RE: Upgrading from 6.4 to 7.2

2009-07-31 Thread Helge.Oldach
Willem,

Willem Jan Withagen wrote on Friday, July 31, 2009 2:07 PM:
> Willem Jan Withagen wrote:
>> Andrey V. Elsukov wrote:
>>> Willem Jan Withagen wrote:
 With a 6.4 of last night
 
 So I guess 6.4 -> 7.2 needs to go via 7.0 ??
>>> 
>>> It is already fixed.
>>> http://svn.freebsd.org/changeset/base/195987
>>> 
>> 
>> cvsupped last night at 1:00 +1
>> So the apha-particle strikes again. ;)
>> 
>> I'll update, and rerun.
> 
> We'll I got 1 step further.
> 
> Kernel is build, but refuses to install,



> ===> accf_http (install)
> install -o root -g wheel -m 555   accf_http.ko /boot/kernel
> install -o root -g wheel -m 555   accf_http.ko.symbols /boot/kernel
> kldxref /boot/kernel
> kldxref: file isn't dynamically-linked
> kldxref: file isn't dynamically-linked
> kldxref: file isn't dynamically-linked

Are you sure the kernel does not install? I have recently source-upgraded a 
bunch of systems straight from 6-STABLE to 7-STABLE, constantly observed this 
error, but kernel and modules did install properly, and the machines booted up 
as smoothly as expected. Most of them with gmirror, BTW.

Helge

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RE: rrdtool performance tuning (fwd)

2007-10-31 Thread Helge.Oldach
Dmitry Morozovsky wrote on Monday, October 29, 2007 9:13 AM:
> any hints to tune rrdtool with ~30k rrd files (approx 2k target
> devices)? 
> 
> machine is mostly IO-bound, showing 100% disk load with 8 or
> sometimes even 3 mB/s, 300-400 tps (it's 2 SATA300 disks in gmirror)

This is how rrdtool behaves. The best you can do is avoid paging of the "hot"
blocks of the RRD files out of buffer cache by supplying sufficient RAM.
Other options such as noatime etc. merely have minor effects.

Personally, I run a 70k+ RRD file box by queueing the requests first and
writing them to the database files in bulk, at the expense of an artificial
delay of a couple of minutes. Disk space is some 6 GB so using a RAM disk
might be an option, at the risk of losing data...

Probably about 100k RRDs is what you can get out of current hardware. Note
specifically that SMP has no effect.

Helge

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RE: FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE and Flash 7 patch

2007-01-26 Thread Helge.Oldach
Kai Lockwood <> wrote on Friday, January 26, 2007 5:10 AM:
> Oliver Fromme wrote:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>  > Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:
>>  > > BTW, what is the reason this "hack" isn't included in the base kernel  
>> > > / code?
>>  >
>>  > Because it is probably unnecessary? I run a recent 6-STABLE and use
>>  > the flash7 plugin *without* this patch. I am using Opera, though, not  > 
>> Firefox...
>> 
>> Same here.  I use Opera with the Flash plugin on 6-STABLE
>> without any problems.  I haven't applied a patch to rtld.
>> 
> This is a Firefox specific patch which requires the rtld be patched.
> Many thanks to those who have provided patch updates because I was at
> a lost without them.
> 

Ummm... In that case the application should be fixed rather than patching the 
operating system. Which finally explains why this patch should definitely not 
be included in the base.

Helge
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RE: FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE and Flash 7 patch

2007-01-25 Thread Helge.Oldach
Torfinn Ingolfsen <> wrote on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 10:51 PM:
> On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:11:16 -0600
> ejc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> rtld.c has changed a bit over time so here's a patch against the new
>> file.
> 
> BTW, what is the reason this "hack" isn't included in the base kernel
> / code?

Because it is probably unnecessary? I run a recent 6-STABLE and use the flash7 
plugin *without* this patch. I am using Opera, though, not Firefox...

Helge
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RE: Possibility for FreeBSD 4.11 Extended Support

2006-12-22 Thread Helge.Oldach
Pete French <> wrote on Friday, December 22, 2006 2:44 PM:
>> Because everybody knows that odd numbered releases aren't stable.
> 
> I've been 20 years in electronics & comouting and thats the first
> time I have ever heard anyone say that! Steer clear of '.0' releases
> is well known, but suspecting something just because of the odd or
> evenness of it's numbering scheme seems like pure superstition.

The odd/even rule is just over-generalization, derived from the Linux kernel 
numbering scheme.

Personally, I've been upgrading lots of servers from 4-STABLE to 5-STABLE to 
6-STABLE without trouble. Yes, it is some amount of work (particularly if you 
want UFS2 benefits and thus have to newfs all filesystemes), but it is 
absolutely doable and certainly not a killer job.

Of course upgrading hundreds, even thousands of remote servers is a different 
task. But then you want professional support anyway...

Frankly, I can't follow the argument that 6.x is "unstable". After all, it's 
named 6-STABLE for a reason. I'd say from experience that the reason is 
perfectly valid. Actually I have two older servers that got "just stuck" every 
few weeks with 4-STABLE and 5-STABLE and called for a hard reboot -- these two 
have been rock solid ever since they were upgraded to 6-STABLE.

Greets,
Helge
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RE: gnokii on FreeBSD 6.0 and Dell PE 2850

2006-03-24 Thread Helge.Oldach
 
> Mar 22 08:41:38 nefarian kernel: sio0: 2 more silo overflows (total
16)

This is often related to interrupt contention. Probably your new machine
shares
the IRQ of /dev/cuad0 with other devices. If another device hangs on the
IRQ for
too long, the cuad0 silo will overflow and you are losing characters,
which
probably cause the gnokii conversation with the phone to fail. Try
tweaking your 
BIOS so that cuad0 doesn't share interrupts.

I've seen other suggestions, such as fiddling with HZ and modifying
sio.c but
this one is probably the simplest.

HTH
Helge
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RE: opinion on which software RAID to use

2006-03-02 Thread Helge.Oldach
Vivek, 

Frankly, for smaller, desktop-sized boxen I prefer atacontrol. Once set up at 
installation time, it just works. I even managed to hotswap drives on certain 
ATA controllers, provided that the drives are on different channels.

On the server end, I still prefer SCSI-based hardware RAID.

YMMV.

Helge

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Subject: opinion on which software RAID to use

I have a stack of new boxes here with two SATA drives on which I plan  
to do software RAID.  The box actually has a hardware RAID but it is  
somehow disabled since I didn't pay extra for it... I can access the  
BIOS and set up the RAID volume but it fails at boot.  So they are  
configured as individual disks.  The boxes are Dell PowerEdge 1425SC.

Anyhow, I see at least three ways to set up a mirror of these drives  
and/or partitions:

  gvinum
  gmirror
  atacontrol

Any opinions on which has both qualities: easy to configure/manage  
(ie, recover after failure) and performance?  The handbook RAID page  
doesn't even mention gmirror.  The atacontrol seems very simple to  
use, at least.

Let me know what you think.  Thanks!

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