Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...
Bill Moran wrote: In response to Pat Maddox [EMAIL PROTECTED]: For those of us who can't read minds, what's the port to install, and the website where we can view the stats? :) As a side track on this, it'd be nice if the port installation message said something like got to http://bsdstats.hub.org to see current stats I think it would help uptake if when the bsdstats job is first run, it issues you with a 'registered system number' -- then all of the folks with low numbered systems get bragging rights... Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...
Daniel Gerzo wrote: Hello Chris, Monday, August 7, 2006, 11:17:41 PM, you wrote: Bill Moran wrote: In response to Pat Maddox [EMAIL PROTECTED]: For those of us who can't read minds, what's the port to install, and the website where we can view the stats? :) As a side track on this, it'd be nice if the port installation message said something like got to http://bsdstats.hub.org to see current stats I agree - another note: After the install, better documentation might be add. Meaning, it needs to be defined that the 2 lines Should reflect the proper location: /etc/rc.conf - assuming the knobs are needed here. sorry, but you are wrong here; the correct location is /etc/periodic.conf as documented. I stand corrected. -- Best regards, Chris Real programmers don't eat muffins. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...
On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 05:22:04PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Mon, 7 Aug 2006, Chris wrote: Just my .02 worth - that Sparc64 listing Is mine Wheee! There are two Sparc64 listings ... both yours? No - the other one is mine! Nice work, scrappy - every time I check back, there's more information on the site. Any word on the other groups joining in? -- Daniel Bye PGP Key: http://www.slightlystrange.org/pgpkey-dan.asc PGP Key fingerprint: D349 B109 0EB8 2554 4D75 B79A 8B17 F97C 1622 166A _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ pgpHLpa2rlVbn.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...
On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 00:42:27 -0300 (ADT) Marc G. Fournier wrote:
I've now committed v2.0 of the 300.statistics periodic script ... this
one adds the device reporting that we'd talked about previously, and
the summary reports now reflect the driver(s) in use for those
deciding to report ...
Great, thanks Marc.
I just propose a tiny patch (the problem was discussed somewhere
today, may be at ports@):
-
--- Makefile.orig Tue Aug 8 01:40:57 2006
+++ MakefileTue Aug 8 01:41:16 2006
@@ -22,6 +22,6 @@
${MKDIR} ${LOCALBASE}/etc/periodic/monthly
${CP} ${FILESDIR}/300.statistics ${LOCALBASE}/etc/periodic/monthly
post-install:
- ${CAT} pkg-message
+ ${CAT} ${PKGMESSAGE}
.include bsd.port.post.mk
-
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Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...
Boris Samorodov wrote:
On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 00:42:27 -0300 (ADT) Marc G. Fournier wrote:
I've now committed v2.0 of the 300.statistics periodic script ... this
one adds the device reporting that we'd talked about previously, and
the summary reports now reflect the driver(s) in use for those
deciding to report ...
Great, thanks Marc.
I just propose a tiny patch (the problem was discussed somewhere
today, may be at ports@):
-
--- Makefile.orig Tue Aug 8 01:40:57 2006
+++ MakefileTue Aug 8 01:41:16 2006
@@ -22,6 +22,6 @@
${MKDIR} ${LOCALBASE}/etc/periodic/monthly
${CP} ${FILESDIR}/300.statistics ${LOCALBASE}/etc/periodic/monthly
post-install:
- ${CAT} pkg-message
+ ${CAT} ${PKGMESSAGE}
Shouldn't that be @${CAT} ${PKGMESSAGE}?
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Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...
Daniel Bye wrote: On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 05:22:04PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Mon, 7 Aug 2006, Chris wrote: Just my .02 worth - that Sparc64 listing Is mine Wheee! There are two Sparc64 listings ... both yours? No - the other one is mine! Nice work, scrappy - every time I check back, there's more information on the site. Any word on the other groups joining in? I do have a question tho - What happens when one of wishes to upgrade. Say for example on my Sparc - I want to go from RELEASE to STABLE. At that point - is the port smart enough to remove old listings and put forth the newer? If not - having these status can and will be deceiving in a short time. -- Best regards, Chris You can pray hard enough to make water run uphill how hard? Hard enough to make water run uphill. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...
On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 16:56:42 -0500 Paul Schmehl wrote:
Boris Samorodov wrote:
On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 00:42:27 -0300 (ADT) Marc G. Fournier wrote:
I've now committed v2.0 of the 300.statistics periodic script ... this
one adds the device reporting that we'd talked about previously, and
the summary reports now reflect the driver(s) in use for those
deciding to report ...
Great, thanks Marc.
I just propose a tiny patch (the problem was discussed somewhere
today, may be at ports@):
-
--- Makefile.orig Tue Aug 8 01:40:57 2006
+++ MakefileTue Aug 8 01:41:16 2006
@@ -22,6 +22,6 @@
${MKDIR} ${LOCALBASE}/etc/periodic/monthly
${CP} ${FILESDIR}/300.statistics ${LOCALBASE}/etc/periodic/monthly
post-install:
- ${CAT} pkg-message
+ ${CAT} ${PKGMESSAGE}
Shouldn't that be @${CAT} ${PKGMESSAGE}?
Well, I assume that it's more a style change. An @ may be prepended
at all those ${XX} commands. But it's up to author. While the change I
propose will work on some non-default settings. And may be the author
wants to show an administrator what is installing to the system.
WBR
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Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...
On 8/08/2006 7:17 AM, Chris wrote: After the install, better documentation might be add. Meaning, it needs to be defined that the 2 lines To enable the port, edit or create /etc/periodic.conf and add this line: monthly_statistics_enable=yes To enable device reporting, add this line: monthly_statistics_report_devices=yes Why not tackle this in a similar manner to the Postfix port - after installing (provided we're not in a non-interactive build), we prompt: Do you wish to activate stats reporting in /etc/periodic.conf [n]? y Do you wish to report your installed hardware? Would you like to submit your systems stats now? or something along those lines. This would make it much easier than people installing the port and neglecting to set the appropriate lines, effectively achieving nil ;-) -Antony ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...
On Aug 6, 2006, at 11:42 PM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: I've now committed v2.0 of the 300.statistics periodic script ... this one adds the device reporting that we'd talked about previously, and the summary reports now reflect the driver(s) in use for those deciding to report ... This Phase of the script is optional, and not enabled by default ... I can't think of any reason why you wouldn't want to report it, but just in case someone feels it poses a problem, its an opt-in report ... pkg-message updated to reflect the extra line you need to add to / etc/periodic.conf: monthly_statistics_report_devices=yes I've written it to report driver + chip= information from pciconf - l, since even pciconf -lv doesn't seem to use card= ... the summary report will be extended next to show both vendor and chip statistics ... Let me know of any problems ... Just got it installed on two systems--exciting! Any thoughts on adding uptime tracking (ie, desirable or not)? Could be something very simple client side, like: --- /usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats/files/300.statistics Sun Aug 6 23:35:39 2006 +++ /usr/local/etc/periodic/monthly/300.statistics Mon Aug 7 19:43:47 2006 @@ -20,7 +20,8 @@ HN=`/bin/hostname` SYS=`/usr/bin/uname -r` ARCH=`/usr/bin/uname -m` - /usr/bin/fetch -qo /tmp/getid http://bsdstats.hub.org/scripts/ getid.php?hn=$HN\sys=$SYS\arch=$ARCH + UP=`/usr/bin/uptime | /usr/bin/grep -o up [^,]*,[^,]*,` + /usr/bin/fetch -qo /tmp/getid http://bsdstats.hub.org/scripts/ getid.php?hn=$HN\sys=$SYS\arch=$ARCH\up=$UP case $monthly_statistics_report_devices in [Yy][Ee][Ss]) IFS= Scott ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...
On Mon, 7 Aug 2006, Bill Moran wrote: In response to Pat Maddox [EMAIL PROTECTED]: For those of us who can't read minds, what's the port to install, and the website where we can view the stats? :) As a side track on this, it'd be nice if the port installation message said something like got to http://bsdstats.hub.org to see current stats Good point, and done ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...
On Mon, 7 Aug 2006, Matthew Seaman wrote: I think it would help uptake if when the bsdstats job is first run, it issues you with a 'registered system number' -- then all of the folks with low numbered systems get bragging rights... Actually, there is no registered system number, as there is no registration process ... that was the key requirement for doing this, was that it was as hands off as possible, and having to go to a web site to register each and every host was just too onerous of a task ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...
On Mon, 7 Aug 2006, Daniel Bye wrote: On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 05:22:04PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Mon, 7 Aug 2006, Chris wrote: Just my .02 worth - that Sparc64 listing Is mine Wheee! There are two Sparc64 listings ... both yours? No - the other one is mine! Nice work, scrappy - every time I check back, there's more information on the site. Any word on the other groups joining in? I've only heard from Matt @ DragonflyBSD ... if anyone knows other using the other BSDs, encourage them to join in ... we're going to put a proper how to run message up on the site shortly ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...
On Mon, 7 Aug 2006, Chris wrote: Daniel Bye wrote: On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 05:22:04PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Mon, 7 Aug 2006, Chris wrote: Just my .02 worth - that Sparc64 listing Is mine Wheee! There are two Sparc64 listings ... both yours? No - the other one is mine! Nice work, scrappy - every time I check back, there's more information on the site. Any word on the other groups joining in? I do have a question tho - What happens when one of wishes to upgrade. Say for example on my Sparc - I want to go from RELEASE to STABLE. At that point - is the port smart enough to remove old listings and put forth the newer? Its smart enough to know you've updated, and updates the record ... but, it will only update the record for the *current* month, not past months ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...
Done, thanks ...
On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Boris Samorodov wrote:
On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 00:42:27 -0300 (ADT) Marc G. Fournier wrote:
I've now committed v2.0 of the 300.statistics periodic script ... this
one adds the device reporting that we'd talked about previously, and
the summary reports now reflect the driver(s) in use for those
deciding to report ...
Great, thanks Marc.
I just propose a tiny patch (the problem was discussed somewhere
today, may be at ports@):
-
--- Makefile.orig Tue Aug 8 01:40:57 2006
+++ MakefileTue Aug 8 01:41:16 2006
@@ -22,6 +22,6 @@
${MKDIR} ${LOCALBASE}/etc/periodic/monthly
${CP} ${FILESDIR}/300.statistics ${LOCALBASE}/etc/periodic/monthly
post-install:
- ${CAT} pkg-message
+ ${CAT} ${PKGMESSAGE}
.include bsd.port.post.mk
-
WBR
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Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...
On Mon, 7 Aug 2006, Scott Sipe wrote: + UP=`/usr/bin/uptime | /usr/bin/grep -o up [^,]*,[^,]*,` Is there a way of getting this consistently in seconds? I've checked sysctl, and 6.x seems to have some of the information there, but 4.x definitely doesn't ... And, uptime would definitely be another 'opt-in' feature, not required ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...
Ok i love the Idea of this, and will have all my machines running that in no time. Just make the Site look more sleek :) I will be hopefully the first one representing China on that list as well (brag :-) On Aug 8, 2006, at 4:42 AM, Pat Maddox wrote: On 8/6/06, Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've now committed v2.0 of the 300.statistics periodic script ... this one adds the device reporting that we'd talked about previously, and the summary reports now reflect the driver(s) in use for those deciding to report ... This Phase of the script is optional, and not enabled by default ... I can't think of any reason why you wouldn't want to report it, but just in case someone feels it poses a problem, its an opt-in report ... pkg-message updated to reflect the extra line you need to add to /etc/periodic.conf: monthly_statistics_report_devices=yes I've written it to report driver + chip= information from pciconf -l, since even pciconf -lv doesn't seem to use card= ... the summary report will be extended next to show both vendor and chip statistics ... Let me know of any problems ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http:// www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions- [EMAIL PROTECTED] For those of us who can't read minds, what's the port to install, and the website where we can view the stats? :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions- [EMAIL PROTECTED] !DSPAM:1,44d7a5856296700320863! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...
To enable the port, edit or create /etc/periodic.conf and add this line: monthly_statistics_enable=yes Shouldn't it be /etc/periodic.conf.local since its not part of the base? Thats where I've put other things that install periodics that aren't part of the base. Tuc/TBOH ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...
On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 04:14:50PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: right now, we are at ~200 hosts checking in, from various time zones (see http://bsdstats.hub.org/bsd_statistics.php for countries that have checked in so far) ... so, even at month end, taking into consideration time zones, I don't expect a major hit ... now, if we get to 10's of thousands of hosts, which I'd *love*, then I may worry, but by then, I'll have a Dual-Core Dual CPU server in place that I can move the whole thing over onto ... This is good, but what is stopping someone with an axe to grind from writing a rogue script to report fictional results? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...
On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, andrew clarke wrote: On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 04:14:50PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: right now, we are at ~200 hosts checking in, from various time zones (see http://bsdstats.hub.org/bsd_statistics.php for countries that have checked in so far) ... so, even at month end, taking into consideration time zones, I don't expect a major hit ... now, if we get to 10's of thousands of hosts, which I'd *love*, then I may worry, but by then, I'll have a Dual-Core Dual CPU server in place that I can move the whole thing over onto ... This is good, but what is stopping someone with an axe to grind from writing a rogue script to report fictional results? Unfortunately, nothing ... and, also unfortunately, after extensive discussions on this list with others about possible ways to avoid it, there really isn't anything short of a 'required registration procedure' that can be done for that ... that said, someone from Germany tried that this morning, submitting 41 'hosts' that were quite obviously bogus (FreeBSD 8.x anyone?) and were easily removed from the system ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDstats Project v2.0 ...
On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET wrote: To enable the port, edit or create /etc/periodic.conf and add this line: monthly_statistics_enable=yes Shouldn't it be /etc/periodic.conf.local since its not part of the base? Thats where I've put other things that install periodics that aren't part of the base. I've always put it in /etc/periodic.conf, since the 'system one' is /etc/defaults/periodic.conf, or so I thought ... same as /etc/defaults/rc.conf vs /etc/rc.conf ... Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
