Re: GUI mail client recommendations ...
Ok I'll bite. I installed fetchmail and fairly quickly had it retreiving mail into system. I installed mutt and spent 2 hours looking at man and muttrc. Wow. What I dont get is how mutt replies to mail I retrived from ' mywork.mailserver.com'. I have to use '' to send the mail. I think I do it like this. mutt sends mail as usual. Then, fetchmail -S smtp.myispmailserver.net The mail bounces from myispmailserver.net with an error like [EMAIL PROTECTED] (my private domain) is urecognized domain. (exact message escapes me at this time) The question is how do I tell mutt to send all mail out through ' smtp.myispmailserver.net'? Or maybe I need to configure sendmail or fetchmail differntly? Can someone point me to some sample configs or human readable help information? Thanks On 5/6/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: El día Saturday, May 06, 2006 a las 08:40:02PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier escribió: I've been using pine *forever* now and am finding it really hard to find a good GUI to replace it :( Tried kmail, didn't like it ... Off the top of my head, the only thing(s) it needs to do is: multiple identities IMAP PGP xterm+fetchmail+mutt+vi is all you need; anything else is just not usefull for real work; matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC PICA GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] - w http://www.oclcpica.org/ http://guru.UnixLand.de/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Bryan bc3910 'at' gmail 'dot' com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GUI mail client recommendations ...
On Mon, 8 May 2006 07:14:05 -0600 Bryan Curl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mutt sends mail as usual. Then, fetchmail -S smtp.myispmailserver.net The mail bounces from myispmailserver.net with an error like [EMAIL PROTECTED] (my private domain) is urecognized domain. (exact message escapes me at this time) The question is how do I tell mutt to send all mail out through ' smtp.myispmailserver.net'? Or maybe I need to configure sendmail or fetchmail differntly? sometimes i use mutt, this is the part in my .muttrc to get the from-address right : set sendmail=/usr/sbin/sendmail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -oi -oem -- grtjs, albi gpg-key: lynx -dump http://scii.nl/~albi/gpg.asc | gpg --import ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GUI mail client recommendations ...
El día Monday, May 08, 2006 a las 03:23:30PM +0200, albi escribió: On Mon, 8 May 2006 07:14:05 -0600 Bryan Curl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mutt sends mail as usual. Then, fetchmail -S smtp.myispmailserver.net The mail bounces from myispmailserver.net with an error like [EMAIL PROTECTED] (my private domain) is urecognized domain. (exact message escapes me at this time) The question is how do I tell mutt to send all mail out through ' smtp.myispmailserver.net'? Or maybe I need to configure sendmail or fetchmail differntly? sometimes i use mutt, this is the part in my .muttrc to get the from-address right : set sendmail=/usr/sbin/sendmail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -oi -oem Of course, you have to configure 'fetchmail' (normaly done in a file ~/.fetchmailrc) for fetching and sendmail for outgoing mail; in the M4-based rules files to generate the sendmail's submit.cf you may use something like define(`SMART_HOST', `[smtp.myispmailserver.net]')dnl to put all outbound mail to your ISP. matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC PICA GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] - w http://www.oclcpica.org/ http://guru.UnixLand.de/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GUI mail client recommendations ...
If that just fixes From in the header Im not sure that is entirely my problem. Since my bounces seem to be related to my localhost domain name, I wonder about a setting like described here from sendmail's manual. You can have your host masquerade as another using MASQUERADE_AS(`host.domain') This causes mail being sent to be labeled as coming from the indicated host.domain, rather than $j. One normally masquerades as one of one's own subdomains (for example, it's unlikely that Berkeley would choose to masquerade as an MIT site). This behaviour is modified by a plethora of FEATUREs http://www.sendmail.org/m4/features.html; in particular, see masquerade_envelopehttp://www.sendmail.org/m4/features.html#masquerade_envelope, allmasquerade http://www.sendmail.org/m4/features.html#allmasquerade, limited_masqueradehttp://www.sendmail.org/m4/features.html#limited_masquerade, and masquerade_entire_domainhttp://www.sendmail.org/m4/features.html#masquerade_entire_domain . On 5/8/06, albi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 8 May 2006 07:14:05 -0600 Bryan Curl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mutt sends mail as usual. Then, fetchmail -S smtp.myispmailserver.net The mail bounces from myispmailserver.net with an error like [EMAIL PROTECTED] (my private domain) is urecognized domain. (exact message escapes me at this time) The question is how do I tell mutt to send all mail out through ' smtp.myispmailserver.net'? Or maybe I need to configure sendmail or fetchmail differntly? sometimes i use mutt, this is the part in my .muttrc to get the from-address right : set sendmail=/usr/sbin/sendmail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -oi -oem -- grtjs, albi gpg-key: lynx -dump http://scii.nl/~albi/gpg.asc | gpg --import -- -- Bryan bc3910 'at' gmail 'dot' com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GUI mail client recommendations ...
On Mon, 8 May 2006 10:10:24 -0600 Bryan Curl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If that just fixes From in the header Im not sure that is entirely my problem. Since my bounces seem to be related to my localhost domain name, I wonder about a setting like described here from sendmail's manual. You can have your host masquerade as another using MASQUERADE_AS(`host.domain') This causes mail being sent to be labeled as coming from the indicated host.domain, rather than $j. hmm, ok, sorry, i always make sure my postfix-settings are correct, and i just remembered the problem of having the From-address correct in mutt some years ago glad to see you apparently have it all sorted out now :) -- grtjs, albi gpg-key: lynx -dump http://scii.nl/~albi/gpg.asc | gpg --import ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GUI mail client recommendations ...
guru wrote: El día Monday, May 08, 2006 a las 03:23:30PM +0200, albi escribió: On Mon, 8 May 2006 07:14:05 -0600 Bryan Curl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mutt sends mail as usual. Then, fetchmail -S smtp.myispmailserver.net The mail bounces from myispmailserver.net with an error like [EMAIL PROTECTED] (my private domain) is urecognized domain. (exact message escapes me at this time) The question is how do I tell mutt to send all mail out through ' smtp.myispmailserver.net'? Or maybe I need to configure sendmail or fetchmail differntly? sometimes i use mutt, this is the part in my .muttrc to get the from-address right : set sendmail=/usr/sbin/sendmail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -oi -oem Of course, you have to configure 'fetchmail' (normaly done in a file ~/.fetchmailrc) for fetching and sendmail for outgoing mail; in the M4-based rules files to generate the sendmail's submit.cf you may use something like define(`SMART_HOST', `[smtp.myispmailserver.net]')dnl to put all outbound mail to your ISP. matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC PICA GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] - w http://www.oclcpica.org/ http://guru.UnixLand.de/ OK, but suppose the SMTP server was GMail; i.e. smtp.gmail.com which uses SSL on port 465 I believe. Is it possible to configure Sendmail to use that in the `SMART_HOST' setting? -- Gerard Seibert [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GUI mail client recommendations ...
On 08/05/06 albi said: sometimes i use mutt, this is the part in my .muttrc to get the from-address right : set sendmail=/usr/sbin/sendmail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -oi -oem That's not really required. set use_from set from=Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] set envelope_from Mike -- Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction. --Albert Einstein pgpld60vByiPv.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: GUI mail client recommendations ...
On Sat, 6 May 2006 20:40:02 -0300 (ADT) Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: multiple identities IMAP PGP Hi Marc, give sylpheed-claws ( mail/sylpheed-claws port) a try - it is very fast and lean. I used to use thunderbird but I felt it was very heavy compared to sylpheed. I'm using 6 IMAP identities, 2 POP3 (for mailing lists), as weell as 2 SMTP only (to send via same server as different user). Try the -claws port , as it supports more features and plugins. Good luck, Beto ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GUI mail client recommendations ...
On Sunday 07 May 2006 03:29, Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Sun, 7 May 2006, Ian Moore wrote: On Sunday 07 May 2006 09:10, Marc G. Fournier wrote: I've been using pine *forever* now and am finding it really hard to find a good GUI to replace it :( Tried kmail, didn't like it ... Off the top of my head, the only thing(s) it needs to do is: multiple identities IMAP PGP As much as I hate admitting doing things under Windows, I have used Eudora in the past and like its interface, but, alas, there is no Eudora for Unix I use kmail (part of kde) which is also very nice and will do all the above. I tried it, and was turned off very question ... my first beef ... I couldn't seem to select multiple messags in the thread window to do a mass operation on it ... for instance, in eudora, I could do 'shift-up/dn' to highlight several articles ... under kmail, the up/dn arrow scrolls the bottom message window ;( As you've noticed the up and down keys are already used for scrolling in the content widget. Instead use shift or ctrl and the left mouse button instead or the + and - keys (go to latter/next unread message) or the arrow-left and arrow-right keys (go to latter/next message). See Keyboard Shortcuts in the KMail handbook which is the obvious place to look ;-) Finally, most core KDE apps have a settings - shortcuts menu entry so you can even change the defaults. Some people call this bloat. Dan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Norberto Meijome wrote: On Sat, 6 May 2006 20:40:02 -0300 (ADT) Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: multiple identities IMAP PGP Hi Marc, give sylpheed-claws ( mail/sylpheed-claws port) a try - it is very fast and lean. I used to use thunderbird but I felt it was very heavy compared to sylpheed. I'm using 6 IMAP identities, 2 POP3 (for mailing lists), as weell as 2 SMTP only (to send via same server as different user). Try the -claws port , as it supports more features and plugins. Good luck, Beto Once installed, whats the script called to start claws? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GUI mail client recommendations ...
Danny Pansters wrote: On Sunday 07 May 2006 03:29, Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Sun, 7 May 2006, Ian Moore wrote: On Sunday 07 May 2006 09:10, Marc G. Fournier wrote: I've been using pine *forever* now and am finding it really hard to find a good GUI to replace it :( Tried kmail, didn't like it ... Off the top of my head, the only thing(s) it needs to do is: multiple identities IMAP PGP As much as I hate admitting doing things under Windows, I have used Eudora in the past and like its interface, but, alas, there is no Eudora for Unix I use kmail (part of kde) which is also very nice and will do all the above. I tried it, and was turned off very question ... my first beef ... I couldn't seem to select multiple messags in the thread window to do a mass operation on it ... for instance, in eudora, I could do 'shift-up/dn' to highlight several articles ... under kmail, the up/dn arrow scrolls the bottom message window ;( As you've noticed the up and down keys are already used for scrolling in the content widget. Instead use shift or ctrl and the left mouse button instead or the + and - keys (go to latter/next unread message) or the arrow-left and arrow-right keys (go to latter/next message). See Keyboard Shortcuts in the KMail handbook which is the obvious place to look ;-) Finally, most core KDE apps have a settings - shortcuts menu entry so you can even change the defaults. Some people call this bloat. Dan If you need help with KMail and how to properly use and configure it, might I suggest the following list: KDE PIM users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kdepim-users -- Gerard Seibert [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GUI mail client recommendations ...
eoghan wrote: Once installed, whats the script called to start claws? /usr/local/bin/sylpheed-claws (Make sure you typed rehash in your shell just after installing) Hint: See pkg-plist in the directory of the port to find out what files will be installed, and where. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Frank Steinborn wrote: eoghan wrote: Once installed, whats the script called to start claws? /usr/local/bin/sylpheed-claws (Make sure you typed rehash in your shell just after installing) Hint: See pkg-plist in the directory of the port to find out what files will be installed, and where. Thanks I actually got it from /usr/X11R6/bin/sylpheed-claws doesnt seem to be in /usr/local/bin/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sun, 07 May 2006 14:54:14 +0100 eoghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I actually got it from /usr/X11R6/bin/sylpheed-claws yup . I set my launcher for sylpheed to actually do nice sylpheed-claws, as it sometimes spin-locks - this way it doesn't hog more than needed. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GUI mail client recommendations ...
I've been using pine *forever* now and am finding it really hard to find a good GUI to replace it :( Tried kmail, didn't like it ... Off the top of my head, the only thing(s) it needs to do is: multiple identities IMAP PGP As much as I hate admitting doing things under Windows, I have used Eudora in the past and like its interface, but, alas, there is no Eudora for Unix :( Thx Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GUI mail client recommendations ...
On Sat, 6 May 2006 20:40:02 -0300 (ADT) Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been using pine *forever* now and am finding it really hard to find a good GUI to replace it :( Tried kmail, didn't like it ... Off the top of my head, the only thing(s) it needs to do is: multiple identities IMAP PGP As much as I hate admitting doing things under Windows, I have used Eudora in the past and like its interface, but, alas, there is no Eudora for Unix :( mozilla-thunderbird, the gpg-part in thunderbird is nice imho, multiple indentities are no problem except if you want to use different smtp-servers for different identities, then you need to download an extension to make that work properly (i've tried eudora in Wine some years ago (not for myself), it would start, but there were some problems, perhaps it works fine in Wine now) -- grtjs, albi gpg-key: lynx -dump http://scii.nl/~albi/gpg.asc | gpg --import ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GUI mail client recommendations ...
forgot to mention, i'm also using sylpheed, but that because i still need to move the mail-filtering to thunderbird and that reminds me of one annoyance in thunderbird, if you use pop3(s) .. and you have really large mailboxes, then you manually have to compress them after deleting emails in those mailboxes afaik sylpheed (and sylpheed-claws) don't have that problem -- grtjs, albi gpg-key: lynx -dump http://scii.nl/~albi/gpg.asc | gpg --import ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GUI mail client recommendations ...
On Sunday 07 May 2006 09:10, Marc G. Fournier wrote: I've been using pine *forever* now and am finding it really hard to find a good GUI to replace it :( Tried kmail, didn't like it ... Off the top of my head, the only thing(s) it needs to do is: multiple identities IMAP PGP As much as I hate admitting doing things under Windows, I have used Eudora in the past and like its interface, but, alas, there is no Eudora for Unix I use kmail (part of kde) which is also very nice and will do all the above. Cheers, -- Ian gpg key: http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~imoore/no-spam.asc pgp1i909akkzc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: GUI mail client recommendations ...
--- Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been using pine *forever* now and am finding it really hard to find a good GUI to replace it :( Tried kmail, didn't like it ... Off the top of my head, the only thing(s) it needs to do is: multiple identities IMAP PGP As much as I hate admitting doing things under Windows, I have used Eudora in the past and like its interface, but, alas, there is no Eudora for Unix I'm testing out sylpheed-claws[1]. It seems a little brittle at times (preferences being lost, odd crashes) but I'm going to hang with it for awhile. It loads quickly and is good for usenet too. Lots of configuration possible (it even has options not visible via the GUI). [1] http://claws.sylpheed.org/features.php __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GUI mail client recommendations ...
On Sun, 7 May 2006, Ian Moore wrote: On Sunday 07 May 2006 09:10, Marc G. Fournier wrote: I've been using pine *forever* now and am finding it really hard to find a good GUI to replace it :( Tried kmail, didn't like it ... Off the top of my head, the only thing(s) it needs to do is: multiple identities IMAP PGP As much as I hate admitting doing things under Windows, I have used Eudora in the past and like its interface, but, alas, there is no Eudora for Unix I use kmail (part of kde) which is also very nice and will do all the above. I tried it, and was turned off very question ... my first beef ... I couldn't seem to select multiple messags in the thread window to do a mass operation on it ... for instance, in eudora, I could do 'shift-up/dn' to highlight several articles ... under kmail, the up/dn arrow scrolls the bottom message window ;( Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GUI mail client recommendations ...
El día Saturday, May 06, 2006 a las 08:40:02PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier escribió: I've been using pine *forever* now and am finding it really hard to find a good GUI to replace it :( Tried kmail, didn't like it ... Off the top of my head, the only thing(s) it needs to do is: multiple identities IMAP PGP xterm+fetchmail+mutt+vi is all you need; anything else is just not usefull for real work; matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC PICA GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] - w http://www.oclcpica.org/ http://guru.UnixLand.de/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
