Re: FreeBSD 9 recompile ports
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 8:42 PM, George Kontostanos gkontos.m...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings all and my apologies for cross posting! There seems to be a confusion regarding the ABI change in FreeBSD 9 and if this affects the usual upgrade path which includes a full port rebuild. The relevant post is here: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=28831 Frankly, I am also confused because I remember a relevant discussion a few months ago in the lists. Traditionally a major RELEASE upgrade requires a full ports rebuild, however this time there is no COMPAT_FREEBSD8 in GENERIC and most upgraded systems seem to be working fine. On the other hand this is stated in UPDATING: 20110828: Bump the shared library version numbers for libraries that do not use symbol versioning, have changed the ABI compared to stable/8 and which shared library version was not bumped. Done as part of 9.0-RELEASE cycle. Your input would be appreciated! Regards, -- George Kontostanos Aicom telecoms ltd Hmm, anyone :) ? ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9 recompile ports
On 01/13/2012 01:52, George Kontostanos wrote: On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 8:42 PM, George Kontostanos gkontos.m...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings all and my apologies for cross posting! There seems to be a confusion regarding the ABI change in FreeBSD 9 and if this affects the usual upgrade path which includes a full port rebuild. The relevant post is here: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=28831 Frankly, I am also confused because I remember a relevant discussion a few months ago in the lists. Traditionally a major RELEASE upgrade requires a full ports rebuild, however this time there is no COMPAT_FREEBSD8 in GENERIC and most upgraded systems seem to be working fine. On the other hand this is stated in UPDATING: 20110828: Bump the shared library version numbers for libraries that do not use symbol versioning, have changed the ABI compared to stable/8 and which shared library version was not bumped. Done as part of 9.0-RELEASE cycle. Your input would be appreciated! Hmm, anyone :) ? If your question is, Do I need to rebuild my ports when doing a major OS version upgrade? the answer is always Yes. The method described at the end of the portmaster man page is preferred, whether you actually use portmaster to do the upgrade or not. (I.e., good backups, delete everything, start over from scratch.) hth, Doug -- You can observe a lot just by watching. -- Yogi Berra Breadth of IT experience, and depth of knowledge in the DNS. Yours for the right price. :) http://SupersetSolutions.com/ ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9 recompile ports
George Kontostanos wrote: Greetings all and my apologies for cross posting! There seems to be a confusion regarding the ABI change in FreeBSD 9 and if this affects the usual upgrade path which includes a full port rebuild. The relevant post is here: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=28831 Frankly, I am also confused because I remember a relevant discussion a few months ago in the lists. Traditionally a major RELEASE upgrade requires a full ports rebuild, however this time there is no COMPAT_FREEBSD8 in GENERIC and most upgraded systems seem to be working fine. On the other hand this is stated in UPDATING: 20110828: Bump the shared library version numbers for libraries that do not use symbol versioning, have changed the ABI compared to stable/8 and which shared library version was not bumped. Done as part of 9.0-RELEASE cycle. Your input would be appreciated! Why can't it be that only shared libraries should be bumped, but no kernel incompatible changes were introduced? -- Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9 recompile ports
On 01/13/2012 02:06, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote: Why can't it be that only shared libraries should be bumped, but no kernel incompatible changes were introduced? Because one of the reasons we have major branches is so that we can change the various API/KPI/etc. in the newer branch. Doug -- You can observe a lot just by watching. -- Yogi Berra Breadth of IT experience, and depth of knowledge in the DNS. Yours for the right price. :) http://SupersetSolutions.com/ ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
8.2 EoL Schedule?
Currently http://www.freebsd.org/security/ states 8.2 is Estimated EoL July 31, 2012. Given 9.0 has only just been released can we assume this is just out of date and 8.2 will be supported for longer than this? Along those lines are there any more plans for additional point releases to 8 or should we look to migrate to 9? Regards Steve This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmas...@multiplay.co.uk. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Prevent starting network on usbus
Hello, Since I've updated to 9.0-RELEASE, the network rc script starts network from usbus0 to usbus7. I don't think I need them. How can I disable them ? Cheers, -- Demelier David ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9 recompile ports
on 13/01/2012 12:19 Doug Barton said the following: On 01/13/2012 02:06, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote: Why can't it be that only shared libraries should be bumped, but no kernel incompatible changes were introduced? Because one of the reasons we have major branches is so that we can change the various API/KPI/etc. in the newer branch. Are you saying that every major branch _has_ to introduce incompatibilities into a at least one system call? Otherwise, you are answering a question different from what Volodymyr asked :) -- Andriy Gapon ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9 recompile ports
on 13/01/2012 11:59 Doug Barton said the following: On 01/13/2012 01:52, George Kontostanos wrote: On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 8:42 PM, George Kontostanos gkontos.m...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings all and my apologies for cross posting! There seems to be a confusion regarding the ABI change in FreeBSD 9 and if this affects the usual upgrade path which includes a full port rebuild. The relevant post is here: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=28831 Frankly, I am also confused because I remember a relevant discussion a few months ago in the lists. Traditionally a major RELEASE upgrade requires a full ports rebuild, however this time there is no COMPAT_FREEBSD8 in GENERIC and most upgraded systems seem to be working fine. On the other hand this is stated in UPDATING: 20110828: Bump the shared library version numbers for libraries that do not use symbol versioning, have changed the ABI compared to stable/8 and which shared library version was not bumped. Done as part of 9.0-RELEASE cycle. Your input would be appreciated! Hmm, anyone :) ? If your question is, Do I need to rebuild my ports when doing a major OS version upgrade? the answer is always Yes. The method described at the end of the portmaster man page is preferred, whether you actually use portmaster to do the upgrade or not. (I.e., good backups, delete everything, start over from scratch.) I think that another part of the question was why there is no COMPAT_FREEBSD8 kernel option in 9? and I think that Volodymyr has tried to answer this part with another question. -- Andriy Gapon ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 8.2 EoL Schedule?
Hi, 8.3 is on the way IMHO, but anyway RELENG_8 will be supported until 2013 febr 24, by the current status. Regards, Andras On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 10:23:40 -, Steven Hartland wrote: Currently http://www.freebsd.org/security/ states 8.2 is Estimated EoL July 31, 2012. Given 9.0 has only just been released can we assume this is just out of date and 8.2 will be supported for longer than this? Along those lines are there any more plans for additional point releases to 8 or should we look to migrate to 9? Regards Steve This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmas...@multiplay.co.uk. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Prevent starting network on usbus
In message CAO+PfDfD0nMSshpybMzKrVSBQKFyp=c6sjmmplpit1ihw_b...@mail.gmail.com, David Demelier (demelier.da...@gmail.com) wrote: Since I've updated to 9.0-RELEASE, the network rc script starts network from usbus0 to usbus7. I don't think I need them. How can I disable them ? echo hw.usb.no_pf=1 /boot/loader.conf Cheers, Nick. -- ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9 recompile ports
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Andriy Gapon a...@freebsd.org wrote: on 13/01/2012 11:59 Doug Barton said the following: On 01/13/2012 01:52, George Kontostanos wrote: On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 8:42 PM, George Kontostanos gkontos.m...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings all and my apologies for cross posting! There seems to be a confusion regarding the ABI change in FreeBSD 9 and if this affects the usual upgrade path which includes a full port rebuild. The relevant post is here: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=28831 Frankly, I am also confused because I remember a relevant discussion a few months ago in the lists. Traditionally a major RELEASE upgrade requires a full ports rebuild, however this time there is no COMPAT_FREEBSD8 in GENERIC and most upgraded systems seem to be working fine. On the other hand this is stated in UPDATING: 20110828: Bump the shared library version numbers for libraries that do not use symbol versioning, have changed the ABI compared to stable/8 and which shared library version was not bumped. Done as part of 9.0-RELEASE cycle. Your input would be appreciated! Hmm, anyone :) ? If your question is, Do I need to rebuild my ports when doing a major OS version upgrade? the answer is always Yes. The method described at the end of the portmaster man page is preferred, whether you actually use portmaster to do the upgrade or not. (I.e., good backups, delete everything, start over from scratch.) I think that another part of the question was why there is no COMPAT_FREEBSD8 kernel option in 9? and I think that Volodymyr has tried to answer this part with another question. -- Andriy Gapon Hi guys, I am aware of the proper procedure which requires a full rebuild after a major upgrade. Doug, the question had to to with COMPAT_FREEBSD8 missing from GENERIC. It seems this and the fact that some upgrades from 8.2-STABLE worked fine without a recompile, has created the confusion. -- George Kontostanos Aicom telecoms ltd http://www.aisecure.net ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9 recompile ports
George Kontostanos schreef: On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Andriy Gapona...@freebsd.org wrote: on 13/01/2012 11:59 Doug Barton said the following: On 01/13/2012 01:52, George Kontostanos wrote: On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 8:42 PM, George Kontostanos gkontos.m...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings all and my apologies for cross posting! There seems to be a confusion regarding the ABI change in FreeBSD 9 and if this affects the usual upgrade path which includes a full port rebuild. The relevant post is here: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=28831 Frankly, I am also confused because I remember a relevant discussion a few months ago in the lists. Traditionally a major RELEASE upgrade requires a full ports rebuild, however this time there is no COMPAT_FREEBSD8 in GENERIC and most upgraded systems seem to be working fine. On the other hand this is stated in UPDATING: 20110828: Bump the shared library version numbers for libraries that do not use symbol versioning, have changed the ABI compared to stable/8 and which shared library version was not bumped. Done as part of 9.0-RELEASE cycle. Your input would be appreciated! Hmm, anyone :) ? If your question is, Do I need to rebuild my ports when doing a major OS version upgrade? the answer is always Yes. The method described at the end of the portmaster man page is preferred, whether you actually use portmaster to do the upgrade or not. (I.e., good backups, delete everything, start over from scratch.) I think that another part of the question was why there is no COMPAT_FREEBSD8 kernel option in 9? and I think that Volodymyr has tried to answer this part with another question. -- Andriy Gapon Hi guys, I am aware of the proper procedure which requires a full rebuild after a major upgrade. Doug, the question had to to with COMPAT_FREEBSD8 missing from GENERIC. It seems this and the fact that some upgrades from 8.2-STABLE worked fine without a recompile, has created the confusion. Did he do make delete-old-libs, if you leave them, then no recompile is needed, and the ports still have there old libs laying around.! If you do the make delete-old-libs command, your ports do not work anymore. regards Johan Hendriks ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9 recompile ports
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Johan Hendriks joh.hendr...@gmail.com wrote: George Kontostanos schreef: On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Andriy Gapona...@freebsd.org wrote: on 13/01/2012 11:59 Doug Barton said the following: On 01/13/2012 01:52, George Kontostanos wrote: On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 8:42 PM, George Kontostanos gkontos.m...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings all and my apologies for cross posting! There seems to be a confusion regarding the ABI change in FreeBSD 9 and if this affects the usual upgrade path which includes a full port rebuild. The relevant post is here: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=28831 Frankly, I am also confused because I remember a relevant discussion a few months ago in the lists. Traditionally a major RELEASE upgrade requires a full ports rebuild, however this time there is no COMPAT_FREEBSD8 in GENERIC and most upgraded systems seem to be working fine. On the other hand this is stated in UPDATING: 20110828: Bump the shared library version numbers for libraries that do not use symbol versioning, have changed the ABI compared to stable/8 and which shared library version was not bumped. Done as part of 9.0-RELEASE cycle. Your input would be appreciated! Hmm, anyone :) ? If your question is, Do I need to rebuild my ports when doing a major OS version upgrade? the answer is always Yes. The method described at the end of the portmaster man page is preferred, whether you actually use portmaster to do the upgrade or not. (I.e., good backups, delete everything, start over from scratch.) I think that another part of the question was why there is no COMPAT_FREEBSD8 kernel option in 9? and I think that Volodymyr has tried to answer this part with another question. -- Andriy Gapon Hi guys, I am aware of the proper procedure which requires a full rebuild after a major upgrade. Doug, the question had to to with COMPAT_FREEBSD8 missing from GENERIC. It seems this and the fact that some upgrades from 8.2-STABLE worked fine without a recompile, has created the confusion. Did he do make delete-old-libs, if you leave them, then no recompile is needed, and the ports still have there old libs laying around.! If you do the make delete-old-libs command, your ports do not work anymore. regards Johan Hendriks Very good point! Still the question remains regarding COMPAT_FREEBSD8 and how does this affects ports/misc/compat8x/ Cheers -- George Kontostanos Aicom telecoms ltd http://www.aisecure.net ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9 recompile ports
on 13/01/2012 14:57 George Kontostanos said the following: Still the question remains regarding COMPAT_FREEBSD8 and how does this affects ports/misc/compat8x/ Looks like all the previous hints have not been clear enough. There is no direct relation between COMPAT_FREEBSD8 and misc/compat8x. COMPAT_FREEBSDX options are only needed when going from release X to release X+1 there was a change to an existing system call at the kernel-userland boundary. A side note: kernel options affect only what's in the kernel, quite obviously. misc/compatXx contains versions of shared libraries from release X that are no longer present in X+1. -- Andriy Gapon ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9 recompile ports
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 04:11:22PM +0200, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 13/01/2012 14:57 George Kontostanos said the following: Still the question remains regarding COMPAT_FREEBSD8 and how does this affects ports/misc/compat8x/ Looks like all the previous hints have not been clear enough. There is no direct relation between COMPAT_FREEBSD8 and misc/compat8x. COMPAT_FREEBSDX options are only needed when going from release X to release X+1 there was a change to an existing system call at the kernel-userland boundary. A side note: kernel options affect only what's in the kernel, quite obviously. misc/compatXx contains versions of shared libraries from release X that are no longer present in X+1. Additional twist is that not every change at the kernel/usermode boundary is covered with backward-compatibility shims. Recent example is the CAM ABI change, which makes libcam.so.5 from the compat8x useless. pgpsHXivVSJKp.pgp Description: PGP signature
SVN checkout
Hi All Im just joined the list. Im not sure if this is the right place to ask svn questions. I want to checkout the freebsd code to play with it a bit. What should I do and which part of the repo should I checkout? I want the 9.0 code. Thx Julian ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FYI: 9.0-RELEASE announced...
On 01/13/2012 00:54, Ken Smith wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 JFYI for those of you who aren't subscribed to the announce@ mailing list... 9.0-RELEASE is, finally, announced. The announcement message is available here: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.0R/announce.html snip.. Do we have a chance of finding somewhere the RELNOTES.TXT, etc or do we have to build them ourself ?? Claude Buisson ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: SVN checkout
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Julian Kennedy juliank...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All Im just joined the list. Im not sure if this is the right place to ask svn questions. I want to checkout the freebsd code to play with it a bit. What should I do and which part of the repo should I checkout? I want the 9.0 code. Thx Julian For release 9.0: http://svn.freebsd.org/base/release/9.0.0 You probably actually want what would be referred to as RELENG_9 in CVS: http://svn.freebsd.org/base/stable/9 They should be checked out as /usr/src/ Cheers Tom ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: SVN checkout
You can do this using csup for example:- cp /usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile /usr/share/examples/cvsup/9.0-release-supfile Edit the following to the relavent values *default host=CHANGE_THIS.FreeBSD.org *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_9 e.g. *default host=cvs.uk.FreeBSD.org *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_9_0 and then run: csup /usr/share/examples/cvsup/9.0-release-supfile This will update your source tree in /usr/src to the 9.0 source. Regards Steve - Original Message - From: Julian Kennedy juliank...@gmail.com To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 1:53 PM Subject: SVN checkout Hi All Im just joined the list. Im not sure if this is the right place to ask svn questions. I want to checkout the freebsd code to play with it a bit. What should I do and which part of the repo should I checkout? I want the 9.0 code. Thx Julian ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmas...@multiplay.co.uk. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: GENERIC make buildkernel error / fails - posix_fadvise
On Thu, 12 Jan 2012 21:37:27 -0600, Joe Ennis j...@whiskey7.net wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2012 19:11:54 -0800
Garrett Cooper yaneg...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 5:52 PM, Doug Barton do...@freebsd.org
wrote:
chflags -R noschg /usr/obj/usr
rm -rf /usr/obj/usr
It's much faster to do:
/bin/rm -rf ${obj}/* 2 /dev/null || /bin/chflags -R 0 ${obj}/*
/bin/rm -rf ${obj}/*
Thanks of the tip! Should this be run from inside /usr/src or does it
matter?
+1. And it's faster yet when you can run parallel copies of rm on
different portions of the directory tree (e.g. xargs, find [..] -exec)
as rm is O(n).
Cheers,
-Garrett
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What I've been doing just before I do a make buildworld/buildkernel
is:
mdmfs -s2g md1 /usr/obj
on a clean /usr/obj . If I need to recompile before a boot, just umount
and recreate.
Provides a little performance boost too.
Regards,
That's a nifty little tip. I may try that next time.
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Re: FYI: 9.0-RELEASE announced...
On Fri, 2012-01-13 at 15:20 +0100, Claude Buisson wrote: On 01/13/2012 00:54, Ken Smith wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 JFYI for those of you who aren't subscribed to the announce@ mailing list... 9.0-RELEASE is, finally, announced. The announcement message is available here: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.0R/announce.html snip.. Do we have a chance of finding somewhere the RELNOTES.TXT, etc or do we have to build them ourself ?? Claude Buisson The announcement message provides this link for that: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.0R/relnotes.html There are a few other links in the announcement message that you might also want to take a look at. I didn't want to re-post the whole thing here. -- Ken Smith - From there to here, from here to | kensm...@buffalo.edu there, funny things are everywhere. | - Theodor Geisel | signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: FreeBSD 9 recompile ports
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Kostik Belousov kostik...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 04:11:22PM +0200, Andriy Gapon wrote: on 13/01/2012 14:57 George Kontostanos said the following: Still the question remains regarding COMPAT_FREEBSD8 and how does this affects ports/misc/compat8x/ Looks like all the previous hints have not been clear enough. There is no direct relation between COMPAT_FREEBSD8 and misc/compat8x. COMPAT_FREEBSDX options are only needed when going from release X to release X+1 there was a change to an existing system call at the kernel-userland boundary. A side note: kernel options affect only what's in the kernel, quite obviously. misc/compatXx contains versions of shared libraries from release X that are no longer present in X+1. Additional twist is that not every change at the kernel/usermode boundary is covered with backward-compatibility shims. Recent example is the CAM ABI change, which makes libcam.so.5 from the compat8x useless. Thanks to all for your input. It looks quite obvious to me know and I think this clears any further confusion. Best Regards, George ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FYI: 9.0-RELEASE announced...
On 01/13/2012 15:50, Ken Smith wrote:
On Fri, 2012-01-13 at 15:20 +0100, Claude Buisson wrote:
On 01/13/2012 00:54, Ken Smith wrote:
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
JFYI for those of you who aren't subscribed to the announce@ mailing
list... 9.0-RELEASE is, finally, announced. The announcement message
is available here:
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.0R/announce.html
snip..
Do we have a chance of finding somewhere the RELNOTES.TXT, etc or do we have
to build them ourself ??
Claude Buisson
The announcement message provides this link for that:
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.0R/relnotes.html
There are a few other links in the announcement message that you might
also want to take a look at. I didn't want to re-post the whole thing
here.
This is NOT an answer to my question.
To be more precise: it WAS usual to find on the ftp mirrors the documents
RELNOTES.{HTM,TXT}, for immediate consumption without having to search the web
site. Furthermore the TXT documents could be read without having to use a
browser. I did not found any of these documents on the ftp mirrors.
I also note that the document relnotes-detailed.html have the date 2012-01-12
05:51:11Z and the files on the ftp site are at best dated from Jan 06, so I
doubt they contain an uptodate version of the release documentation.
I KNOW I am an old tart, but please try to understand the question before
answering.
Claude Buisson
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Re: FYI: 9.0-RELEASE announced...
On Fri, 2012-01-13 at 16:14 +0100, Claude Buisson wrote:
On 01/13/2012 15:50, Ken Smith wrote:
On Fri, 2012-01-13 at 15:20 +0100, Claude Buisson wrote:
On 01/13/2012 00:54, Ken Smith wrote:
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
JFYI for those of you who aren't subscribed to the announce@ mailing
list... 9.0-RELEASE is, finally, announced. The announcement message
is available here:
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.0R/announce.html
snip..
Do we have a chance of finding somewhere the RELNOTES.TXT, etc or do we
have
to build them ourself ??
Claude Buisson
The announcement message provides this link for that:
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.0R/relnotes.html
There are a few other links in the announcement message that you might
also want to take a look at. I didn't want to re-post the whole thing
here.
This is NOT an answer to my question.
To be more precise: it WAS usual to find on the ftp mirrors the documents
RELNOTES.{HTM,TXT}, for immediate consumption without having to search the web
site. Furthermore the TXT documents could be read without having to use a
browser. I did not found any of these documents on the ftp mirrors.
I also note that the document relnotes-detailed.html have the date
2012-01-12
05:51:11Z and the files on the ftp site are at best dated from Jan 06, so I
doubt they contain an uptodate version of the release documentation.
I KNOW I am an old tart, but please try to understand the question before
answering.
Claude Buisson
Sorry, I hadn't intended to be offensive or passive aggressive or
whatever. To me your reference to somewhere included the possibility
of the web so you're right that I didn't understand your question but
that was why...
Looks like you need to build them yourself. Though doing that for 9.0
won't be useful I'm afraid. The release notes were not ready at the
point we started up the release builds so the online versions are the
only ones that have any useful information in them.
--
Ken Smith
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Re: FYI: 9.0-RELEASE announced...
On 01/13/2012 16:44, Ken Smith wrote: snip.. Looks like you need to build them yourself. Though doing that for 9.0 won't be useful I'm afraid. The release notes were not ready at the point we started up the release builds so the online versions are the only ones that have any useful information in them. So I will build them for the source. The last time I did it (for 8.1-RELEASE) they appeared on the mirrors a few day after.. CBu ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Prevent starting network on usbus
2012/1/13 N.J. Mann n...@njm.me.uk: In message CAO+PfDfD0nMSshpybMzKrVSBQKFyp=c6sjmmplpit1ihw_b...@mail.gmail.com, David Demelier (demelier.da...@gmail.com) wrote: Since I've updated to 9.0-RELEASE, the network rc script starts network from usbus0 to usbus7. I don't think I need them. How can I disable them ? echo hw.usb.no_pf=1 /boot/loader.conf Thanks, it works. This is the second USB tunable I know now. I know hw.usb.no_boot_wait too but I can't find any man pages that talk about them. Is it documented somewhere? Cheers, Cheers, Nick. -- -- Demelier David ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FYI: 9.0-RELEASE announced...
13.01.2012 06:54, Ken Smith пишет: If you downloaded the amd64 and/or i386 DVD images before now you might want to check the checksums with the ones posted in the release announcement. The fix to make sysinstall(8) happy about installing from the DVD images was the *only* change made to the updated images. The bad images were never available via Bittorrent so if you got the images that way you wouldn't have a bad image. I've just downloaded FreeBSD-9.0-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso using official torrent tracker linked in original announcement. I use transmission torrent client running under FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE. MD5 of the resulting image does not match: MD5 (FreeBSD-9.0-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso) = b23ef73412bd50ed62ef8613ca1a4199 I've removed the torrent and downloaded file and tried again, got the same wrong MD5. I've tried the image with VirtualBox, virtual machine starts and hangs hard at Checksum verification stage. Is it my local problem or Bittorrent's image is wrong? Eugene Grosbein ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FYI: 9.0-RELEASE announced...
14.01.2012 01:05, Eugene Grosbein пишет: 13.01.2012 06:54, Ken Smith пишет: If you downloaded the amd64 and/or i386 DVD images before now you might want to check the checksums with the ones posted in the release announcement. The fix to make sysinstall(8) happy about installing from the DVD images was the *only* change made to the updated images. The bad images were never available via Bittorrent so if you got the images that way you wouldn't have a bad image. I've just downloaded FreeBSD-9.0-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso using official torrent tracker linked in original announcement. I use transmission torrent client running under FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE. MD5 of the resulting image does not match: MD5 (FreeBSD-9.0-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso) = b23ef73412bd50ed62ef8613ca1a4199 Sorry for noise, that's right MD5. I've removed the torrent and downloaded file and tried again, got the same wrong MD5. I've tried the image with VirtualBox, virtual machine starts and hangs hard at Checksum verification stage. It seems, FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE can install as VirtualBox-4.0.10 Guest using SAS-emulated disk controller only. In IDE or SATA mode it hangs. Cc'd to Alexander Motin. Eugene Grosbein ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FYI: 9.0-RELEASE announced...
On 1/13/12 1:00 PM, Eugene Grosbein wrote: 14.01.2012 01:05, Eugene Grosbein пишет: 13.01.2012 06:54, Ken Smith пишет: If you downloaded the amd64 and/or i386 DVD images before now you might want to check the checksums with the ones posted in the release announcement. The fix to make sysinstall(8) happy about installing from the DVD images was the *only* change made to the updated images. The bad images were never available via Bittorrent so if you got the images that way you wouldn't have a bad image. I've just downloaded FreeBSD-9.0-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso using official torrent tracker linked in original announcement. I use transmission torrent client running under FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE. MD5 of the resulting image does not match: MD5 (FreeBSD-9.0-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso) = b23ef73412bd50ed62ef8613ca1a4199 Sorry for noise, that's right MD5. I've removed the torrent and downloaded file and tried again, got the same wrong MD5. I've tried the image with VirtualBox, virtual machine starts and hangs hard at Checksum verification stage. It seems, FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE can install as VirtualBox-4.0.10 Guest using SAS-emulated disk controller only. In IDE or SATA mode it hangs. Cc'd to Alexander Motin. Eugene Grosbein FWIW, 9.0-RELEASE i386 installed fine on Virtualbox 4.1.8 hosted on a MacBook Pro: Copyright (c) 1992-2012 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE #0: Tue Jan 3 07:15:25 UTC 2012 r...@obrian.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU P8700 @ 2.53GHz (2445.78-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = GenuineIntel Id = 0x1067a Family = 6 Model = 17 Stepping = 10 Features=0x783fbbfFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2 Features2=0x209SSE3,MON,SSSE3 real memory = 268369920 (255 MB) avail memory = 243384320 (232 MB) pnpbios: Bad PnP BIOS data checksum kbd1 at kbdmux0 acpi0: VBOX VBOXXSDT on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) acpi0: Sleep Button (fixed) Timecounter ACPI-fast frequency 3579545 Hz quality 900 acpi_timer0: 32-bit timer at 3.579545MHz port 0x4008-0x400b on acpi0 pcib0: ACPI Host-PCI bridge port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci_link2: BIOS IRQ 9 for 0.7.INTA does not match previous BIOS IRQ 10 pci0: ACPI PCI bus on pcib0 isab0: PCI-ISA bridge at device 1.0 on pci0 isa0: ISA bus on isab0 atapci0: Intel PIIX4 UDMA33 controller port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xd000-0xd00f at device 1.1 on pci0 ata0: ATA channel 0 on atapci0 ata1: ATA channel 1 on atapci0 vgapci0: VGA-compatible display mem 0xe000-0xe0ff irq 11 at device 2.0 on pci0 em0: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Legacy Network Connection 1.0.3 port 0xd010-0xd017 mem 0xf000-0xf001 irq 10 at device 3.0 on pci0 em0: Ethernet address: 08:00:27:48:85:1f pci0: base peripheral at device 4.0 (no driver attached) pcm0: Intel ICH (82801AA) port 0xd100-0xd1ff,0xd200-0xd23f irq 5 at device 5.0 on pci0 pcm0: SigmaTel STAC9700/83/84 AC97 Codec ohci0: OHCI (generic) USB controller mem 0xf0804000-0xf0804fff irq 11 at device 6.0 on pci0 usbus0: OHCI (generic) USB controller on ohci0 pci0: bridge at device 7.0 (no driver attached) ehci0: Intel 82801FB (ICH6) USB 2.0 controller mem 0xf0805000-0xf0805fff irq 10 at device 11.0 on pci0 usbus1: EHCI version 1.0 usbus1: Intel 82801FB (ICH6) USB 2.0 controller on ehci0 battery0: ACPI Control Method Battery on acpi0 acpi_acad0: AC Adapter on acpi0 atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: AT Keyboard irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: PS/2 Mouse irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: model IntelliMouse Explorer, device ID 4 attimer0: AT timer port 0x40-0x43,0x50-0x53 on acpi0 Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 Event timer i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 100 pmtimer0 on isa0 sc0: System console at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA 16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300 vga0: Generic ISA VGA at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa-0xb on isa0 atrtc0: AT realtime clock at port 0x70 irq 8 on isa0 Event timer RTC frequency 32768 Hz quality 0 ppc0: parallel port not found. Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec pcm0: measured ac97 link rate at 2807 Hz usbus0: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus1: 480Mbps High Speed USB v2.0 ugen0.1: Apple at usbus0 uhub0: Apple OHCI root HUB, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 on usbus0 ugen1.1: Intel at usbus1 uhub1: Intel EHCI root HUB, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 on usbus1 ada0 at ata0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0 ada0: VBOX HARDDISK 1.0 ATA-6 device ada0: 33.300MB/s transfers (UDMA2, PIO 65536bytes) ada0: 32768MB (67108864 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) ada0: Previously was known as ad0 cd0 at ata0 bus 0 scbus0 target 1 lun 0 cd0: VBOX CD-ROM 1.0 Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device cd0:
bsdinstall and swap partition
Hi! Is it possible to create swap partition at the beginning of disk while installing 9.0-RELEASE? For MBR partitioning, it should occupy first partition of FreeBSD slice. sysinstall used to ask a type of created partition and for swap it choosed 'b' partition automatically but bsdinstall uses 'a' partition for first one despite of its type. Eugene Grosbein ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FYI: 9.0-RELEASE announced...
It seems, FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE can install as VirtualBox-4.0.10 Guest using SAS-emulated disk controller only. In IDE or SATA mode it hangs. FWIW, 9.0-RELEASE i386 installed fine on Virtualbox 4.1.8 hosted on a MacBook Pro: FreeBSD Ports collection has 4.0.14 only. Eugene Grosbein ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: SVN checkout
on 13/01/2012 16:48 Steven Hartland said the following: You can do this using csup for example:- cp /usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile /usr/share/examples/cvsup/9.0-release-supfile Edit the following to the relavent values *default host=CHANGE_THIS.FreeBSD.org *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_9 e.g. *default host=cvs.uk.FreeBSD.org *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_9_0 and then run: csup /usr/share/examples/cvsup/9.0-release-supfile This will update your source tree in /usr/src to the 9.0 source. This won't be an SVN checkout though - just being pedantic about the subject line. - Original Message - From: Julian Kennedy juliank...@gmail.com To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 1:53 PM Subject: SVN checkout Hi All Im just joined the list. Im not sure if this is the right place to ask svn questions. I want to checkout the freebsd code to play with it a bit. What should I do and which part of the repo should I checkout? I want the 9.0 code. Thx Julian ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmas...@multiplay.co.uk. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Andriy Gapon ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: SVN checkout
On Jan 13, 2012, at 5:53 AM, Julian Kennedy wrote: Hi All Im just joined the list. Im not sure if this is the right place to ask svn questions. I want to checkout the freebsd code to play with it a bit. What should I do and which part of the repo should I checkout? I want the 9.0 code. $ cd /usr/src $ svn co http://svn.freebsd.org/base/release/9.0.0 . Cheers, -Garrett ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: SVN checkout
On 01/13/2012 09:51 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote: On Jan 13, 2012, at 5:53 AM, Julian Kennedy wrote: Hi All Im just joined the list. Im not sure if this is the right place to ask svn questions. I want to checkout the freebsd code to play with it a bit. What should I do and which part of the repo should I checkout? I want the 9.0 code. $ cd /usr/src $ svn co http://svn.freebsd.org/base/release/9.0.0 . Can I just ask a for a clarification then: would .../release/8.2.5 get me what after buildworld+buildkernel results in 8.2-RELEASE-p5? I ask because I have some interest in having a tree from which i easily can check out a given patch-version. Cheers, -Garrett ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Regards Andreas Nilsson ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: SVN checkout
On Friday, January 13, 2012 4:40:08 pm Andreas Nilsson wrote: On 01/13/2012 09:51 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote: On Jan 13, 2012, at 5:53 AM, Julian Kennedy wrote: Hi All Im just joined the list. Im not sure if this is the right place to ask svn questions. I want to checkout the freebsd code to play with it a bit. What should I do and which part of the repo should I checkout? I want the 9.0 code. $ cd /usr/src $ svn co http://svn.freebsd.org/base/release/9.0.0 . Can I just ask a for a clarification then: would .../release/8.2.5 get me what after buildworld+buildkernel results in 8.2-RELEASE-p5? I ask because I have some interest in having a tree from which i easily can check out a given patch-version. I don't think we tag the patches, I think they are just committed to releng/8.2 directly. However, you could look at the logs for a given branch (e.g. svn log --stop-on-copy releng/8.2) and figure out the svn revision that would correspond to 8.2-p5. -- John Baldwin ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: SVN checkout
On Jan 13, 2012, at 1:55 PM, John Baldwin wrote: On Friday, January 13, 2012 4:40:08 pm Andreas Nilsson wrote: On 01/13/2012 09:51 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote: On Jan 13, 2012, at 5:53 AM, Julian Kennedy wrote: Hi All Im just joined the list. Im not sure if this is the right place to ask svn questions. I want to checkout the freebsd code to play with it a bit. What should I do and which part of the repo should I checkout? I want the 9.0 code. $ cd /usr/src $ svn co http://svn.freebsd.org/base/release/9.0.0 . Can I just ask a for a clarification then: would .../release/8.2.5 get me what after buildworld+buildkernel results in 8.2-RELEASE-p5? I ask because I have some interest in having a tree from which i easily can check out a given patch-version. I don't think we tag the patches, I think they are just committed to releng/8.2 directly. However, you could look at the logs for a given branch (e.g. svn log --stop-on-copy releng/8.2) and figure out the svn revision that would correspond to 8.2-p5. That would be my recommendation too. Things aren't always consistent between CVS and SVN because they're two separate systems, but it should be more consistent with 9.0.0+ (or at least it appeared to have been that way because now releng is using SVN primarily for release from what I saw and not CVS, which was the way things were in the past). Thanks, -Garrett___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: SVN checkout
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 11:00 PM, Garrett Cooper yaneg...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 13, 2012, at 1:55 PM, John Baldwin wrote: On Friday, January 13, 2012 4:40:08 pm Andreas Nilsson wrote: On 01/13/2012 09:51 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote: On Jan 13, 2012, at 5:53 AM, Julian Kennedy wrote: Hi All Im just joined the list. Im not sure if this is the right place to ask svn questions. I want to checkout the freebsd code to play with it a bit. What should I do and which part of the repo should I checkout? I want the 9.0 code. $ cd /usr/src $ svn co http://svn.freebsd.org/base/release/9.0.0 . Can I just ask a for a clarification then: would .../release/8.2.5 get me what after buildworld+buildkernel results in 8.2-RELEASE-p5? I ask because I have some interest in having a tree from which i easily can check out a given patch-version. I don't think we tag the patches, I think they are just committed to releng/8.2 directly. However, you could look at the logs for a given branch (e.g. svn log --stop-on-copy releng/8.2) and figure out the svn revision that would correspond to 8.2-p5. Thanks. That would be my recommendation too. Things aren't always consistent between CVS and SVN because they're two separate systems, but it should be more consistent with 9.0.0+ (or at least it appeared to have been that way because now releng is using SVN primarily for release from what I saw and not CVS, which was the way things were in the past). Thanks, -Garrett Thanks. I had some inkling of this :) Shame on my for not keeping checkouts in a more consistent way. /Andreas ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9 recompile ports
On 01/13/2012 03:56, George Kontostanos wrote: On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Andriy Gapon a...@freebsd.org wrote: on 13/01/2012 11:59 Doug Barton said the following: On 01/13/2012 01:52, George Kontostanos wrote: On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 8:42 PM, George Kontostanos gkontos.m...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings all and my apologies for cross posting! There seems to be a confusion regarding the ABI change in FreeBSD 9 and if this affects the usual upgrade path which includes a full port rebuild. The relevant post is here: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=28831 Frankly, I am also confused because I remember a relevant discussion a few months ago in the lists. Traditionally a major RELEASE upgrade requires a full ports rebuild, however this time there is no COMPAT_FREEBSD8 in GENERIC and most upgraded systems seem to be working fine. On the other hand this is stated in UPDATING: 20110828: Bump the shared library version numbers for libraries that do not use symbol versioning, have changed the ABI compared to stable/8 and which shared library version was not bumped. Done as part of 9.0-RELEASE cycle. Your input would be appreciated! Hmm, anyone :) ? If your question is, Do I need to rebuild my ports when doing a major OS version upgrade? the answer is always Yes. The method described at the end of the portmaster man page is preferred, whether you actually use portmaster to do the upgrade or not. (I.e., good backups, delete everything, start over from scratch.) I think that another part of the question was why there is no COMPAT_FREEBSD8 kernel option in 9? and I think that Volodymyr has tried to answer this part with another question. -- Andriy Gapon Hi guys, I am aware of the proper procedure which requires a full rebuild after a major upgrade. Doug, the question had to to with COMPAT_FREEBSD8 missing from GENERIC. It seems this and the fact that some upgrades from 8.2-STABLE worked fine without a recompile, has created the confusion. Well clearly there is something about this that I don't understand. :) If you have a sufficiently small number of ports, sure it's possible that you *might* not have to recompile. However if you're talking about a desktop system with X I guarantee you that if you clean out all the old stuff in the base after doing a major version upgrade then there are things in /usr/local/ that are linked against libs that no longer exist. How much that affects you is a YMMV of course. Meanwhile my larger point was that it doesn't matter whether COMPAT_FREEBSD8 exists or not, whether some upgrades appear to work or not, etc. When you do a major version upgrade your safest bet is wipe out your old stuff and start over from scratch. You'll waste more time trying to find ways around doing that than you would spend just doing it. :) Doug -- You can observe a lot just by watching. -- Yogi Berra Breadth of IT experience, and depth of knowledge in the DNS. Yours for the right price. :) http://SupersetSolutions.com/ ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9 recompile ports
Just for the sake of this conversation... on 14/01/2012 00:35 Doug Barton said the following: If you have a sufficiently small number of ports, sure it's possible that you *might* not have to recompile. However if you're talking about a desktop system with X I guarantee you that if you clean out all the old stuff in the base after doing a major version upgrade then there are things in /usr/local/ that are linked against libs that no longer exist. How much that affects you is a YMMV of course. But if the appropriate misc/compatX port is installed, then those libraries do actually exist and the system should be fully usable... Modulo the compat libraries not working with the new kernel as Kostik has pointed out. Meanwhile my larger point was that it doesn't matter whether COMPAT_FREEBSD8 exists or not, whether some upgrades appear to work or not, etc. When you do a major version upgrade your safest bet is wipe out your old stuff and start over from scratch. You'll waste more time trying to find ways around doing that than you would spend just doing it. :) Despite what I said above I still (mostly) agree with this suggestion. As soon as a user starts updating his ports one at a time it is very easy to run into a version of a dll hell where a binary from port A is linked to a newer version of some system library, say, libfoo.so.5 and is also linked to a library from port B, say, libbar.so, which in its turn was originally linked with the older version of the system library, say, libfoo.so.4. This could lead to some severe and hard to debug problem. Such a situation can be possible if port A is updated after the system upgrade, but port B is not. So reinstalling all ports/packages after the system upgrade is the most straightforward solution. But the overall situation is not as dramatic as you've originally described and a more gradual approach to updating the ports is possible with enough care. But this is only for the expert users to attempt :-) -- Andriy Gapon ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Upgrade to 9.0 and Fan kick to high speed
I just upgraded from RC3 to release and now my pc fans are doing an high to low every two seconds. Ideas on why?? Thanks Ben Adams ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FYI: 9.0-RELEASE announced...
Ken Smith kensm...@buffalo.edu wrote: The release notes were not ready at the point we started up the release builds so the online versions are the only ones that have any useful information in them. Perhaps the final version could be made MFCd to the errata/security branch, and/or added to the FTP sites alongside the ISOs. In the future, might it be useful to delay the release until the release notes are available? I would _guess_ that doing a partial build, of only the release notes, would not take all that long. ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Upgrade to 9.0 and Fan kick to high speed
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 07:44:17PM -0500, benjamin adams wrote: I just upgraded from RC3 to release and now my pc fans are doing an high to low every two seconds. Ideas on why?? Lots of ideas on why, but whether or not any of them are applicable is a separate topic. :-) For starters: sysctl -a | grep freq sysctl -a | grep acpi And are you using powerd(8) at all? -- | Jeremy Chadwickjdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, US | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP 4BD6C0CB | ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Fix for clang build ImageMagick and GraphicsImagci
Hi, Mark 在 2011年12月21日 上午1:06，Mark Linimon lini...@lonesome.com 写道： I have recently been able to get the new build cluster on pointyhat-west set up to run full builds of ports with clang on amd64-9. I have documented the latest results on the wiki: http://wiki.freebsd.org/PortsAndClang If you are interested in working on ports being built via clang, this is your place to start. Please also note that now that we have up-to-date builds going, it is not as useful to us to report individual clang build failures. Patches to fix problems are, of course, highly welcome. mcl ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-stable-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
