Re: nVidia driver update today: renders X11 unusable

2008-09-06 Thread Andrew Reilly
On Tue, Sep 02, 2008 at 02:28:20PM +, O. Hartmann wrote:
> How can I selectively 'downgrade' a port?

I've never had the nv driver be able to happily (or at all,
really) drive my LCD screen, so I've been using the VESA driver.
Works pretty OK.  So it's not accelerated, but chips and busses
are fast these days, and the nv driver isn't doing 3D accel
anyway.

I saw the nv driver update come up, and was going to give it
another go, but maybe I'll wait for a bit...

FWIW my system is an Athlon X2 box with NVIDIA motherboard
chipset and a cheapo 6600LE graphics card.

Anyway, my point is that you should be able to use the VESA
driver as a fall-back until the nv driver starts to work
(again?)

Cheers,

Andrew
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Re: nVidia driver update today: renders X11 unusable

2008-09-04 Thread O. Hartmann

Christoph Moench-Tegeder wrote:

## O. Hartmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

My box at home has an older NV6800GT and I do not have this special 
issue, but instead I do have another well known issue of box-freezing. 
This also happens with 'nv'.


Whoa. Guess I'm lucky, as my nvidia chis is working, albeit quite
slowly. My radeonhd-based card at home is way faster, but exhibits
the same black-image-issue with firefox.

Regards,
Christoph



The situation is harsh. More than 5 boxes running all the same card type 
and FreeBSD are simply unusuable since this upgrade and I'm typing blind 
due to black bars covering typed in sentences. This is in most clients 
which do font rendering, I guess, but I really don't know. That is 
clearly a mess and I do not understand why this sh..-driver has gone 
into ports while the issues with some chips are well known :-(

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Re: nVidia driver update today: renders X11 unusable

2008-09-03 Thread Christoph Moench-Tegeder
## O. Hartmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> My box at home has an older NV6800GT and I do not have this special 
> issue, but instead I do have another well known issue of box-freezing. 
> This also happens with 'nv'.

Whoa. Guess I'm lucky, as my nvidia chis is working, albeit quite
slowly. My radeonhd-based card at home is way faster, but exhibits
the same black-image-issue with firefox.

Regards,
Christoph

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Re: nVidia driver update today: renders X11 unusable

2008-09-03 Thread O. Hartmann

Christoph Moench-Tegeder wrote:

## O. Hartmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):


Seems you've got an issue between X and firefox3; at least there's
a note in the firefox3 release notes which desribes similar effects:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=411831
Oh, but by the way, it's not an nvidia/nv issue; I've got the exactly
same issues with radeonhd... Luckily, I do not depend that much on
web browsers, let alone firefox3.
The issue of X with firefox is well known and be aured I'm aware of 
that. This issue I complained about is with nearly every client I use 
under X - and that includes Firefox. This 'issue' renders a bunch of 
FreeBSD boxes around here unusable, only those with non-G80 derived 
graphics boards seem to be not infected by the problem, but every box 
with FreeBSD (mostly 7.0/7.1).


Ah, that explains why I'm having only the usual firefox issue,
obviously my laptop's "Quadro NVS 140M" is not a G80-derived
chip (nautilus, gimp, gnumeric do wirk fine without black bars).
The first mails read as if all nvidia boards were affected.

Regards,
Christoph



My box at home has an older NV6800GT and I do not have this special 
issue, but instead I do have another well known issue of box-freezing. 
This also happens with 'nv'. Since FreeBSD 7.0 this freezing occurs more 
frequent than in FBSD 6, but in the meanwhile thenv-driver changed 
several times. It is a horror :-(


Regards,
Oliver
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Re: nVidia driver update today: renders X11 unusable

2008-09-02 Thread Christoph Moench-Tegeder
## O. Hartmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> > Seems you've got an issue between X and firefox3; at least there's
> > a note in the firefox3 release notes which desribes similar effects:
> > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=411831
> > Oh, but by the way, it's not an nvidia/nv issue; I've got the exactly
> > same issues with radeonhd... Luckily, I do not depend that much on
> > web browsers, let alone firefox3.
> The issue of X with firefox is well known and be aured I'm aware of 
> that. This issue I complained about is with nearly every client I use 
> under X - and that includes Firefox. This 'issue' renders a bunch of 
> FreeBSD boxes around here unusable, only those with non-G80 derived 
> graphics boards seem to be not infected by the problem, but every box 
> with FreeBSD (mostly 7.0/7.1).

Ah, that explains why I'm having only the usual firefox issue,
obviously my laptop's "Quadro NVS 140M" is not a G80-derived
chip (nautilus, gimp, gnumeric do wirk fine without black bars).
The first mails read as if all nvidia boards were affected.

Regards,
Christoph

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Re: nVidia driver update today: renders X11 unusable

2008-09-02 Thread O. Hartmann

Christoph Moench-Tegeder wrote:

## Volodymyr Kostyrko ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

Just upgraded my ports and installed the new xf86-video-nv driver. Well, 
loggin out works now without crashing the Xorg server, but most fonts 
now show up as balck bars - unreadable and ugly :-(
Same for me, just some transparent pictures render transparency as 
black, good example is reader.google.com. This also isn't new to me, 
some pictures was shown like this in previous driver versions. I was 
just a bit unsure who was bad at it.


Seems you've got an issue between X and firefox3; at least there's
a note in the firefox3 release notes which desribes similar effects:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=411831
Oh, but by the way, it's not an nvidia/nv issue; I've got the exactly
same issues with radeonhd... Luckily, I do not depend that much on
web browsers, let alone firefox3.

Regards,
Christoph

The issue of X with firefox is well known and be aured I'm aware of 
that. This issue I complained about is with nearly every client I use 
under X - and that includes Firefox. This 'issue' renders a bunch of 
FreeBSD boxes around here unusable, only those with non-G80 derived 
graphics boards seem to be not infected by the problem, but every box 
with FreeBSD (mostly 7.0/7.1). By the way, the Linux boxes, especially 
the Gentoo-boxes, with also the open source nv-driver DO NOT SHOW this 
problem.

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Re: nVidia driver update today: renders X11 unusable

2008-09-02 Thread Christoph Moench-Tegeder
## Volodymyr Kostyrko ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> > Just upgraded my ports and installed the new xf86-video-nv driver. Well, 
> > loggin out works now without crashing the Xorg server, but most fonts 
> > now show up as balck bars - unreadable and ugly :-(
> Same for me, just some transparent pictures render transparency as 
> black, good example is reader.google.com. This also isn't new to me, 
> some pictures was shown like this in previous driver versions. I was 
> just a bit unsure who was bad at it.

Seems you've got an issue between X and firefox3; at least there's
a note in the firefox3 release notes which desribes similar effects:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=411831
Oh, but by the way, it's not an nvidia/nv issue; I've got the exactly
same issues with radeonhd... Luckily, I do not depend that much on
web browsers, let alone firefox3.

Regards,
Christoph

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Re: nVidia driver update today: renders X11 unusable

2008-09-02 Thread Ronald Klop
On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 16:28:20 +0200, O. Hartmann  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Andriy Gapon wrote:

Question to those having this problem - what kind of nVidia hardware do
you have?
Is that something that is based on G80 GPU or later (GeForce 8XXX or  
later)?

I see that there is already version 2.1.12 of nv driver (in xorg
repository) that is supposed to fix CPUToScreenColorExpandFill function
for G80 cards.



Well,
the problems I have are related to a nv8600GTS based board, this is, as  
far as I know, a G8X-based graphics board. Nearly 3 months ago some  
weird behaviour started to be static on the same hardware, Xorg wasn't  
capable of resetting the terminal is was bound to and presented me funny  
blinking block graphics on the screen. The Xorg server could oly be  
revived remotelly by killing the Xorg or within a running session by  
killing the Xorg for logging off. This problem has gone with today's  
update, but now my box (nv8600GTS) and the one of a collegue is rendered  
unusable.
My private box runs with a nv6800GT board and there Xorg freezes now  
very often and renders the box unusable, too.


I'm very unpleased about the situation, because it is impossible to do  
reasonable work.


How can I selectively 'downgrade' a port?


Mmmm...

# whereis portdowngrade
portdowngrade: /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portdowngrade

Cheers,

Ronald.
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Re: nVidia driver update today: renders X11 unusable

2008-09-02 Thread O. Hartmann

Andriy Gapon wrote:

Question to those having this problem - what kind of nVidia hardware do
you have?
Is that something that is based on G80 GPU or later (GeForce 8XXX or later)?
I see that there is already version 2.1.12 of nv driver (in xorg
repository) that is supposed to fix CPUToScreenColorExpandFill function
for G80 cards.



Well,
the problems I have are related to a nv8600GTS based board, this is, as 
far as I know, a G8X-based graphics board. Nearly 3 months ago some 
weird behaviour started to be static on the same hardware, Xorg wasn't 
capable of resetting the terminal is was bound to and presented me funny 
blinking block graphics on the screen. The Xorg server could oly be 
revived remotelly by killing the Xorg or within a running session by 
killing the Xorg for logging off. This problem has gone with today's 
update, but now my box (nv8600GTS) and the one of a collegue is rendered 
unusable.
My private box runs with a nv6800GT board and there Xorg freezes now 
very often and renders the box unusable, too.


I'm very unpleased about the situation, because it is impossible to do 
reasonable work.


How can I selectively 'downgrade' a port?

Regards,
Oliver

P.S. Sorry about some weird formatting, I'm typing blind, I see 'censor 
black bars' all over my screen, even in Thunderbird, Firefox ...).

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Re: nVidia driver update today: renders X11 unusable

2008-09-02 Thread Andriy Gapon

Question to those having this problem - what kind of nVidia hardware do
you have?
Is that something that is based on G80 GPU or later (GeForce 8XXX or later)?
I see that there is already version 2.1.12 of nv driver (in xorg
repository) that is supposed to fix CPUToScreenColorExpandFill function
for G80 cards.


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Re: nVidia driver update today: renders X11 unusable

2008-09-02 Thread O. Hartmann

Florian Smeets wrote:

O. Hartmann wrote:

Just upgraded my ports and installed the new xf86-video-nv driver. Well,
loggin out works now without crashing the Xorg server, but most fonts
now show up as balck bars - unreadable and ugly :-(


flz@ has committed an updated version (2.4.2) an hour ago. You could try 
if that fixes your problems.


Cheers,
Florian


I guess we are already talking about this aupdate because I updated 
approx. 1 hour ago when the probems took place.


Regards,
Oliver
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Re: nVidia driver update today: renders X11 unusable

2008-09-02 Thread Volodymyr Kostyrko

O. Hartmann wrote:

Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote:

O. Hartmann wrote:
Just upgraded my ports and installed the new xf86-video-nv driver. 
Well, loggin out works now without crashing the Xorg server, but most 
fonts now show up as balck bars - unreadable and ugly :-(


Same for me, just some transparent pictures render transparency as 
black, good example is reader.google.com. This also isn't new to me, 
some pictures was shown like this in previous driver versions. I was 
just a bit unsure who was bad at it.




Well, everything with a transparency, as you stated above, seems to be 
broken, reading Email is a horror, most web sites are rendered broken in 
Firefox 3. Luckily, within xterm everthing is ok.


I recompiled xorg and my windowmanager, no effect. Even xdm shows up 
with black bars were normally 'LOGIN:' and 'PASSWORD:' shows up ...


Is there a solution? The situation is serious ...


1. portdowngrade
2. Kick upstream, the problem isn't that new, it's just getting sharper.
3. Quick look through Xephyr at KDE4 gives me no quirks in displaying 
images. It maybe gtk2-only thingy, or it maybe Xephyr already fixes it 
somehow... dunno...


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Re: nVidia driver update today: renders X11 unusable

2008-09-02 Thread Florian Smeets

Florian Smeets wrote:

O. Hartmann wrote:

Just upgraded my ports and installed the new xf86-video-nv driver. Well,
loggin out works now without crashing the Xorg server, but most fonts
now show up as balck bars - unreadable and ugly :-(


flz@ has committed an updated version (2.4.2) an hour ago. You could try
if that fixes your problems.



Gah. Never mind. It was the xf86-video-intel driver which was updated. I 
think i need a pair of glasses :-(


Sorry,
Florian
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Re: nVidia driver update today: renders X11 unusable

2008-09-02 Thread Florian Smeets

O. Hartmann wrote:

Just upgraded my ports and installed the new xf86-video-nv driver. Well,
loggin out works now without crashing the Xorg server, but most fonts
now show up as balck bars - unreadable and ugly :-(


flz@ has committed an updated version (2.4.2) an hour ago. You could try 
if that fixes your problems.


Cheers,
Florian
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Re: nVidia driver update today: renders X11 unusable

2008-09-02 Thread Ben C. O. Grimm

O. Hartmann wrote:

Well, everything with a transparency, as you stated above, seems to be 
broken, reading Email is a horror, most web sites are rendered broken in 
Firefox 3. Luckily, within xterm everthing is ok.
I recompiled xorg and my windowmanager, no effect. Even xdm shows up 
with black bars were normally 'LOGIN:' and 'PASSWORD:' shows up ...

Is there a solution? The situation is serious ...


Back out of the upgrade, back to the previous version? The current 
_binary_ package is still the old version, so you could try to 
force-install that one (e.g. by using "portupgrade -fPP 
xf86-video-nv-2.1.11") until the port gets fixed, I guess. Haven't tried 
this (haven't upgraded yet), but it should revert your upgrade and get 
you up and running for now (but ymmv).

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Re: nVidia driver update today: renders X11 unusable

2008-09-02 Thread O. Hartmann

Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote:

O. Hartmann wrote:
Just upgraded my ports and installed the new xf86-video-nv driver. 
Well, loggin out works now without crashing the Xorg server, but most 
fonts now show up as balck bars - unreadable and ugly :-(


Same for me, just some transparent pictures render transparency as 
black, good example is reader.google.com. This also isn't new to me, 
some pictures was shown like this in previous driver versions. I was 
just a bit unsure who was bad at it.




Well, everything with a transparency, as you stated above, seems to be 
broken, reading Email is a horror, most web sites are rendered broken in 
Firefox 3. Luckily, within xterm everthing is ok.


I recompiled xorg and my windowmanager, no effect. Even xdm shows up 
with black bars were normally 'LOGIN:' and 'PASSWORD:' shows up ...


Is there a solution? The situation is serious ...

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Tel.: +49 (0) 30 838 70 508
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Re: nVidia driver update today: renders X11 unusable

2008-09-02 Thread Volodymyr Kostyrko

O. Hartmann wrote:
Just upgraded my ports and installed the new xf86-video-nv driver. Well, 
loggin out works now without crashing the Xorg server, but most fonts 
now show up as balck bars - unreadable and ugly :-(


Same for me, just some transparent pictures render transparency as 
black, good example is reader.google.com. This also isn't new to me, 
some pictures was shown like this in previous driver versions. I was 
just a bit unsure who was bad at it.


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nVidia driver update today: renders X11 unusable

2008-09-02 Thread O. Hartmann
Just upgraded my ports and installed the new xf86-video-nv driver. Well, 
loggin out works now without crashing the Xorg server, but most fonts 
now show up as balck bars - unreadable and ugly :-(

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