java/icetea-web broken?

[Aryeh Friedman]

I install it (on a machine that it used to work on until I had to
reinstall FB) and there is none of the normal command line tools and
when I attempt to open a jnlp file in ff (21.0) java/icetea-web (1.4)
it goes into an infinite loop of opening new blank tabs the site
in question works perfectly on pre-21.0 and/or 1.4 and on all other
OS's
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Re: A serious flaw in Java

[Polytropon]

On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 07:50:07 + (UTC), jb wrote:
> http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/625617

http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/01/critical-java-zero-day-bug-is-being-massively-exploited-in-the-wild/



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A serious flaw in Java

[jb]

http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/625617
jb


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LibreOffice with Java?

[Walter Hurry]

I note that in the Makefile for libreoffice
(/usr/ports/editors/libreoffice/Makefile) it says:

"LibreOffice works only with Java 6"

But I have Java 7. Is this a problem?

$ java -version
openjdk version "1.7.0_04"
OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_04-b22)
OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 23.0-b21, mixed mode)
$

LibreOffice seems to install (from the port) and run OK.
This is 9.0-RELEASE on amd64.

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Re: /usr/local/java/jboss5 fails to build

[vermaden]

Hi, it worked! :) I copied the attached pom.xml file and also 
removed/root/.m2/repository dir and jboss5 built beautifully ;)Unfortunately I 
did not get any response from JBOSScommunity :/ Regards and thanks 
again,vermaden  "Horst Leitenmueller" 
 pisze:Hican you please trywith patch 
-p1 < patch.pompom.xml.orig is only the copy to keep the original 
pom.file...br horsthere the complete pom file...
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Re: /usr/local/java/jboss5 fails to build

[Horst Leitenmueller]

Hi

can you please try

with patch -p1 < patch.pom

pom.xml.orig is only the copy to keep the original pom.file...

br horst

here the complete pom file



On 20.04.2012, at 12:17, vermaden wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I am not able to apply the patch ...
> 
> 
> 
> mysql# pwd
> /usr/ports/java/jboss5
> mysql# make clean
> ===>  Cleaning for jboss-5.1.0.GA_1,1
> mysql# make extract
> ===>  License check disabled, port has not defined LICENSE
> ===>  Extracting for jboss-5.1.0.GA_1,1
> => SHA256 Checksum OK for jboss-5.1.0.GA-src.tar.gz.
> mysql# cd work/jboss-5.1.0.GA-src/
> mysql# patch < /home/vermaden/patch.pom
> Hmm...  Looks like a context diff to me...
> The text leading up to this was:
> --
> |*** pom.xml.orig   Thu Apr 19 18:29:15 2012
> |--- pom.xmlThu Apr 19 20:40:37 2012
> --
> Patching file pom.xml using Plan A...
> (Fascinating--this is really a new-style context diff but without
> the telltale extra asterisks on the *** line that usually indicate
> the new style...)
> Hunk #1 failed at 280.
> Hunk #2 failed at 302.
> Hunk #3 failed at 362.
> 3 out of 3 hunks failed--saving rejects to pom.xml.rej
> done
> 
> 
> ---
> 
> 
> mysql# pwd
> /usr/ports/java/jboss5
> mysql# make clean
> ===>  Cleaning for jboss-5.1.0.GA_1,1
> mysql# make patch
> ===>  License check disabled, port has not defined LICENSE
> ===>  Extracting for jboss-5.1.0.GA_1,1
> => SHA256 Checksum OK for jboss-5.1.0.GA-src.tar.gz.
> ===>  Patching for jboss-5.1.0.GA_1,1
> ===>  Applying FreeBSD patches for jboss-5.1.0.GA_1,1
> mysql# cd work/jboss-5.1.0.GA-src/
> mysql# patch < /home/vermaden/patch.pom 
> Hmm...  Looks like a context diff to me...
> The text leading up to this was:
> --
> |*** pom.xml.orig   Thu Apr 19 18:29:15 2012
> |--- pom.xmlThu Apr 19 20:40:37 2012
> --
> Patching file pom.xml using Plan A...
> (Fascinating--this is really a new-style context diff but without
> the telltale extra asterisks on the *** line that usually indicate
> the new style...)
> Hunk #1 failed at 280.
> Hunk #2 failed at 302.
> Hunk #3 failed at 362.
> 3 out of 3 hunks failed--saving rejects to pom.xml.rej
> done
> 
> 
> Could You please attach the whole modified working POM.XML? ;)
> 
> Thanks,
> veramden
> 
> 
> "Horst Leitenmueller"  pisze:
>> hi vermaden,
>> 
>> here is the howto and all needed changes...
>> 
>> 
>> installation is done on a 8.2-RELEASE-p6 FreeBSD amd64 with openjdk6
>> 
>> what is missing is a settings.xml which must be located in the home 
>> directory of root, or the one who is installing ports
>> 
>> /root/.m2/settings.xml
>> 
>> file is attached in this file the depricated jboss dependencies are kept; 
>> otherwise you will not be able to build
>> 
>> second thing is i removed/changed things from the pom.xml file in the 
>> portbuild/usr/ports/java/jboss5/work/jboss-5.1.0.GA-src/
>> 
>> there are changes for 
>> 
>> and 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> the entries glassfish i have removed 
>> http://maven.glassfish.org/content/groups/glassfish they just deliver not 
>> working response
>> 
>> how to patch, i run "make install" in /usr/ports/java/jboss5
>> when jboss-src is downloaded and extracted i interrupted the build
>> 
>> patched the pom.xml   (problem was, i thougth install will work, but it was 
>> running and downloading garbage from glassfish repo...)
>> rm -rf /root/.m2/repository/ helps also if some garbage is collected
>> 
>> jboss-team has announced there will be a repo change already some time ago, 
>> but i also did not recognize it :-) until it was turned off...
>> 
>> for the portmaintainer ? how to handle the settings.xml ? the other things 
>> can be patched…
>> 
>> 
>> and settings.xml
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
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> 
> 
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Re: /usr/local/java/jboss5 fails to build

[vermaden]

Hi,

I am not able to apply the patch ...



mysql# pwd
/usr/ports/java/jboss5
mysql# make clean
===>  Cleaning for jboss-5.1.0.GA_1,1
mysql# make extract
===>  License check disabled, port has not defined LICENSE
===>  Extracting for jboss-5.1.0.GA_1,1
=> SHA256 Checksum OK for jboss-5.1.0.GA-src.tar.gz.
mysql# cd work/jboss-5.1.0.GA-src/
mysql# patch < /home/vermaden/patch.pom
Hmm...  Looks like a context diff to me...
The text leading up to this was:
--
|*** pom.xml.orig   Thu Apr 19 18:29:15 2012
|--- pom.xmlThu Apr 19 20:40:37 2012
--
Patching file pom.xml using Plan A...
(Fascinating--this is really a new-style context diff but without
the telltale extra asterisks on the *** line that usually indicate
the new style...)
Hunk #1 failed at 280.
Hunk #2 failed at 302.
Hunk #3 failed at 362.
3 out of 3 hunks failed--saving rejects to pom.xml.rej
done


---


mysql# pwd
/usr/ports/java/jboss5
mysql# make clean
===>  Cleaning for jboss-5.1.0.GA_1,1
mysql# make patch
===>  License check disabled, port has not defined LICENSE
===>  Extracting for jboss-5.1.0.GA_1,1
=> SHA256 Checksum OK for jboss-5.1.0.GA-src.tar.gz.
===>  Patching for jboss-5.1.0.GA_1,1
===>  Applying FreeBSD patches for jboss-5.1.0.GA_1,1
mysql# cd work/jboss-5.1.0.GA-src/
mysql# patch < /home/vermaden/patch.pom 
Hmm...  Looks like a context diff to me...
The text leading up to this was:
--
|*** pom.xml.orig   Thu Apr 19 18:29:15 2012
|--- pom.xmlThu Apr 19 20:40:37 2012
--
Patching file pom.xml using Plan A...
(Fascinating--this is really a new-style context diff but without
the telltale extra asterisks on the *** line that usually indicate
the new style...)
Hunk #1 failed at 280.
Hunk #2 failed at 302.
Hunk #3 failed at 362.
3 out of 3 hunks failed--saving rejects to pom.xml.rej
done


Could You please attach the whole modified working POM.XML? ;)

Thanks,
veramden


"Horst Leitenmueller"  pisze:
> hi vermaden,
> 
> here is the howto and all needed changes...
> 
> 
> installation is done on a 8.2-RELEASE-p6 FreeBSD amd64 with openjdk6
> 
> what is missing is a settings.xml which must be located in the home directory 
> of root, or the one who is installing ports
> 
> /root/.m2/settings.xml
> 
> file is attached in this file the depricated jboss dependencies are kept; 
> otherwise you will not be able to build
> 
> second thing is i removed/changed things from the pom.xml file in the 
> portbuild/usr/ports/java/jboss5/work/jboss-5.1.0.GA-src/
> 
> there are changes for 
>   
> and 
> 
> 
> 
> the entries glassfish i have removed 
> http://maven.glassfish.org/content/groups/glassfish they just deliver not 
> working response
> 
> how to patch, i run "make install" in /usr/ports/java/jboss5
> when jboss-src is downloaded and extracted i interrupted the build
> 
> patched the pom.xml   (problem was, i thougth install will work, but it was 
> running and downloading garbage from glassfish repo...)
> rm -rf /root/.m2/repository/ helps also if some garbage is collected
> 
> jboss-team has announced there will be a repo change already some time ago, 
> but i also did not recognize it :-) until it was turned off...
> 
> for the portmaintainer ? how to handle the settings.xml ? the other things 
> can be patched…
> 
> 
> and settings.xml
> 



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Re: /usr/local/java/jboss5 fails to build

[vermaden]

Hi and thank You very much ;)

I will try this process tomorrow at 9.0 amd64.

Also, about the provided HOWTO ...
> how to patch, i run "make install" in /usr/ports/java/jboss5
> when jboss-src is downloaded and extracted i interrupted the build

This should be possible by typing *make extract* instead? ;p

Regards,
vermaden

"Horst Leitenmueller"  pisze:
> hi vermaden,
> 
> here is the howto and all needed changes...
> 
> 
> installation is done on a 8.2-RELEASE-p6 FreeBSD amd64 with openjdk6
> 
> what is missing is a settings.xml which must be located in the home directory 
> of root, or the one who is installing ports
> 
> /root/.m2/settings.xml
> 
> file is attached in this file the depricated jboss dependencies are kept; 
> otherwise you will not be able to build
> 
> second thing is i removed/changed things from the pom.xml file in the 
> portbuild/usr/ports/java/jboss5/work/jboss-5.1.0.GA-src/
> 
> there are changes for 
>   
> and 
> 
> 
> 
> the entries glassfish i have removed 
> http://maven.glassfish.org/content/groups/glassfish they just deliver not 
> working response
> 
> how to patch, i run "make install" in /usr/ports/java/jboss5
> when jboss-src is downloaded and extracted i interrupted the build
> 
> patched the pom.xml   (problem was, i thougth install will work, but it was 
> running and downloading garbage from glassfish repo...)
> rm -rf /root/.m2/repository/ helps also if some garbage is collected
> 
> jboss-team has announced there will be a repo change already some time ago, 
> but i also did not recognize it :-) until it was turned off...
> 
> for the portmaintainer ? how to handle the settings.xml ? the other things 
> can be patched…
> 
> 
> and settings.xml
> 



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Re: /usr/local/java/jboss5 fails to build

[Horst Leitenmueller]

hi vermaden,

here is the howto and all needed changes...


installation is done on a 8.2-RELEASE-p6 FreeBSD amd64 with openjdk6

what is missing is a settings.xml which must be located in the home directory 
of root, or the one who is installing ports

/root/.m2/settings.xml

file is attached in this file the depricated jboss dependencies are kept; 
otherwise you will not be able to build

second thing is i removed/changed things from the pom.xml file in the 
portbuild/usr/ports/java/jboss5/work/jboss-5.1.0.GA-src/

there are changes for 
  
and 



the entries glassfish i have removed 
http://maven.glassfish.org/content/groups/glassfish they just 
deliver not working response

how to patch, i run "make install" in /usr/ports/java/jboss5
when jboss-src is downloaded and extracted i interrupted the build

patched the pom.xml   (problem was, i thougth install will work, but it was 
running and downloading garbage from glassfish repo...)
rm -rf /root/.m2/repository/ helps also if some garbage is collected

jboss-team has announced there will be a repo change already some time ago, but 
i also did not recognize it :-) until it was turned off...

for the portmaintainer ? how to handle the settings.xml ? the other things can 
be patched…


and settings.xml


here the patch for pom file:  patch < patch.pom in 
portbuild/usr/ports/java/jboss5/work/jboss-5.1.0.GA-src/



patch.pom
Description: Binary data


patch can be applied like described here

http://www.freebsddiary.org/patch.php

br horst

PS: 

BUILD SUCCESSFUL
Total time: 11 minutes 25 seconds


To run the jboss server from startup, add jboss5_enable="YES" in your 
/etc/rc.conf. Extra options can be found in the startup script.
===>   Registering installation for jboss-5.1.0.GA_1,1

;-) good luck

On 19.04.2012, at 07:22, vermaden wrote:

> "Horst Leitenmueller"  pisze:
>> it is functional i'm using it
>> 
>> but some changes must be done on the maven dependencies, here is a summary 
>> of the changes to get it build again
>> 
>> problem is jboss has change to a new repository system and all old urls are 
>> changed...(nice work of jboss team ;-))
>> just a few things must be changed
>> 
>> i will write tomorrow the summary, i hope somebody can fix it then
>> 
>> br horst
> 
> Thanks, I appreciate Your help, waiting for instructions then ...
> 
> ... and for JBoss community to reply ;)
> 
> Regards,
> vermaden
> 
>> On 18.04.2012, at 21:30, Jason Helfman wrote:
>> 
>>> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 07:42:55AM +, vermaden thus spake:
>>>> hi,
>>>> 
>>>> I do not pressure to use the Ports version I just need a working
>>>> JBOSS5 on FreeBSD, I can download jboss-5.1.0.GA.zip from here
>>>> 
>>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/jboss/files/JBoss/JBoss-5.1.0.GA/
>>>> 
>>>> But will it be fully functional on FreeBSD?
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> vermaden
>>> 
>>> I can't answer if it will be functional or not on FreeBSD until it is
>>> successfully installed, however it being in the portstree gives me some
>>> indication that it did work at one time. This is a vendor issue though, and
>>> I would urge you to contact them regarding their maven repository issue with
>>> the error you are receiving.
>>> 
>>> I would be happy to look into this further after they are able to diagnose
>>> the issue.
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> -jgh
>>> 
>>> -- 
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Re: /usr/local/java/jboss5 fails to build

[vermaden]

"Horst Leitenmueller"  pisze:
> it is functional i'm using it
> 
> but some changes must be done on the maven dependencies, here is a summary of 
> the changes to get it build again
> 
> problem is jboss has change to a new repository system and all old urls are 
> changed...(nice work of jboss team ;-))
> just a few things must be changed
> 
> i will write tomorrow the summary, i hope somebody can fix it then
> 
> br horst

Thanks, I appreciate Your help, waiting for instructions then ...

... and for JBoss community to reply ;)

Regards,
vermaden

> On 18.04.2012, at 21:30, Jason Helfman wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 07:42:55AM +, vermaden thus spake:
> > > hi,
> > > 
> > > I do not pressure to use the Ports version I just need a working
> > > JBOSS5 on FreeBSD, I can download jboss-5.1.0.GA.zip from here
> > > 
> > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/jboss/files/JBoss/JBoss-5.1.0.GA/
> > > 
> > > But will it be fully functional on FreeBSD?
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > vermaden
> > 
> > I can't answer if it will be functional or not on FreeBSD until it is
> > successfully installed, however it being in the portstree gives me some
> > indication that it did work at one time. This is a vendor issue though, and
> > I would urge you to contact them regarding their maven repository issue with
> > the error you are receiving.
> > 
> > I would be happy to look into this further after they are able to diagnose
> > the issue.
> > 
> > Thanks!
> > -jgh
> > 
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Re: /usr/local/java/jboss5 fails to build

[Horst Leitenmueller]

it is functional i'm using it

but some changes must be done on the maven dependencies, here is a summary of 
the changes to get it build again

problem is jboss has change to a new repository system and all old urls are 
changed...(nice work of jboss team ;-))
just a few things must be changed

i will write tomorrow the summary, i hope somebody can fix it then

br horst



On 18.04.2012, at 21:30, Jason Helfman wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 07:42:55AM +, vermaden thus spake:
>> hi,
>> 
>> I do not pressure to use the Ports version I just need a working
>> JBOSS5 on FreeBSD, I can download jboss-5.1.0.GA.zip from here
>> 
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/jboss/files/JBoss/JBoss-5.1.0.GA/
>> 
>> But will it be fully functional on FreeBSD?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> vermaden
> 
> I can't answer if it will be functional or not on FreeBSD until it is
> successfully installed, however it being in the portstree gives me some
> indication that it did work at one time. This is a vendor issue though, and
> I would urge you to contact them regarding their maven repository issue with
> the error you are receiving.
> 
> I would be happy to look into this further after they are able to diagnose
> the issue.
> 
> Thanks!
> -jgh
> 
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Re: /usr/local/java/jboss5 fails to build

[Jason Helfman]

On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 07:42:55AM +, vermaden thus spake:

hi,

I do not pressure to use the Ports version I just need a working
JBOSS5 on FreeBSD, I can download jboss-5.1.0.GA.zip from here

http://sourceforge.net/projects/jboss/files/JBoss/JBoss-5.1.0.GA/

But will it be fully functional on FreeBSD?

Regards,
vermaden


I can't answer if it will be functional or not on FreeBSD until it is
successfully installed, however it being in the portstree gives me some
indication that it did work at one time. This is a vendor issue though, and
I would urge you to contact them regarding their maven repository issue with
the error you are receiving.

I would be happy to look into this further after they are able to diagnose
the issue.

Thanks!
-jgh

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Re: /usr/local/java/jboss5 fails to build

[vermaden]

hi,

I do not pressure to use the Ports version I just need a working
JBOSS5 on FreeBSD, I can download jboss-5.1.0.GA.zip from here

http://sourceforge.net/projects/jboss/files/JBoss/JBoss-5.1.0.GA/

But will it be fully functional on FreeBSD?

Regards,
vermaden

"Jason Helfman"  pisze:
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 08:34:55PM +, vermaden thus spake:
> >Hi,
> >
> >I have the same problem as described here:
> >http://freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=166986
> >
> >The package of JBOSS5 is also not available, any suggestions?
> >
> >Any help appreciated.
> >
> >Regards,
> >vermaden
> 
> I've dealt somewhat with the maven repositories, and this is nothing really
> that can be prevented in the portstree.  Working with the vendor in
> releasing a distribution file of the maven repository at the time of the
> release of the code that is required for code to build against is something
> that can be done to prevent this. I worked with the vendor in doing this for
> databases/jasperserver.
> 
> This really is an issue with the remote repository, and needs to be fixed
> with the owners of that maven code repository.
> 
> I suggest in working with the vendor to fix the repository, and it would be
> great if you can convince them to release a snapshot of the maven repository
> that the code was used to build from for distribution purposes. That way, it
> will always be build-able.
> 
> Even if they fix it today, someone could break it soon afterwards.
> 
> -jgh
> 
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Re: /usr/local/java/jboss5 fails to build

[Jason Helfman]

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 08:34:55PM +, vermaden thus spake:

Hi,

I have the same problem as described here:
http://freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=166986

The package of JBOSS5 is also not available, any suggestions?

Any help appreciated.

Regards,
vermaden


I've dealt somewhat with the maven repositories, and this is nothing really
that can be prevented in the portstree.  Working with the vendor in
releasing a distribution file of the maven repository at the time of the
release of the code that is required for code to build against is something
that can be done to prevent this. I worked with the vendor in doing this for
databases/jasperserver.

This really is an issue with the remote repository, and needs to be fixed
with the owners of that maven code repository.

I suggest in working with the vendor to fix the repository, and it would be
great if you can convince them to release a snapshot of the maven repository
that the code was used to build from for distribution purposes. That way, it
will always be build-able.

Even if they fix it today, someone could break it soon afterwards.

-jgh

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/usr/local/java/jboss5 fails to build

[vermaden]

Hi,

I have the same problem as described here:
http://freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=166986

The package of JBOSS5 is also not available, any suggestions?

Any help appreciated.

Regards,
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Java and the system tray

[Da Rock]

General question: I'm trying to get Jitsi running with video (please, no 
suggestions on other apps - I know and tested them from ports), and 
while that is not going so well my most annoying bug bear is when I 
click the close button on the title bar it disappears! Heaven forbid I 
forget to actually use file->quit instead :/


Java doesn't like the system tray (IceWM - java spits a whole lot of 
error msgs about failing to initialise the java.awt.systemtray), and I 
cannot get Jitsi back after that. Does anyone know how to get Java to 
play nice? Or how to get the WM it deal with it properly?


Cheers
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Re: Where is Java plugin web option on openjdk6? an issue?

[Alvaro Castillo]

On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 7:41 AM, Alvaro Castillo  wrote:

> Good morning, I cannot see IcedTea web plugin option to compile on
> /usr/ports/java/openjdk6. an issue?
> http://www.freshports.org/java/openjdk6/
>
> This option is not set enable on default because
> /usr/local/openjdk6/jre/lib/IcedTeaPlugin.so isn't exists.
>
> Any suggestions? thanks
>

No problem I see it! "rebuild the port with "ICEDTEA" option first, then
install a new port java/icedtea-web with "PLUGIN" option (default)"

Greets!
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Where is Java plugin web option on openjdk6? an issue?

[Alvaro Castillo]

Good morning, I cannot see IcedTea web plugin option to compile on
/usr/ports/java/openjdk6. an issue?
http://www.freshports.org/java/openjdk6/

This option is not set enable on default because
/usr/local/openjdk6/jre/lib/IcedTeaPlugin.so isn't exists.

Any suggestions? thanks
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Re: what to do about missing Flash and missing Java

[Mark Felder]

On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 19:22:54 -0500, Henry Olyer   
wrote:




So here it is, I just installed 8.2 and need the latest Flash.  What's  
the

right procedure here, please.


Java is not a problem and non-native flash has worked without issues here  
for a very long time. In fact, it's less problematic than actually running  
the native linux version on linux in my opinion.


The handbook has everything you need to know:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/desktop-browsers.html
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what to do about missing Flash and missing Java

[Henry Olyer]

I love FreeBSD, (and though years ago I was a Slackware user,) I much prefer
the BSD's.  But guy's, we really have to solve these problems.

So here it is, I just installed 8.2 and need the latest Flash.  What's the
right procedure here, please.
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Re: info about java ide

[Patrick Lamaiziere]

Le Tue, 24 May 2011 08:20:45 +0100,
Jamie Paul Griffin  a écrit :

Hello,

> I need to install a Java ide and I'm looking for advice about which
> jdk component might be best to use with it. I was thinking about
> using netbeans so would I need to use the sun-linux-jdk16 for that or
> could I use openjdk instead.

I use netbeans with openjdk6 or the sun/oracle version.
That works fine, except the profiler which is not available on FreeBSD.

> Perhaps diablo-jdk16 would be better, I
> guess I'd need that to actually build the sun version anyway wouldn't
> I?

Yes you need java to build java.

If you build java with IPv6 you may have problem with the subversion
module in netbeans, you have to specify -Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true
on the java command line (or -J-D in netbeans.conf).

Regards.
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info about java ide

[Jamie Paul Griffin]

Hello

I need to install a Java ide and I'm looking for advice about which jdk 
component might be best to use with it. I was thinking about using netbeans so 
would I need to use the sun-linux-jdk16 for that or could I use openjdk 
instead. Perhaps diablo-jdk16 would be better, I guess I'd need that to 
actually build the sun version anyway wouldn't I?

Any help would be great. 

Jamie
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Re: java support in FBSD Firefox 4

[Robert Huff]

Tim Kellers writes:

>  Someplace between Firefox 3.5 and 4.0 I changed from diablo to openjdk.
>  
>  That:
>  ln -s /usr/local/openjdk6/jre/lib/IcedTeaPlugin.so ~/.mozilla/plugins/
>  
>  was the missing step for me.

I tried this, and discovered that - at least for SeaMonkey - I
had to go to the plugins manager and explicitly enable it before it
would show up in "about:plugins".


Robert Huff

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Re: java support in FBSD Firefox 4

[John R. Levine]

This link explains it pretty well:
http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=21010



Someplace between Firefox 3.5 and 4.0 I changed from diablo to openjdk.


It was 3.6.  Check the archives for considerable gnashing of teeth as we 
tried to figure out how to get Java working again.



ln -s /usr/local/openjdk6/jre/lib/IcedTeaPlugin.so ~/.mozilla/plugins/
was the missing step for me.


Free bonus: if you use Chromium, it works there, too:

ln -s /usr/local/openjdk6/jre/lib/IcedTeaPlugin.so /usr/local/share/chromium/

Regards,
John Levine, jo...@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies",
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Re: java support in FBSD Firefox 4

[Tim Kellers]

On 03/31/11 11:06, John Levine wrote:

In article<4d948902.6000...@wallnet.com>  you write:

Before I attempt to (re)invent the java wheel in Firefox 4...

Is there any documentation about how to enable java support already
written or available.  If there isn't, does anyone have any hints?

It's unchanged from 3.6, or at least, when I upgraded from 3.6 to 4
Java kept working.

This link explains it pretty well:

http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=21010

R's,
John
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Thanks.

Someplace between Firefox 3.5 and 4.0 I changed from diablo to openjdk.

That:
ln -s /usr/local/openjdk6/jre/lib/IcedTeaPlugin.so ~/.mozilla/plugins/

was the missing step for me.

Tim Kellers
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Re: java support in FBSD Firefox 4

[Adam Vande More]

On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Tim Kellers  wrote:

> Before I attempt to (re)invent the java wheel in Firefox 4...
>
> Is there any documentation about how to enable java support already written
> or available.  If there isn't, does anyone have any hints?
>

As always, the FreeBSD Handbook is what you should consult first which gives
a 3 command installation instructions to achieve your goal.



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Re: java support in FBSD Firefox 4

[John Levine]

In article <4d948902.6000...@wallnet.com> you write:
>Before I attempt to (re)invent the java wheel in Firefox 4...
>
>Is there any documentation about how to enable java support already 
>written or available.  If there isn't, does anyone have any hints?

It's unchanged from 3.6, or at least, when I upgraded from 3.6 to 4
Java kept working.

This link explains it pretty well:

http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=21010

R's,
John
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java support in FBSD Firefox 4

[Tim Kellers]

Before I attempt to (re)invent the java wheel in Firefox 4...

Is there any documentation about how to enable java support already 
written or available.  If there isn't, does anyone have any hints?


Thanks

Tim
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java plugin for firefox

[Pavel Timofeev]

Is it necessary to install libxul for enabling java plugin in firefox3.6?
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Re: java plugin for firefox

[Pavel Timofeev]

Pavel Timofeev wrote:
> 
> Is it necessary to install libxul for enabling java plugin in firefox3.6?
> 
Excuse me. I use FreeBSD 8.2 RELEASE i386, firefox3.6, openjdk6
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Re: Coldfusion, Postgres and Java under FreeBSD

[Rob Farmer]

On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 11:36 PM, n j  wrote:
> openjdk-7.0.122_1
> Java Development Kit 7
> Long description : Sources : Changes : Download
>
> vs.
>
> openoffice.org-2.1.0
> Integrated wordprocessor/dbase/spreadsheet/drawing/chart/browser
> Long description | Package | Sources | Main Web Site
>
> In any way, I stand corrected. I should probably start testdriving
> OpenJDK to see if it can successfully replace diablo-jdk.
>

I would recommend openjdk6 unless you have a specific need for 7. It
is getting a lot more attention (for example, the web plugin from
IcedTea is available in 6).

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Re: Coldfusion, Postgres and Java under FreeBSD

[n j]

On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 2:13 AM, b. f.  wrote:
> Why not now? (Or anytime this past year or more?):

Hmm, good point :-).

I was misled by the ports page (e.g.
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=openjdk&stype=all) which
used to have a different entry if a port had a package, i.e.:

openjdk-7.0.122_1
Java Development Kit 7
Long description : Sources : Changes : Download

vs.

openoffice.org-2.1.0
Integrated wordprocessor/dbase/spreadsheet/drawing/chart/browser
Long description | Package | Sources | Main Web Site

In any way, I stand corrected. I should probably start testdriving
OpenJDK to see if it can successfully replace diablo-jdk.

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Re: Coldfusion, Postgres and Java under FreeBSD

[b. f.]

...
> I'm running Java on FreeBSD right now, but I must say I'd probably
> stick to Linux nowadays if I had any say, at least until there comes a
> day when I'll be able to "pkg_add -r openjdk7".
...

Why not now? (Or anytime this past year or more?):

http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8.1-release/java/openjdk-7.0.86.tbz
http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8.2-release/java/openjdk-7.0.122.tbz
http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8-stable/java/openjdk-7.0.122_1.tbz

http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-8.1-release/java/openjdk-7.0.86.tbz
http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-8.2-release/java/openjdk-7.0.122.tbz
http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-8-stable/java/openjdk-7.0.122_1.tbz

etc.

b.
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Re: Coldfusion, Postgres and Java under FreeBSD

[Mark Felder]

On Mon, 07 Mar 2011 12:19:33 -0600, n j  wrote:


IMHO, building Java on FreeBSD is a pain.


AFAIK, Sun/Oracle doesn't provide precompiled OpenJDK for anyone, really.  
Even OSX now has to build their own. If it's precompiled it's probably not  
OpenJDK.



Regards,


Mark
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Re: Coldfusion, Postgres and Java under FreeBSD

[n j]

> Java works very well for me under FreeBSD; I have not had a single
> problem with Java on FreeBSD.
> To install java, you can either install a pre-compiled JDK (called
> diablo-jdk) or compile all the JDK sources from scratch using the
> ports system.  If you compile yourself from ports, you can choose
> either JDK 1.5 or JDK 1.6 (there may even be newer and older JDK
> versions that work fine).  I'm running JDK 1.5 compiled from source on
> both my servers, and have had no problems in my Java applications.
> The dependencies list for 1.6 is a bit more involved, but the
> compile/install process is so automated that you won't be bothered
> with the amount of work it takes to install a JDK.
>
> So, in a nutshell, Java is very well supported under FreeBSD and you
> should consider this to be a non-issue.

IMHO, building Java on FreeBSD is a pain.

Don't get me wrong, people working on FreeBSD Java project are doing a
*great* job, but it was so much easier to just download the packages
from FreeBSD Foundation thanks to the deal with Sun. I don't know
what's the status of that deal right now, but there are no packages
for 8-RELEASE and the packages themselves weren't updated in a long
while, so I guess the deal's off.

I'm running Java on FreeBSD right now, but I must say I'd probably
stick to Linux nowadays if I had any say, at least until there comes a
day when I'll be able to "pkg_add -r openjdk7".

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Re: Coldfusion, Postgres and Java under FreeBSD

[Rodrigo Freitas]

Thanks a lot!!

Has anyone successfully installed Coldfusion 9?

On Monday, March 7, 2011, Nerius Landys  wrote:
>> Question #2: Is the JVM implementation for FreeBSD reliable and fast? Most
>> of my software components are made in Java (including HSQDB)
>
> Since I have experience with Java on FreeBSD, I will try to answer
> this question.
>
> Java works very well for me under FreeBSD; I have not had a single
> problem with Java on FreeBSD.
> To install java, you can either install a pre-compiled JDK (called
> diablo-jdk) or compile all the JDK sources from scratch using the
> ports system.  If you compile yourself from ports, you can choose
> either JDK 1.5 or JDK 1.6 (there may even be newer and older JDK
> versions that work fine).  I'm running JDK 1.5 compiled from source on
> both my servers, and have had no problems in my Java applications.
> The dependencies list for 1.6 is a bit more involved, but the
> compile/install process is so automated that you won't be bothered
> with the amount of work it takes to install a JDK.
>
> So, in a nutshell, Java is very well supported under FreeBSD and you
> should consider this to be a non-issue.
>
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Re: Coldfusion, Postgres and Java under FreeBSD

[Nerius Landys]

> Question #2: Is the JVM implementation for FreeBSD reliable and fast? Most
> of my software components are made in Java (including HSQDB)

Since I have experience with Java on FreeBSD, I will try to answer
this question.

Java works very well for me under FreeBSD; I have not had a single
problem with Java on FreeBSD.
To install java, you can either install a pre-compiled JDK (called
diablo-jdk) or compile all the JDK sources from scratch using the
ports system.  If you compile yourself from ports, you can choose
either JDK 1.5 or JDK 1.6 (there may even be newer and older JDK
versions that work fine).  I'm running JDK 1.5 compiled from source on
both my servers, and have had no problems in my Java applications.
The dependencies list for 1.6 is a bit more involved, but the
compile/install process is so automated that you won't be bothered
with the amount of work it takes to install a JDK.

So, in a nutshell, Java is very well supported under FreeBSD and you
should consider this to be a non-issue.
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Re: Coldfusion, Postgres and Java under FreeBSD

[Michael J. Kearney]

The new jre or java executable.. needs the proc filesystem and or the binaries 
may not be what you want. . Ftw

Rodrigo Freitas  wrote:


Michael
Excuse me, I didn't quite get your answer...

On Monday, March 7, 2011, Michael  J. Kearney  wrote:
>
> Most .config files use the linux subsystem. . And the jre requires the proc 
> filesystem. .. you dont have to run fbsd atm
>
> Rodrigo Freitas  wrote:
>
>
> Dear friends,
>
> I've been studying/researching to understand what is the best OS for my
> production environment.
> I didn't know FreeBSD until this need, and now I'm fascinated with the stuff
> I've been reading about it.
> I have 2 servers with the following SW/HW:
>
> Server 1:
> Postgres 9
> HSQLDB (Java)
> 2 cpu 5620 / 48 GB RAM
>
> Server 2:
> Coldfusion 9 and other java applications
> 2 cpu 5620 / 24 GB RAM
>
> I searched the web about performance and portability for these applications
> on FreeBSD, but I could not find any clear article about my doubts, that's
> why I'm asking for your help.
>
> Question #1: Is anyone running Coldfusion on FreeBSD? It looks like Adobe
> only supports Red Had and SuSe.
>
> Question #2: Is the JVM implementation for FreeBSD reliable and fast? Most
> of my software components are made in Java (including HSQDB)
>
> Question #3: I read a lot of old posts saying that the overall performance
> of Postgres under FreeBSD is better than on some Linux distributions. Is
> this still valid for the current versions?
>
> I appreciate your valuable time for reading this and for helping me.
>
> Thanks a lot
>
> Rodrigo
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Re: Coldfusion, Postgres and Java under FreeBSD

[Rodrigo Freitas]

Michael
Excuse me, I didn't quite get your answer...

On Monday, March 7, 2011, Michael  J. Kearney  wrote:
>
> Most .config files use the linux subsystem. . And the jre requires the proc 
> filesystem. .. you dont have to run fbsd atm
>
> Rodrigo Freitas  wrote:
>
>
> Dear friends,
>
> I've been studying/researching to understand what is the best OS for my
> production environment.
> I didn't know FreeBSD until this need, and now I'm fascinated with the stuff
> I've been reading about it.
> I have 2 servers with the following SW/HW:
>
> Server 1:
> Postgres 9
> HSQLDB (Java)
> 2 cpu 5620 / 48 GB RAM
>
> Server 2:
> Coldfusion 9 and other java applications
> 2 cpu 5620 / 24 GB RAM
>
> I searched the web about performance and portability for these applications
> on FreeBSD, but I could not find any clear article about my doubts, that's
> why I'm asking for your help.
>
> Question #1: Is anyone running Coldfusion on FreeBSD? It looks like Adobe
> only supports Red Had and SuSe.
>
> Question #2: Is the JVM implementation for FreeBSD reliable and fast? Most
> of my software components are made in Java (including HSQDB)
>
> Question #3: I read a lot of old posts saying that the overall performance
> of Postgres under FreeBSD is better than on some Linux distributions. Is
> this still valid for the current versions?
>
> I appreciate your valuable time for reading this and for helping me.
>
> Thanks a lot
>
> Rodrigo
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Re: Coldfusion, Postgres and Java under FreeBSD

[Michael J. Kearney]

Most .config files use the linux subsystem. . And the jre requires the proc 
filesystem. .. you dont have to run fbsd atm

Rodrigo Freitas  wrote:


Dear friends,

I've been studying/researching to understand what is the best OS for my
production environment.
I didn't know FreeBSD until this need, and now I'm fascinated with the stuff
I've been reading about it.
I have 2 servers with the following SW/HW:

Server 1:
Postgres 9
HSQLDB (Java)
2 cpu 5620 / 48 GB RAM

Server 2:
Coldfusion 9 and other java applications
2 cpu 5620 / 24 GB RAM

I searched the web about performance and portability for these applications
on FreeBSD, but I could not find any clear article about my doubts, that's
why I'm asking for your help.

Question #1: Is anyone running Coldfusion on FreeBSD? It looks like Adobe
only supports Red Had and SuSe.

Question #2: Is the JVM implementation for FreeBSD reliable and fast? Most
of my software components are made in Java (including HSQDB)

Question #3: I read a lot of old posts saying that the overall performance
of Postgres under FreeBSD is better than on some Linux distributions. Is
this still valid for the current versions?

I appreciate your valuable time for reading this and for helping me.

Thanks a lot

Rodrigo
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Coldfusion, Postgres and Java under FreeBSD

[Rodrigo Freitas]

Dear friends,

I've been studying/researching to understand what is the best OS for my
production environment.
I didn't know FreeBSD until this need, and now I'm fascinated with the stuff
I've been reading about it.
I have 2 servers with the following SW/HW:

Server 1:
Postgres 9
HSQLDB (Java)
2 cpu 5620 / 48 GB RAM

Server 2:
Coldfusion 9 and other java applications
2 cpu 5620 / 24 GB RAM

I searched the web about performance and portability for these applications
on FreeBSD, but I could not find any clear article about my doubts, that's
why I'm asking for your help.

Question #1: Is anyone running Coldfusion on FreeBSD? It looks like Adobe
only supports Red Had and SuSe.

Question #2: Is the JVM implementation for FreeBSD reliable and fast? Most
of my software components are made in Java (including HSQDB)

Question #3: I read a lot of old posts saying that the overall performance
of Postgres under FreeBSD is better than on some Linux distributions. Is
this still valid for the current versions?

I appreciate your valuable time for reading this and for helping me.

Thanks a lot

Rodrigo
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Re: Building Java

[Patrick Lamaiziere]

Le Sat, 26 Feb 2011 08:43:36 -0800,
"Jason C. Wells"  a écrit :

Hello,

(java tzupdaters)
> Never mind.  I did a little URL edit and got the file.

You can also build the port without the option TZUPDATE.

Regards.
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Re: Building Java

[Jason C. Wells]

Never mind.  I did a little URL edit and got the file.

Jason
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Re: Building Java

[Jason C. Wells]

On 02/26/11 08:19, Jason C. Wells wrote:
Trying to build java.  Oracle has change tzupdater to 1.3.35.  Ports 
calls for 1.3.34.  Oracle provides 1.3.35 if you register for their 
support portal.  The support portal is behind a flash sniffer that 
won't let you in without flash. g!


Can someone please just point me to a bootleg copy of the java sources?

Thanks,
Jason C. Wells

Whoops.  That should read "Oracle provides 1.1.34 only if you register."

Jason
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Building Java

[Jason C. Wells]

Trying to build java.  Oracle has change tzupdater to 1.3.35.  Ports 
calls for 1.3.34.  Oracle provides 1.3.35 if you register for their 
support portal.  The support portal is behind a flash sniffer that won't 
let you in without flash. g!


Can someone please just point me to a bootleg copy of the java sources?

Thanks,
Jason C. Wells
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Re: Firefox 3.6 and Java ?

[Richard T C Farnes]

On Wednesday 29 December 2010 17:56:03 John Levine wrote:
> I gather that Firefox 3.6 still doesn't work with Java, since the
> glue hasn't been updated.  Is anyone likely to be working on this?
>
> I'm willing in principle, although my knowledge of both Firefox and
> Java internals is, ah, somewhat limited.
>
> R's,
> John
>
>I also have this problem with the installation of Firefox. The installation 
process searches for files which it cannot find. When I search for  them on 
websites for Java I cannot find some of the particular files it asks for. It   
seems that the version of Firefox I find  for FreeBSD is not  the latest 
Firefox version. So it wants java programmes that are too old  and not found 
on the java websites anymore. 
Richard.
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Re: Firefox 3.6 and Java ?

[John Levine]

>> I gather that Firefox 3.6 still doesn't work with Java, since the
>> glue hasn't been updated.  Is anyone likely to be working on this?
>
>java/openjdk6 WITH_WEB will give you the plugin to use with www/firefox.

I'm trying to build openjdk6 on amd64 8.1-RELEASE, and I'm getting
build errors.  I did make config and turned on the WEB option, then make.

One error went away when I installed libXtst, but there's another near
the end of the build when it's trying to build icedtea and it can't
find nsThreadUtils.h.  That appears to be a firefox36 file, and I see
it's installed, but the includes are messed up or something.

Any suggestions?
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Re: Firefox 3.6 and Java ?

[Jan Henrik Sylvester]

On 01/-10/-28163 20:59, John Levine wrote:

I gather that Firefox 3.6 still doesn't work with Java, since the
glue hasn't been updated.  Is anyone likely to be working on this?


java/openjdk6 WITH_WEB will give you the plugin to use with www/firefox.

You just have to enable it manually:

cd ~/.mozilla/plugins/ && ln -s /usr/local/openjdk6/jre/lib/IcedTeaPlugin.so

Cheers,
Jan Henrik
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Re: Firefox 3.6 and Java ?

[Jan Henrik Sylvester]

On 01/-10/-28163 20:59, John Levine wrote:

I gather that Firefox 3.6 still doesn't work with Java, since the
glue hasn't been updated.  Is anyone likely to be working on this?


java/openjdk6 WITH_WEB will give you the plugin to use with www/firefox.

You just have to enable it manually:

cd ~/.mozilla/plugins/ && ln -s /usr/local/openjdk6/jre/lib/IcedTeaPlugin.so

Cheers,
Jan Henrik
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Firefox 3.6 and Java ?

[John Levine]

I gather that Firefox 3.6 still doesn't work with Java, since the
glue hasn't been updated.  Is anyone likely to be working on this?

I'm willing in principle, although my knowledge of both Firefox and
Java internals is, ah, somewhat limited.

R's,
John


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Re: java

[Rob Farmer]

On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 16:59, xinyou yan  wrote:
> $javac helloworld.java     //No problem
> $java   helloworld.class

It should be "java helloworld" (no extension).

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java

[xinyou yan]

I have installed jdk
Here is  helloword.java

 class helloworld{
  2 public static void main(String[] args){
  3 System.out.println("hello world !");
  4 }
  5 }

$javac helloworld.java //No problem
$java   helloworld.class
  //Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:helloworld/class


$ java -version
Diablo Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_07-b02)
Diablo Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 10.0-b23, mixed mode)


May be should reset ClassPath , add . to path?
I have no idea.

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Re: Erlang and Java

[Chad Perrin]

On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 09:50:02AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote:
> Quoth Chad Perrin on Friday, 24 September 2010:
> > Does anyone know of a reason that installing lang/erlang would fail if a
> > java/diablo-jdk port failed to install?  Correct me if I'm wrong, but the
> > Erlang VM really should *not* depend on Java.  Right?
> 
> Looking at the Makefile, it appears that WITHOUT_JAVA needs to be
> defined to avoid a dependency.
> 
> Looks likle that option is part of the config.
> 
> make rmconfig
> make install clean
> 
> then make sure the first option is unchecked.

Hmm.  This did not come up in any configuration screens when I used
portinstall to try installing it, as far as I recall.  Annoying.

Thanks.  It seems to be working now.

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Re: Erlang and Java

[Chip Camden]

Quoth Chad Perrin on Friday, 24 September 2010:
> Does anyone know of a reason that installing lang/erlang would fail if a
> java/diablo-jdk port failed to install?  Correct me if I'm wrong, but the
> Erlang VM really should *not* depend on Java.  Right?
> 
> -- 
> Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]

Looking at the Makefile, it appears that WITHOUT_JAVA needs to be
defined to avoid a dependency.

Looks likle that option is part of the config.

make rmconfig
make install clean

then make sure the first option is unchecked.

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Re: Erlang and Java

[zaxis]

Erlang doesnot depend on java.  I have installed erlang sucessfully just by
`make install clean` without java.


Chad Perrin wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know of a reason that installing lang/erlang would fail if a
> java/diablo-jdk port failed to install?  Correct me if I'm wrong, but the
> Erlang VM really should *not* depend on Java.  Right?
> 
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> 
>  
> 


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Erlang and Java

[Chad Perrin]

Does anyone know of a reason that installing lang/erlang would fail if a
java/diablo-jdk port failed to install?  Correct me if I'm wrong, but the
Erlang VM really should *not* depend on Java.  Right?

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RE: Status of Java in FreeBSD? (OpenSolaris is dead)

[Mikhail]

> -Original Message-
> From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-
> questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Roland Smith
> Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 12:50 AM
> To: Kurt Buff
> Cc: FreeBSD Questions
> Subject: Re: Status of Java in FreeBSD? (OpenSolaris is dead)
> 
> On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:58:01PM -0700, Kurt Buff wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:57, Roland Smith  wrote:
> > > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 07:59:20PM +0200, Antonio Vieiro wrote:
> > >> Hi all,
> > >>
> > >> Now that OpenSolaris is dead [1] I was wondering what the status of
> Java
> > >> is in FreeBSD.
> > >> [1] http://sstallion.blogspot.com/2010/08/opensolaris-is-dead.html
> > >
> > > IMO the "status" of Java is "best to avoid it". Just ask Google. :-)
> >
> > So, what do you suggest for SSL VPN clients? Some/most/all of the
> > clients for these things are Java-based - well, except for clients
> > running Windows and for which there is (usually) an ActiveX control
> > (shudder.)
> 
> If I read [2] correctly, isn't SSL VPN supposed to be clientless and work
> through the browser?
> 
> [2]: http://www.windowsecurity.com/articles/VPN-Options.html

Yeah, but when you want to launch any application through WebVPN (telnet for
example) you have to start Java applet.

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Re: Status of Java in FreeBSD? (OpenSolaris is dead)

[Gary Kline]

On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 08:57:08PM +0200, Roland Smith wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 07:59:20PM +0200, Antonio Vieiro wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > Now that OpenSolaris is dead [1] I was wondering what the status of Java 
> > is in FreeBSD.
> > [1] http://sstallion.blogspot.com/2010/08/opensolaris-is-dead.html
> 
> IMO the "status" of Java is "best to avoid it". Just ask Google. :-)
> 
> > I'm currently using OpenJDK16 from ports. Is OpenJDK free from Oracle 
> > hands or not?
> 
> Depends what you mean by free. It's under the GPLv2, so I think you should be
> good wrt copyrights. 
> 
> Patents might be different matter, though! To the best of my knowledge, the EU
> law doesn't allow patenting software. But if you really want to know where you
> stand you should consult a lawyer who knows Spanish and EU patent law.
> 
> People in the US could very well be screwed, however. OTOH, Oracle's lawsuit
> against Google over Android could potentially lead to the patents asserted in
> that case being found invalid.

y're right on your last paragraph.  i think/hope that oracle's fist
fight leads to their quicker bankruptcy... to which they've been
headed for quite some time.  
> 
> Roland
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Re: Status of Java in FreeBSD? (OpenSolaris is dead)

[Roland Smith]

On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:58:01PM -0700, Kurt Buff wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:57, Roland Smith  wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 07:59:20PM +0200, Antonio Vieiro wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Now that OpenSolaris is dead [1] I was wondering what the status of Java
> >> is in FreeBSD.
> >> [1] http://sstallion.blogspot.com/2010/08/opensolaris-is-dead.html
> >
> > IMO the "status" of Java is "best to avoid it". Just ask Google. :-)
> 
> So, what do you suggest for SSL VPN clients? Some/most/all of the
> clients for these things are Java-based - well, except for clients
> running Windows and for which there is (usually) an ActiveX control
> (shudder.)

If I read [2] correctly, isn't SSL VPN supposed to be clientless and work
through the browser?

[2]: http://www.windowsecurity.com/articles/VPN-Options.html

> That's just the most interesting one to me, but OOo also relies on
> Java for some functionality (thought that's somewhat a Sun/Oracle
> effort too, and one wonders about its fate also) and there are other
> applications for which Java is a critical component.

According to [3], some OpenOffice functionality depends on Java, but it can be
built without it. I hacked the OOO (2.x IIRC) port to that effect once, but I
deleted it since I didn't use it much. Personally I prefer Emacs, LaTeX and
assorted scripting languages. :-)

[3]: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Java_and_OpenOffice.org

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Re: Status of Java in FreeBSD? (OpenSolaris is dead)

[Kurt Buff]

On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:57, Roland Smith  wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 07:59:20PM +0200, Antonio Vieiro wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Now that OpenSolaris is dead [1] I was wondering what the status of Java
>> is in FreeBSD.
>> [1] http://sstallion.blogspot.com/2010/08/opensolaris-is-dead.html
>
> IMO the "status" of Java is "best to avoid it". Just ask Google. :-)

So, what do you suggest for SSL VPN clients? Some/most/all of the
clients for these things are Java-based - well, except for clients
running Windows and for which there is (usually) an ActiveX control
(shudder.)

That's just the most interesting one to me, but OOo also relies on
Java for some functionality (thought that's somewhat a Sun/Oracle
effort too, and one wonders about its fate also) and there are other
applications for which Java is a critical component.

Kurt
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Re: Status of Java in FreeBSD? (OpenSolaris is dead)

[Antonio Vieiro]

On 13/08/2010 20:57, Roland Smith wrote:

On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 07:59:20PM +0200, Antonio Vieiro wrote:



I'm currently using OpenJDK16 from ports. Is OpenJDK free from Oracle
hands or not?


Depends what you mean by free. It's under the GPLv2, so I think you should be
good wrt copyrights.


I think that the Diablo JVM has Sun source code [1], and this is 
released under a partner agreement or something, so I imagine Oracle 
could shut it down as well, right?


OpenJDK is under GPLV2, but I'm not sure it covers the whole JVM. I'll 
try to find out.


Thanks,
Antonio

[1] http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/downloads/java.shtml



Patents might be different matter, though! To the best of my knowledge, the EU
law doesn't allow patenting software. But if you really want to know where you
stand you should consult a lawyer who knows Spanish and EU patent law.

People in the US could very well be screwed, however. OTOH, Oracle's lawsuit
against Google over Android could potentially lead to the patents asserted in
that case being found invalid

Roland


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Re: Status of Java in FreeBSD? (OpenSolaris is dead)

[Roland Smith]

On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 07:59:20PM +0200, Antonio Vieiro wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Now that OpenSolaris is dead [1] I was wondering what the status of Java 
> is in FreeBSD.
> [1] http://sstallion.blogspot.com/2010/08/opensolaris-is-dead.html

IMO the "status" of Java is "best to avoid it". Just ask Google. :-)

> I'm currently using OpenJDK16 from ports. Is OpenJDK free from Oracle 
> hands or not?

Depends what you mean by free. It's under the GPLv2, so I think you should be
good wrt copyrights. 

Patents might be different matter, though! To the best of my knowledge, the EU
law doesn't allow patenting software. But if you really want to know where you
stand you should consult a lawyer who knows Spanish and EU patent law.

People in the US could very well be screwed, however. OTOH, Oracle's lawsuit
against Google over Android could potentially lead to the patents asserted in
that case being found invalid.

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Re: Status of Java in FreeBSD? (OpenSolaris is dead)

[nux]

Antonio Vieiro writes:


Hi all,

Now that OpenSolaris is dead [1] I was wondering what the status of Java 
is in FreeBSD.


But there is hope: 
http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Illumos-launched-as-OpenSolaris-deriv 
ative-1050151.html




I'm currently using OpenJDK16 from ports. Is OpenJDK free from Oracle 
hands or not? Would it be possible it dissappearing from the ports 
because of licensing/patent issues? If so, what are the open-source 
alternatives?


Thanks,
Antonio

[1] http://sstallion.blogspot.com/2010/08/opensolaris-is-dead.html
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Status of Java in FreeBSD? (OpenSolaris is dead)

[Antonio Vieiro]

Hi all,

Now that OpenSolaris is dead [1] I was wondering what the status of Java 
is in FreeBSD.


I'm currently using OpenJDK16 from ports. Is OpenJDK free from Oracle 
hands or not? Would it be possible it dissappearing from the ports 
because of licensing/patent issues? If so, what are the open-source 
alternatives?


Thanks,
Antonio

[1] http://sstallion.blogspot.com/2010/08/opensolaris-is-dead.html
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thread cpu time measurement is not supported (java application weka error message)

[Dino Vliet]

Folks,
when running an experiment in weka in freebsd ports I get this error:
thread cpu time measurement is not supported
In the console I see this:
ava.lang.UnsupportedOperationException: Thread CPU time measurement is not 
supported        
sun.management.ThreadImpl.isThreadCpuTimeEnabled(ThreadImpl.java:80)        
weka.experiment.ClassifierSplitEvaluator.getResult(ClassifierSplitEvaluator.java:685)  
      
weka.experiment.CrossValidationResultProducer.doRun(CrossValidationResultProducer.java:367)  
      
weka.experiment.AveragingResultProducer.doRun(AveragingResultProducer.java:296)  
      weka.experiment.Experiment.nextIteration(Experiment.java:539)        
weka.gui.experiment.RunPanel$ExperimentRunner.run(RunPanel.java:181)
        at 
sun.management.ThreadImpl.isThreadCpuTimeEnabled(ThreadImpl.java:80)        at 
weka.experiment.ClassifierSplitEvaluator.getResult(ClassifierSplitEvaluator.java:685)  
      at 
weka.experiment.CrossValidationResultProducer.doRun(CrossValidationResultProducer.java:367)  
      at 
weka.experiment.AveragingResultProducer.doRun(AveragingResultProducer.java:296)  
      at weka.experiment.Experiment.nextIteration(Experiment.java:539)        
at weka.gui.experiment.RunPanel$ExperimentRunner.run(RunPanel.java:181)Done...
My java environment is:
weka-3.6.3javavmwrapper-2.3.5jdk-1.6.0.3p4_15
What seems to be the problem here?



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Re: Unabel to download Java Patch from http://www.eyesbeyond.com/

[Pieter de Goeje]

On Wednesday 21 July 2010 10:37:54 Martin Schweizer wrote:
> Since some days I tried to download the latest Java patch from
> http://www.eyesbeyond.com/. But the site is not reachable. I tried it from
> a europe and from us server but no luck. Do you have any ideas?

I can recommend installing openjdk16 instead of jdk16. It is a much more 
recent version of Java.

- Pieter
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Unabel to download Java Patch from http://www.eyesbeyond.com/

[Martin Schweizer]

Hello 

Since some days I tried to download the latest Java patch from 
http://www.eyesbeyond.com/. But the site is not reachable. I tried it from a 
europe and from 
us server but no luck. Do you have any ideas?

Regards,


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java citrix client on seamonkey

[Andrew Gould]

I'm trying to access applications on my employer's network via Citrix.
 I'm using seamonkey as my browser on FreeBSD 7.3 Release.  I have
installed diablo-jdk-freebsd7.i386.1.6.0.07.02.tbz. and the
icedtea6-stubs package.

My employer's website for Citrix access facilitates the installation
of the Java client for Citrix.  When I try to open an application, I
get a message stating that I haven't chosen to trust GlobalSign Root
CA.  I installed the certificates in seamonkey; but I still get the
error message.  The details of the error are here:

x.sdk.jsse.CitrixSSLException: You have not chosen to trust
"GlobalSign Root CA", the issuer of the server's security certificate.
at com.citrix.sdk.jsse.SocketFactory.createSslSocket(Unknown Source)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at 
sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39)
at 
sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:597)
at com.citrix.client.io.net.ip.proxy.o.a(Unknown Source)
at com.citrix.client.io.net.ip.z.a(Unknown Source)
at com.citrix.client.io.net.ip.z.a(Unknown Source)
at com.citrix.client.module.td.tcp.TCPTransportDriver.s(Unknown Source)
at com.citrix.client.module.td.TransportDriver.run(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:619)
Caused by: javax.net.ssl.SSLHandshakeException: com.citrix.sdk.jsse.i
at com.sun.net.ssl.internal.ssl.Alerts.getSSLException(Alerts.java:174)
at 
com.sun.net.ssl.internal.ssl.SSLSocketImpl.fatal(SSLSocketImpl.java:1591)
at com.sun.net.ssl.internal.ssl.Handshaker.fatalSE(Handshaker.java:187)
at com.sun.net.ssl.internal.ssl.Handshaker.fatalSE(Handshaker.java:181)
at 
com.sun.net.ssl.internal.ssl.ClientHandshaker.serverCertificate(ClientHandshaker.java:975)
at 
com.sun.net.ssl.internal.ssl.ClientHandshaker.processMessage(ClientHandshaker.java:123)
at 
com.sun.net.ssl.internal.ssl.Handshaker.processLoop(Handshaker.java:516)
at 
com.sun.net.ssl.internal.ssl.Handshaker.process_record(Handshaker.java:454)
at 
com.sun.net.ssl.internal.ssl.SSLSocketImpl.readRecord(SSLSocketImpl.java:884)
at 
com.sun.net.ssl.internal.ssl.SSLSocketImpl.performInitialHandshake(SSLSocketImpl.java:1096)
at 
com.sun.net.ssl.internal.ssl.SSLSocketImpl.startHandshake(SSLSocketImpl.java:1123)
at 
com.sun.net.ssl.internal.ssl.SSLSocketImpl.startHandshake(SSLSocketImpl.java:1107)
... 11 more
Caused by: com.citrix.sdk.jsse.i
at com.citrix.sdk.jsse.a.a(Unknown Source)
at com.citrix.sdk.jsse.a.a(Unknown Source)
at com.citrix.sdk.jsse.a.a(Unknown Source)
at com.citrix.sdk.jsse.c.checkServerTrusted(Unknown Source)
at 
com.sun.net.ssl.internal.ssl.ClientHandshaker.serverCertificate(ClientHandshaker.java:967)
... 18 more

Does this mean the certificate(s) need to be installed somewhere in
Java?  If so does anyone know how to do this?

I had the same problem on Xubuntu 9.10 but success on Xubuntu 10.4
using seamonkey, openjdk and the icedtea plugin.  I would have tried
using openjdk on FreeBSD; but I didn't know if it would do any good
(or cause problems) since icedtea6-stubs requires diablo.

Thanks,

Andrew
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Re: Java plugin with Firefox 3.6

[Ian Smith]

In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 314, Issue 3, Message: 22
On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 16:08:34 -0400 Jerry  wrote:
 > On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 01:13:01 +1000 (EST)
 > Ian Smith  articulated:
 > 
 > > In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 314, Issue 1, Message: 33
 > > On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 06:08:24 -0400 Jerry 
 > > wrote:
 > >  > On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 07:50:04 +0200
 > >  > Harry Matthiesen Jensen  articulated:
 > >  > 
 > >  > 
 > >  > > On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 12:20:08AM +, Márcio C.G. wrote:
 > >  > > > 
 > >  > > > As this link (http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=10570)
 > >  > > > says, JAVA PLUGIN WONT WORK WITH FIREFOX 3.6. I tried to use
 > >  > > > linux-sun-jdk16 port, but the plugin didn t work too. Is there
 > >  > > > an workaround or anybody that knows how-to use java plugin
 > >  > > > within firefox 3.6?
 > >  > > > 
 > >  > > 
 > >  > > I just "portinstall firefox3", which right now will give you
 > >  > > Firefox 3.5.9, and java works ;-)
 > >  > 
 > >  > The OP requested help with Firefox-3.6, not with older deprecated
 > >  > versions. Perhaps when version '4' is released, support for Java in
 > >  > '3.6.x' will become available.
 > > 
 > > Dear Jerry,

Ok, you whinged and I had a dig.  I got deservedly walloped myself not 
long ago for whining about something likely within my power to help ..

 > I honestly enjoy satire. That said, it does not change the fact that a
 > serviceable version of Java, suitable for Firefox-3.6, does not exist
 > within the FreeBSD framework. A quick investigation of other operating
 > systems would seem to indicate that FreeBSD is virtually alone in this
 > regards. Now, I am sure that you have personally seen the white sheet
 > detailing the technical reasons for this and will be willing to share
 > it with me and perhaps others who might also be curious about the lack
 > of said product.

.. so I deserve a bit of sarcasm :)  My point was that, with exception 
of projects sponsored by the Foundation and work sponsored by various 
firms that simply need to get certain things done, FreeBSD isn't like a 
company in any position to 'put some people onto' any desired features; 
things happen when someone/s put _themselves_ onto it, because they want 
to see it happen, and enjoy the challenges of practicing their arts.

Check out what Sun and indirectly Mozilla have to say about this:

Why do I need Java 6 Update 10 and above for Firefox 3.6 and later 
versions?
http://java.com/en/download/faq/firefox_newplugin.xml

What are the features and enhancements in the latest release of Java 
6 Update10 (6u10)? 
http://java.com/en/download/help/features_java6update10.xml

The 'features and enhancements' seem to be mostly about making updating 
easier on Windows, and because they've _chosen_ to drop support for the 
'classic' way of identifying the JRE in use pre 3.6.0, they've _chosen_ 
to employ a level of instant obsolescence and forced upgrade that Adobe 
might be proud of.  That's a big change from 3.5.x, and one that would 
be considered an ABI change requiring a new major version in FreeBSD.

So as Chuck Swiger rightly said, if latest Firefox+Java matters to you, 
FreeBSD isn't the right solution just now .. until it matters enough to 
someone/s to make what seem likely very non-trivial changes to our Java 
and how it integrates with our kernel and userland.  Way, way beyond me.

 > Now, I assume that you are familiar with the nVidia 64 bit drivers and
 > FreeBSD. It took years for that to be rectified. Based on that past
 > experience, I feel that stating that Firefox-4 might well be released
 > before a serviceable Java is available for version 3.6+ is a real
 > possibility.

As I recall, nVidia required kernel changes in FreeBSD that had to wait 
for a major version bump (ie, to 8.x) to make it into a release version?

 > Your commentary does serve to prove a very real point however. To wit:
 > 
 > Pointing out or stating a problem with a Microsoft product is
 > insightful, constructive criticism; however, doing the same for an open
 > source product is destructive, counter productive, flame bait.

Microsoft is a company with massive resources to throw at any problems 
(or new means of cornering markets :) and people pay real money to use 
their products, so can at least hope for some sort of service on demand.

The contrast with FreeBSD couldn't be much more stark, could it Jerry?  

If you want something fixed you a) do it yourself; b) work with other 
people who are doing it; c) offer to help test and debug and/or document 
development or 

Re: Java plugin with Firefox 3.6

[C. P. Ghost]

On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 4:19 PM,   wrote:
> Firefox 3.6 needs Java 6 Update 10. [1]
>
> For now, as a newbie, I generally try not to install anything not in the
> ports collection. From there you can find some JREs, but none are at Update
> 10, including Linux emulation. [2] At this time, the highest I see there is
> diablo-jre-1.6.0.07.02_8.
>
> That's okay, I really wanted the full JDK anyway, so I look for that. [3]
> There appears to be four flavors available; diablo-jdk, openjdk, jdk and
> linux-sun-jdk:
>
> diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02_9
> openjdk-7.0.86 (requires diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02_9)
> jdk-1.6.0.3p4_15 (requires diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02_9, and is "based on
> 1.6.0_03 (aka 6u3)")
> linux-sun-jdk-1.6.0.20

The problem is that java/jdk16 hasn't been updated for a LONG
time. I gave up hope that it will be updated, and I've had to install
java/openjdk6 instead, just to be able to start Freenet (from
http://freenetproject.org/), because Freenet wouldn't start otherwise
due to some big XML vulnerability in our old not yet updated
java/jdk16.

Maybe the problem is similar with Firefox 3.6?

> It looks like the Linux version is the only one up-to-date enough for
> Firefox 3.6. Would that only work with the Linux version of Firefox 3.6? If
> so, then one must go outside of the ports collection to get it. [4] At this
> time, the highest version I see in ports is linux-firefox-devel-3.5.9.
>
>
> I suspect the best thing to do would be to go with a current JDK and an
> older version of (native) Firefox, and not upgrade Firefox until the JDK
> version gets to Java 6 Update 10, allowing the JDK to upgrade naturally
> along with the rest of keeping my system up to date. If folks in-the-know
> around here agree with that, I'll probably start a new thread 'Which JDK?',
> as I find that confusing.
>
> Thanks,
> Brian

-cpghost.

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Re: Java plugin with Firefox 3.6

[bdsfbsd]

On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 17:24:47 -0400, Chuck Swiger  wrote:


On Jun 7, 2010, at 1:08 PM, Jerry wrote:
[ ... ]
I honestly enjoy satire. That said, it does not change the fact that a  
serviceable version of Java, suitable for Firefox-3.6, does not exist  
within the FreeBSD framework.


That's pretty much accurate, if you don't want to consider running  
FF+Java under Linux emulation.

[ ... ]


High-level religious arguments aside, could we get a little advice the for  
newbie who wants to try using FreeBSD, but needs Java to work with  
Firefox? (As this is the 'questions' list, and not the 'debate what fBSD  
devs ought to be working on' list.)


Here's what I know, for posterity sake..

Firefox 3.6 needs Java 6 Update 10. [1]

For now, as a newbie, I generally try not to install anything not in the  
ports collection. From there you can find some JREs, but none are at  
Update 10, including Linux emulation. [2] At this time, the highest I see  
there is diablo-jre-1.6.0.07.02_8.


That's okay, I really wanted the full JDK anyway, so I look for that. [3]  
There appears to be four flavors available; diablo-jdk, openjdk, jdk and  
linux-sun-jdk:


diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02_9
openjdk-7.0.86 (requires diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02_9)
jdk-1.6.0.3p4_15 (requires diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02_9, and is "based on  
1.6.0_03 (aka 6u3)")

linux-sun-jdk-1.6.0.20

It looks like the Linux version is the only one up-to-date enough for  
Firefox 3.6. Would that only work with the Linux version of Firefox 3.6?  
If so, then one must go outside of the ports collection to get it. [4] At  
this time, the highest version I see in ports is linux-firefox-devel-3.5.9.



I suspect the best thing to do would be to go with a current JDK and an  
older version of (native) Firefox, and not upgrade Firefox until the JDK  
version gets to Java 6 Update 10, allowing the JDK to upgrade naturally  
along with the rest of keeping my system up to date. If folks in-the-know  
around here agree with that, I'll probably start a new thread 'Which  
JDK?', as I find that confusing.


Thanks,
Brian

[1] http://java.com/en/download/faq/firefox_newplugin.xml
[2] http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=jre
[3] http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=jdk&sektion=java
[4] http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=linux-firefox
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Re: Java plugin with Firefox 3.6

[Chuck Swiger]

On Jun 7, 2010, at 1:08 PM, Jerry wrote:
[ ... ]
> I honestly enjoy satire. That said, it does not change the fact that a 
> serviceable version of Java, suitable for Firefox-3.6, does not exist within 
> the FreeBSD framework.

That's pretty much accurate, if you don't want to consider running FF+Java 
under Linux emulation.  

> A quick investigation of other operating systems would seem to indicate that 
> FreeBSD is virtually alone in this regards.

The JRE from java.sun.com has binaries for Linux, Solaris, and Windows-- which 
are the officially supported Java platforms-- and one could add Apple's MacOSX. 
 If you are running FreeBSD, Plan 9, HP/UX, IRIX, AIX, or anything else, Java 
is not going to be nearly as well-supported.

If Java is critical to you, seriously consider using another platform.

> Now, I assume that you are familiar with the nVidia 64 bit drivers and
> FreeBSD. It took years for that to be rectified. Based on that past
> experience, I feel that stating that Firefox-4 might well be released
> before a serviceable Java is available for version 3.6+ is a real
> possibility.

That's entirely possible.

> Your commentary does serve to prove a very real point however. To wit:
> 
> Pointing out or stating a problem with a Microsoft product is
> insightful, constructive criticism; however, doing the same for an open
> source product is destructive, counter productive, flame bait.

Like many things, different people's motives and perspective tend to shape how 
they perceive the same set of underlying facts.

> Seriously Ian, I question whether the FreeBSD authors are more
> interested in bumping version numbers than they are in producing a
> fully serviceable, quality product.

The two aren't closely related.  Major version # bumps in commercial software 
often happen because the vendor wants to sell upgrade licenses, but that 
motivation simply doesn't apply to FreeBSD.  Major version # bumps happen in 
FreeBSD primarily because of major API changes which end up making an entirely 
new version of userland libc & other libraries desirable.  

> When was the last time you tried getting a native FreeBSD driver for an 'N' 
> class USB wireless device?

Never.  The only 'N' device I have around is a Macbook Pro, and that's running 
the vendor-supplied driver which came with the device.

> Drivers for chips over a year old don't exist. It just seems to
> me that the priority should be on getting the present product fully
> functional rather than simply bumping version numbers. Then again, that
> is just my 2₵.

Hopefully you get your money's worth.

Regards,
-- 
-Chuck

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Re: Java plugin with Firefox 3.6

[Jerry]

On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 01:13:01 +1000 (EST)
Ian Smith  articulated:


> In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 314, Issue 1, Message: 33
> On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 06:08:24 -0400 Jerry 
> wrote:
>  > On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 07:50:04 +0200
>  > Harry Matthiesen Jensen  articulated:
>  > 
>  > 
>  > > On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 12:20:08AM +, Márcio C.G. wrote:
>  > > > 
>  > > > As this link (http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=10570)
>  > > > says, JAVA PLUGIN WONT WORK WITH FIREFOX 3.6. I tried to use
>  > > > linux-sun-jdk16 port, but the plugin didn t work too. Is there
>  > > > an workaround or anybody that knows how-to use java plugin
>  > > > within firefox 3.6?
>  > > > 
>  > > 
>  > > I just "portinstall firefox3", which right now will give you
>  > > Firefox 3.5.9, and java works ;-)
>  > 
>  > The OP requested help with Firefox-3.6, not with older deprecated
>  > versions. Perhaps when version '4' is released, support for Java in
>  > '3.6.x' will become available.
> 
> Dear Jerry,
> 
> as CEO of FreeBSD Multinational Corporation Incorporated, please
> allow me to personally apologise for this unforgiveable lapse by our
> 'Keep FreeBSD 100% Firefox-Compatible' Department; trust me, heads
> will roll.
> 
> Unfortunately, I'm so high up in the hierarchy that I'm rarely
> familiar with the names of those minions down on the 13th floor hired
> to do the actual programming.  It would be most helpful if you could
> apportion blame directly to those individual/s responsible; otherwise
> I'll have to work through layers of department heads, middle
> management, team leaders and such, and you know how they can close
> ranks in a crisis.  It may take some time, but rest assured we'll
> catch and fire him, her or them!
> 
> Thank you for your patience during our investigation of your
> complaint. If still dissatisfied, of course I shall personally
> authorise the full refund of your purchase price.

I honestly enjoy satire. That said, it does not change the fact that a
serviceable version of Java, suitable for Firefox-3.6, does not exist
within the FreeBSD framework. A quick investigation of other operating
systems would seem to indicate that FreeBSD is virtually alone in this
regards. Now, I am sure that you have personally seen the white sheet
detailing the technical reasons for this and will be willing to share
it with me and perhaps others who might also be curious about the lack
of said product.

Now, I assume that you are familiar with the nVidia 64 bit drivers and
FreeBSD. It took years for that to be rectified. Based on that past
experience, I feel that stating that Firefox-4 might well be released
before a serviceable Java is available for version 3.6+ is a real
possibility.

Your commentary does serve to prove a very real point however. To wit:

Pointing out or stating a problem with a Microsoft product is
insightful, constructive criticism; however, doing the same for an open
source product is destructive, counter productive, flame bait.

Seriously Ian, I question whether the FreeBSD authors are more
interested in bumping version numbers than they are in producing a
fully serviceable, quality product. When was the last time you tried
getting a native FreeBSD driver for an  'N' class USB wireless
device? Drivers for chips over a year old don't exist. It just seems to
me that the priority should be on getting the present product fully
functional rather than simply bumping version numbers. Then again, that
is just my 2₵.

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RE: Java plugin with Firefox 3.6

[Márcio C . G .]

>As this link (http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=10570) says, JAVA 
>PLUGIN WONT WORK WITH FIREFOX 3.6.
>I tried to use linux-sun-jdk16 port, but the plugin didn t work too.
>Is there an workaround or anybody that knows how-to use java plugin within 
>firefox 3.6?
 
>Thanks in advance,
 
>Marcio C. Goulart
 I'm just trying to figure out some way to make the plugin available in 
linux-sun-jdk16 work within Firefox 3.6. If it works in Firefox under Linux, 
probably should work with FreeBSD+Firefox 3.6+linuxulator etc. I guess.
If someone got an idea in that way, I would appreciate that.

Thanks in advace,

Márcio C. Goulart.
  
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Re: Java plugin with Firefox 3.6

[bdsfbsd]

On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 06:46:16 -0400, Harry Matthiesen Jensen
 wrote:


The short answer would be "not yet possible" or "just wait, will come
later"... which in my "world" not is an answer anyone can use..



I've been looking for some indication as to how much later "later" is..  
one week, one month, one year..?


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Re: Java plugin with Firefox 3.6

[Ian Smith]

In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 314, Issue 1, Message: 33
On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 06:08:24 -0400 Jerry  wrote:
 > On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 07:50:04 +0200
 > Harry Matthiesen Jensen  articulated:
 > 
 > 
 > > On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 12:20:08AM +, Márcio C.G. wrote:
 > > > 
 > > > As this link (http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=10570)
 > > > says, JAVA PLUGIN WONT WORK WITH FIREFOX 3.6. I tried to use
 > > > linux-sun-jdk16 port, but the plugin didn t work too. Is there an
 > > > workaround or anybody that knows how-to use java plugin within
 > > > firefox 3.6?
 > > > 
 > > 
 > > I just "portinstall firefox3", which right now will give you Firefox
 > > 3.5.9, and java works ;-)
 > 
 > The OP requested help with Firefox-3.6, not with older deprecated
 > versions. Perhaps when version '4' is released, support for Java in
 > '3.6.x' will become available.

Dear Jerry,

as CEO of FreeBSD Multinational Corporation Incorporated, please allow 
me to personally apologise for this unforgiveable lapse by our 'Keep 
FreeBSD 100% Firefox-Compatible' Department; trust me, heads will roll.

Unfortunately, I'm so high up in the hierarchy that I'm rarely familiar 
with the names of those minions down on the 13th floor hired to do the 
actual programming.  It would be most helpful if you could apportion 
blame directly to those individual/s responsible; otherwise I'll have to 
work through layers of department heads, middle management, team leaders 
and such, and you know how they can close ranks in a crisis.  It may 
take some time, but rest assured we'll catch and fire him, her or them!

Thank you for your patience during our investigation of your complaint.  
If still dissatisfied, of course I shall personally authorise the full 
refund of your purchase price.

Best of luck, Ian
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Re: Java plugin with Firefox 3.6

[Harry Matthiesen Jensen]

On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 06:08:24AM -0400, Jerry wrote:
> > 
> > I just "portinstall firefox3", which right now will give you Firefox
> > 3.5.9, and java works ;-)
> 
> The OP requested help with Firefox-3.6, not with older deprecated
> 
I am fully aware of that...

The short answer would be "not yet possible" or "just wait, will come
later"... which in my "world" not is an answer anyone can use..

I just showed a way of getting java support in Firefox 3 ;-)

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Re: Java plugin with Firefox 3.6

[Jerry]

On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 07:50:04 +0200
Harry Matthiesen Jensen  articulated:


> On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 12:20:08AM +, Márcio C.G. wrote:
> > 
> > As this link (http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=10570)
> > says, JAVA PLUGIN WONT WORK WITH FIREFOX 3.6. I tried to use
> > linux-sun-jdk16 port, but the plugin didn t work too. Is there an
> > workaround or anybody that knows how-to use java plugin within
> > firefox 3.6?
> > 
> 
> I just "portinstall firefox3", which right now will give you Firefox
> 3.5.9, and java works ;-)

The OP requested help with Firefox-3.6, not with older deprecated
versions. Perhaps when version '4' is released, support for Java in
'3.6.x' will become available.

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Re: Java plugin with Firefox 3.6

[Harry Matthiesen Jensen]

On Mon, Jun 07, 2010 at 12:20:08AM +, Márcio C.G. wrote:
> 
> As this link (http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=10570) says, JAVA 
> PLUGIN WONT WORK WITH FIREFOX 3.6.
> I tried to use linux-sun-jdk16 port, but the plugin didn t work too.
> Is there an workaround or anybody that knows how-to use java plugin within 
> firefox 3.6?
> 

I just "portinstall firefox3", which right now will give you Firefox 3.5.9,
and java works ;-)

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Java plugin with Firefox 3.6

[Márcio C . G .]

As this link (http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=10570) says, JAVA 
PLUGIN WONT WORK WITH FIREFOX 3.6.
I tried to use linux-sun-jdk16 port, but the plugin didn t work too.
Is there an workaround or anybody that knows how-to use java plugin within 
firefox 3.6?

Thanks in advance,

Marcio C. Goulart

  
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Re: Eclipse causes segmentation fault in Java

[Ondrej Majerech]

Jonathan Chen wrote:

On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 11:10:42PM +0200, Ondrej Majerech wrote:

At a guess, you recently upgraded to GNOME 2.30; and since it's been
crashing. I just started seeing this myself since I updated yesterday.

Cheers.


This is a fresh install, so I didn't yet have the chance to upgrade 
anything -- everything is a fresh, first-time install.


But yeah, it appears to be the case. Eclipse pulled libgnome-2.30.0 as a 
dependency (among others).


Perhaps rebuilding Eclipse with WITHOUT_GNOMEVFS=yes is worth a try. I'm 
not a Gnome user anyway.


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Re: Eclipse causes segmentation fault in Java

[Jonathan Chen]

On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 11:10:42PM +0200, Ondrej Majerech wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> I have a fresh FBSD 8-Stable/AMD64 installation and I want to run 
> Eclipse. This is what I get:
> 
> [starlight] ~ > eclipse
> realpath: : No such file or directory
> #
> # An unexpected error has been detected by Java Runtime Environment:
> #
> #  SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0x000825d6d985, pid=11170, tid=0xa0ae40
> #
> # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM 
> (1.6.0_03-p4-root_13_may_2010_21_53-b00 mixed mode)
> # Problematic frame:
> # C  [libglib-2.0.so.0+0x18985]  g_base64_encode_step+0xe5
> #
> # An error report file with more information is saved as hs_err_pid11170.log
> #
> # Please submit bug reports to freebsd-j...@freebsd.org
> #

At a guess, you recently upgraded to GNOME 2.30; and since it's been
crashing. I just started seeing this myself since I updated yesterday.

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Eclipse causes segmentation fault in Java

[Ondrej Majerech]

Hey,

I have a fresh FBSD 8-Stable/AMD64 installation and I want to run 
Eclipse. This is what I get:


[starlight] ~ > eclipse
realpath: : No such file or directory
#
# An unexpected error has been detected by Java Runtime Environment:
#
#  SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0x000825d6d985, pid=11170, tid=0xa0ae40
#
# Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM 
(1.6.0_03-p4-root_13_may_2010_21_53-b00 mixed mode)

# Problematic frame:
# C  [libglib-2.0.so.0+0x18985]  g_base64_encode_step+0xe5
#
# An error report file with more information is saved as hs_err_pid11170.log
#
# Please submit bug reports to freebsd-j...@freebsd.org
#

Mentioned file is attached.

I'm using jdk16 from ports. I have also tried with diablo-jdk from ports 
with exactly the same result.


> java -version
realpath: : No such file or directory
java version "1.6.0_03-p4"
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 
1.6.0_03-p4-root_13_may_2010_21_53-b00)
Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 
1.6.0_03-p4-root_13_may_2010_21_53-b00, mixed mode)


After Eclipse crashes like this, my system becomes unusably slow: in top 
I can see the java process using 43 GB of memory (the "SIZE" column) and 
being in "STOP" state. Java is then slowly consuming my physical memory 
until I reboot.


It is apparantely trying to dump a core:

> ls -lh ~/java.core
-rw---  1 oxyd  oxyd43G May 13 21:15 /usr/home/oxyd/java.core

I need to say this is the largest coredump I've ever seen.

Doing sysctl kern.coredump=0 and retrying Eclipse produces the same 
error but doesn't hang my machine.


I'm also unsure about the "realpath: : No such file or directory" 
message that appears in the output, but I don't know what it means and 
Google doesn't help much.


I'll be happy to hear any suggestions.

~ Ondra
#
# An unexpected error has been detected by Java Runtime Environment:
#
#  SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0x000825d6d985, pid=11170, tid=0xa0ae40
#
# Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM 
(1.6.0_03-p4-root_13_may_2010_21_53-b00 mixed mode)
# Problematic frame:
# C  [libglib-2.0.so.0+0x18985]  g_base64_encode_step+0xe5
#
# Please submit bug reports to freebsd-j...@freebsd.org
#

---  T H R E A D  ---

Current thread (0x000800a8e000):  JavaThread "main" [_thread_in_native, 
id=10530368]

siginfo:si_signo=11, si_errno=0, si_code=2, si_addr=0x000825a0d000

Registers:
RAX=0x, RBX=0x7fbec69c, RCX=0x000825dd1740, 
RDX=0x
RSP=0x7fbec660, RBP=0x00082a00, RSI=0x0007, 
RDI=0x000825a0d000
R8 =0x00082a70f6a8, R9 =0x7fbec698, R10=0x, 
R11=0x000825a0cffe
R12=0x0010254c2346, R13=0x, R14=0x, 
R15=0x0008257f1b50
RIP=0x000825d6d985, EFL=0x0001, ERR=0x0004
  TRAPNO=0x000c

Top of Stack: (sp=0x7fbec660)
0x7fbec660:   7fbec698 00080c48
0x7fbec670:   7fbec69c 00082a00
0x7fbec680:   0008254c1700 000825d6ded3
0x7fbec690:   7fbec774 
0x7fbec6a0:   0008009a8c20 00082567d600
0x7fbec6b0:    7fbfd910
0x7fbec6c0:   0008257f1ba0 000829ebca35
0x7fbec6d0:   000829ebb190 000829662280
0x7fbec6e0:   000829662289 0010
0x7fbec6f0:    
0x7fbec700:    
0x7fbec710:   0008009a8c20 0008007ee3f9
0x7fbec720:   00080c48 0008254c1700
0x7fbec730:   000829662220 0008257b22c0
0x7fbec740:   0008257f7fb0 0008256a1b00
0x7fbec750:   000800a36800 000800ab1880
0x7fbec760:   000800a9b800 000829646ed0
0x7fbec770:   ffbfd910 0020
0x7fbec780:   00060020 0008009a8c20
0x7fbec790:   00082567d600 
0x7fbec7a0:   7fbfd910 000828306150
0x7fbec7b0:    
0x7fbec7c0:    
0x7fbec7d0:    
0x7fbec7e0:    
0x7fbec7f0:    
0x7fbec800:    
0x7fbec810:    
0x7fbec820:    
0x7fbec830:    
0x7fbec840:    
0x7fbec850:     

Instructions: (pc=0x000825d6d985)
0x000825d6d975:   b6 17 48 83 c7 01 44 89 d0 48 8d 0d bb 3d 06 00
0x000825d6d985:   0f b6 37 c1 f8 02 41 83 e2 03 4c 8d 5f 01 48 98 

Stack: [0x7faff000,0x000

[ANSWERED] Re: Java in FF3.6

[Programmer In Training]

On 03/06/10 16:57, Jerry wrote:

> Please check out this URL:
> 
> http://www.java.com/en/download/faq/firefox_newplugin.xml
> 
> I believer that the FreeBSD version of Java is several versions behind
> that. Therefore, it would appear to be a FreeBSD problem.
> 

I'll just wait for FreeBSD to update their Java. I'm not recompiling
everything currently linked against the Java I have installed (to
include OOo, which I would just upgrade to 3.2 from what I have). Too
much hassle.

Thanks (that link needs to go into UPDATING with the FF3.6 entry).

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Re: Java in FF3.6

[Jerry]

On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 14:30:28 -0600
Programmer In Training  articulated:

> According to /usr/ports/UPDATING the Java plugin does not work in
> FF3.6. Is this a Java issue, a FireFox issue or a FreeBSD issue? I
> just noticed this today as I was going through looking through it
> because of the thread about upgrading from perl5.8 to perl5.10 (the
> instructions in UPDATING don't seem to be working for me, but that's
> not a concern as I'm not looking to upgrade to 5.10, yet).
> 
> I didn't know if this question belongs here or on the -ports mailing
> list, but I am not x-posting. I'll just start a discussion there
> depending on how I'm informed here.

Please check out this URL:

http://www.java.com/en/download/faq/firefox_newplugin.xml

I believer that the FreeBSD version of Java is several versions behind
that. Therefore, it would appear to be a FreeBSD problem.

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Java in FF3.6

[Programmer In Training]

According to /usr/ports/UPDATING the Java plugin does not work in FF3.6.
Is this a Java issue, a FireFox issue or a FreeBSD issue? I just noticed
this today as I was going through looking through it because of the
thread about upgrading from perl5.8 to perl5.10 (the instructions in
UPDATING don't seem to be working for me, but that's not a concern as
I'm not looking to upgrade to 5.10, yet).

I didn't know if this question belongs here or on the -ports mailing
list, but I am not x-posting. I'll just start a discussion there
depending on how I'm informed here.
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Re: can I do away with most things-java?

[Gary Kline]

On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 07:29:22PM -0700, Warren Block wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Feb 2010, Gary Kline wrote:
> >
> > Still cannot find the Latest tzupdater; it's like 90 links to
> > find the bloody thing.  Aaarrrgh.
> 
> cd /usr/ports/java/jdk16
> make config
> turn off TZUPDATE

Thanks very much for the datapoint!  It worked.  TAhis must
be the 7th time I have had to search for that bloody file 
When the build finished  I did a make deinstall and a pkgdb -Fa 
to straighten out the dependencies ... so I think I'm free of 
using any of these devel kits.  Whoever wrote openjdk7 gets a 
gold star.

> 
> -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA

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Re: can I do away with most things-java?

[Warren Block]

On Wed, 24 Feb 2010, Gary Kline wrote:


Still cannot find the Latest tzupdater; it's like 90 links to
find the bloody thing.  Aaarrrgh.


cd /usr/ports/java/jdk16
make config
turn off TZUPDATE

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Re: can I do away with most things-java?

[Gary Kline]

On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 11:56:18PM +0100, Torgeir Hoffmann wrote:
> Hi Gary,
> 
> On 23 February 2010 23:28, Gary Kline  wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> >Some years ago I thought that future java tools would have
> >BSD ports that did not demand that we fetch them ourselves?
> >Now, among the few things left to rebuild/update is
> >diablo-jdk16.  The makefile sez to fetch
> >tzupdater-1_3_25-2009u.zip.
> >
> >Can somebody please give me the exact URL that points to this
> >file?
> >
> >More to the point, will a java port like openjdk free me from
> >any Sun ports?  Right now, a test pkg_delete of d-jdk16 gave
> >me:
> >
> >
> >
> > t...@tao:/var/db/pkg# pkg_delete diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02_7/
> > pkg_delete: package 'diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02_7' is required by these other
> > packages
> > and may not be deinstalled:
> > apache-ant-1.7.1
> > freemind-0.8.1_1,1
> > swt-3.5.1
> >
> >Anybody?
> >
> 
> I simply use the package for 7 with compatibility. I have no idea what is
> going on with FreeBSD Foundation and why no new
> packages for 8-RELEASE have been built. OpenJDK will partially free you. I
> tried it too, but I recall correctly you cannot build
> it without bootstrapping it with the Diablo the first time (subsequently, it
> can be built with the old version of OpenJDK on each update - please correct
> me if this is wrong).
> 
> However, I never succeeded in making any browser plugin for openjdk work.
> 
> If you have a problem with 'tzupdater', download the latest one from Sun's
> site and alter the checksums in
> /usr/ports/java/diablo-jdk16/distinfo with the correct checksums and size.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 


It does help to the extent that I successfully built
openjdk7.  What I need to know, if you or anyone else know
is, can I now pkg_delete diablo-jdk16 --- and still have tools
like swt and freemind work?

Still cannot find the Latest tzupdater; it's like 90 links to
find the bloody thing.  Aaarrrgh.  


> 
> Regards,
> 
> //T

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Re: can I do away with most things-java?

[Torgeir Hoffmann]

Hi Gary,

On 23 February 2010 23:28, Gary Kline  wrote:

>
>
>Some years ago I thought that future java tools would have
>BSD ports that did not demand that we fetch them ourselves?
>Now, among the few things left to rebuild/update is
>diablo-jdk16.  The makefile sez to fetch
>tzupdater-1_3_25-2009u.zip.
>
>Can somebody please give me the exact URL that points to this
>file?
>
>    More to the point, will a java port like openjdk free me from
>any Sun ports?  Right now, a test pkg_delete of d-jdk16 gave
>me:
>
>
>
> t...@tao:/var/db/pkg# pkg_delete diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02_7/
> pkg_delete: package 'diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02_7' is required by these other
> packages
> and may not be deinstalled:
> apache-ant-1.7.1
> freemind-0.8.1_1,1
> swt-3.5.1
>
>Anybody?
>

I simply use the package for 7 with compatibility. I have no idea what is
going on with FreeBSD Foundation and why no new
packages for 8-RELEASE have been built. OpenJDK will partially free you. I
tried it too, but I recall correctly you cannot build
it without bootstrapping it with the Diablo the first time (subsequently, it
can be built with the old version of OpenJDK on each update - please correct
me if this is wrong).

However, I never succeeded in making any browser plugin for openjdk work.

If you have a problem with 'tzupdater', download the latest one from Sun's
site and alter the checksums in
/usr/ports/java/diablo-jdk16/distinfo with the correct checksums and size.

Hope this helps,


Regards,

//T
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can I do away with most things-java?

[Gary Kline]

Some years ago I thought that future java tools would have
BSD ports that did not demand that we fetch them ourselves?
Now, among the few things left to rebuild/update is
diablo-jdk16.  The makefile sez to fetch
tzupdater-1_3_25-2009u.zip.

Can somebody please give me the exact URL that points to this
file?

More to the point, will a java port like openjdk free me from
any Sun ports?  Right now, a test pkg_delete of d-jdk16 gave
me:



t...@tao:/var/db/pkg# pkg_delete diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02_7/
pkg_delete: package 'diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02_7' is required by these other 
packages
and may not be deinstalled:
apache-ant-1.7.1
freemind-0.8.1_1,1
swt-3.5.1

Anybody?

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Re: Max UDP packet size + Java: weirdness

[Chuck Swiger]

On Feb 9, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Nerius Landys wrote:
>> % sysctl net.inet.udp.maxdgram
>> net.inet.udp.maxdgram: 9216
>> 
>> However, increasing it will guarantee that you will exceed even normal jumbo 
>> frame size and thus depend upon IP fragmentation / reassembly for the 
>> traffic.  I don't consider that to be a good idea, but it might be OK for 
>> local traffic
> 
> Wow thanks.  So it normally fits in 1 IP packet?

Normal use of UDP is for un-sequenced data which can fit entirely within a 
single packet, where some drops, out-of-order delivery, etc don't matter.  
(Classic example is realtime streaming, where stream-based guarantees that TCP 
makes is exactly what you don't want...)

> (What about the MTU being like 1500 or something?)

In that case, the most data per UDP packet you can send would be 1472 bytes.

> What's wrong with fragmentation?  Any links to explain this?

If you're lucky, then it's simply much slower than using PMTU datasize.  
Anything in the path which does NAT, VPN tunnelling, IPsec, or the like is 
probably going to have to reassemble all of the fragmented packets, adjust 
IPs/etc for NAT or break them up again for the new MTU for the case of tunnels, 
refragment the packets, redo checksums, etc.

Google is your friend; the first few links like:

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_fragmentation
  http://www.nil.si/ipcorner/IP_Fragmentation

If you're not lucky, an intermediate router or firewall will simply drop the 
traffic entirely; maybe you will see an ICMP message, or maybe not, but it will 
be up to the app to deal with retransmitting the data using smaller sizes.

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Re: Max UDP packet size + Java: weirdness

[Nerius Landys]

> You've encountered:
>
> % sysctl net.inet.udp.maxdgram
> net.inet.udp.maxdgram: 9216
>
> However, increasing it will guarantee that you will exceed even normal jumbo 
> frame size and thus depend upon IP fragmentation / reassembly for the 
> traffic.  I don't consider that to be a good idea, but it might be OK for 
> local traffic

Wow thanks.  So it normally fits in 1 IP packet?  (What about the MTU
being like 1500 or something?)  What's wrong with fragmentation?  Any
links to explain this?  This isn't local traffic by the way, I will be
sending stuff between a data center in San Diego and a data center in
Chicago.
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Re: Max UDP packet size + Java: weirdness

[Chuck Swiger]

On Feb 9, 2010, at 12:41 PM, Nerius Landys wrote:
> First, I noticed that I was able to send data that is 9216 in length
> between 2 FreeBSD 7.1 hosts ("far apart" in network distance) running
> Sun JDK 1.5.0_16-p9 (compiled myself from /usr/ports/java/jdk15).
[ ... ]
> For my particular application, I would really benefit from being able
> to send large UDP packets.  Does anyone know how to increase the max
> allowed size of UDP packets in a Java program?  I assume it's
> something outside of the Java program, in the system or kernel or
> whatnot.

You've encountered:

% sysctl net.inet.udp.maxdgram
net.inet.udp.maxdgram: 9216

However, increasing it will guarantee that you will exceed even normal jumbo 
frame size and thus depend upon IP fragmentation / reassembly for the traffic.  
I don't consider that to be a good idea, but it might be OK for local 
traffic

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Max UDP packet size + Java: weirdness

[Nerius Landys]

I'm trying to send large UDP packets between 2 programs written in the
Java programming language.  These 2 programs will be running on 2
different hosts which are far apart.  The "test" code for these
programs is only a few lines and is here:

  http://daffy.nerius.com/temp/BigUDPPacketTestClient.java
  http://daffy.nerius.com/temp/BigUDPPacketTestServer.java

First, I noticed that I was able to send data that is 9216 in length
between 2 FreeBSD 7.1 hosts ("far apart" in network distance) running
Sun JDK 1.5.0_16-p9 (compiled myself from /usr/ports/java/jdk15).
Any packet greater than this in length would not be sent, with the
following error:

Exception in thread "main" java.io.IOException: Message too long
at java.net.PlainDatagramSocketImpl.send(Native Method)
at java.net.DatagramSocket.send(DatagramSocket.java:612)
at BigUDPPacketTestClient.main(BigUDPPacketTestClient.java:24)

I then repeated these tests between 2 Linux hosts ("far apart" in
network distance).  One Linux host (the "server") was running OpenJDK
1.6.0-b09, and the other (the "client") was running Sun JDK
1.6.0_14-b08.  This time, I was able to send 35512 bytes in a UDP
packet before it crapped out.

For my particular application, I would really benefit from being able
to send large UDP packets.  Does anyone know how to increase the max
allowed size of UDP packets in a Java program?  I assume it's
something outside of the Java program, in the system or kernel or
whatnot.

Any help from network gurus would be appreciated.  Should I post this
in the freebsd-net mailing list instead?

- Nerius
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Re: which java on 8-release

[Chuck Robey]

Rob Farmer wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Steve Franks  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Tried to get any permutation of XYZ-jre or XYZ-jdk installed on 8-rc1
>> and gave up.  I see still no diablo for 8.  What is the best way
>> forward (and how am I so dense that no one else has even asked this
>> question, I must be on the wrong track, no?)  I saw a few posts about
>> having to install diablo in order to build openjdk, so that's out
>> too...what is the 'magic' port that people use?  I just want to run
>> all the apps that need java, I don't plan to write any java on my own.
> 
> Diablo should work on 8 with the misc/compat7x port - I'm running
> diablo-jdk16 on -current without any problems.
> 

Why are you insisting on diablo?  The jdk16 port (which is the Sun version of
Java) is so stable that it's unreal, and builds trivially easy.  It works so
perfectly that you really *ought to* use it to build the 3.5 version of eclipse.
 Using eclipse for Java, C, or Python is so good that nothing else makes sense.
 Probably others too, but I use it for python, C, and Java.  If you think that
eclipse is merely another editor, stand by for a shock.  I use the $15
vi/eclipse plugin, so I have a interface that looks much (command-wise) like
vim.  I really don't buy software too often, but geeze, this is just too good to
pass up.

It's the fact that FreeBSD's native jdk1.6 is solid beyond all expectations that
makes eclipse available.  I've been running it from FreeBSD-current, starting
java back at 8.0.  I've actually been running FreeBSD-current for, I dunno,
since last millenium?
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Re: which java on 8-release

[Jonathan Chen]

On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 05:25:57PM -0700, Steve Franks wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Tried to get any permutation of XYZ-jre or XYZ-jdk installed on 8-rc1
> and gave up.  I see still no diablo for 8.  What is the best way
> forward (and how am I so dense that no one else has even asked this
> question, I must be on the wrong track, no?

You need to install compat7 and diablo-6. This will enable you to
build your 'seed' openjdk6 port; which you can package and transfer to
other hosts. You can remove compat7 and diablo-6 once openjdk6 has
been installed; as openjdk6 can be used to rebuild itself during
upgrades.

Cheers.
-- 
Jonathan Chen 
--
Don't worry about avoiding temptation,
as you grow older, it starts avoiding you.
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Re: which java on 8-release

[Nerius Landys]

> Tried to get any permutation of XYZ-jre or XYZ-jdk installed on 8-rc1
> and gave up.  I see still no diablo for 8.  What is the best way
> forward (and how am I so dense that no one else has even asked this
> question, I must be on the wrong track, no?)  I saw a few posts about
> having to install diablo in order to build openjdk, so that's out
> too...what is the 'magic' port that people use?  I just want to run
> all the apps that need java, I don't plan to write any java on my own.

I compiled Java 1.5 from ports on 8.0 (both on i386 and on amd64).

> cd /usr/ports/java/jdk15/
> make install clean
(Then follow directions about downloading tarballs and placing them in
/usr/ports/distfiles/ .)

Along the way to building this port, it automatically installed the
compat-7 mentioned above, as well as the diablo JDK.  When the install
was all finished, I uninstalled the diablo JDK so that I'd have just
my freshly-compiled JDK 1.5 installed.

I'm sure building JDK 1.6 from ports is similar:

> cd /usr/ports/java/jdk16/
> make install clean

I prefer JDK 1.5 because it's simpler and has less dependencies, but
that's just me.
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Re: which java on 8-release

[Rob Farmer]

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Steve Franks  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Tried to get any permutation of XYZ-jre or XYZ-jdk installed on 8-rc1
> and gave up.  I see still no diablo for 8.  What is the best way
> forward (and how am I so dense that no one else has even asked this
> question, I must be on the wrong track, no?)  I saw a few posts about
> having to install diablo in order to build openjdk, so that's out
> too...what is the 'magic' port that people use?  I just want to run
> all the apps that need java, I don't plan to write any java on my own.

Diablo should work on 8 with the misc/compat7x port - I'm running
diablo-jdk16 on -current without any problems.

-- 
Rob Farmer

>
> Thanks,
> Steve
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which java on 8-release

[Steve Franks]

Hi,

Tried to get any permutation of XYZ-jre or XYZ-jdk installed on 8-rc1
and gave up.  I see still no diablo for 8.  What is the best way
forward (and how am I so dense that no one else has even asked this
question, I must be on the wrong track, no?)  I saw a few posts about
having to install diablo in order to build openjdk, so that's out
too...what is the 'magic' port that people use?  I just want to run
all the apps that need java, I don't plan to write any java on my own.

Thanks,
Steve
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