Re: pop3 and socket 110

2004-01-26 Thread Robin Schoonover
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:23:34 -0800, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Trying to install a GUI MUA has me wedged ... and lost!!
 
   I've been trying to get the mozilla mail/news suite to 
   work for a long time--well, on and off!  I finally
   installed cucipop on NS1.THOUGHT.ORG and tried to start it.
 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/etc/rc.d#/usr/local/libexec/cucipop -Y
   cucipop: Can't bind socket 110


Something is probably already listening on port 110.  Check sockstat -l (if
it's FreeBSD, or check to see if something in inetd is grabbing it...).

 
   NS1 had a valid IP address; my two other systems are internal,
   private, invisible from the outside.  At any rate, after some
   pondering I altered the 'news and mail' configuration.  Voila;
   mail *is* sent out (in HTML).  But not received... (???)
   /var/mail/kline is my spool; mozilla can't see this for some
   reason.  
 

mozilla doesn't know about these sort of mailboxes.  It only knows about
imap and pop3.


   evolution refuses to build because some of the GNOME libs
   won't upgrade.  (Of my 400 ports, just 11 seem broken.)
   Can anybody recommend a GUI mail program that doesn't have
   so many dependencies?
 

portupgrade might help your GNOME libs upgrade.  Anyhow, I use
sylpheed-claws (basically the more cutting edge version of sylpheed).

   1.) Do I really need pop3? 

If you want to use mozilla.

   2.) How do I get the mozilla mail to recognize the mail in my spool
   dir?

You probably don't.

   3.) What is a decent MUA?

that's debatable.  I consider what I use to be decent :P 

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pop3 and socket 110

2003-10-26 Thread Gary Kline
Trying to install a GUI MUA has me wedged ... and lost!!

I've been trying to get the mozilla mail/news suite to 
work for a long time--well, on and off!  I finally
installed cucipop on NS1.THOUGHT.ORG and tried to start it.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/etc/rc.d#/usr/local/libexec/cucipop -Y
cucipop: Can't bind socket 110

NS1 had a valid IP address; my two other systems are internal,
private, invisible from the outside.  At any rate, after some
pondering I altered the 'news and mail' configuration.  Voila;
mail *is* sent out (in HTML).  But not received... (???)
/var/mail/kline is my spool; mozilla can't see this for some
reason.  

evolution refuses to build because some of the GNOME libs
won't upgrade.  (Of my 400 ports, just 11 seem broken.)
Can anybody recommend a GUI mail program that doesn't have
so many dependencies?

1.) Do I really need pop3?  2.) How do I get the mozilla mail
to recognize the mail in my spool dir? , and 3) What is a 
decent MUA?

thanks muchly,

gary




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Re: pop3 and socket 110

2003-10-26 Thread Gary Kline
On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 06:34:36PM -0700, Robin Schoonover wrote:
 On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:23:34 -0800, Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Trying to install a GUI MUA has me wedged ... and lost!!
  
  I've been trying to get the mozilla mail/news suite to 
  work for a long time--well, on and off!  I finally
  installed cucipop on NS1.THOUGHT.ORG and tried to start it.
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/etc/rc.d#/usr/local/libexec/cucipop -Y
  cucipop: Can't bind socket 110
 
 
 Something is probably already listening on port 110.  Check sockstat -l (if
 it's FreeBSD, or check to see if something in inetd is grabbing it...).
 

Yep, altho I'm not sure why or how:

   
   root inetd247647 tcp4   *:110 *:*

I commented out pop3 and reinitialized; then the socket was 
113.   --This is a bit over my head; 113 is given to auth.
Why is it grabbing the POP socket?

  
  NS1 had a valid IP address; my two other systems are internal,
  private, invisible from the outside.  At any rate, after some
  pondering I altered the 'news and mail' configuration.  Voila;
  mail *is* sent out (in HTML).  But not received... (???)
  /var/mail/kline is my spool; mozilla can't see this for some
  reason.  
  
 
 mozilla doesn't know about these sort of mailboxes.  It only knows about
 imap and pop3.
 

Thanks for the insight.  Well, room for improvement... .

 
  evolution refuses to build because some of the GNOME libs
  won't upgrade.  (Of my 400 ports, just 11 seem broken.)
  Can anybody recommend a GUI mail program that doesn't have
  so many dependencies?
  
 
 portupgrade might help your GNOME libs upgrade.  Anyhow, I use
 sylpheed-claws (basically the more cutting edge version of sylpheed).


I used portupgrade for all but 11 of my out-of-date ports.
It's great.  Unfortunately, it can't fix broken code and I'm
happy with ctwm ;-)


 
  1.) Do I really need pop3? 
 
 If you want to use mozilla.
 
  2.) How do I get the mozilla mail to recognize the mail in my spool
  dir?
 
 You probably don't.
 
  3.) What is a decent MUA?
 
 that's debatable.  I consider what I use to be decent :P 
 

I'll give sylpheed a look.  I really prefer discreet tools
than bundled/bloat.   Use mutt 99% of the time.  So when I
find a decent GUI client, I'm gonna rebuild mozilla sans'
the mailer.

thanks el-mucho!

gary


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