Re: Netbooks & BSD
On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 15:50:12 -0400, Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Monday, October 04, 2010 a las 11:33:02PM +, Mikle Krutov escribió: Hello, list! I'm going to buy a netbook soon, so a question is which one. The choice is between 1) Samsung N127 2) ASUS Eee PC 900AX 3) MSI U120-094 Which one is the best for running FreeBSD? "The best" mainly is for opensource (e.g. not ndis) & stable wireless drivers. So, any good experience and suggestions? Thank you for your time! I have no idea about which would be the best one, but I'm using right now (in the moment of typing) an EeePC 900, details here: http://www.unixarea.de/installEeePC-8CURRENT.txt and this is just fine; HIH matthias +1 on EeePC, mine being the 1000. This uses a not-yet-supported wireless card (rt2860), but a driver is available and seems to work fine: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=7010 http://repo.or.cz/w/ralink_drivers.git (Contrary to the troll-bait happening in a similar thread right now..) Matthias took the plunge for KDE, which I do like, but for my Eee I went with Xfce. Matthias' work and documentation is more thorough than mine, so I'm looking thorough it for ideas. BTW, the specs on the 900AX make me think that Asus is using the model to offload old hardware. But if the price is very low, it still may be worth it. Personally I prefer to have an SSD instead of HDD, and I wouldn't want a screen any smaller than the 10". Brian ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Like it or not, Theo is having a good laugh ..
On Sat, 09 Oct 2010 12:47:04 -0400, Rob Farmer wrote: On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 05:30, Henry Olyer wrote: I'm not sure which writer said it, but whoever it is who started that paragraph with "Kinda wish you..." you sir are the problem. Not just a problem for us FreeBSDer's, but also for American's. While we are analyzing people's behavior, please don't top-post. You probably don't see yourself that way. I understand that. But what you are doing is surrilous. That's when instead of making the points underlying "Surrilous" isn't an English word, nor an obvious typo of one, so I have no idea what you mean here. your position you resort to name calling and bad mouthing. Any "name calling" I may have done was only after many other people did it first - the only difference is every message I've sent has the list CC'd. Disagree? Well, re-read what you wrote. See what I mean? I *still* see no explaination of why the EAR doesn't apply or why I am wrong - just tangents about my world view, etc. The only other person who actually addressed the issue of US export laws, Robert Bonomi, largely agreed with me. Is this an overly restrictive and outdated law? Probably, but it still exists. Rob, you are not the person that wrote "Kinda wish you...", right? So Henry's comments weren't directed at you? I'm just sayin'.. As for this thread, I am so like OMG, whatever, dude. Seriously. Do we need a separate list for licensing issues and amateur lawyer-ball? Because when it comes to legal opinions and forming license policy, I am not believing a word I read on this list. Some people may be right, some most certainly are not, but this is definitely not the forum for the discussion. Perhaps people interpret the word "questions" differently. Basically Theo did some bald-faced trolling -- in jest, mind you -- on a separate list, and that got imported to this list for more trollish fun. Enjoy. Brian ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Clean up / filesystem
On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 07:34:40 -0400, Eitan Adler wrote: On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Mike Clarke wrote: On Saturday 09 October 2010, Arthur Chance wrote: Not if running an X desktop, as all sorts of things get stuck in /tmp that are needed. In single user mode it should be safe, and it probably is when simply running on the console. As a long term solution, if you wish to clear /tmp every reboot add clear_tmp_enable="YES" # Clear /tmp at startup. to your /etc/rc.conf You may also want to consider changing /tmp to be a TMPFS file system add the line tmpfs /tmptmpfs rw,mode=01777 0 0 to /etc/fstab (and remove any other /tmp lines). A warning will come saying that it is highly experimental - but I've been running with it for a while now without any issues. I have been using tmpfs (mount /tmp in memory instead of on the hard drive) on my netbook to save writes to the SSD, and have had no problems. While there may be important stuff in /tmp at the moment you are running the system for some reason (like X, apparently), there shouldn't be anything in there that needs to survive a reboot, if that gives you an indication of the safeness of deleting things. That's my understanding, if I'm wrong I'd be interested to hear it. Brian ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Jail question
On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 09:32:44 -0400, Jerry wrote: On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 08:35:39 -0400 Fbsd8 articulated: Check out qjail. It has been submitted for addition to the ports collection, but the ports dept is very slow in performing their task of adding new ports to the system. So in the mean time you can get qjail from here. http://sourceforge.net/projects/qjail/files/ I have submitted new ports in the past and they were usually accepted and posted within a short period of time; usually 2 weeks or so. Perhaps there is a specific reason why this port has not been accepted/released into the ports system. Have you, or whom ever submitted the port, requested clarification as to why it has not been accepted/released? Before issuing a blank condemnation of the port's department it would seem like the logical course of action. If you don't receive a satisfactory reply with two weeks, then it might be worth escalating the matter. Just my 2¢. I'm pretty sure I've seen this conversation between the same people before. Ah, yes: http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-questions@freebsd.org/msg235282.html Noting that Aiza = FBSD8... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: help
On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 07:08:29 -0400, Boris Samorodov wrote: yanxinyou writes: how i install the firefox flash plugins http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/desktop-browsers.html PS. You definitely should get acquainted with the FreeBSD Handbook. Perhaps these are helpful? Just guessing from the name.. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/zh_CN.GB2312/books/handbook/desktop-browsers.html http://www.freebsd.org/doc/zh_CN.GB2312/books/handbook/ http://www.freebsd.org/zh_CN/docs.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Netbooks & BSD
On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 22:50:05 -0400, Mike Jeays wrote: On October 19, 2010 10:29:46 pm Gary Kline wrote: $150 is seriously in my price range [!] But what about the optical drive? If I can buy one on sale and install FBSD from a CD or DVD, do all optivcal drive fit all notebooks? (( I remember seeing ads on amazon.com saying that "people who purchased this notebook have also bought:) With a few things that I probably will buy. An optical, a 16 or 32G SSD ... &c.) So if there is a fire-sale at Costco or <> for an HP 9" or 10 Atom notebook, will I be able to use another vendor's optical drive? gary PS: I really _was_ current on hardware stuff. Back in the VAX 780 days :-) > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" I would expect a USB optical drive to work. I plugged an old DVD drive into one of those boxes that hold an IDE hard disk and plug into a USB port, and it worked fine on my (Linux) ASUS EeePC 1000. It looked pretty amateurish, but it did work. BTW, if you're thinking of getting the optical drive just for the install, it isn't necessary. Memstick install is really the way to go with these devices: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/install-pre.html#INSTALL-BOOT-MEDIA To be honest, though, getting FreeBSD running properly on one of these is really more of a hobbyist project at the moment, and requires some research, time, and experimentation. Yes, I have mine mostly running like I want, but I'd be a bit pressed to describe in detail all the steps I took, but it was more than a few, and my requirements were minimal. I could not give a solid reason for using FreeBSD on my netbook other than I felt like it, and because all things being equal I prefer *BSD. Maybe with lots of community participation enough documentation could be generated to make it more straightforward, but that is not the current state of affairs. Brian ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?
On Sat, 13 Nov 2010 12:37:48 -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 04:08:00PM +0100, Svein Skogen (Listmail account) wrote: Can we add this once-a-month question about Beastie to either the FAQ or the "resources for newbies" on the website? Now that is a good idea. jerry And when someone asks this question, somebody refer them to said FAQ and THAT'S IT, instead of this huge list of people saying "oh no, not this again", debates on religion, on whether or not the OP is a troll, and some outright insulting and rude responses. Please, everyone, the next time somebody asks this question, refer to the FAQ (which needs amended,) respond off-list, or not at all. Brian ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: just found this...
Is "just found this..." a subject? Seriously, how many times do we have to ask you to use descriptive subject lines? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Java plugin with Firefox 3.6
On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 06:46:16 -0400, Harry Matthiesen Jensen wrote: The short answer would be "not yet possible" or "just wait, will come later"... which in my "world" not is an answer anyone can use.. I've been looking for some indication as to how much later "later" is.. one week, one month, one year..? bds ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Java plugin with Firefox 3.6
On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 17:24:47 -0400, Chuck Swiger wrote: On Jun 7, 2010, at 1:08 PM, Jerry wrote: [ ... ] I honestly enjoy satire. That said, it does not change the fact that a serviceable version of Java, suitable for Firefox-3.6, does not exist within the FreeBSD framework. That's pretty much accurate, if you don't want to consider running FF+Java under Linux emulation. [ ... ] High-level religious arguments aside, could we get a little advice the for newbie who wants to try using FreeBSD, but needs Java to work with Firefox? (As this is the 'questions' list, and not the 'debate what fBSD devs ought to be working on' list.) Here's what I know, for posterity sake.. Firefox 3.6 needs Java 6 Update 10. [1] For now, as a newbie, I generally try not to install anything not in the ports collection. From there you can find some JREs, but none are at Update 10, including Linux emulation. [2] At this time, the highest I see there is diablo-jre-1.6.0.07.02_8. That's okay, I really wanted the full JDK anyway, so I look for that. [3] There appears to be four flavors available; diablo-jdk, openjdk, jdk and linux-sun-jdk: diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02_9 openjdk-7.0.86 (requires diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02_9) jdk-1.6.0.3p4_15 (requires diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02_9, and is "based on 1.6.0_03 (aka 6u3)") linux-sun-jdk-1.6.0.20 It looks like the Linux version is the only one up-to-date enough for Firefox 3.6. Would that only work with the Linux version of Firefox 3.6? If so, then one must go outside of the ports collection to get it. [4] At this time, the highest version I see in ports is linux-firefox-devel-3.5.9. I suspect the best thing to do would be to go with a current JDK and an older version of (native) Firefox, and not upgrade Firefox until the JDK version gets to Java 6 Update 10, allowing the JDK to upgrade naturally along with the rest of keeping my system up to date. If folks in-the-know around here agree with that, I'll probably start a new thread 'Which JDK?', as I find that confusing. Thanks, Brian [1] http://java.com/en/download/faq/firefox_newplugin.xml [2] http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=jre [3] http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=jdk&sektion=java [4] http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=linux-firefox ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Installing 8.1-RELEASE from the memstick
On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 05:03:07 -0400, wrote: When installing from the 8.1-RELEASE memstick, what is the correct selection for Installation Media? I'm not finding any mention of memstick in the Handbook. You want USB (assuming you did put the image on an actual memstick and not a CD or some other such oddity), but you may have tried that and had the some problem I was. I just did a memstick install yesterday and it wouldn't let me select USB as the install media, it said not found or something, but stumbled on the simple fix: When it comes time to select the media, go to the 'View/Set various installation options' screen instead. Press up-arrow a couple times to get to 'Re-scan devices' and press the space bar. In my case, it happens so quick that it doesn't look like anything actually happens, but it did really do something. Press Q to go back to the install menu, and go ahead to 'Media' and pick USB. It should then say 'Using USB device: da0a'. HTH, Brian ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Browser choices & flash
On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 07:46:53 -0400, Robert Huff wrote: David Southwell writes: [snip] 3. ADVICE PLEASE Most reliable browser combination and recomendations of specific port combinations which can deliver reliable browsing including flash capability. What "works" for me - doesn't crash, but sometimes can't handle the content - is: firefox-3.6.8 (or) seamonkey-2.0.6 nspluginwrapper-1.2.2_7 linux-f10-flashplugin-10.1r82 installed per the Handbook. A minor annoyance is the wrapper doesn't exit cleanly and tends to leave hung jobs; not noticeable resource sink, until you have 20+ of them Robert Huff Here is a possible fix available to the hung jobs problem: http://forums.freebsd.org/showpost.php?p=91872&postcount=5 (Not my work, I'm just pointing to it.) Although instead of a cron job I actually just use a launcher on a desktop panel that does killall -9 npviewer.bin (and IIRC rm npviewer.bin.core* or something like that, sorry it isn't in front of me right now.) This works for me because I only really need it after the wife has been playing games on Facebook using Firefox. I use Opera with www/opera-linuxplugins and don't have any problems. B ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask...
On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 12:46:35 -0400, Michel Talon wrote: Jerry said: "Starting in Firefox 3.6, you also need the new Java plugin included in Java 6 Update 15 and above." OK, this explains why my plugin doesn't work. So the only solution is to use the port firefox35 hoping that other components (flash plugin support) also work in this case. This, by the way, is probably the correct and only answer the OP was looking for. I had Java working just fine in a previous install, but hadn't bothered with it lately so I didn't want to answer the OP and possibly misinform. The OP didn't mean to troll (thus the non-descriptive yet truthful subject line), but we got treated to a big pointless discussion of whether or not Java is useful/evil anyway, with the added joy for some of us of receiving many copies of the responses thanks to the cross-posting. Sometimes people just want the _technical_ answer, not the _political_ one, regardless of the strength of your convictions. Brian ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Widescreen Monitor and X Help please
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 04:11:17 -0400, Scott Ballantyne wrote: [snip] Unfortunately I've hit a snag with X. I have an LG "Flatron" W2253, a 5750 graphics card and I have not been able to get them to work with X at all. Following the handbook's instructions: Xorg -config xorg.conf.new with and without the -retro option just give me a black screen from which there is no escape. I have to log into the machine from somewhere else on the network to reboot it. Killing the Xorg process doesn't help. So if you return to the tty that you started X from (maybe by Alt-F1) and hit Ctrl-C, that doesn't kill your X session? Reboot seems a bit drastic. Following the instructions on widescreen monitors, I have extracted a modeline from the log files: [snip] None of this has helped. If anyone can assist me, I would be very grateful. Thanks a lot, Scott I struggled with widescreen config for a while until I realized the Tao solution was best - have you tried starting X without any /etc/X11/xorg.conf at all? Brian ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
