Re: which shell irc client do you like ?

2005-03-28 Thread Paul Waring
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 22:11:27 +, Chuck Robey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Just curious if you folks have tried the mozilla application, available
 only from mozilla (not firefox) called chatzilla?  I have tried nearly
 all of the other IRC clients, it's not a minimal one, but it's very very
 nice.

I've tried it, and the last time I did it crashed repeatedly and
brought firefox down with it. Plus I had to set it up on every machine
I connected from and tell it which channels to join, whereas with
irssi I can leave it running 24/7 and so never miss any messages or
have to mess about rejoining a load of different channels/networks.

Seeing as I'm typing in commands like /join and /msg anyway, I don't
see much point in an IRC client with a GUI - where's the extra
functionality?

Paul

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Re: which shell irc client do you like ?

2005-03-27 Thread Paul Waring
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 01:56:50 +0100, Gert Cuykens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i am looking for a very simple colored one, in the style of
 
 me 19:10# bla bla
 you 19:10# bla bla
 
 no menus or borders

I don't know what you mean by no menus or borders, but irssi is pretty
stripped down and can be run from the console:

http://www.irssi.org/

I run it from a screen session all the time and it works well once you
get the hang of it. I think you can make it beep when new messages
come in but because I run it on a remote server I've never bothered to
look into/activate this feature.

Paul

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Re: which shell irc client do you like ?

2005-03-27 Thread Christopher Nehren
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 I run it from a screen session all the time and it works well once you
 get the hang of it. I think you can make it beep when new messages
 come in but because I run it on a remote server I've never bothered to
 look into/activate this feature.

Surely you have screen(1) set up to show terminal beeps to you
*somehow*, right? I personally prefer having it use esdplay because I
usually have rhythmbox going, but you should be able to use a good ol'
terminal bell.

Best Regards,
Christopher Nehren
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Re: which shell irc client do you like ?

2005-03-27 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 13:45:01 +0100, Paul Waring [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 01:56:50 +0100, Gert Cuykens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  i am looking for a very simple colored one, in the style of
 
  me 19:10# bla bla
  you 19:10# bla bla
 
  no menus or borders
 
 I don't know what you mean by no menus or borders, but irssi is pretty
 stripped down and can be run from the console:
 
 http://www.irssi.org/
 
 I run it from a screen session all the time and it works well once you
 get the hang of it. I think you can make it beep when new messages
 come in but because I run it on a remote server I've never bothered to
 look into/activate this feature.

thx irssi and bitlbee is just what i needed to cover everything :)
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Re: which shell irc client do you like ?

2005-03-27 Thread Paul Waring
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 16:28:29 + (UTC), Christopher Nehren
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Surely you have screen(1) set up to show terminal beeps to you
 *somehow*, right? I personally prefer having it use esdplay because I
 usually have rhythmbox going, but you should be able to use a good ol'
 terminal bell.

No I don't, because it's not a feature that I see any need for. I'm
sure there is a way to do it but if I don't want that particular
feature I'm not going to spend time looking for how to enable it.

Paul

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Re: which shell irc client do you like ?

2005-03-27 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 16:28:29 + (UTC), Christopher Nehren
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 On 2005-03-27, Paul Waring scribbled these
 curious markings:
  I run it from a screen session all the time and it works well once you
  get the hang of it. I think you can make it beep when new messages
  come in but because I run it on a remote server I've never bothered to
  look into/activate this feature.
 
 Surely you have screen(1) set up to show terminal beeps to you
 *somehow*, right? I personally prefer having it use esdplay because I
 usually have rhythmbox going, but you should be able to use a good ol'
 terminal bell.

so how do you do the beep thingie ? Becuase i did not find it ?
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Re: which shell irc client do you like ?

2005-03-27 Thread Christopher Nehren
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On 2005-03-27, Gert Cuykens scribbled these
curious markings:
 Surely you have screen(1) set up to show terminal beeps to you
 *somehow*, right? I personally prefer having it use esdplay because I
 usually have rhythmbox going, but you should be able to use a good ol'
 terminal bell.

 so how do you do the beep thingie ? Becuase i did not find it ?

By default, screen translates terminal bells into messages which are
displayed at the bottom of the screen. The bad thing about this is that
it dismisses such messages as soon as you hit a key. What this means is
that if you're typing away at a document of some sort and someone
mentions your nick on IRC, you may not notice. Using ^A-G (default
keybindings) will make the bell audible, so that you'll be able to hear
it. Whether your terminal emulation program that you use to log into the
system translates it into something visual is another matter. If you
want to always use this setting but you don't want to have to hit ^A-G
every time you start screen, put this in a file named ~/.screenrc:

vbell off

And you'll never see that annoying visual bell ever again.

Best Regards,
Christopher Nehren
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Re: which shell irc client do you like ?

2005-03-27 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 17:41:25 + (UTC), Christopher Nehren
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 On 2005-03-27, Gert Cuykens scribbled these
 curious markings:
  Surely you have screen(1) set up to show terminal beeps to you
  *somehow*, right? I personally prefer having it use esdplay because I
  usually have rhythmbox going, but you should be able to use a good ol'
  terminal bell.
 
  so how do you do the beep thingie ? Becuase i did not find it ?
 
 By default, screen translates terminal bells into messages which are
 displayed at the bottom of the screen. The bad thing about this is that
 it dismisses such messages as soon as you hit a key. What this means is
 that if you're typing away at a document of some sort and someone
 mentions your nick on IRC, you may not notice. Using ^A-G (default
 keybindings) will make the bell audible, so that you'll be able to hear
 it. Whether your terminal emulation program that you use to log into the
 system translates it into something visual is another matter. If you
 want to always use this setting but you don't want to have to hit ^A-G
 every time you start screen, put this in a file named ~/.screenrc:
 
 vbell off
 
 And you'll never see that annoying visual bell ever again.

And how do you turn on beeps in irssi ?
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Re: which shell irc client do you like ?

2005-03-27 Thread Christopher Nehren
On 2005-03-27, Gert Cuykens scribbled these
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 And how do you turn on beeps in irssi ?

/set beep_msg_level hilight

I recommend perusing through irssi's online help. You'd be surprised at
what's available (even *I'm* surprised, and I've been using it for a
while; even tinkered with the Perl API).

Best Regards,
Christopher Nehren
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Re: which shell irc client do you like ?

2005-03-27 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 18:13:18 + (UTC), Christopher Nehren
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 2005-03-27, Gert Cuykens scribbled these
 curious markings:
  And how do you turn on beeps in irssi ?
 
 /set beep_msg_level hilight
 
 I recommend perusing through irssi's online help. You'd be surprised at
 what's available (even *I'm* surprised, and I've been using it for a
 while; even tinkered with the Perl API).

Thx ps how do you do /set | more in irc language ?
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Re: which shell irc client do you like ?

2005-03-27 Thread Christopher Nehren
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On 2005-03-27, Gert Cuykens scribbled these
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 Thx ps how do you do /set | more in irc language ?

Have you tried using the backscroll, accessible (in irssi at least) with
Page Up / Page Down?

Best Regards,
Christopher Nehren
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Re: which shell irc client do you like ?

2005-03-27 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 20:45:04 + (UTC), Christopher Nehren
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 On 2005-03-27, Gert Cuykens scribbled these
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  Thx ps how do you do /set | more in irc language ?
 
 Have you tried using the backscroll, accessible (in irssi at least) with
 Page Up / Page Down?
 

no :P
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Re: which shell irc client do you like ?

2005-03-27 Thread Chuck Robey
Christopher Nehren wrote:
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On 2005-03-27, Gert Cuykens scribbled these
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Thx ps how do you do /set | more in irc language ?

Have you tried using the backscroll, accessible (in irssi at least) with
Page Up / Page Down?
Just curious if you folks have tried the mozilla application, available 
only from mozilla (not firefox) called chatzilla?  I have tried nearly 
all of the other IRC clients, it's not a minimal one, but it's very very 
nice.

Best Regards,
Christopher Nehren
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Re: which shell irc client do you like ?

2005-03-27 Thread Christopher Nehren
On 2005-03-27, Chuck Robey scribbled these
curious markings:
 Just curious if you folks have tried the mozilla application, available 
 only from mozilla (not firefox) called chatzilla?  I have tried nearly 
 all of the other IRC clients, it's not a minimal one, but it's very very 
 nice.

I personally try to keep things as console-based as possible. screen,
irssi, elinks, mutt, slrn and vim are my best friends. I'd be in serious
trouble if ncurses broke. :)

Best Regards,
Christopher Nehren
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Re: which shell irc client do you like ?

2005-03-27 Thread Chuck Robey
Christopher Nehren wrote:
On 2005-03-27, Chuck Robey scribbled these
curious markings:
Just curious if you folks have tried the mozilla application, available 
only from mozilla (not firefox) called chatzilla?  I have tried nearly 
all of the other IRC clients, it's not a minimal one, but it's very very 
nice.

I personally try to keep things as console-based as possible. screen,
irssi, elinks, mutt, slrn and vim are my best friends. I'd be in serious
trouble if ncurses broke. :)
Can't say that I completely disagree, being that I'm a notable vim 
enthusiast, but I always say, if you're going to be honest, you need to 
at least try the one's you don't like, else you are not being honest in 
saying you don't like it.  I spent over a year learning C++, so I could 
be honest in saying I didn't like it.  If you don't give something a 
real try, then you're like the 3 year old who says I don't like it, 
what is it?

Best Regards,
Christopher Nehren

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which shell irc client do you like ?

2005-03-26 Thread Gert Cuykens
i am looking for a very simple colored one, in the style of 

me 19:10# bla bla
you 19:10# bla bla

no menus or borders
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Re: which shell irc client do you like ?

2005-03-26 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 01:56:50 +0100, Gert Cuykens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i am looking for a very simple colored one, in the style of
 
 me 19:10# bla bla
 you 19:10# bla bla
 
 no menus or borders
 

oh and some kind of warning thingie that tels you if somebody sends
something. A beep for example that you can turn on and off ?
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