Re: mozilla and courier-imap

2004-08-15 Thread Uwe Laverenz
On Sat, Aug 14, 2004 at 09:52:39PM -0700, Reza Muhammad wrote:

 When i'm using imap with mozilla mail, everytime i
 sent email, mozilla mail idle with progrees tool bar 
  Copy message to sent item
 is there any idea ?

Please check your Mozilla-settings: Edit-Mail  Newsgroups
Account Settings-Copies  Folders. Does Sent point to an
existing folder? If not, create the default folders or point
Mozilla to different folders.

cu,
Uwe
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Re: mozilla and courier-imap

2004-08-14 Thread cpghost
On Fri, Aug 13, 2004 at 07:47:55PM +0200, Radek Kozlowski wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 13, 2004 at 12:50:22PM -0400, Richard Coleman wrote:
  I'm using the most recent ports for mozilla and courier-imap on an 
  up-to-date FreeBSD-stable.  Very often I will not see new messages in a 
  folder until I restart mozilla.  I was convinced it was mozilla that was 
  broken, but I've seen similar behavior using Thunderbird on my Windows 
  box.  Now I'm not so sure.
  
  Anyone else seen this?
  
  What is another decent IMAP client in ports?
 
 I had the same problem with Thunderbird (both on FreeBSD and Windows)
 and I blamed Mozilla. But then I was told that Courier-IMAP is not very
 standards-compliant IMAP implementation and tried Dovecot (mail/dovecot)
 instead. It turned out that Courier was the one to blame. With Dovecot
 Thunderbird was showing mail like it should. FWIW, I don't have any
 problems with it in mutt+imap either.

No problems with cyrus-imap and mutt(+esmtp). Thunderbird also works
as it should with cyrus-imap. Didn't test Courier though.

 -Radek

-cpghost.

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Re: mozilla and courier-imap

2004-08-14 Thread Uwe Laverenz
On Fri, Aug 13, 2004 at 12:50:22PM -0400, Richard Coleman wrote:

 I'm using the most recent ports for mozilla and courier-imap on an 
 up-to-date FreeBSD-stable.  Very often I will not see new messages in a 
 folder until I restart mozilla.  I was convinced it was mozilla that was 

What do you mean with a folder? If you mean the normal INBOX, just
increase the value of MAXPERIP in /usr/local/etc/courier-imap/imapd.
This value must be increased for use with mozilla (16 should be fine).

If you mean any folder, you have to tell Mozilla to monitor this folder
for new incoming mails (right-click on the folder...).

Generally Courier-Imap works perfectly with Mozilla: I have several servers
running it with many users of Mozilla-Mail.

cu,
Uwe

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Re: mozilla and courier-imap

2004-08-14 Thread Reza Muhammad
I have some problem too with mozilla mail and courier
imap.
When i'm using imap with mozilla mail, everytime i
sent email, mozilla mail idle with progrees tool bar 
 Copy message to sent item
is there any idea ?

regards
reza
--- Uwe Laverenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, Aug 13, 2004 at 12:50:22PM -0400, Richard
 Coleman wrote:
 
  I'm using the most recent ports for mozilla and
 courier-imap on an 
  up-to-date FreeBSD-stable.  Very often I will not
 see new messages in a 
  folder until I restart mozilla.  I was convinced
 it was mozilla that was 
 
 What do you mean with a folder? If you mean the
 normal INBOX, just
 increase the value of MAXPERIP in
 /usr/local/etc/courier-imap/imapd.
 This value must be increased for use with mozilla
 (16 should be fine).
 
 If you mean any folder, you have to tell Mozilla
 to monitor this folder
 for new incoming mails (right-click on the
 folder...).
 
 Generally Courier-Imap works perfectly with Mozilla:
 I have several servers
 running it with many users of Mozilla-Mail.
 
 cu,
 Uwe
 
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Re: mozilla and courier-imap

2004-08-13 Thread Ed Budd
Richard Coleman wrote:
I'm using the most recent ports for mozilla and courier-imap on an 
up-to-date FreeBSD-stable.  Very often I will not see new messages in a 
folder until I restart mozilla.  I was convinced it was mozilla that was 
broken, but I've seen similar behavior using Thunderbird on my Windows 
box.  Now I'm not so sure.

Anyone else seen this?

How are messages being routed to folders? If you're using some kind of 
server-side filtering make sure the box is checked that says check this 
folder for new messages in the properties of each folder. If the only 
filtering is through the user-configured rules in mozilla/thunderbird 
then everything gets delivered to the INBOX (or whatever is set up as 
imap root folder) and then filtered/routed to other folders AFTER the 
client is opened/started.

IOW this may be normal behaviour, not a broken client.


What is another decent IMAP client in ports?

IMHO thunderbird is one of the best for graphical imap clients - lean 
but featureful at the same time. I like Sylpheed as well.

Hope that helps

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Re: mozilla and courier-imap

2004-08-13 Thread Richard Coleman
Ed Budd wrote:
I'm using the most recent ports for mozilla and courier-imap on an
 up-to-date FreeBSD-stable.  Very often I will not see new messages
in a folder until I restart mozilla.  I was convinced it was
mozilla that was broken, but I've seen similar behavior using
Thunderbird on my Windows box.  Now I'm not so sure.
How are messages being routed to folders? If you're using some kind
of server-side filtering make sure the box is checked that says
check this folder for new messages in the properties of each
folder. If the only filtering is through the user-configured rules in
mozilla/thunderbird then everything gets delivered to the INBOX (or
whatever is set up as imap root folder) and then filtered/routed to
other folders AFTER the client is opened/started.
IOW this may be normal behaviour, not a broken client.
All the filtering is on the client side, so that is not the problem. 
The odd thing is that the client shows that there are new messages in 
the folder.  But when you click on the folder, none of the new messages 
are in the listing.  It looks like a caching problem, but I'm not sure 
if it is the client or server that is having the problem.

But thanks for the response.
Richard Coleman
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Re: mozilla and courier-imap

2004-08-13 Thread Radek Kozlowski
On Fri, Aug 13, 2004 at 12:50:22PM -0400, Richard Coleman wrote:
 I'm using the most recent ports for mozilla and courier-imap on an 
 up-to-date FreeBSD-stable.  Very often I will not see new messages in a 
 folder until I restart mozilla.  I was convinced it was mozilla that was 
 broken, but I've seen similar behavior using Thunderbird on my Windows 
 box.  Now I'm not so sure.
 
 Anyone else seen this?
 
 What is another decent IMAP client in ports?

I had the same problem with Thunderbird (both on FreeBSD and Windows)
and I blamed Mozilla. But then I was told that Courier-IMAP is not very
standards-compliant IMAP implementation and tried Dovecot (mail/dovecot)
instead. It turned out that Courier was the one to blame. With Dovecot
Thunderbird was showing mail like it should. FWIW, I don't have any
problems with it in mutt+imap either.

-Radek
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Re: mozilla and courier-imap

2004-08-13 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Fri, Aug 13, 2004 at 01:34:35PM -0400, Richard Coleman wrote:
 Ed Budd wrote:
 I'm using the most recent ports for mozilla and courier-imap on an
  up-to-date FreeBSD-stable.  Very often I will not see new messages
 in a folder until I restart mozilla.  I was convinced it was
 mozilla that was broken, but I've seen similar behavior using
 Thunderbird on my Windows box.  Now I'm not so sure.
 
 How are messages being routed to folders? If you're using some kind
 of server-side filtering make sure the box is checked that says
 check this folder for new messages in the properties of each
 folder. If the only filtering is through the user-configured rules in
 mozilla/thunderbird then everything gets delivered to the INBOX (or
 whatever is set up as imap root folder) and then filtered/routed to
 other folders AFTER the client is opened/started.
 
 IOW this may be normal behaviour, not a broken client.
 
 All the filtering is on the client side, so that is not the problem. 
 The odd thing is that the client shows that there are new messages in 
 the folder.  But when you click on the folder, none of the new messages 
 are in the listing.  It looks like a caching problem, but I'm not sure 
 if it is the client or server that is having the problem.
 
 But thanks for the response.

Hmmm... You might want to give dovecot a try on the server side.  It's
really rather good.  As for IMAP clients: if you've got a spare PHP
enabled webserver anywhere, squirrelmail is pretty simple to set up.

IMAP is pretty tricky that way: all of the different clients and
servers implement only approximately the same protocol and getting
everything to agree on a compatible set of quirks can be a bore.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: mozilla and courier-imap

2004-08-13 Thread Bill Campbell
On Fri, Aug 13, 2004, Radek Kozlowski wrote:
On Fri, Aug 13, 2004 at 12:50:22PM -0400, Richard Coleman wrote:
 I'm using the most recent ports for mozilla and courier-imap on an 
 up-to-date FreeBSD-stable.  Very often I will not see new messages in a 
 folder until I restart mozilla.  I was convinced it was mozilla that was 
 broken, but I've seen similar behavior using Thunderbird on my Windows 
 box.  Now I'm not so sure.
 
 Anyone else seen this?
 
 What is another decent IMAP client in ports?

I had the same problem with Thunderbird (both on FreeBSD and Windows)
and I blamed Mozilla. But then I was told that Courier-IMAP is not very
standards-compliant IMAP implementation and tried Dovecot (mail/dovecot)
instead. It turned out that Courier was the one to blame. With Dovecot
Thunderbird was showing mail like it should. FWIW, I don't have any
problems with it in mutt+imap either.

If you configure courier-imap there's an option to work around
these issues.

./configure --enable-workarounds-for-imap-client-bugs ...

Bill
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