Re: FreeBSD on a Mac Mini Intel?
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008, Tom Marchand wrote: snip Ian, You could always test it using VMWare Fusionand then let us know Er, Gee thanks. I'll just have a word with the VMware guys about fully abastracting the mini in software... back in a jiffy ;-) Actually VMWare has a Mac Version which is what the poster was probably referring to. ___ FreeBSD 6.x installs and runs well as far as I can tell on VM-Ware Fusion. This I Have done but I don't recall any specifics. I'm pretty sure I tried 6.1 and 6.3 but I forget which processor (amd64 vs i386). However personal preference: I'd rather run the box native FreeBSD and not have to bother with Mac OS X. I was actually musing that this (VM) might be a nice way to pre-install a complete custom system. Install, configure, add packages, tweak your fav kernel stuff, etc then dump/restore to a real disk and pop in to a physical system. I used to so something like this with NeXT systems. Twerked good. It all sounds promising enough to buy a new toy. I'll let you all know real soon now if/how I get it running. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD on a Mac Mini Intel?
On Nov 25, 2008, at 12:19 AM, Bill Campbell wrote: On Mon, Nov 24, 2008, Ian Jefferson wrote: On Mon, 24 Nov 2008, Andrew Gould wrote: On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 9:08 AM, John Almberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 21, 2008, at 11:42 PM, Ian Jefferson wrote: Is anyone running FreeBSD on a Mac Mini Intel? Ian, You could always test it using VMWare Fusionand then let us know Er, Gee thanks. I'll just have a word with the VMware guys about fully abastracting the mini in software... back in a jiffy ;-) Actually VMWare has a Mac Version which is what the poster was probably referring to. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD on a Mac Mini Intel?
Bill Campbell writes: [...] I haven't tried FreeBSD on the Macs. [...] -STABLE runs almost flawlessly on an 8-core late 2008 Mac PRO. Sometimes hangs as it's booting and you need to give the snd_hda driver a couple of hints to get sound out, but otherwise it rocks. g. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD on a Mac Mini Intel?
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 6:08 AM, Andrew Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 9:08 AM, John Almberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 21, 2008, at 11:42 PM, Ian Jefferson wrote: Is anyone running FreeBSD on a Mac Mini Intel? You could always test it using VMWare Fusionand then let us know ;-) With a vm, you wouldn't have to worry about Apple's hardware booting process. I have several FreeBSD 6.x servers in production running as VMs in VMWare Fusion, they work great. Portable, too. You can set Fusion to open your FreeBSD server upon starting, then you just put Fusion in your Login Items (under your Account settings in the System Preferences) so that it starts when the Mac Mini boots up. Give almost all the resources to FreeBSD and you'll have a fast machine. The other way to do it would be with Boot Camp, to enable booting to FreeBSD using the Mac's EFI architecture (there is no BIOS, only an emulated BIOS). You'll need that to be able to boot other operating systems like Windows, I have never done it with FreeBSD but do a search on the web for mac mini freebsd boot camp, others have gotten it to work. Start by telling the mac you want to put Windows on... The only caveat, it used to be that when booting the Mini you'd have to select the FreeBSD partition manually to start it up..a. maybe Apple already fixed Boot Camp though so it remembers what you want as default so that it's no longer a problem. Please let us know if you try it. kelly ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD on a Mac Mini Intel?
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 9:08 AM, John Almberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 21, 2008, at 11:42 PM, Ian Jefferson wrote: Is anyone running FreeBSD on a Mac Mini Intel? I don't know the answer to your question, but don't think it's a crazy one. One of the most interesting things I've seen, lately, is a hosting company that uses stacks of Mac Minis running OS X Server. They may not be the thing for mission-critical services, but for day-to-day web hosting, they are far better (IMHO) than the typical WinTel or Linux white box systems that fill colo facilities. Need redundancy? Plunk down another $500 bucks! One of Apple's coolest products, I think. -- John Ian, You could always test it using VMWare Fusionand then let us know ;-) With a vm, you wouldn't have to worry about Apple's hardware booting process. Andrew ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD on a Mac Mini Intel?
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008, Andrew Gould wrote: On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 9:08 AM, John Almberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 21, 2008, at 11:42 PM, Ian Jefferson wrote: Is anyone running FreeBSD on a Mac Mini Intel? Ian, You could always test it using VMWare Fusionand then let us know ;-) Er, Gee thanks. I'll just have a word with the VMware guys about fully abastracting the mini in software... back in a jiffy ;-) Ok any comment about other low power platforms? I'm sorely tempted to just buy one (mini-intel) and promise to write up the results on some web page somewhere. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD on a Mac Mini Intel?
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008, Ian Jefferson wrote: On Mon, 24 Nov 2008, Andrew Gould wrote: On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 9:08 AM, John Almberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 21, 2008, at 11:42 PM, Ian Jefferson wrote: Is anyone running FreeBSD on a Mac Mini Intel? Ian, You could always test it using VMWare Fusionand then let us know Er, Gee thanks. I'll just have a word with the VMware guys about fully abastracting the mini in software... back in a jiffy ;-) There's no reason one couldn't run all the normal LAMPS stuff on the Mac Mini with OS X. I have apache, postgresql, mysql, php, python, perl, etc. running on my PPC Mac Mini, all built from source. I haven't tried FreeBSD on the Macs. The most adventurous I've been so far is to put Yellowdog Linux on an old 450MhZ G4 tower, mostly to see how it worked -- pretty much the same as our other RPM-based systems running CentOS and SuSE. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way Voice: (206) 236-1676 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820 Fax:(206) 232-9186 We'll show the world we are prosperous, even if we have to go broke to do it. -- Will Rogers ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD on a Mac Mini Intel?
On Nov 21, 2008, at 11:42 PM, Ian Jefferson wrote: Is anyone running FreeBSD on a Mac Mini Intel? I don't know the answer to your question, but don't think it's a crazy one. One of the most interesting things I've seen, lately, is a hosting company that uses stacks of Mac Minis running OS X Server. They may not be the thing for mission-critical services, but for day- to-day web hosting, they are far better (IMHO) than the typical WinTel or Linux white box systems that fill colo facilities. Need redundancy? Plunk down another $500 bucks! One of Apple's coolest products, I think. -- John ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FreeBSD on a Mac Mini Intel?
Is anyone running FreeBSD on a Mac Mini Intel? I've looked around for a definitive discussion on the topic but couldn't find anything on this list or Google at least. I'd like to replace a couple of relatively high power-consuming servers with a couple of Mac Mini Intel's. For my purposes they are plenty good enough. I'd prefer to stay with the 6.X release for now. I've got a lot of Mac's around running OS X but in this case these boxes would be headless and without keyboards. An alternate serial console would be nice if that can be rigged up via USB and a serial converter. IJ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD on a Mac
James Jeffery wrote: Was wondering. Can i put FreeBSD on a Quicksilver G4? I know it already has Tiger on it, which is BSD based, but i have no use for Tiger at the moment. At college were using Windows, and my old BSD box now has windows on it so that i can keep up with college assignments. I still have BSD on the box, but on another partition, i loved FreeBSD 7, was really getting the hang of it and testing out its web server capabilities, its a nightmare switching the PC on and off just to run a temp web server to test on. Is it possible or is there a better solution? Cheers http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/ppc.html I haven't tried it out yet, but I plan on installing it on an old G4 I have that's currently running Yellow Dog. Best regards, Greg Groth ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD on a Mac
On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 12:03:30AM +, James Jeffery wrote: Was wondering. Can i put FreeBSD on a Quicksilver G4? I know it already has Tiger on it, which is BSD based, but i have no use for Tiger at the moment. At college were using Windows, and my old BSD box now has windows on it so that i can keep up with college assignments. I still have BSD on the box, but on another partition, i loved FreeBSD 7, was really getting the hang of it and testing out its web server capabilities, its a nightmare switching the PC on and off just to run a temp web server to test on. Is it possible or is there a better solution? If you have enough disk space, you could either dual boot with MS-Win and FreeBSD, or you could run vmware and then install both FreeBSD and ms-win virtual machines on it. jerry Cheers ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD on a Mac
Hi, Has anybody had success using Parallels on the Mac? I have been using it to support windows but had GUI problems with FreeBSD (with X and xfce4). They do not support FreeBSD 6.2 (according to their documentation). Thanks, Arend Jerry McAllister wrote: On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 12:03:30AM +, James Jeffery wrote: Was wondering. Can i put FreeBSD on a Quicksilver G4? I know it already has Tiger on it, which is BSD based, but i have no use for Tiger at the moment. At college were using Windows, and my old BSD box now has windows on it so that i can keep up with college assignments. I still have BSD on the box, but on another partition, i loved FreeBSD 7, was really getting the hang of it and testing out its web server capabilities, its a nightmare switching the PC on and off just to run a temp web server to test on. Is it possible or is there a better solution? If you have enough disk space, you could either dual boot with MS-Win and FreeBSD, or you could run vmware and then install both FreeBSD and ms-win virtual machines on it. jerry Cheers ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FreeBSD on a Mac
Was wondering. Can i put FreeBSD on a Quicksilver G4? I know it already has Tiger on it, which is BSD based, but i have no use for Tiger at the moment. At college were using Windows, and my old BSD box now has windows on it so that i can keep up with college assignments. I still have BSD on the box, but on another partition, i loved FreeBSD 7, was really getting the hang of it and testing out its web server capabilities, its a nightmare switching the PC on and off just to run a temp web server to test on. Is it possible or is there a better solution? Cheers ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD on a Mac
James Jeffery wrote: Was wondering. Can i put FreeBSD on a Quicksilver G4? I know it already has Tiger on it, which is BSD based, but i have no use for Tiger at the moment. At college were using Windows, and my old BSD box now has windows on it so that i can keep up with college assignments. I still have BSD on the box, but on another partition, i loved FreeBSD 7, was really getting the hang of it and testing out its web server capabilities, its a nightmare switching the PC on and off just to run a temp web server to test on. Is it possible or is there a better solution? Cheers ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You could also run FreeBSD inside of VMWare on your windows box. IIRC the VMWare software is free for Windows. There is also a port for FreeBSD (to run Windows in a VMWare with FreeBSD as the host) - but it hasn't been updated in a long time. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD on a Mac
On Nov 8, 2007, at 6:40 PM, Jack Barnett wrote: James Jeffery wrote: Was wondering. Can i put FreeBSD on a Quicksilver G4? I know it already has Tiger on it, which is BSD based, but i have no use for Tiger at the moment. At college were using Windows, and my old BSD box now has windows on it so that i can keep up with college assignments. I still have BSD on the box, but on another partition, i loved FreeBSD 7, was really getting the hang of it and testing out its web server capabilities, its a nightmare switching the PC on and off just to run a temp web server to test on. Is it possible or is there a better solution? Cheers ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You could also run FreeBSD inside of VMWare on your windows box. IIRC the VMWare software is free for Windows. There is also a port for FreeBSD (to run Windows in a VMWare with FreeBSD as the host) - but it hasn't been updated in a long time. for that matter, couldn't you run dual boot with windows and FreeBSD? (Like you can with Windows and Linux?) JK ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD on Apple Mac Mini?
On 03/06/2007, at 10:26 AM, Richard Tobin wrote: Does FreeBSD run well on the Mac Mini (x86)? I'm considering getting one to use for both MacOS and FreeBSD (booting from an external disk, if that's reasonable). Yep, it works fine. I used boot camp to create a small boot partition on the internal drive, and it loads everything else from an external USB drive. Thanks. A few more questions: - Any reason to prefer USB over Firewire? No, it's just what I had. - Do you have to use a boot partition on the internal disk? Can FreeBSD boot from external USB or Firewire? I am not sure. From what I understand, intel macs can boot from either USB or Firewire provided that they are partition using GPT. I used a boot partition on the external disk because I couldn't get it to work, and didn't care to spend much time on it. - Which release of FreeBSD are you using? 6.2-STABLE. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD on Apple Mac Mini?
On 03/06/2007, at 8:02 PM, Sam Lawrance wrote: On 03/06/2007, at 10:26 AM, Richard Tobin wrote: Does FreeBSD run well on the Mac Mini (x86)? I'm considering getting one to use for both MacOS and FreeBSD (booting from an external disk, if that's reasonable). Yep, it works fine. I used boot camp to create a small boot partition on the internal drive, and it loads everything else from an external USB drive. Thanks. A few more questions: - Any reason to prefer USB over Firewire? No, it's just what I had. - Do you have to use a boot partition on the internal disk? Can FreeBSD boot from external USB or Firewire? I am not sure. From what I understand, intel macs can boot from either USB or Firewire provided that they are partition using GPT. I used a boot partition on the external disk because I couldn't get it to work, and didn't care to spend much time on it. s/external/internal/ above :-) - Which release of FreeBSD are you using? 6.2-STABLE. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FreeBSD on Apple Mac Mini?
Does FreeBSD run well on the Mac Mini (x86)? I'm considering getting one to use for both MacOS and FreeBSD (booting from an external disk, if that's reasonable). -- Richard ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD on Apple Mac Mini?
On 03/06/2007, at 2:05 AM, Richard Tobin wrote: Does FreeBSD run well on the Mac Mini (x86)? I'm considering getting one to use for both MacOS and FreeBSD (booting from an external disk, if that's reasonable). Yep, it works fine. I used boot camp to create a small boot partition on the internal drive, and it loads everything else from an external USB drive. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD on Apple Mac Mini?
Does FreeBSD run well on the Mac Mini (x86)? I'm considering getting one to use for both MacOS and FreeBSD (booting from an external disk, if that's reasonable). Yep, it works fine. I used boot camp to create a small boot partition on the internal drive, and it loads everything else from an external USB drive. Thanks. A few more questions: - Any reason to prefer USB over Firewire? - Do you have to use a boot partition on the internal disk? Can FreeBSD boot from external USB or Firewire? - Which release of FreeBSD are you using? Thanks, Richard ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 6.0 and Mac File System
On 03 May 2006, at 11:38 PM, FreeBSD mailing list wrote: On 29 apr 2006, at 15:28, Yousef Raffah wrote: On Sat, 2006-04-29 at 09:11 -0400, John Cruz wrote: I don't know about HFS, but you can format your mac drives with UFS when you do a clean install of MacOS, at least then FreeBSD would be able to read them. You are right but this isn't my case here :(, I have an external HD which has HFS(+) file system on it and I want to use it with my FreeBSD 6.1-RC1 Any chances? Mac OSX can't be installed onto a UFS formatted drive as far as I know Yeah, it can. Most OSX programs won't run on it either you can format partitions or drives other than the system drive with UFS not only at the installtion Yousef Raffah wrote: What is the status of reading/writing to Mac's file system (HFS) or is it HFS+? it is HFS+ for Mac OS 8.1 and later Are they supported in FreeBSD 6.0? How about 6.1-RC? Can we write to that file system or only read at moment? Is it safe? I'm trying to find something in the /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/NOTES file but nothing is promising so far http://people.freebsd.org/~yar/hfs/ add this to your kernelconfig file: option GEOM_APPLE # Apple HFS+ support I was able to compile it on FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE-p6 but haven't had the time to check if it actually works. google for iPod and FreeBSD for more info :) Arno ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 6.0 and Mac File System
On Thu, 2006-05-04 at 01:38 +0200, FreeBSD mailing list wrote: On 29 apr 2006, at 15:28, Yousef Raffah wrote: On Sat, 2006-04-29 at 09:11 -0400, John Cruz wrote: I don't know about HFS, but you can format your mac drives with UFS when you do a clean install of MacOS, at least then FreeBSD would be able to read them. You are right but this isn't my case here :(, I have an external HD which has HFS(+) file system on it and I want to use it with my FreeBSD 6.1-RC1 Any chances? Mac OSX can't be installed onto a UFS formatted drive as far as I know Most OSX programs won't run on it either you can format partitions or drives other than the system drive with UFS not only at the installtion Yousef Raffah wrote: What is the status of reading/writing to Mac's file system (HFS) or is it HFS+? it is HFS+ for Mac OS 8.1 and later Are they supported in FreeBSD 6.0? How about 6.1-RC? Can we write to that file system or only read at moment? Is it safe? I'm trying to find something in the /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/NOTES file but nothing is promising so far http://people.freebsd.org/~yar/hfs/ add this to your kernelconfig file: option GEOM_APPLE # Apple HFS+ support I was able to compile it on FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE-p6 but haven't had the time to check if it actually works. google for iPod and FreeBSD for more info :) Thanks a lot, I will try it :) Arno -- Sincerely, Yousef Raffah Senior Systems Administrator -- Aren't you using Firefox? Get it at http://www.getfirefox.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: FreeBSD 6.0 and Mac File System
On 29 apr 2006, at 15:28, Yousef Raffah wrote: On Sat, 2006-04-29 at 09:11 -0400, John Cruz wrote: I don't know about HFS, but you can format your mac drives with UFS when you do a clean install of MacOS, at least then FreeBSD would be able to read them. You are right but this isn't my case here :(, I have an external HD which has HFS(+) file system on it and I want to use it with my FreeBSD 6.1-RC1 Any chances? Mac OSX can't be installed onto a UFS formatted drive as far as I know Most OSX programs won't run on it either you can format partitions or drives other than the system drive with UFS not only at the installtion Yousef Raffah wrote: What is the status of reading/writing to Mac's file system (HFS) or is it HFS+? it is HFS+ for Mac OS 8.1 and later Are they supported in FreeBSD 6.0? How about 6.1-RC? Can we write to that file system or only read at moment? Is it safe? I'm trying to find something in the /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/NOTES file but nothing is promising so far http://people.freebsd.org/~yar/hfs/ add this to your kernelconfig file: option GEOM_APPLE # Apple HFS+ support I was able to compile it on FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE-p6 but haven't had the time to check if it actually works. google for iPod and FreeBSD for more info :) Arno ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 6.0 and Mac File System
On 04 mei 2006, at 01:51, Peter A. Giessel wrote: On 5/3/2006 15:38, FreeBSD mailing list seems to have typed: Mac OSX can't be installed onto a UFS formatted drive as far as I know Most OSX programs won't run on it either http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106692 *** QUOTE *** Mac OS X can be installed on volumes of different formats. These disk formats have different features and characteristics. If you also plan to use Mac OS 9 or don't have a preference, you should choose Mac OS Extended (HFS Plus) format instead of UNIX File System (UFS). *** END QUOTE *** ah ok, my bad :( most apps don't like it though Arno ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FreeBSD 6.0 and Mac File System
What is the status of reading/writing to Mac's file system (HFS) or is it HFS+? Are they supported in FreeBSD 6.0? How about 6.1-RC? Can we write to that file system or only read at moment? Is it safe? I'm trying to find something in the /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/NOTES file but nothing is promising so far -- Sincerely, Yousef Raffah Senior Systems Administrator -- Aren't you using Firefox? Get it at http://www.getfirefox.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: FreeBSD 6.0 and Mac File System
I don't know about HFS, but you can format your mac drives with UFS when you do a clean install of MacOS, at least then FreeBSD would be able to read them. Yousef Raffah wrote: What is the status of reading/writing to Mac's file system (HFS) or is it HFS+? Are they supported in FreeBSD 6.0? How about 6.1-RC? Can we write to that file system or only read at moment? Is it safe? I'm trying to find something in the /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/NOTES file but nothing is promising so far -- Sincerely, Yousef Raffah Senior Systems Administrator -- Aren't you using Firefox? Get it at http://www.getfirefox.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD 6.0 and Mac File System
On Sat, 2006-04-29 at 09:11 -0400, John Cruz wrote: I don't know about HFS, but you can format your mac drives with UFS when you do a clean install of MacOS, at least then FreeBSD would be able to read them. You are right but this isn't my case here :(, I have an external HD which has HFS(+) file system on it and I want to use it with my FreeBSD 6.1-RC1 Any chances? Yousef Raffah wrote: What is the status of reading/writing to Mac's file system (HFS) or is it HFS+? Are they supported in FreeBSD 6.0? How about 6.1-RC? Can we write to that file system or only read at moment? Is it safe? I'm trying to find something in the /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/NOTES file but nothing is promising so far -- Sincerely, Yousef Raffah Senior Systems Administrator -- Aren't you using Firefox? Get it at http://www.getfirefox.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sincerely, Yousef Raffah Senior Systems Administrator -- Aren't you using Firefox? Get it at http://www.getfirefox.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: FreeBSD 6.0 and Mac File System
On 4/29/06, Yousef Raffah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2006-04-29 at 09:11 -0400, John Cruz wrote: I don't know about HFS, but you can format your mac drives with UFS when you do a clean install of MacOS, at least then FreeBSD would be able to read them. You are right but this isn't my case here :(, I have an external HD which has HFS(+) file system on it and I want to use it with my FreeBSD 6.1-RC1 Any chances? http://groups.google.com/groups/search?q=group%3A%2A.freebsd.%2A+%22HFS%2B%22+freebsdqt_s=Search http://people.freebsd.org/~yar/hfs/ http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_hfsplus -- BSD Podcasts @ http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FreeBSD on a Mac G3?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This may be a bit off topic, but does anyone know of a real, current version of FreeBSD that will run on a G3 Mac? I've looked at both Net OpenBSD, but I'd rather stick with one OS for all my PCs. I know, that Darwin is basically the same thing as FreeBSD and that very little has changed...but one of the main reason I love FreeBSD is because of the ports collection. Has anyone tried downloading the ports collection on a Darwin system and tried building anything? Thanks, - --Brian -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use http://www.pgp.com iQA/AwUBP4bNNERPmxonqOz6EQKeowCfX30jr6LPZJT/RhBBzgdyALeJWqcAoLE7 7/2F4SebTPbAVlI4xzJ/zonF =X5XT -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD on a Mac G3?
I may be work but FreeBSD is an Intel, I haven't see a PowerPC version. I had to use OpenBSD. Darwin is what Mac OS X is base on, you can use OS X with fink, and use thounds of BSD programs. Payne Brian McCann wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This may be a bit off topic, but does anyone know of a real, current version of FreeBSD that will run on a G3 Mac? I've looked at both Net OpenBSD, but I'd rather stick with one OS for all my PCs. I know, that Darwin is basically the same thing as FreeBSD and that very little has changed...but one of the main reason I love FreeBSD is because of the ports collection. Has anyone tried downloading the ports collection on a Darwin system and tried building anything? Thanks, - --Brian -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use http://www.pgp.com iQA/AwUBP4bNNERPmxonqOz6EQKeowCfX30jr6LPZJT/RhBBzgdyALeJWqcAoLE7 7/2F4SebTPbAVlI4xzJ/zonF =X5XT -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD on a Mac G3?
While there is a Ports system for Darwin/OS X, called GNUDarwin, avoid it, as it is notorious for breaking the basic OS install without asking. Fink is a better alternative, it's pretty much a port of the Debian package management system, with somewhat improved source handling. As it dumps all downloaded software in /sw, it doesn't break the base install. Very nifty. Works very well. OS X + Fink is a greak little OS, especially if you use 10.2 with Apple's X11 server. I run that on my old Beige G3, and it's quite decent. Adam Brian McCann wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This may be a bit off topic, but does anyone know of a real, current version of FreeBSD that will run on a G3 Mac? I've looked at both Net OpenBSD, but I'd rather stick with one OS for all my PCs. I know, that Darwin is basically the same thing as FreeBSD and that very little has changed...but one of the main reason I love FreeBSD is because of the ports collection. Has anyone tried downloading the ports collection on a Darwin system and tried building anything? Thanks, - --Brian -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use http://www.pgp.com iQA/AwUBP4bNNERPmxonqOz6EQKeowCfX30jr6LPZJT/RhBBzgdyALeJWqcAoLE7 7/2F4SebTPbAVlI4xzJ/zonF =X5XT -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD on a Mac G3?
There is a page on the freebsd website describing work on a PowerPC version, but it says they are almost ready to boot into Single user mood.. another words.. not done. It mentions that some of the code is in current, but doesn't really explain how you'd load it onto a mac, etc. Darwin has packages, but not a ports system from what i've read. You might as well use Mac OS X if you are going to use darwin since there is fink, and you get Java in OSX. I ran NetBSD on a sparc for some time. Its nice. I'm sure the PowerPC version is good as well. If I were you, I'd just pre-order Mac OS 10.3 and run that. You can't beat commercial apps and open source! At least X86 BSD users can usually run Linux software including games like Quake, etc. On Friday, October 10, 2003, at 11:16 AM, Brian McCann wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This may be a bit off topic, but does anyone know of a real, current version of FreeBSD that will run on a G3 Mac? I've looked at both Net OpenBSD, but I'd rather stick with one OS for all my PCs. I know, that Darwin is basically the same thing as FreeBSD and that very little has changed...but one of the main reason I love FreeBSD is because of the ports collection. Has anyone tried downloading the ports collection on a Darwin system and tried building anything? Thanks, - --Brian -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use http://www.pgp.com iQA/AwUBP4bNNERPmxonqOz6EQKeowCfX30jr6LPZJT/RhBBzgdyALeJWqcAoLE7 7/2F4SebTPbAVlI4xzJ/zonF =X5XT -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lucas Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] FoolishGames.com (Jewel Fan Site) JustJournal.com (Free blogging) Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein (1879-1955) ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD on a Mac G3?
On Friday, October 10, 2003, at 11:16 AM, Brian McCann wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This may be a bit off topic, but does anyone know of a real, current version of FreeBSD that will run on a G3 Mac? I've looked at both Net OpenBSD, but I'd rather stick with one OS for all my PCs. I know, that Darwin is basically the same thing as FreeBSD and that very little has changed...but one of the main reason I love FreeBSD is because of the ports collection. Has anyone tried downloading the ports collection on a Darwin system and tried building anything? Thanks, - --Brian I believe 10.3 is going to introduce a blessed ports system, which I'd imagine would immediately be adopted by Darwin. Just FYI. KeS ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD on a Mac G3?
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 14:09:39 -0700 Kevin Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday, October 10, 2003, at 11:16 AM, Brian McCann wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This may be a bit off topic, but does anyone know of a real, current version of FreeBSD that will run on a G3 Mac? I've looked at both Net OpenBSD, but I'd rather stick with one OS for all my PCs. I know, that Darwin is basically the same thing as FreeBSD and that very little has changed...but one of the main reason I love FreeBSD is because of the ports collection. Has anyone tried downloading the ports collection on a Darwin system and tried building anything? Thanks, - --Brian I believe 10.3 is going to introduce a blessed ports system, which I'd imagine would immediately be adopted by Darwin. Just FYI. I have been following the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list for quite a while, and if this is so, then it is a pretty tightly held secret. Any reason to believe otherwise? Regards, Stephen Hilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD on a Mac G3?
On Friday, Oct 10, 2003, at 14:21 US/Pacific, Stephen Hilton wrote: On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 14:09:39 -0700 Kevin Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe 10.3 is going to introduce a blessed ports system, which I'd imagine would immediately be adopted by Darwin. Just FYI. I have been following the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list for quite a while, and if this is so, then it is a pretty tightly held secret. Any reason to believe otherwise? Don't really know how to answer your question. Yes, I believe a standard port system will be introduced with Panther, because I saw it as an annouced feature on one of Apple's pages. Yes, I believe that any such system blessed by Apple would carry a massive amount of impetus if it's reasonably effective. So, yes, I have reason to believe otherwise. I guess we'll find out in two weeks. KeS ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD on a Mac G3?
On Friday, October 10, 2003, at 09:09AM, Mykroft Holmes IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While there is a Ports system for Darwin/OS X, called GNUDarwin, avoid it, as it is notorious for breaking the basic OS install without asking. or you can use the DarwinPorts collection, which has Apple support behind it (longtime FreeBSD users will recognize Jordan Hubbard is: he's on the DarwinPorts team). Fink is a better alternative, it's pretty much a port of the Debian package management system, with somewhat improved source handling. As it dumps all downloaded software in /sw, it doesn't break the base install. Very nifty. Works very well. I used Fink for quite a while but it seemed to lose focus on reliability. I moved to darwinports (which offers source code ports and packages) and it seems to work just fine. -- Paul Beard / 8040 27th Ave NE / Seattle WA 98115 / paulbeard [at] mac [ dot] com / 206 529 8400 weblog @ http://paulbeard.no-ip.org/movabletype/ ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
