid. Is the above clause applicable in this case ? instead of using tunefs -L can we use# glabel status ? and can use the ufsid labels of /dev/ufsid/and edit /etc/fstab entries for the partitions? Yes, exactly as noted in the Handbook's example. Still ufsid labels are not exactly 'memorable' ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Compiling in sound driver in kernel
Carmel wrote: This is my first attempt to compile in a driver in a new kernel I am attempting to build. Using loader.conf, I have the 'snd_hda' driver presently being loaded. I want to compile it directly into the kernel. I tried this: devicesnd_hda # Sound driver Unfortunately, the kernel will not build. What is the proper way to build a kernel with sound embedded into it? Thanks! Well, just add the following line too: device sound (This is automatically loaded too when the module is used) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Shutting down X with control+alt+backspace
Manolis Kiagias wrote: Luke Dean wrote: This is an answer to a question I started to post, but then decided to research instead. I know many readers of this list use the feature I'm describing. When Xorg was upgraded to version 7.4, the historic ability to shut down X with Control+Alt+Backspace became a non-default option. The solution to re-enabling this behavior was to add Option DontZap off to the ServerLayout or ServerFlags section of xorg.conf as documented in a note in the Handbook http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html A few days ago, x11/xkeyboard-config was upgraded to 1.6 and the solution in the Handbook is no longer sufficient. The new solution that gets Control+Alt+Backspace working for me again is to add Option XKbOptions terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp to the InputDevice section of xorg.conf. Thanks for mentioning this. I have not yet upgraded to the new version of xkeyboard-config, but will try this and update the Handbook accordingly. This gets even more complicated - the setting in xorg.conf will only be effective when AutoAddDevices is false (or AllowEmptyInput is false). On systems that totally rely on HAL for device detection, the setting has to be moved to an XML file like this: ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? deviceinfo version=0.2 device match key=info.capabilities contains=input.keyboard merge key=input.x11_driver type=stringkbd/merge merge key=input.xkb.Model type=stringpc105/merge merge key=input.xkb.Layout type=stringus/merge merge key=input.xkb.Rules type=stringxorg/merge merge key=input.xkb.Options type=stringterminate:ctrl_alt_bksp/merge /match /device /deviceinfo which should be named i.e. keyboard.fdi and placed in /usr/local/etc/hal/fdi/policy In light of the above, I feel we probably need to add a section on Configuring Additional Options Using HAL to the Handbook. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Shutting down X with control+alt+backspace
Wojciech Puchar wrote: can older Xorg server be used with just updated drivers? drivers are separate modules. Never tried, but the way Xorg is going this looks kind of frightening ;) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Shutting down X with control+alt+backspace
Luke Dean wrote: This is an answer to a question I started to post, but then decided to research instead. I know many readers of this list use the feature I'm describing. When Xorg was upgraded to version 7.4, the historic ability to shut down X with Control+Alt+Backspace became a non-default option. The solution to re-enabling this behavior was to add Option DontZap off to the ServerLayout or ServerFlags section of xorg.conf as documented in a note in the Handbook http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html A few days ago, x11/xkeyboard-config was upgraded to 1.6 and the solution in the Handbook is no longer sufficient. The new solution that gets Control+Alt+Backspace working for me again is to add Option XKbOptions terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp to the InputDevice section of xorg.conf. Thanks for mentioning this. I have not yet upgraded to the new version of xkeyboard-config, but will try this and update the Handbook accordingly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Opinion request about a file server
Valentin Bud wrote: Hello community, I have an old computer (ASRock P4Dual-915GL) with Intel P4 CPU at 3.0Ghz and 2Gb of RAM. I am asking the list maybe is somebody out there with a similar configuration and running FreeBSD on such a system as a File Server and Print Server using samba. What i mainly try to achieve, talking in storage space, is 2 HDD of 1TB in mirroring using gmirror(8) and 1 separate HDD of 500Gb. So do you think the system I've mentioned would handle the load? The server will be used by 4 people for storage of all sorts of files that can be found in Design and daily Office World (Photoshop, Illustrator, etc, Word Documents, etc). Thank you, v Got more than a few of similar systems, and have setup one very similar to this for a friend, primarily used as a Samba server: Pentium 4 2.8Ghz, (socket 478), 2GB RAM Two mirrors (1 Tb total capacity, 4X500Gb drives), using gmirror and gjournal Gigabit Ethernet He stores very large files (he is an avid photographer). Needless to say it works without problems and performance is very good. So, I'd say you can go ahead with your plan. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Opinion request about a file server
Wojciech Puchar wrote: This is one place where FreeBSD is very good. It will give you performance on slightly downlevel hardware that Windows Server just can't touch. is really pentium 4 downlevel hardware? sound like a joke to me. Not really. But considering how everyone is buying Core Duos and quads these days, you can get decent P4s for free. Not that I complain about it ;) Got three of them running and have donated few more. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: openoffice.org-3 compiling issue
Jason Helfman wrote: Hello, Newbie to FreeBSD here, however I have been studying like a madman, running it on my desktop, and administering systems on a daily basis so I've learned quiet a bit recently. I am trying to install openoffice.org-3 port, and am receiving the following error. 1 module(s): openssl need(s) to be rebuilt Reason(s): ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making /usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-3/work/BEB300_m3/openssl Attention: if you build and deliver the above module(s) you may prolongue your the build issuing command build --from openssl *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/editors/openoffice.org-3. At first I received this error, I was running -j5 with my make command, but after removing that I managed to get pass the initial error that included icu and ssl issues. All posts that look similar to the error I am having, have no replies to them. Thanks, Jason Which version of FreeBSD are you using? I am getting the above error trying to compile openoffice 3 on 8.0-CURRENT tinderbox (and I tried several times, updating to the latest current). It compiles normally on 7.2-RELEASE (haven't tested on stable). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: freebsd-update from 7.0 to 7.2
Dave wrote: Hello, I've got an older machine running 7.0. I ran freebsd-update upgrade on it to update it to 7.2, aftetr two reboots i'm still seeing 7.0 in the uname -r output. I did not get any errors during the download or installation of patches. The syntax for upgrading to a next version is slightly more involved, please read Handbook's section 24.2.3: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html#FREEBSDUPDATE-UPGRADE Is this a recommended upgrade path? Thanks. Dave. Yes ;) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: openoffice.org-3.01 packages available (i386)
Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrote: Hello, I have the package for openoffice 3.2m49 for the FreeBSD 7.2/amd64 available for the languages EN and pt_BR in UTF-8, with full support for cups. If you are interested, I can upload the package (120Mb) in the tinderbox. I think it is interesting for the FreeBSD community, as with this port, FreeBSD is much ahead then the Linux office package Thanks for your attention, Sergio Thank you Sergio! I currently don't have a suitable machine to run 64bit package builds, so my packages are currently limited to the i386 versions. If you have enough space and bandwidth to upload this somewhere please do. Otherwise, hopefully Glen Barber may be able to assist ;) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
X configuration (was: Re: hello)
Mike's Hotmail Account wrote: I am trying to install freebsd on my m-2625u gateway laptop but am running into trouble. whe I try to start x all I get is a black screen. I would try to configure the xorg file but I have no idea what my screen specs are. I know these questions are dumb but im kind of new to bsd. Please read the relevant Handbook section, 5.4.2: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/x-config.html To start a desktop like Gnome or KDE you will have to install the relevant packages and create an .xinitrc file. Please see section 5.7: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/x11-wm.html and also the FreeBSD web pages. For example, for Gnome see here: http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ANNOUNCE: OpenOffice.org 3.1 (i386) packages now available
Paul B. Mahol wrote: Are extensions working for you? After little exploration this is already known problem: ports/129308 Haven't tried extensions (rarely use any) but thanks for letting us know. Was this working on 3.01? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: What is this forum for?
Wojciech Puchar wrote: Forget the sports - I'm talking hot women here! Your part of the world seems to be turning them out at a high rate! Oh wait, this has nothing to do with FBSD like most post on that list. Even if you remove all mails classified as flamewars there is less than 10% about FreeBSD. Hardly ever started by anyone else than you, I fear... Or to use one of your weapons against you This is a matter of opinion only I've been subscribed to this list for quite some time. I've tried to help where I know, I've tried interesting stuff that people discuss here. I've learned more than a few tricks just by watching the threads. Questions and answers that appear here have often inspired me (and given me the info) to write or revise Handbook sections and articles. But as of lately it seems my time is wasted in this fruitless discussion. Everything else is about some apps support that just happen to be in ports - while question are completely non-FreeBSD specific and should go to this app mailing list. Yes. So please tell me why you are asking Xorg questions here. Surely by your standards this should go to the Xorg mailing list then. And yes, this is you a few threads back: Server 1.5.3 also really wants to configure its input devices via hald. This is causing some issues with moused and /dev/sysmouse. There are a couple of options for how to deal one more question - does it mean that it really wants or you don't have a choice at all. I'm asking to know if i have to make a copy of current Xorg servers in case of new installations. thank you very much Even more stupid - there are question about windows which is even less FreeBSD related. Well 10% is exaggerated, it's less. These are interoperability questions. Nobody here is asking Windows support questions. Not because there are not enough people here that could answer them (me included) but because it is really off topic. And will be even less within time, unless moderation will be started. Self moderation is the best discipline. If you feel the official FreeBSD lists are not good enough for your taste, you can always run your own. This list is just too much for me to bear at its present state. I will be turning off list delivery for a week, and I hope things will be calm again when I am back. Please all cool down. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: reducing Windows Vista to install FreeBSD dual-boot
Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Wednesday, May 06, 2009 a las 01:26:50PM +0300, Manolis Kiagias escribió: Matthias Apitz wrote: Hello, Maybe a bit off-topic (sorry for this). I've got a fresh Dell M4400 laptop with 250 GByte, pre-installed Vista on it. Is there a way to reduce the Vista to let's say 50 GByte and install FreeBSD -CURRENT in the remaining 200 GByte, just to have the Vista later for some investigations, or whatever? Thx If not I will scratch the Vista, install FreeBSD and later in the rest of 50 GByte the Vista again. matthias Sure, You can even reduce Vista's partition from Control Panel - Administrative Tools - Computer Management - Disk Management. Right click on the partition and select to shrink. The amount that it will allow you to shrink will vary (probably depends on the fragmentation) but I guess you will be able to get 50G on a 200G disk. Then install FreeBSD as usual, but do not allow it to install any boot manager (it will mess with Vista's BCD system). After installing, use EasyBCD (free download) within Vista to add FreeBSD to the boot menu. Meanwhile I'm running CURRENT in the 200 GByte and I'm nearly happy with all. I'm still waiting for the Atheros miniPCI Wifi to replace the unsupported Intel one with an Atheros AR5BXB6(AR5424). All other stuff is working fine now. Even the high-res display of 1920x1200 is now supported in the xf86-video-nv driver. Concerning EasyBCD, it tries always in unattended mode to boot the damn Vista and not the other FreeBSD partition which I have i 1st place in the boot menu, i.e. if you just switch on the laptop and go for coffee, you will find it Vista booted. :-( There is an option in EasyBCD concerning the default entry to boot. I would tell you the exact location, but due to recent developments (VirtualBox running on FreeBSD) I completely wiped Vista from my laptop ;) I am sure you will find it though. Is there no way to use the normal FreeBSD boot manager to switch between the partitions to boot? This used to be the case up until XP. Vista's boot loader is very fussy though, and it usually breaks if you do that. For peace of mind I'd recommend against it. Another solution would probably be to not use the boot manger at all but use disk management in Vista and fdisk in FreeBSD to set the active partition each time you need to change. I haven't tried this, but it should work. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Flamewar ( was: Sponsoring FreeBSD)
Glen Barber wrote: just another funny post - it's not an opinion, it's a fact BECAUSE YOU DECIDED SO. please post more :) You continuously do this. You post responses to posts that (as previously stated) scare off users and, in this case, a potential sponsor. You are then told that your reply was unnecessary and unwarranted, then you continue to post snide remarks and taunt those telling you that you are wrong. Thanks to your attitude, actions, and demeanor, I will be unsubscribing from this list. Glen: Please don't! And Wojciech, is there any way we can convince you to show a more positive attitude to the people on this list? I believe you have the capacity of helping people, why don't you show a little more positive energy. You do get really aggressive at times. Please take a few minutes to reconsider your answers before hitting 'Send'. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to remove redundant login in a FreeBSD live CD?
Unga wrote: Hi all I made a live CD based on FreeBSD 7.2. When the CD boots, it prompts for a login. Type root without password can log in. It seems this login is redundant. How to remove this redundant login? Best regards Unga I found this info in a text file of mine (copied from somewhere, but don't remember the source). I remember I used it once to create an autologin workstation for someone who really wouldn't want to know anything about usernames, password or this while unix type of thing. And as I recall it worked ;) 1. Add to the /etc/gettytab file the following strings: test:\ :al=test:ht:np:sp#115200: Explanation: test:\ - entry name, autologin will use this username; al=test - autologin username; ht - terminal has real tabs; np - 8-bit chars; (optional) sp#115200 - line speed; 2. Edit /etc/ttys file: ttyv0 /usr/libexec/getty test cons25 on secure Change 'Pc' with test. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
ANNOUNCE: OpenOffice.org 3.1 (i386) packages now available
Hey all, This is a continuation of an effort to offer pre-built packages for OpenOffice, that started with this post: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-April/195997.html With the release of OpenOffice 3.1, the new package and all dependencies were rebuilt, and are hosted on the same location as before: http://freebsd.dev-urandom.com/packages/openoffice/ The main package to download is: http://freebsd.dev-urandom.com/packages/openoffice/openoffice.org-3.1.0.tbz Everyone who installed the 3.01 packages should be able to easily upgrade to this version. It would be best to have an otherwise upgraded system before installing this package. Users who do not have any version of openoffice already installed, are advised to read the instructions in the post linked above. Please note these packages were built for 7.2-RELEASE, i386. You are of course welcome to send any comments, problems etc, either by mail or by replying to this thread. Thanks! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Can't play videos on 7.2
jery wrote: Hi, I am using Freebsd 7.2 my system hangs when playing videos, it's the same for vlc and totem. From the Xorg.0.log file intel: Driver for Intel Integrated Graphics Chipsets: i810, i810-dc100, i810e, i815, i830M, 845G, 852GM/855GM, 865G, 915G, E7221 (i915), 915GM, 945G, 945GM, 945GME, 965G, G35, 965Q, 946GZ, 965GM, 965GME/GLE, G33, Q35, Q33, Mobile Intel® GM45 Express Chipset, Intel Integrated Graphics Device, G45/G43, Thank you Rihaz If you haven't already, try upgrading the xf86-video-intel port to the latest version (I think 2.7.1). This seems to solve many problems with video playback. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Weird problem with gmirror - cannot add the Good disk when previously failed SATA disk is online
Achilleas Mantzios wrote: Hello, in advance sorry for the cross posting, it is just that freebsd-geom didnt seem that populated. I run 7.1-PRERELEASE, its a home server. today morning after a power failure, the rebuild my root gm0 failed on disk ad4. The messages were: May 18 08:02:02 panix kernel: ad4: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=268091264 May 18 08:02:08 panix kernel: drm0: Intel i865G GMCH on vgapci0 May 18 08:02:08 panix kernel: info: [drm] AGP at 0xf000 128MB May 18 08:02:08 panix kernel: info: [drm] Initialized i915 1.5.0 20060119 May 18 08:02:08 panix kernel: drm0: [ITHREAD] May 18 08:02:08 panix kernel: ad4: FAILURE - device detached May 18 08:02:08 panix kernel: subdisk4: detached May 18 08:02:08 panix kernel: ad4: detached May 18 08:02:08 panix kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0: provider ad4 disconnected. May 18 08:02:08 panix kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0: rebuilding provider ad4 stopped. It looks to me you got a bad disk now. I read http://www.eztiger.org/2008/08/removing-and-re-adding-a-disk-in-gmirror/ hoping that the rebuld failure was temprary and so i tried to just run # gmirror forget gm0 # gmirror insert gm0 ad4 But the system responded (if i remember correctly) Unknown provider ad4. The system no longer could see ad4 being online. So i rebooted the system many times and had these results: -When having put offline ad4 (disconnected by hardware), the system booted ok. -When having both disks online the system responded consistently with: GEOM_MIRROR: Cannot add disk ad6 to gm0 (error=22). Which IMO is not very ok, since gm0 should add ad6 without problem, no matter if ad4 is online or not. -When having only ad4 online, then it simply cannot find gm0 at all. (kind of reasonable) So my only option is to have only ad6 online, with a current gmirror status: panix# gmirror status NameStatus Components mirror/gm0 COMPLETE ad6 Anyone has an idea of how should i proceed (besides buying a UPS unit!) Is it meaningfull to go for a new Disk to replace current ad4? I'd recommend attaching the bad disk on its own to a system and perform tests on it. Is the BIOS recognizing this properly? I would run hardware tests on it - either manufacturer ones, or stuff like sysutils/smartmontools. You could also try installing FreeBSD on it and see if it works. And probably use dd to clean all the contents, esp. the partition table and the last sector where geom information is stored. Why is the presence of the supposed bad disk ad4, affecting gm0, when having already told gm0 to forget about ad4? The bad disk may be sending confusing signals to the bus / IDE interface. I've had this once (although it was due to a bad cable). The entire mirror would disappear suddenly. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: what is going to happend when installing a port
Martin Alejandro Paredes Sanchez wrote: Hi: I would like to know what other ports are going to be installed when I install a port When I installed krb5 I notice it build and install a lot of ports. maps There are a few things you can try from inside the port directory to see what else will get installed: make missing will show you the ports that are needed by the port you are about to build that are not currently installed You may also want to look these up using 'man ports': make all-depends-list make run-depends-list make pretty-print-run-depends-list make pretty-print-build-depends-list ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Announcing: FreeBSD custom build iso available
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hey all, I believe this list (and probably the forums) would be the best place to announce one of my little projects, namely the building of custom FreeBSD install discs (DVD sized for desktops, CD sized for servers) with the latest release and updated packages. I have been experimenting lately with 'make release' and ports' building using ports-mgmt/tinderbox. I am using a dedicated system for building the base system and packages. The purpose of this experiment (besides the educational value of it) is to allow me to build FreeBSD discs with custom and up to date packages. These will in turn reduce significantly the amount of time required to install new systems (esp. desktops which need hundred of packages). Glen Barber, who is also frequenting this list, has once again offered (as with the openoffice packages) lots of his webspace and bandwidth, allowing me to host the images so others can also benefit from this work. At this time, the first image is already uploaded and you can obtain it from this directory: http://freebsd.dev-urandom.com/iso/i386/xfce-desktop/ This is just short of 1GB and contains the following: - - FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE base system (standard bootable / installable disc) - - Selection of custom packages that can be installed either during installation via sysinstall or at a later time (again using sysinstall or pkg_add etc). Here is a short list of packages contained in this: abiword, aspell, bash, bluefish, cdrtools, dvd+rw-tools, firefox3, gimp, gnash, evince, gnumeric, gnupg1, inkscape, pkg_rmleaves, portaudit, portupgrade, rar, unrar, zip, unzip, sudo, ristretto, samba3, thunderbird, wbar, xfce4, some xfce4 plugins, xfburn, xorg, linux_base-fc4 Many other useful packages are also included as dependencies of the ones listed above. This iso does not contain openoffice (to keep the size smaller) and multimedia apps (to avoid licensing problems). Future versions of the builds may have broader / different selection of packages, depending on the feedback received by the community. Installation is no different than an official FreeBSD CD, other than when you reach the package selection screen, you will be shown the custom set of packages. The ports tree included in the CD is the one used to actually build the packages. I will soon upload a tarball with the options used - not all packages where built with the default options. When you finish downloading, I recommend checking the integrity of the file using the MD5 or SHA256 file that are also present in the download directory. An 'asc' gpg signature file is also present and can be used to verify the authenticity of the download. This is particularly important if you obtain the iso file from means other than the download link supplied here. It is signed with the same key as this email. Obviously I can built many different images (only 32bit for the moment though), like i.e. a GNOME or KDE4 version. I started up with XFCE since this is not provided by default in the official isos. I also intend to track the FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE security branch for the base system. Feedback, ideas, requests, criticism are all welcome. Please contact me via email. Thanks! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkoMgFoACgkQZ/MxGm4PtJSdoQCZAcCoft/pVTPMyj6Fm4Z9pMJ4 Kv4An2+ChNBDb1vyMIurznRgv21Tb8if =K/O7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: abiword wierdness
Andrew Gould wrote: I installed abiword from the 7.2-release binaries online. When I try to type, the cursor doesn't move forward and the characters are appearing on top of the previous characters. Is anyone else having this problem? Any suggestions? Thanks, Andrew It happened to me recently. I think it was fixed when I installed few true type fonts from ports. Try x11-fonts/webfonts, dejavu, urwfonts-ttf ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 7.2-RELEASE Xorg Problem
Fabian Krook wrote: I see, well i have done that in xorg.conf.new file (snice it didn't create any xorg.conf) the ctrl + alt + backspace doesn't seems to work even with X -config xorg.conf.new. 2009/5/9 Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk There are several changes in Xorg 7.4. Please read the updated handbook section: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html particularly section 5.4.2 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: reducing Windows Vista to install FreeBSD dual-boot
Matthias Apitz wrote: Hello, Maybe a bit off-topic (sorry for this). I've got a fresh Dell M4400 laptop with 250 GByte, pre-installed Vista on it. Is there a way to reduce the Vista to let's say 50 GByte and install FreeBSD -CURRENT in the remaining 200 GByte, just to have the Vista later for some investigations, or whatever? Thx If not I will scratch the Vista, install FreeBSD and later in the rest of 50 GByte the Vista again. matthias Sure, You can even reduce Vista's partition from Control Panel - Administrative Tools - Computer Management - Disk Management. Right click on the partition and select to shrink. The amount that it will allow you to shrink will vary (probably depends on the fragmentation) but I guess you will be able to get 50G on a 200G disk. Then install FreeBSD as usual, but do not allow it to install any boot manager (it will mess with Vista's BCD system). After installing, use EasyBCD (free download) within Vista to add FreeBSD to the boot menu. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Safe to 'make installkernel' in multi-user mode?
Modulok wrote: Just making sure I'm not brewing a disaster... Is it 'safe' to install a kernel (i.e. 'make installkernel') on a system while in multi-user mode? Thanks! -Modulok- Yes. But you should schedule a reboot shortly afterwards. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Using portsuprade only for security
Daniel Underwood wrote: I ran a portsupgrade scan, and was presented with a long list of installed ports and whether an update was available. In general, I prefer not to update ports/packages between FreeBSD releases. An obvious exception to this general rules is the patching of security vulnerabilities; of course not all available updates are security fixes. So my question is: how or where can I monitor security vulnerabilities? Or, how can I keep my system up-to-date with respect to security, without applying every non-security update? Thanks, Daniel User ports-mgmt/portaudit This will report any installed port with security issues. It will even run from periodic, sending this info via email. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Shopping for external harddrive
Daniel Underwood wrote: I'm looking to purchase a = 1TB external harddrive, because I'm running out of room on my 300GB external. Anyone have good experience with any particular brands? I really don't know how different brands compare in reliability to one another. Of course I plan to check CNet and other online reviews. But I also wanted to see if any of you folks have personal recommendations. Thanks, Daniel I recently replaced my Lacie external hardrive (used for backup) with a WD MyBook. The Lacie was about two years old and the USB interface failed. The disk is still ok. I believe this came along as a result of faulty design decisions: - The disk was on and spinning all the time, no matter if accessed or not (it was only getting mounted for an hour or two a day) - There was not enough space in the box and around the disk, very bad cooling. The MyBook quickly spins down when not in use and runs very cool due to the case design. I expect it to last a lot longer. I believe these come in 1Tb models as well. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: xdm freezes - 7.2-RELEASE installed
Andrew Gould wrote: On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Daniel Underwood djuatde...@gmail.comwrote: Yep, that was it! I should have read the Handbook more thoroughly: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/x-config.html#AEN6615 me too ;-) Taking this opportunity, allow me to remind to everyone that the Handbook is always work in progress and it is always useful to check again sections that you have already read, as new info is added regularly. This latest addition to the Handbook was in fact inspired by questions and info appearing on this same list :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: What is the highest hard drive read/write speed you were able to achieve by entire disk mirroring or striping?
Yuri wrote: I am seeing 85MB/s as a speed of a single Hitachi 1TB HD. How high can you go by mirroring or striping 2, 3, 4 harddrives? Any experiences? Thank you, Yuri Highly unscientific measurement here, but I seem to be getting a max of ~160 MB/s by striping two Seagate 500Gb drives. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: source for sysinstall
Tim Judd wrote: On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 2:46 AM, Glen Barber glen.j.bar...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 3:59 AM, Fbsd1 fb...@a1poweruser.com wrote: How can i just download the source for sysinstall? http://svn.freebsd.org/base/release/7.2.0/usr.sbin/sysinstall/ -- Glen Barber Shouldn't we give the cvs URI instead of the svn? Isn't cvs the norm whereas svn may be on it's way out? I could totally be in left field about that though. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/usr.sbin/sysinstall/ Actually, it's the other way round: FreeBSD (src repository) switched to svn from CVS some time ago. Both your link and Glen's are valid though. Source may also be downloaded using csup (although I think the smallest subcollection for sysinstall would be src-usrsbin and you would definitely get more than sysinstall with that). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Problems with Xorg after portupgrade
Anton Shterenlikht wrote: On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 02:43:18PM +0200, Daniel C. Dowse wrote: On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:38:10 +0100 Anton Shterenlikht me...@bristol.ac.uk wrote: On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 08:24:05AM -0400, Robert Huff wrote: Anton Shterenlikht writes: Section DRI Mode0666 EndSection what does this do? Sets the permissions for some file. which file? Is this something to do with allowing ordinary users run X? Hi, Anton, it is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf yes, I got this from somebody's xorg.conf, but what does this do? Is this a recommended setting? For what driver? thank you anton Permits access to Direct Rendering for all users. For details see this: http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/DriTroubleshooting ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to?
Lloyd Friedman wrote: I have a Microway computer with a PC164LX. How and where can I down load FreeBSD ALPHA version. I know it is no longer supported, but I believe there are older versions I can down load. If not, then I will have to try to find a Linux that will work. Try the FTP site: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-alpha/6.4/ Better yet, locate a mirror close to you (not all mirrors may have these files): http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/mirrors-ftp.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Chicken and egg
Steven Friedrich wrote: Lowell Gilbert wrote: Steven Friedrich stevenfriedr...@insightbb.com writes: I've been having trouble with X11 ports, so I deleted all my packages and tried to install xorg fresh. xorg port failed trying to build cairo, cairo failed because it couldn't build libdrm, libdrm failed because cairo's headers weren't installed. So in summary, I can't install cairo because it wants to build libdrm, which won't build/install because it wants cairo. And I tried to install packages or the X11 distro from the ftp site and also from my 7.2 RC-1 media. I tried setting the Options for any as well as RELEASE_7_2_0, to no avail. My system is up and running multi-user, so sysinstall failed to install any packages. I built cairo with make -k install, so it would brute force past the error, and after that I built libdrm and cairo again with portupgrade -fr libdrm cairo. Not only have I not seen or heard of this problem before, I can't see any direct dependency of either libdrm or cairo on the other. pkg_info -r cairo\* shows that cairo needs libdrm. Information for cairo-1.8.6_1,1: Depends on: ... Dependency: libdrm-2.4.9 ... If anyone has a has a test system, where they could try my scenario, i.e., deleting all installed packages and trying to install xorg, I think you'll find it. I have two identical systems that I have mobile racks in, allowing me to swap out the hard drives. So I have 4 sets of drives, Lightning, Daemon, FreakinBSD, and Gandalf. I saw this issue with Daemon. I need to update FreakinBSD and Gandalf, so I'll try this again and get it in a log file. libdrm doesn't build without cairo.h in /usr/local/include, but it won't be there until you're built cairo, which depends on libdrm. As Lowell already said, I can't find any dependency between libdrm and cairo. My guess is you package database has one or more stale dependencies. However, if the purpose is to wipe all packages you don't even have to bother with pkg_delete. In such cases I simply rm /usr/local and /var/db/pkg (Keep /var/db/pkg/linux_base-fc* if you are using the linux binary compatibility, as this is not installed in /usr/local but /usr/compat). I do this routinely on test systems. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Noisy GEOM_LABEL on boot of 7-STABLE
Luke Dean wrote: I just upgraded my old laptop from an older 7.1 release to the latest 7-STABLE for i386, and I started getting a lot of new GEOM_LABEL noise during the boot process. It says it's removing and adding labels every time it does the filesystem checks. What's that all about? Should I be concerned? This is just an old laptop with a simple out-of-the-box UFS filesystem with no frills or geom features that aren't default. I have never run tunefs or used glabel. kern.geom.label.debug=0 FreeBSD 7.2-PRERELEASE #1: Tue Apr 28 12:16:44 PDT 2009 ad0: 57231MB TOSHIBA MK6034GAX AC101A at ata0-master UDMA33 GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad0s1a is ufsid/47225356153f5b56. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad0s1d is ufsid/472253592de7e9f5. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad0s1e is ufsid/47225356139009e4. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad0s1f is ufsid/47225356087c310e. Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a . . snip . . Starting file system checks: GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/47225356153f5b56 removed. /dev/ad0s1a: FILE SYSTEM CLEAN; SKIPPING CHECKS /dev/ad0s1a: clean, 111842 free (1610 frags, 13779 blocks, 0.6% fragmentation) GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad0s1a is ufsid/47225356153f5b56. GEOM_LABEL: Label ufsid/47225356139009e4 removed. In short, no. These messages have generally caused concern and they may be removed for 7.2-RELEASE ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: CVS history access?
John Nielsen wrote: I'm working on a machine learning project and I'd like to use the FreeBSD src CVS commit history as a datasource. Is there a resource-friendly way for me to download some or all of it? Format isn't too big an issue. I tried a few cvs history commands against the anoncvs servers but get this: cvs [history aborted]: cannot open history file: /home/ncvs/CVSROOT/history: No such file or directory I'm not too experienced with cvs so if I'm missing something let me know. The Mailman archives for freebsd-cvs are one option, but I was hoping for more of a direct approach if possible. Thanks, JN It seems history is optional in CVS, and it does not exist (at least anymore) in the FreeBSD CVS. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer?
Polytropon wrote: On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 01:59:53 +0300, Manolis Kiagias son...@otenet.gr wrote: Exactly. Modern install does not necessarily mean GUI. FreeBSD *needs* a text installer to work on old machines, headless servers, serial consoles and the like. That being said, there are quite a few annoyances with sysinstall. And of course, having a GUI installer as an additional option is also very welcome. No problem, as long as (a) it isn't default (read: too complicated to switch it off of not needed) and (b) doesn't make things more complicated. The text installer should always be the default, IMHO. A GUI installer should be selectable i.e. from the boot options. I hope Ivan Voras finds the time to continue with the finstall project, it looked very promising: http://ivoras.sharanet.org/blog/tree/2009-02-19.what-happened-to-finstall.html - No real 'back' functionality. Can't fix most mistakes, need to redo the install Hmmm... I think this is where the user learns first think, then do on a good basis. The problem here is that sysinstall *does* allow you to go back and redo some steps, but then fails miserably and mysteriously Personally, I would like a text installer using a previous/next approach that would give me options like: Forgive me my ignorance, but personally, I completely DISLIKE this linear approach. Instead of A --- B --- C --- D --- E --- Foops, forgot something E --- no, not here D --- not here, too C ---ah, here it was, okay, got it C --- D --- E --- F --- Finish The moving back approach as I see it is not intended as an excuse to leave your brain turned off. And it doesn't even have to move back all steps - one would be enough for the occasional wrong key-press. A hierarchy would be better. Options: A This and that B Some other stuff C More stuff D Even more stuff E Some settings F Several other settings DoneCommit So one could first select A This and that then, knowing that C - E are not interesting for him, address F Several other settings directly, make some choices, and then, maybe go back to A This and that and do some more tasks, and finally select DoneCommit to do the install. I have no problem with this strategy, but... This is what sysinstall already provides. In a modern way, it allows to go back to any setting that has already been done and change it, and the user is not limited in doing choices in a pre-defined order. ...it does allow you to go back in a sort of way - but then fails many times to continue normally. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer?
Polytropon wrote: On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 10:00:24 +0300, Manolis Kiagias son...@otenet.gr wrote: The text installer should always be the default, IMHO. A GUI installer should be selectable i.e. from the boot options. I hope Ivan Voras finds the time to continue with the finstall project, it looked very promising: http://ivoras.sharanet.org/blog/tree/2009-02-19.what-happened-to-finstall.html As an option, yes; as a replacement... uhm, no, better not... The problem here is that sysinstall *does* allow you to go back and redo some steps, but then fails miserably and mysteriously [...] ...it does allow you to go back in a sort of way - but then fails many times to continue normally. I don't deny that fact that this observation is possible, but I never found such a behaviour. Could you provide an example how to create a situation where sysinstall fails as you mentioned it? (It's a completely honest question.) An example: pressing cancel on any dialog will almost certainly get you somewhere where you cannot continue or restart successfully. The label editor will not allow me to create any partitions other than the standard ones, as it keeps asking for mount points. You can select Exit this menu (returning to previous one) (I think cancel too) in the distributions list without making any selection at all, and it still goes on and install (what?). Pressing CTRL+C at most parts of sysinstall will give you a menu to abort or restart the installation program. On restart, most of the times it will fail creating (slices or partitions) or formating filesystems. These are just a few problems I remember now. Granted, if you do always follow the same ritual (as I do mostly) it works and I can simply ignore it, but others hate it... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: freebsd-update on FreeBSD 6.x
Andy Smith wrote: Hi, when running freebsd-update fetch on FreeBSD 6.x I get the error: Fetching public key... fetch: http://update.freebsd.org/i386/6.1/pub.key: No address record Error fetching updates I've seen the No address record in the past in few of my machines. The update.freebsd.org address is a pool of addresses actually and AFAIR there were some problems with DNS for some people. I don't recall the exact cause, but you will get over it by specifying a specific server in freebsd-update.conf, like update1.freebsd.org This may not be your only problem though. I've previously had a search around and compared the config file with that present by default on FreeBSD 7.x (which works without any hacking etc) but I never did work out what is wrong or what should be in a good config file. For one thing the directory its looking in for the pub.key seems to be hardcoded as /i386/6.1/ or at least that path is not present in my conf file, perhaps its possible to add an additional line to the conf file to modify this... Can anyone point me in the right direction? A quick visit to http://update.freebsd.org does not show this directory - although this maybe intentional. I suggest you try the server change and if you connect but still fail to get the key, then go on and hack the script. I don't have a 6.1 machine around, but freebsd-update is just a sh script and you should be able to find what's going on. There is nothing hardcoded in it, at least in the version distributed with 7.x. In fact I would try running the 7.x version on this system. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Modern FreeBSD Installer?
VirtualHost wrote: Please, calm down a bit, The original poster only revert to a modern' install, who knows what he ment by this. Perhaps he doesn't want to specify what the partioning would look like himself, unless he prefered to do it otherwise. The idea that he insist on a graphicals installation is implied by the reactions, not by the original poster. Personally I wouldn't mind if an additional install cd is available with a nice graphical interface. As long as the original, text mode / sysinstall is available as _default_, I dont't care if there is a ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386/7.1/7.1-RELEASE-GUI-i386-disc1.iso sponsored by Fritz Kolberg [ and yes, he insist on paying for something which is free ] Jeroen Exactly. Modern install does not necessarily mean GUI. FreeBSD *needs* a text installer to work on old machines, headless servers, serial consoles and the like. That being said, there are quite a few annoyances with sysinstall. And of course, having a GUI installer as an additional option is also very welcome. Some of the current problems with sysinstall IMHO: - Confusing set of options - Beginners tend to go in circles inside the installer - No real 'back' functionality. Can't fix most mistakes, need to redo the install - Does not make the difference between base system and packages obvious. - Tries to do too much for a single program (install, configure, install packages, fdisk, label, network you name it) but many of these choices lack essential functionality or behave strangely. (i.e. the label editor will not allow you to create an extra partition without giving a mount point) Personally, I would like a text installer using a previous/next approach that would give me options like: - Install a Complete FreeBSD Base System = Subchoices: install everything or select base system components - Install Additional Software Packages - Configure other services - Help and that would allow someone to go back and forth between the pages For myself I don't really mind, as I always do the same install (Standard, Custom Distribution, Select everything but X, ports, local and so on) but it would be really nice if people just starting out don't get intimidated by the installer. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
