Re: qmail or postfix?

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Re: qmail or postfix?

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Re: qmail or postfix?

[John Levine]

>When you do decide on your MTA, I'd recommend buying a book which
>documents it.

Oh, definitely.  Particularly if you decide on qmail.

R's,
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Re: qmail or postfix?

[Pedro Timóteo]

On 02-02-2011 16:37, Frank Shute wrote:

What I'd also say is that Postfix is probably easier to install and
configure.


Agreed. Postfix is *really* easy and well documented; so much that I've 
seen people claim that it "can't be that good" since it's so easy to 
configure, with great defaults and human-readable config files, and 
"powerful means hard to configure".


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Re: qmail or postfix?

[Frank Shute]

On Tue, Feb 01, 2011 at 03:32:26PM +0100, Alessandro Baggi wrote:
>
> Hi list. Who is better, qmail or postfix?
> 
> thanks in advance

I've used both and both have their advocates/supporters.

I used qmail for about 10 yrs and picked it when basically the choice
was qmail, sendmail and smail.

It worked well and was install and configure and don't do anything
else for 10 years.

Then a few years ago I was building a new machine and decided to
re-assess the MTA; I chose Postfix and am very pleased with it.

I chose Postfix because more people run it and support was likely
easier to come across, not because of any perceived inadequacies of
qmail.

When you do decide on your MTA, I'd recommend buying a book which
documents it.

What I'd also say is that Postfix is probably easier to install and
configure. I installed qmail from source but used the port for
Postfix.


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Re: qmail or postfix?

[Mike.]

On 2/1/2011 at 8:44 PM Paul Macdonald wrote:

|On 01/02/2011 19:48, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
|>
|> No, seriously... I was using sendmail before discovering postfix,
and
|> pretty darn good at m4.  Or is that m4()dnl()? :)
|>
|> But I've never found postfix without a knob to do something I want
it to
|> do, and most of the knobs are set properly right out of the box.
(And
|> reasonably named too!)
|>
|so for us folks still using sendmail (which works fine for me)
|
|what benefits do we get with postfix that'd outweigh the hassles of 
|changing?
 =


If you are happy with sendmail, why change a working thing?


For me, the need to move to Postfix became very apparent once I wanted
to make some [what I thought to be] simple configuration changes
(different transports for different domains, virtual mailboxes, etc.).
 

I found sendmail's configuration to be daunting.  So I looked
elsewhere.  About ten years ago I started using Postix and I've not
looked back.




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Re: qmail or postfix?

[egoitz]

version i tried. that turns off certain maintainers, and it would 
put me

off
aswell

postfix on the other hand is more in tune with the rest of the 
system


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Nowadays I think Postfix is much more complete and efficient mail 
system than Qmail although this one it's a pretty small and good code by 
design mail system... but the problem is that you'll probably need more 
features than qmail-1.03 gave unless... so you will need to patch it, so 
you're entering non qmail native code...


By my professional experience... Postfix will give you more 
"oportunities and features" for things going well... Some years ago I 
set up qmail servers and I like qmail and I like playing with it's 
code... but should say that nowadays unless IMHO... Postfix is 
basically the nowadays opensource mail system.


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Re: qmail or postfix?

[C. P. Ghost]

On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Paul Macdonald  wrote:
> On 01/02/2011 19:48, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
>>
>> No, seriously... I was using sendmail before discovering postfix, and
>> pretty darn good at m4.  Or is that m4()dnl()? :)
>>
>> But I've never found postfix without a knob to do something I want it to
>> do, and most of the knobs are set properly right out of the box. (And
>> reasonably named too!)
>>
> so for us folks still using sendmail (which works fine for me)
>
> what benefits do we get with postfix that'd outweigh the hassles of
> changing?

sendmail's support of a UUCP backend maybe? But apparently, it's
possible to do that in postfix too[1] so I don't really know of any
compelling reason to stick to sendmail, except for being accustomed
to configuring and managing it, which is a purely subjective matter.

[1]: http://www.postfix.org/UUCP_README.html

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Re: qmail or postfix?

[Randal L. Schwartz]

> "Jarrod" == Jarrod Slick  writes:

Jarrod> If you know of any specific problems with postfix that would
Jarrod> substantiate your claim I encourage you to inform the project's
Jarrod> maintainers.

In fact, given the legacy of other security tools created by the author
of Postfix (Wietse Venema) (SATAN, TCP Wrappers, Coroner's Toolkit), I'd
say that postfix was *also* designed from the start as a secure MTA.  It
certainly looks that way.  I've met Wietse in person... he's an
upstanding guy.

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Re: qmail or postfix?

[Andres Perera]

On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 11:26 PM, Jarrod Slick  wrote:
> Calling qmail more secure is pretty much just echoing conjecture at this
> point.  Sure, it was designed to be secure (years and years ago) and the
> original author even held a contest with a monetary reward for anyone who
> could find a vulnerability -- that said, AFAIK that person no longer
> maintains the project.  It requires lots of third party patches to be as
> functional as postfix, so to what extent these patches counteract the
> original coder's (apparent) secure coding practices is open to debate.

that would be besides the point. having the ability to patch up freebsd doesn't
grant me the authority of claiming that my work is the official version, or
atleast doesn't guarantee that i'll have an audience for my claim

> If you know of any specific problems with postfix that would substantiate
> your claim I encourage you to inform the project's maintainers.  From
> personal experience I can say that I've run a postfix config for years
> without problems.  Also, in most networks I don't think the MTA is a very
> prominent attack vector; people are probably much more likely to get in
> through that old wordpress installation you've been meaning to upgrade for 6
> months (for instance).

you seem to be confused by what i posted

i don't have an explicit example (e.g., buffer overflow) to show that qmail is
more secure. it has to do with the design principles of each and how the system
is layed out. while it's true that postfix is partitioned, qmail goes a little
further than that by taking a big dump on libc

that's not to say that postfix is inherently insecure
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Re: qmail or postfix?

[Jarrod Slick]

Calling qmail more secure is pretty much just echoing conjecture at this
point.  Sure, it was designed to be secure (years and years ago) and the
original author even held a contest with a monetary reward for anyone who
could find a vulnerability -- that said, AFAIK that person no longer
maintains the project.  It requires lots of third party patches to be as
functional as postfix, so to what extent these patches counteract the
original coder's (apparent) secure coding practices is open to debate.

If you know of any specific problems with postfix that would substantiate
your claim I encourage you to inform the project's maintainers.  From
personal experience I can say that I've run a postfix config for years
without problems.  Also, in most networks I don't think the MTA is a very
prominent attack vector; people are probably much more likely to get in
through that old wordpress installation you've been meaning to upgrade for 6
months (for instance).

On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 7:11 PM, Andres Perera  wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Alessandro Baggi
>  wrote:
> > Hi list. Who is better, qmail or postfix?
>
> qmail is more secure... but the design is just as alien to unix as sendmail
> is
>
> for example, the fact that qmail uses custom libc, or at least did so on
> the
> version i tried. that turns off certain maintainers, and it would put me
> off
> aswell
>
> postfix on the other hand is more in tune with the rest of the system
>
> >
> > thanks in advance
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Re: qmail or postfix?

[Andres Perera]

On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Alessandro Baggi
 wrote:
> Hi list. Who is better, qmail or postfix?

qmail is more secure... but the design is just as alien to unix as sendmail is

for example, the fact that qmail uses custom libc, or at least did so on the
version i tried. that turns off certain maintainers, and it would put me off
aswell

postfix on the other hand is more in tune with the rest of the system

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Re: qmail or postfix?

[Chad Perrin]

On Tue, Feb 01, 2011 at 08:44:24PM +, Paul Macdonald wrote:
> On 01/02/2011 19:48, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
> >
> >No, seriously... I was using sendmail before discovering postfix, and
> >pretty darn good at m4.  Or is that m4()dnl()? :)
> >
> >But I've never found postfix without a knob to do something I want it to
> >do, and most of the knobs are set properly right out of the box. (And
> >reasonably named too!)
> >
> so for us folks still using sendmail (which works fine for me)
> 
> what benefits do we get with postfix that'd outweigh the hassles of 
> changing?

Probably nothing, if you're asking about changing a current MTA
deployment when you're satisfied with what you have.  If you are looking
for an alternative to replace what you have because of frustrations with
your current setup, or if you are considering new deployments and whether
it is worthwhile to learn something new, that is another story
altogether.

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Re: qmail or postfix?

[Jerry]

On Tue, 01 Feb 2011 20:44:24 +
Paul Macdonald  articulated:

> so for us folks still using sendmail (which works fine for me)
> what benefits do we get with postfix that'd outweigh the hassles of 
> changing?

Without knowing your exact configuration and requirements, answering
that question is at best a guess. In addition, as a long time
subscriber to the theory, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it", the only
way to ascertain that answer would be to study the Postfix documentation
and then decide if it offers better methods of doing whatever it is you
are now doing with your present MTA and if changing MTAs would serve a
useful purpose.

Postfix-2.8 has an impressive feature, "postscreen" built into it. You
can check the documentation for its use and implementation. I don't
believe that Sendmail has any such native function.

The Postfix forum could provide answers to any reasonable question that
you might have regarding the two MTAs. I have no knowledge of what
support is available for Sendmail.

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Re: qmail or postfix?

[Paul Macdonald]

On 01/02/2011 19:48, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:


No, seriously... I was using sendmail before discovering postfix, and
pretty darn good at m4.  Or is that m4()dnl()? :)

But I've never found postfix without a knob to do something I want it to
do, and most of the knobs are set properly right out of the box. (And
reasonably named too!)


so for us folks still using sendmail (which works fine for me)

what benefits do we get with postfix that'd outweigh the hassles of 
changing?


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Re: qmail or postfix?

[Randal L. Schwartz]

> "Outback" == Outback Dingo  writes:

>> |"Postfix" is actively maintained and is constantly being upgraded by
>> |its author. Its mail forum is robust and Postfix has outstanding
>> |documentation; perhaps the best of any software available in the FOSS
>> |world.
>> =
>> 
>> 
>> It is a good thing I read all the replies before I posted mine, as your
>> reply is almost word-for-word identical to what I was going to say.  :)


Outback> yeah... what he said... !!! :)

+1

:)

No, seriously... I was using sendmail before discovering postfix, and
pretty darn good at m4.  Or is that m4()dnl()? :)

But I've never found postfix without a knob to do something I want it to
do, and most of the knobs are set properly right out of the box. (And
reasonably named too!)

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Re: qmail or postfix?

[Outback Dingo]

On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Mike.  wrote:

> On 2/1/2011 at 10:23 AM Jerry wrote:
>
> |On Tue, 01 Feb 2011 15:32:26 +0100
> |Alessandro Baggi  articulated:
> |
> |> Hi list. Who is better, qmail or postfix?
> |
> |"qmail" is not actively supported by its developer. It requires
> |numerous patches, etc to bring it up to acceptable servicable
> standards.
> |
> |"Postfix" is actively maintained and is constantly being upgraded by
> |its author. Its mail forum is robust and Postfix has outstanding
> |documentation; perhaps the best of any software available in the FOSS
> |world.
>  =
>
>
> It is a good thing I read all the replies before I posted mine, as your
> reply is almost word-for-word identical to what I was going to say.  :)


yeah... what he said... !!! :)


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Re: qmail or postfix?

[Outback Dingo]

On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Mike.  wrote:

> On 2/1/2011 at 10:23 AM Jerry wrote:
>
> |On Tue, 01 Feb 2011 15:32:26 +0100
> |Alessandro Baggi  articulated:
> |
> |> Hi list. Who is better, qmail or postfix?
> |
> |"qmail" is not actively supported by its developer. It requires
> |numerous patches, etc to bring it up to acceptable servicable
> standards.
> |
> |"Postfix" is actively maintained and is constantly being upgraded by
> |its author. Its mail forum is robust and Postfix has outstanding
> |documentation; perhaps the best of any software available in the FOSS
> |world.
>  =
>
>
> It is a good thing I read all the replies before I posted mine, as your
> reply is almost word-for-word identical to what I was going to say.  :)


Postfix hands down is better, recent, well maintained and excellently
documented
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Re: qmail or postfix?

[Mike.]

On 2/1/2011 at 10:23 AM Jerry wrote:

|On Tue, 01 Feb 2011 15:32:26 +0100
|Alessandro Baggi  articulated:
|
|> Hi list. Who is better, qmail or postfix?
|
|"qmail" is not actively supported by its developer. It requires
|numerous patches, etc to bring it up to acceptable servicable
standards.
|
|"Postfix" is actively maintained and is constantly being upgraded by
|its author. Its mail forum is robust and Postfix has outstanding
|documentation; perhaps the best of any software available in the FOSS
|world.
 =


It is a good thing I read all the replies before I posted mine, as your
reply is almost word-for-word identical to what I was going to say.  :)



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Re: qmail or postfix?

[John Levine]

I like qmail, but I would, having written a book about it.

If you want something that works reasonably well out of the
box, I'd use Postfix.  If you want something you can tweak to
do whatever you want, qmail is more of a toolkit.

Don't use the version of qmail in ports, it includes way too many
sloppily written patches.  netqmail 1.06 is a reasonable place to
start.

http://qmail.org/netqmail/

I've replaced the qmail SMTP daemon with Bruce Guenter's mailfront,
which is in the ports collection.  It has a flexible plugin design
which I've used to do better logging, spamassassin and DCC during the
SMTP session, etc.

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Re: qmail or postfix?

[Jerry]

On Tue, 01 Feb 2011 15:32:26 +0100
Alessandro Baggi  articulated:

> Hi list. Who is better, qmail or postfix?

"qmail" is not actively supported by its developer. It requires
numerous patches, etc to bring it up to acceptable servicable standards.

"Postfix" is actively maintained and is constantly being upgraded by
its author. Its mail forum is robust and Postfix has outstanding
documentation; perhaps the best of any software available in the FOSS
world.

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Re: qmail or postfix?

[Kevin Wilcox]

On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 09:32, Alessandro Baggi
 wrote:

> Hi list. Who is better, qmail or postfix?
>
> thanks in advance

That's a loaded question. Both have advocates, just like "vi or
emacs", "Linux or Nothing", "FreeBSD or OpenBSD", "OS X or Windows"
and "X Window System or CLI".

That said, if you know neither and your requirements are met by both
of them, I'd opt for postfix. It isn't as burdened with dependencies
and, from what I can tell, it enjoys a larger, more active support
community.

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Re: qmail under 8.0-STABLE

[Peter]

> On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 23:40:33 -0600
> "Peter"  wrote:
>
>> > I have the following config:
>> >
>> > FreeBSD ppert-zone.com 8.0-STABLE FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE #0: Wed Apr 14
>> > 01:44:13 UTC 2010
>> > r...@canopus.ispsystem.net:/root/src/sys/i386/compile/ISPSYSTEM
>> > i386
>> >
>> > it is a vps running via a jail.   I have installed mail/qmail and
>> > added it to rc.conf.   It starts just fine but no remote mail ever
>> > gets delivered/received.  DNS wise the machine is pointed to a A
>> > record for it's domain but the provider has not (and will not) set
>> > up a reverse.
>> >
>> > Note: According to qmail-qstat/qmail-qread the mail is not in the
>> > queue either like it was before adding qmail startup to the rc.conf
>> >
>> > Ideas?
>>
>> What does the MX record for that domain point to?
>>   [dig mx domain.com]
>
> No MX
>

You need an MX record for that domain.
If using bind simplest way would be to:
ie: for emails @domain.com

domain.com. IN MX 1 mail.domain.com.

as long as mail.domain.com resolves to the correct IP.

If you want email for subdomains...
ie:@qmail.domain.com

mail.domain.com. IN MX 1 mail.domain.com.

etc.etc.

>>
>> Are you sure qmail is running/listening?
>>   [sockstat / netstat -an]
>
> Yes running
>>
>> Did you shutoff sendmail in rc.conf?
>>   sendmail_enable="NONE" I think...
>
> No sendmail is not running
>
>>
>> ]Peter[
>>
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Re: qmail under 8.0-STABLE

[Aryeh M. Friedman]

On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 23:40:33 -0600
"Peter"  wrote:

> > I have the following config:
> >
> > FreeBSD ppert-zone.com 8.0-STABLE FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE #0: Wed Apr 14
> > 01:44:13 UTC 2010
> > r...@canopus.ispsystem.net:/root/src/sys/i386/compile/ISPSYSTEM
> > i386
> >
> > it is a vps running via a jail.   I have installed mail/qmail and
> > added it to rc.conf.   It starts just fine but no remote mail ever
> > gets delivered/received.  DNS wise the machine is pointed to a A
> > record for it's domain but the provider has not (and will not) set
> > up a reverse.
> >
> > Note: According to qmail-qstat/qmail-qread the mail is not in the
> > queue either like it was before adding qmail startup to the rc.conf
> >
> > Ideas?
> 
> What does the MX record for that domain point to?
>   [dig mx domain.com]

No MX

> 
> Are you sure qmail is running/listening?
>   [sockstat / netstat -an]

Yes running
> 
> Did you shutoff sendmail in rc.conf?
>   sendmail_enable="NONE" I think...

No sendmail is not running

> 
> ]Peter[
> 

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Re: qmail under 8.0-STABLE

[Peter]

> I have the following config:
>
> FreeBSD ppert-zone.com 8.0-STABLE FreeBSD 8.0-STABLE #0: Wed Apr 14
> 01:44:13 UTC 2010
> r...@canopus.ispsystem.net:/root/src/sys/i386/compile/ISPSYSTEM  i386
>
> it is a vps running via a jail.   I have installed mail/qmail and added
> it to rc.conf.   It starts just fine but no remote mail ever gets
> delivered/received.  DNS wise the machine is pointed to a A record for
> it's domain but the provider has not (and will not) set up a reverse.
>
> Note: According to qmail-qstat/qmail-qread the mail is not in the queue
> either like it was before adding qmail startup to the rc.conf
>
> Ideas?

What does the MX record for that domain point to?
  [dig mx domain.com]

Are you sure qmail is running/listening?
  [sockstat / netstat -an]

Did you shutoff sendmail in rc.conf?
  sendmail_enable="NONE" I think...

]Peter[

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Re: qmail on debian to qmail on freebsd

[Dan]

Sollunga S([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2008.11.11 04:32:08 -0800:
> Hi all 
> 
> Greetings to all, this is my first time installation of freebsd, i am going 
> to use this installation for my mail server obviously qmail+ldap. I have a 
> bit of fear to go ahead on it, can anyone clarify please?
> 
> Previous Qmail installation is on debian 3.x and the installation is based on 
> http://www.shupp.org/toaster/,
> 
> Now i want to move to a better hardware and ofcourse updated user friendly 
> and uptodate?OS. here i opted for freebsd and qmail 1.03 along with this i 
> want to meet users addressbook issue, so i thought of going behind ldap and 
> mysql, (guide me if i am wrong). My doubts are earlier?the Mailbox and 
> the?cleartext vpasswd are bit scaring me, so i would like to use mysql in 
> place without?disturbing any of the users?mail addresses, ( i have close to 
> 32gb of data's in mailbox's and some mailing list+forwards). also would like 
> to procure password change option securely. How can i make this migration 
> smoothly with the help of freebsd?
> 
> please
> 

Why would you want Mailbox over Maildir is beyond me. I've used
qmail-ldap from nrg4u.com with excellent results before. Why would
anyone would use a relational database over LDAP for email acct storage
is also beyond me. It just does not make any sense once you realize
LDAP's advantages.
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Re: qmail w/ SMTP auth using freebsd port

[Vince Hoffman]

Jeff Dickens wrote:
> I used the patches and documents from qmail.jms1.net and built my own
> qmail, and it works well.  I think a port that tracks qmail + jms1's
> current combined patch set would be well received.
> 

For what is worth the mail/qmail-tls port says it supports smtp-auth. I
dont use qmail myself though so I havent tried it.


Vince

> BTW, I copied the maintainer of the qmail port on my earlier message,
> and it eventually bounced:
> 
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>host mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]: 450 4.7.1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>Recipient address rejected: Service is unavailable:
>retry timeout exceeded
> 
> 
> Michael P. Soulier wrote:
>> On 10/04/08 Jeff Dickens said:
>>
>>  
>>> Is there a document on how to set up SMTP auth using the FreeBSD
>>> qmail port?
>>> 
>>
>> I didn't think qmail supported anything as modern as smtp auth. Most
>> likely
>> the expectation would be to proxy qmail through a tool that performs
>> it for
>> you.
>> Mike
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Re: qmail w/ SMTP auth using freebsd port

[Jeff Dickens]

I used the patches and documents from qmail.jms1.net and built my own 
qmail, and it works well.  I think a port that tracks qmail + jms1's 
current combined patch set would be well received.


BTW, I copied the maintainer of the qmail port on my earlier message, 
and it eventually bounced:


 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
   host mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]: 450 4.7.1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
   Recipient address rejected: Service is unavailable:
   retry timeout exceeded


Michael P. Soulier wrote:

On 10/04/08 Jeff Dickens said:

  
Is there a document on how to set up SMTP auth using the FreeBSD qmail 
port?



I didn't think qmail supported anything as modern as smtp auth. Most likely
the expectation would be to proxy qmail through a tool that performs it for
you. 


Mike
  

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Re: QMail Help

[Scott Ballantyne]

> Paul A. Procacci wrote:
> > Victor Farah wrote:
> >> Hello
> >> I'm running qmail and I created an smtproutes file, inside my 
> >> /var/qmail/control/ directory.  I then sent a killall -ALRM 
> >> qmail-send, but it doesn't seem like it uses that smtproutes file I 
> >> made.  I start qmail using supervise scripts.
> >>
> > Hello,
> >
> > This isn't the right place to ask this question.  Irregardless of 
> > that, since you are using supervise to manage the daemon, try the 
> > following:
> >
> > svc -h /path/to/service/directory
> >
> > OR
> >
> > svc -a /path/to/service/directory
> > ~Paul
> 
> I Agree, this would be better posted to a qmail list, but anyway:
> 
> I think -ALRM tells qmail to re-run the queue, what you need is to send 
> a HUP signal to the qmail-send, like "pkill -HUP qmail-send", so it will 
> read the control files again.
> Have you read the Life With Qmail docs?

See qmail-control(5) and qmail-remote(8).

smtproutes is read by qmail-remote not qmail-send. qmail-remote
doesn't require a signal since a new instance is started for each
delivery. If smtproutes is not working, something else is wrong.

Check the syntax of the file (it is described in qmail-remote man
page). You may need to use wild cards to handle all instances for that
domain name. If that's all fine, then perhaps there's a problem on the
remote host.

sdb
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Re: QMail Help

[Vinicius Vianna]

Paul A. Procacci wrote:

Victor Farah wrote:

Hello
I'm running qmail and I created an smtproutes file, inside my 
/var/qmail/control/ directory.  I then sent a killall -ALRM 
qmail-send, but it doesn't seem like it uses that smtproutes file I 
made.  I start qmail using supervise scripts.



Hello,

This isn't the right place to ask this question.  Irregardless of 
that, since you are using supervise to manage the daemon, try the 
following:


svc -h /path/to/service/directory

OR

svc -a /path/to/service/directory
~Paul


I Agree, this would be better posted to a qmail list, but anyway:

I think -ALRM tells qmail to re-run the queue, what you need is to send 
a HUP signal to the qmail-send, like "pkill -HUP qmail-send", so it will 
read the control files again.

Have you read the Life With Qmail docs?

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Re: QMail Help

[Paul A. Procacci]

Victor Farah wrote:

Hello
I'm running qmail and I created an smtproutes file, inside my 
/var/qmail/control/ directory.  I then sent a killall -ALRM 
qmail-send, but it doesn't seem like it uses that smtproutes file I 
made.  I start qmail using supervise scripts.


Also in my smtproutes file can I use IP's, and do they have to be 
enclosed inside brackets?

E.G. super.com:[1.2.3.4]
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Hello,

This isn't the right place to ask this question.  Irregardless of that, 
since you are using supervise to manage the daemon, try the following:


svc -h /path/to/service/directory

OR

svc -a /path/to/service/directory


If neither of those work, you can restart the daemon altogether

svc -d /path/to/service/directory

followed by

svc -u /path/to/service/directory

~Paul
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RE: qmail help

[Bill Banks]

The qmail is delivering to the mailboxes. I want to use /var/spool/mail,  I
know i have to use procmail but how do i set it up?

---
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Wachusett Programming  Ourweb
http://www.ourweb.net
http://www.ourwebtemplates.com


-Original Message-
From: Giorgos Keramidas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 10:14 AM
To: Bill Banks
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: qmail help


On 2007-09-13 22:48, Bill Banks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just make qmail from port and killed sendmail. I can send mail out but
> can't recvice it. I think that the mailboxes is not made,,

You'll have to provide us with *many* more details about the precise
steps you followed, what you wanted to do, what you have done so far,
and so on...

Please see <http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html> and then
post a question which is a bit longer, but contains more useful content.
This way we will be able to help you more effectivelly, and it will be a
much more pleasant experience for everyone, including you :)



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Re: qmail help

[Giorgos Keramidas]

On 2007-09-13 22:48, Bill Banks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just make qmail from port and killed sendmail. I can send mail out but
> can't recvice it. I think that the mailboxes is not made,,

You'll have to provide us with *many* more details about the precise
steps you followed, what you wanted to do, what you have done so far,
and so on...

Please see  and then
post a question which is a bit longer, but contains more useful content.
This way we will be able to help you more effectivelly, and it will be a
much more pleasant experience for everyone, including you :)

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Re: qmail virtual domain and alias

[Noah]

forget it.  I am switching to another MTA that is easier to use.

cheers,

Noah


John L wrote:
I thought my explanation was fairly clear.  Also domain.com is a 
sample domain name and really has nothing to do with the issue at 
hand.  Sample domain names are used all the time In examples and 
should not hinder arriving or providing solutions to configuring qmail 
aliases and virtualdomains.


The problem is almost certainly that you have a typo in a control file 
somewhere.  Since you are unwilling to show us the actual contents of 
those control files, it is unlikely that we can help you.  If you think 
it would be a security problem if people knew your real domain, you have 
worse problems to fix than a few e-mail forwards.


If you read the qmail list, you will have seen many, many exchanges 
along these lines.  If you want real help, post real data.


Regards,
John Levine, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for 
Dummies",

Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://www.johnlevine.com, ex-Mayor
"More Wiener schnitzel, please", said Tom, revealingly.

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Re: qmail virtual domain and alias

[John L]

I thought my explanation was fairly clear.  Also domain.com is a sample 
domain name and really has nothing to do with the issue at hand.  Sample 
domain names are used all the time In examples and should not hinder arriving 
or providing solutions to configuring qmail aliases and virtualdomains.


The problem is almost certainly that you have a typo in a control file 
somewhere.  Since you are unwilling to show us the actual contents of 
those control files, it is unlikely that we can help you.  If you think it 
would be a security problem if people knew your real domain, you have 
worse problems to fix than a few e-mail forwards.


If you read the qmail list, you will have seen many, many exchanges along 
these lines.  If you want real help, post real data.


Regards,
John Levine, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for 
Dummies",
Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://www.johnlevine.com, ex-Mayor
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Re: qmail virtual domain and alias

[David Benfell]

On Sat, 05 May 2007 08:35:43 -0700, Noah wrote:
>  Hi John,
> 
>  hahaha - now that is a funny response.
> 
>  I thought my explanation was fairly clear.  Also domain.com is a sample 
>  domain name and really has nothing to do with the issue at hand.  Sample 
>  domain names are used all the time In examples and should not hinder 
>  arriving or providing solutions to configuring qmail aliases and 
>  virtualdomains.
> 
But particularly in anything that has anything to do with domains, one
approach is to test configurations externally for problems that may not
be apparent internally.  In order to do this, you must provide accurate
information.


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Re: qmail virtual domain and alias

[John Levine]

>Since I am not getting a response from the qmail list - well there are a 
>bunch of knowledgeable members here.  So...

We saw your question on the qmail list, but we couldn't answer it because
you're not telling us what you're really doing.  (Unless you are the
registrant for domain.com, which you are not.)

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Re: qmail virtual domain and alias

[Noah]

Hi John,

hahaha - now that is a funny response.

I thought my explanation was fairly clear.  Also domain.com is a sample 
domain name and really has nothing to do with the issue at hand.  Sample 
domain names are used all the time In examples and should not hinder 
arriving or providing solutions to configuring qmail aliases and 
virtualdomains.


cheers,

noah


John Levine wrote:
Since I am not getting a response from the qmail list - well there are a 
bunch of knowledgeable members here.  So...


We saw your question on the qmail list, but we couldn't answer it because
you're not telling us what you're really doing.  (Unless you are the
registrant for domain.com, which you are not.)

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Re: Qmail & Vpopmail From Ports

[Rachel Florentine]

7676Thanks everyone for your help. It's been a long weekend with lots of 
mistakes, but I'm up now.
Rachel




 

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Re: Qmail & Vpopmail From Ports

[Donald J. O'Neill]

On Saturday 18 November 2006 20:54, Rachel Florentine wrote:
> 7883- Original Message 
> From: Tom Ierna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > I've installed qmail/vpopmail many ways - from source, using the
> > instructions from qmailrocks and most recently using the instructions
> > found here:
> >
> >
> > http://www.tnpi.biz/internet/mail/toaster/install.shtml108
> >
> >
> > The "toaster" method seems to me to be the most comprehensive, and you
> > can use (or not use) ports as you see fit.
>
> make test resulted in this:
>
> Failed Test Stat Wstat Total Fail  Failed  List of Failed
> ---
> t/Toaster.t1   256411   2.44%  22
> t/toaster-watcher.t1   256231   4.35%  21
> 7 tests and 5 subtests skipped.
> Failed 2/24 test scripts, 91.67% okay. 2/364 subtests failed, 99.45% okay.
> *** Error code 255
>
> Stop in /usr/local/Mail-Toaster-5.03.
>
> I'm "toast".
> Rachel
>
>
To run that script and install the toaster, you are going to find that you 
need to install one heck of a lot of perl programs. You did see the part at 
the very beginning about installing perl, correct? It's not just install 
perl, that's the easy part, it's all the other perl helper programs that need 
to be installed.

A very much easier method to install is located here:
http://freebsdrocks.net/

Don
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Re: Qmail & Vpopmail From Ports

[Tom Ierna]

On Nov 18, 2006, at 9:54 PM, Rachel Florentine wrote:

make test resulted in this:

Failed Test Stat Wstat Total Fail  Failed  List of Failed
-- 
-

t/Toaster.t1   256411   2.44%  22
t/toaster-watcher.t1   256231   4.35%  21
7 tests and 5 subtests skipped.
Failed 2/24 test scripts, 91.67% okay. 2/364 subtests failed,  
99.45% okay.

*** Error code 255

Stop in /usr/local/Mail-Toaster-5.03.

I'm "toast".
Rachel



IIRC, when installing for the first time, there were "make test"  
errors, but they all worked themselves out once all installation and  
configuration was complete.



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RE: Qmail & Vpopmail From Ports

[Andras Kende]

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rachel Florentine
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 1:19 PM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Qmail & Vpopmail From Ports

Hi;
I've installed both qmail and vpopmail from ports. Qmail is up and running
because of the great instructions provided. But I haven't figured out how to
get vpopmail up (and, of course, working with qmail). Please help.
Rachel


Hi Rachel,

Here is a simpler toaster howto, which worked perfectly for me :

http://www.bsdguides.org/guides/freebsd/mailserver/qmail+vpopmail+qmailadmin
.php


Andras Kende
http://www.kende.com



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Re: Qmail & Vpopmail From Ports

[Rachel Florentine]

- Original Message 
From: John L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> In general I agree.  The qmail port, unlike most of the other ports, is 
> junk.



I didn't realize you're the author of O'Reilly's book on Qmail :)
I'll take your opinion a little more seriously.
I noticed that although I have all my processes up:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/log/qmail (105) ps|grep qmail
  368 con- S  0:00.15 supervise qmail-send
  370 con- S  0:00.16 supervise qmail-smtpd
  804 con- S  0:00.00 qmail-lspawn ./Mailbox
 2068  p0  D+ 0:00.00 grep qmail

nothing new seems to have been added into any of the "current" logs! Is there a 
way to build qmail with ports, configuring it around the problems? If not, the 
reason I'm doing this is to get ezmlm-idx up. How do you recommend I build?
TIA,
Rachel




 

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Re: Qmail & Vpopmail From Ports

[Rachel Florentine]

7883- Original Message 
From: Tom Ierna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I've installed qmail/vpopmail many ways - from source, using the instructions
> from qmailrocks and most recently using the instructions found here:
>

> http://www.tnpi.biz/internet/mail/toaster/install.shtml108
>

> The "toaster" method seems to me to be the most comprehensive, and you can 
> use (or not use) ports as you see fit.


make test resulted in this:

Failed Test Stat Wstat Total Fail  Failed  List of Failed
---
t/Toaster.t1   256411   2.44%  22
t/toaster-watcher.t1   256231   4.35%  21
7 tests and 5 subtests skipped.
Failed 2/24 test scripts, 91.67% okay. 2/364 subtests failed, 99.45% okay.
*** Error code 255

Stop in /usr/local/Mail-Toaster-5.03.

I'm "toast".
Rachel





 

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Re: Qmail & Vpopmail From Ports

[John L]

John, there's a rationalle for using ports, you know. A very, very 
strong argument in favor of them.


In general I agree.  The qmail port, unlike most of the other ports, is 
junk.



Would you mind telling me how to get vpopmail working?


If you really want to know, please read chapter 13 of my qmail book.

R's,
John
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Re: Qmail & Vpopmail From Ports

[Tom Ierna]

On Nov 18, 2006, at 4:50 PM, Rachel Florentine wrote:

Well, going to that page led me to this as the authority for vpopmail:

http://dev.qmailrocks.org/qmail/freebsd/vpopmail_std.htm


I've installed qmail/vpopmail many ways - from source, using the  
instructions from qmailrocks and most recently using the instructions  
found here:


http://www.tnpi.biz/internet/mail/toaster/install.shtml

The "toaster" method seems to me to be the most comprehensive, and  
you can use (or not use) ports as you see fit.


Installing over your current installation using the toaster  
instructions should work OK - the install scripts seem to try to do  
the right thing.


Best of luck,
-Tom

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Re: Qmail & Vpopmail From Ports

[Rachel Florentine]

- Original Message 
From: John L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>> Why would I want to rip out a perfectly good installation?
>
> Because it's not perfectly good.  Many of the patches only sort of work.
>
>> I just want to get vpopmail working with qmail.

> If you don't care whether it crashes mysteriously and loses mail, you 
> might as well use the port.  If you actually want it to work, delete the 
> port and use netqmail.

John, there's a rationalle for using ports, you know. A very, very strong 
argument in favor of them. 
Would you mind telling me how to get vpopmail working?
TIA,
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Re: Qmail & Vpopmail From Ports

[John Levine]

Don't install qmail from the port, which includes a whole bunch of
ill-advised patches.  Instead, download and install netqmail 1.05 from
www.qmail.org, which has a small set of patches that really work.

I've been meaning to make a port of netqmail, but haven't had time yet.

You'll also want daemontools and ucspi-tcp.  For both of those, the
ports are OK.

Haven't tried the port of vpopmail, but the port has a disconcertingly
large number of patches that it silently applies.

R's,
John

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Re: Qmail & Vpopmail From Ports

[Rachel Florentine]

797984- Original Message 
From: Peter Thoenen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> http://dev.qmailrocks.org/qmail/freebsd/109 is your friend.



Well, going to that page led me to this as the authority for vpopmail:

http://dev.qmailrocks.org/qmail/freebsd/vpopmail_std.htm

(I already have qmail working.) That page seems to only offer these two 
commands as advice (since I've installed vpopmail and qmail from ports):

chown vpopmail:vchkpw ~vpopmail/bin/vchkpw
chmod 6711 ~vpopmail/bin/vchkpw

And, according to the instructions...

If you don't get any errors, then Vpopmail is good to go!

Well, I didn't get any errors, but when I reboot and ps there's no vpopmail :( 
What do?
TIA,
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Re: Qmail webmail solution

[DAve]

Rodrigo G. Tavares de Souza wrote:

Hi,

   Does anybody know a free webmail solution for Qmail?

Best regards,
Rodrigo Souza


Anything that uses imap or can read a Maildir will work just fine. 
Depends on if you want to connect to your mailstore from another 
machine, or read your mail off the filesystem.


sqwebmail is quite popular with qmail users,
http://www.inter7.com/sqwebmail/sqwebmail.html

We use Squirrelmail because I like the plugin architecture, which allows 
us to modify/write plugins easily,

http://www.squirrelmail.org/

DAve

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Re: Qmail - Webmail solution

[Rob W.]

SquirrelMail
http://www.squirrelmail.org/

- Original Message - 
From: "Rodrigo G. Tavares de Souza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 3:01 PM
Subject: Qmail - Webmail solution



Hi,

  Does anybody know a free webmail solution for Qmail?

Best regards,
Rodrigo Souza
Sao Paulo - Brazil
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Re: qmail + vpopmail + procmail

[Angelin Lalev]

Michael P. Soulier wrote:


On 12/28/05, Angelin Lalev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 


But now my friend's clients want all mail that is tagged as spam
(in my case, prefixed with "[SPAM]" in the subject)  moved to
separate courier imap folder (for example .SPAM).
I figured out (maybe I make error here) that I need procmail
to deliver the mail to the different courier-imap folders in the Maildir.
I couldn't find on the net clear algorithm that does that. (or at least
I failed reproducing it).
Anyone could help?
   



This is up to the end user to do. My $HOME/.qmail looks like so

| preline procmail ~/.procmailrc


From there, you can filter in .procmailrc like...


:0
^Subject:.*SPAM
$MAILDIR/junkmail/

where MAILDIR=$HOME/Maildir, or some other appropriate place for the user's MUA.


 


Thanks very much for the advice.
I've tried something like that, but in the end of .procmailrc file I've 
piped the "regular" messages to vdelivermail, instead
of delivering them directly (stupid, wasn't it :-)). I'm sure that it 
would work even that way, if I used -p option and 
correct paths in .procmailrc file.
Anyway, I've read in the net that there is some incompatibility of exit 
codes between procmail and qmail.
Since I was not sure if that's fixed, had no time to dig into the 
documentation and I was working

on production system, decided to use maildrop, which did the job nicely.
But I'm still curious if that incompatibility is fixed ...


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Re: qmail + vpopmail + procmail

[Michael P. Soulier]

On 12/28/05, Angelin Lalev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But now my friend's clients want all mail that is tagged as spam
> (in my case, prefixed with "[SPAM]" in the subject)  moved to
> separate courier imap folder (for example .SPAM).
> I figured out (maybe I make error here) that I need procmail
> to deliver the mail to the different courier-imap folders in the Maildir.
> I couldn't find on the net clear algorithm that does that. (or at least
> I failed reproducing it).
> Anyone could help?

This is up to the end user to do. My $HOME/.qmail looks like so

| preline procmail ~/.procmailrc

>From there, you can filter in .procmailrc like...

:0
^Subject:.*SPAM
$MAILDIR/junkmail/

where MAILDIR=$HOME/Maildir, or some other appropriate place for the user's MUA.

Mike
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touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction."
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Re: qmail + vpopmail + procmail

[Lowell Gilbert]

Angelin Lalev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> It's been a long time since my last day as a system administrator,
> but recently I needed to install a qmail server for a friend.
> Although I had forgoten many things, I've managed to make
> a working netqmail 1.05 + SMTP-AUTH + TLS patch +
> qmail-scanner + spam-assassin + courier imap + vpopmail (mysql db)
> installation, following scattered trough internet documents and
> howto's.
> But now my friend's clients want all mail that is tagged as spam
> (in my case, prefixed with "[SPAM]" in the subject)  moved to
> separate courier imap folder (for example .SPAM).
> I figured out (maybe I make error here) that I need procmail
> to deliver the mail to the different courier-imap folders in the Maildir.
> I couldn't find on the net clear algorithm that does that. (or at least
> I failed reproducing it).
> Anyone could help?

I haven't used Courier, but I thought it used Maildir mailboxes
natively, and procmail can deliver to Maildir.  So all you would 
need to do is configure procmail accordingly (the procmailrc(5) 
has configuration, and procmailex(5) has recipes), and it should
Just Work.  

But I haven't actually done it myself; I'm just trusting the
documentation (!).

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Re: Qmail / FreeBSD / vqadmin problem

[Madhusudan Singh]

Hi

 Thanks once again for your message.

 I followed directions at the following website :
 
http://www.bsdguides.org/guides/freebsd/mailserver/qmail+vpopmail+qmailadmin.php

 There was one strange comment on this page :

 "Note: the binc-imap configuration is not complete enough to work.  It will 
be complete tomorrow."

 I wonder what does it really mean.

 Anyways, the entire procedure of installing from ports went through. Now, I 
wish to configure things so that only SSL access to smtp and the binc-imap 
server is permitted.

  Do I need to do some qmail side configuration for this or is just a matter 
of opening only selected ports (which ports ? 995 and imaps ?) ?

Thanks for the lifewithqmail link. I have printed out the pdf version and will 
shortly go through it.
 
MS
On Thursday 10 March 2005 05:57, Peter Risdon wrote: 

> On Thu, 2005-03-10 at 00:12 -0500, Madhusudan Singh wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I am new to both FreeBSD and qmail. However, I am definitely not new to
> > unix/linux (2 years of HP-UX and 7 years of Linux experience). I am using
> > a pf firewall on a machine that will host a webserver as well as my
> > mailserver.
> >
> > I am interested in setting up IMAP access to email for my users (do not
> > care for POP3 access). However, I found installation instructions on
> > qmailrocks.org and followed them to the letter (note to the author
> > - /usr/home/vpopmail does not exist - I had to create it by hand - maybe
> > the first shell script on step 2 needs some editing ?), until I installed
> > vqadmin and setup the passwd and placed .htpasswd in
> > /usr/local/www/cgi-bin, restarted apache (built from ports), and tried to
> > login through the cgi interface from another machine. Ports www, 8080 and
> > https are open in /etc/pf.conf. But I keep getting "Waiting for "
> > and never can authenticate with the right password.
>
> A couple of possibilities.
>
> The default installation of vpopmail puts the vpopmail directory
> in /usr/local and if you want to use /usr/home you have to supply the
> correct argument to vpopmail when you build it.
>
> >From /usr/ports/mail/vpopmail/Makefile:
>
> [...]
> # User-configurable variables
> #
> # Define these to change from the default behaviour
> #
> [...]
> # PREFIX- installation area for vpopmail (see comment below)
> [...]
> # Uncomment this, or set PREFIX to /home if you have an existing
> # vpopmail install with the vpopmail users' home directory set to
> # /home/vpopmail - package rules dictate we default
> to /usr/local/vpopmail
> #
> #PREFIX?=   /home
>
> Note that this will, in my experience, create some odd directory trees
> in /usr/home (such as /usr/home/lib and /usr/home/libexec) which can
> safely be deleted subsequently. I don't use vqadmin, but this would need
> to know where to find the vpopmail binaries, and I can't see any make
> options that might define this, so that might be a major stumbling
> block. A possible cause of the behaviour you report would be that
> vqadmin is trying to run vpopmail binaries with inappropriate paths, or
> to read directory structures in the wrong place.
>
> One workaround, if your real vpopmail directory is in /usr/local and you
> do need it to be in /usr/home is to symlink /usr/local/vpopmail
> to /usr/home/vpopmail.
>
> Incidentally, the FreeBSD installation of qmail recommends
> using /var/service and much of the qmail documentation assumes the
> existence of /service. My own approach to this is to use /var/service
> but then symlink it to /service so that anything that assumes the
> existence of this directory will work.
>
> However, neither vpopmail not vqadmin would give you an imap server, and
> you don't say whether you have installed one separately. You do need to
> and a commonly used option in this case would be courier-imap because
> it's written by the same folk who brought us vpopmail, and integrates
> well with this and qmail. It isn't the only choice, of course, and
> you're generally best advised to use something you're familiar with.
>
> > The question is :
> >
> > What am I possibly doing wrong ? A port that is not open, or is it some
> > other problem that a FreeBSD / Qmail newbie might have missed ?
>
> It's generally best to use default installation locations with ports,
> especially when you're installing a few that will work with each other.
>
> Then, before testing a cgi interface like vqadmin, make sure everything
> works. Test qmail, (telnet) test imap, test vpopmail with a domain and a
> user or two on the command line. If these things aren't working
> properly, then vqadmin won't either.
>
> www.lifewithqmail.org is probably the most authoritative site to use as
> a reference, together with inter7's website and http://cr.yp.to for some
> perhaps slightly terse but very good initial docs.
>
> If you need more help, maybe say whether you have installed an imap
> server, and whether the underlying technologies - qmail, vpopmail, imap
> - are working.
>
> Pete

Re: Qmail / FreeBSD / vqadmin problem

[Madhusudan Singh]

On Thursday 10 March 2005 05:57, Peter Risdon wrote: 

> On Thu, 2005-03-10 at 00:12 -0500, Madhusudan Singh wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I am new to both FreeBSD and qmail. However, I am definitely not new to
> > unix/linux (2 years of HP-UX and 7 years of Linux experience). I am using
> > a pf firewall on a machine that will host a webserver as well as my
> > mailserver.
> >
> > I am interested in setting up IMAP access to email for my users (do not
> > care for POP3 access). However, I found installation instructions on
> > qmailrocks.org and followed them to the letter (note to the author
> > - /usr/home/vpopmail does not exist - I had to create it by hand - maybe
> > the first shell script on step 2 needs some editing ?), until I installed
> > vqadmin and setup the passwd and placed .htpasswd in
> > /usr/local/www/cgi-bin, restarted apache (built from ports), and tried to
> > login through the cgi interface from another machine. Ports www, 8080 and
> > https are open in /etc/pf.conf. But I keep getting "Waiting for "
> > and never can authenticate with the right password.
>
> A couple of possibilities.
>
> The default installation of vpopmail puts the vpopmail directory
> in /usr/local and if you want to use /usr/home you have to supply the
> correct argument to vpopmail when you build it.
>
> >From /usr/ports/mail/vpopmail/Makefile:
>
> [...]
> # User-configurable variables
> #
> # Define these to change from the default behaviour
> #
> [...]
> # PREFIX- installation area for vpopmail (see comment below)
> [...]
> # Uncomment this, or set PREFIX to /home if you have an existing
> # vpopmail install with the vpopmail users' home directory set to
> # /home/vpopmail - package rules dictate we default
> to /usr/local/vpopmail
> #
> #PREFIX?=   /home
>
> Note that this will, in my experience, create some odd directory trees
> in /usr/home (such as /usr/home/lib and /usr/home/libexec) which can
> safely be deleted subsequently. I don't use vqadmin, but this would need
> to know where to find the vpopmail binaries, and I can't see any make
> options that might define this, so that might be a major stumbling
> block. A possible cause of the behaviour you report would be that
> vqadmin is trying to run vpopmail binaries with inappropriate paths, or
> to read directory structures in the wrong place.
>
> One workaround, if your real vpopmail directory is in /usr/local and you
> do need it to be in /usr/home is to symlink /usr/local/vpopmail
> to /usr/home/vpopmail.
>
> Incidentally, the FreeBSD installation of qmail recommends
> using /var/service and much of the qmail documentation assumes the
> existence of /service. My own approach to this is to use /var/service
> but then symlink it to /service so that anything that assumes the
> existence of this directory will work.
>
> However, neither vpopmail not vqadmin would give you an imap server, and
> you don't say whether you have installed one separately. You do need to
> and a commonly used option in this case would be courier-imap because
> it's written by the same folk who brought us vpopmail, and integrates
> well with this and qmail. It isn't the only choice, of course, and
> you're generally best advised to use something you're familiar with.
>
> > The question is :
> >
> > What am I possibly doing wrong ? A port that is not open, or is it some
> > other problem that a FreeBSD / Qmail newbie might have missed ?
>
> It's generally best to use default installation locations with ports,
> especially when you're installing a few that will work with each other.
>
> Then, before testing a cgi interface like vqadmin, make sure everything
> works. Test qmail, (telnet) test imap, test vpopmail with a domain and a
> user or two on the command line. If these things aren't working
> properly, then vqadmin won't either.
>
> www.lifewithqmail.org is probably the most authoritative site to use as
> a reference, together with inter7's website and http://cr.yp.to for some
> perhaps slightly terse but very good initial docs.
>
> If you need more help, maybe say whether you have installed an imap
> server, and whether the underlying technologies - qmail, vpopmail, imap
> - are working.
>
> Peter.

Thanks for your informative response. I apologize if I did not stress this 
point enough in my initial email. I was following instructions on 
freebsd.qmailrocks.org to the *letter* and building from source as is 
strongly recommended there.

The install is currently in an interrupted state. Setting up IMAP *would have 
been* one of the next steps.

I am right now at the following step :

http://freebsd.qmailrocks.org/vqadmin.htm

For an overview of the entire installation, please see :

http://freebsd.qmailrocks.org/install.htm
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Re: Qmail / FreeBSD / vqadmin problem

[Peter Risdon]

On Thu, 2005-03-10 at 00:12 -0500, Madhusudan Singh wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I am new to both FreeBSD and qmail. However, I am definitely not new to 
> unix/linux (2 years of HP-UX and 7 years of Linux experience). I am using a 
> pf firewall on a machine that will host a webserver as well as my mailserver.
> 
> I am interested in setting up IMAP access to email for my users (do not care 
> for POP3 access). However, I found installation instructions on 
> qmailrocks.org and followed them to the letter (note to the author 
> - /usr/home/vpopmail does not exist - I had to create it by hand - maybe the 
> first shell script on step 2 needs some editing ?), until I installed vqadmin 
> and setup the passwd and placed .htpasswd in /usr/local/www/cgi-bin, 
> restarted apache (built from ports), and tried to login through the cgi 
> interface from another machine. Ports www, 8080 and https are open 
> in /etc/pf.conf. But I keep getting "Waiting for " and never can 
> authenticate with the right password.

A couple of possibilities.

The default installation of vpopmail puts the vpopmail directory
in /usr/local and if you want to use /usr/home you have to supply the
correct argument to vpopmail when you build it.
>From /usr/ports/mail/vpopmail/Makefile:

[...]
# User-configurable variables
#
# Define these to change from the default behaviour
#
[...]
# PREFIX- installation area for vpopmail (see comment below)
[...]
# Uncomment this, or set PREFIX to /home if you have an existing
# vpopmail install with the vpopmail users' home directory set to
# /home/vpopmail - package rules dictate we default
to /usr/local/vpopmail
#
#PREFIX?=   /home

Note that this will, in my experience, create some odd directory trees
in /usr/home (such as /usr/home/lib and /usr/home/libexec) which can
safely be deleted subsequently. I don't use vqadmin, but this would need
to know where to find the vpopmail binaries, and I can't see any make
options that might define this, so that might be a major stumbling
block. A possible cause of the behaviour you report would be that
vqadmin is trying to run vpopmail binaries with inappropriate paths, or
to read directory structures in the wrong place.

One workaround, if your real vpopmail directory is in /usr/local and you
do need it to be in /usr/home is to symlink /usr/local/vpopmail
to /usr/home/vpopmail.

Incidentally, the FreeBSD installation of qmail recommends
using /var/service and much of the qmail documentation assumes the
existence of /service. My own approach to this is to use /var/service
but then symlink it to /service so that anything that assumes the
existence of this directory will work.

However, neither vpopmail not vqadmin would give you an imap server, and
you don't say whether you have installed one separately. You do need to
and a commonly used option in this case would be courier-imap because
it's written by the same folk who brought us vpopmail, and integrates
well with this and qmail. It isn't the only choice, of course, and
you're generally best advised to use something you're familiar with.

> 
> The question is :
> 
> What am I possibly doing wrong ? A port that is not open, or is it some other 
> problem that a FreeBSD / Qmail newbie might have missed ?

It's generally best to use default installation locations with ports,
especially when you're installing a few that will work with each other.

Then, before testing a cgi interface like vqadmin, make sure everything
works. Test qmail, (telnet) test imap, test vpopmail with a domain and a
user or two on the command line. If these things aren't working
properly, then vqadmin won't either.

www.lifewithqmail.org is probably the most authoritative site to use as
a reference, together with inter7's website and http://cr.yp.to for some
perhaps slightly terse but very good initial docs.

If you need more help, maybe say whether you have installed an imap
server, and whether the underlying technologies - qmail, vpopmail, imap
- are working.

Peter.

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Re: qmail?

[gabriel]

Okay.

Thanks!

On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 12:33:20 -0700, Chris Warren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Hash: SHA1
> 
> I've added "localhost" to the "locals" and "rcpthosts" files.  Seemed
> to take care of that.
> 
> gabriel wrote:
> 
> | very cool, I edited the appropiate files and restarted everything.
> | The problem is then I send the periodic It gets bounced cause it
> | cant find [EMAIL PROTECTED] *sigh*
> |
> |
> | On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 11:47:36 -0700, Chris Warren
> | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> |
> 
> | My defaulthost just has "myhost", and defaultdomain has "mydomain".
> |
> |
> | My daily run output is sent from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> |
> |
> | gabriel wrote:
> |
> | | I did actually, it USED to have somedomain.com in a lot of the |
> | files but I changed them to the actual domain. Should they be the |
> | mail server's host or the domain? | | | On Sun, 20 Feb 2005
> | 11:24:15 -0700, Chris Warren | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: |
> |
> | | I believe this is done in your /var/qmail/control/defaultdomain
> | and |  /var/qmail/control/defaulthost files. In fact, check through
> | all | the files in the control dir to make sure they are right. | |
> | Chris | | gabriel wrote: | | | Ok, well I installed qmail and all
> | that jazz through Matt's Mail | | toaster. Everything appeared to
> | have been installed without any | | problems, obviously some
> | tweaking had to be done to customize the | | installation but
> | nothing major. At this point, my only problem | | appears to be the
> | from address that its used when sending the daily |  | run output -
> | i.e. its sending from [EMAIL PROTECTED] | as | opposed
> | to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or at least localhost which would be | just |
> | fine. | | Has anyone got any experience with this? I just | need to
> | know where | to change that darned from address. I'd hate | to have
> | to reinstall | the toaster _again_ :( | | Cheers! |
> |
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Re: qmail?

[Chris Warren]

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I've added "localhost" to the "locals" and "rcpthosts" files.  Seemed
to take care of that.
gabriel wrote:
| very cool, I edited the appropiate files and restarted everything.
| The problem is then I send the periodic It gets bounced cause it
| cant find [EMAIL PROTECTED] *sigh*
|
|
| On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 11:47:36 -0700, Chris Warren
| <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|
| My defaulthost just has "myhost", and defaultdomain has "mydomain".
|
|
| My daily run output is sent from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|
|
| gabriel wrote:
|
| | I did actually, it USED to have somedomain.com in a lot of the |
| files but I changed them to the actual domain. Should they be the |
| mail server's host or the domain? | | | On Sun, 20 Feb 2005
| 11:24:15 -0700, Chris Warren | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: |
|
| | I believe this is done in your /var/qmail/control/defaultdomain
| and |  /var/qmail/control/defaulthost files. In fact, check through
| all | the files in the control dir to make sure they are right. | |
| Chris | | gabriel wrote: | | | Ok, well I installed qmail and all
| that jazz through Matt's Mail | | toaster. Everything appeared to
| have been installed without any | | problems, obviously some
| tweaking had to be done to customize the | | installation but
| nothing major. At this point, my only problem | | appears to be the
| from address that its used when sending the daily |  | run output -
| i.e. its sending from [EMAIL PROTECTED] | as | opposed
| to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or at least localhost which would be | just |
| fine. | | Has anyone got any experience with this? I just | need to
| know where | to change that darned from address. I'd hate | to have
| to reinstall | the toaster _again_ :( | | Cheers! |
|
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Re: qmail?

[gabriel]

very cool, I edited the appropiate files and restarted everything. The
problem is then I send the periodic It gets bounced cause it cant find
[EMAIL PROTECTED] *sigh*


On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 11:47:36 -0700, Chris Warren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Hash: SHA1
> 
> My defaulthost just has "myhost", and defaultdomain has "mydomain".
> 
> My daily run output is sent from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> gabriel wrote:
> 
> | I did actually, it USED to have somedomain.com in a lot of the
> | files but I changed them to the actual domain. Should they be the
> | mail server's host or the domain?
> |
> |
> | On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 11:24:15 -0700, Chris Warren
> | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> |
> 
> | I believe this is done in your /var/qmail/control/defaultdomain and
> |  /var/qmail/control/defaulthost files. In fact, check through all
> | the files in the control dir to make sure they are right.
> |
> | Chris
> |
> | gabriel wrote:
> |
> | | Ok, well I installed qmail and all that jazz through Matt's Mail
> | | toaster. Everything appeared to have been installed without any |
> | problems, obviously some tweaking had to be done to customize the |
> | installation but nothing major. At this point, my only problem |
> | appears to be the from address that its used when sending the daily
> |  | run output - i.e. its sending from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> | as | opposed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or at least localhost which would be
> | just | fine. | | Has anyone got any experience with this? I just
> | need to know where | to change that darned from address. I'd hate
> | to have to reinstall | the toaster _again_ :( | | Cheers! |
> 
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Re: qmail?

[Chris Warren]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
My defaulthost just has "myhost", and defaultdomain has "mydomain".
My daily run output is sent from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gabriel wrote:
| I did actually, it USED to have somedomain.com in a lot of the
| files but I changed them to the actual domain. Should they be the
| mail server's host or the domain?
|
|
| On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 11:24:15 -0700, Chris Warren
| <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|
| I believe this is done in your /var/qmail/control/defaultdomain and
|  /var/qmail/control/defaulthost files. In fact, check through all
| the files in the control dir to make sure they are right.
|
| Chris
|
| gabriel wrote:
|
| | Ok, well I installed qmail and all that jazz through Matt's Mail
| | toaster. Everything appeared to have been installed without any |
| problems, obviously some tweaking had to be done to customize the |
| installation but nothing major. At this point, my only problem |
| appears to be the from address that its used when sending the daily
|  | run output - i.e. its sending from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| as | opposed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or at least localhost which would be
| just | fine. | | Has anyone got any experience with this? I just
| need to know where | to change that darned from address. I'd hate
| to have to reinstall | the toaster _again_ :( | | Cheers! |
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Re: qmail?

[gabriel]

I did actually, it USED to have somedomain.com in a lot of the files
but I changed them to the actual domain. Should they be the mail
server's host or the domain?


On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 11:24:15 -0700, Chris Warren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> I believe this is done in your /var/qmail/control/defaultdomain and
> /var/qmail/control/defaulthost files.
> In fact, check through all the files in the control dir to make sure
> they are right.
> 
> Chris
> 
> gabriel wrote:
> 
> | Ok, well I installed qmail and all that jazz through Matt's Mail
> | toaster. Everything appeared to have been installed without any
> | problems, obviously some tweaking had to be done to customize the
> | installation but nothing major. At this point, my only problem
> | appears to be the from address that its used when sending the daily
> | run output - i.e. its sending from [EMAIL PROTECTED] as
> | opposed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or at least localhost which would be just
> | fine.
> |
> | Has anyone got any experience with this? I just need to know where
> | to change that darned from address. I'd hate to have to reinstall
> | the toaster _again_ :(
> |
> | Cheers!
> |
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Re: qmail?

[Chris Warren]

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I believe this is done in your /var/qmail/control/defaultdomain and
/var/qmail/control/defaulthost files.
In fact, check through all the files in the control dir to make sure
they are right.
Chris
gabriel wrote:
| Ok, well I installed qmail and all that jazz through Matt's Mail
| toaster. Everything appeared to have been installed without any
| problems, obviously some tweaking had to be done to customize the
| installation but nothing major. At this point, my only problem
| appears to be the from address that its used when sending the daily
| run output - i.e. its sending from [EMAIL PROTECTED] as
| opposed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or at least localhost which would be just
| fine.
|
| Has anyone got any experience with this? I just need to know where
| to change that darned from address. I'd hate to have to reinstall
| the toaster _again_ :(
|
| Cheers!
|
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Re: qmail - smtp - can NOT send mail out

[Kris Maglione]

james doucette wrote:
 # qmailctl stat
   /service/qmail-send: up (pid 131) 187 seconds
   /service/qmail-send/log: up (pid 137) 187 seconds
   /service/qmail-smtpd: up (pid 33965) 0 seconds
   /service/qmail-smtpd/log: up (pid 138) 187 seconds
   /service/qmail-pop3d: up (pid 136) 187 seconds
   /service/qmail-pop3d/log: up (pid 140) 187 seconds
   messages in queue: 3814
   messages in queue but not yet preprocessed: 3
Ok, i cant seem to make the smtpd get up over 1 second.
I have an smtp listening to port 25. I took it out of the 
/etc/services and made it a #...
This messed up all mail. So i switched it back. Mail works again, but 
why cant i get smtpd to work right? I tried to free up port 25 several 
different ways and nothing worked.
I imagine that both of these issues are connected...

any help is appreciated.
run /service/qmail-smtpd/run and see what happens. Make sure that it's 
set to run in the forground.
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Re: Qmail Problems

[Mike Grissom]

How do I set hard line breaks in outlook express?
It was installed via source.  It seems to die every day or 2.  I have
some ktrace outputs now from qmail-lspawn and qmail-rspawn.  One of
those are the ones that are dying and making qmail-send die.
Here is the outputs (last 50 lines):
qmail-lspawn ktrace output:
23190 qmail-lspawn RET   close 0
23190 qmail-lspawn CALL  fcntl(0x4,0x2,0x1)
23190 qmail-lspawn RET   fcntl 0
23190 qmail-lspawn CALL  sigprocmask(0x2,0xbfbffca0,0)
23190 qmail-lspawn RET   sigprocmask 0
23190 qmail-lspawn CALL  select(0x4,0xbfbffd00,0,0,0)
23190 qmail-lspawn RET   select 1
23190 qmail-lspawn CALL  sigprocmask(0x1,0xbfbffca0,0)
23190 qmail-lspawn RET   sigprocmask 0
23190 qmail-lspawn CALL  read(0x3,0x804d520,0x80)
23190 qmail-lspawn GIO   fd 3 read 10 bytes
  "did 0+0+1
  "
23190 qmail-lspawn RET   read 10/0xa
23190 qmail-lspawn CALL  sigprocmask(0x2,0xbfbffca0,0)
23190 qmail-lspawn RET   sigprocmask 0
23190 qmail-lspawn CALL  select(0x4,0xbfbffd00,0,0,0)
23190 qmail-lspawn PSIG  SIGCHLD caught handler=0x80492a4 mask=0x0
code=0x0
23190 qmail-lspawn RET   select -1 errno 4 Interrupted system call
23190 qmail-lspawn CALL  wait4(0x,0xbfbffb10,0x1,0)
23190 qmail-lspawn RET   wait4 51093/0xc795
23190 qmail-lspawn CALL  close(0x4)
23190 qmail-lspawn RET   close 0
23190 qmail-lspawn CALL  wait4(0x,0xbfbffb10,0x1,0)
23190 qmail-lspawn RET   wait4 -1 errno 10 No child processes
23190 qmail-lspawn CALL  sigreturn(0xbfbffb30)
23190 qmail-lspawn RET   sigreturn JUSTRETURN
23190 qmail-lspawn CALL  sigprocmask(0x1,0xbfbffca0,0)
23190 qmail-lspawn RET   sigprocmask 0
23190 qmail-lspawn CALL  sigprocmask(0x2,0xbfbffca0,0)
23190 qmail-lspawn RET   sigprocmask 0
23190 qmail-lspawn CALL  select(0x4,0xbfbffd00,0,0,0)
23190 qmail-lspawn RET   select 1
23190 qmail-lspawn CALL  sigprocmask(0x1,0xbfbffca0,0)
23190 qmail-lspawn RET   sigprocmask 0
23190 qmail-lspawn CALL  read(0x3,0x804d520,0x80)
23190 qmail-lspawn GIO   fd 3 read 0 bytes
  ""
23190 qmail-lspawn RET   read 0
23190 qmail-lspawn CALL  write(0x1,0x804d9c0,0xe)
23190 qmail-lspawn GIO   fd 1 wrote 14 bytes
  "\0\0Kdid 0+0+1
   \0"
23190 qmail-lspawn RET   write 14/0xe
23190 qmail-lspawn CALL  close(0x3)
23190 qmail-lspawn RET   close 0
23190 qmail-lspawn CALL  sigprocmask(0x2,0xbfbffca0,0)
23190 qmail-lspawn RET   sigprocmask 0
23190 qmail-lspawn CALL  select(0x1,0xbfbffd00,0,0,0)
23190 qmail-lspawn PSIG  SIGHUP SIG_DFL
qmail-rspawn ktrace output:
23191 qmail-rspawn CALL  read(0x3,0x804c720,0x80)
23191 qmail-rspawn GIO   fd 3 read 67 bytes
  "r\0K67.28.113.10 accepted message.
   Remote host said: 250 ok dirdel
   \000"
23191 qmail-rspawn RET   read 67/0x43
23191 qmail-rspawn CALL  sigprocmask(0x2,0xbfbffcb0,0)
23191 qmail-rspawn RET   sigprocmask 0
23191 qmail-rspawn CALL  select(0x4,0xbfbffd10,0,0,0)
23191 qmail-rspawn PSIG  SIGCHLD caught handler=0x8048c20 mask=0x0
code=0x0
23191 qmail-rspawn RET   select -1 errno 4 Interrupted system call
23191 qmail-rspawn CALL  wait4(0x,0xbfbffb20,0x1,0)
23191 qmail-rspawn RET   wait4 46703/0xb66f
23191 qmail-rspawn CALL  close(0x4)
23191 qmail-rspawn RET   close 0
23191 qmail-rspawn CALL  wait4(0x,0xbfbffb20,0x1,0)
23191 qmail-rspawn RET   wait4 -1 errno 10 No child processes
23191 qmail-rspawn CALL  sigreturn(0xbfbffb40)
23191 qmail-rspawn RET   sigreturn JUSTRETURN
23191 qmail-rspawn CALL  sigprocmask(0x1,0xbfbffcb0,0)
23191 qmail-rspawn RET   sigprocmask 0
23191 qmail-rspawn CALL  sigprocmask(0x2,0xbfbffcb0,0)
23191 qmail-rspawn RET   sigprocmask 0
23191 qmail-rspawn CALL  select(0x4,0xbfbffd10,0,0,0)
23191 qmail-rspawn RET   select 1
23191 qmail-rspawn CALL  sigprocmask(0x1,0xbfbffcb0,0)
23191 qmail-rspawn RET   sigprocmask 0
23191 qmail-rspawn CALL  read(0x3,0x804c720,0x80)
23191 qmail-rspawn GIO   fd 3 read 0 bytes
  ""
23191 qmail-rspawn RET   read 0
23191 qmail-rspawn CALL  write(0x1,0x804cbc0,0x43)
23191 qmail-rspawn GIO   fd 1 wrote 67 bytes
  "\0\0K67.28.113.10 accepted message.
   Remote host said: 250 ok dirdel
   \000"
23191 qmail-rspawn RET   write 67/0x43
23191 qmail-rspawn CALL  close(0x3)
23191 qmail-rspawn RET   close 0
23191 qmail-rspawn CALL  sigprocmask(0x2,0xbfbffcb0,0)
23191 qmail-rspawn RET   sigprocmask 0
23191 qmail-rspawn CALL  select(0x1,0xbfbffd10,0,0,0)
23191 qmail-rspawn RET   select 1
23191 qmail-rspawn CALL  sigprocmask(0x1,0xbfbffcb0,0)
23191 qmail-rspawn RET   sigprocmask 0
23191 qmail-rspawn CALL  read(0,0x804c7a0,0x400)
23191 qmail-rspawn GIO   fd 0 read 0 bytes
  ""
23191 qmail-rspawn RET   read 0
23191 qmail-rspawn CALL  exit(0)
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From: "Tabor Kelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mike Grissom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: Qmail Problems


Mike Grissom wrote:
I have been havin

Re: Qmail Problems

[Tabor Kelly]

Tabor Kelly wrote:

In addition to everything Mike Grissom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said
Sorry, I meant Giorgos Keramidas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.

-Tabor Kelly
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Re: Qmail Problems

[Tabor Kelly]

Mike Grissom wrote:
I have been having a problem with qmail-send dying for a while now. In the log file
> it says that "alert: oh no! lost spawn connection" which leads me to
> believe the problem is with the qmail-lspawn or qmail-rspawn.  I have
> FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE #0: Thu Nov 11 17:21:04 EST 2004 installed on the
> box.  Any ideas what could be causing this?  Or how to fix this
> problem?

In addition to everything Mike Grissom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said, please 
tell us if you installed qmail from ports or directly from the source 
tarball on cr.yp.to?

Also, how often does it die? Can you reproduce the bug on demand?
-Tabor Kelly
PS- please configure your email client to use hard line breaks after 70 
characters (70 characters per line).
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Re: Qmail Problems

[Giorgos Keramidas]

On 2004-12-13 14:53, Mike Grissom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mike Grissom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have been having a problem with qmail-send dying for a while now.
> > In the log file it says that "alert: oh no! lost spawn connection"
> > which leads me to believe the problem is with the qmail-lspawn or
> > qmail-rspawn.  I have FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE #0: Thu Nov 11 17:21:04
> > EST 2004 installed on the box.  Any ideas what could be causing
> > this?  Or how to fix this problem?
>
> Anyone have an insights to this problem?

Please don't top-post.  I've fixed your post this time, but I don't feel
like doing it for any future posts.

Regarding qmail now: It would help if you posted more details about your
setup or even the log messages in their entirety.

A quick search at google reveals that qmail people think this message
signifies an OS bug:

http://www.bsw.dk/qmail-archive/1998/msg00221.html

You may also find the following web pages of interest:

http://www.faqts.com/knowledge_base/view.phtml/aid/1749
http://citadelle.intrinsec.com/mailing/current/HTML/ml_qmail/8150.html
https://citadelle.intrinsec.com/mailing/current/HTML/ml_qmail/25931.html

HTH,
Giorgos

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Re: Qmail Problems

[Mike Grissom]

Anyone have an insights to this problem?
- Original Message - 
From: "Mike Grissom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 2:59 PM
Subject: Qmail Problems

I have been having a problem with qmail-send dying for a while now.  In the
log file it says that "alert: oh no! lost spawn connection" which leads me
to believe the problem is with the qmail-lspawn or qmail-rspawn.  I have
FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE #0: Thu Nov 11 17:21:04 EST 2004 installed on the box.
Any ideas what could be causing this?  Or how to fix this problem?

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Re: qmail

[Erik Norgaard]

dextermetall wrote:

> How can i configure dns for useing qmail?

There is nothing particularly different for qmail than for any other
MTA. You need to set the MX records for your mail server with a priority
number. The priority number is only important if you have multiple servers.

If you have set your MX records correctly, please provide a more
detailed description of your problem.

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Re: .qmail, autorespond config for naive end-users

[Peter Risdon]

Eric Heintzberger wrote:
Thanks for the tip. My impression was that qmailadmin is intended for a 
certain kind of virtual domain setup, and designed so that the 
administrator of each domain would have a GUI admin console, not 
necessarily the end-users. But maybe it could work in my case as well.
That's true, but you only get the overall setup stuff if you log in as 
postmaster. If you log in as an already set up user, you get stuff that 
pertains to you.

Peter.
Peter Risdon wrote:
Eric Heintzberger wrote:
Hello everyone!
I run qmail, courier-imap, and FreeBSD as a mail server for a small 
business network. Most of the end-users have no familiarity with 
UNIX, and so training them to SSH into the mail server and uncomment 
the autoresponder line in their .qmail configuration file &c. is a 
bit tedious and probably unnecessary.

Would anyone have any suggestions about a GUI interface (perhaps a 
java applet or php app), or some other way to enable end-users to 
modify, in a simple and straightfoward manner, their .qmail 
configuration files and autorespond messages on the mail server?

/usr/ports/mail/qmailadmin
 - a web admin thingie written in C by the people behind courier.
Peter.

Thanks in advance.
- Eric
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Re: .qmail, autorespond config for naive end-users

[Eric Heintzberger]

Thanks for the tip. My impression was that qmailadmin is 
intended for a certain kind of virtual domain setup, and 
designed so that the administrator of each domain would have a 
GUI admin console, not necessarily the end-users. But maybe it 
could work in my case as well.

Peter Risdon wrote:
Eric Heintzberger wrote:
Hello everyone!
I run qmail, courier-imap, and FreeBSD as a mail server for a small 
business network. Most of the end-users have no familiarity with UNIX, 
and so training them to SSH into the mail server and uncomment the 
autoresponder line in their .qmail configuration file &c. is a bit 
tedious and probably unnecessary.

Would anyone have any suggestions about a GUI interface (perhaps a 
java applet or php app), or some other way to enable end-users to 
modify, in a simple and straightfoward manner, their .qmail 
configuration files and autorespond messages on the mail server?

/usr/ports/mail/qmailadmin
 - a web admin thingie written in C by the people behind courier.
Peter.

Thanks in advance.
- Eric
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Re: .qmail, autorespond config for naive end-users

[Peter Risdon]

Eric Heintzberger wrote:
Hello everyone!
I run qmail, courier-imap, and FreeBSD as a mail server for a small 
business network. Most of the end-users have no familiarity with UNIX, 
and so training them to SSH into the mail server and uncomment the 
autoresponder line in their .qmail configuration file &c. is a bit 
tedious and probably unnecessary.

Would anyone have any suggestions about a GUI interface (perhaps a java 
applet or php app), or some other way to enable end-users to modify, in 
a simple and straightfoward manner, their .qmail configuration files and 
autorespond messages on the mail server?
/usr/ports/mail/qmailadmin
 - a web admin thingie written in C by the people behind courier.
Peter.

Thanks in advance.
- Eric
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Re: qmail-scanner.pl and perl 5.8?

[Steve Ireland]

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Subject: qmail-scanner.pl and perl 5.8?



> if I look in /usr/bin I see:
>
> lrwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel23 Nov  6 11:49 suidperl ->
> /usr/local/bin/suidperl
>
> if I do a ls -l /usr/local/bin | grep suidperl I get nothing.  So the
> SymLink is pointing to nothing?
>
> I did:
> cd /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8
> make install clean
> use.perl port
>
> Should I not use perl 5.8?  did they remove the suidperl in 5.8?  If
you
> are wondering yes I cvsup my ports to the current.


Did you uncomment "ENABLE_SUIDPERL=   true" in your make.conf?


Regards,

Steve

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Re: qmail revisited

[Peter Schuller]

> Mar  3 09:30:34 patriot qmail: 1078327834.990817 delivery 600: deferral:
> Unable_
> to_chdir_to_maildir._(#4.2.1)/

It can't access the maildir. Off the top of my head, check at least:

* Is the entry in the .mail file correct? Don't forget the extra dot if you 
have opted for a name beginning with a dot - it's easy to type "./Maildir/" 
instead of "./.Maildir/" by accident.

* Does the maildir itself have the correct permissions? When creating maildirs 
with maildirmake, make sure to run it as the user who is to own the mailbox 
(and not as root for example). qmail delivers mail as the user who owns the 
mailbox, so it has to be able to access it. *AND*, permissions may not be too 
wide wither, or qmail will refuse to deliver mail for security reasons (this 
is true for at least the .qmail files; not sure about the maildir).

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Re: qmail revisited

[Rob McQuillen]

On Wednesday 03 March 2004 09:41 am, Brian H wrote:
> sorry for bringing up qmail again.

It's OT on freebsd-questions, so I'm replying privately...

> I am able to get my mail sent to my user account henninb, but i can't
> get mail for root or postmaaster.

Have you read www.lifewithqmail.org?

> I am trying to use qmail with the Maildir protocol.

Maildir is not a protocol, but a different mail storage format (others 
are mbox and /var/spool/mail).

> I read in the documentation that no mail can be sent to the root
> account, but I thought it said you could have it sent there if you
> like. On thing i noticed on my user account is that my ~/.qmail and
> ~alias/qmail-henninb
> file don't do anything either because when I remove them the mail
> still gets delivered to
> my Maildir.

You can *send* mail to root, but it won't be delivered unless you 
arrange for an unprivileged user to pick it up. See below.

> how can i get my ~/.qmail or ~alias/qmail-root file working for root
> and postmaster?

$ echo henninb > /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-root
$ echo henninb > /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-postmaster

should suffice for you. You can safely remove henninb's $HOME/.qmail 
file- if it doesn't exist, mail is delivered to your Maildir (or 
whatever argument to qmail-start is in your startup scripts).

hth,
RTM
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RE: qmail logs

[Remko Lodder]

Hi,

First note that this is a Qmail specific question, in no way related to
freebsd.

Secondly:

checkout the startup scripts from Qmail, probably /var/qmail/rc or something
like that
if there is splogger qmail, it clearly states you then that it logs to
syslog.
else if you use daemontools, checkout the
/var/qmail/supervice/qmail-smtpd/log/run file
to see where the logging is defined.

This worked for me while i _had_ qmail, dont have it any more so need to
work from head.

HTH,

--

Kind regards,

Remko Lodder
Elvandar.org/DSINet.org
www.mostly-harmless.nl Dutch community for helping newcomers on the
hackerscene

mrtg.grunn.org Dutch mirror of MRTG

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Verzonden: maandag 1 maart 2004 19:46
Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Onderwerp: qmail logs


Greetings:

I don't think i have logging enabled for qmail. I have looked in the
/var/qmail/
diretory, but i don't see any log files. Could someone tell me where to look
or
how to turn logging on?

thanks,

brian
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RE: qmail error

[Henning, Brian]

Chuck,
This is what I have.

~/.qmail

./Maildir/

drw-r--r--  6 root  wheel  512 Mar  1 13:01 /root/Maildir

This is how I send the email.
echo to: root | /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject

Thanks,

brian
 

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Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 3:48 PM
To: Brian Henning; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: qmail error


The protections are wrong on the mail directory. Qmail is very picky
about 
those. I believe they have to be 600 or 644. See the install docs for 
details.

Alternatively the Maildir might not exist, what is in the .qmail file of
that 
user?

--Chuck

On Monday 01 March 2004 11:58, Brian Henning wrote:
> Greetings:
>
> I get the following error in my mailog:
> > /usr/local/qmailanalog/bin/matchup < /var/log/maillog
>
> #deferral: Unable_to_chdir_to_maildir._(#4.2.1)/
>
> Any thougts on howto resolve this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brian
>
> > /var/qmail/bin/qmail-showctl
>
> qmail home directory: /var/qmail.
> user-ext delimiter: -.
> paternalism (in decimal): 2.
> silent concurrency limit: 120.
> subdirectory split: 23.
> user ids: 81, 82, 83, 0, 84, 85, 86, 87.
> group ids: 81, 82.
>
> badmailfrom: (Default.) Any MAIL FROM is allowed.
>
> bouncefrom: (Default.) Bounce user name is MAILER-DAEMON.
>
> bouncehost: (Default.) Bounce host name is patriot.lotr.com.
>
> concurrencylocal: (Default.) Local concurrency is 10.
>
> concurrencyremote: (Default.) Remote concurrency is 20.
>
> databytes: (Default.) SMTP DATA limit is 0 bytes.
>
> defaultdomain: Default domain name is lotr.com.
>
> defaulthost: (Default.) Default host name is patriot.lotr.com.
>
> doublebouncehost: (Default.) 2B recipient host: patriot.lotr.com.
>
> doublebounceto: (Default.) 2B recipient user: postmaster.
>
> envnoathost: (Default.) Presumed domain name is patriot.lotr.com.
>
> helohost: (Default.) SMTP client HELO host name is patriot.lotr.com.
>
> idhost: (Default.) Message-ID host name is patriot.lotr.com.
>
> localiphost: (Default.) Local IP address becomes patriot.lotr.com.
>
> locals:
> Messages for patriot.lotr.com are delivered locally.
>
> me: My name is patriot.lotr.com.
>
> percenthack: (Default.) The percent hack is not allowed.
>
> plusdomain: Plus domain name is lotr.com.
>
> qmqpservers: (Default.) No QMQP servers.
>
> queuelifetime: (Default.) Message lifetime in the queue is 604800 
> seconds.
>
> rcpthosts:
> SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at patriot.lotr.com.
>
> morercpthosts: (Default.) No effect.
>
> morercpthosts.cdb: (Default.) No effect.
>
> smtpgreeting: (Default.) SMTP greeting: 220 patriot.lotr.com.
>
> smtproutes: (Default.) No artificial SMTP routes.
>
> timeoutconnect: (Default.) SMTP client connection timeout is 60 
> seconds.
>
> timeoutremote: (Default.) SMTP client data timeout is 1200 seconds.
>
> timeoutsmtpd: (Default.) SMTP server data timeout is 1200 seconds.
>
> virtualdomains: (Default.) No virtual domains.
>
> defaultdelivery: I have no idea what this file does. 
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Re: qmail error

[Charles McManis]

The protections are wrong on the mail directory. Qmail is very picky about 
those. I believe they have to be 600 or 644. See the install docs for 
details.

Alternatively the Maildir might not exist, what is in the .qmail file of that 
user?

--Chuck

On Monday 01 March 2004 11:58, Brian Henning wrote:
> Greetings:
>
> I get the following error in my mailog:
> > /usr/local/qmailanalog/bin/matchup < /var/log/maillog
>
> #deferral: Unable_to_chdir_to_maildir._(#4.2.1)/
>
> Any thougts on howto resolve this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brian
>
> > /var/qmail/bin/qmail-showctl
>
> qmail home directory: /var/qmail.
> user-ext delimiter: -.
> paternalism (in decimal): 2.
> silent concurrency limit: 120.
> subdirectory split: 23.
> user ids: 81, 82, 83, 0, 84, 85, 86, 87.
> group ids: 81, 82.
>
> badmailfrom: (Default.) Any MAIL FROM is allowed.
>
> bouncefrom: (Default.) Bounce user name is MAILER-DAEMON.
>
> bouncehost: (Default.) Bounce host name is patriot.lotr.com.
>
> concurrencylocal: (Default.) Local concurrency is 10.
>
> concurrencyremote: (Default.) Remote concurrency is 20.
>
> databytes: (Default.) SMTP DATA limit is 0 bytes.
>
> defaultdomain: Default domain name is lotr.com.
>
> defaulthost: (Default.) Default host name is patriot.lotr.com.
>
> doublebouncehost: (Default.) 2B recipient host: patriot.lotr.com.
>
> doublebounceto: (Default.) 2B recipient user: postmaster.
>
> envnoathost: (Default.) Presumed domain name is patriot.lotr.com.
>
> helohost: (Default.) SMTP client HELO host name is patriot.lotr.com.
>
> idhost: (Default.) Message-ID host name is patriot.lotr.com.
>
> localiphost: (Default.) Local IP address becomes patriot.lotr.com.
>
> locals:
> Messages for patriot.lotr.com are delivered locally.
>
> me: My name is patriot.lotr.com.
>
> percenthack: (Default.) The percent hack is not allowed.
>
> plusdomain: Plus domain name is lotr.com.
>
> qmqpservers: (Default.) No QMQP servers.
>
> queuelifetime: (Default.) Message lifetime in the queue is 604800 seconds.
>
> rcpthosts:
> SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at patriot.lotr.com.
>
> morercpthosts: (Default.) No effect.
>
> morercpthosts.cdb: (Default.) No effect.
>
> smtpgreeting: (Default.) SMTP greeting: 220 patriot.lotr.com.
>
> smtproutes: (Default.) No artificial SMTP routes.
>
> timeoutconnect: (Default.) SMTP client connection timeout is 60 seconds.
>
> timeoutremote: (Default.) SMTP client data timeout is 1200 seconds.
>
> timeoutsmtpd: (Default.) SMTP server data timeout is 1200 seconds.
>
> virtualdomains: (Default.) No virtual domains.
>
> defaultdelivery: I have no idea what this file does.
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RE: qmail patches...

[Derrick Ryalls]

> 
> Hi,
>   I have followed the install from freebsd.qmailrocks.org, 
> and everything appears to be going OK, I'm almost done with 
> the guy's walk-thru...but I found something of interest on 
> the qmail.org website - patches to do smtp-auth so I can have 
> my clients be able to 'roam' while being able to send email 
> through my SMTP gateway out.  There are a bunch of links 
> there to "patches", for SMTP-AUTH...but I have very little 
> idea about how to implement them?
>   Can someone who's done it before throw me a clue?
> 
> Here's what I'd like to get working: 
> http://students.imsa.edu/~ngroot/qmail-1.03-starttls-smtp-auth
.patch
Is there something better?

I was thinking about using that very patch, just haven't gotten around to
trying it out.  So, if you are gunna try this out, do not use a live system
for testing.


As per the instructions included within the patch:

+How to install it:
+
+Simply patch your qmail-1.03 distribution with the included patch
+file and recompile & install like usual.
+
+The steps to do this are as follows (assuming your virgin
+qmail-1.03 install is in "../qmail-1.03"):
+
+  cp README.auth base64.c base64.h ../qmail-1.03
+  patch -d ../qmail-1.03 < auth.patch
+
+Install qmail normally, with the exception of the new arguments
+to qmail-smtpd described elsewhere in this file.
+
+Also obtain, unpack, compile and install the cmd5checkpw utility
+(or some other checkpassword utility) and add a sample account to
+/etc/poppasswd file.  This file must be readable by the qmail-smtpd
+user, usually qmaild.

So, I am guessing that means you do this:

#cd /usr/ports/mail/qmail
#make patch
#cd work/qmail-1.03
#fetch http://students.imsa.edu/~ngroot/qmail-1.03-starttls-smtp-auth.patch
#patch -d ../qmail-1.03 < qmail-1.03-starttls-smtp-auth.patch
#cd /usr/ports/mail/qmail
(make sure qmail is not running)
#make install

After that you will need to modify /var/qmail/rc to accommodate the
qmail-smtpd startup changes.  Please let us (or atleast me) know how it
works.  I am interested in doing this as well as soon as I have some free
time.

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Re: QMail? - additional thoughts

[David Benfell]

On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 23:57:16 -0500, Brian McCann wrote:
> I don't know what you mean by "speaking SMTP".  If you are referring to
> sending the correct SMTP "commands" to tell it HELO/OLEH or whatever, I
> don't even get that far.  It literally connects, then right away
> disconnects...I don't even get the usual SMTP banner.  I'm going to
> check out that link though, thanks!
> 
Why not install it from the port?  The port gets a lot of little
details right that are specific to FreeBSD.

-- 
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RE: QMail? - additional thoughts

[Gary]

Hi Brian,

--On Sunday, February 08, 2004 11:57:16 PM -0500 Brian McCann 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I don't know what you mean by "speaking SMTP".  If you are referring to
sending the correct SMTP "commands" to tell it HELO/OLEH or whatever, I
don't even get that far.  It literally connects, then right away
disconnects...I don't even get the usual SMTP banner.  I'm going to
check out that link though, thanks!
Sorry Brian, getting tired.

Here is the correct telnet connection... Missed a part..

To test your SMTP server.. with telnet..

telnet 127.0.0.1 25  (or your machine IP address)

response   trying 127...
 connecting
Escape char...
you type  helo homer

response 250 domain

you type   mail from:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

response 250 ok

you type  rcpt to:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

response 250 ok

you type   data

response 354 go ahead

you type   Subject : a test

you type   this is a test.

you type . <-- (that's a period)

response 250 okay ...

you type  quit

response 221 domain ..

response connection closed by foreign host

Now, if you get an error on the telnet commands, such as "Unable to connect 
to remote host: Connection refused"

if you get this... your SMTP service is not properly configured.

--
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RE: QMail? - additional thoughts

[Gary]

Hi Brian,

--On Sunday, February 08, 2004 11:57:16 PM -0500 Brian McCann 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 don't know what you mean by "speaking SMTP".  If you are referring to
sending the correct SMTP "commands" to tell it HELO/OLEH or whatever, I
don't even get that far.  It literally connects, then right away
disconnects...I don't even get the usual SMTP banner.  I'm going to
check out that link though, thanks!
Yes, this is what I was referring to ...



well, you can do a few things.

To see if you can send mail to yourself..

echo to: username |/var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject

you should have a test email in your mailbox.

To test your SMTP server.. with telnet..

telnet 127.0.0.1 25

response   trying 127...
 connecting
Escape char...
you type  helo homer

response 250 domain

you type   mail from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

response 250 ok

you type   data

response 354 go ahead

you type   Subject : a test

you type   this is a test

response 250 okay ...

you type  quit

response 221 domain ..

response connection closed by foreign host

Now, if you get an error on the telnet commands, such as "Unable to connect 
to remote host: Connection refused"

if you get this... your SMTP service is not properly configured.

--
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RE: QMail?

[Gary]

Hi Brian,

--On Monday, February 09, 2004 12:05:04 AM -0500 Brian McCann 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

/service/*/log"...which I expected since there are no files in /service
since it does not exist.  From the output I sent you I would assume it's
running correctly, but when I do a "ps -ax | grep smtpd", I get: 47858
p1- I  0:00.03 supervise smtpd.  I'm assuming something did not get
linked correctly...the whole daemontools thing is very new to me.  I
think I may just rollback everything I've done so far and start
over...just a waste of time, but at least I may understand it better
using that site you sent me.
Under your existing setup, you would run

svstat /var/service/*  to get a run listing of what's running and how long 
they have been up.

Probably a good idea to roll back, as you can be sure and trust the 
lifewithqmail.org site...

--
Gary
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RE: QMail?

[Brian McCann]

When I run that, I get "zsh: no matches found:
/service/*/log"...which I expected since there are no files in /service
since it does not exist.  From the output I sent you I would assume it's
running correctly, but when I do a "ps -ax | grep smtpd", I get: 47858
p1- I  0:00.03 supervise smtpd.  I'm assuming something did not get
linked correctly...the whole daemontools thing is very new to me.  I
think I may just rollback everything I've done so far and start
over...just a waste of time, but at least I may understand it better
using that site you sent me.

Thanks,
--Brian

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Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 11:49 PM
To: 'FreeBSD'
Subject: RE: QMail?


Hi Brian,

--On Sunday, February 08, 2004 11:42:07 PM -0500 Brian McCann 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ok...sendmail isn't running...and below is the result of "svstat 
> /var/service/*/log"...it's under /var since that's where the tutorial 
> said to put it...before I really knew what I was doing.

That's the first mistake, not putting it under /service, but you may be 
able to get away with it...

> /var/service/pop3d/log: up (pid 47863) 533524 seconds
> /var/service/qmail/log: up (pid 47867) 533524 seconds
> /var/service/smtpd/log: up (pid 47865) 533524 seconds

You missed the more important item I mentioned..  svstat /service/* as
below

> What is the output of svstat /service/*  and
> svstat /service/*/log

I need to see if SMTP, etc are running properly...


-- 
Gary


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RE: QMail? - additional thoughts

[Brian McCann]

I don't know what you mean by "speaking SMTP".  If you are referring to
sending the correct SMTP "commands" to tell it HELO/OLEH or whatever, I
don't even get that far.  It literally connects, then right away
disconnects...I don't even get the usual SMTP banner.  I'm going to
check out that link though, thanks!

--Brian

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Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 11:36 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: QMail? - additional thoughts


Hi Brian,

--On Sunday, February 08, 2004 11:11:58 PM -0500 Brian McCann 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi all.  I'm trying to setup Qmail on one of my systems.  Being a 
> former user of Sendmail, I decided to try to find a HOWTO or something

> to get me started.

It just occurred to me, are you speaking SMTP when you telnet into port
25?

Also, for a complete comprehensive guide to qmail, go to the qmail
"Bible" 
at  www.lifewithqmail.org

This not only shows you how to install from source, but gives a complete

understanding of how it works, scripts, etc...

-- 
Gary
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RE: QMail?

[Gary]

Hi Brian,

--On Sunday, February 08, 2004 11:42:07 PM -0500 Brian McCann 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Ok...sendmail isn't running...and below is the result of "svstat
/var/service/*/log"...it's under /var since that's where the tutorial
said to put it...before I really knew what I was doing.
That's the first mistake, not putting it under /service, but you may be 
able to get away with it...

/var/service/pop3d/log: up (pid 47863) 533524 seconds
/var/service/qmail/log: up (pid 47867) 533524 seconds
/var/service/smtpd/log: up (pid 47865) 533524 seconds
You missed the more important item I mentioned..  svstat /service/* as below

What is the output of svstat /service/*  and
svstat /service/*/log
I need to see if SMTP, etc are running properly...

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RE: QMail?

[Brian McCann]

Ok...sendmail isn't running...and below is the result of "svstat
/var/service/*/log"...it's under /var since that's where the tutorial
said to put it...before I really knew what I was doing.

/var/service/pop3d/log: up (pid 47863) 533524 seconds
/var/service/qmail/log: up (pid 47867) 533524 seconds
/var/service/smtpd/log: up (pid 47865) 533524 seconds

--Brian

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Hi Brian,

--On Sunday, February 08, 2004 11:11:58 PM -0500 Brian McCann 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi all.  I'm trying to setup Qmail on one of my systems.  Being a 
> former user of Sendmail, I decided to try to find a HOWTO or something

> to get me started.  So, I found this one...

> http://stevenfettig.com/mythoughts/archives/90.php.  It looked to 
> be fairly through, so I tried it.  From what I can tell, I configured 
> everything correctly, but something is wrong.  I can see the processes

> running, and netstat shows that something is listening on port 25, but

> when I try to telnet to that port, I get disconnected immediately.  
> Can someone offer a clue as to what is going on?  I'd be willing to 
> talk to someone off list if someone is willing as well.

Did you stop the sendmail process? It could be taking over SMTP on 25
and 
qmail cannot run...

What is the output of svstat /service/*  and
svstat /service/*/log

You will need to do this as root.

Please respond to list only, thanks... I'll get it from there.

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Re: QMail? - additional thoughts

[Gary]

Hi Brian,

--On Sunday, February 08, 2004 11:11:58 PM -0500 Brian McCann 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi all.  I'm trying to setup Qmail on one of my systems.  Being a former
user of Sendmail, I decided to try to find a HOWTO or something to get
me started.
It just occurred to me, are you speaking SMTP when you telnet into port 25?

Also, for a complete comprehensive guide to qmail, go to the qmail "Bible" 
at  www.lifewithqmail.org

This not only shows you how to install from source, but gives a complete 
understanding of how it works, scripts, etc...

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Re: QMail?

[Gary]

Hi Brian,

--On Sunday, February 08, 2004 11:11:58 PM -0500 Brian McCann 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi all.  I'm trying to setup Qmail on one of my systems.  Being a former
user of Sendmail, I decided to try to find a HOWTO or something to get
me started.  So, I found this one...

http://stevenfettig.com/mythoughts/archives/90.php.  It looked to be
fairly through, so I tried it.  From what I can tell, I configured
everything correctly, but something is wrong.  I can see the processes
running, and netstat shows that something is listening on port 25, but
when I try to telnet to that port, I get disconnected immediately.  Can
someone offer a clue as to what is going on?  I'd be willing to talk to
someone off list if someone is willing as well.
Did you stop the sendmail process? It could be taking over SMTP on 25 and 
qmail cannot run...

What is the output of svstat /service/*  and
svstat /service/*/log
You will need to do this as root.

Please respond to list only, thanks... I'll get it from there.

--
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Re: qmail scanner from localhost

[frankie-freebsd]

On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 12:06:51PM +0100, Michael Sig Birkmose wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I just recently installed qmail + qmail scaner + clamav + fprot and it all
> works fine.
> 
> However when I attempt to send myself a test email from the machine
> running the services, using pine, this mail does not pass through qmail
> scanner?
> 
> Here is my /etc/tcp.smtp:
> bash-2.05b# cat /etc/tcp.smtp
> 127.0.0.1:allow,RELAYCLIENT="",QMAILQUEUE="/var/qmail/bin/qmail-scanner-queue.pl"
> 192.168.1.:allow,RELAYCLIENT="",QMAILQUEUE="/var/qmail/bin/qmail-scanner-queue.pl"
> 62.242.118.225:allow,RELAYCLIENT="",QMAILQUEUE="/var/qmail/bin/qmail-scanner-queue.pl"
> :allow,QMAILQUEUE="/var/qmail/bin/qmail-scanner-queue.pl"
> 
> When I send to myself using pine i get this header in the email:
> 
> Received: from localhost ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> 
> When I get from outside I get:
> 
> Received: from [EMAIL PROTECTED] by gisp.dk by uid 82 with
> qmail-scanner-1.20
>  (clamuko: 0.54. f-prot: 4.2.0/3.14.7. spamassassin: 2.60.
> Clear:RC:1(127.0.0.1):.
>  Processed in 0.010936 secs); 13 Dec 2003 10:57:27 -
Pine should send mail using /usr/sbin/sendmail (which should be a link
to /var/qmail/bin/sendmail), which calls /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject,
which calls /var/qmail/bin/qmail-queue, which explains the absence of
qmail-scanner headers, but not the [EMAIL PROTECTED]'' part.

Does the message have any qmail headers? If not, you are probably using
/usr/sbin/sendmail from real sendmail (not the qmail one), which passes
the mail to sendmail submission process running on the port 587/tcp.
The message is then delivered by sendmail.
If this is the case, you should disable sendmail by
chmod 0 /usr/libexec/sendmail/sendmail
and create the symlink
ln -sf /var/qmail/bin/sendmail /usr/sbin/sendmail
.


Or maybe I'm wrong. (I certainly am wrong if you  are not using mbox
delivery to the same place, where sendmail would deliver the mail).
m&f

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Re: QMail installation trouble

[Gary]

Hi Roland,

On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 19:04:46 +0200 UTC (11/26/2003, 11:04 AM -0600 UTC my
time), Roland Giesler wrote:

R> I'm installing qmail using the qmailrocks instructions and get the
R> following:

R> I have seen the warning that the "run" scripts are the place where most
R> error occur, but need some help determining exactly what the error below
R> means.  The files mentioned below do exist!  So which files are being
R> refered to as non-existent?

Do yourself a big favor, and remove all that " qmailrocks stuff" This is
not deemed to be an official site, but just some guys "interpretation."

Install qmail according to www.lifewithqmail.org step by step and it will
just work. You even can copy the scripts right from the site (as long as
you are not in windows).

In the process, you will begin to understand how it works.

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When the going gets tough, the tough take a coffee break.

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Re: qmail: mbox to maildir preserving time stamps.

[Gary]

Hello Micheas,

On Saturday, October 4, 2003, 12:54:13 AM, you hammered out:

M> I have about 100 mboxes that I need to convert in to maildirs.
M> I REALLY want the timestamp of the files in the maildir to match the
M> timestamps inside the emails.

M> Does anyone have a suggestion?

There are several converters on www.qmail.org  specifically here

 http://qmail.cdsinet.net/top.html#maildir

 I don't know if they keep the same timestamps, but I don't see why not.
 You can always make a test of one.

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Re: qmail: mbox to maildir preserving time stamps.

[Micheas Herman]

On Sat, 2003-10-04 at 17:13, Gary wrote:
> Hello Micheas,
> 
> On Saturday, October 4, 2003, 12:54:13 AM, you hammered out:
> 
> M> I have about 100 mboxes that I need to convert in to maildirs.
> M> I REALLY want the timestamp of the files in the maildir to match the
> M> timestamps inside the emails.
> 
> M> Does anyone have a suggestion?
> 
> There are several converters on www.qmail.org  specifically here
> 
>  http://qmail.cdsinet.net/top.html#maildir
> 
>  I don't know if they keep the same timestamps, but I don't see why not.
>  You can always make a test of one.

I found one that works. mb2md  The others I tried don't backdate
the timestamp of the files they are creating.
mb2md is not perfect. it sets the date to when the files was
sent not the time form the last mailserver, but it is better
than 40,000 messages with the approximately the same time.


Micheas

> 
> --
> Best regards,
> Gary
> 
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Re: Qmail

[Lowell Gilbert]

"jaap" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi there i make clean install freebsd may be some can give me some links or wher can 
> i get manuals in default freebsd have sandmail!

The port itself gave you some instructions when you installed it.  
See the pkg-message in the port's directory if you forgot what it
said.  Also, the port installs its documentation files to (apparently)
/usr/local/share/doc/qmail.  
The home page for qmail is at http://www.qmail.org/
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Re: qmail-qfilter

[Frank Tegtmeyer]

Alin-Adrian Anton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Otherwise, mail works fine. With qfilter, only forwarding is not
> working, everything else works. Without qfilter, everything including
> forwarding works.

Try to unset the QMAILQUEUE environment variable when forwarding and
see if this helps. This also avoids double processing of the filter for
one message.

Regards, Frank
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Re: Qmail Help

[Kliment Andreev]

> Does anyone know any good tutorials sites for qmail and vpopmail? im
trying
> to set up a mail server for multiple domains.

http://www.tigertimes.net/vpopmail/Qmail-FreeBSD.txt

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Re: Qmail Help

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(B> Does anyone know any good tutorials sites for qmail and vpopmail? im
(Btrying
(B> to set up a mail server for multiple domains.
(B>
(B> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
(B>
(B> Thanks,
(B>
(B> Cliff
(B
(Bhttp://www.tnpi.biz/internet/mail/toaster/
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(Bis very good as is
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(Bhttp://www.lifewithqmail.org/lwq.html
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Re: Qmail Help

[Adrian Pircalabu]

Hi there, you can try:

http://www.tnpi.biz/internet/mail/toaster/

On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 08:59:47 -0400
Cliff Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Does anyone know any good tutorials sites for qmail and vpopmail? im trying 
> to set up a mail server for multiple domains.
> 
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Cliff
> =
> Cliff Sullivan - TSR 2
> 24hr Technical Support
> CoreComm - East Lansing, MI
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Re: qmail +smtp authentication ?

[Derrick Ryalls]

On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 10:06, Darryl Hoar wrote:
> Greetings,
> I want to setup a personal email server for my domain
> on my frebsd 4.7S box.  I've heard great things about
> qmail.  This lead me to wonder about smtp authentication
> with qmail as I think that would eliminate the open relay
> problem.
> 
> is smtp authentication possible with qmail ?
> 

http://www.cuni.cz/~vhor/qmail/smtpauth-en.html

This is what I used to get it working.  It works just fine for the most
part using login auth.  The only problem I have it that on each email
that is sent, qmail-smtpd exits abnormally.  Nothing is destabilized,
but if you ever figure it out, send me a line (if you use this).

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