Re: HP or Compaq servers.
On Wed, Jul 23, 2003 at 10:21:03PM +0200, Olaf Hoyer wrote: > > Hi there! > > I have done the page. Here is the link: > > http://prioris.mini.pw.edu.pl/~gregory/FreeBSD/ > > > > Anyone who wants to share his/her experience is more than welcome the > > send me the hardware spec and few words on experience. > > > > I have few HP servers, three Sun workstations. > > I guess we need Dell, IBM, and ?. :) > > > > Fujitsu-Siemens is sometimes quite popular, and the servers are quite > reasonable. > > (Typing this mail from an old Primergy 351, 200MHz) Good point! I may have an access to Fujitsu-Siemens' servers in a very near future. ;) Cheers, gregory -- Grzegorz Czaplinski "The Power to Serve, Right for the Power Users!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ Fingerprint: EB77 E19D CFA2 5736 810F 847C A70F A275 2489 469F ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: HP or Compaq servers.
On Wed, 23 Jul 2003, Grzegorz Czaplinski wrote: > On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 08:57:17PM +0200, Grzegorz Czaplinski wrote: > > > >That would be good to have a webpage with server configurations that run > > > >under FreeBSD. Don't you think so? > > > > > > Keeping the list of supported individual components up-to-date is a > > > significant challenge. > > > > > > Trying to keep a list of complete system configurations available is > > > exponentially more difficult, but you're welcome to try. You first might > > > want to compute the number of permutations from choosing, say, 6 components > > > per system out of 1000 components. > > > > > > > I hope everyone will help to keep this list up to date. I hope you too. > > Components are listed in "supported hardware" but I will ask people to > > send me the updates. I will do it as soon as I get my new servers done. > > > > > Hi there! > I have done the page. Here is the link: > http://prioris.mini.pw.edu.pl/~gregory/FreeBSD/ > > Anyone who wants to share his/her experience is more than welcome the > send me the hardware spec and few words on experience. > > I have few HP servers, three Sun workstations. > I guess we need Dell, IBM, and ?. :) > Fujitsu-Siemens is sometimes quite popular, and the servers are quite reasonable. (Typing this mail from an old Primergy 351, 200MHz) Olaf -- Olaf Hoyer[EMAIL PROTECTED] Fuerchterliche Erlebniss geben zu raten, ob der, welcher sie erlebt, nicht etwas Fuerchterliches ist. (Nietzsche, Jenseits von Gut und Boese) ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: HP or Compaq servers.
On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 08:57:17PM +0200, Grzegorz Czaplinski wrote: > > >That would be good to have a webpage with server configurations that run > > >under FreeBSD. Don't you think so? > > > > Keeping the list of supported individual components up-to-date is a > > significant challenge. > > > > Trying to keep a list of complete system configurations available is > > exponentially more difficult, but you're welcome to try. You first might > > want to compute the number of permutations from choosing, say, 6 components > > per system out of 1000 components. > > > > I hope everyone will help to keep this list up to date. I hope you too. > Components are listed in "supported hardware" but I will ask people to > send me the updates. I will do it as soon as I get my new servers done. > Hi there! I have done the page. Here is the link: http://prioris.mini.pw.edu.pl/~gregory/FreeBSD/ Anyone who wants to share his/her experience is more than welcome the send me the hardware spec and few words on experience. I have few HP servers, three Sun workstations. I guess we need Dell, IBM, and ?. :) Cheers, gregory -- Grzegorz Czaplinski "The Power to Serve, Right for the Power Users!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ Fingerprint: EB77 E19D CFA2 5736 810F 847C A70F A275 2489 469F pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: HP or Compaq servers.
On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 04:51:01PM -0400, Kevin Berrien wrote: > The real key is, getting BSD popular/requested enough that it's > tested/supported officially by HP et. al! > That is not so easy... I spoke to one of the HP engineers today and he said would too difficult for them to coordinate with open source projects. Somehow they can coordinate with Linux though. The question is, did Linux developers force them to support their system, or did they start it by themselves? gregory -- Grzegorz Czaplinski "The Power to Serve, Right for the Power Users!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ Fingerprint: EB77 E19D CFA2 5736 810F 847C A70F A275 2489 469F ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: HP or Compaq servers.
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, Kevin Berrien wrote: > The real key is, getting BSD popular/requested enough that it's > tested/supported officially by HP et. al! > > >>>That would be good to have a webpage with server configurations that run > >>>under FreeBSD. Don't you think so? > >>> > >>> Hi! Well, I was at Linuxtag in Germany the last few days, and also spoke to HP and Seagate Staff. HP :well, only sales guys there told me, as I asked for further info on RAID management tools that are currently developed for Linux, that perhaps the Linux driver guy has some more information whom to contact with HP... Seagate: The channel sales guy told some interesting stories about how you have to deal with the distributor to get your drives sold, and how development and testing works. He liked the idea to give some decent harddrives away to developers for testing for standard compiance etc, because he said, that this is way cheaper than some advertisements, but Seagate USA has the thumb on it, and testing is only done officially with some choosen labs etc. And as long as the people wearing big ties don't think different, it won't change... The other point: I think its well worth the idea, that we simply extend the hardware notes page on the installation infos page with a list of known working systems from certain vendors. example: Vendor and type, Single/Dual CPU FreeBSD Version short Hardware list, notes so: Compaq DL360, 1CPU, FreeBSD 4.7R 933MHz, first Generation (white box), Intel 82559NIC (dual), SmartRAID SCSI Adapter (dev/ida) or: Compaq DL360 G2, 1CPU, FreeBSD 4.7R 1,4GHz PIII, grey box, Broadcom NIC (bge), SmartRAID (dev/ciss) there shall be only systems from vendors that build systems like above, with defined hardware. (Yes I know, that Compaq especially on cheaper systems put anything in, what could be obtained for cheap price...) Olaf -- Olaf Hoyer[EMAIL PROTECTED] Fuerchterliche Erlebniss geben zu raten, ob der, welcher sie erlebt, nicht etwas Fuerchterliches ist. (Nietzsche, Jenseits von Gut und Boese) ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: HP or Compaq servers.
The real key is, getting BSD popular/requested enough that it's tested/supported officially by HP et. al! That would be good to have a webpage with server configurations that run under FreeBSD. Don't you think so? Keeping the list of supported individual components up-to-date is a significant challenge. Trying to keep a list of complete system configurations available is exponentially more difficult, but you're welcome to try. You first might want to compute the number of permutations from choosing, say, 6 components per system out of 1000 components. I hope everyone will help to keep this list up to date. I hope you too. Components are listed in "supported hardware" but I will ask people to send me the updates. I will do it as soon as I get my new servers done. gregory ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: HP or Compaq servers.
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 15:14:40 -0400 To: Chuck Swiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: Bob Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: HP or Compaq servers. At 02:30 PM 7/15/2003, you wrote: Grzegorz Czaplinski wrote: [ ... ] That would be good to have a webpage with server configurations that run under FreeBSD. Don't you think so? Keeping the list of supported individual components up-to-date is a significant challenge. Trying to keep a list of complete system configurations available is exponentially more difficult, but you're welcome to try. You first might want to compute the number of permutations from choosing, say, 6 components per system out of 1000 components. -- -Chuck Sure it would be. But it might be interesting to let users input what hardware they are currently using and any notes about weirdness, etc. Perhaps a volunteer project to list these things is in order. -- Bob ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: HP or Compaq servers.
On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 02:30:23PM -0400, Chuck Swiger wrote: > Grzegorz Czaplinski wrote: > [ ... ] > >That would be good to have a webpage with server configurations that run > >under FreeBSD. Don't you think so? > > Keeping the list of supported individual components up-to-date is a > significant challenge. > > Trying to keep a list of complete system configurations available is > exponentially more difficult, but you're welcome to try. You first might > want to compute the number of permutations from choosing, say, 6 components > per system out of 1000 components. > I hope everyone will help to keep this list up to date. I hope you too. Components are listed in "supported hardware" but I will ask people to send me the updates. I will do it as soon as I get my new servers done. gregory -- Grzegorz Czaplinski "The Power to Serve, Right for the Power Users!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ Fingerprint: EB77 E19D CFA2 5736 810F 847C A70F A275 2489 469F pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: HP or Compaq servers.
Grzegorz Czaplinski wrote: [ ... ] That would be good to have a webpage with server configurations that run under FreeBSD. Don't you think so? Keeping the list of supported individual components up-to-date is a significant challenge. Trying to keep a list of complete system configurations available is exponentially more difficult, but you're welcome to try. You first might want to compute the number of permutations from choosing, say, 6 components per system out of 1000 components. -- -Chuck ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: HP or Compaq servers.
On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 02:29:32PM -0400, Will Saxon wrote: > > Hi Will, > > Thanks for the grat feedback! Your informations are great! > > Anyway DL360G3 is too much for us. I was thinking about ML line, like > > ML330G3 or ML350G3. No one in Polish Compaq support is willing to help > > me with this as they simply don't have such knowledge. > > > > Do you have any of ML line? Does any one here have? I need this info! > > > > Gregory, > > We bought an ML370G2 about a year and a half ago. I was able to install FreeBSD on > it and compile/boot an SMP kernel. That was about the extent of my playtime with the > machine, which was quickly whisked off to slave away as an MS SQL 2000 server. > > I know the onboard NICs work fine using the fxp driver, the onboard video works OK > and the onboard RAID controller is also supported via the ciss driver. The fans dont > get all loud either. > Will, Thank you very much! From some sources I know that all ML and DL lines work fine with FreeBSD. The one who told me about that is using HP an Compaq servers and had only problem to install Solaris x86 on it. I was lucky today and found one lady in HP support, who is going to arrange some test lab for me to test FreeBSD on those servers. I will try to check as much as I can and will put the results on the web. That would be good to have a webpage with server configurations that run under FreeBSD. Don't you think so? Cheers, gregory -- Grzegorz Czaplinski "The Power to Serve, Right for the Power Users!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ Fingerprint: EB77 E19D CFA2 5736 810F 847C A70F A275 2489 469F pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: HP or Compaq servers.
On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 08:54:15PM -0700, James Long wrote: > > Hi Will, > > Thanks for the grat feedback! Your informations are great! > > Anyway DL360G3 is too much for us. I was thinking about ML line, like > > ML330G3 or ML350G3. No one in Polish Compaq support is willing to help > > me with this as they simply don't have such knowledge. > > > > Do you have any of ML line? Does any one here have? I need this info! > > I have deployed one ML310 running 4.8-STABLE. The on-board LSI Logic > MegaRAID ATA disk controller is not supported by 4.x, last I checked. > I had to obtain and install a third-party driver from Eric Moore of LSI > Logic. That driver seems to work fine. > > I do not know whether the ATA RAID on the ML310 will be supported > in the 5.x branch. > James, Thanks very much for the grat info! Cheers, gregory -- Grzegorz Czaplinski "The Power to Serve, Right for the Power Users!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ Fingerprint: EB77 E19D CFA2 5736 810F 847C A70F A275 2489 469F pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: HP or Compaq servers.
On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 08:22:46PM +0200, Grzegorz Czaplinski wrote: > > Hi Will, > Thanks for the grat feedback! Your informations are great! > Anyway DL360G3 is too much for us. I was thinking about ML line, like > ML330G3 or ML350G3. No one in Polish Compaq support is willing to help > me with this as they simply don't have such knowledge. > > Do you have any of ML line? Does any one here have? I need this info! I have deployed one ML310 running 4.8-STABLE. The on-board LSI Logic MegaRAID ATA disk controller is not supported by 4.x, last I checked. I had to obtain and install a third-party driver from Eric Moore of LSI Logic. That driver seems to work fine. I do not know whether the ATA RAID on the ML310 will be supported in the 5.x branch. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: HP or Compaq servers.
> -Original Message- > From: Grzegorz Czaplinski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 2:23 PM > To: Will Saxon > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: HP or Compaq servers. > > Hi Will, > Thanks for the grat feedback! Your informations are great! > Anyway DL360G3 is too much for us. I was thinking about ML line, like > ML330G3 or ML350G3. No one in Polish Compaq support is willing to help > me with this as they simply don't have such knowledge. > > Do you have any of ML line? Does any one here have? I need this info! > Gregory, We bought an ML370G2 about a year and a half ago. I was able to install FreeBSD on it and compile/boot an SMP kernel. That was about the extent of my playtime with the machine, which was quickly whisked off to slave away as an MS SQL 2000 server. I know the onboard NICs work fine using the fxp driver, the onboard video works OK and the onboard RAID controller is also supported via the ciss driver. The fans dont get all loud either. -Will ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: HP or Compaq servers.
On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 09:59:13AM -0400, Will Saxon wrote: > Gregory, > > We have a lot of their machines, and have been happy with them. While we are still > primarily a Microsoft shop, we do have one DL360G3 running 5.1-RELEASE without > difficulty. We also have another just like that one running Slackware something. > > We are using 2 36GB drives in a 'raid-0' stripeset off the built in Smart Array 5i+ > controller. The machine has dual Xeon 3.06GHz processors and 2GB of ram. We have not > had any problems with the integrated Broadcom ethernet controllers (bge driver). > Everything is detected and works great. > > I only have 2 complaints: > > One is that the keyboard port doesnt seem to work with our KVM solution (a raritan > paragon). The dongle we tried gets power from the keyboard port and that works since > we can get video. However, we did not get any feedback from the keyboard. Plugging a > keyboard directly into the machine works fine and using the dongle on another > machine with the same keyboard works. We have seen this on both of the DL360G3's we > have. > > The other issue is that there is no health monitoring driver for FreeBSD yet. My > understanding is that one is in development and near completion. This would be a > good thing - making world typically kicks the fans into high speed, and the only way > to quiet them back down is to reboot the machine. I added CPU_SUSP_HLT to the kernel > on that machine and it seems to get noisy less often. When the fans go into high > speed mode they are pretty loud. > > Other than those two things, they are good machines that seem to work just fine with > FreeBSD. Hi Will, Thanks for the grat feedback! Your informations are great! Anyway DL360G3 is too much for us. I was thinking about ML line, like ML330G3 or ML350G3. No one in Polish Compaq support is willing to help me with this as they simply don't have such knowledge. Do you have any of ML line? Does any one here have? I need this info! Thank you again! Cheers, gregory -- Grzegorz Czaplinski "The Power to Serve, Right for the Power Users!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ Fingerprint: EB77 E19D CFA2 5736 810F 847C A70F A275 2489 469F pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: HP or Compaq servers.
Gregory, We have a lot of their machines, and have been happy with them. While we are still primarily a Microsoft shop, we do have one DL360G3 running 5.1-RELEASE without difficulty. We also have another just like that one running Slackware something. We are using 2 36GB drives in a 'raid-0' stripeset off the built in Smart Array 5i+ controller. The machine has dual Xeon 3.06GHz processors and 2GB of ram. We have not had any problems with the integrated Broadcom ethernet controllers (bge driver). Everything is detected and works great. I only have 2 complaints: One is that the keyboard port doesnt seem to work with our KVM solution (a raritan paragon). The dongle we tried gets power from the keyboard port and that works since we can get video. However, we did not get any feedback from the keyboard. Plugging a keyboard directly into the machine works fine and using the dongle on another machine with the same keyboard works. We have seen this on both of the DL360G3's we have. The other issue is that there is no health monitoring driver for FreeBSD yet. My understanding is that one is in development and near completion. This would be a good thing - making world typically kicks the fans into high speed, and the only way to quiet them back down is to reboot the machine. I added CPU_SUSP_HLT to the kernel on that machine and it seems to get noisy less often. When the fans go into high speed mode they are pretty loud. Other than those two things, they are good machines that seem to work just fine with FreeBSD. -Will > -Original Message- > From: Grzegorz Czaplinski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 9:37 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: HP or Compaq servers. > > > Hi there! > Does anyone can recommend an HP or Compaq server from the most recent > line? Any experience with those systems? Problems? > > I need to get two servers and HP, Comapq seems to be the only > option on > the market for me. > > Do we have any webpage with hardware configuration for FreeBSD? > > Your help will be great! > > Cheers, > gregory > -- > Grzegorz Czaplinski > "The Power to Serve, Right for the Power Users!" - > http://www.FreeBSD.org/ > Fingerprint: EB77 E19D CFA2 5736 810F 847C A70F A275 2489 469F > ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
