[Freecol-developers] Fwd: FreeCol Website

2015-05-05 Thread Caleb Williams
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Since then, I made a series of source code changes. Not really a huge deal
as it shouldn't effect the look of the site, just the code.

> I have mixed feelings about putting everything up on the repository,
>
> I am surprised.  I think we need to store it *somewhere*, if only to avoid
> losing it completely next time the web site is cracked.

I don't mind the fact that it is in a repository somewhere, just not in the
same one as the FreeCol Source code. It just seems to be needless clouding
things.


> > The only thing I don't like is having to deal with SF's Git
> implementation.
>
> Fair enough.  I am not troubled by it as I only use git at the command
> line.  Is that your only reservation?
>

For this iteration of a simple non-dynamic web site that allows for
semi-easy updating, yes.


> > I don't have any real issue with the website being included with the
> > release (not that too many are offline these days, but you could view
> > everything offline if needed). We will need to weed out PHP file then
> > though as the end user's computer will not be able to process them unless
> > they already have a PHP install running to parse the pages (something we
> > definitely don't want to depend on).
>
> The initial step is to cull the site down to the core static pages.  PHP
> is not required there.
>

Exactly. The first step will be to rename some files.

> Conversely, if we want eventual dynamic content delivered via PHP
>
> Let us decide that when the time comes.  The opinion of the people who do
> the work will carry the most weight.
>

As well it should.



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Re: [Freecol-developers] FreeCol Website

2015-05-05 Thread Michael T. Pope
On Tue, 5 May 2015 09:49:22 -0500
Caleb Williams  wrote:
> I have mixed feelings about putting everything up on the repository,

I am surprised.  I think we need to store it *somewhere*, if only to avoid
losing it completely next time the web site is cracked.

> The only thing I don't like is having to deal with SF's Git implementation.

Fair enough.  I am not troubled by it as I only use git at the command
line.  Is that your only reservation?

> I don't have any real issue with the website being included with the
> release (not that too many are offline these days, but you could view
> everything offline if needed). We will need to weed out PHP file then
> though as the end user's computer will not be able to process them unless
> they already have a PHP install running to parse the pages (something we
> definitely don't want to depend on).

The initial step is to cull the site down to the core static pages.  PHP
is not required there.

> Conversely, if we want eventual dynamic content delivered via PHP

Let us decide that when the time comes.  The opinion of the people who do
the work will carry the most weight.

Cheers,
Mike Pope


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Re: [Freecol-developers] Some paper-edge bugs.

2015-05-05 Thread Michael T. Pope
On Wed, 06 May 2015 00:14:02 +0200
Werner Bast  wrote:
> 1.) Panel with Bellproduktion(RebelTooltip) is to short

I suspect this bug is only visible auf Deutsch.  However I expect it is
easy to fix.

> 2.) In ColonyPanel the ColonyCargoPanel and the OutsideColonyPanel
> aren't localized at all

All translations of FreeCol are provided by the volunteers at
translatewiki (https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Translating:FreeCol).
If you have found a problem in a translation, please go there to fix
it.  Only the translatewiki maintainer commits changes to FreeCol
translations.

Cheers,
Mike Pope



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Re: [Freecol-developers] FreeCol Website

2015-05-05 Thread Caleb Williams
On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 7:20 AM, Michael T. Pope  wrote:

> On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 16:17:55 +0200
> Jonathan Aquilina  wrote:
> > If we opt to go with static pages we can setup a website repo and then
> > anyone can really make the changes then pull from the repo onto the
> > webserver.
>
> I have at last caught up with all the outstanding bugs that needed
> attention, so I have time to look at the website again.  Keeping things
> simple, I have grabbed a copy of the existing www.freecol.org and
> committed
> it to the FreeCol git tree.  It is about 45M (FreeCol git generally
> was about 300M), but I expect a fair portion of that is disconnected or
> outdated, so it can be slimmed down significantly.  I plan to work on
> upload-the-website and upload-what-has-changed scripts quite soon, and
> perhaps some other release-support script/s some time before next
> release[1].
>
> The way forward then is for volunteers to work on cleaning up what we have
> in the git tree, with the aim of reaching a lightweight set of static
> pages.  Once we are there, we can start adding more dynamic content
> like the project stats that Jonathan wants.  I have to investigate what
> privileges will be needed to upload to the website, that may be tricky.
>
> I am hoping Jonathan and perhaps Caleb will have time to work on this.
>
> Cheers,
> Mike Pope
>

Mike, et. al.,

I have mixed feelings about putting everything up on the repository, but
I'm generally feeling positive about this change. The only thing I don't
like is having to deal with SF's Git implementation.

I don't have any real issue with the website being included with the
release (not that too many are offline these days, but you could view
everything offline if needed). We will need to weed out PHP file then
though as the end user's computer will not be able to process them unless
they already have a PHP install running to parse the pages (something we
definitely don't want to depend on).

Conversely, if we want eventual dynamic content delivered via PHP, then we
would need to weight that with the fact that some content is being
available openly. For instance storing even a temporary username and
password hardcoded into a PHP file is out. For instance a hardcoded
variable (IE )
wouldn't work as even a rudimentary password protection for some
non-critical testing portion of the server. I wouldn't advise that type of
security be used in all but the most basic situations were something quick
needed to be implemented ASAP, but you get my drift.

Likewise, if there was some config file, that would need to be displayed as
is too. The localsettings.php in a WordPress install is an example of such
a file with personalized settings you wouldn't wanted added to the Git
repository.

As for permissions, that is also a tricky one.

WT,

Is that an issue with the question mark "?" in the file name to retrieve
GET variables.

Best,


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Re: [Freecol-developers] FreeCol Website

2015-05-05 Thread winter
Hi,

somehow this is giving problems on Windows, with files not being able
to be created. Could you fix this?

Greetings,
wintertime


$ git status
On branch master
Your branch is up-to-date with 'origin/master'.

Changes to be committed:
  (use "git reset HEAD ..." to unstage)

deleted:www.freecol.org/index.html?section=4
deleted:www.freecol.org/index.php?section=15
deleted:www.freecol.org/javadoc/index.html?overview-summary.html


$ git reset --hard
error: Invalid path 'www.freecol.org/index.html?section=4'
error: Invalid path 'www.freecol.org/index.php?section=15'
error: Invalid path 'www.freecol.org/javadoc/index.html?overview-summary.html'
HEAD is now at 2d39884 Add the website to the repo.


> Gesendet: Dienstag, 05. Mai 2015 um 14:20 Uhr
> Von: "Michael T. Pope" 
> An: freecol-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
> Betreff: Re: [Freecol-developers] FreeCol Website
>
> On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 16:17:55 +0200
> Jonathan Aquilina  wrote:
> > If we opt to go with static pages we can setup a website repo and then
> > anyone can really make the changes then pull from the repo onto the
> > webserver.
> 
> I have at last caught up with all the outstanding bugs that needed
> attention, so I have time to look at the website again.  Keeping things
> simple, I have grabbed a copy of the existing www.freecol.org and committed
> it to the FreeCol git tree.  It is about 45M (FreeCol git generally
> was about 300M), but I expect a fair portion of that is disconnected or
> outdated, so it can be slimmed down significantly.  I plan to work on
> upload-the-website and upload-what-has-changed scripts quite soon, and
> perhaps some other release-support script/s some time before next
> release[1].
> 
> The way forward then is for volunteers to work on cleaning up what we have
> in the git tree, with the aim of reaching a lightweight set of static
> pages.  Once we are there, we can start adding more dynamic content
> like the project stats that Jonathan wants.  I have to investigate what
> privileges will be needed to upload to the website, that may be tricky.
> 
> I am hoping Jonathan and perhaps Caleb will have time to work on this.
> 
> Cheers,
> Mike Pope
> 

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Re: [Freecol-developers] FreeCol Website

2015-05-05 Thread Michael T. Pope
On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 16:17:55 +0200
Jonathan Aquilina  wrote:
> If we opt to go with static pages we can setup a website repo and then
> anyone can really make the changes then pull from the repo onto the
> webserver.

I have at last caught up with all the outstanding bugs that needed
attention, so I have time to look at the website again.  Keeping things
simple, I have grabbed a copy of the existing www.freecol.org and committed
it to the FreeCol git tree.  It is about 45M (FreeCol git generally
was about 300M), but I expect a fair portion of that is disconnected or
outdated, so it can be slimmed down significantly.  I plan to work on
upload-the-website and upload-what-has-changed scripts quite soon, and
perhaps some other release-support script/s some time before next
release[1].

The way forward then is for volunteers to work on cleaning up what we have
in the git tree, with the aim of reaching a lightweight set of static
pages.  Once we are there, we can start adding more dynamic content
like the project stats that Jonathan wants.  I have to investigate what
privileges will be needed to upload to the website, that may be tricky.

I am hoping Jonathan and perhaps Caleb will have time to work on this.

Cheers,
Mike Pope




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