using netpgp with mutt

2013-09-04 Thread Chad Perrin
Is there anyone listening (reading) who has gotten netpgp working with
mutt?  I've been trying to sort out how to get it working as a
replacement for GnuPG, and have thus far failed to sort out how to make
it fit, and failed to find anything like a guide to using it for such
purposes on the web.

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mutt and http//url???

2013-03-22 Thread Gary Kline

guys,

==many== yeears ago when i was running Only FBSD, I  asked
this list how i could use mutt when somebody included an
http://url.com; and i got replies that worked.  --sseems 
like the url string got moved to the end and clicking on the 
string exec'd firefox.   

in the past couple years i've sub'd to the nytimes and other places
where the http string is several dozens of bytes.  in my mutt 
at least, there are + marks embedded at the beginning of each
new lines.  so that when i mouse lick on the url, i almost 
invariably get  either Nothing from my browswer, or the wrong 
page.

i've googled for days.  zero.  im finally asking the top list
on the web.   can anybody clue me in?  i'm  using linux/gnome/mutt.
but it shouldnt make any difference. [?!]

tia, everybody,

gary





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Re: mutt and http//url???

2013-03-22 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 14:36:15 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
   in the past couple years i've sub'd to the nytimes and other places
   where the http string is several dozens of bytes.  in my mutt 
   at least, there are + marks embedded at the beginning of each
   new lines.  so that when i mouse lick on the url, i almost 
   invariably get  either Nothing from my browswer, or the wrong 
   page.

That's to be expected. A URL covering several lines _can_ be
copied (selected) when the line wrap is uninterrupted. It
will even work for double- or triple-click (select word, select
line) with the normal edit buffer (left swipe to select, in
Firefox middle click or mousewheel press to go to URL). As the
'+' character will be part of the wrapped URL (which can span
several lines), the URL will be wrong, as you've seen.



   i've googled for days.  zero.  im finally asking the top list
   on the web.   can anybody clue me in?  i'm  using linux/gnome/mutt.
   but it shouldnt make any difference. [?!]

If I remember correctly, there's a way to disable the line break
emphasizer ('+' character) in the display. Have you tried

set markers=no

in your ~/.muttrc? Or was it

unset markers

Something with markers... I'm not fully sure if this is the
setting you're searching for, but go ahead and try it.




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Re: mutt and http//url???

2013-03-22 Thread Karl Vogel
 On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 14:36:15 -0700, 
 Gary Kline kl...@thought.org said:

G in the past couple years i've sub'd to the nytimes and other places
G where the http string is several dozens of bytes.  in my mutt at least,
G there are + marks embedded at the beginning of each new lines.  so
G that when i mouse lick on the url,

   Don't lick your mouse.  That's gross.

G i almost invariably get either Nothing from my browswer, or the wrong
G page.

   You might want to try urlview, bound to Ctrl-B in mutt by default.  It's a
   screen-oriented program for extracting URLs from text files, putting
   them in a menu, and letting you run a command to view a specific item.

   If you're on a FreeBSD system, it's in /usr/ports/textproc/urlview.

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Re: mutt and http//url???

2013-03-22 Thread Gary Kline
On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 01:20:18AM +0100, Polytropon wrote:
 On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 14:36:15 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
  in the past couple years i've sub'd to the nytimes and other places
  where the http string is several dozens of bytes.  in my mutt 
  at least, there are + marks embedded at the beginning of each
  new lines.  so that when i mouse lick on the url, i almost 
  invariably get  either Nothing from my browswer, or the wrong 
  page.
 
 That's to be expected. A URL covering several lines _can_ be
 copied (selected) when the line wrap is uninterrupted. It
 will even work for double- or triple-click (select word, select
 line) with the normal edit buffer (left swipe to select, in
 Firefox middle click or mousewheel press to go to URL). As the
 '+' character will be part of the wrapped URL (which can span
 several lines), the URL will be wrong, as you've seen.
 
 
 
  i've googled for days.  zero.  im finally asking the top list
  on the web.   can anybody clue me in?  i'm  using linux/gnome/mutt.
  but it shouldnt make any difference. [?!]
 
 If I remember correctly, there's a way to disable the line break
 emphasizer ('+' character) in the display. Have you tried
 
   set markers=no
 
 in your ~/.muttrc? Or was it
 
   unset markers
 
 Something with markers... I'm not fully sure if this is the
 setting you're searching for, but go ahead and try it.
 

theres a 'set markers' that defaults to yes. I edited it to no
and, presto, no mo' '+' in the url strings.  ---how you ever 
remembered  the variable 'markers' is beyound me, but yup.

anyway, with my konsole at std size, ~37x80, I moused dead-on 
the http string.  same as before: the string showed up from the
'http://.' to the eol.  and when I clicked, I got garbage.  

wait, there's more.  I blew up the konsole  until it filled the
entire  screen.  [i did this once before and got the right page.]
it still worked.  no '+' line break, but still.

it's a bear to have to enlage the xterm/konsole just to read
some mail, but it works with the two embedded urls that I've tried
so far.  why?  dunno.
 
 
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Re: mutt and http//url???

2013-03-22 Thread Gary Kline
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 08:39:07PM -0400, Karl Vogel wrote:
  On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 14:36:15 -0700, 
  Gary Kline kl...@thought.org said:
 
 G in the past couple years i've sub'd to the nytimes and other places
 G where the http string is several dozens of bytes.  in my mutt at least,
 G there are + marks embedded at the beginning of each new lines.  so
 G that when i mouse lick on the url,
 
Don't lick your mouse.  That's gross.



but it was so tasty! 'specially with chocolatte syrup.

 G i almost invariably get either Nothing from my browswer, or the wrong
 G page.
 
You might want to try urlview, bound to Ctrl-B in mutt by default.  It's a
screen-oriented program for extracting URLs from text files, putting
them in a menu, and letting you run a command to view a specific item.
 
If you're on a FreeBSD system, it's in /usr/ports/textproc/urlview.


this was one of the things I tried.  I followed the instructions
exactly--with urlview and ^B.  eventually I wound up with the
list but it was hard to decide which was the text!

maybe leave o ne konsole wide open on my 4th workspace


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Re: mutt and http//url???

2013-03-22 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 18:18:55 -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
   anyway, with my konsole at std size, ~37x80, I moused dead-on 
   the http string.  same as before: the string showed up from the
   'http://.' to the eol.  and when I clicked, I got garbage.  

The only way I tried (and confirmed) to deal with this
particular problem is to make the select URL process
a bit more complex (in terms of steps involed):

Use a triple-click to select the whole (multi-line) URL,
OR select it manually. Doing so with a held-down left
mouse button will transfer the selected text into the
edit buffer. In this specific case where the '+' characters
have been eliminated, the line breaks will also _not_
be part of the edit buffer content.

I've tried this by selecting a multi-line URL in a
normal X terminal (xterm) and pasting it to a GUI text
editor - result: one line, as intended. Now if I do a
middle-click in the web browser (Opera in my case), it
will navigate to that URL in the current tab (or open
a new tab for it if I click on an empty space on the
tab bar).

The same concept applies to Firefox, but you need to have
one instance of it started. Click the middle mouse button
(or if you don't have one, press down the mouse wheel).
Now Firefox will receive the full URL and go to that
web page.

However, this is, as you see, a bit more complicated.
You can still try it and verify if it will work in your
setting.



   wait, there's more.  I blew up the konsole  until it filled the
   entire  screen.  [i did this once before and got the right page.]
   it still worked.  no '+' line break, but still.

That's an interesting workaround, but also makes things
unneccessarily complicated. An intermediate solution could
be to maximize the whole terminal application and use
virtual desktops (workspaces) to switch between MUA and
web browser. Still that's suboptimum.






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clicking on URL'S in mutt.

2013-02-18 Thread Gary Kline


guys, 

for some reason, kmail is busted and I need a way of getting
mutt to spawn firefox.  Anybody?

gary

ps:  this is from a linujx desktop running kde... 
ps ive got urlview [??]  but it lists dozens of http links:: lost.





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Re: clicking on URL'S in mutt.

2013-02-18 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 21:04:05 -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
   for some reason, kmail is busted and I need a way of getting
   mutt to spawn firefox.  Anybody?

I can only suggest the most basic method (which should work
with any text mode MUA, even those without any mouse support).
It requires that you already have a Firefox running, e. g. on
a 2nd workspace. First select the URL in the mail message with
the left mouse button, then switch over to the Firefox window
and click the middle mouse button (or press down the mouse
wheel if you don't have a normal 3 button mouse). If the URL
is encapsulated in spaces, a double-click would select it,
so you don't need to manually select it from its beginning
to its end (or vice versa).



   ps:  this is from a linujx desktop running kde... 

If your mail storage is intact, can't you (temporarily) use
Thunderbird to access it? If I remember correctly, KMail and
Thunderbird are using the same storage format (mbox, I think)...




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Re: clicking on URL'S in mutt.

2013-02-18 Thread Gary Kline
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 06:39:45AM +0100, Polytropon wrote:
 On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 21:04:05 -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
  for some reason, kmail is busted and I need a way of getting
  mutt to spawn firefox.  Anybody?
 
 I can only suggest the most basic method (which should work
 with any text mode MUA, even those without any mouse support).
 It requires that you already have a Firefox running, e. g. on
 a 2nd workspace. First select the URL in the mail message with
 the left mouse button, then switch over to the Firefox window
 and click the middle mouse button (or press down the mouse
 wheel if you don't have a normal 3 button mouse). If the URL
 is encapsulated in spaces, a double-click would select it,
 so you don't need to manually select it from its beginning
 to its end (or vice versa).
 
 
 
  ps:  this is from a linujx desktop running kde... 
 
 If your mail storage is intact, can't you (temporarily) use
 Thunderbird to access it? If I remember correctly, KMail and
 Thunderbird are using the same storage format (mbox, I think)...
 


I think youre rt about t'bird.  I tried to install  it and got 
wy lost. ince kde is the same wherever, I'm including 
the ancillary file that is giving kmail fits.  maybe someone
omlist will spot the trouble straight away---considering  that
this is the sharpest list anywhere.

in the meantime, im using the rightmost button with mutt and
getting some of the http urls.

thank, everybody,

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(mutt +) msmtp problem?

2012-05-16 Thread Ramiro Caso
I use mutt (1.5.21) with msmtp (1.4.28) as MDA. Usually, everything goes 
smoothly, but every once in a while I lose network connectivity when 
sending email (I don't recall whether there is a correlation between 
this problem and my trying to send not-so-big but yet around 1mb files).


Basically, what happens in trying to send an email is:

May 16 10:01:17  wpa_supplicant[662]: CTRL-EVENT-DISCONNECTED 
bssid=**:**:**:**:**:** reason=0

...
May 16 10:02:27  wpa_supplicant[662]: CTRL-EVENT-CONNECTED - 
Connection to **:**:**:**:**:** completed (reauth) [id=0 id_str=]

...

Then I try again, and the same thing happens. All msmtp's log shows is:

errormsg='cannot write to TLS connection: Pipe Broken' exitcode=EX_IOERR

Any ideas?

Best,
Ramiro

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Re: (mutt +) msmtp problem?

2012-05-16 Thread James Edwards
 I use mutt (1.5.21) with msmtp (1.4.28) as MDA. Usually, everything goes
 smoothly, but every once in a while I lose network connectivity when
 sending email (I don't recall whether there is a correlation between
 this problem and my trying to send not-so-big but yet around 1mb files).

 Basically, what happens in trying to send an email is:

 May 16 10:01:17  wpa_supplicant[662]: CTRL-EVENT-DISCONNECTED
 bssid=**:**:**:**:**:** reason=0
 ...
 May 16 10:02:27  wpa_supplicant[662]: CTRL-EVENT-CONNECTED -
 Connection to **:**:**:**:**:** completed (reauth) [id=0 id_str=]
 ...

 Then I try again, and the same thing happens. All msmtp's log shows is:

 errormsg='cannot write to TLS connection: Pipe Broken' exitcode=EX_IOERR

 Any ideas?

 Best,
 Ramiro


Based on above, mutt and msmpt *appear* to be fine, but this seems to be a
problem with the wireless driver, card, or router - you are being
disconnected from the network, which in turn is causing the 'broken pipe'.

You could feasibly work around it by using a wired connection, or take a
look at what is going on with your wireless.

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Re: (mutt +) msmtp problem?

2012-05-16 Thread Ramiro Caso

On 16/05/2012 11:04, James Edwards wrote:

I use mutt (1.5.21) with msmtp (1.4.28) as MDA. Usually, everything goes
smoothly, but every once in a while I lose network connectivity when
sending email (I don't recall whether there is a correlation between
this problem and my trying to send not-so-big but yet around 1mb files).

Basically, what happens in trying to send an email is:

May 16 10:01:17  wpa_supplicant[662]: CTRL-EVENT-DISCONNECTED
bssid=**:**:**:**:**:** reason=0
...
May 16 10:02:27  wpa_supplicant[662]: CTRL-EVENT-CONNECTED -
Connection to **:**:**:**:**:** completed (reauth) [id=0 id_str=]
...

Then I try again, and the same thing happens. All msmtp's log shows is:

errormsg='cannot write to TLS connection: Pipe Broken' exitcode=EX_IOERR

Any ideas?

Best,
Ramiro


Based on above, mutt and msmpt *appear* to be fine, but this seems to be a
problem with the wireless driver, card, or router - you are being
disconnected from the network, which in turn is causing the 'broken pipe'.
Indeed, mutt + msmtp appear to be fine... My bad for not being 
clearer... However, there is a correlation that goes beyond credible 
coincidence: the disconnection happens when (and, as far as I can 
recall, only when) I use mutt + msmtp to send sizeable files. In 
particular, no disconnection occurs when I'm not using mutt + msmtp, or 
when I use mutt + msmtp but I send emails without sizeable attachments. 
Also, the disconnection happens within seconds of attempting to send the 
sizeable emails.


I guess it is a problem with the wireless card, but it seems to be 
somehow closely linked to the event of trying to send sizeable emails 
using mutt + msmtp (when I use thunderbird to send the files, everything 
works as expected, no disconnection).

You could feasibly work around it by using a wired connection, or take a
look at what is going on with your wireless.
My work around, for now, is to use thunderbird for sending large emails, 
so there's no hurry. But I'm a bit puzzled about what's happening.

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Re: (mutt +) msmtp problem?

2012-05-16 Thread Ramiro Caso

On 16/05/2012 11:04, James Edwards wrote:

I use mutt (1.5.21) with msmtp (1.4.28) as MDA. Usually, everything goes
smoothly, but every once in a while I lose network connectivity when
sending email (I don't recall whether there is a correlation between
this problem and my trying to send not-so-big but yet around 1mb files).

Basically, what happens in trying to send an email is:

May 16 10:01:17  wpa_supplicant[662]: CTRL-EVENT-DISCONNECTED
bssid=**:**:**:**:**:** reason=0
...
May 16 10:02:27  wpa_supplicant[662]: CTRL-EVENT-CONNECTED -
Connection to **:**:**:**:**:** completed (reauth) [id=0 id_str=]
...

Then I try again, and the same thing happens. All msmtp's log shows is:

errormsg='cannot write to TLS connection: Pipe Broken' exitcode=EX_IOERR

Any ideas?

Best,
Ramiro


Based on above, mutt and msmpt *appear* to be fine, but this seems to be a
problem with the wireless driver, card, or router - you are being
disconnected from the network, which in turn is causing the 'broken pipe'.


Indeed, mutt + msmtp appear to be fine... My bad for not being 
clearer... However, there is a correlation that goes beyond credible 
coincidence: the disconnection happens when (and, as far as I can 
recall, only when) I use mutt + msmtp to send sizeable files. In 
particular, no disconnection occurs when I'm not using mutt + msmtp, or 
when I use mutt + msmtp but I send emails without sizeable attachments. 
Also, the disconnection happens within seconds of attempting to send the 
sizeable emails.


I guess it is a problem with the wireless card, but it seems to be 
somehow closely linked to the event of trying to send sizeable emails 
using mutt + msmtp (when I use thunderbird to send the files, everything 
works as expected, no disconnection).



You could feasibly work around it by using a wired connection, or take a
look at what is going on with your wireless.


My work around, for now, is to use thunderbird for sending large emails, 
so there's no hurry. But I'm a bit puzzled about what's happening.



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mutt and slrn

2011-07-12 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
I've been a GUI man for the last couple of years. Recently I wanted to 
change back to the two programs I used most: mutt (email) and slrn 
(news) only to find out they were not in ports anymore. Yes I know, 
there'se japanese versions, but what ever happened to the 'normal' 
programs? Are they gone?


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Re: mutt and slrn

2011-07-12 Thread Dick Hoogendijk

Op 12-7-2011 11:39 schreef Dick Hoogendijk:
I've been a GUI man for the last couple of years. Recently I wanted to 
change back to the two programs I used most: mutt (email) and slrn 
(news) only to find out they were not in ports anymore. Yes I know, 
there'se japanese versions, but what ever happened to the 'normal' 
programs? Are they gone?


I stand corrected. Must have overlooked something in doing the make 
search name= thing in /usr/ports. They do exist in the normal places 
(news/slrn and mail/mutt)

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Re: Mutt Port broken ?

2010-11-17 Thread Leon Meßner
Salut,

On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 04:11:35PM +0100, t...@diogunix.com wrote:
 Hello everybody,
 
 just tried to build /usr/ports/mail/mutt but surprisingly got stuck with an 
 Error 1 though the ports collectionis updated and well maintained:
 
 m_err -lcrypto -lasn1 -lroken -lcrypt -lssl -lcrypto  -lintl -liconv -liconv 
 muttlib.o(.text+0x12f2): In function `mutt_mktemp':
 : warning: warning: mktemp() possibly used unsafely; consider using 
 mkstemp()
 /usr/lib/libhx509.so: undefined reference to `MD2_Init'
 /usr/lib/libhx509.so: undefined reference to `MD2_Final'
 /usr/lib/libhx509.so: undefined reference to `MD2_Update'
 *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in /usr/ports/mail/mutt/work/mutt-1.4.2.3.
 *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in /usr/ports/mail/mutt/work/mutt-1.4.2.3.
 *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in /usr/ports/mail/mutt/work/mutt-1.4.2.3.
 *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in /usr/ports/mail/mutt.
 
 Any ideas on what could be done ?

I'm nut sure but i remember that openssl dropped support for the MD2
Algo. Perhaps try with MD2 enabled.

hth,
leon
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Mutt Port broken ?

2010-11-14 Thread t...@diogunix.com
Hello everybody,

just tried to build /usr/ports/mail/mutt but surprisingly got stuck with an 
Error 1 though the ports collectionis updated and well maintained:

m_err -lcrypto -lasn1 -lroken -lcrypt -lssl -lcrypto  -lintl -liconv -liconv 
muttlib.o(.text+0x12f2): In function `mutt_mktemp':
: warning: warning: mktemp() possibly used unsafely; consider using 
mkstemp()
/usr/lib/libhx509.so: undefined reference to `MD2_Init'
/usr/lib/libhx509.so: undefined reference to `MD2_Final'
/usr/lib/libhx509.so: undefined reference to `MD2_Update'
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/mail/mutt/work/mutt-1.4.2.3.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/mail/mutt/work/mutt-1.4.2.3.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/mail/mutt/work/mutt-1.4.2.3.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/mail/mutt.

Any ideas on what could be done ?

Thanks a lot in advance
Tom
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Re: Mutt Port broken ?

2010-11-14 Thread Alexander Best
On Sun Nov 14 10, t...@diogunix.com wrote:
 Hello everybody,
 
 just tried to build /usr/ports/mail/mutt but surprisingly got stuck with an 
 Error 1 though the ports collectionis updated and well maintained:
 
 m_err -lcrypto -lasn1 -lroken -lcrypt -lssl -lcrypto  -lintl -liconv -liconv 
 muttlib.o(.text+0x12f2): In function `mutt_mktemp':
 : warning: warning: mktemp() possibly used unsafely; consider using 
 mkstemp()
 /usr/lib/libhx509.so: undefined reference to `MD2_Init'
 /usr/lib/libhx509.so: undefined reference to `MD2_Final'
 /usr/lib/libhx509.so: undefined reference to `MD2_Update'
 *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in /usr/ports/mail/mutt/work/mutt-1.4.2.3.
 *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in /usr/ports/mail/mutt/work/mutt-1.4.2.3.
 *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in /usr/ports/mail/mutt/work/mutt-1.4.2.3.
 *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in /usr/ports/mail/mutt.
 
 Any ideas on what could be done ?

could you post the following:

1) cat /etc/src.conf
2) cd /usr/ports/mail/mutt; make showconfig
3) uname -a

cheers.
alex

 
 Thanks a lot in advance
 Tom

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/usr/ports/mail/mutt broken ?

2010-11-13 Thread t...@diogunix.com
Hello everybody,

just tried to build /usr/ports/mail/mutt but surprisingly got stuck with an 
Error 1 though the ports collectionis updated and well maintained:

m_err -lcrypto -lasn1 -lroken -lcrypt -lssl -lcrypto  -lintl -liconv -liconv 
muttlib.o(.text+0x12f2): In function `mutt_mktemp':
: warning: warning: mktemp() possibly used unsafely; consider using 
mkstemp()
/usr/lib/libhx509.so: undefined reference to `MD2_Init'
/usr/lib/libhx509.so: undefined reference to `MD2_Final'
/usr/lib/libhx509.so: undefined reference to `MD2_Update'
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/mail/mutt/work/mutt-1.4.2.3.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/mail/mutt/work/mutt-1.4.2.3.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/mail/mutt/work/mutt-1.4.2.3.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/mail/mutt.

Any ideas on what could be done ?

Thanks a lot in advance
Tom


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Colors, mutt, termcap/terminfo

2010-06-08 Thread Chip Camden
I finally got 256 colors working with mutt and zsh on FreeBSD.  Even though 
both of
these programs apparently use terminfo rather than termcap, a termcap
entry must exist for your TERM setting, or they both complain.

I had tried that before, but I was missing one key ingredient.  The environment
variable TERMCAP needed to be set to the path of the termcap file, even
if it is /etc/termcap.  Apparently, if TERMCAP isn't set, a built-in
termcap table is used instead.

The terminfo setting I wanted was rxvt-256color, which existed in
terminfo but not in termcap.  So, I edited /etc/termcap to include a
setting for rxvt-256color, export TERMCAP=/etc/termcap, export
TERM=rxvt-256color, and all is now right with the world.

Of course, I only want to use 256 colors if I'm running under rxvt.  So I
wrote a shell script to start mutt that tests for that and sets an
environment variable MUTT_COLORS to the name of a file that includes my
mutt color settings (either .mutt-color256 or .mutt-color8).  Then, in
.muttrc:

source ~/$MUTT_COLORS

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Re: Mutt and openssl from port

2009-12-13 Thread Lena
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 05:55:16PM -0600, Scott Bennett wrote:

 On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 21:46:27 +0200 Lena()lena.kiev.ua wrote:
 7.1-PRERELEASE. I'd like Mutt to use zlib compression when connecting to 
 pop3s.
 openssl in base doesn't support zlib. I installed openssl port from package
 (in the port zlib in on by default), wrote in make.conf:
 
 WITH_OPENSSL_PORT=yes
 
 and `portupgrade -f mutt`. However, Mutt still uses openssl from base:
 
 ~ $ ldd /usr/local/bin/mutt
 /usr/local/bin/mutt:
 libncursesw.so.7 = /lib/libncursesw.so.7 (0x28103000)
 libssl.so.5 = /usr/lib/libssl.so.5 (0x2814f000)
 libcrypto.so.5 = /lib/libcrypto.so.5 (0x2819)
 libintl.so.8 = /usr/local/lib/libintl.so.8 (0x282ea000)
 libiconv.so.3 = /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so.3 (0x282f3000)
 libc.so.7 = /lib/libc.so.7 (0x283ea000)

 Right.  We tor users just went through that, too.  The problem is that
 what WITH_OPENSSL_PORT=YES does is to add -L/usr/local/lib to the cc or gcc
 command that does the link edit step.  However, that adds the desired
 directory to the *end* of the list of directories to be searched, when what
 you want is to put it at the beginning of the list.  What I ended up doing
 was to add LDFLAGS=-rpath=/usr/local/lib to the ./configure step for tor,
 so you may want to take a look at the make config target to see how best
 to do that for mutt.  Be careful that the use of -rpath won't cause it to
 include libraries from /usr/local/lib instead of from the base system for
 other stuff where you might not want that to happen.

Thanks, this seems to work:

===
--- Makefile.orig   2009-02-11 21:08:46.0 +0200
+++ Makefile2009-12-13 18:05:06.0 +0200
@@ -83,9 +83,9 @@
 GNU_CONFIGURE= yes
 USE_AUTOTOOLS= automake:19 autoconf:262
 LDFLAGS+=  -L${LOCALBASE}/lib
-CONFIGURE_ENV= CC=${CC} -I${LOCALBASE}/include LDFLAGS=${LDFLAGS}
+CONFIGURE_ENV= CC=${CC} -I${LOCALBASE}/include 
LDFLAGS=-rpath=/usr/local/lib ${LDFLAGS}
 CONFIGURE_ARGS=--enable-pop --enable-imap --disable-fcntl \
-   --with-ssl=${OPENSSLBASE} --sysconfdir=${PREFIX}/etc \
+   --with-ssl=/usr/local --sysconfdir=${PREFIX}/etc \
--with-sharedir=${PREFIX}/share/mutt \
--with-docdir=${DOCSDIR} --with-charmaps \
--enable-compressed
===

~ $ ldd /usr/local/bin/mutt
/usr/local/bin/mutt:
libncursesw.so.7 = /lib/libncursesw.so.7 (0x28103000)
libssl.so.5 = /usr/local/lib/libssl.so.5 (0x2814f000)
libcrypto.so.5 = /usr/local/lib/libcrypto.so.5 (0x28193000)
libintl.so.8 = /usr/local/lib/libintl.so.8 (0x282da000)
libiconv.so.3 = /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so.3 (0x282e3000)
libc.so.7 = /lib/libc.so.7 (0x283da000)
libz.so.4 = /lib/libz.so.4 (0x284d9000)
libthr.so.3 = /lib/libthr.so.3 (0x284eb000)
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Mutt and openssl from port

2009-12-12 Thread Lena
Hi,

7.1-PRERELEASE. I'd like Mutt to use zlib compression when connecting to pop3s.
openssl in base doesn't support zlib. I installed openssl port from package
(in the port zlib in on by default), wrote in make.conf:

WITH_OPENSSL_PORT=yes

and `portupgrade -f mutt`. However, Mutt still uses openssl from base:

~ $ ldd /usr/local/bin/mutt
/usr/local/bin/mutt:
libncursesw.so.7 = /lib/libncursesw.so.7 (0x28103000)
libssl.so.5 = /usr/lib/libssl.so.5 (0x2814f000)
libcrypto.so.5 = /lib/libcrypto.so.5 (0x2819)
libintl.so.8 = /usr/local/lib/libintl.so.8 (0x282ea000)
libiconv.so.3 = /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so.3 (0x282f3000)
libc.so.7 = /lib/libc.so.7 (0x283ea000)

Then I patched /usr/ports/mail/mutt/Makefile :

 CONFIGURE_ARGS=--enable-pop --enable-imap --disable-fcntl \
-   --with-ssl=${OPENSSLBASE} --sysconfdir=${PREFIX}/etc \
+   --with-ssl=/usr/local --sysconfdir=${PREFIX}/etc \

but got the same. I suppose that OPENSSL_OVERWRITE_BASE doesn't work:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-November/065565.html
What can I do?

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Re: Mutt and openssl from port

2009-12-12 Thread Scott Bennett
 On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 21:46:27 +0200 l...@lena.kiev.ua wrote:
7.1-PRERELEASE. I'd like Mutt to use zlib compression when connecting to pop3s.
openssl in base doesn't support zlib. I installed openssl port from package
(in the port zlib in on by default), wrote in make.conf:

WITH_OPENSSL_PORT=yes

and `portupgrade -f mutt`. However, Mutt still uses openssl from base:

~ $ ldd /usr/local/bin/mutt
/usr/local/bin/mutt:
libncursesw.so.7 = /lib/libncursesw.so.7 (0x28103000)
libssl.so.5 = /usr/lib/libssl.so.5 (0x2814f000)
libcrypto.so.5 = /lib/libcrypto.so.5 (0x2819)
libintl.so.8 = /usr/local/lib/libintl.so.8 (0x282ea000)
libiconv.so.3 = /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so.3 (0x282f3000)
libc.so.7 = /lib/libc.so.7 (0x283ea000)

 Right.  We tor users just went through that, too.  The problem is that
what WITH_OPENSSL_PORT=YES does is to add -L/usr/local/lib to the cc or gcc
command that does the link edit step.  However, that adds the desired
directory to the *end* of the list of directories to be searched, when what
you want is to put it at the beginning of the list.  What I ended up doing
was to add LDFLAGS=-rpath=/usr/local/lib to the ./configure step for tor,
so you may want to take a look at the make config target to see how best
to do that for mutt.  Be careful that the use of -rpath won't cause it to
include libraries from /usr/local/lib instead of from the base system for
other stuff where you might not want that to happen.

Then I patched /usr/ports/mail/mutt/Makefile :

 CONFIGURE_ARGS=--enable-pop --enable-imap --disable-fcntl \
-   --with-ssl=${OPENSSLBASE} --sysconfdir=${PREFIX}/etc \
+   --with-ssl=/usr/local --sysconfdir=${PREFIX}/etc \

but got the same. I suppose that OPENSSL_OVERWRITE_BASE doesn't work:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-November/065565.html
What can I do?

 See explanation above.


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Re: Mutt /tmp full error when trying to read email

2009-09-21 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
I get similar error when trying to open text/enriched emails.
mutt creates a temprorary file under /tmp until it fills the
partition, then I get

/tmp: write failed, filesystem is full

If I'm able to exit mutt normally, the file is deleted automatically.
If I kill mutt process I can see huge mutt-something file under /tmp.

I reported this in 

http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/questions/2009-09/msg00502.html

I think this must be a bug since text/enriched is supposed to be
supported automatically in mutt.

My installation: FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT ia64, mutt-devel-1.5.20_1

regards
anton


On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 01:23:43AM -0700, Doug Hardie wrote:
 You have 4 directories in /tmp.  Check them.  If nothing, run lsof +L1  
 and see if there are files allocated but not in the directory.
 
 
 On 20 September 2009, at 00:41, Bryan Cassidy wrote:
 
  I decided to reinstall and make /tmp 2Gigs and here is my current  
  layout
 
  df -H
 
  Filesystem SizeUsed   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
  /dev/ad0s1a2.0G150M1.7G 8%/
  devfs  1.0k1.0k  0B   100%/dev
  /dev/ad0s1e2.0G1.8G 78M96%/tmp
  /dev/ad0s1f 29G2.4G 24G 9%/usr
  /dev/ad0s1d2.0G1.1G750M60%/var
 
  Here is the output of df -i
 
  Filesystem  1K-blocksUsedAvail Capacity iused   ifree  
  %iused  Mounted on
  /dev/ad0s1a   1982798  146842  1677334 8%1765  257305 
  1%   /
  devfs   1   10   100%   0   0   
  100%   /dev
  /dev/ad0s1e   1982798 17476467653096%  15  259055 
  0%   /tmp
  /dev/ad0s1f  28459276 2301652 23880882 9%  239356 3458306 
  6%   /usr
  /dev/ad0s1d   1999598 1107622   73201060%1984  279870 
  1%   /var
 
 
  This is the exact error
 
  /tmp: write failed, filesystem is full
  yes: stdout: No space left on device. Press any key to continue...
 
  I am able to send emails from Mutt just fine for some reason. How can
  /tmp be full when it is 2Gigs? Here is the contents of /tmp
 
  drwxrwxrwt   6 rootwheel   512 Sep 20 02:33 ./
  drwxr-xr-x  20 rootwheel   512 Sep 20 00:47 ../
  drwxrwxrwt   2 rootwheel   512 Sep 20 00:48 .ICE-unix/
  -r--r--r--   1 rootwheel11 Sep 20 01:25 .X0-lock
  drwxrwxrwt   2 rootwheel   512 Sep 20 01:25 .X11-unix/
  drwxrwxrwt   2 rootwheel   512 Sep 20 00:48 .XIM-unix/
  drwxrwxrwt   2 rootwheel   512 Sep 20 00:48 .font-unix/
  -rw---   1 bsdsys  wheel  1246 Sep 20 02:29 mutt- 
  mail-3b4arq36-3
 
  Thanks in Advance for any help.
 
 
 
  On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 01:39:22AM -0500, Erik Osterholm wrote:
  Out of inodes?  df -i
 
  Erik
 
  On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 09:16:36PM -0500, Bryan Cassidy wrote:
  Here is a little about my setup
 
  uname -a
  FreeBSD mail.comcast.net 7.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE #0: Fri  
  May  1 08:49:13 UTC 2009 r...@walker.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/ 
  usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386
 
  Mutt 1.4.2.3i
 
  Output from df -h
 
  Filesystem SizeUsed   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
  /dev/ad0s1a496M143M313M31%/
  devfs  1.0K1.0K  0B   100%/dev
  /dev/ad0s1e496M332M124M73%/tmp
  /dev/ad0s1f 30G2.9G 25G11%/usr
  /dev/ad0s1d1.9G 53M1.7G 3%/var
  linprocfs  4.0K4.0K  0B   100%/usr/compat/linux/ 
  proc
 
  When /tmp shows 73% used why am I getting these messages when  
  trying
  to open emails in mutt? I cannot opem them at all. Thanks in  
  advance.
 
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Re: Mutt /tmp full error when trying to read email

2009-09-20 Thread Bryan Cassidy
 I decided to reinstall and make /tmp 2Gigs and here is my current layout
 
 df -H
 
 Filesystem SizeUsed   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
 /dev/ad0s1a2.0G150M1.7G 8%/
 devfs  1.0k1.0k  0B   100%/dev
 /dev/ad0s1e2.0G1.8G 78M96%/tmp
 /dev/ad0s1f 29G2.4G 24G 9%/usr
 /dev/ad0s1d2.0G1.1G750M60%/var
 
 Here is the output of df -i
 
 Filesystem  1K-blocksUsedAvail Capacity iused   ifree %iused  Mounted 
on
 /dev/ad0s1a   1982798  146842  1677334 8%1765  2573051%   /
 devfs   1   10   100%   0   0  100%   /dev
 /dev/ad0s1e   1982798 17476467653096%  15  2590550%   /tmp
 /dev/ad0s1f  28459276 2301652 23880882 9%  239356 34583066%   /usr
 /dev/ad0s1d   1999598 1107622   73201060%1984  2798701%   /var
 
 
 This is the exact error 
 
 /tmp: write failed, filesystem is full
 yes: stdout: No space left on device. Press any key to continue...
 
 I am able to send emails from Mutt just fine for some reason. How can 
 /tmp be full when it is 2Gigs? Here is the contents of /tmp
 
 drwxrwxrwt   6 rootwheel   512 Sep 20 02:33 ./
 drwxr-xr-x  20 rootwheel   512 Sep 20 00:47 ../
 drwxrwxrwt   2 rootwheel   512 Sep 20 00:48 .ICE-unix/
 -r--r--r--   1 rootwheel11 Sep 20 01:25 .X0-lock
 drwxrwxrwt   2 rootwheel   512 Sep 20 01:25 .X11-unix/
 drwxrwxrwt   2 rootwheel   512 Sep 20 00:48 .XIM-unix/
 drwxrwxrwt   2 rootwheel   512 Sep 20 00:48 .font-unix/
 -rw---   1 bsdsys  wheel  1246 Sep 20 02:29 mutt-mail-3b4arq36-3
 
 Thanks in Advance for any help.
 
 
 
 On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 01:39:22AM -0500, Erik Osterholm wrote:
  Out of inodes?  df -i
  
  Erik
  
  On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 09:16:36PM -0500, Bryan Cassidy wrote:
   Here is a little about my setup
   
   uname -a
   FreeBSD mail.comcast.net 7.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE #0: Fri May  1 
   08:49:13 UTC 2009 
   r...@walker.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386
   
   Mutt 1.4.2.3i 
   
   Output from df -h
   
   Filesystem SizeUsed   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
   /dev/ad0s1a496M143M313M31%/
   devfs  1.0K1.0K  0B   100%/dev
   /dev/ad0s1e496M332M124M73%/tmp
   /dev/ad0s1f 30G2.9G 25G11%/usr
   /dev/ad0s1d1.9G 53M1.7G 3%/var
   linprocfs  4.0K4.0K  0B   100%/usr/compat/linux/proc
   
   When /tmp shows 73% used why am I getting these messages when trying 
   to open emails in mutt? I cannot opem them at all. Thanks in advance.
   
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Re: Mutt /tmp full error when trying to read email

2009-09-20 Thread Doug Hardie
You have 4 directories in /tmp.  Check them.  If nothing, run lsof +L1  
and see if there are files allocated but not in the directory.



On 20 September 2009, at 00:41, Bryan Cassidy wrote:

I decided to reinstall and make /tmp 2Gigs and here is my current  
layout


df -H

Filesystem SizeUsed   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/ad0s1a2.0G150M1.7G 8%/
devfs  1.0k1.0k  0B   100%/dev
/dev/ad0s1e2.0G1.8G 78M96%/tmp
/dev/ad0s1f 29G2.4G 24G 9%/usr
/dev/ad0s1d2.0G1.1G750M60%/var

Here is the output of df -i

Filesystem  1K-blocksUsedAvail Capacity iused   ifree  
%iused  Mounted on
/dev/ad0s1a   1982798  146842  1677334 8%1765  257305 
1%   /
devfs   1   10   100%   0   0   
100%   /dev
/dev/ad0s1e   1982798 17476467653096%  15  259055 
0%   /tmp
/dev/ad0s1f  28459276 2301652 23880882 9%  239356 3458306 
6%   /usr
/dev/ad0s1d   1999598 1107622   73201060%1984  279870 
1%   /var



This is the exact error

/tmp: write failed, filesystem is full
yes: stdout: No space left on device. Press any key to continue...

I am able to send emails from Mutt just fine for some reason. How can
/tmp be full when it is 2Gigs? Here is the contents of /tmp

drwxrwxrwt   6 rootwheel   512 Sep 20 02:33 ./
drwxr-xr-x  20 rootwheel   512 Sep 20 00:47 ../
drwxrwxrwt   2 rootwheel   512 Sep 20 00:48 .ICE-unix/
-r--r--r--   1 rootwheel11 Sep 20 01:25 .X0-lock
drwxrwxrwt   2 rootwheel   512 Sep 20 01:25 .X11-unix/
drwxrwxrwt   2 rootwheel   512 Sep 20 00:48 .XIM-unix/
drwxrwxrwt   2 rootwheel   512 Sep 20 00:48 .font-unix/
-rw---   1 bsdsys  wheel  1246 Sep 20 02:29 mutt- 
mail-3b4arq36-3


Thanks in Advance for any help.




On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 01:39:22AM -0500, Erik Osterholm wrote:

Out of inodes?  df -i

Erik

On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 09:16:36PM -0500, Bryan Cassidy wrote:

Here is a little about my setup

uname -a
FreeBSD mail.comcast.net 7.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE #0: Fri  
May  1 08:49:13 UTC 2009 r...@walker.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/ 
usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386


Mutt 1.4.2.3i

Output from df -h

Filesystem SizeUsed   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/ad0s1a496M143M313M31%/
devfs  1.0K1.0K  0B   100%/dev
/dev/ad0s1e496M332M124M73%/tmp
/dev/ad0s1f 30G2.9G 25G11%/usr
/dev/ad0s1d1.9G 53M1.7G 3%/var
linprocfs  4.0K4.0K  0B   100%/usr/compat/linux/ 
proc


When /tmp shows 73% used why am I getting these messages when  
trying
to open emails in mutt? I cannot opem them at all. Thanks in  
advance.


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Mutt /tmp full error when trying to read email

2009-09-19 Thread Bryan Cassidy
Here is a little about my setup

uname -a
FreeBSD mail.comcast.net 7.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE #0: Fri May  1 
08:49:13 UTC 2009 r...@walker.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  
i386

Mutt 1.4.2.3i 

Output from df -h

Filesystem SizeUsed   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/ad0s1a496M143M313M31%/
devfs  1.0K1.0K  0B   100%/dev
/dev/ad0s1e496M332M124M73%/tmp
/dev/ad0s1f 30G2.9G 25G11%/usr
/dev/ad0s1d1.9G 53M1.7G 3%/var
linprocfs  4.0K4.0K  0B   100%/usr/compat/linux/proc

When /tmp shows 73% used why am I getting these messages when trying 
to open emails in mutt? I cannot opem them at all. Thanks in advance.

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Re: Mutt /tmp full error when trying to read email

2009-09-19 Thread Glen Barber
Hi,

Can you paste the actual error?

On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 10:16 PM, Bryan Cassidy
north_side_sox_...@comcast.net wrote:
 Here is a little about my setup

 uname -a
 FreeBSD mail.comcast.net 7.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE #0: Fri May  1 
 08:49:13 UTC 2009     
 r...@walker.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386

 Mutt 1.4.2.3i

 Output from df -h

 Filesystem     Size    Used   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
 /dev/ad0s1a    496M    143M    313M    31%    /
 devfs          1.0K    1.0K      0B   100%    /dev
 /dev/ad0s1e    496M    332M    124M    73%    /tmp
 /dev/ad0s1f     30G    2.9G     25G    11%    /usr
 /dev/ad0s1d    1.9G     53M    1.7G     3%    /var
 linprocfs      4.0K    4.0K      0B   100%    /usr/compat/linux/proc

 When /tmp shows 73% used why am I getting these messages when trying
 to open emails in mutt? I cannot opem them at all. Thanks in advance.

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mutt users - text/enriched crashes mutt?

2009-09-14 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
I've got a text/enriched email, which crashes mutt-devel-1.5.20_1
This is FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT ia64

When I open this email, mutt freezes, while the /tmp/mutt* file
is growing until it fills the partition, and I get a message
on the terminal, something can't copy file, device full:

-rw---   1 mexas  wheel 215941357 14 Sep 10:48 
mutt-mech-cluster241-RHvpz380-0

Now, the manual, http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-5.html,
claims:

Mutt internally supports a number of MIME types,
including text/plain, text/enriched, ...

So is there something wrong with my installation, or
with this message?

Below is a copy of the offending email:

Please advise

many thanks

###

From xxx@bristol.ac.uk Wed Sep  9 16:06:03 2009
Return-Path: xxx@bristol.ac.uk
Received: from some.host (localhost [127.0.0.1])
by some.host (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n89F62Uv090897
for me...@localhost; Wed, 9 Sep 2009 16:06:02 +0100 (BST)
(envelope-from xxx@bristol.ac.uk)
Received: from epo.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.55]
by some.host with IMAP (fetchmail-6.3.11)
for me...@localhost (single-drop); Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:06:02 +0100 
(BST)
Received: from epo.bris.ac.uk ([unix socket])
 by groucho (Cyrus v2.2.12) with LMTPA;
 Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:02:51 +0100
X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2
Received: from dirg.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.102])
by epo.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69)
(envelope-from xxx@bristol.ac.uk)
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Received: from ncsc.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.10.41])
by dirg.bris.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69)
(envelope-from xxx@bristol.ac.uk)
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Received: from mech-sec144.men.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.184.144])
by ncsc.bris.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256)
(Exim 4.67)
(envelope-from om...@bristol.ac.uk)
id 1MlOh9-00038K-GY; Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:02:51 +0100
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:02:50 +0100
From: MK zzz xxx@bristol.ac.uk
To: Anton Shterenlikht me...@bristol.ac.uk
Subject: Re: UG projects students
Message-ID: a1018eb7b1ca3099a2730...@mech-sec144.men.bris.ac.uk
In-Reply-To: 20090904113606.ga93...@some.host
References:  20090904113606.ga93...@some.host
Originator-Info: 
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 token_authority=postmas...@bristol.ac.uk
X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.5 (Win32)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
 boundary===F08EA8DED4439FC5ABE4==
Content-Disposition: inline
Status: RO
Content-Length: 3055
Lines: 175

--==F08EA8DED4439FC5ABE4==
Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Content-Disposition: inline

fontfamilyparamzzz/paramflushleft

zzz

/flushleft/fontfamily

--==F08EA8DED4439FC5ABE4==--

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mutt screen output...

2009-08-31 Thread Gary Kline

In recents months many if not all of my text messages displayed
thru mutt include things like \240 and other octal chars.

anybody know why and how to fix this?

gary

ps: be great in kmail or evo had a reply option that used vi/vim!


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Re: mutt screen output...

2009-08-31 Thread Roland Smith
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 10:21:43AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
 
   In recents months many if not all of my text messages displayed
   thru mutt include things like \240 and other octal chars.
 
   anybody know why and how to fix this?
 
What terminal emulator are you using, and what are your locale settings? With
urxvt and LANG and LC_ALL set to en_US.UTF-8 It works fine. Mind you, I think
that the console doesn't support UTF-8 (yet).

Roland
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Re: mutt screen output...

2009-08-31 Thread Gary Kline
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 08:09:49PM +0200, Roland Smith wrote:
 On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 10:21:43AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
  
  In recents months many if not all of my text messages displayed
  thru mutt include things like \240 and other octal chars.
  
  anybody know why and how to fix this?
  
 What terminal emulator are you using, and what are your locale settings? With
 urxvt and LANG and LC_ALL set to en_US.UTF-8 It works fine. Mind you, I think
 that the console doesn't support UTF-8 (yet).
 

Konsole ... up from xterm.  

i thought it was my LC settings for a moment, but I just checked:

% setenv |gr LC
11:LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8
12:LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8
17:LC_LANG=en_US.UTF-8

Any other settings to grep for?

gary


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Re: mutt screen output...

2009-08-31 Thread Roland Smith
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 12:52:00PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
 On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 08:09:49PM +0200, Roland Smith wrote:
  On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 10:21:43AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
   
 In recents months many if not all of my text messages displayed
 thru mutt include things like \240 and other octal chars.
   
 anybody know why and how to fix this?
   
  What terminal emulator are you using, and what are your locale settings? 
  With
  urxvt and LANG and LC_ALL set to en_US.UTF-8 It works fine. Mind you, I 
  think
  that the console doesn't support UTF-8 (yet).
  
 
   Konsole ... up from xterm.  
 
   i thought it was my LC settings for a moment, but I just checked:
 
   % setenv |gr LC
   11:LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8
   12:LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8
   17:LC_LANG=en_US.UTF-8
 
   Any other settings to grep for?

Check if Konsole/KDE have any settings regarding fonts and character sets. I'm
not a KDE user so I can't help you much with that. According to
http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase-apps/konsole/commandreference.html, the
View-Set Character Encoding might be of use, or one of the submenus
in the Settings menu?

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Re: mutt screen output...

2009-08-31 Thread Gary Kline
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 11:48:20PM +0200, Roland Smith wrote:
 On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 12:52:00PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
  On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 08:09:49PM +0200, Roland Smith wrote:
   On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 10:21:43AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:

In recents months many if not all of my text messages displayed
thru mutt include things like \240 and other octal chars.

anybody know why and how to fix this?

   What terminal emulator are you using, and what are your locale settings? 
   With
   urxvt and LANG and LC_ALL set to en_US.UTF-8 It works fine. Mind you, I 
   think
   that the console doesn't support UTF-8 (yet).
   
  
  Konsole ... up from xterm.  
  
  i thought it was my LC settings for a moment, but I just checked:
  
  % setenv |gr LC
  11:LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8
  12:LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8
  17:LC_LANG=en_US.UTF-8
  
  Any other settings to grep for?
 
 Check if Konsole/KDE have any settings regarding fonts and character sets. I'm
 not a KDE user so I can't help you much with that. According to
 http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase-apps/konsole/commandreference.html, the
 View-Set Character Encoding might be of use, or one of the submenus
 in the Settings menu?


not found. BUT changing the Settings - Encoding  [long list] to UTF8
may be working.

are they are kde/konsole wizards out there who can point me to just ONE 
place in ~/.kde3/*/* and to the konsole* file where things live?
i'll change everything byhand if i have to, but would think that the
default is set somewhere centrally.

thanks very much, Roland.

gary

ps: i'll 2- and 3-ck to be sure!!


 
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Re: mutt with muttprofile and GnuPG-Support

2009-07-30 Thread Randall Wood

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:53:47 -0500, Doug Poland d...@polands.org
said:
 
 On Tue, July 28, 2009 11:49, Christian Grube wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I was wondering, why there is no IMAP/SMTP-Support in mutt
  or mutt-devel. I have had mutt-ng and muttprofile on my debianbox
  and it works like a charm.
 
  Is there a small hint for me to provide the same functionality under
  FreeBSD 8?
 
 I've been using mutt-devel for years with IAMP support.  A quick look
 at the Makefile leads me to believe IMAP support is built in and not a
 configurable knob.
 
 
 -- 
 Regards,
 Doug
 

IMAP support is AT LEAST in mutt-devel and probably in mutt as well, and
has been since the 1.3 days (2003 or so).  As for SMTP support, that
appeared around 1.5.17 I think (about a year ago); you might have to use
mutt-devel for it.  That said, I find mutt-devel to be as stable as I
could hope for and never seem to have any problems with it, unlike some
devel packages that can be flaky.  I think if you type mutt -v at the
prompt, it will show you which options were compiled in.
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Re: mutt with muttprofile and GnuPG-Support

2009-07-30 Thread Andrew Gould
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 6:55 AM, Randall Woodzafir...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:53:47 -0500, Doug Poland d...@polands.org
 said:

 On Tue, July 28, 2009 11:49, Christian Grube wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I was wondering, why there is no IMAP/SMTP-Support in mutt
  or mutt-devel. I have had mutt-ng and muttprofile on my debianbox
  and it works like a charm.
 
  Is there a small hint for me to provide the same functionality under
  FreeBSD 8?
 
 I've been using mutt-devel for years with IAMP support.  A quick look
 at the Makefile leads me to believe IMAP support is built in and not a
 configurable knob.


 --
 Regards,
 Doug


 IMAP support is AT LEAST in mutt-devel and probably in mutt as well, and
 has been since the 1.3 days (2003 or so).  As for SMTP support, that
 appeared around 1.5.17 I think (about a year ago); you might have to use
 mutt-devel for it.  That said, I find mutt-devel to be as stable as I
 could hope for and never seem to have any problems with it, unlike some
 devel packages that can be flaky.  I think if you type mutt -v at the
 prompt, it will show you which options were compiled in.
 ___

I may be misunderstanding the issue with SMTP.  Is the poster just
needing to send email through a non-local email server?  If so, the
port msmtp is very easy to use and works very well with mutt.

Andrew
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Re: mutt with muttprofile and GnuPG-Support

2009-07-30 Thread Frank Steinborn
Andrew Gould wrote:
  IMAP support is AT LEAST in mutt-devel and probably in mutt as well, and
  has been since the 1.3 days (2003 or so).  As for SMTP support, that
  appeared around 1.5.17 I think (about a year ago); you might have to use
  mutt-devel for it.  That said, I find mutt-devel to be as stable as I
  could hope for and never seem to have any problems with it, unlike some
  devel packages that can be flaky.  I think if you type mutt -v at the
  prompt, it will show you which options were compiled in.
  ___
 
 I may be misunderstanding the issue with SMTP.  Is the poster just
 needing to send email through a non-local email server?  If so, the
 port msmtp is very easy to use and works very well with mutt.
 
 Andrew

If mutt-devel is used and compiled WITH_MUTT_SMTP, no outside tool is
needed, mutt can handle SMTP itself then.

Cheers,
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Re: mutt with muttprofile and GnuPG-Support

2009-07-30 Thread Frank Steinborn
Christian Grube wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I was wondering, why there is no IMAP/SMTP-Support in mutt
 or mutt-devel. I have had mutt-ng and muttprofile on my debianbox
 and it works like a charm.
 Is there a small hint for me to provide the same functionality under
 FreeBSD 8?
 Greetings Chris

For IMAP you don't have to set an extra knob, however, you definitely
want IMAP header caching (WITH_MUTT_IMAP_HEADER_CACHE). For SMTP, you
need to set WITH_MUTT_SMTP. GPG doesn't need an extra knob too.

So to install with the above options set, use in mail/mutt-devel:
make -DWITH_MUTT_IMAP_HEADER_CACHE -DWITH_MUTT_SMTP install clean

See /usr/ports/mail/mutt-devel/Makefile for more options you can set.

BTW, i think the stable Mutt does not support IMAP at all, you'd
have to use an extra fetchmail or whatever. However, virtually
everyone wants to use mutt-devel anyway.

HTH,
Frank
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Re: mutt with muttprofile and GnuPG-Support

2009-07-30 Thread Christian Grube
Hi Andrew,
 I may be misunderstanding the issue with SMTP.  Is the poster just
 needing to send email through a non-local email server?  If so, the
 port msmtp is very easy to use and works very well with mutt.
 
 Andrew
I've changed from Debian (used mutt there) to FreeBSD and it works
very well. My issue was, that i used the .muttrc and some Profiles
in my .mutt ( as example profile.chris, profile.seraphyn, profile.etc..)
with muttprofile to have an allinone-MUA. Using buildin smtp/imap to
use my Server at my hoster, SPAM/Virus etc is made there. OfflineIMAP
for Backup.
But after starting mutt-devel in FreeBSD i get following Errors:
Fehler in /home/seraphyn/.mutt/profile.seraphyn, Zeile 1: file_charset: 
Unbekannte Variable.
Fehler in /home/seraphyn/.mutt/profile.seraphyn, Zeile 13: header_cache: 
Unbekannte Variable.
Fehler in /home/seraphyn/.mutt/profile.seraphyn, Zeile 20: smtp_url: Unbekannte 
Variable.
Fehler in /home/seraphyn/.mutt/profile.seraphyn, Zeile 21: smtp_authenticators: 
Unbekannte Variable.
Fehler in /home/seraphyn/.mutt/profile.seraphyn, Zeile 22: smtp_pass: 
Unbekannte Variable.
 Unbekannte Variable = means not known variable
It is possible for me to spend my time without the file_charset, but the other 
ones gives me some
problems.
Now I've to find out, what patches mutt in debian lenny is using to provide 
them in FreeBSD.
Mutt is much important for me, I dislike any GUI-click-MUAs.
At the moment, I'm using mutt on my Srv ( till now debian driven, would be 
changed soon).
mutt in Debian is 1.15.18 and I saw the patches with mutt -v.
So I've to keep up the good work and will post again after I've changed the 
behaviour to a for
me well known mutt;)
If interrested mutt -v under Debian: http://deveth.pastebin.com/f1f082f38
Doesn't seems to be a problem for me really, hope so;)

Greetings and Thanks
Chris
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Re: mutt with muttprofile and GnuPG-Support

2009-07-30 Thread Frank Steinborn
Christian Grube wrote:
 It is possible for me to spend my time without the file_charset, but the 
 other ones gives me some
 problems.
 Now I've to find out, what patches mutt in debian lenny is using to provide 
 them in FreeBSD.
 Mutt is much important for me, I dislike any GUI-click-MUAs.
 At the moment, I'm using mutt on my Srv ( till now debian driven, would be 
 changed soon).
 mutt in Debian is 1.15.18 and I saw the patches with mutt -v.
 So I've to keep up the good work and will post again after I've changed the 
 behaviour to a for
 me well known mutt;)
 If interrested mutt -v under Debian: http://deveth.pastebin.com/f1f082f38
 Doesn't seems to be a problem for me really, hope so;)

Christian,

please read my reply to you, i guess it's all explained there...

Cheers,
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mutt with muttprofile and GnuPG-Support

2009-07-28 Thread Christian Grube
Hi,

I was wondering, why there is no IMAP/SMTP-Support in mutt
or mutt-devel. I have had mutt-ng and muttprofile on my debianbox
and it works like a charm.
Is there a small hint for me to provide the same functionality under
FreeBSD 8?
Greetings Chris
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mutt-devel freezes with filesystem full, ends up in wdrain cpu state

2009-07-28 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On ia64 8.0-beta1 SMP mutt-devel-1.5.20_1 freezes on some folders with 

/tmp: write failed, filesystem is full
Could not copy message

top shows that mutt is in wdrain state and in /var/log/messages I see

   kernel: pid 43702 (mutt), uid 1001 inumber 23554 on /tmp: filesystem full

/tmp has lots of free space


Anybody else is seeing this?
What could be the problem?

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Re: mutt with muttprofile and GnuPG-Support

2009-07-28 Thread Doug Poland

On Tue, July 28, 2009 11:49, Christian Grube wrote:
 Hi,

 I was wondering, why there is no IMAP/SMTP-Support in mutt
 or mutt-devel. I have had mutt-ng and muttprofile on my debianbox
 and it works like a charm.

 Is there a small hint for me to provide the same functionality under
 FreeBSD 8?

I've been using mutt-devel for years with IAMP support.  A quick look
at the Makefile leads me to believe IMAP support is built in and not a
configurable knob.


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mutt question

2009-01-07 Thread David Karapetyan
Hello. When I open my mutt email client, the cursor (highlighting mail) 
is always located in the middle of the screen. What option do I need to 
include in my muttrc so that when I open mutt, the cursor highlights the 
topmost email?

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Re: mutt question

2009-01-07 Thread Daniel Molina Wegener [Coder.CL]
On Wednesday 07 January 2009 19:07:13 David Karapetyan wrote:
 Hello. When I open my mutt email client, the cursor
 (highlighting mail) is always located in the middle of the
 screen. What option do I need to include in my muttrc so that
 when I open mutt, the cursor highlights the topmost email?

  Hi, try using colors if your terminal emulator support them,
I have these colors in my muttrc file:

-8--8--8--8- SNIP
# Default colour definitions
color hdrdefault white black
color quoted cyan black
color signature  brightwhite black
color indicator  brightwhite red
color attachment black white
color error  red white
color messagewhite black
color search brightwhite magenta
color status brightblue white
color tree   white black
color normal white black
color tilde  red black
color bold   brightwhite black
color markersbrightcyan black

# Colour definitions when on a mono screen
mono bold  bold
mono underline underline
mono indicator reverse

# Colours for items in the reader
color header brightyellow black ^(From|Subject|Date):
mono  header bold ^(From|Subject|X-Junked-Because\
|X-Virus-hagbard):
-8--8--8--8- SNIP


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 Department of Mathematics
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 Notre Dame, IN 46556-4618
 Phone: 574-631-5706
 Cell:  202-460-5173
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Re: mutt question

2009-01-07 Thread David Karapetyan
Yes, I already am using colors. However, when I open mutt, the email 
located in the middle of my terminal screen is the one that is 
highlighted, rather than the topmost one. This strikes me as odd; I'd 
like for the topmost email (email #1) to be highlighted.

On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 07:47:30PM -0300, Daniel Molina Wegener [Coder.CL] 
wrote:
 On Wednesday 07 January 2009 19:07:13 David Karapetyan wrote:
  Hello. When I open my mutt email client, the cursor
  (highlighting mail) is always located in the middle of the
  screen. What option do I need to include in my muttrc so that
  when I open mutt, the cursor highlights the topmost email?
 
   Hi, try using colors if your terminal emulator support them,
 I have these colors in my muttrc file:
 
 -8--8--8--8- SNIP
 # Default colour definitions
 color hdrdefault white black
 color quoted cyan black
 color signature  brightwhite black
 color indicator  brightwhite red
 color attachment black white
 color error  red white
 color messagewhite black
 color search brightwhite magenta
 color status brightblue white
 color tree   white black
 color normal white black
 color tilde  red black
 color bold   brightwhite black
 color markersbrightcyan black
 
 # Colour definitions when on a mono screen
 mono bold  bold
 mono underline underline
 mono indicator reverse
 
 # Colours for items in the reader
 color header brightyellow black ^(From|Subject|Date):
 mono  header bold ^(From|Subject|X-Junked-Because\
 |X-Virus-hagbard):
 -8--8--8--8- SNIP
 
 
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  Department of Mathematics
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  Notre Dame, IN 46556-4618
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Re: mutt question

2009-01-07 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Jan 07), David Karapetyan said:
 On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 07:47:30PM -0300, Daniel Molina Wegener [Coder.CL] 
 wrote:
  On Wednesday 07 January 2009 19:07:13 David Karapetyan wrote:
   Hello. When I open my mutt email client, the cursor (highlighting
   mail) is always located in the middle of the screen. What option
   do I need to include in my muttrc so that when I open mutt, the
   cursor highlights the topmost email?
  
  Hi, try using colors if your terminal emulator support them, I have
  these colors in my muttrc file:

 Yes, I already am using colors. However, when I open mutt, the email
 located in the middle of my terminal screen is the one that is
 highlighted, rather than the topmost one. This strikes me as odd; I'd
 like for the topmost email (email #1) to be highlighted.

By default, mutt will put the cursor on the first New message, and if
there are none, the first Old message, and if there are none, the first
message.  I bet you've got an unread message in the middle of your
mailbox :)

If you want mutt to go to the first message in any folder, add this to
your ~/.muttrc file:

folder-hook . push first-entry

That will tell mutt to jump to the first message on any folder name
matching the regex . (which will match anything).

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Re: mutt question

2009-01-07 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 18:11:56 -0500, David Karapetyan 
david.karapet...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes, I already am using colors. However, when I open mutt, the email
 located in the middle of my terminal screen is the one that is
 highlighted, rather than the topmost one. This strikes me as odd; I'd
 like for the topmost email (email #1) to be highlighted.

I can't find an option that may tune this sort of behavior in the
`.muttrc' startup file, but you can use a hook that is executed
every time a folder is opened:

folder-hook '1' .*

This will simulate an event of `1RETURN' every time you open a
folder whose name matches the regular-expression `.*'.  Matching
all folder names, the command will be executed every time you
open any folder, and mutt will move the current message pointer
to the first message in the folder.

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Re: is there a way to get an ACK from the mutt version of FBSD?

2008-12-14 Thread andrew clarke
On Sat 2008-12-13 17:02:48 UTC-0500, Glen Barber (glen.j.bar...@gmail.com) 
wrote:

 i did something to evolution (or mail) so it sends a your mail was 
  opened
 on u...@foo.com.  i've been hunting thru the mutt docs; i do not 
  see how to
 get a similar ack from mutt as evo.  is there, perhaps a 
  sendmail.[cf|mc]
 way lost in the reams of pages in my sendmail book?  [2 da ago i send
 cold-call mail to a few experts; one at least read my paragraph.  
  i'd like
 to know at least that my mail arr and hopefully was glanced at!]
 
 I believe you're looking for a receipt confirmation tool, but I don't
 believe mutt has that capability, as its job is to write mail, and
 direct it to the MTA.
 
 Either way, receipt confirmations are not always accurate, as I never
 send confirmations that I have received mail -- then I'd *need* to
 reply.

Indeed.  Also, these links may be useful...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Return_receipt#E-mail

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-mail_tracking
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is there a way to get an ACK from the mutt version of FBSD?

2008-12-13 Thread Gary Kline

guys,

i did something to evolution (or mail) so it sends a your mail was 
opened 
on u...@foo.com.  i've been hunting thru the mutt docs; i do not see 
how to
get a similar ack from mutt as evo.  is there, perhaps a 
sendmail.[cf|mc]
way lost in the reams of pages in my sendmail book?  [2 da ago i send
cold-call mail to a few experts; one at least read my paragraph.  i'd 
like
to know at least that my mail arr and hopefully was glanced at!]

tia,

gary



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Re: is there a way to get an ACK from the mutt version of FBSD?

2008-12-13 Thread Wojciech Puchar

guys,

i did something to evolution (or mail) so it sends a your mail was 
opened
on u...@foo.com.  i've been hunting thru the mutt docs; i do not see 
how to
get a similar ack from mutt as evo.  is there, perhaps a 
sendmail.[cf|mc]


If i understood you correctly, you mean confirmation of mail being read.
It is not mail server job, it's purely mail client functionality.
I'm not even sure if it was ever standarized.

but for sure sendmail.mc/cf is not the right place to search only your 
mail program configs/docs.

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Re: is there a way to get an ACK from the mutt version of FBSD?

2008-12-13 Thread Glen Barber
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:

guys,

i did something to evolution (or mail) so it sends a your mail was 
 opened
on u...@foo.com.  i've been hunting thru the mutt docs; i do not see 
 how to
get a similar ack from mutt as evo.  is there, perhaps a 
 sendmail.[cf|mc]
way lost in the reams of pages in my sendmail book?  [2 da ago i send
cold-call mail to a few experts; one at least read my paragraph.  i'd 
 like
to know at least that my mail arr and hopefully was glanced at!]


I believe you're looking for a receipt confirmation tool, but I don't
believe mutt has that capability, as its job is to write mail, and
direct it to the MTA.

Either way, receipt confirmations are not always accurate, as I never
send confirmations that I have received mail -- then I'd *need* to
reply.


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Re: is there a way to get an ACK from the mutt version of FBSD?

2008-12-13 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 13:50:53 -0800, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
 guys,

 i did something to evolution (or mail) so it sends a your mail was
 opened on u...@foo.com.  i've been hunting thru the mutt docs; i do
 not see how to get a similar ack from mutt as evo.  is there, perhaps
 a sendmail.[cf|mc] way lost in the reams of pages in my sendmail book?
 [2 da ago i send cold-call mail to a few experts; one at least read my
 paragraph.  i'd like to know at least that my mail arr and hopefully
 was glanced at!]

I don't think there's a way to *force* the recipients of your messages
to reply whenever they read a post.  Your MUA can ask for this sort of
'email receipt', but the recipient can always ignore it.

My mailers always ignore this sort of mis-feature, for instance, because
I consider it a violation of my privacy.  Whenever I get one of these
``call home'' emails, I can't help but think:

``Why would you want to know that I woke up in the middle of the night,
fired up Emacs, read a few qmail messages, but then thought it best to
keep sleeping rather than reply to your message?''

Having said that, you can configure _your_ mutt instance to send DSN
replies.  Look for the dsn_notify and dsn_return options in the manual
of Mutt.

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Re: is there a way to get an ACK from the mutt version of FBSD?

2008-12-13 Thread Polytropon
I don't know if it has already been mentioned, but the only
kind of receive confirmation you get from your FreeBSD system
itself is the success entry in /var/log/maillog which will
inform you that either the POP/SMTP server facility where
the recipient has his mail account successfully received
the message or the information that the SmartHost mail
relay has accepted the message for relaying (in case your
sendmail subsystem just hands mail over to a relay).

Any kind of confirmation that the recipient has read the
message is up to his mail client application.


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Re: is there a way to get an ACK from the mutt version of FBSD?

2008-12-13 Thread Gary Kline
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 10:58:44PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
  guys,
 
  i did something to evolution (or mail) so it sends a your mail was 
  opened
  on u...@foo.com.  i've been hunting thru the mutt docs; i do not 
  see how to
  get a similar ack from mutt as evo.  is there, perhaps a 
  sendmail.[cf|mc]
 
 If i understood you correctly, you mean confirmation of mail being read.
 It is not mail server job, it's purely mail client functionality.
 I'm not even sure if it was ever standarized.

not read, merely opened, touched--obviously...

 
 but for sure sendmail.mc/cf is not the right place to search only your 
 mail program configs/docs.

i was hoping sendmail, being the transfer agent was NOT the place.



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Re: is there a way to get an ACK from the mutt version of FBSD?

2008-12-13 Thread Gary Kline
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 05:02:48PM -0500, Glen Barber wrote:
 On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
 
 guys,
 
 i did something to evolution (or mail) so it sends a your mail was 
  opened
 on u...@foo.com.  i've been hunting thru the mutt docs; i do not 
  see how to
 get a similar ack from mutt as evo.  is there, perhaps a 
  sendmail.[cf|mc]
 way lost in the reams of pages in my sendmail book?  [2 da ago i send
 cold-call mail to a few experts; one at least read my paragraph.  
  i'd like
 to know at least that my mail arr and hopefully was glanced at!]
 
 
 I believe you're looking for a receipt confirmation tool, but I don't
 believe mutt has that capability, as its job is to write mail, and
 direct it to the MTA.
 
 Either way, receipt confirmations are not always accurate, as I never
 send confirmations that I have received mail -- then I'd *need* to
 reply.
 


:-)  i just want to know that the OP opened/saw/skimmed thru.
yes, i guess no reply means something... .

 
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Re: is there a way to get an ACK from the mutt version of FBSD?

2008-12-13 Thread Gary Kline
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 12:10:19AM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
 On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 13:50:53 -0800, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
  guys,
 
  i did something to evolution (or mail) so it sends a your mail was
  opened on u...@foo.com.  i've been hunting thru the mutt docs; i do
  not see how to get a similar ack from mutt as evo.  is there, perhaps
  a sendmail.[cf|mc] way lost in the reams of pages in my sendmail book?
  [2 da ago i send cold-call mail to a few experts; one at least read my
  paragraph.  i'd like to know at least that my mail arr and hopefully
  was glanced at!]
 
 I don't think there's a way to *force* the recipients of your messages
 to reply whenever they read a post.  Your MUA can ask for this sort of
 'email receipt', but the recipient can always ignore it.


certainly.


 
 My mailers always ignore this sort of mis-feature, for instance, because
 I consider it a violation of my privacy.  Whenever I get one of these
 ``call home'' emails, I can't help but think:
 
 ``Why would you want to know that I woke up in the middle of the night,
 fired up Emacs, read a few qmail messages, but then thought it best to
 keep sleeping rather than reply to your message?''
 
 Having said that, you can configure _your_ mutt instance to send DSN
 replies.  Look for the dsn_notify and dsn_return options in the manual
 of Mutt.
 

AH, alright; i shall look, thanx.  and i promise never to expect 
*anyone*
to 1) respond instantaneously, or 2) to even respond.  nonetheless, 
it'd be
nice to know that professor life-or-death GOT my message.  or maybe 
it was
a cat-on-keyboard.

ok.  it's set up.  now at least i know if the mail got to the other end.
no delay,failure.

thank you,

gary



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Re: is there a way to get an ACK from the mutt version of FBSD?

2008-12-13 Thread Gary Kline
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 12:41:57AM +0100, Polytropon wrote:
 I don't know if it has already been mentioned, but the only
 kind of receive confirmation you get from your FreeBSD system
 itself is the success entry in /var/log/maillog which will
 inform you that either the POP/SMTP server facility where
 the recipient has his mail account successfully received
 the message or the information that the SmartHost mail
 relay has accepted the message for relaying (in case your
 sendmail subsystem just hands mail over to a relay).
 
 Any kind of confirmation that the recipient has read the
 message is up to his mail client application.
 

eeep! maillog is usually my Last Resort.  thanks for the reminder.
according to sendmail, the log prints if the message was delivered.

never know how much is in the recipient's queue, of course... .

 
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Re: junk in remote mutt

2008-03-25 Thread Chad Perrin
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 07:23:43AM +0300, Yuri Pankov wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 04:03:54PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
  I'm not sure that's a very good title for this email, but it's what I've
  got.
  
  Since configuring my environment to use UTF-8, I've had a problem while
  checking email on a server.  I log into the server via SSH, then enter
  the `mutt` command.  As I page through the inbox, open and close emails,
  et cetera, I get a bunch of junk on the screen -- characters from the
  previous screen appearing on the current screen.  I have to use Ctrl + L
  to clear it up and return the appearance of the screen to the way it's
  supposed to look.
  
  What can I do to eliminate this problem?  I don't want to have to force a
  screen redraw every time I switch between views, scroll down a page in
  mutt, and so on.  I also don't want to go back to a character set limited
  to plain ol' ASCII (there's a reason I use rxvt-unicode instead of rxvt).
 
 Don't see it here. If you are sure that mutt uses UTF-8 charset (ie,
 forced it with 'set charset=utf-8'), make sure it's linked against
 ncursesw library (and not just ncurses) - need to use WITH_NCURSES_PORT
 on 6.2 and earlier or build it using WITH_SLANG.

I finally got around to checking the settings in the Makefile and
recompiling mutt.  End result: same problem.  If anyone else has any
ideas what might be causing this problem, please let me know.

addendum: The computer I'm using as a client to access mutt on another
machine doesn't have this same problem locally.  When I open a local mutt
instance, there's no junk on the screen.  I decided to try using SSH
through the remote system where I'm encountering this issue, then from
there using SSH to get back to the local machine, and opened mutt inside
this contrived SSH loop.  Still no problem.  Thus, whatever the problem
is seems to be particular to the remote machine.

I'm going to poke around some more and see if I can figure out what's up
while I wait for a response from anyone else who might have something to
offer, now that I've confirmed it seems to be specific to that machine.
Hopefully it's not related to the fact that the remote system is running
6.1-RELEASE while the system I'm using as a client is running
6.2-RELEASE, since that would pretty much mean I'm stuck with the
problem for quite some time (no desire to upgrade the FreeBSD version
number on the server).

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Re: junk in remote mutt

2008-03-25 Thread Bill Campbell
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008, Chad Perrin wrote:
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 07:23:43AM +0300, Yuri Pankov wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 04:03:54PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
  I'm not sure that's a very good title for this email, but it's what I've
  got.
  
  Since configuring my environment to use UTF-8, I've had a problem while
  checking email on a server.  I log into the server via SSH, then enter
  the `mutt` command.  As I page through the inbox, open and close emails,
  et cetera, I get a bunch of junk on the screen -- characters from the
  previous screen appearing on the current screen.  I have to use Ctrl + L
  to clear it up and return the appearance of the screen to the way it's
  supposed to look.
  
  What can I do to eliminate this problem?  I don't want to have to force a
  screen redraw every time I switch between views, scroll down a page in
  mutt, and so on.  I also don't want to go back to a character set limited
  to plain ol' ASCII (there's a reason I use rxvt-unicode instead of rxvt).
 
 Don't see it here. If you are sure that mutt uses UTF-8 charset (ie,
 forced it with 'set charset=utf-8'), make sure it's linked against
 ncursesw library (and not just ncurses) - need to use WITH_NCURSES_PORT
 on 6.2 and earlier or build it using WITH_SLANG.

I finally got around to checking the settings in the Makefile and
recompiling mutt.  End result: same problem.  If anyone else has any
ideas what might be causing this problem, please let me know.

addendum: The computer I'm using as a client to access mutt on another
machine doesn't have this same problem locally.  When I open a local mutt
instance, there's no junk on the screen.  I decided to try using SSH
through the remote system where I'm encountering this issue, then from
there using SSH to get back to the local machine, and opened mutt inside
this contrived SSH loop.  Still no problem.  Thus, whatever the problem
is seems to be particular to the remote machine.


What is your TERM environment variable setting?  Are the terminfo
files on the remote system current?

I'm reasonably sure that mutt uses ncurses, and if it is not
built correctly, that could also cause problems.

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Re: junk in remote mutt

2008-03-25 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 11:32:24PM -0700, Bill Campbell wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 25, 2008, Chad Perrin wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 07:23:43AM +0300, Yuri Pankov wrote:
  On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 04:03:54PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
   I'm not sure that's a very good title for this email, but it's what I've
   got.
   
   Since configuring my environment to use UTF-8, I've had a problem while
   checking email on a server.  I log into the server via SSH, then enter
   the `mutt` command.  As I page through the inbox, open and close emails,
   et cetera, I get a bunch of junk on the screen -- characters from the
   previous screen appearing on the current screen.  I have to use Ctrl + L
   to clear it up and return the appearance of the screen to the way it's
   supposed to look.
   
   What can I do to eliminate this problem?  I don't want to have to force a
   screen redraw every time I switch between views, scroll down a page in
   mutt, and so on.  I also don't want to go back to a character set limited
   to plain ol' ASCII (there's a reason I use rxvt-unicode instead of rxvt).
  
  Don't see it here. If you are sure that mutt uses UTF-8 charset (ie,
  forced it with 'set charset=utf-8'), make sure it's linked against
  ncursesw library (and not just ncurses) - need to use WITH_NCURSES_PORT
  on 6.2 and earlier or build it using WITH_SLANG.
 
 I finally got around to checking the settings in the Makefile and
 recompiling mutt.  End result: same problem.  If anyone else has any
 ideas what might be causing this problem, please let me know.
 
 addendum: The computer I'm using as a client to access mutt on another
 machine doesn't have this same problem locally.  When I open a local mutt
 instance, there's no junk on the screen.  I decided to try using SSH
 through the remote system where I'm encountering this issue, then from
 there using SSH to get back to the local machine, and opened mutt inside
 this contrived SSH loop.  Still no problem.  Thus, whatever the problem
 is seems to be particular to the remote machine.
 
 
 What is your TERM environment variable setting?  Are the terminfo
 files on the remote system current?

The TERM environment variable on both systems is set to `rxvt`.  I'm not
sure what I should be looking for to be sure the terminfo file is
correct.


 
 I'm reasonably sure that mutt uses ncurses, and if it is not
 built correctly, that could also cause problems.

I have tried both the default (WITH_SLANG=yes) and WITH_NCURSES_PORT=yes
on the remote system.  Otherwise, I haven't mucked about with the
Makefile of mutt at all.

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junk in remote mutt

2008-03-17 Thread Chad Perrin
I'm not sure that's a very good title for this email, but it's what I've
got.

Since configuring my environment to use UTF-8, I've had a problem while
checking email on a server.  I log into the server via SSH, then enter
the `mutt` command.  As I page through the inbox, open and close emails,
et cetera, I get a bunch of junk on the screen -- characters from the
previous screen appearing on the current screen.  I have to use Ctrl + L
to clear it up and return the appearance of the screen to the way it's
supposed to look.

What can I do to eliminate this problem?  I don't want to have to force a
screen redraw every time I switch between views, scroll down a page in
mutt, and so on.  I also don't want to go back to a character set limited
to plain ol' ASCII (there's a reason I use rxvt-unicode instead of rxvt).

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Re: junk in remote mutt

2008-03-17 Thread Yuri Pankov
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 04:03:54PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
 I'm not sure that's a very good title for this email, but it's what I've
 got.
 
 Since configuring my environment to use UTF-8, I've had a problem while
 checking email on a server.  I log into the server via SSH, then enter
 the `mutt` command.  As I page through the inbox, open and close emails,
 et cetera, I get a bunch of junk on the screen -- characters from the
 previous screen appearing on the current screen.  I have to use Ctrl + L
 to clear it up and return the appearance of the screen to the way it's
 supposed to look.
 
 What can I do to eliminate this problem?  I don't want to have to force a
 screen redraw every time I switch between views, scroll down a page in
 mutt, and so on.  I also don't want to go back to a character set limited
 to plain ol' ASCII (there's a reason I use rxvt-unicode instead of rxvt).
 
 -- 
 CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ]
 Patrick J. LoPresti: Emacs has been replaced by a shell script which 1)
 Generates a syslog message at level LOG_EMERG; 2) reduces the user's disk
 quota by 100K; and 3) RUNS ED!!

Don't see it here. If you are sure that mutt uses UTF-8 charset (ie,
forced it with 'set charset=utf-8'), make sure it's linked against
ncursesw library (and not just ncurses) - need to use WITH_NCURSES_PORT
on 6.2 and earlier or build it using WITH_SLANG.


HTH,
Yuri
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Re: mail checker for evo/kmail//mutt-IMAP

2008-02-07 Thread Daniel Bye
On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 06:18:22PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
   Can anybody point me to a mailbox checker that works from a
   desktop and watches (via network), the mail server?   Until my
   re-org, xbiff was sufficient.   But no mo'.

I've just started using mail/mail-notification, which follows the
Open Desktop standards - so should work just fine with KDE/Gnome/XFCE
etc. I'm using it to check my IMAP mailboxes. It supports SSL/TLS, and
several different mailbox formats.

Dan

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mail checker for evo/kmail//mutt-IMAP

2008-02-06 Thread Gary Kline
Can anybody point me to a mailbox checker that works from a
desktop and watches (via network), the mail server?   Until my
re-org, xbiff was sufficient.   But no mo'.

thanks for any suggestions,

gary

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Re: why am i sending mutt mail with my FQDN??

2008-01-27 Thread Gary Kline
On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 07:19:48PM -0500, Chuck Swiger wrote:
 
 I0/85/212006
 MDeferred: 450 4.7.1 tao.thought.org: Helo command rejected: Host not 
 found
 ${if_addr}127.0.0.1
 S[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 MDeferred: 450 4.7.1 tao.thought.org: Helo command rejected: Host not 
 found
 rRFC822; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 
 Yes, you should either set up working DNS for all of your machines which 
 send email (if you control the DNS for thought.org, consider using DynDNS 
 or equivalent so that tao.thought.org is resolvable) or (depending on 
 whether you have administrative control over the destination SMART_HOST 
 mailserver) look into the access map:
 
   http://www.sendmail.org/m4/anti_spam.html#access_db
 
 ...or, failing that, enabling these with caution:
 
 accept_unresolvable_domains
   Normally, MAIL FROM: commands in the SMTP session will be
   refused if the host part of the argument to MAIL FROM:
   cannot be located in the host name service (e.g., an A or
   MX record in DNS).  If you are inside a firewall that has
   only a limited view of the Internet host name space, this
   could cause problems.  In this case you probably want to
   use this feature to accept all domains on input, even if
   they are unresolvable.


Well, it looks as tho the remote hosts (like magnesium.net)
are rejecting my mail.  I was wrong a couple days ago when Isaid that
MASQUERADE_AS() and FEATURE() were successfuly rewriting my 
envelope. Further tests ptoved that. And while it's easy enough to ssh 
over  
here (aristotle) and run mutt, U'd rather figure out the mutt/imap
opttions as the mutt manual deetails.   I haave control of the 
entire ``thought.org'' dmain.  The complications are that  my DNS 
records may not be correctly configured.  Also that my nice,
new, bulletproof firewall may be an issue, altho I doubr it.


 
 relay_entire_domain
   This option allows any host in your domain as defined by
   class {m} to use your server for relaying.  Notice: make
   sure that your domain is not just a top level domain,
   e.g., com.  This can happen if you give your host a name
   like example.com instead of host.example.com.
 
 You can also define your local host name (aka class w) to be something 
 which the other machine can resolve.  By the way, an excerpt from the mail 
 logs (/var/log/mail.log) are the best source of info for relaying issues, 
 although it is possible to figure out some of the issues from a stuck 
 message in the spool.


My network looks llike this:

INTERNET - Firewall - 

sage [ which runs one jail with DNS, web, and mail ]

sage feeds my desktops, one laptop, and other Windows
computers.

For reasons that are beyond me, working on desktop tao and
going thru aristotle's IMAP service, the FROM remains 
``tao.thought.org'' when mail goes out the wire.  Ionly have
one sendmail now--on aristotle--and that was where I put the
MASQUERADE_AS/FEATURE lines.  How/why sendmail isn't dooing this
is beyond me.  

 It's also possible that if you set your SMART_HOST to your ISP's 
 mailserver, and configure authentication with them, they will let you relay 
 even if your mail submission is using local/invalid DNS hostnames.


I think that *I* am my SMART_HOST! This, according to my ISP
who doesn't seem eager to deal with my configs.   Better, IMO,
to figure out this confusion  and get this working at my end. 

I'll try to define local host names (class w); see if that
helps.

gary


PS:  ANYBody who knows where things are fouled up, please 
jump in !


 
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 -- 
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Re: why am i sending mutt mail with my FQDN??

2008-01-26 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2008-01-25 16:50, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The problem with trying to use mutt, even when I reach my mailserver
 on aristotle.thought.org, is that *somehow* -- I do not understand how
 -- but for some reason, mutt tacks on the FDQN rather than simply my
 domain name.  I was using Giorgos' $MAIL env variable; now that I
 switched to Baptiste's longer method:: same thing.  mutt still
 prepends the hostname.
 
 The following I sent to myself,
 
 From: Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:   testing
 To: Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 it never reached me at magnesium.net.  Can anybody  clue me in?

That's not a mutt problem.  If you want email from `tao.thought.org' to
masquerade as email from `thought.org', you should configure your MTA to
do this (Sendmail, Postfix or other).

See the section:

+---+
| MASQUERADING AND RELAYING |
+---+

in `/usr/share/sendmail/cf/README', for more details :)

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Re: why am i sending mutt mail with my FQDN??

2008-01-26 Thread Chuck Swiger

Gary Kline wrote:

On Friday 25 January 2008 17:12:35 you wrote:

On Jan 25, 2008, at 4:50 PM, Gary Kline wrote:

The problem with t rying to use mutt, even when I reach my
mailserver on
aristotle.thought.org, is that *somehow* -- I do not understand how
-- but
for some reason, mutt tacks on the FDQN rather than simply my domain
name.

[ ... ]


it never reached me at magnesium.net.  Can anybody clue me in?

Sure.  If you want to masquerade a local machine's FQDN to just your
domain name, follow the happy instructions from the FAQ:

   http://www.sendmail.org/m4/masquerading.html


well, i tried what was in the Sendmail.cf/README; I put the
MASQUERADE_AS() into both mc files.  Below is the evidence that
it didn't work.   Any other pages you can suggest...?


I0/85/212006
MDeferred: 450 4.7.1 tao.thought.org: Helo command rejected: Host not found
Fbs
$_localhost [127.0.0.1]
$rESMTP
$stao.thought.org
${daemon_flags}
${if_addr}127.0.0.1
S[EMAIL PROTECTED]
MDeferred: 450 4.7.1 tao.thought.org: Helo command rejected: Host not found
rRFC822; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org


Yes, you should either set up working DNS for all of your machines which send 
email (if you control the DNS for thought.org, consider using DynDNS or 
equivalent so that tao.thought.org is resolvable) or (depending on whether you 
have administrative control over the destination SMART_HOST mailserver) look 
into the access map:


  http://www.sendmail.org/m4/anti_spam.html#access_db

...or, failing that, enabling these with caution:

accept_unresolvable_domains
Normally, MAIL FROM: commands in the SMTP session will be
refused if the host part of the argument to MAIL FROM:
cannot be located in the host name service (e.g., an A or
MX record in DNS).  If you are inside a firewall that has
only a limited view of the Internet host name space, this
could cause problems.  In this case you probably want to
use this feature to accept all domains on input, even if
they are unresolvable.

relay_entire_domain
This option allows any host in your domain as defined by
class {m} to use your server for relaying.  Notice: make
sure that your domain is not just a top level domain,
e.g., com.  This can happen if you give your host a name
like example.com instead of host.example.com.

You can also define your local host name (aka class w) to be something which 
the other machine can resolve.  By the way, an excerpt from the mail logs 
(/var/log/mail.log) are the best source of info for relaying issues, although 
it is possible to figure out some of the issues from a stuck message in the spool.


It's also possible that if you set your SMART_HOST to your ISP's mailserver, 
and configure authentication with them, they will let you relay even if your 
mail submission is using local/invalid DNS hostnames.


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why am i sending mutt mail with my FQDN??

2008-01-25 Thread Gary Kline


The problem with t rying to use mutt, even when I reach my mailserver on 
aristotle.thought.org, is that *somehow* -- I do not understand how -- but 
for some reason, mutt tacks on the FDQN rather than simply my domain name.
I was using Giorgos' $MAIL env variable; now that I switched to Baptiste's 
longer method:: same thing.  mutt still prepends the hostname.

The following I sent to myself,

From: Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:   testing
To: Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]

it never reached me at magnesium.net.  Can anybody  clue me in?
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Re: why am i sending mutt mail with my FQDN??

2008-01-25 Thread Gary Kline
On Friday 25 January 2008 17:12:35 Chuck Swiger wrote:
 On Jan 25, 2008, at 4:50 PM, Gary Kline wrote:
  The problem with t rying to use mutt, even when I reach my
  mailserver on
  aristotle.thought.org, is that *somehow* -- I do not understand how
  -- but
  for some reason, mutt tacks on the FDQN rather than simply my domain
  name.

 [ ... ]

  it never reached me at magnesium.net.  Can anybody clue me in?

 Sure.  If you want to masquerade a local machine's FQDN to just your
 domain name, follow the happy instructions from the FAQ:

http://www.sendmail.org/m4/masquerading.html

I couldn't find anythinng on the page you pointed me at. I added 
MASQUERADE_AS() to both mc files, first one, then the other,
then both.   Would up breaking even this configuration.   I think that 
the MASQUERADE_AS() functionality enables only to change 
host+domain rather that rewrite the address only with the domain name.


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Re: why am i sending mutt mail with my FQDN??

2008-01-25 Thread Chuck Swiger

On Jan 25, 2008, at 4:50 PM, Gary Kline wrote:
The problem with t rying to use mutt, even when I reach my  
mailserver on
aristotle.thought.org, is that *somehow* -- I do not understand how  
-- but
for some reason, mutt tacks on the FDQN rather than simply my domain  
name.

[ ... ]

it never reached me at magnesium.net.  Can anybody clue me in?


Sure.  If you want to masquerade a local machine's FQDN to just your  
domain name, follow the happy instructions from the FAQ:


  http://www.sendmail.org/m4/masquerading.html

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Mutt and IMAP, evo and icons (was: mail questions: mutt and KDE)

2008-01-24 Thread Baptiste Grenier
Le 24/01/08 à 03:06, Gary Kline téléscripta :
   People,

Hi,

 (...)
  I want to get mutt functional since most of my mailis ASCII or 8859-15.  For 
   friends who mail me URL's of pics, I use the GUI mail user agents.   Is 
 there 
   a way me me, on desktops (FBSD and Ubuntu) to send/receive via the 
 mailserver?
 (...)
   (I recently learned most of the other one, evo, and it does build, but 
 I'm 
   missing its icons...   I see tiny squares with red X's inside.  But 
 this is
   another issue. For now, I'd be happy with some clues about the Kmail 
 strangeness
   and the mutt+IMAP stuff.)

Foolowing the advices of Girogos, you should be able to use mutt with
imap, I do, and it works quite well, the thing that I miss is
the abilitty to view the number of new mail an imap folder has when
swithching between folders using 'c' . Does anybody be able to do this ?

Here are the relevant parts of my conf (I access a TLS/SSL protected dovecot
server):

# TLS
set ssl_starttls

# Don't wait to enter mailbox manually
unset imap_passive

# Management of multiple imap accounts
account-hook . 'unset imap_user; unset imap_pass'

# plop.org imaps
account-hook imaps://imap.plop.org/ 'set imap_user=baptiste 
imap_pass=XX'
account-hook imaps://imap.plop.org/ 'set spoolfile=imaps://imap.plop.org/INBOX'
account-hook imaps://imap.plop.org/ 'set folder=imaps://imap.plop.org/INBOX'
account-hook imaps://imap.plop.org/ 'set mbox=imaps://imap.plop.org/INBOX'
account-hook imaps://imap.plop.org/ 'set 
record=imaps://imap.plop.org/INBOX.Sent'
account-hook imaps://imap.plop.org/ 'set 
postponed=imaps://imap.plop.org/INBOX.Postponed'
account-hook imaps://imap.plop.org/ 'save-hook . +'

I start mutt like this:

mutt -f imaps://imap.plop.org

For the problem with the evolution icons, it's that you need to launch
gnome-settings-daemon (it needs a dbus session too).

In my xinitrc, I have this:

if which dbus-launch /dev/null  test -z $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS; then
eval `dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session`
fi
/usr/local/libexec/gnome-settings-daemon 

   tia, guys,
   gary

HTH,
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mail questions: mutt and KDE

2008-01-23 Thread Gary Kline


People,

Here's hopping that I'm still subscribed to the kde list, and that 
somebody can 
answer these general mail-type questions.  Once I have Kmail working on 
my own
domain, I'll be able to use that as a lifeline.  Also, I would like 
some clues
of how to if IF I  can use mutt *with* IMAP.

Since my network re-org, THOUGHT.ORG is now behind a stand-alone 
firewall.
AFAIK, nothing/nobody, not even me, can crack my f'wall.  My 
server/desktop 
is not running 3 servers within one jail: DNS, web, and email.  Still 
using
sendmail as my MTA, the rest of it is evolution and/or kmail.  USing 
IMAP
from my two desktops to the mailserver.   I Do not understand much of 
this yet, 
do Please bear with me.

I want to get mutt functional since most of my mailis ASCII or 8859-15. 
 For 
friends who mail me URL's of pics, I use the GUI mail user agents.   Is 
there 
a way me me, on desktops (FBSD and Ubuntu) to send/receive via the 
mailserver?

The Kmail question is a bit on the strange side.  When I hit the 
reply icon,
a composer window pops up, but I cannot type in it!  There is no echo 
to stdout.
But the scroll-bar moves up so I'm guessing that **something** is being 
stuffed 
into the the composer buffer.  Have any of you guys seen this before?

(I recently learned most of the other one, evo, and it does build, but 
I'm 
missing its icons...   I see tiny squares with red X's inside.  But 
this is
another issue. For now, I'd be happy with some clues about the Kmail 
strangeness
and the mutt+IMAP stuff.)

tia, guys,

gary


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Using mutt to access imap folders (was: mail questions: mutt and KDE)

2008-01-23 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
freebsd-kde stripped from the recipient list.

Gary it's probably better to post *two* messages if you have two
unrelated questions.  This way the traffic in freebsd-kde will not get
'polluted' with all the replies about mutt, which isn't really related
to KDE on FreeBSD.

On 2008-01-23 18:24, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Here's hopping that I'm still subscribed to the kde list, and that
 somebody can answer these general mail-type questions.

You don't have to be subscribed to freebsd-kde to post.

 Also, I would like some clues of how to if IF I can use mutt *with*
 IMAP.

You can set ${MAIL} in your environment to an imap folder.  Then firing
up mutt will select the imap folder by default, and you will be prompted
for a password.

Try for example the following:

$ MAIL='imap://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/INBOX'

You can store the IMAP username and password in ~/.muttrc too, but then
you should pay careful attention to the permissions of the file (even in
an internal network, it never hurts to be a bit cautious).  The
following in your ~/.muttrc should do the trick:

set imap_user='gkeramidas'
set imap_pass='achmed!the!terrorist'

Then fire up mutt, and enjoy your new IMAP session.

One word of caution though.  Setting $MAIL to an IMAP folder path in
your default environment may upset programs which don't really speak
IMAP the way mutt does, i.e. the command-line mail(1) utility.

The manual of mutt, which is accessible by hitting F1 while inside
mutt, is also a valuable resource for this sort of questions.
Specifically, the following section includes a very good example of how
you can handle multiple IMAP accounts in a single mutt session:

| 13. Managing multiple IMAP/POP accounts (OPTIONAL)
|
| If you happen to have accounts on multiple IMAP and/or POP
| servers, you may find managing all the authentication settings
| inconvenient and error-prone. The account-hook command may
| help. This hook works like folder-hook but is invoked whenever
| you access a remote mailbox (including inside the folder
| browser), not just when you open the mailbox.
|
| Some examples:
|
| account-hook . 'unset imap_user; unset imap_pass; unset tunnel'
| account-hook imap://host1/ 'set imap_user=me1 imap_pass=foo'
| account-hook imap://host2/ 'set tunnel=ssh host2 /usr/libexec/imapd'

There are *many* other details in the manual about using mutt to access
IMAP folders.  You should definitely skim through the text at least
once in case you find some interesting option.

A text version of the full manual is available in /usr/local too:

/usr/local/share/doc/mutt/manual.txt

This is, actually, the file that you get to read when you hit F1
inside mutt.

- Giorgos

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mutt??

2007-12-27 Thread Gary Kline




I've been trtryinng to rebuild everything on tao to get my i810
graphics working. Somehow, mutt bbroke. It seems to break with 
something undefined in perl5.8. 

Anybody know what this is:

 Undefined symbol __sbmaskrune  ?

tia, 

gary

PS: I get the same thing from building other versions of mutt, too.


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Re: mutt??

2007-12-27 Thread perryh
Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 2007-12-27 11:02, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I've been trtryinng to rebuild everything on tao to get my i810
  graphics working. Somehow, mutt bbroke. It seems to break with
  something undefined in perl5.8.
 
  Anybody know what this is:
  Undefined symbol __sbmaskrune  ?

 That's odd.  The mutt-devel port (which I am using to type
 and post this message) does not seem to depend on Perl:

Last time I recall seeing a symbol name ending in rune it
had something to do with handling charsets and/or locales.
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Re: mutt??

2007-12-27 Thread Roland Smith
On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 11:02:00AM -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
 
 
 
 
   I've been trtryinng to rebuild everything on tao to get my i810
   graphics working. Somehow, mutt bbroke. It seems to break with 
   something undefined in perl5.8. 

I don't think it is perl; mutt doesn't depend on it.

   Anybody know what this is:
 
  Undefined symbol __sbmaskrune  ?
 
   tia, 

If you google for __sbmaskrune, you'll find this;
http://bsdpants.blogspot.com/2007/11/yuck-undefined-symbol-sbmaskrune.html

Looks like you'll have to update the base system to a state after the
following commit;
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-src/2007-November/084046.html


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Re: mutt??

2007-12-27 Thread Matthew Seaman
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Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
 On 2007-12-27 11:02, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've been trtryinng to rebuild everything on tao to get my i810
 graphics working. Somehow, mutt bbroke. It seems to break with
 something undefined in perl5.8.

 Anybody know what this is:
 Undefined symbol __sbmaskrune  ?
 
 That's odd.  The mutt-devel port (which I am using to type and post this
 message) does not seem to depend on Perl:
 
 % $ pkg_info -r mutt\*
 % Information for mutt-devel-...
 %
 % Depends on:
 % Dependency: ispell-3.2.06_18
 % Dependency: mime-support-3.39.1
 % Dependency: libiconv-1.11_1
 % Dependency: gettext-0.16.1_3
 %
 % $

This is caused by a change to various ctype functions to do with
improved UTF8 support recently, which inadvertently broke ABI
compatability on RELENG_6.  The change has since been reverted, but
it seems that you were unlucky enough to install or upgrade some
software during the month or so that it was in place, so that it
is referring to symbols that do not exist in libc.so.

Perl is just one of the places where __sbmaskrune can show up.
There's been quite a lot of discussion of it on various lists
recently:

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=enq=site%3Alists.freebsd.org+__sbmaskrunebtnG=Google+Searchmeta=

This, precisely, is the commit message where the ABI breakage you've
seen was created:

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-src/2007-October/082836.html

and here is where it was fixed:

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-src/2007-November/084046.html

To sort out your system, basically make sure you're running a RELENG_6
version from after the fix was committed, and then I'm afraid you've
just got to reinstall any software that shows the symptoms.   Anything
installed before the original commit that broke things will be fine --
it's just software that was recompiled using a RELENG_6 system from
between 24 October and 20 November.

It's only RELENG_6 that was affected -- the change went into
RELENG_7 (and HEAD) where ABI changes are permitted with the new major
version number, but RELENG_6_2, RELENG_6_3 and other release branches
never had this patch applied.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: mutt??

2007-12-27 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2007-12-27 11:02, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've been trtryinng to rebuild everything on tao to get my i810
 graphics working. Somehow, mutt bbroke. It seems to break with
 something undefined in perl5.8.

 Anybody know what this is:
 Undefined symbol __sbmaskrune  ?

That's odd.  The mutt-devel port (which I am using to type and post this
message) does not seem to depend on Perl:

% $ pkg_info -r mutt\*
% Information for mutt-devel-...
%
% Depends on:
% Dependency: ispell-3.2.06_18
% Dependency: mime-support-3.39.1
% Dependency: libiconv-1.11_1
% Dependency: gettext-0.16.1_3
%
% $

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Re: mutt??

2007-12-27 Thread Gary Kline
According to [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On 2007-12-27 11:02, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I've been trtryinng to rebuild everything on tao to get my i810
   graphics working. Somehow, mutt bbroke. It seems to break with
   something undefined in perl5.8.
  
   Anybody know what this is:
   Undefined symbol __sbmaskrune  ?
 
  That's odd.  The mutt-devel port (which I am using to type
  and post this message) does not seem to depend on Perl:
 
 Last time I recall seeing a symbol name ending in rune it
 had something to do with handling charsets and/or locales.


I saw that rune ending. perl5.8 wasn't it; more of the error
output pointed at one of the autoconfig's v 19 in devel.  I had
troubles there, so wound up swapping host foo {  }; in my
DNS server to reroute mail to my new ``tao''.   Some troubles 
with dhcp, but hopefully nothing thaat serious.   Am upgrading my
older tao 
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Re: mutt??

2007-12-27 Thread Gary Kline
According to Matthew Seaman:
 
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 Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
  On 2007-12-27 11:02, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I've been trtryinng to rebuild everything on tao to get my i810
  graphics working. Somehow, mutt bbroke. It seems to break with
  something undefined in perl5.8.
 
  Anybody know what this is:
  Undefined symbol __sbmaskrune  ?
  
  That's odd.  The mutt-devel port (which I am using to type and post this
  message) does not seem to depend on Perl:
  
  % $ pkg_info -r mutt\*
  % Information for mutt-devel-...
  %
  % Depends on:
  % Dependency: ispell-3.2.06_18
  % Dependency: mime-support-3.39.1
  % Dependency: libiconv-1.11_1
  % Dependency: gettext-0.16.1_3
  %
  % $
 
 This is caused by a change to various ctype functions to do with
 improved UTF8 support recently, which inadvertently broke ABI
 compatability on RELENG_6.  The change has since been reverted, but
 it seems that you were unlucky enough to install or upgrade some
 software during the month or so that it was in place, so that it
 is referring to symbols that do not exist in libc.so.
 
 Perl is just one of the places where __sbmaskrune can show up.
 There's been quite a lot of discussion of it on various lists
 recently:
 
 http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=enq=site%3Alists.freebsd.org+__sbmaskrunebtnG=Google+Searchmeta=
 
 This, precisely, is the commit message where the ABI breakage you've
 seen was created:
 
 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-src/2007-October/082836.html
 
 and here is where it was fixed:
 
 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-src/2007-November/084046.html
 
 To sort out your system, basically make sure you're running a RELENG_6
 version from after the fix was committed, and then I'm afraid you've
 just got to reinstall any software that shows the symptoms.   Anything
 installed before the original commit that broke things will be fine --
 it's just software that was recompiled using a RELENG_6 system from
 between 24 October and 20 November.
 
 It's only RELENG_6 that was affected -- the change went into
 RELENG_7 (and HEAD) where ABI changes are permitted with the new major
 version number, but RELENG_6_2, RELENG_6_3 and other release branches
 never had this patch applied.
 
   Cheers,
 
   Matthew
 


Thanks lots, Matthew.  I cvsup'd before my rebuild.  I'm 
running 6.2 or later everywhere.  Hopefully up rebuilds
will straighten things out.   

gary


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Re: Mutt Help

2007-10-04 Thread andrew clarke
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 01:37:11PM -0700, Bill Campbell wrote:

  Hi All...I am a newbie using Mutt, and I have Fetchmail running as
  daemon.  Fetchmail is doing its job, periodically retreiving my pop3
  mail, but I am so far unable to find the correct entry for the
  .muttrc file which will result in Mutt automatically retrieving mail
  from fetchmail.  Any help would be appreciated.

 By default, Fetchmail will put your mail wherever $MAIL points to. 
 Usually this is in a file named /var/mail/username, where username is
 your login name.
 
 I thought that the default for fetchmail was to pass the messages
 to the system's MTA (postfix, sendmail, etc.), not to attempt
 delivery itself.

Yes, but how mail gets from fetchmail to the main spool was not
critical.  I did not want to complicate the process in my reply.

Incidentally the OP's e-mail address is/was failing:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Connected to 68.178.232.99 but connection died. (#4.4.2)

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Re: Mutt Help

2007-10-02 Thread andrew clarke
On Sun, Sep 30, 2007 at 05:54:37PM -0700, Rem P Roberti wrote:

 Hi All...I am a newbie using Mutt, and I have Fetchmail running as
 daemon.  Fetchmail is doing its job, periodically retreiving my pop3
 mail, but I am so far unable to find the correct entry for the
 .muttrc file which will result in Mutt automatically retrieving mail
 from fetchmail.  Any help would be appreciated.

By default, Fetchmail will put your mail wherever $MAIL points to. 
Usually this is in a file named /var/mail/username, where username is
your login name.

$ echo $LOGNAME
ozzmosis
$ echo $MAIL
/var/mail/ozzmosis

And by default, Mutt will look in the same place, as per muttrc(5):

   spoolfile
  Type: path
  Default: 

  If your spool mailbox is in a non-default place where Mutt  can-
  not  find  it,  you can specify its location with this variable.
  Mutt will automatically set this variable to the  value  of  the
  environment variable $MAIL if it is not set.

I use Fetchmail, Procmail, SpamAssassin, Mutt and Postfix quite
successfully here.  :-)

Regards
Andrew
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Re: Mutt Help

2007-10-02 Thread Bill Campbell
On Wed, Oct 03, 2007, andrew clarke wrote:
On Sun, Sep 30, 2007 at 05:54:37PM -0700, Rem P Roberti wrote:

 Hi All...I am a newbie using Mutt, and I have Fetchmail running as
 daemon.  Fetchmail is doing its job, periodically retreiving my pop3
 mail, but I am so far unable to find the correct entry for the
 .muttrc file which will result in Mutt automatically retrieving mail
 from fetchmail.  Any help would be appreciated.

By default, Fetchmail will put your mail wherever $MAIL points to. 
Usually this is in a file named /var/mail/username, where username is
your login name.

I thought that the default for fetchmail was to pass the messages
to the system's MTA (postfix, sendmail, etc.), not to attempt
delivery itself.

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Re: Mutt Help

2007-10-02 Thread Don Read
On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 13:37:11 -0700 Bill Campbell said:

 On Wed, Oct 03, 2007, andrew clarke wrote:
 On Sun, Sep 30, 2007 at 05:54:37PM -0700, Rem P Roberti wrote:
snip
 
 By default, Fetchmail will put your mail wherever $MAIL points to. 
 Usually this is in a file named /var/mail/username, where username is
 your login name.
 
 I thought that the default for fetchmail was to pass the messages
 to the system's MTA (postfix, sendmail, etc.), not to attempt
 delivery itself.
 
 Bill

Correct.
quote:
   As each message is retrieved, fetchmail normally delivers it  via  SMTP
   to  port 25 on the machine it is running on (localhost), just as though
   it were being passed in over a normal TCP/IP link.  fetchmail  provides
   the  SMTP  server  with  an  envelope  recipient  derived in the manner
   described previously.  The mail will then be delivered locally via your
   system's  MDA (Mail Delivery Agent, usually sendmail(8) but your system
   may use a different one such as smail, mmdf, exim, postfix, or  qmail).
   All  the  delivery-control mechanisms (such as .forward files) normally
   available through your system MDA and local delivery agents will there-
   fore work automatically.

   If  no  port 25 listener is available, but your fetchmail configuration
   was told about a reliable local MDA, it will use  that  MDA  for  local
   delivery instead.
/quote

$ man fetchmail

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Re: Viewing jpegs with Mutt

2007-09-30 Thread Harry Matthiesen Jensen
On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 07:45:34PM -0700, Rem P Roberti wrote:
 Is it possible to view jpegs inline using the Mutt MUA?  If so, I
 would appreciate being directed to a site that would have that
 information.

To your .mailcap file, add:

# This maps all types of images (image/gif, image/jpeg, etc.)
# to the viewer 'display'.
image/*; display %s


I'm using the display command from ImageMagick, so you just have
replace that command to your preferable viewer.

Also remember you have to select v from within the e-mail in Mutt, and
then select the jpeg.

See also:
http://www.pantz.org/os/linux/programs/muttsetup.shtml

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Re: Viewing jpegs with Mutt

2007-09-30 Thread Rem P Roberti
On Sun, Sep 30, 2007 at 09:03:37AM +0200, Harry Matthiesen Jensen wrote:
 On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 07:45:34PM -0700, Rem P Roberti wrote:
  Is it possible to view jpegs inline using the Mutt MUA?  If so, I
  would appreciate being directed to a site that would have that
  information.
 
 To your .mailcap file, add:
 
 # This maps all types of images (image/gif, image/jpeg, etc.)
 # to the viewer 'display'.
 image/*; display %s
 
 
 I'm using the display command from ImageMagick, so you just have
 replace that command to your preferable viewer.
 
 Also remember you have to select v from within the e-mail in Mutt, and
 then select the jpeg.
 
 See also:
 http://www.pantz.org/os/linux/programs/muttsetup.shtml
 
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Wow!  That really worked well just the way it is.  Thank you very much.

Rem
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Mutt Help

2007-09-30 Thread Rem P Roberti

Hi All...I am a newbie using Mutt, and I have Fetchmail running as daemon.  
Fetchmail is doing its job, periodically
retreiving my pop3 mail, but I am so far unable to find the correct entry for 
the .muttrc file which will result
in Mutt automatically retrieving mail from fetchmail.  Any help would be 
appreciated.

Rem  
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Re: Mutt Help

2007-09-30 Thread Daniel Bye
On Sun, Sep 30, 2007 at 05:54:37PM -0700, Rem P Roberti wrote:
 
 Hi All...I am a newbie using Mutt, and I have Fetchmail running as daemon.  
 Fetchmail is doing its job, periodically retreiving my pop3 mail, but I am 
 so far unable to find the correct entry for the .muttrc file which will 
 result in Mutt automatically retrieving mail from fetchmail.  Any help 
 would be appreciated.

mutt can fetch mail from your POP3 server itself - without any need to
use fetchmail at all.

http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-4.html#ss4.10

If you need fetchmail for other reasons, then make sure it delivers 
messages to mutt's spoolfile.

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Viewing jpegs with Mutt

2007-09-29 Thread Rem P Roberti
Is it possible to view jpegs inline using the Mutt MUA?  If so, I
would appreciate being directed to a site that would have that
information.

Thanks,

Rem
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FreeBSD6.2/Fetchmail,Procmail and Mutt

2007-03-13 Thread Olivier Regnier

Hello,

I have a imap account and i want use procmail for filtering electronic 
mail directly on the imap server. I have 2 configuration files.


.fetchmailrc (chmod 600)
poll imp.server.org with proto IMAP
user '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' there with password 'mypassword' is 'olivier' here 
keep;

mda /usr/local/bin/procmail -Y -d %T

.procmailrc
# settings
VERBOSE=yes
LOGNAME=olivier
SHELL=/usr/local/bin/zsh
PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:$HOME/bin
MAILDIR=imaps://imp.server.org/
DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/INBOX
LOGFILE=$HOME/.procmail/procmail.log

:0:
* ^To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
$DEFAULT/Stuff

:0
$DEFAULT

I don't know what happened but filtering don't work at all. It is 
possible to use procmail directly on the server ?


Thank you :)

Olivier Regnier
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cyrus imap: seems Ok, but can't connect with mutt on localhost

2006-12-05 Thread David Landgren

List,

I have recently set up cyrus IMAP (from ports) and it seems to be 
behaving itself:


% imtest localhost
S: * OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4 IMAP4rev1 LITERAL+ ID AUTH=DIGEST-MD5 SASL-IR] 
example.com Cyrus IMAP4 v2.3.7 server ready

C: C01 CAPABILITY
S: * CAPABILITY IMAP4 IMAP4rev1 LITERAL+ ID AUTH=DIGEST-MD5 SASL-IR ACL 
RIGHTS=kxte QUOTA MAILBOX-REFERRALS NAMESPACE UIDPLUS NO_ATOMIC_RENAME 
UNSELECT CHILDREN MULTIAPPEND BINARY SORT SORT=MODSEQ 
THREAD=ORDEREDSUBJECT THREAD=REFERENCES ANNOTATEMORE CATENATE CONDSTORE 
IDLE LISTEXT LIST-SUBSCRIBED X-NETSCAPE URLAUTH

S: C01 OK Completed
C: A01 AUTHENTICATE DIGEST-MD5
S: + bm9uY2U...cw==
Please enter your password:
C: dXNlcm5h...mZjE=
S: + cnNwYXV0aD1hYmQ4ZWIyNmYwOWRlMzEyMjQxNzY4M2ZmN2MxMzI1Ng==
C:
S: A01 OK Success (privacy protection)
Authenticated.
Security strength factor: 128
. logout
* BYE LOGOUT received
. OK Completed
Connection closed.

Similarly, I can send an SMTP message to port 25, and watch Postfix 
correctly deliver it to cyrus, which squirrels it away in its spool. As 
a final test, I thought I should be able to access the IMAP folder on 
localhost via mutt. But it doesn't seem to work. When I fire up mutt 
(compiled from ports) and try to change folders:


  c imap://localhost/INBOX

It just hangs, with a Connecting to localhost... status message.

All I see in /var/log/debug.log is:

  Dec  5 23:27:20 localhost imap[56129]: accepted connection

Nothing in any other log files. Is there something really obvious that 
I'm overlooking?


Thanks,
David
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can't built /usr/ports/mail/mutt-ng

2006-10-04 Thread Jeff Dickens

This happens:

y# make
===  Vulnerability check disabled, database not found
===  Found saved configuration for mutt-ng-20051110_1
= muttng-20051110.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/.
= Attempting to fetch from http://nion.modprobe.de/mutt-ng/snapshots/.
fetch: http://nion.modprobe.de/mutt-ng/snapshots/muttng-20051110.tar.gz: 
Network is unreachable
= Attempting to fetch from 
ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/.
muttng-20051110.tar.gz100% of 2668 kB  215 kBps 
00m00s

===  Extracting for mutt-ng-20051110_1
= MD5 Checksum OK for muttng-20051110.tar.gz.
= SHA256 Checksum OK for muttng-20051110.tar.gz.
===  Patching for mutt-ng-20051110_1
===  Applying FreeBSD patches for mutt-ng-20051110_1
===   mutt-ng-20051110_1 depends on executable: lynx - found
===   mutt-ng-20051110_1 depends on executable: sgmlfmt - found
===   mutt-ng-20051110_1 depends on shared library: db41.1 - not found
===Verifying install for db41.1 in /usr/ports/databases/db41
===  Vulnerability check disabled, database not found
= db-4.1.25.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/bdb.
= Attempting to fetch from http://downloads.sleepycat.com/.
fetch: http://downloads.sleepycat.com/db-4.1.25.tar.gz: Network is 
unreachable
= Attempting to fetch from 
ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/bdb/.
fetch: 
ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/bdb/db-4.1.25.tar.gz: 
size mismatch: expected 3080234, actual 2901161

= Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this
= port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles/bdb and try again.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/databases/db41.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/mail/mutt-ng.


I'd go pack and de-select the db4 caching business but I can't figure 
out how to get to the config menu again

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Re: can't built /usr/ports/mail/mutt-ng

2006-10-04 Thread ajm
On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 03:10:16PM -0400, Jeff Dickens wrote:
 This happens:
 
 y# make
 ===  Vulnerability check disabled, database not found
 ===  Found saved configuration for mutt-ng-20051110_1
 = muttng-20051110.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/.
 = Attempting to fetch from http://nion.modprobe.de/mutt-ng/snapshots/.
 fetch: http://nion.modprobe.de/mutt-ng/snapshots/muttng-20051110.tar.gz: 
 Network is unreachable
 = Attempting to fetch from 
 ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/.
 muttng-20051110.tar.gz100% of 2668 kB  215 kBps 
 00m00s
 ===  Extracting for mutt-ng-20051110_1
 = MD5 Checksum OK for muttng-20051110.tar.gz.
 = SHA256 Checksum OK for muttng-20051110.tar.gz.
 ===  Patching for mutt-ng-20051110_1
 ===  Applying FreeBSD patches for mutt-ng-20051110_1
 ===   mutt-ng-20051110_1 depends on executable: lynx - found
 ===   mutt-ng-20051110_1 depends on executable: sgmlfmt - found
 ===   mutt-ng-20051110_1 depends on shared library: db41.1 - not found
 ===Verifying install for db41.1 in /usr/ports/databases/db41
 ===  Vulnerability check disabled, database not found
 = db-4.1.25.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/bdb.
 = Attempting to fetch from http://downloads.sleepycat.com/.
 fetch: http://downloads.sleepycat.com/db-4.1.25.tar.gz: Network is 
 unreachable
 = Attempting to fetch from 
 ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/bdb/.
 fetch: 
 ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/bdb/db-4.1.25.tar.gz: 
 size mismatch: expected 3080234, actual 2901161
 = Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this
 = port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles/bdb and try again.
 *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in /usr/ports/databases/db41.
 *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in /usr/ports/mail/mutt-ng.
 
 
 I'd go pack and de-select the db4 caching business but I can't figure 
 out how to get to the config menu again

go to your /mail/mutt-ng directory and execute
make config

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Re: mutt

2006-02-27 Thread Bill Campbell
On Mon, Feb 27, 2006, a wrote:
How to set SMTP server for mutt? 
I have different POP and SMTP servers.

As far as I know, mutt expects to pipe its output to a program,
sendmail by default.  The default value in my ~/.muttrc file is:

set sendmail=/usr/lib/sendmail -oem -oi

Looking at the ``man muttrc'', I didn't see any references to
SMTP delivery.  If I didn't have a working sendmail interface, I
would write a python or perl script that would handle the SMTP
delivery, and pipe to that.

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Re: mutt

2006-02-27 Thread Michael Hernandez


On Feb 27, 2006, at 1:19 PM, Bill Campbell wrote:


On Mon, Feb 27, 2006, a wrote:

How to set SMTP server for mutt?
I have different POP and SMTP servers.


As far as I know, mutt expects to pipe its output to a program,
sendmail by default.  The default value in my ~/.muttrc file is:

set sendmail=/usr/lib/sendmail -oem -oi

Looking at the ``man muttrc'', I didn't see any references to
SMTP delivery.  If I didn't have a working sendmail interface, I
would write a python or perl script that would handle the SMTP
delivery, and pipe to that.



This really isn't a freebsd issue at all... You can ask in #mutt on  
freenode or try to google for mutt smtp.
There are many ways to configure mutt to work with multiple pop and/ 
or imap accounts.
There are also sample configs (.muttrc files) on the mutt wiki.  
Actually you should google
before you ask for help in #mutt because they'll just tell you check  
the wiki  ;)


FWIW, I use msmtp to handle the sending of mail, it's a very small  
smtp server that only functions
as a forwarder to external smtp servers (like your ISP's for  
example). There are also available
docs for using msmtp with mutt, including how to set up .msmtprc  
and .muttrc.


One last note, if you want to read  send your gmail with mutt/ 
fetchmail/msmtp you need either mutt-ng
or the latest snapshot of mutt (took me a lot of searching to figure  
that out)


Good luck :)


Mike

PS http://www.mutt.org
PPS http://wiki.mutt.org
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mutt

2006-02-26 Thread a
How to set SMTP server for mutt? 
I have different POP and SMTP servers.

Elisej Babenko 
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Re: mutt

2006-02-26 Thread Allen
On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 09:17:49 +0200
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 How to set SMTP server for mutt? 
 I have different POP and SMTP servers.

Use fetchmail or getmail

/etc/Muttrc is where you can set the other options

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Mutt weirdness

2005-10-04 Thread Bob Hall
I did portupgrade -ar last night. When I tried to use mutt this 
morning, it was behaving weirdly. Mutt wasn't one of the upgrades.


Anything involving the display at the bottom of the mutt screen doesn't 
work. If I type c to change the mailbox, nothing happens. If I type 
d, I can mark a mail for deletion, but I can't quit mutt because 
quitting requires a message at the bottom of the screen asking if I want 
to delete the messages marked for deletion. Typing y has no effect. I 
have to unmark the mail in order to quit.


I'm using 5.2.1. A list of the updated ports follows. I have no idea 
which one's may be causing the problem.


XFree86-Server-4.5.0_1needs updating (port has 4.5.0_3)
docbook-xsl-1.68.1needs updating (port has 1.69.1)
gd-2.0.33_1,1 needs updating (port has 2.0.33_2,1)
gtk-2.6.8 needs updating (port has 2.6.10_1)
libwmf-0.2.8.3needs updating (port has 0.2.8.4)
libxml2-2.6.21needs updating (port has 2.6.22)
netpbm-10.26.14   needs updating (port has 10.26.16)
openssl-0.9.7gneeds updating (port has 0.9.8)
p5-Compress-Zlib-1.37 needs updating (port has 1.39)
p5-Digest-1.10needs updating (port has 1.12)
p5-MIME-Tools-5.417,2 needs updating (port has 5.418,2)
p5-Scalar-List-Utils-1.14,1needs updating (port has 1.17,1)
p5-Test-Simple-0.60   needs updating (port has 0.61)
p5-Time-HiRes-1.72,1  needs updating (port has 1.74,1)
pure-ftpd-1.0.20_3needs updating (port has 1.0.20_4)
t1lib-5.0.1,1 needs updating (port has 5.1.0,1)
tiff-3.7.3needs updating (port has 3.7.4)
tightvnc-1.2.9needs updating (port has 1.2.9_1)
unzip-5.52_1  needs updating (port has 5.52_2)
xterm-204 needs updating (port has 205_1)

I've tried googling for mutt and bottom of screen, which is all I 
can think of, but no luck.


Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Bob Hall
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