Progress of Intel GEM/KMS/DRI laptop video driver?

2011-09-24 Thread Xn Nooby
I have read about a patch for Intel video that might make it into
Release 9.0, is there any way to know if it is in "9.0-current"?  I
installed the 9 beta 2 snapshot, but I don't think the video support
was there. (Next time I will check the compatibility list!)

The patch is for Intel laptop video support, and is mentioned here:

http://freebsdfoundation.blogspot.com/2011/02/freebsd-foundation-announces-new.html

"The FreeBSD Foundation is pleased to announce that Konstantin
Belousov has been awarded a grant to implement support of GEM, KMS,
and DRI for Intel Drivers. This project is being co-sponsored by
iXsystems.

The project is to implement GEM, port KMS, and write new DRI drivers
for Intel Graphics, including the latest Sandy Bridge generation of
integrated graphic units. The work should allow the latest Intel
open-source driver to run on FreeBSD, expanding the range of hardware
where FreeBSD is suitable for the desktop."
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Re: A small script to customize FreeBSD

2011-05-31 Thread Xn Nooby
> kldload snd_driver
> will load the sound driver that it thinks would be the best, but then

I considered using the auto-detect driver, I probably should in a
script used by many people. I did not know if there were any
disadvantages to using it.

> I see the following code could do the job, but it might need some testing :(

That is an interesting script - is there an advantage over loading the
auto-detect driver?

I have trouble knowing which driver to load, even when the system
tells what it loaded using the auto-detect driver, lol.

> Antonio

thanks for the suggestion!
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Re: A small script to customize FreeBSD

2011-05-31 Thread Xn Nooby
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 5:19 AM, Chris Rees  wrote:
> On 31 May 2011 04:19, Xn Nooby  wrote:
>> Hello.  I wrote a script to install FreeBSD 8.2 on to a real machine,
>> or a 64-bit Virtualbox VM.  It has a modular approach where you can
>> pick which functions will be run on a different target system. It can
>> be tweaked easily.  I wrote it so that I could do a quick "plain
>> vanilla install", and then run this script to set up my user, SVN
>> server, gnome, firefox4, flash, nvidia driver, vbox additons, and
>> other things. I thought I would post it in case other beginners need
>> some thing like this to help them configure a machine.  I started off
>> with detailed notes, then thought I might as well script it. When you
>> run it, the only user interaction is having to enter the user password
>> twice.  Let me know if anyone has any suggestions.
>
> How about using $1 instead of theuser?
>
> You could always have ${1:-theuser} instead to have a default of
> theuser, but take the value for username as the first argument.
>
> Chris
>

That's a good idea.  The user was originally called "me", but I wanted
something that could be searched and replaced without breaking "gnome"
and "home".  Using a parameter would be even better, thanks!.
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A small script to customize FreeBSD

2011-05-30 Thread Xn Nooby
Hello.  I wrote a script to install FreeBSD 8.2 on to a real machine,
or a 64-bit Virtualbox VM.  It has a modular approach where you can
pick which functions will be run on a different target system. It can
be tweaked easily.  I wrote it so that I could do a quick "plain
vanilla install", and then run this script to set up my user, SVN
server, gnome, firefox4, flash, nvidia driver, vbox additons, and
other things. I thought I would post it in case other beginners need
some thing like this to help them configure a machine.  I started off
with detailed notes, then thought I might as well script it. When you
run it, the only user interaction is having to enter the user password
twice.  Let me know if anyone has any suggestions.


#!/bin/sh

loadMe() {
echo loadMe...
pw useradd -n theuser -s /bin/csh -m
pw usermod theuser -G wheel,operator
passwd theuser

echo '#exec openbox-session' >> /home/theuser/.xinitrc
chown theuser:theuser /home/theuser/.xinitrc
chmod u+x /home/theuser/.xinitrc

echo '#!/bin/sh' > /home/theuser/init_theuser.sh
echo 'nspluginwrapper -v -a -i' >> /home/theuser/init_theuser.sh
chown theuser:theuser /home/theuser/init_theuser.sh
chmod u+x /home/theuser/init_theuser.sh
}


loadPorts() {
echo loadPorts...
freebsd-update fetch install
portsnap fetch extract
}


loadX11() {
echo loadX11...
pkg_add -r xorg
echo 'dbus_enable="YES"' >> /etc/rc.conf
echo 'hald_enable="YES"' >> /etc/rc.conf
/usr/local/etc/rc.d/hald start
/usr/local/etc/rc.d/dbus start
Xorg -configure
sed '
/Section "Device"/ a\
Option "DRI" "Off"
' xorg.conf.new > xorg.conf.sed
cp xorg.conf.sed /etc/X11/xorg.conf
}


loadSoundHP() {
echo loadsoundHP...
kldload snd_driver
cat /dev/sndstat
echo 'snd_atiixp_load="YES"' >> /boot/loader.conf
echo 'snd_uaudio_load="YES"' >> /boot/loader.conf
}


loadSoundVMW() {
echo loadsoundVMW...
kldload snd_driver
cat /dev/sndstat
echo 'snd_es137x_load="YES"' >> /boot/loader.conf
}


loadSoundXPS() {
echo loadsoundXPS...
kldload snd_driver
cat /dev/sndstat
echo 'snd_hda_load="YES"' >> /boot/loader.conf
}

loadSoundVBX() {
echo loadsoundVBX...
kldload snd_driver
cat /dev/sndstat
echo 'snd_ich_load="YES"' >> /boot/loader.conf
}

loadFF() {
echo loadFF...
pkg_add -r firefox
echo 'sem_load="YES"' >> /boot/loader.conf
}


loadApps() {
echo loadApps...
apps="bash unzip p7zip vlc xmms subversion mplayer openbox icewm
cmdwatch xfe miro filezilla"
for x in $apps
do
pkg_add -r $x
done
}

loadVboxAdds() {
echo loadVboxAdds...
#cd /usr/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose-additions
#make install clean
pkg_add -r virtualbox-ose-additions
echo 'vboxguest_enable="YES"' >> /etc/rc.conf

sed '
/Section "Screen"/ a\
DefaultDepth 24
' /etc/X11/xorg.conf > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.sed
cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.sed /etc/X11/xorg.conf

sed '
/Depth 24/ a\
Modes "1024x768"
' /etc/X11/xorg.conf > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.sed
cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.sed /etc/X11/xorg.conf

sed -e 's/"vesa"/"vboxvideo"/' /etc/X11/xorg.conf > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.sed
cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.sed /etc/X11/xorg.conf

echo '#!/bin/sh' >> /etc/rc.local
echo '/usr/local/sbin/VBoxService' >> /etc/rc.local
chmod a+x /etc/rc.local

}

loadFonts() {
echo loadFonts...
cd /usr/ports/x11-fonts/webfonts
make install clean
pkg_add -r dejavu
cd
sed '
/Section "Module"/ a\
Load "freetype"\
Load "type1"
' /etc/X11/xorg.conf > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.sed
cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.sed /etc/X11/xorg.conf
sed '
/Section "Files"/ a\
FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/webfonts/"\
FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/dejavu/"
' /etc/X11/xorg.conf > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.sed
cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.sed /etc/X11/xorg.conf
fc-cache -f -v
}


loadFlash() {
echo loadFlash...
kldload linux
#cd /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-f10
#make install clean
pkg_add -r linux_base-f10
echo 'linux_enable="YES"' >> /etc/rc.conf
echo 'linproc /usr/compat/linux/proc linprocfs rw 0 0' >> /etc/fstab
mount -a
#cd /usr/ports/www/nspluginwrapper
#make install clean
pkg_add -r nspluginwrapper
cd /usr/ports/www/linux-f10-flashplugin10
make makesum
make install clean
cd
mkdir /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins
ln -s /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-f10-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so
/usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/
rehash
}

loadVB() {
echo loadVB...
pkg_add -r virtualbox-ose
echo 'vboxnet_enable="YES"' >> /etc/rc.conf
echo 'vboxdrv_load="YES"' >> /boot/loader.conf
pw groupmod vboxusers -m theuser
}

loadSvn() {
echo loadSvn...
pkg_add -r subversion
mkdir /home/svn-repo
pw user add -n svn -u 3690 -d /home/svn-repo
chsh -s /bin/false svn
echo 'svnserve_enable="YES"' >> /etc/rc.conf
echo 'svnserve_data="/home/svn-repo"' >> /etc/rc.conf
echo 'svnserve_user="svn"' >> /etc/rc.conf
echo 'svnserve_group="svn"' >> /etc/rc.conf
rehash
svnadmin create /home/svn-repo
cd /home/svn-repo/conf
echo 'theuser = theuserpw' >> passwd
sed '
/# anon-acces/ a\
anon-access = none\
auth-access = write\
password-db = passwd
' svnserve.conf > svnserve.conf.sed
cp svnserve.conf.sed svnserve.conf
cd
chown -R svn:svn /home/svn-repo/
chmod -R 770 /home/svn-repo/*
/usr/local/e

Re: Not able to install firefox 4 from 8.2 stable packages

2011-05-22 Thread Xn Nooby
On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Xn Nooby  wrote:
>>   # portsnap fetch update
>>   # cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portmaster
>>   # make install
>>   # portmaster --check-depends
>>   # portmaster www/firefox
>
> Thanks!, that worked, though I had to do a 'rehash' after the 'make install'.
>
>> There is work going on to change this situation -- search the list
>> archives for discussion of pkgNG and PC-PSD's .pci format if you're
>> interested. In the mean time, many people find that installing
>> everything from source via the ports is the least frustrating method,
>> albeit at the cost of spending more time running compilations.
>
> I started using the approach of installing everything from ports, but
> it takes a long time to build things like xorg and firefox. Even
> though I don't like PC-BSD using KDE, their PBI system seems to
> circumvent these problems.  I will read up on pkgNG, too.  Thanks!

I got flash working with Firefox 4, there was apparently a bad
checksum in the ports tree.  I had to add a "make makesum" command.
My installation steps for Flash ended up being:

# kldload linux
# cd /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-f10
# make install clean
# echo 'linux_enable="YES"' >> /etc/rc.conf
# echo 'linproc /usr/compat/linux/proc linprocfs rw 0 0' >> /etc/fstab
# mount -a
# cd /usr/ports/www/nspluginwrapper
# make install clean
# cd /usr/ports/www/linux-f10-flashplugin10
# make makesum
# make install clean

Now I can integrate this into my install script.

thanks!
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Re: The Perfect Desktop: FreebSD 8.2 in Virtualbox 4?

2011-05-22 Thread Xn Nooby
On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Polytropon  wrote:
> On Sun, 22 May 2011 15:17:50 -0400, Xn Nooby  wrote:
>> HowtoForge has a lot of good examples of how to install and configure
>> a desktop system using various Linux distributions, but there are none
>> on how to create a FreeBSD desktop.  Would someone will be willing to
>> put one together?
>
> U think the majority of FreeBSD users who use the system
> on their desktop won't agree on "the one desktop", as
> everyone I've encountered so far has different preferences
> and requirements. So a generalized statement is quite hard.
> There are systems with preconfigured desktops, such as
> PC-BSD, DesktopBSD and FreeSBIE.


I'm thinking about new users, rather than typical users. A typical
FreeBSD user probably already knows how to configure a desktop that is
ideal for them.  A new user will take whatever they can get working,
and keep working.


>> I envision this more of a how-to than just providing an "appliance".
>
> But that would be a good starting point for learning on
> how the inventors of VirtualBSD (to name an appliance)
> have done it, and build an own system from there on,
> keeping The FreeBSD Handbook at hand.
>
> See http://www.virtualbsd.info/ for details.


I had previously visited their site, but they did not have
instructions on how they created the appliance, or a forum to discuss
it.


>> The goal would be to show how to configure the system on a
>> hardware-neutral platform (Virtualbox VM), so that people could use it
>> as an example for setting up their own systems.
>
> I'm sure the handbook's sections about the required
> parts can be very easily applied to virtual hardware,
> as they are generic enough to cover them.


When I configured the sound driver on my machines, I had to go through
a "discovery" process to find out what driver was required on each
machine.  Inside a VM, you would know what driver to load, and you
could just tell the user to "install the sound driver with this
command".  You wouldn't have to tell them how to figure out which
driver to install.


>> I suspect a lot of
>> people would use this guide for setting up a laptop, so an
>> underpowered VM would be a good proxy.
>
> Due to hardware limitations (incompatible parts) mostly
> found in "modern" laptops, I would assume that FreeBSD
> users prefer running the system on hardware that is
> known to work...


I would expect that a typical new desktop user would be using an old
computer purchased before they knew anything about FreeBSD. Or even
more likely, a virtual machine hosted on a Windows box.


>> Some parameters for the guide could be:
>>  - uses 8.2 installer
>>  - tracks errata branch with FreeBSD update
>>  - tracks 8-stable branch for ports
>
> Depends on preferred usage paradigm.


Yes and that paradigm would have to be properly defined.  My
definition would be that of a hobbyist desktop user who wants a
functioning and maintainable desktop enviroment. In the Debian example
I gave, their "included software" implies their target audience.  I'm
not interested in hosting 5000 jails, running a database cluster, or
acting as the neighborhood ISP.


>>  - builds from source minimally (laptops are slow!)
>
> There are laptops with resources equal to a fullblown
> desktop machine. :-)
>
>
>
>>  - demonstrates how to install many desktop apps
>
> That would be covered by "how to install additional
> software", which means pkg_add, make install, or a
> port management tool. Maybe you refer to how to involve
> graphical port management abstractors?


I would prefer to stick with command-line tools, but in a controlled
environment that won't fail.  Maybe that is not possible when tracking
"stable" (ironically).  For example, I've spent most of the last 72
hours trying to install firefox, flash (via linux_base-10), and
virtualbox-ose-additons in to a "stable" environment, and only firefox
is working.  About once a year for the last 6 years I try to setup a
FreeBSD desktop, and eventually get frustrated and go back to linux.


>>  - uses a lightweight VM, icewm or openbox ?
>
> Or WindowMaker? :-)
>
>
>
>>  - optionally uses a heavyweight WM, Gnome3 ?
>
> Until it stops working. :-)
>
>
>
>>  - ideally demonstrates "best practices"
>
> Also depends on requirements, by users or by setting in
> which the system should be used (e. g. security policies,
> prohibition of standard means of communication and so on).
>
>
>
>>  - looks good, with nice fonts
>
> "Looks good" also depends VERY.
>
>
>
>>  - optional

The Perfect Desktop: FreebSD 8.2 in Virtualbox 4?

2011-05-22 Thread Xn Nooby
HowtoForge has a lot of good examples of how to install and configure
a desktop system using various Linux distributions, but there are none
on how to create a FreeBSD desktop.  Would someone will be willing to
put one together?

I envision this more of a how-to than just providing an "appliance".
The goal would be to show how to configure the system on a
hardware-neutral platform (Virtualbox VM), so that people could use it
as an example for setting up their own systems.  I suspect a lot of
people would use this guide for setting up a laptop, so an
underpowered VM would be a good proxy.

Some parameters for the guide could be:
 - uses 8.2 installer
 - tracks errata branch with FreeBSD update
 - tracks 8-stable branch for ports
 - builds from source minimally (laptops are slow!)
 - demonstrates how to install many desktop apps
 - uses a lightweight VM, icewm or openbox ?
 - optionally uses a heavyweight WM, Gnome3 ?
 - ideally demonstrates "best practices"
 - looks good, with nice fonts
 - optionally supports openGL (desktop users would need that)
 - optionally includes tips for upgrading to 8.3+

Here is the page for Debian Lenny as an example:

http://www.howtoforge.com/the-perfect-desktop-debian-lenny

I know the Handbook has everything it it, but I am looking for
something that can leverage the fact that in a VM the hardware is
known in advance.  The instructions could then be very direct, and
would not have to cover all possible situations.  They would simply be
"do exactly these commands".

Admittedly I am asking for what I need, but there might be others who
could benefit.  I have been trying to make a script to do these
automatically, but I am still having problems understanding certain
things.  I could help some, by testing, and I can write an install
script to automate anything that I can understand.
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Re: Not able to install firefox 4 from 8.2 stable packages

2011-05-22 Thread Xn Nooby
>   # portsnap fetch update
>   # cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portmaster
>   # make install
>   # portmaster --check-depends
>   # portmaster www/firefox

Thanks!, that worked, though I had to do a 'rehash' after the 'make install'.

> There is work going on to change this situation -- search the list
> archives for discussion of pkgNG and PC-PSD's .pci format if you're
> interested. In the mean time, many people find that installing
> everything from source via the ports is the least frustrating method,
> albeit at the cost of spending more time running compilations.

I started using the approach of installing everything from ports, but
it takes a long time to build things like xorg and firefox. Even
though I don't like PC-BSD using KDE, their PBI system seems to
circumvent these problems.  I will read up on pkgNG, too.  Thanks!
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Not able to install firefox 4 from 8.2 stable packages

2011-05-21 Thread Xn Nooby
I'm a struggling nooby.  I am trying to install firefox 4 on a fresh
8.2 installation. I want to the core system to track the "errata"
branch, and get binary packages from 8-stable (which has firefox 4).


I installed FreeBSD 8.2 release.

# freebsd-update fetch install

rebooted

# portsnap fetch extract

use BASH shell

# export 
PACKAGESITE="ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-8-stable/Latest/";

installed x11 and icewm

# pkg_add -r firefox

get perl conflict between 5.10 and 5.12

# pkg_add -fr firefox

firefox installs but I get "firefox3" instead of firefox 4.0

# pkg_info| grep firefox

shows "firefox-3.6.13,1"

trying to use source

# cd /usr/ports/www/firefox
# make install clean

get errors about firefox 4.0.1 needing nspr>=4.8.7

# pkg_add -r nspr

says nspr-4.8.6 or older is already installed
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Re: Over-whelmed by ports and package tools

2011-05-20 Thread Xn Nooby
> Also try to go with portsnap for ports IMHO it's the path of least
> resistance ;-)

I will try portsnap, and read about the pkgdb database.  If all these
tools ultimately resolve to pkgdb, I will try to learn about that.

I have tried PC-BSD, and look forward to version 9.0.  I really don't
like KDE, though.  I hear some rumblings about a Gnome developer
wanting to drop BSD support, so maybe I better start liking KDE.
PC-BSD seems to have done a great job reproducing the way Mac's
install software, by using self-contained bundles (PBI's). And next
version of PBI is supposed to not need a GUI. I'm sure I will be
trying the next version PC-BSD. Hopefully to be released soon.

thanks!
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Over-whelmed by ports and package tools

2011-05-19 Thread Xn Nooby
It is hard for me to tell what tools I should be using to work with
ports and packages.  I was trying to set up a 64bit 8.2 machine as a
desktop environment, with Firefox 4 and Flash installed.  It looked
like I was going to need to track the 8.x stable branch in order to
get a Firefox package, and I was having some problems pinning down
which version of Flash I should use (they have a new version since 8l2
was released).  I decided to stop and just make sure I understood how
I was supposed to be working with ports and packages.

I've have been reading about cvsup, freebsd-update, portsnap,
portupgrade, and portmaster.  In general, I think I would like to use
packages when possible, since I expect to be doing some installs on
low-powered machines (my old laptops).  I don't want to build
everything from the ports tree (unless I have to).  I know that I can
set the environment variable PACKAGESITE in order to get packages from
8.x instead of 8.2, and the packages would at worst be a month old.  I
have also read portupgrade can be used to upgrade ports (obvious
enough).

What I have not really seen yet, is an explanation of when you might
want to use the different tools.  I have read some tools don't need
certain other things installed, but I don't know why that is
significant.  Perhaps some of the tools are only used in rare
situations, and I don't need to consider using them. I also don't know
how mutually exclusive they are.

I am working on a script to automatically load up all the software I
want on my desktop, below are some of the sub-routines that show what
I am trying to do. I think the script worked when 8.2 was new, but
things seemed to have changed and it no longer works so well. I want
to make it change-proof.

loadPorts() {
echo loadPorts...
freebsd-update fetch install
portsnap fetch extract
}

loadFF() {
echo loadFF...
pkg_add -r firefox
echo 'sem_load="YES"' >> /boot/loader.conf
}


loadApps() {
echo loadApps...
apps="bash unzip p7zip vlc xmms subversion mplayer openbox icewm
cmdwatch xfe miro filezilla"
for x in $apps
do
pkg_add -r $x
done
}

loadFonts() {
echo loadFonts...
cd /usr/ports/x11-fonts/webfonts
make install clean
pkg_add -r dejavu
cd
sed '
/Section "Module"/ a\
Load "freetype"\
Load "type1"
' /etc/X11/xorg.conf > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.sed
cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.sed /etc/X11/xorg.conf
sed '
/Section "Files"/ a\
FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/webfonts/"\
FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/dejavu/"
' /etc/X11/xorg.conf > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.sed
cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.sed /etc/X11/xorg.conf
fc-cache -f -v
}


loadFlash() {
echo loadFlash...
kldload linux
pkg_add -r linux_base-f10
echo 'linux_enable="YES"' >> /etc/rc.conf
echo 'linproc /usr/compat/linux/proc linprocfs rw 0 0' >> /etc/fstab
mount -a
pkg_add -r nspluginwrapper
cd /usr/ports/www/linux-f10-flashplugin10
mkdir -p /usr/ports/distfiles/flashplugin/10.1r53
scp me@192.168.200.2:install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz
/usr/ports/distfiles/flashplugin/10.1r53/
make install clean
cd
mkdir /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins
ln -s /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-f10-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so
/usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/
# read -p "pausing"
rehash
}
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Can FreeBSD be made to be as polished a desktop as Linux Mint?

2011-02-20 Thread Xn Nooby
I was wondering if there were any technical reasons why a FreeBSD
desktop could not be hand-tweaked to be as nice as a Linux Mint 10
desktop.  I only rarely use Linux Mint 10, but it's desktop and
webrowsing seem to be about perfect (albeit green).  The Gnome UI is
very smooth to interact with, and website fonts in Firefox look better
than on Windows.  When I install gnome2 and firefox via pkg_add,
everything works, but it is not as glassy smooth as LM10.  I think the
PC-BSD people are working on a Gnome-version, so I could wait and see
what they put together. I was just curious if there was any technical
reason why this could be done. I assume if they both use xorg, then it
is possible.
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Re: BSD Magazine PDFs

2011-02-18 Thread Xn Nooby
Thanks for the replies, good to know I'm not missing any issues.


On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Charlie Kester  wrote:
> On Fri 18 Feb 2011 at 08:13:19 PST MFV wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I've been downloading BSD Mag since it first came out and your list is
>> identical to mine.
>
> Same here.
>
>
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BSD Magazine PDFs

2011-02-17 Thread Xn Nooby
Is there a place where I can download all the BSD Magazine PDF back
issues?  I have got a lot of them from the BSD Magazine site, and a
few other sites, but I think I am missing some. For example, I only
have 2 from 2008, and 4 from 2009.  I was able to get most of them
from http://bsdmag.org

I renamed them to sort properly, the ones I have are:

BSD_2008_01.pdf
BSD_2008_02.pdf

BSD_2009_01.pdf
BSD_2009_02.pdf
BSD_2009_03.pdf
BSD_2009_04.pdf

BSD_2010_01.pdf
BSD_2010_02.pdf
BSD_2010_03.pdf
BSD_2010_04.pdf
BSD_2010_05.pdf
BSD_2010_06.pdf
BSD_2010_07.pdf
BSD_2010_08.pdf
BSD_2010_09.pdf
BSD_2010_10.pdf
BSD_2010_11.pdf

BSD_2011_01.pdf
BSD_2011_02.pdf

I would like to get the others, if there are any, and it is legal. Or
perhaps I have all the ones available.
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Re: What is the best way to image copy a FreeBSD system?

2011-02-17 Thread Xn Nooby
Wow, that article is just what I was looking for!  I will check out
your other articles too.  Thanks!


On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:33 AM, Warren Block  wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Feb 2011, Xn Nooby wrote:
>
>> I downloaded the "alternative testing" ubuntu-based version of
>> Clonezilla, and it appeared to backup my FreeBSD machine. It
>> identified my filesystem as UFS.  I will wipe the drive and try a
>> restore later tonight.   It said it was backing up 30GB of files,
>> which seemed odd for a fresh install.  The backup was 7.5GB.   There
>> is a lot of good info in this thread, so I will be experimenting with
>> the various methods discussed. It sounds like I really need to learn
>> about dump/restore.
>
> Pardon if I've mentioned this already, but I have an article called "Backup
> Options For FreeBSD" at http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/backup.html
>
> It covers variations of dump/restore, and also mentions Clonezilla and dd
> and their advantages and disadvantages.  Feedback welcome.
>
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Re: What is the best way to image copy a FreeBSD system?

2011-02-16 Thread Xn Nooby
I downloaded the "alternative testing" ubuntu-based version of
Clonezilla, and it appeared to backup my FreeBSD machine. It
identified my filesystem as UFS.  I will wipe the drive and try a
restore later tonight.   It said it was backing up 30GB of files,
which seemed odd for a fresh install.  The backup was 7.5GB.   There
is a lot of good info in this thread, so I will be experimenting with
the various methods discussed. It sounds like I really need to learn
about dump/restore.



On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Warren Block  wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Feb 2011, Jan Henrik Sylvester wrote:
>
>> I tried a version of Clonezilla that understood ufs and it was really fast
>> copying a slice: It did not understand disklabels and copied only the a
>> partition pretending that it did the entire slice.
>>
>> Did you try to copy a slice with multiple partitions?
>
> Since my T42 is handy, I'm testing the latest clonezilla-1.2.7-11-i686 image
> on it, PXE-booted.  It shows this sliced/partitioned disk as
>
> Clonezilla            FreeBSD
> --            ---
> sda  (60.0GB...
> sda1 (60.0GB_ufs...   /
> sda5 (ufs...          /
> sda6 ((In_HTS...      swap
> sda7 (ufs...          /var
> sda8 (ufs...          /tmp
> sda9 (ufs...          /usr
>
> "savedisk" will back up all of these from sda1 onwards, so there will be two
> copies of / (sda1 and sda5).  Same size but different md5s, no idea what's
> going on there.
>
> In the "saveparts" menu, the appropriate partitions can be picked by just
> choosing all the ones showing ufs in the first part of the description, but
> Clonezilla will only restore them to existing partitions.  "restoredisk"
> doesn't recognize a backup directory created with saveparts.
>
> Using a VirtualBox system with a 62G disk, Clonezilla restored all the
> partitions and the boot block.  The restored system boots and seems fine.
>  It really ought to be verified with mtree checksums or something similar.
>
> There are Clonezilla mailing lists, and anyone who wants to use it with
> FreeBSD or other UFS filesystems should join.  (I don't generally use
> Clonezilla for FreeBSD, and my project list is already too long, so I
> haven't, but still...)
>
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What is the best way to image copy a FreeBSD system?

2011-02-14 Thread Xn Nooby
On Linux I use clonezilla, which understands the EXT3 filesystem, and
it can skip unused space (I'm using about 3GB out of 1TB).

On FreeBSD, I have to fill the 1TB drive with zero-filled files, then
delete them, on each partiton, since CloneZilla uses DD+gzip on the
entire drive.

I like to make image copies of new systems, so I can revert back to my
starting point in case I break it, but CloneZilla is taking 9 hours to
image the drive.  I can re-install a lot faster than that.

I normally store my image copies on a Samba share on another system,
they are stored as files.  I am not copying to another raw drive.

Is there an image-copy backup program that understands the UFS
file-system? Or perhaps there is a better solution on FreeBSD?
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Re: delay in boot: ata2: on atapci0

2011-02-14 Thread Xn Nooby
Hi Alex,

I will double-check my BIOS, I thought I had unused ports disabled,
but I might have missed some (it's a complex motherboard!).  I
probably wont recompile my kernel, because I think that would prohibit
me from using the freebsd-update program.  I can always just wait, it
was a bigger problem when I had 6 drives in it.  It almost seems to be
pausing when it finds a drive, I have a CDROM and one HD in it now.


On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 11:01 PM, Alexander Best  wrote:
> On Mon Feb 14 11, Xn Nooby wrote:
>> I get about a 30 second delay during boot for each hard-drive
>> connected to my PC.  I'm running FreeBSD 8.1 AMD64 on an ASUS
>> Sabertooth X58 motherboard.
>>
>> atapci0: [ITHREAD]
>> ata2:  on atapci0
>> ata2: [ITHREAD]
>> ata3:  on atapci0
>>
>> Is there something I can define or disable to make these timeouts go faster?
>>
>> These lines get the delay:
>>
>> ata2:  on atapci0
>> ata3:  on atapci0
>
> A)
> you can rebuild your kernel with
>
> options        ATA_REQUEST_TIMEOUT=3
>
> to reduce the timeout to 3 seconds. that should be enough for new
> hdds/controllers.
>
>
> B)
> or you could try switching from ATA(4) to CAM(4) via the ATA_CAM kernel option
> (see ATA(4) for an explanation). since you're running pretty new hardware and
> a recent fbsd version you would defenately benefit from switching to CAM(4). 
> it
> has much better ahci support e.g.
>
> simply add
>
> options ATA_CAM
>
> to your kernel conf and your good to go after building installing the new
> kernel.
>
> also the probelm might be in your BIOS. be sure to deactivate all ATA channels
> which don't have a device connected to them. otherwise fbsd will look for one
> until the timeout gets hit (both in ATA(4) and CAM(4)). in fact you might want
> to check the bios before trying any of the steps A) or B), because this very
> likely seems to be the problem in your case.
>
> cheers.
> alex
>
> --
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>
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delay in boot: ata2: on atapci0

2011-02-14 Thread Xn Nooby
I get about a 30 second delay during boot for each hard-drive
connected to my PC.  I'm running FreeBSD 8.1 AMD64 on an ASUS
Sabertooth X58 motherboard.

atapci0: [ITHREAD]
ata2:  on atapci0
ata2: [ITHREAD]
ata3:  on atapci0

Is there something I can define or disable to make these timeouts go faster?

These lines get the delay:

ata2:  on atapci0
ata3:  on atapci0
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Re: Where to post FreeBSD tutorials?

2010-12-31 Thread Xn Nooby
Thanks, the Wiki and Howto page are just what I was looking for!  I
had only used the mailing lists so far.
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Where to post FreeBSD tutorials?

2010-12-30 Thread Xn Nooby
If I write a document about how to do something with FreeBSD, is there
a good place to post it, or a link to it?

Something like "how to edit a video in FreeBSD", not official documentation.

I usually have to google things to find them, and often find the
answer on stackoverflow or howtoforge.  Sometimes it hard to find
things in google, and sometimes I'm not sure what I'm looking for.
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Why are YT vids on FreeBSD all about hacking MSN? (solved)

2010-12-30 Thread Xn Nooby
I wanted to watch some videos about FreeBSD, so I went to Youtube and
searched on "FreeBSD".  Then I sorted by "Date Uploaded", and almost
all the videos uploaded recently are about hacking MSN.  I went to the
people's profiles, and they had no videos available.  I am guessing
that people are creating fake YT accounts to post a video that then
gets removed by YT.  It makes it impossible to find recent YT videos
about FreeBSD.

I just wondering if anyone else noticed this.

If you do the basic YT search sorted on "Relevance", you get really
old FreeBSD videos.


SOLVED:  I just noticed you can filter out "msn" from your results by
searching for "freebsd -msn".
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Does WINE work on FreeBSD amd64 ?

2010-12-26 Thread Xn Nooby
The wiki page seems to say that wine is a 32-bit port, and 32-bit
ports do not work well on amd64.  This would imply that 32-bit Windows
programs would not run on 32-bit wine on a FreeBSD 8.1 amd64 system.
Is this a correct interpretation?

Does anyone know if there are any plans to get 32 or 64 bit windows
programs running under wine on FreeBSD amd64?

http://wiki.freebsd.org/Wine
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Do I need a xorg.conf to use webfonts?

2010-12-26 Thread Xn Nooby
I installed FreeBSD 8.1, and the xorg package automatically detected
my video-card and monitor.  I did not have to create an xorg.conf
file.

If I want to webpages to look better in Firefox, I think I need to
install the "webfonts" package.  Section 5.5.2 of the Handbook seems
to say I need to modify my xorg.conf to use True Type fonts.

Do I need to create an xorg.conf to modify, or does the X server
automatically use new TTF fonts?
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Can FreeBSD utilize VT/HVM ?

2010-12-25 Thread Xn Nooby
I have a new computer that has VT (Virtualization Technology), so I am
able to virtualize other OS's when running Linux and their KVM.  Does
FreeBSD have a method of using VT to virtualize other OS's?  Jails are
really cool, especially since they do not need VT - but I was
wondering if there was an advantage to having VT when running FreeBSD.

Or would the VT be more-or -less unused with FreeBSD?

I sometimes experiment with different OS's, that is why I am
interested in virtualizing them.
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Re: Can a home LAN server use a jail as a router?

2010-12-07 Thread Xn Nooby
> I hope this helps you in your investigation(s).

Yes, thank you and the previous poster.  It sounds like my "outer" box
needs to be the router, and everything else should be a jail. I will
do some more reading up on jails.  Thanks!
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Can a home LAN server use a jail as a router?

2010-12-05 Thread Xn Nooby
Hello.  Is it possible to use FreeBSD to create three "jails" on one
box, so that one jail can be a router to the internet, and the other
two can be webservers?  I wanted to create an environment where if one
webserver got compromised, the other webserver would be unaffected. I
have old hardware, so I do not have hardware VT in the chip. I thought
I previously read that a jail could only have 1 NIC, but I have not
been able to confirm that. That would spoil my router plan, if true.

I'm more familiar with Linux than FreeBSD, but Linux seems to be
moving from Xen towards KVM (which requires VT).  I could use Xen,
probably on Debian if I did. Xen seems to require a specially built
Linux kernel on Debian, and I'm not sure I like that.

I'd also like to set up a personal samba file-server, but I'm deathly
afraid the machine would get hacked while wired to the net. So I would
also like to make a jail to be a samba server.

All these jails are predicated on one of them being able to act as a
router between the internet and my home LAN. I want some "jails" to
talk the internet (via the router jail), and some "jails" to only be
available in my house.
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Re: SATA DVD Drive Install Problem

2008-01-10 Thread Xn Nooby
I've been able to get 6.3-R3 and 7.0-RC1 to install from SATA DVD, but
not any previous versions.


On Jan 9, 2008 6:50 PM, Derrick Ryalls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Jan 9, 2008 3:08 PM, Sean Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Is anyone successful in installing FreeBSD from a SATA DVD Drive?
> >
>
> Did it last month with a machine that has only SATA (DVD and
> SATA-RAID), so it is possible at least on 7.0.
>
>
> > I am having trouble as it boots from the CD of 6.3 RC2 but at the
> > beginning of the install it fails.  The CD I then tried in another
> > computer and it installs fine.  I was wondering if it was the SATA DVD
> > drive or the motherboard.
> >
> > Thanks
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Two minute pause at acpi.ko message on old HP laptop with 7.0-RC1

2008-01-06 Thread Xn Nooby
I have an old zv5445us HP Pavillion laptop, essentially the zv5000
model, which pauses at the /boot/kernel/acpi.ko message during boot.
It hangs there, with a non-spinning ASCII character, for about 2
minutes - then it boots.  I tried entering the following commands in
to the loader.conf to no avail:

   set hint.atkbd.0.disabled="1"
   set hint.acpi.0.disabled="1"

I'm currently using FreeBSD 7.0-RC1, but it has the same behavior with
FreeBSD 6.3-RC2.

The machine seems to work okay after that, though I am having other
problems with the screen going blank when I try to configure X.  For
now, I was just trying to eliminate the 2 minute pause on acpi.ko.

Any suggestions?
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Re: Finally, Flash seems to be working for Me :)

2008-01-03 Thread Xn Nooby
Why not just use gnash to watch youtube videos?  It works fine for me,
with my user account.

However, if I use Firefox+gnash as root, it makes my system unstable,
I lose /dev/null, and the system gets weird.  I guess gnash will kill
your system if you run it as root.




On Jan 3, 2008 8:23 PM, Rudy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I forgot to mention, my post is for FreeBSD 7... here is my uname:
> FreeBSD 7.0-PRERELEASE #2: Thu Jan  3 15:59:14 PST 2008
>
>
>
> Rudy
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Re: Resolution too high with 7-RC1, nVidia, xorg

2008-01-01 Thread Xn Nooby
Well, after 15 hours of experimenting, I have 1024x768 working!
Getting PreferredMode to work was the main thing, I think.  It was
literally on my last try, before I reinstalled Ubuntu, that I got it
to work, lol.  Maybe these note will be of value to another nooby.

thanks again!

There 3 things that I needed:
  1) A modeline from the Modeline Calculator website
  2) To use the RefreshRate in the PreferredMode option
  3) To use the RefreshRate in the Modes line

Section "Monitor"
Identifier   "Monitor0"
VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName"Monitor Model"
Modeline "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 64.56 1024 1056 1296 1328 768 783 791 807
Option "PreferredMode" "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
EndSection


DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 24
Modes "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
EndSubSection




On Jan 1, 2008 3:23 PM, Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>>> "Xn" == Xn Nooby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Xn> Using the vesa driver worked - I am able to get 1024x768, though the
> Xn> fonts are a little weird.  I tried to use the modeline from the vesa
> Xn> driver with nv, but it didn't work.  If the nv driver is part of the
> Xn> problem, I will try the native nVidia driver and see how that works.
> Xn> I've been shutting down and restarting X everytime I try something.  I
> Xn> made a xorg.conf with the vesa selected by running xorgconfig. Ill try
> Xn> the native driver and see what happens.
>
> Following is an excerpt from my xorg.conf with ModeLine, see if you've
> entered "ModeLine" properly.
>
> --
> Section "Monitor"
> Identifier   "Monitor0"
> ModelName"LCD Panel 1440x900"
> HorizSync50.0 - 75.0
> VertRefresh  60.0 - 85.0
> Option  "dpms"
> ModeLine"[EMAIL PROTECTED]"136.75   1440 1536 1688 1936
> 900  903  909  942 -hsync +vsync
> DisplaySize 408.94 254.0
> Option  "TargetRefresh" "75.0"
> EndSection
>
> Section "Device"
> Identifier  "Videocard0"
> Driver  "intel"
> EndSection
>
> Section "Screen"
> Identifier "Screen0"
> Device "Videocard0"
> Monitor"Monitor0"
> DefaultDepth 24
> SubSection "Display"
> Viewport   0 0
> Depth 24
> Modes"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> EndSubSection
> EndSection
> -
>
>
> HTH
> --
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Re: Resolution too high with 7-RC1, nVidia, xorg

2008-01-01 Thread Xn Nooby
> Hmm..., this is strange. BtW, after adding modeline, you need to
> restart Xorg. Anyways to get modeline for "1024x768" you can try
> switching to 'vesa' driver temporarily, extract modeline for 1024x768
> From there, and then enter that modeline in xorg.conf. I tried this
> method when I'm having problem setting my old 15" LG Studioworks 452V
> to display 1024x768 without getting clipped.

Using the vesa driver worked - I am able to get 1024x768, though the
fonts are a little weird.  I tried to use the modeline from the vesa
driver with nv, but it didn't work.  If the nv driver is part of the
problem, I will try the native nVidia driver and see how that works.
I've been shutting down and restarting X everytime I try something.  I
made a xorg.conf with the vesa selected by running xorgconfig. Ill try
the native driver and see what happens.

thanks for all the help so far!
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Re: Resolution too high with 7-RC1, nVidia, xorg

2008-01-01 Thread Xn Nooby
I was able to temporarily change the resolution using the "xrandr -s
1024x768" command - but "xvidtune -show" still displayed a modeline
that begins with "1280x1024".  I copied that modeline to my xorg.conf,
and manually changed the resolution, but I did not fool it.  It was
great to see the screen at 1024x768, so I know it can do it.

I added a "1280x1024" mode to my xorg.conf display list, and it not
change the behavior.

I was able to get 1280x960 by increasing the lower range for
VertRefresh to 70, and was able to get 800x600 by increasing it to 75.
I then played around with various other VertRefresh values, but had no
luck.  I also tried the Horizontal values, but the did not help.  I'm
using a flat-panel screen, so I don't think I can hurt it. I hope!

xrandr worked, though my IceWM menubar fell off my screen. xvidtune
could probaly fix that, if I could get the ModeLine command to have an
effect.


On Jan 1, 2008 12:09 PM, Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>>> "Xn" == Xn Nooby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> To make things obvious you will have to take a look at your xorg.conf 
> file
> >> Please do change  dir to its parent folder (cd /etx/X11/) and run
> >> cat xorg.conf | tr -s "\n" | grep -v "#"
> >> that should make your xorg.conf look simple and clear.
>
> Xn> Here is mine, which still wont go in to 1024x768 mode:
>
> You've 3 options:
>
> Xn> SubSection "Display"
> Xn> Viewport   0 0
> Xn> Depth 24
> Xn> Modes "1024x768" "800x600"
>
>
> 1. How about appending "1280x1024" to the above line. AFAIK, these modes
> are listed in the order of preference. See, if it works.
>
> 2. Another thing you can try, is to change the "VertRefresh", and
> "HorizRefresh" limits of your monitor, change them in such a way, so
> that X server won't be able to display 1280x1024 mode, resulting in
> switch to 1024x768 mode. Since 1280x1024 requires a lower refresh rate
> as compared to 1024x768, so .e.g. if 1280x1024 works on 60 Hz
> (vertical refresh rate), and 1024x768 is available in 60 Hz, 75 Hz, 85
> Hz, then you can increase lower limit of VertRefresh, to something
> greater than 60.
>
> 3. Another thing you can try is mode setting, switch to 1024x768 using
> xrandr. And then use "xvidtune -show" to generate modeline,
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $  xrandr -s 1024x768
>
> Now, in 1024x768 mode, enter this:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ xvidtune -show
> "1024x768"136.75   1024 1536 1688 1936768  903  909  942 -hsync +vsync
>
> NOTE: Don't use above modeline, thats from 1440x900 resolution, except
> that I changed 1440, 900 to 1024, 768 respectively :) .
>
> Now copy above modeline, and add to the "Monitor" section of your
> "xorg.conf" as show below:
>
> ModeLine"1024x768" 136.75 1024 1536 1688 1936 768  903  909  942 -hsync 
> +vsync
>
>
> HTH
> --
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Re: Resolution too high with 7-RC1, nVidia, xorg

2008-01-01 Thread Xn Nooby
> To make things obvious you will have to take a look at your xorg.conf file
> Please do change  dir to its parent folder (cd /etx/X11/) and run
> cat xorg.conf | tr -s "\n" | grep -v "#"
> that should make your xorg.conf look simple and clear.

Here is mine, which still wont go in to 1024x768 mode:

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "X.org Configured"
Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection
Section "Files"
RgbPath  "/usr/local/share/X11/rgb"
ModulePath   "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules"
FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/"
FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF"
FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType/"
EndSection
Section "Module"
Load  "GLcore"
Load  "dbe"
Load  "dri"
Load  "extmod"
Load  "glx"
Load  "record"
Load  "xtrap"
Load  "freetype"
Load  "type1"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Keyboard0"
Driver  "kbd"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Mouse0"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "Protocol" "auto"
Option  "Device" "/dev/sysmouse"
Option  "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
EndSection
Section "Monitor"
Identifier   "Monitor0"
VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName"Monitor Model"
HorizSync 24.0 - 80.0
VertRefresh 56.0 - 75.0
Option "TargetRefresh" "60"
EndSection
Section "Device"
Identifier  "Card0"
Driver  "nv"
VendorName  "nVidia Corporation"
BoardName   "GeForce 8300 GS"
BusID   "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor"Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 1
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 4
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 8
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 15
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 16
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768" "800x600"
EndSubSection
EndSection
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Re: Resolution too high with 7-RC1, nVidia, xorg

2008-01-01 Thread Xn Nooby
Here are the values I am experimenting with:

The Monitor Section:

Section "Monitor"
Identifier   "Monitor0"
VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName"Monitor Model"
#   Option "PreferredMode" "1024x768"
#   HorizSync 24-80
#   VertRefresh 56-75
#   Option "TargetRefresh" "60"
EndSection



A snippet from the Screen Section:


SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768"
EndSubSection
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Re: Resolution too high with 7-RC1, nVidia, xorg

2008-01-01 Thread Xn Nooby
On Jan 1, 2008 10:11 AM, Ashish Shukla आशीष शुक्ल <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>>> "Xn" == Xn Nooby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Xn> I am having trouble getting X to use a screen resolution that is less
> Xn> than the maximum.  When I edit my xorg.conf to add a DefaultDepth and
> Xn> a Mode of "1024x768", it still comes up at 1280x1024.  I did not
> Xn> create any modeline entries yet, since I'm not sure how to do that.
> Xn> My GUI (icewm) works, but browsing the web creates enormous eye-strain
> Xn> from the high-resolution letters.
>
> Xn> My hardware is a Dell Inspiron 530 Desktop with an nVidia Card. It
> Xn> comes with SATA CD's, so I have to install with FreeBSD 7-RC1.
>
> Xn> I started by running "xorg -configure", and used the xorg.conf that it
> Xn> generated.  I looked at /var/log/Xorg.0.log, and it had many entries
> Xn> from probing my hardware.  It appears there is some kind of dynamic
> Xn> configuration going on, but I know its using the xorg.conf, because it
> Xn> got an error when I changed the adapter entry from "nv" to "vga".
>
> Xn> I actually had a similar problem on Ubuntu, and they had some
> Xn> "xorg-reconfigure" program that would let you use less than maximum
> Xn> values.  I was wondering if FreeBSD had something similar.
>
> Xn> The "DefaultDepth 24" and "Modes "1024x786"" entries are from the
> Xn> online FreeBSD Handbook, I believe I followed the Handbook
> Xn> instructions properly.
>
> Xn> Am I missing something obvious?  From using Linux, I was expecting the
> Xn> "Modes" values to work.
>
> "TargetRefresh", and "PreferredMode" options, available in recent Xorg
> releases (probably since 7.2), you'll require. I'm using
> "TargetRefresh" (75 Hz) on my Intel 945G graphics to set my monitor to
> display 1440x900 rather than 1280x1024. And this same configuration is
> working fine for both FreeBSD 7.0-BETA4 (amd64), and Ubuntu 7.10 (amd64).
>
> HTH
> --
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>

When I create a "PreferredMode" value, the X-Server hangs when I run
startx.  I cannot end X with ctrl-alt-backspace, but I can reboot with
ctrl-alt-del.  I am using xorg 7.3 (installed via 'pkg_add -r xorg'),
and this was apparently a known bug.  I'm not sure if it is supposed
to be fixed in now, the bug was from September:

http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12476

I also tried "TargetRefresh" with values of 60 and 75, but it did not
seem to do anything. When you use TargetRefresh, is that with the
Horizontal and Vertical refresh values - or does it replace them?
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Resolution too high with 7-RC1, nVidia, xorg

2008-01-01 Thread Xn Nooby
I am having trouble getting X to use a screen resolution that is less
than the maximum.  When I edit my xorg.conf to add a DefaultDepth and
a Mode of "1024x768", it still comes up at 1280x1024.  I did not
create any modeline entries yet, since I'm not sure how to do that.
My GUI (icewm) works, but browsing the web creates enormous eye-strain
from the high-resolution letters.

My hardware is a Dell Inspiron 530 Desktop with an nVidia Card. It
comes with SATA CD's, so I have to install with FreeBSD 7-RC1.

I started by running "xorg -configure", and used the xorg.conf that it
generated.  I looked at /var/log/Xorg.0.log, and it had many entries
from probing my hardware.  It appears there is some kind of dynamic
configuration going on, but I know its using the xorg.conf, because it
got an error when I changed the adapter entry from "nv" to "vga".

I actually had a similar problem on Ubuntu, and they had some
"xorg-reconfigure" program that would let you use less than maximum
values.  I was wondering if FreeBSD had something similar.

The "DefaultDepth 24" and "Modes "1024x786"" entries are from the
online FreeBSD Handbook, I believe I followed the Handbook
instructions properly.

Am I missing something obvious?  From using Linux, I was expecting the
"Modes" values to work.
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Re: How do I make 6.0-RELEASE see cdrom in Virtual PC 7 (OS X)?

2006-03-21 Thread Xn Nooby
I posted about this a few months ago, and emailed the guy at Microsoft who
has the blog about VPC7.  I never got anywhere, and eventually gave up. His
blogchart says FreeBSD "works" with VPC7, which seemed wrong to me.



On 3/20/06, Rocco Caputo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The good news is that FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE ISOs and floppy images boot
> under Virtual PC 7.0.2 for OS X.  Networking works, and I can install
> the rest of the system from FTP.
>
> The bad news is that it doesn't see the cdrom once it has booted, so
> it can't install anything from CD.  I already downloaded the ISOs, so
> I'd prefer to just grab the files from them.  As a compromise, I'll
> probably set up an ftpd on my LAN, but I'd really like to get the
> cdrom working.
>
> Does anyone have notes to make this work?  Kernel boot messages are
> included for the curious.
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Rocco Caputo - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://poe.perl.org/
>
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project.
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986,
> 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: The Regents of the University of
> California. All rights reserved.
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE #0: Thu Nov  3
> 09:36:13 UTC 2005
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/
> GENERIC
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz
> quality 0
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: CPU: Pentium Pro (1050.43-MHz 686-class CPU)
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: Origin = "Virtual CPU "  Id = 0x684
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: real memory  = 268435456 (256 MB)
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: avail memory = 253222912 (241 MB)
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: npx0: [FAST]
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: npx0:  on motherboard
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: npx0: INT 16 interface
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: cpu0 on motherboard
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: pcib0:  (AGP disabled)> pcibus 0 on motherboard
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: pci0:  on pcib0
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: isab0:  at device 7.0 on
> pci0
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: isa0:  on isab0
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: atapci0: 
> port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xffa0-0xffaf at device 7.1
> on pci0
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: ata0:  on atapci0
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: ata1:  on atapci0
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: pci0:  at
> device 7.2 (no driver attached)
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: pci0:  at device 7.3 (no driver
> attached)
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: pci0:  at device 8.0 (no
> driver attached)
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: ohci0: 
> irq 9 at device 9.0 on pci0
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: ohci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: usb0: OHCI version 1.0
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: usb0:  on
> ohci0
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: usb0: USB revision 1.0
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: uhub0: (0x2955) OHCI root hub, class 9/0,
> rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: uhub0: 15 ports with 15 removable, self
> powered
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: de0:  port
> 0xec00-0xec7f mem 0xfebff000-0xfebf irq 11 at device 10.0 on pci0
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: de0: 21041 [10Mb/s] pass 1.1
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: de0: Ethernet address: 00:03:ff:7e:ac:35
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: pmtimer0 on isa0
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: orm0:  at iomem
> 0xc-0xc9fff on isa0
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: atkbdc0:  at
> port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: atkbd0:  irq 1 on atkbdc0
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: kbd0 at atkbd0
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: psm0:  irq 12 on atkbdc0
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: ppc0:  at port 0x378-0x37f
> irq 7 on isa0
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in
> COMPATIBLE mode
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: ppbus0:  on ppc0
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: plip0:  on ppbus0
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: lpt0:  on ppbus0
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: ppi0:  on ppbus0
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: sc0:  at flags 0x100 on isa0
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10
> on isa0
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: sio0: type 16550A
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: sio1: type 16550A
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: vga0:  at port
> 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa-0xb on isa0
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: unknown:  can't assign resources
> (memory)
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: unknown:  can't assign resources
> (port)
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: unknown:  can't assign resources
> (irq)
> Mar 20 12:04:20 vpc kernel: 

Re: Is there a "stable" ports tree?

2006-03-16 Thread Xn Nooby
I like this idea.  It's not fun when you try to update your system, then
have to spend time fixing things.


On 3/15/06, Jason C. Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Kris Kennaway wrote:
> > On Sun, Mar 05, 2006 at 11:24:08PM -0500, Xn Nooby wrote:
> >> Is there a "stable" ports tree?
> >
> > No.
>
> However you can sup the ports tree for a specific release.  I run ports
> using "tag=RELEASE_6_0_0".  The reason I do this is that I find it to be
> much less work.
>
> I am a much more conservative user than many.  I really hate chasing
> down down upgrade dependencies even with the the very nice ports tools
> we have today.
>
> If you really wanted a particular port to be updgraded, you can fetch
> just that one port and build it.  This would give you a manually
> controlled psuedo-stable.  It would be more work though.
>
> Later,
> Jason C. Wells
>
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Is there a "stable" ports tree?

2006-03-05 Thread Xn Nooby
Is there a "stable" ports tree?

I think I read somewhere that RELEASE/STABLE/SECURITY/CURRENT is for the
"core" OS, and that the "ports" tree is always "CURRENT".  Is this true?

I would like to be able to update my ports with the best chance of not
hitting any snags, so I was curious.

thx!
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Re: ogle-gui needs liba52, but its already there ?

2006-02-26 Thread Xn Nooby
Oops. Never mind.

I was running the install on a machine I was shelled in to.

Sorry about that. I'm going to step away from the computer for a while.
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ogle-gui needs liba52, but its already there ?

2006-02-26 Thread Xn Nooby
I havent't been able to build ogle-gui.  It complains about 'liba52', which
I believe is already installed.  I deftly checked the UPDATING files, and
did not see any mention about issues with liba52.  I also tried Google to no
avail.  This failed about a week ago, and I was hoping it would be fixed -
or I would figure out my error.  I did a pkg_info to make sure liba52 was
installed, the output is pasted below.  Is anyone else having a problem with
ogle-gui ?

##
##

checking for dvdread/dvd_reader.h... yes
checking for mlib_VideoDCT8x8_S16_S16 in -lmlib... no
checking for a52_free in -la52-devel ... no
checking for a52_init in -la52-devel ... no
configure: error: Need liba52, install a52dec or specify it's location
===>  Script "configure" failed unexpectedly.
Please report the problem to [EMAIL PROTECTED] [maintainer] and attach the
"/usr/ports/multimedia/ogle/work/ogle-0.9.2/config.log" including the output
of the failure of your make command. Also, it might be a good idea to
provide
an overview of all packages installed on your system (e.g. an `ls
/var/db/pkg`).
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/ogle.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/ogle.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/ogle-gui.
az#

##
##

az# pkg_info | grep 52
liba52-0.7.4_1  A free library for decoding ATSC A/52 streams, aka AC-3
liba52-devel-0.7.4.2005112800 A free library for decoding ATSC A/52 streams,
aka AC-3
unzip-5.52_2List, test and extract compressed files in a ZIP archive
xmms-a52dec-1.0_1   A52 (aka AC3) decoder plugin for XMMS
az#
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Re: can't cd to /usr/ports/devel/libtool13

2006-02-26 Thread Xn Nooby
I think I got it working now, I had to run the perl fixing script, then I
did a "make install clean" on rox-filer.  I hope they don't take it out,
since that is the only file-manager I use!  I'm running fluxbox, so I was
surpised by all the gnome-stuff that was complaining.

To FreeBSD's credit, everything I needed to know was in the UPDATING files -
had I been looking at the right one, lol.

I learned a lot about FreeBSD today, thanks for all the help!




On 2/26/06, Kent Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Sunday 26 February 2006 12:10, Xn Nooby wrote:
> > > That port no longer exists. You can delete it and that is it.
> >
> > I did a "pkg_delete" on the libtool package, and that seemed to work.
> >  I was able to re-install most of the packages that I had to remove
> > when fixing libtool, for example xine abd vlc.  I am having a problem
> > with rox-filer though, I have tried to "deinstall" and "reinstall" a
> > couple of times. I thought doing a "make install" would pull in any
> > needed dependencies, so I assume this is related to my earlier
> > problems.
> >
> > Here is the error I get when I do:
> >
> >   cd /usr/src/x11-fm/rox-filer
> >   make install clean
> >
> > > --===>  Configuring for
> > > libbonobo-2.10.1_3
> >
> > checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c -o root
> > -g wheel
> > checking whether build environment is sane... yes
> > checking for gawk... no
> > checking for mawk... no
> > checking for nawk... nawk
> > checking whether gmake sets $(MAKE)... yes
> > checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of
> > Makefiles... no checking for perl... /usr/bin/perl
> > checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module
> > is required for intltool
>
> I think this is your error right here. I have had it before. They
> updated perl recently and you may not have a consistent set of p5-\*
> ports with respect to the new perl. Did you run "perl-after-upgrade -f"
> after you updated perl?
>
> FWIW, rox-filer also no longer exists.
>
> You appear to need www/p5-HTML-Parser but sometimes, the messages can be
> misleading :).
>
> I think you have a different problem. I looked at  libbonobo-2.10.1_3
> and the dependancies are
>
> Port:   libbonobo-2.10.1_3
> Path:   /usr/ports/devel/libbonobo
> Info:   A component and compound document system for GNOME2
> Maint:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Index:  devel
> B-deps: ORBit2-2.12.5_2 bison-1.75_2,1 expat-2.0.0_1 gettext-0.14.5_2
> glib-2.8.6_1 gmake-3.80_2 intltool-0.34.2 libIDL-0.8.6_2
> libiconv-1.9.2_2 libxml2-2.6.23_1 m4-1.4.4 p5-XML-Parser-2.34_2
> perl-5.8.8 pkgconfig-0.20 popt-1.7_1
>
> R-deps: ORBit2-2.12.5_2 gettext-0.14.5_2 glib-2.8.6_1 libIDL-0.8.6_2
> libiconv-1.9.2_2 libxml2-2.6.23_1 perl-5.8.8 pkgconfig-0.20 popt-1.7_1
>
> The problem is that the current version is p5-HTML-Parser-3.50. I think
> your problem might go away if you add the HTML-Parser. That doesn't fix
> libbonobo but you may be able to continue updating your system.
>
> Kent
>
> --
> Kent Stewart
> Richland, WA
>
> http://www.soyandina.com/ "I am Andean project".
> http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html
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Re: can't cd to /usr/ports/devel/libtool13

2006-02-26 Thread Xn Nooby
Have you tried /sysutils/portmanager yet? If not, you could try
> installing it and then running it, as root obviously, as thus:


I'm trying to avoid portsnap and portmanager for now, since I don't really
understand them - and they don't seem to be the official way (yet).  I
actually wish there was just one method that everyone used, instead of 3 (or
more), lol.

thanks!
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Re: can't cd to /usr/ports/devel/libtool13

2006-02-26 Thread Xn Nooby
> That port no longer exists. You can delete it and that is it.


I did a "pkg_delete" on the libtool package, and that seemed to work.  I was
able to re-install most of the packages that I had to remove when fixing
libtool, for example xine abd vlc.  I am having a problem with rox-filer
though, I have tried to "deinstall" and "reinstall" a couple of times. I
thought doing a "make install" would pull in any needed dependencies, so I
assume this is related to my earlier problems.

Here is the error I get when I do:

  cd /usr/src/x11-fm/rox-filer
  make install clean



> --===>  Configuring for libbonobo-2.10.1_3
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c -o root -g
wheel
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking for gawk... no
checking for mawk... no
checking for nawk... nawk
checking whether gmake sets $(MAKE)... yes
checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no
checking for perl... /usr/bin/perl
checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is
required for intltool
===>  Script "configure" failed unexpectedly.
Please run the gnomelogalyzer, available from
"http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/gnomelogalyzer.sh";, which will diagnose the
problem and suggest a solution. If - and only if - the gnomelogalyzer cannot
solve the problem, report the build failure to the FreeBSD GNOME team at
[EMAIL PROTECTED], and attach (a)
"/usr/ports/devel/libbonobo/work/libbonobo-2.10.1/config.log", (b) the
output
of the failed make command, and (c) the gnomelogalyzer output. Also, it
might
be a good idea to provide an overview of all packages installed on your
system
(i.e. an `ls /var/db/pkg`). Put your attachment up on any website,
copy-and-paste into http://freebsd-gnome.pastebin.com, or use send-pr(1)
with
the attachment. Try to avoid sending any attachments to the mailing list
([EMAIL PROTECTED]), because attachments sent to FreeBSD mailing lists are
usually discarded by the mailing list software.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/devel/libbonobo.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/devel/gnomevfs2.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11-fm/rox-filer.
az# ---

##
##

Here is my /var/db/pkg list that the error suggested I do:

az# ls /var/db/pkg
ImageMagick-6.2.5.5_2   fribidi-0.10.4_2
kqemu-kmod-0.7.2_1  libogg-1.1.3,3
open-motif-2.2.3_2  vcdimager-0.7.23_1
ORBit2-2.12.5_2 gamin-0.1.7_2  
lame-3.96.1
libtool-1.5.22_2openslp-1.2.1_2 vlc-0.8.4a_2
aalib-1.4.r5_2  gconf2-2.12.1_1
lcms-1.14_1,1
libvorbis-1.1.2,3   p5-XML-Parser-2.34_2
win32-codecs-3.1.0.p7_1,1
aspell-0.60.4_3 gettext-0.14.5_2
libIDL-0.8.6_2  libwmf-0.2.8.4
p5-gettext-1.05_1   wine-0.9.8,1
atk-1.10.3_1ghostscript-gnu-7.07_14
libXft-2.1.7_1  libxine-1.1.1_2
pango-1.10.3_1  wv-1.0.0_5
autoconf-2.13.000227_5  glib-1.2.10_12
liba52-0.7.4_1  libxml2-2.6.23_1   
pcre-6.6_1
wxgtk2-2.6.2_3
autoconf-2.59_2 glib-2.8.6_1
libart_lgpl2-2.3.17_1   libxslt-1.1.15_1   
perl-5.8.8
wxgtk2-common-2.6.2_2
automake-1.4.6_2gmake-3.80_2
libaudiofile-0.2.6  linc-1.0.3_5
pkgconfig-0.20  xine-0.99.4_3
bash-3.1.10 gnome-icon-theme-2.12.1_2
libcddb-1.2.1_1 linux-XFree86-libs-4.3.99.902_7
pkgdb.db
xmlcatmgr-2.2
bison-1.75_2,1  gnomehier-2.0_7
libcdio-0.76_1  linux-americasarmy-2.5.0   
png-1.2.8_3
xmms-esound-1.2.10_4
bitstream-vera-1.10_2   gnomemimedata-2.4.2
libdrm-2.0_1
linux-enemyterritory-2.60_1 popt-1.7_1
xorg-clients-6.9.0_1
cairo-1.0.2_2   gnu-autoconf-2.59  
libdts-0.0.2
linux-expat-1.95.7  portupgrade-2.0.1_1,1
xorg-documents-6.9.0
cdparanoia-3.9.8_8  gnu-automake-1.9.6
libdvbpsi-0.1.5_1   linux-flashplugin-5.0r51_3 
python-2.4.2
xorg-fonts-100dpi-6.9.0_1
compat5x-i386-5.4.0.8_5 gnu-libtool-1.5.20
libdvdcss-1.2.9_2   linux-fontconfig-2.2.3_2   
qemu-0.8.0_3
xorg-fonts-75dpi-6.9.0_1
cvsup-without-gui-16.1h_2   gqview-2.0.1_1
libdvdnav-0.1.10_1  linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2.10 
rpm-3.0.6_13
xorg-fonts-cyrillic-6.9.0_1
desktop-file-utils-0.10_4   gsfonts-8.11_2
libdvdread-0.9.4_1  linux_base-8-8.0_14
ruby-1.8.4_4,1
xorg-fonts-encodings-6.9.0_1
djbfft-0.76_2   gstreamer-0.8.11_2
libebml-0.7.6   linuxpluginwrapper-20051113
ruby18-bdb1-0.2.2   xorg-fonts-miscbitmaps-6.9.0_1
docbook-sk-4.1.2_3  gstreamer-plugins-0.8.11_2
libfame-0.9.1_2 liveM

can't cd to /usr/ports/devel/libtool13

2006-02-26 Thread Xn Nooby
I fixed most of the errors from my upgrade from 6.1 p#1 to 6.1 p#2, and in
the process apparently upgraded to 6.1 p#3.  I am still getting a libtool
error.

Earlier, I did a "make deinstall clean" on all ports that were using
libtool, and after removing about 10, I thought I had it fixed.  It doesn't
seem I am able to remove XMMS, though it appears to deinstall successfully
when I run the command.  Portupgrade still fails.  I'm not really sure what
it going on at this point.  I tried to do a "less /usr/src/UPDATING", but
now it doesn't show the entry that was in there last night.  An entry for
2/23 about libtool being moved, and there not being any easy fix.

Here is my error:

-
az# portversion -l "<"
az# portupgrade -arR
cd: can't cd to /usr/ports/devel/libtool13
** Package 'libtool' has been removed from ports tree.
** Port directory not found: devel/libtool13
** Detected a package name change: xmms (multimedia/xmms) -> 'xmms-esound'
(multimedia/xmms)
** No need to upgrade 'xmms-1.2.10_4' (>= xmms-esound-1.2.10_4). (specify -f
to force)
** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed)
!  (libtool-1.3.5_2)(port directory error)
--->  Packages processed: 0 done, 174 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 failed
az#
-



Here is the first entry in UPDATING:

-
Items affecting the ports and packages system can be found in
/usr/ports/UPDATING.  Please read that file before running
portupgrade.

20060211:
An IPv6 support of ipfw was enabled by default.  If you don't
want to filter an IPv6 by ipfw, please add following line into
your ipfw rule:
-

any suggestions?
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Re: libtool "port directory error" during portupgrade

2006-02-25 Thread Xn Nooby
Thanks, that indeed had the answer.  I guess I will reinstall.

On 2/26/06, Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Feb 26, 2006 at 01:55:44AM -0500, Xn Nooby wrote:
> > I was trying to update my system from FreeBSD 6.1 P#1 to FreeBSD 6.1P#2,
> > and after I did a "portupgrade -arR", the following text was in the
> output:
>
> Read /usr/ports/UPDATING.
>
> Kris
>
>
>
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libtool "port directory error" during portupgrade

2006-02-25 Thread Xn Nooby
I was trying to update my system from FreeBSD 6.1 P#1 to FreeBSD 6.1 P#2,
and after I did a "portupgrade -arR", the following text was in the output:


--->  Cleaning out obsolete shared libraries
[Updating the pkgdb  in /var/db/pkg ... - 196 packages
found
(-0 +1) . done]
--->  Skipping 'x11-toolkits/wxgtk26' (wxgtk2-2.6.2_3) because a requisite
packa
ge 'wxgtk2-common-2.6.2_2' (x11-toolkits/wxgtk26-common) failed (specify -k
to f
orce)
--->  Skipping 'devel/gnomevfs2' (gnomevfs2-2.12.2_1) because a requisite
packag
e 'libbonobo-2.10.1_2' (devel/libbonobo) failed (specify -k to force)
--->  Skipping 'x11-fm/rox-filer' (rox-2.4.1_1) because a requisite package
'lib
bonobo-2.10.1_2' (devel/libbonobo) failed (specify -k to force)
--->  Skipping 'multimedia/vlc' (vlc-0.8.4a_2) because a requisite package
'gnom
evfs2-2.12.2_1' (devel/gnomevfs2) failed (specify -k to force)
--->  Skipping 'x11/libgnome' (libgnome-2.12.0.1) because a requisite
package 'l
ibbonobo-2.10.1_2' (devel/libbonobo) failed (specify -k to force)
--->  Skipping 'multimedia/libxine' (libxine-1.1.1_2) because a requisite
packag
e 'libbonobo-2.10.1_2' (devel/libbonobo) failed (specify -k to force)
--->  Skipping 'multimedia/xine' (xine-0.99.4_3) because a requisite package
'li
bbonobo-2.10.1_2' (devel/libbonobo) failed (specify -k to force)
--->  Skipping 'x11-toolkits/libbonoboui' (libbonoboui-2.10.1_1) because a
requi
site package 'libbonobo-2.10.1_2' (devel/libbonobo) failed (specify -k to
force)
--->  Skipping 'x11-toolkits/libgnomeui' (libgnomeui-2.12.1) because a
requisite
 package 'libbonobo-2.10.1_2' (devel/libbonobo) failed (specify -k to force)
--->  Skipping 'editors/abiword' (abiword-2.4.2) because a requisite package
'li
bbonobo-2.10.1_2' (devel/libbonobo) failed (specify -k to force)
--->  Skipping 'editors/abiword-plugins' (abiword-plugins-2.4.2) because a
requi
site package 'abiword-2.4.2' (editors/abiword) failed (specify -k to force)
--->  Skipping 'devel/anjuta' (anjuta-1.2.4_3) because a requisite package
'libb
onobo-2.10.1_2' (devel/libbonobo) failed (specify -k to force)
** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed)
!  (libtool-1.3.5_2)(port directory error)
! textproc/scrollkeeper (scrollkeeper-0.3.14_3,1)   (unknown
build e
rror)
* audio/sdl_mixer (sdl_mixer-1.2.6_1)
* games/race (race-0.5_2)
! devel/libbonobo (libbonobo-2.10.1_2)  (configure error)
! print/libgnomeprint (libgnomeprint-2.12.1)(configure error)
* www/nvu (nvu-1.0_1)
* x11-toolkits/vte (vte-0.11.18)
* security/gnomekeyring (gnomekeyring-0.4.7)
* x11/nvidia-settings (nvidia-settings-1.0_8)
* x11-toolkits/wxgtk26-common (wxgtk2-common-2.6.2_2)
* graphics/gqview (gqview-2.0.1_1)
* misc/gnome-icon-theme (gnome-icon-theme-2.12.1_2)
* devel/libglade2 (libglade2-2.5.1_3)
* graphics/libgnomecanvas (libgnomecanvas-2.12.0)
* x11-toolkits/libgnomeprintui (libgnomeprintui-2.12.1)
* x11-toolkits/wxgtk26 (wxgtk2-2.6.2_3)
* devel/gnomevfs2 (gnomevfs2-2.12.2_1)
* x11-fm/rox-filer (rox-2.4.1_1)
* multimedia/vlc (vlc-0.8.4a_2)
* x11/libgnome (libgnome-2.12.0.1)
* multimedia/libxine (libxine-1.1.1_2)
* multimedia/xine (xine-0.99.4_3)
* x11-toolkits/libbonoboui (libbonoboui-2.10.1_1)
* x11-toolkits/libgnomeui (libgnomeui-2.12.1)
* editors/abiword (abiword-2.4.2)
* editors/abiword-plugins (abiword-plugins-2.4.2)
* devel/anjuta (anjuta-1.2.4_3)
--->  Packages processed: 6 done, 162 ignored, 24 skipped and 4 failed


If I force it by using "portupgrade -arRf", is there a chance I will break
it?

I know I've asked in the past, but if anyone knows of a foolproof way of
updating FreeBSD, I would love to learn it.

I did a "cvsup", "make buildworld", "make buildkernel", etc, then "portsdb
-uU", and finally the "portupgrade -arR".   I can post my update procedure
if required (I also posted it 2 weeks ago when I was trying to get portsnap
to work).

Any suggestions on how to build the skipped and failed ports? And any
suggestions on making a foolproof update procedure?
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Re: WinSCP mega-slowness

2006-02-20 Thread Xn Nooby
would doing a 'make install clean' inside /usr/ports/security/hpn-ssh  fix
the default scp program?



On 2/20/06, fbsd_user <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> There is a patch to OpenSSH to fix the buffer size problem caused be
> the different operating systems OpenSSH runs on.  When the host and
> remote are different operating systems the send/receive buffer sizes
> do not match and this causes drastic slow down. Like in using Winscp
> client connecting to a FreeBSD box or Linux box.
>
> ports/security/hpn-ssh/
>
> contains the patch code to fix this problem in sshd/ssh.
>
> Check out the patches home page at
> http://www.psc.edu/networking/projects/hpn-ssh/
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Martin
> Hepworth
> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 2:16 PM
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: WinSCP mega-slowness
>
>
> Hate to do a me too, but I gotta agree.
>
> I did the same file transfer using cygwin's scp and winscp and cygwin
> was
> about 10x faster.
>
>
> On 2/20/06, Xn Nooby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > For about a year I have noticed that whenever my Windows boxes talk
> to my
> > Unix boxes, they communicate at about 1/10 normal speed. I copy lots
> > (300GB)
> > of large files back and forth between machines as I try different
> OS's,
> > and
> > I always see this.
> >
> > Specifically, if I copy from FreeBSD to FreeBSD, files transfer at
> 11 megs
> > per second.  Between FreeBSD and Linux, at about 8 megs per
> > second.  Between
> > FreeBSD and Windows, about 1 megabyte per second.  This is on
> identical
> > hardware.  I've told other people about this, and they usually say I
> must
> > be
> > doing something wrong, but recently a friend of mine upgraded a
> Windows
> > box
> > to SP2, and now they are getting this same slowness.  When I copy
> from
> > Windows to WIndows (XP or W2k), I get 11 megs per second.
> >
> > My machines are two P4's with gigabit NICs, and I'm using WinSCP and
> > (somtimes) pscp.exe on WIndows to talk to sshd on FreeBSD.  It's
> always a
> > shock when I have to copy my data to WIndows, and it takes 30 hours
> > instead
> > of 3.
> >
> > Does anyone else ever see this slowness when copying files between
> FreeBSD
> > and Windows?
> >
> > Is Windows maybe capping the transfer speed when it talks to Unix?
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Re: Download

2006-02-20 Thread Xn Nooby
Maybe try this download manager:

http://www.freedownloadmanager.org




On 2/20/06, Jerry McAllister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> > Dear Developers:
> >
> >
> > I have been trying (FOR A LONGTIME) to download a FreeBSD Unix OS (i.e.
> 5.4,
> > 6.0-RELEASE iso.i386).  But it has never worked.  I was wondering if
> your
> > company/team/crew have disabled it.
> > If no then how can I go about doing that.
>
> It is not disabled.
> But your site or ISP may have set things up so that you have to
> use passive ftp or some port of your ports may be blocked by the ISP
> or a local firewall.   Those are the likely problems.
>
> Try switching to passive ftp first, or if that is they way you
> are already running, try switching to active ftp.   The FreeBSD site
> will do both.
>
> If that doesn't help, start checking ports and your ISP's policies.
>
> Good luck,
>
> jerry
>
> >
> > Thank You...
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Re: WinSCP mega-slowness

2006-02-20 Thread Xn Nooby
I can try that.  I'm not sure how to use Samba3, though.  I was trying to
help a friend use Samba, but I was use to Sama2, and Samba3 apparently
recquires a smb.conf file.  You use to be able to just do everything from
the command line, like (I think):

   smbclient //server/share /mnt/pnt -o
username=,password=

Apparently that doesnt work anymore, and I havent had time to figure out the
new way.  I think smbclient isn't even part of Samab3 (it could find it
after installing it).



On 2/20/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Well, it's good to know I'm not the only one seing this. Right now both
> > machines are running FreeBSD, since I gave up on waiting for Windows to
> > copy
> > the files.  The CPU load on Window when sending  1 meg per second is
> > usually
> > about 30%, while the Unix box is only at 1-2%.  When I have 2 Unix boxes
> > sending/receiving, I think the load is like 4-5% on both.  I'm building
> a
> > bunch of packages right now, so I can't get the exact number.  I could
> try
> > the openssh patch later in the week, that would be great if there was a
> > unix-side fix for this. Of course as I run FreeBSD more, and Windows
> less,
> > the problem will go away, too.
> >
> > thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2/20/06, Andrew Pantyukhin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 2/20/06, Xn Nooby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > For about a year I have noticed that whenever my Windows boxes talk
> to
> >> my
> >> > Unix boxes, they communicate at about 1/10 normal speed. I copy lots
> >> (300GB)
> >> > of large files back and forth between machines as I try different
> >> OS's,
> >> and
> >> > I always see this.
> >> >
> >> > Specifically, if I copy from FreeBSD to FreeBSD, files transfer at 11
> >> megs
> >> > per second.  Between FreeBSD and Linux, at about 8 megs per
> >> second.  Between
> >> > FreeBSD and Windows, about 1 megabyte per second.  This is on
> >> identical
> >> > hardware.  I've told other people about this, and they usually say I
> >> must be
> >> > doing something wrong, but recently a friend of mine upgraded a
> >> Windows
> >> box
> >> > to SP2, and now they are getting this same slowness.  When I copy
> from
> >> > Windows to WIndows (XP or W2k), I get 11 megs per second.
> >> >
> >> > My machines are two P4's with gigabit NICs, and I'm using WinSCP and
> >> > (somtimes) pscp.exe on WIndows to talk to sshd on FreeBSD.  It's
> >> always
> >> a
> >> > shock when I have to copy my data to WIndows, and it takes 30 hours
> >> instead
> >> > of 3.
> >> >
> >> > Does anyone else ever see this slowness when copying files between
> >> FreeBSD
> >> > and Windows?
> >> >
> >> > Is Windows maybe capping the transfer speed when it talks to Unix?
> >> > ___
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> >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
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> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> >> >
> >>
> >> It is very certainly a known issue. Not that its specifics and
> >> origins are clearly known, but most of us stumble upon it
> >> sooner or later. You can usually achieve wire speed only
> >> between two OSes of a kind. TCP/IP optimizations are
> >> very important here: if they differ, performance plummets.
> >> Depends on a multitude of things from quality of NICs to
> >> weather in your area. I've never been able to get more
> >> than 70Mbit/s between FreeBSD and Windows XP. I
> >> always get 90-100Mbit/s between two BSDs or two Win's.
> >>
> >> As for your case, 1MB/s is a serious limit. What can you
> >> tell us about CPU load? Interrupts? Can you try this:
> >> http://www.psc.edu/networking/projects/hpn-ssh/
> >>
>
> If you have both the XP and FreeBSD machines on the same internal network,
> why not enable file sharing on the XP box and use Samba Client on the
> freeBSD box. I have found SMB to be a lot faster as it is running as a
> service on XP.
>
>
> Rob
>
>
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Re: WinSCP mega-slowness

2006-02-20 Thread Xn Nooby
Well, it's good to know I'm not the only one seing this. Right now both
machines are running FreeBSD, since I gave up on waiting for Windows to copy
the files.  The CPU load on Window when sending  1 meg per second is usually
about 30%, while the Unix box is only at 1-2%.  When I have 2 Unix boxes
sending/receiving, I think the load is like 4-5% on both.  I'm building a
bunch of packages right now, so I can't get the exact number.  I could try
the openssh patch later in the week, that would be great if there was a
unix-side fix for this. Of course as I run FreeBSD more, and Windows less,
the problem will go away, too.

thanks!



On 2/20/06, Andrew Pantyukhin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 2/20/06, Xn Nooby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > For about a year I have noticed that whenever my Windows boxes talk to
> my
> > Unix boxes, they communicate at about 1/10 normal speed. I copy lots
> (300GB)
> > of large files back and forth between machines as I try different OS's,
> and
> > I always see this.
> >
> > Specifically, if I copy from FreeBSD to FreeBSD, files transfer at 11
> megs
> > per second.  Between FreeBSD and Linux, at about 8 megs per
> second.  Between
> > FreeBSD and Windows, about 1 megabyte per second.  This is on identical
> > hardware.  I've told other people about this, and they usually say I
> must be
> > doing something wrong, but recently a friend of mine upgraded a Windows
> box
> > to SP2, and now they are getting this same slowness.  When I copy from
> > Windows to WIndows (XP or W2k), I get 11 megs per second.
> >
> > My machines are two P4's with gigabit NICs, and I'm using WinSCP and
> > (somtimes) pscp.exe on WIndows to talk to sshd on FreeBSD.  It's always
> a
> > shock when I have to copy my data to WIndows, and it takes 30 hours
> instead
> > of 3.
> >
> > Does anyone else ever see this slowness when copying files between
> FreeBSD
> > and Windows?
> >
> > Is Windows maybe capping the transfer speed when it talks to Unix?
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>
> It is very certainly a known issue. Not that its specifics and
> origins are clearly known, but most of us stumble upon it
> sooner or later. You can usually achieve wire speed only
> between two OSes of a kind. TCP/IP optimizations are
> very important here: if they differ, performance plummets.
> Depends on a multitude of things from quality of NICs to
> weather in your area. I've never been able to get more
> than 70Mbit/s between FreeBSD and Windows XP. I
> always get 90-100Mbit/s between two BSDs or two Win's.
>
> As for your case, 1MB/s is a serious limit. What can you
> tell us about CPU load? Interrupts? Can you try this:
> http://www.psc.edu/networking/projects/hpn-ssh/
>
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WinSCP mega-slowness

2006-02-19 Thread Xn Nooby
For about a year I have noticed that whenever my Windows boxes talk to my
Unix boxes, they communicate at about 1/10 normal speed. I copy lots (300GB)
of large files back and forth between machines as I try different OS's, and
I always see this.

Specifically, if I copy from FreeBSD to FreeBSD, files transfer at 11 megs
per second.  Between FreeBSD and Linux, at about 8 megs per second.  Between
FreeBSD and Windows, about 1 megabyte per second.  This is on identical
hardware.  I've told other people about this, and they usually say I must be
doing something wrong, but recently a friend of mine upgraded a Windows box
to SP2, and now they are getting this same slowness.  When I copy from
Windows to WIndows (XP or W2k), I get 11 megs per second.

My machines are two P4's with gigabit NICs, and I'm using WinSCP and
(somtimes) pscp.exe on WIndows to talk to sshd on FreeBSD.  It's always a
shock when I have to copy my data to WIndows, and it takes 30 hours instead
of 3.

Does anyone else ever see this slowness when copying files between FreeBSD
and Windows?

Is Windows maybe capping the transfer speed when it talks to Unix?
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Re: fresh install, portupgrade fails on xterm

2006-02-19 Thread Xn Nooby
I did a pkg_delete and I think a 'make deinstall clean', then re-did my
update process - which worked.  All these months experimenting with FreeBSD
I never saw anything in the UPDATING that effected me, and the first time I
didn't look, it had the answer to my question, lol.

thanks!



On 2/18/06, Kent Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Saturday 18 February 2006 12:08, Xn Nooby wrote:
> > its depressing when a fresh install fails
> >
> > i followed my normal fail-proof slow method of updating a fresh
> > install, and it fails to update xterm, some of the messages are:
> >
> > ==> xterm-206_1 conflicts with  installed packages:
> >xorg-clients-6.8.2
> > *** Error code 1
> >
> > 
> >
> > ** Listing the failed packages
> >   ! x11/xterm (xterm-203) (install error)
> >* x11/xorg-clients (xorg-clients-6.8.2)
> >
> >
> > I'm trying to install FreeBSD 6.1.  I hadnt even gotten to
> > configuring with X, so I was surprised there was a problem there.
> > the command tat generated the error was:
> >
> >portpgrade -arR
> >
> >
> > I'm guessing other people will also be getting this error soon.
>
>
> Maybe they read /usr/ports/UPDATING where
>
> 20051113:
>   AFFECTS: users of x11/xterm, x11/xorg-clients, x11/XFree86-4-clients
>   AUTHOR: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>   Xterm no longer installs with '-static' prefix. Users should upgrade
>   XFree86-clients to 4.5.0_1 or xorg-clients to 6.8.2_1 or newer before
>   attempting upgrade of xterm to 206_1 or newer. Previous versions
> remove
>   xterm on deinstall so CONFLICTS have been set accordingly.
>
> It worked for me back in November :).
>
> Kent
>
> --
> Kent Stewart
> Richland, WA
>
> http://www.soyandina.com/ "I am Andean project".
> http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html
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Re: FreeBsd Help

2006-02-19 Thread Xn Nooby
PC-BSD is based on FreeBSD, but is easier to install.  Maybe demo that.



On 2/19/06, Kris Wieschhaus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>I am a college student at HLG college. I am a Computer Information
>Systems major and I have chosen to present FreeBSD to my class as a
>final project. I downloaded version 6.0 from the freeBSD Site. I made
>a bootable CD-ROM from the ISO image disc one. The installation seemed
>to have went ok, but when I go to put a password in for the root user
>nothing happens. When I type letters the insertion point (cursor) just
>stays in the same place as if no letters are being typed. When I turn
>it on now it seems to boot up fine. After I type in my login name and
>password I am unsure of how to install or run an application, which I
>am required to do for the project. I have tried finding a basic
>tutorial on the internet, but have been unable to do so. Please
>Help!!!
>  _
>
>[1]Find just what you're after with the new, more precise MSN Search -
>try it now!
>
> References
>
>1. http://g.msn.com/8HMAENUS/2755??PS=47575
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fresh install, portupgrade fails on xterm

2006-02-18 Thread Xn Nooby
its depressing when a fresh install fails

i followed my normal fail-proof slow method of updating a fresh install, and
it fails to update xterm, some of the messages are:

==> xterm-206_1 conflicts with  installed packages:
   xorg-clients-6.8.2
*** Error code 1



** Listing the failed packages
  ! x11/xterm (xterm-203) (install error)
   * x11/xorg-clients (xorg-clients-6.8.2)


I'm trying to install FreeBSD 6.1.  I hadnt even gotten to configuring with
X, so I was surprised there was a problem there.  the command tat generated
the error was:

   portpgrade -arR


I'm guessing other people will also be getting this error soon.
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Re: small freebsd laptop suggestions?

2006-02-17 Thread Xn Nooby
thats an awesome website!  I will check it out more thoroughly over the
weekend, they had a lot of used thinkpads

thanks!


On 2/17/06, Nikolas Britton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 2/17/06, Xn Nooby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I would like to get a small laptop dedicated to (desktop) FreeBSD 6.x,
> > ideally one that could run Win2000 inside QEMU and has an nVidia chip so
> I
> > can do OpenGL stuff.   Any suggestions?  It doesnt have to be superfast,
> > though I would prolly want to drop a 100GB 2.5" drive in it later.
> >
> > 2 years ago I foolishly bought a HP Pavillion, and I have to use an
> external
> > keyboard with it for FreebSD (or else it wont boot).  The HP laptop is
> now a
> > dedicated Windows machine (and I'd return it if I could).
> >
> > Is anyone using a laptop that they are happy with?  Maybe a refurbished
> > Thinkpad? (though I prefer to buy lapotops new, in case they are
> duds).  I
> > dont particularly trust the online lists of "laptops that work with
> > FreeBSD", since my other laptop is on one of them.
> >
> > I plan to carry the laptop around a lot, so I'm looking for something a
> > little smaller than average.  My HP Pavillion is about 7lbs, which is
> too
> > big.  Maybe a small Thinkpad, if they still make them?
>
> You want a Apple PowerBook err... MacBook Pro. I have a G4 model and
> it's sweet... anyways, if you don't want a Mac then look for corporate
> / large business orientated notebooks. They normally don't have all
> the stupid whiz-bang features found on home notebooks and are modular
> across product lines. For example I had and HP OmniBook 6000 (700Mhz)
> and desided I wanted a faster book so I  found a striped out OmniBook
> 6100 (1.13Ghz PIII-M) on eBay. It used the same batteries, drive
> trays, PowerBrick, etc. so I just used the ones from the old notebook.
> As for the OB6100 I have, I've never tried FreeBSD on it but SuSE 9.3
> Pro worked perfect. I Have Win2K on it now so I can run Multisim,
> Mathematica, Maple, and other proprietary software I need for college.
> (Going back to school for computer engineering degree.)
>
> You can pickup used notebooks at RetroBox.
> "RetroBox clients are Fortune 500 companies. When a Fortune 500
> company upgrades to leading edge technology, they leave behind a trail
> of some of the best maintained previously-owned desktop computer
> equipment available. Well, we're all over it!"
>
> http://www.retrobox.com/rbwww/home/search_results_pc_laptops.asp?bin_id=world
>
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Re: small freebsd laptop suggestions?

2006-02-17 Thread Xn Nooby
I forget exactly what I tried a few months ago, I thought I tried everything
everyone said.  The hints you mentioned look different, so maybe I better
try them. Maybe the hints came from another thread, after I had given up.
If my existing laptop can be made to run FreeBSD without having to attach an
external USB keyboard, I will be very happy.

thanks!


On 2/17/06, Micah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Xn Nooby wrote:
> > I would like to get a small laptop dedicated to (desktop) FreeBSD 6.x,
> > ideally one that could run Win2000 inside QEMU and has an nVidia chip so
> I
> > can do OpenGL stuff.   Any suggestions?  It doesnt have to be superfast,
> > though I would prolly want to drop a 100GB 2.5" drive in it later.
> >
> > 2 years ago I foolishly bought a HP Pavillion, and I have to use an
> external
> > keyboard with it for FreebSD (or else it wont boot).  The HP laptop is
> now a
> > dedicated Windows machine (and I'd return it if I could).
> >
> > Is anyone using a laptop that they are happy with?  Maybe a refurbished
> > Thinkpad? (though I prefer to buy lapotops new, in case they are
> duds).  I
> > dont particularly trust the online lists of "laptops that work with
> > FreeBSD", since my other laptop is on one of them.
> >
> > I plan to carry the laptop around a lot, so I'm looking for something a
> > little smaller than average.  My HP Pavillion is about 7lbs, which is
> too
> > big.  Maybe a small Thinkpad, if they still make them?
>
> No specific suggestion, just curious if you tried your pavillion with
> the settings that were recommended on this list a couple of months back?
>   Search for Pavillion laptop in the questions list.
>
> Quick recap: interrupt the kernel loading process, then
> set hint.sio.0.disabled=1
> set hint.sio.1.disabled=1
> set hint.atkbd.0.flags=0x9
> boot
>
> Works on my Presario (I know, not a Pavillion, but it's worth a try).
> Use the FreeBSD install disk to test it.
>
> As for specific laptops, find  one you like, search Google to see if
> anyone has gotten it to work with FreeBSD, repeat until you find one
> that works.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] might be a good place to ask
> too.  The archives of that list usually has several recommendations.
>
> HTH,
> Micah
>
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small freebsd laptop suggestions?

2006-02-17 Thread Xn Nooby
I would like to get a small laptop dedicated to (desktop) FreeBSD 6.x,
ideally one that could run Win2000 inside QEMU and has an nVidia chip so I
can do OpenGL stuff.   Any suggestions?  It doesnt have to be superfast,
though I would prolly want to drop a 100GB 2.5" drive in it later.

2 years ago I foolishly bought a HP Pavillion, and I have to use an external
keyboard with it for FreebSD (or else it wont boot).  The HP laptop is now a
dedicated Windows machine (and I'd return it if I could).

Is anyone using a laptop that they are happy with?  Maybe a refurbished
Thinkpad? (though I prefer to buy lapotops new, in case they are duds).  I
dont particularly trust the online lists of "laptops that work with
FreeBSD", since my other laptop is on one of them.

I plan to carry the laptop around a lot, so I'm looking for something a
little smaller than average.  My HP Pavillion is about 7lbs, which is too
big.  Maybe a small Thinkpad, if they still make them?
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What doesn't work on desktop FreeBSD ? (ex Webcams)

2006-02-14 Thread Xn Nooby
I bought a QuickCam Orbit MP, which I apparently must use under Windows (or
Linux).  From what I've seen online, not many (if any), people are using
webcams under FreeBSD.  I was curious if there were other things that also
were not realistic to do (I'm not complaining).

Some of the things that do work are my soundcard, nVidia card, gigabit NIC,
opengl games, wine, accelerated qemu, hp inkjet printer, and lots of
wonderful free software.  Qemu nullified my need for VMWare (though I own
5.5 for win and linux). OpenOffice, Abiword, and Firefox with flash and java
works.   Lots of stuff works.

I'm just curious if I am going to hit any roadblocks down the road.

(Maybe there is a way to get my Quickcam to work using the RH
8.0compatibilty layer)

thank!
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Re: fbdesk or idesk for fluxbox icons?

2006-02-11 Thread Xn Nooby
That also works on closing the fbdesk menu, thanks!



On 2/11/06, ajm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 02:45:47AM -0500, Xn Nooby wrote:
> > I'm trying to figure out fbdesk, but there is amazingly little to go on.
> > Does anyone have any sample config files?
> >
> > Or should I be using idesk?
> >
> > I have fluxbox 0.9.14 on FreeBSD 6.0.
> >
> > I also sometimes can't get rid of the fluxbox menu, which is highly
> > annoying.
> >
> > thanks!
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> Since I don't use the fbdesk or idesk only thing I can help you with
> is the menu.  I am using fluxbox 0.1.14.  To hide the main menu
> again, right click on the menu title.
>
> maybe this will help for fbdesk...
> http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/fbdesk/
>
>
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Re: changelog for 6.1 ?

2006-02-11 Thread Xn Nooby
Ok, thanks.  I went here:

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/CVSROOT/

but I don't see a changelog, or a file that looks like one.  I'm still not
very familiar with FreeBSD, I  guess I will wait for the official release.

thx



On 2/11/06, Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 01:11:22AM -0500, Xn Nooby wrote:
> > Do you know what the URL is?  I'm looking around here:
> >
> > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD
>
> http://cvsweb.freebsd.org/ (as 10 seconds with google would have shown
> you ;-)
>
> Kris
>
>
>
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fbdesk or idesk for fluxbox icons?

2006-02-10 Thread Xn Nooby
I'm trying to figure out fbdesk, but there is amazingly little to go on.
Does anyone have any sample config files?

Or should I be using idesk?

I have fluxbox 0.9.14 on FreeBSD 6.0.

I also sometimes can't get rid of the fluxbox menu, which is highly
annoying.

thanks!
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Re: changelog for 6.1 ?

2006-02-10 Thread Xn Nooby
Do you know what the URL is?  I'm looking around here:

ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD




On 2/10/06, Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 04:32:43PM -0500, Xn Nooby wrote:
> > I was trying to find out if the keyboard on my zv5445us HP Pavillion
> laptop
> > will work, but I can't find the list of bugs fixed.  My laptop only
> works
> > with an external USB keyboard.
>
> You need to look at the CVS repository (in the CVSRoot directory),
> e.g. with cvsweb.
>
> Kris
>
>
>
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changelog for 6.1 ?

2006-02-10 Thread Xn Nooby
I was trying to find out if the keyboard on my zv5445us HP Pavillion laptop
will work, but I can't find the list of bugs fixed.  My laptop only works
with an external USB keyboard.

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2006-February/015418.html

"A lot of bugfixes havebeen made, some drivers have been updated, and some
areas have been tweaked for better performance, etc. but no large changes
have been made to the basic architecture."

And:

http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.1R/todo.html

That's all I've been able to find so far.
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Re: Why does portsdb -Uu run so long?

2006-02-05 Thread Xn Nooby
> portmanager -u -f -l -y
>
> will rebuild all of the installed ports in a logical manner as well as
> creating a log file for the user to examine if necessary.


I will try that, thx!

I will also look in to:
  portmanager
  portsclean
  portsnap
  portversion
 (any others?)
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Re: Why does portsdb -Uu run so long?

2006-02-05 Thread Xn Nooby
On 2/5/06, Robert Huff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Xn Nooby writes:
>
> >  Everyone that knows what they are doing never seem to have a problem.
>
> Respectfully, rubbish.
> I use portupgrade; where it seems applicable I am careful to
> mention one ought to read the manual completely, and to state my
> experiences where it has clearly and without provocation Done the
> Wrong Thing.  Similar behavior can be observed in other posters,
> with a statistical bias toward the more technically experienced.
> (Your mileage may vary.)


Okay.
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Re: Why does portsdb -Uu run so long?

2006-02-05 Thread Xn Nooby
> I want to ask you: how long does it take you to cvsup your ports, run
> 'portsdb
> -Uu', and finish with 'portversion -l "<" '? To run 'portsnap fetch
> update',
> then 'portversion -v | grep needs', it took less then 55 seconds and I was
> off upgrading ports. The procedure I used had no errors.


I think it takes about 40 minutes to run portsdb -Uu on my normal P4
desktop, and several hours inside a virtual machine.  My old P3 laptop took
2 hours.  Portsnap took about 1 minute, it was very fast.

"The procedure I used had no errors."

Everyone that knows what they are doing never seem to have a problem.
Generally people say, "I just did a 'portsnap -AbCdDeF' and it worked
great!", but then it turns out that command was one of many that preceeded
and followed it, which they neglected to mention.


Both ways of upgrading work. Neither way will tell you about the conflict
> between pilot-link and libmal. You're going to have to find out about
> during
> an upgrade or, or wait and read about it on the list. So you can't be
> talking
> about that as a problem with portsnap. Just what was the problem you had
> with
> portsnap?


I believe I had a "stale dependency with imagemagic" that I chose to "force"
to continue.  That was on a brand new install, and it happend twice (I tried
reinstalling).  Maybe I can try to recreate it in a VMWare virtual machine
so I can reproduce it.

I think I also got the ruby error, if that was the one that happend about 1
year ago.  I remember doing an upgrade which broke the system, so I
reinstalled it a few days later.

 Also, is it not possible to make a system that does not have conflicts?
Maybe OS's are simply too complex.  It would seem like there should be a way
to kick off a global update and rebuild that started with the core pieces
first, and then moved up the dependency tree level-by-level.  Something that
was 100% guaranteed to work, and took 1 command.
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Re: Any good OpenGL games?

2006-02-05 Thread Xn Nooby
On 2/5/06, Evgeny Solovyov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I play quake3, quake4, doomIII
>
> linux-quake3-demo
> linux-quake4
> linux-doom3-demo



 I tried quakeforge, but when I get a missing WAD error when I try
"nq-glx".  Are these games you mentioned complete? It will be great if so!
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Re: Any good OpenGL games?

2006-02-04 Thread Xn Nooby
On 2/4/06, Alastair G. Hogge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Sunday 05 February 2006 12:06, Xn Nooby wrote:
> > I have a P4 2Ghz with an nVidia card, so I installed the nVidia driver.
> > I'm currently installing 'linux-enemyterritory' which I think will
> work.  I
> > didn't know if there were any other good ones.  Is flightgear or gl117
> any
> > good?
> I just installed jfduke3d and downloaded the high res texture
> pack...brings an
> old great game back to life.


Ah that was a great game back in the day of 'lan parties' !


> I also have wine on my system, is it difficult to get windows opengl games
> > to run?
> OpenGL MS-Windows games under Wine seem to work ok.
> DirectX games are a little slow in my opinion.


Have you tried any I might have heard of?  Maybe Silent Assassin or City of
Heroes? (I'm not sure if they are OpenGL).  I've only used wine for zip,
7zip, winrar, freeagent, and some other utilty apps.  I wonder if wine will
detect that I later installed the nvidia OpenGL driver?



> I've heard of cedega on linux, but would rather roll my own free
> > solution if possible (or copy someone elses method).
> >
> > Playing "Call of Duty" would be ideal, or maybe Return to Castle
> > Wolfenstein.
> RtCW under Wine runs fines...most id games do I think. Also there is Linux
> binary of RtCW which is probably a better method then Wine.


Is this one a FreeBSD native RTCW?

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/pds.cgi?ports/games/rtcw

I lost my old Window pk3 file, but it looks they are free now:

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/games/rtcw-paks/

I will try it when Enemy Territory finishes.  It's taken 5 hours to download
ET, whoever is hosting 250MB file isnt giving up much bandwidth.  But its
free, so I'm not complaining. Much, lol.

thanks!
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Re: Any good OpenGL games?

2006-02-04 Thread Xn Nooby
I will try the games you guys mentioned, though I did not see Americas Army
in the ports tree.  Here are some I found (their homepages)

http://www.flightgear.org/Gallery-v0.9.9/
http://www.quakeforge.net/about.php
http://adonthell.linuxgames.com/art_gallery/index.shtml
http://game1.atitd.com/screens/thumbs.html
http://bzflag.org/
http://www.icculus.org/d2x/
http://deng.sourceforge.net/blog/
http://legacy.newdoom.com/
http://www.icculus.org/duke3d/
http://netpanzer.berlios.de/screenshots.html
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/games/nethack34/
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/pds.cgi?ports/games/rtcw
http://tenebrae.sourceforge.net/
http://torcs.sourceforge.net/
http://www.vavoom-engine.com/
http://www.wesnoth.org/
http://www.positro.net/trigger/
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Any good OpenGL games?

2006-02-04 Thread Xn Nooby
I have a P4 2Ghz with an nVidia card, so I installed the nVidia driver.  I'm
currently installing 'linux-enemyterritory' which I think will work.  I
didn't know if there were any other good ones.  Is flightgear or gl117 any
good?

I also have wine on my system, is it difficult to get windows opengl games
to run?  I've heard of cedega on linux, but would rather roll my own free
solution if possible (or copy someone elses method).

Playing "Call of Duty" would be ideal, or maybe Return to Castle
Wolfenstein.
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Re: Why does portsdb -Uu run so long?

2006-02-04 Thread Xn Nooby
By the looks of it when you cvsup you get everything (src-all,
> ports-all, etc) all at once. I think it might be better if you split
> that into two sup-files where you would have one for the system,
> src-all, and the other one for ports. This way you don't have to
> rebuild the system every time you update your ports, this also works
> the other way around. Once a branch is cut and declared -STABLE the
> libraries used to make your programs work are rarely changed, If it
> does change they will tell you in /usr/src/UPDATING. For the sake of
> troubleshooting it helps if you don't change everything all at once.


I thought that maybe by changing everything at once, I would avoid
mismatched libraries.

Someone should write a book on all this stuff, and explain it thoroughly,
with various case examples.  When I use the old slow way, I never get an
error - when I use portsnap, I do.  This makes me inclined to never use
portsnap, regardless of how fast it is.
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Re: Why does portsdb -Uu run so long?

2006-02-03 Thread Xn Nooby
> It just does, after you cvsup new ports cd into /usr/ports and type
> make fetchindex. what way is the "old foolproof way"?
>

Here is how I update my system (without using a 'make fetchindex')

  cvsup -g -L 2 /root/stable-supfile
  less UPDATING
  make buildworld
  make buildkernel
  make installkernel
  shutdown now
  cd /usr/src
  make installworld
  mergemaster
  shutdown -r now
  portsdb -Uu
  portversion -l "<"
  portupgrade -arR
  reboot

It takes forever, but it works everytime.  Everything else I've ever tried
has always had some kind of error, and I never know what they mean or what I
should do.

Maybe by never doing a fetchindex, I've never really updated my system, and
thats why its never had a problem, lol. That would be embarassing.
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cloop or zisofs or a better way?

2006-02-03 Thread Xn Nooby
I'm looking for a way to compress about 20GB of ASCII data in to a read-only
file that is as small as possible.  I found 'cloop' and 'zisofs', though I
could not find anything on the net where FreeBSD people were using them.
They are in the ports tree, so I figure somebody is.  Is there  a preferred
way under FreeBSD of doing this?  I've heard of people using "loopback"
connections, and I guess that's what cloop is.  Or maybe there is a way to
mount a tgz file? I'm using FreeBSD 6.x.

Also, is there a crossplatform way of doing this?  For example, if I had a
compressed volume, would I be able to read it under Linux and maybe
Windows?  I dont really need crossplatform, but was curious.
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Re: portupgrade xorg-* -> mouse-wheel stops working under X

2006-02-02 Thread Xn Nooby
I fixed this problem by killing moused and setting the device to /dev/psm0.
I thought it was just me!



On 2/2/06, Andrew Pantyukhin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> You can always tell xmodmap that you've got 11
> buttons (or whatever xorg tells you in its log). Just
> add ... 8 9 10 11 to the map and it will work fine
> once again.
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Why does portsdb -Uu run so long?

2006-02-01 Thread Xn Nooby
Since I've gone back to the "old foolproof way" of updating my system, I'm
doing a "portsdb -Uu" again - which has always taken forever to run on my
various machines.  Is there a way to speed it up (without replacing it), or
has anyone looked at it to see if it needs rewriting?

I worked at a place where a monthly mainframe job ran for 24 hours, and the
whole plant had to shutdown while it ran (which wasnt too big a deal since
it was on Sunday).  When the job started taking 36 hours to run and the
original programmer was too busy to fix it,  they brought in a consultant to
help.  He re-wrote the job so it ran in 15 minutes.  The original programmer
was fired two days later.  Since then, I've always been suspicous of jobs
that run for long periods of time.
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Standard way of updating 6.x ?

2006-01-31 Thread Xn Nooby
Is there a suggested method for updating a newly installed FreeBSD
6.0system?  I have found several websites with similar but differing
methods,
often somehow specific to the author's configuration.  What I usually do
first is install from a CD and get a bare-bones system bootable.  What I
would like to do after that is update the kernel, system programs, user
programs, and packages.  I usually end up using cvsup, portsnap, and
portupgrade with varying levels of success.

What I would really like is a fool-proof method that works everytime, if
there is such a thing.  For example, rebuilding things at the lowest layer
first, and working my way up.  I was following a websites tutorial
yesterday, and was confronted with a "stale imagemagic dependency", where I
chose to "force" an override.  I didn't know if I was doing some wrong or
not, and it seemed to work, but I would rather not have to force anything,
if possible.

Previously I had posted the steps I was using, and several people made
annotations which I was able to integrate, but I was mostly curious if there
wasn't some standard way. I am trying to use portsnap, since it seems much
faster than cvsup, but the handbook doesn't seem to have portsnap integrated
in to the rebuild steps yet (it is in the appendix I think).

There seems to be updates steps for 4.x and 5.x, but not yet 6.x, or maybe I
just have found them yet.  There seems to be a lot of ways to update your
system right now.
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Is there a way to take all defaults on a "make install clean"

2006-01-30 Thread Xn Nooby
I'd like to automate the 40+ ports I always "make install clean" on, and
always take the defaults.

Is there a way to make it not prompt, and just take the defaults?

thanks!
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Re: Is there a how-to super-page for FreeBSD?

2006-01-29 Thread Xn Nooby
On 1/28/06, fbsd_user <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Give the install guide at www.a1poweruser.com  a try.
> What you call add-ons is what FreeBSD calls the port/package
> environment.
> A very simple command of pkg_add -r flash will download and install
> it.



That's a very good website, it is bascially what I was looking for. thanks!

As for Flash, I has to copy an example libmap.conf, and make some
softlinks.  I think I did "make install clean" on it.  If I had installed
the package, would those extra steps have been done for me?
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Quickcam Orbit MP on FreeBSD?

2006-01-29 Thread Xn Nooby
I bought a fancy Quickcam (face-tracking), though I have no idea how to make
it work with FreeBSD.  I installed qcamview, but when I run it as root, it
says "Not found Quickcam, or Permission denied".

Anyone know anything about Quickcams on FreeBSD?  I don't expect it to work,
but it would be cool if it did.  There seems to be very little information
on the net about qcamview.

I'd be happy to just snapshots with it.  I'm using FreeBSD 6.0 and Fluxbox.
The cam is USB 2.0.

Any suggestions?
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Re: A strategic question

2006-01-28 Thread Xn Nooby
I have had a lot of frustration in learning Unix, but I stick to it because
I know it is the last OS I will ever need to learn.  Unix doesn't change, so
the effort you put in to learning it will never be wasted.  If you stick
with commerical OS's, they are going to drag you through every release of
their OS - as that is how they get you to give them your money.

If you can master Unix, you will never have to purchase software again, and
will rarely need to upgrade hardware.  You will be free of nag-ware,
spy-ware, entering license codes, etc.  You will never be a software pirate
or fear an audit.

If you want to simplify things, try this.  Install FreeBSD without a GUI,
and use it for 1 month.  When you remove all the fluff, you will be left
with the core system.  You will be forced to learn the fundamentals, and in
a simplistic environtment.  So many variables will removed from the
equation, that the math will be very simple.

Once you are proficient using the shell, enviroment, you can add a GUI, like
Fluxbox, KDE, or GNOME.  You will have deep a understanding of how they work
because you will already know the fundamentals.

You can also do a lot from a shell-enviroment.  You can rip/burn/play cd's,
browse the web, word-process, email, newsgroups, program, etc.  You will
also be able to do all those things *remotely*.

As far as I know, the people that work on FreeBSD work on it to suit *their*
needs.  As a user, it might suck that they don't have to please you - but
there is also nothing preventing you from becoming a developer.  Not having
to answer to anyone cuts both ways, the developers are not controlled by any
commercial interest or non-commercial interest.  It's very likely that being
"popular" is not as important as developing something they find useful for
themselves.

If you want the freedom that FreeBSD offers, you have to make the journey to
where it is at.

If it turns out FreeBSD is not for you, there is still good news.  The more
experience you have with the different Linux and BSD distros, the more free
you become.  All these system are based on the same fundamentals.
 Everything you learn will be useful forever.

If you want software to be Free, you can always pirate Windows apps.  If
*you* want to be Free, you are going to have learn how the Free systems
work.

I have tried many linux and BSD distros.  FWIW, FreeBSD is generally
regarded as one-notch above all the Linux distros.  Even before I tried
FreeBSD, I had heard it was the best in a number of ways, but also the
hardest to learn.  Most linux users seemed to think of the FreeBSD crowd as
older, better trained, and more disciplined  - and that the software
reflected this.  I have basically found this to be true.

People use to tell me that the FreeBSD lists were extremely unfriendly, and
I have found that to be completely untrue.  Usually if you show you made an
attempt to figure something out, and ask in the generally correct way,
people really try to help you.   I think the more focused lists expect more
focused questions, but that is understandable.  Ironically the linux forums
are where I have seen most of the "OMG RTFM NOOB!" type comments.

Well, I could go and on.  One thing I'd really want you to consider is that
the goal is - to free yourself.
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Is there a how-to super-page for FreeBSD?

2006-01-28 Thread Xn Nooby
There are several websites people have put together for Ubuntu that show
every little step for configuring Ubuntu, is there such a page for FreeBSD?

For example, tonight I installed Firefox, and wanted to install Acrobat,
Flash, Realplayer, and Java.  I was able to find Acrobat and Flash by using
Google (the solution was at bsdforums.org).  Realplayer and Java I still
need to find.

Here is an example of a really useful Ubuntu page:   http://ubuntuguide.org

The "Add-On Applications" is especially useful for people who have just done
an install, and want their machine to be a "desktop" machine.

It just seems like the only way to find out things for FreeBSD is to ask on
the lists, or Google a list archive.  It would be really great if there was
a "super-page" that had all the common add-ons.  I use Fluxbox instead of
GNOME or KDE, so  I prefer generic solutions.

I've been keeping notes as I play with FreeBSD, and will eventually put up
such a page if no one beats me to it.  I'm still a FreeBSD nooby though, so
it might take me a while.  There are some people here that bascially know
how to do everything with FreeBSD, I guess I'm hoping they will put
something together (or maybe help me).
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Re: Easy way to activate KQEMU for QEMU?

2006-01-26 Thread Xn Nooby
I de-installed qemu and kqemu, then I reinstalled qemu with the WITH_QEMU
option.  Before I could get KQEMU to work, I had to enter this command:

   kldload kqemu.ko

I've read that I can put this command in my /boot/loader.conf file

Now when I do a "info kqemu", it says KQEMU is enabled - so I think it is
working!

So far, I cannot really tell if it is faster, but I am assuming it is.  I
will do some benchmarks and check it out.

thanks!



On 1/26/06, Felix 'buebo' Kakrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 14:29:26 -0500
> Xn Nooby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Awesome, so I could either deinstall both and re-install kqemu, or
> > just rebuild qemu with the knob set?  (I don't know what a knob is,
> > but I think I can find out.)
> >
> > thanks!
> >
>
> Deinstall both and then cd to /usr/ports/emulators/qemu and 'make
> -DWITH_KQEMU install clean'.
>
> Cheers
> Felix
>
> --
> "If you want to realize what a ridiculous word 'lifestyle' is,
> consider the fact that technically speaking, Attila the Hun had an
> active, outdoor lifestyle."
> --George Carlin
>
>
>
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Re: Is this Handbook the Handbook?

2006-01-26 Thread Xn Nooby
I also prefer printed books, so I will probably get them.

thanks!

On 1/26/06, Mick Charles Beaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> To the best of my knowledge, they are. I purchased the user book and
> read it cover to cover because it was more convenient that staring at
> web pages.
>
> The online docs are more current.
>
> -Mick Charles Beaver
>
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Is this Handbook the Handbook?

2006-01-26 Thread Xn Nooby
Are these 2 books for sale here:


http://www.freebsdmall.com/cgi-bin/fm/bsdhandbk3.set?id=7kmQYrZG&mv_pc=284

the same as the online Handbook here:

   http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html

?
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Re: Easy way to activate KQEMU for QEMU?

2006-01-26 Thread Xn Nooby
Awesome, so I could either deinstall both and re-install kqemu, or just
rebuild qemu with the knob set?  (I don't know what a knob is, but I think I
can find out.)

thanks!



On 26 Jan 2006 14:17:55 -0500, Lowell Gilbert <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Xn Nooby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I installed QEMU from /usr/ports/emulation/qemu on my FreeBSD 6.0box.  Next
> > I installed /usr/ports/emulation/kqemu-qmod.  When I run QEMU, I enter
> "info
> > kqemu" in the monitor, and it says "kqemu support is not compiled".
> >
> > Is there an easy way to activate kqemu?
>
> Build kqemu-qmod *before* building qemu.
> There is a knob in the qemu Makefile to set kqemu as a dependency.
>
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Easy way to activate KQEMU for QEMU?

2006-01-26 Thread Xn Nooby
Hi,

I installed QEMU from /usr/ports/emulation/qemu on my FreeBSD 6.0 box.  Next
I installed /usr/ports/emulation/kqemu-qmod.  When I run QEMU, I enter "info
kqemu" in the monitor, and it says "kqemu support is not compiled".

Is there an easy way to activate kqemu?

thanks!
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Re: Post-Install update steps?

2006-01-24 Thread Xn Nooby
On 1/24/06, Xn Nooby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Is there a way to tell which are available as packages?  I would have
> guessed gqview would have been, but apparently it is not.  I'm also not
> certain I am doing the commands right, though I was able to install
> subversion successfully via packages.


I may have found the answer to my question (sortof):

ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/packages

ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/packages/All
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Re: Post-Install update steps?

2006-01-24 Thread Xn Nooby
Is there a way to tell which are available as packages?  I would have
guessed gqview would have been, but apparently it is not.  I'm also not
certain I am doing the commands right, though I was able to install
subversion successfully via packages.

thanks!

On 1/24/06, Robert Huff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Xn Nooby writes:
>
> >  I assume the available packages are a subset of the available
> >  ports, probably just the most popular ones.  Or are they all
> >  supposed to be available?
>
> Some ports are unavailable as packages due to licensing
> restrictions, most notably many versions of Java.
>
>
> Robert Huff
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Post-Install update steps?

2006-01-23 Thread Xn Nooby
After having spent a lot time waiting for my ports to build, I'm getting
interested in packages.  Apparently there is not a package for every port.
These commands fail:

   pkg_add -r xine
   pkg_add -r gqview

while this one works

   pkg_add -r subversion

Is there an easy way to tell what packages are available?  I assume the
available packages are a subset of the available ports, probably just the
most popular ones.  Or are they all supposed to be available?

thanks!



On 1/23/06, Kevin Kinsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Xn Nooby wrote:
>
> > Hi Kevin,
> >
> > Thank your for the thoughtful reply, I will be going through it
> > thoroughly later tonight.  One thing that caught my eye was
> > something I've never fully understood - the relationship between
> > packages and source.  I know some people use the precompiled
> > packages, especially for big things like KDE and Gnome.  If you
> > use those packages, and you later rebuild your world - do those
> > packages get compiled?  It would seem like you could run in to
> > conflicts if you had some software that was pre-compiled and
> > others that were built from source.  I try to always build from
> > source to avoid such issues.  Or perhaps you install te KDE
> > package, but later want to build from source to utilize some
> > optimnal compiler settings.
> >
> > Does FreeBSD rebuild packages when you try to rebuild "everything"?
> >
> > thanks!
> >
>
> Rebuilding your 3rd party "ports/packages" is a seperate operation.
>
> If I remember your original mail, you got into that at the very bottom.
> "make world" and friends only update the "base system".
>
> As to the "differences between packages and source", there
> aren't many.  If you have the ports tree installed, you can find
> this out yourself --- cd into something, say /usr/ports/editors/nano,
> and type "make package" as root.  You'll do exactly what the
> FreeBSD package building cluster does, only on a scale of one
> instead of 14000+.
>
> Packages are pre-compiled ports.  If you install a current set
> of packages when you install FreeBSD, you can then use a
> portupgrade-type tool to upgrade them.  You can tell the tool
> to compile fresh, or to simply fetch new (pre-built) packages.
> It's up to you.
>
> Now, your last 2 sentences are insightful, and a reason to
> use "ports" instead of packages after a machine is "up and
> running".  However, in installation, I'd see little wrong with
> using pkg_add to get going more quickly, and then set the
> box up to recompile stuff on nights or weekends
>
> KDK
>
> --
> Dr. Livingston?
> Dr. Livingston I. Presume?
>
>
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Post-Install update steps?

2006-01-21 Thread Xn Nooby
After installing FreeBSD, I would like to follow some simple steps to get it
fully up-to-date.  The Handbook and other online instructions seem a bit
overwhelming.  I developed some instructions when I was experiementing with
5.x, and I'm not sure if the are still valid for 6.x.  Do these instructions
look okay, or should I be using something else?

--

cd /usr/ports/editors/nano
make install clean

cd /usr/ports/net/cvsup
make all install clean

cd /usr/ports/net/cvsup-without-gui
make all install clean

cd /usr/ports/sysutils/portupgrade
make install clean

rehash

cd /usr/src
cp /usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile .
cp /usr/share/examples/cvsup/refuse .

nano -w stable-supfile
  *host = cvsup10.FreeBSD.org
  *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_6
...
  ports-all tag=.
  doc-all tag=.

cvsup -g -L 2 stable-supfile

less UPDATING

make buildworld
make buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC
make installkernel

shutdown -r now
shutdown now
cd /usr/src
make installworld
mergemaster
  delete hosts file !
  run MAKEDEV at end !
shutdown -r now

portsdb -Uu

portversion -l "<"
portupgrade -arR
reboot
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Will VMWare 5.5 run on FreeBSD 6.x ?

2006-01-08 Thread Xn Nooby
I notice VMWare 5.5 worked with Redhat 8, and FreeBSD 6 uses Redhat 8 for
its linux emulation.

Does the Linux version of VMWare 5.5 work on FreeBSD 6.x ?

I saw the VM 5.5 toolbox and some kind of "guest daemon" in the ports tree,
but it didn't look like VMWare 5.5 itself was in there.

I bought VMWare 5.5 for Linux, and assumed I'd have to run Ubuntu to use it,
but I would prefer FreeBSD.
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