Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS as a unikernel?
Hi Pablo/Eric/All, I guess there are many different strategies to handle it But maybe what you're looking for is a customized version of dosemu (http://www.dosemu.org)? It seems that usually, unikernels are some sort of "container" or application-oriented operating system (https://www.lisha.ufsc.br/pub/Frohlich_2001.pdf) in the sense that you embed a single application together with the kernel (single address space operating system with just enough drivers/infrastructure) Kind Regards, Geraldo Netto site: http://exdev.sf.net github: https://github.com/geraldo-netto linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/geraldonetto facebook: https://web.facebook.com/geraldo.netto.161 On Mon, 1 Mar 2021 at 20:28, Pablo Pessolani wrote: > > Thanks Eric. > I am not thinking in running binary DOS applications which use the real mode. > I am thinking in source code applications built (compiled) on linux but > instead of linked with libc library, they should be linked to a new "libdosc" > library which use the FreeDOS system calls and environment. > It would be a linux executable binary file. > Regards. > PAP > > > De: Eric Auer > Enviado: lunes, 1 de marzo de 2021 15:52 > Para: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > Asunto: Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS as a unikernel? > > > Hi PAP, > > I assume unikernel means replacing hardware I/O by > calls to a suitable hypervisor interface? In a way, > DOS already does that by using BIOS. So you could > make a BIOS-Unikernel and then run FreeDOS as app > on that. But how do you deal with the fact that a > DOS kernel and DOS apps will prefer a DOS memory > model with real mode compatible pointers, can the > hypervisor offer such spaces? > > Regards, Eric > > > > > Hi Guys. > > I am working on several unikernels on Linux > > (not over QEMU, KVM, XEN or any other emulator/ > > hypervisor) using Linux system calls and the > > virtualization facilities offered by the Linux kernel. > > > Would there be any interest in modifying freedos > > so that it can run on Linux and its virtual devices > > instead of running on real hardware (as User Mode Linux does) ? > > Regards. > > PAP > > > > ___ > Freedos-devel mailing list > Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel > ___ > Freedos-devel mailing list > Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] [Freedos-user] aefdisk/masterbooter open sourced
Hello My Friends, First of all, hope you all had a great christmas time! On Thu, 20 Dec 2018 at 16:17, TK Chia wrote: > > Hello Jerome, hello Geraldo, > > >> Seems to require borland c/tasm > > Unfortunately, aefdisk won’t compile under TASM 4.1. > > Tried. But, It throws a couple errors and warnings. > > This is interesting. > > It seems the aefdisk sources are using some strange syntax extensions > which I have not seen before --- perhaps these are supported by certain > versions of tasm? Dunno :( But I opened a ticket for Nagy Daniel (https://github.com/nagydjol/aefdisk/issues/1) Asking his tasm/borland c compiler Maybe we could integrate it on freedos repository or even deprecate our fdisk in favor of aefdisk in future > For example, there is >ends > rather than say >_DATA ends > to end a segment definition without specifying a segment name. There is > also >MBRloader label > rather than >MBRloader: > to label something that is not a procedure. > > (I am copying this mail to freedos-devel, since I believe that will be a > more appropriate venue.) > > Thank you! > > -- > https://github.com/tkchia Kind Regards, Geraldo Netto Sapere Aude => Non dvcor, dvco http://exdev.sf.net/ ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2
Hello Mateusz/All, How are you doing? Well, no one reported any issue until now So, we can upload the translations Regarding the update itself, whatever works best for you is okay for me :) In case you prefer the svn, my source forge user is geraldonetto Also, i have checked Alain's translation The only issue is that most of it (if not all) is encoded as ascii when time permits i'll work on it :) Kind Regards, Geraldo Netto Sapere Aude => Non dvcor, dvco http://exdev.sf.net/ On 21 November 2015 at 05:26, Mateusz Viste <mate...@viste.fr> wrote: > Hi Geraldo, > > Looks nice! Let me know when it is confirmed that translations are okay, > I will gladly add them. Or, if you wish, I can provide you svn access to > the project so you can maintain these languages yourself. > > Side note: in any case, if/when you provide any files to the > freedoslocal project (be it through mail or svn), please make sure the > files are encoded in UTF-8. > > cheers, > Mateusz > > > > On 21/11/2015 03:33, Geraldo Netto wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> Based on Rugxulo/Mateusz FreeDOS local link >> I took a few minutes to make some (brazilian) portuguese translations >> of the following softwares: >> (Translatations available at [1]) >> >> choice >> compute >> find >> help >> more >> password >> pause >> sort >> tee >> trch >> >> Before asking to push on SVN, i'd like to ask any brazilian or >> portuguese to test and report >> [1] https://www.dropbox.com/sh/agz9n342trjorqg/AAAX8ExU4G0eBwOOgOz_v7Paa?dl=0 >> >> >> >> Kind Regards, >> >> Geraldo Netto >> Sapere Aude => Non dvcor, dvco >> http://exdev.sf.net/ >> >> On 20 November 2015 at 22:50, Rugxulo <rugx...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Eric Auer <e.a...@jpberlin.de> wrote: >>>> >>>> But back to the original question: The installer should >>>> support English, plus any language for which somebody on >>>> this list is interested in giving you a translation of a >>>> message file of your installer :-) For example Spanish, >>>> maybe Portuguese, Russian, French, German, even Dutch ;-) >>> >>> For example, support on http://freedoslocal.sourceforge.net/ is >>> underwhelming, to say the least. As much as some of us would like to >>> fully support at least "some" extra language options, it's just not >>> feasible (without a lot of time and energy, which even enthusiasts >>> like me are lacking these days). >>> >>> So (obviously) it comes down to whoever is willing to do the work. If >>> no one is willing to step up to the plate, then "English only" it is. >>> Not ideal but perhaps unavoidable. (Maybe all such worrying about this >>> should wait until FD 1.2.1 or 1.3 or 2.0.) >>> >>> -- >>> ___ >>> Freedos-devel mailing list >>> Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel >> >> -- >> > > > > -- > ___ > Freedos-devel mailing list > Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Go from Idea to Many App Stores Faster with Intel(R) XDK Give your users amazing mobile app experiences with Intel(R) XDK. Use one codebase in this all-in-one HTML5 development environment. Design, debug & build mobile apps & 2D/3D high-impact games for multiple OSs. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=254741551=/4140 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2
Hello Maarten, How are you doing? Actually, all you need to do is go to http://freedoslocal.sourceforge.net/ right-click and save any file from "en" column :) So, you will download the original english file Then you can translate and save it with .nl (?) When saving you have to take care with the 'file encoding', it must be UTF-8 So, if you are using notepad on Windows you will have to change it from "ANSI" to "UTF-8" Finally, you send it to Mateusz :) Kind Regards, Geraldo Netto Sapere Aude => Non dvcor, dvco http://exdev.sf.net/ On 22 November 2015 at 17:48, Maarten Vermeulen <netraa...@gmail.com> wrote: > I like to add to this that I can give you Dutch. > If you like the fact of being lazy, you can give me what you want to > translate and I translate it. > Or if you want a list of words or whatever else, I can search for it. But it > is late here so that would probably be tomorrow or even Tuesday... While > some words can be fast. > You choose. :) > > Sorry for answering so late. :) > > Maarten > > Van: Maarten Vermeulen > Verzonden: 22-11-2015 20:40 > Aan: Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers. > Onderwerp: RE: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 > > Hi, > > I personally like Dutch supported as well. > I'm Dutch and can English but sometimes I prefer my own language. :) > In the very old fdbasecd I liked the option of having Dutch. > > Maarten > > Van: Jerome E. Shidel Jr. > Verzonden: 20-11-2015 23:20 > Aan: Technical discussion and questions for FreeDOS developers. > Onderwerp: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2 > > First: > > What languages would you like to see FDI 1.2 support: > > English (EN) > Spanish (ES) > > (anything else?) > > Second: > > Nobody has any idea on what additional packages are > to be included in “all packages”? > -- > ___ > Freedos-devel mailing list > Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel > > -- > > ___ > Freedos-devel mailing list > Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel > -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS 1.2
Hi All, Based on Rugxulo/Mateusz FreeDOS local link I took a few minutes to make some (brazilian) portuguese translations of the following softwares: (Translatations available at [1]) choice compute find help more password pause sort tee trch Before asking to push on SVN, i'd like to ask any brazilian or portuguese to test and report [1] https://www.dropbox.com/sh/agz9n342trjorqg/AAAX8ExU4G0eBwOOgOz_v7Paa?dl=0 Kind Regards, Geraldo Netto Sapere Aude => Non dvcor, dvco http://exdev.sf.net/ On 20 November 2015 at 22:50, Rugxulo <rugx...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Eric Auer <e.a...@jpberlin.de> wrote: >> >> But back to the original question: The installer should >> support English, plus any language for which somebody on >> this list is interested in giving you a translation of a >> message file of your installer :-) For example Spanish, >> maybe Portuguese, Russian, French, German, even Dutch ;-) > > For example, support on http://freedoslocal.sourceforge.net/ is > underwhelming, to say the least. As much as some of us would like to > fully support at least "some" extra language options, it's just not > feasible (without a lot of time and energy, which even enthusiasts > like me are lacking these days). > > So (obviously) it comes down to whoever is willing to do the work. If > no one is willing to step up to the plate, then "English only" it is. > Not ideal but perhaps unavoidable. (Maybe all such worrying about this > should wait until FD 1.2.1 or 1.3 or 2.0.) > > -- > ___ > Freedos-devel mailing list > Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] XFTOOLS - exFAT access a la LTOOLS
Hi Rugxulo/Joe/All, Indeed :) BTW, Joe also provided me the beta version of his ltools-like exfat :) And open watcom is throwing "Floating point exception" on my linux mint: talvisota Downloads # uname -a Linux talvisota 3.13.0-37-generic #64-Ubuntu SMP Mon Sep 22 21:28:38 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux talvisota Downloads # free -m total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 3938890 3048 3 70429 -/+ buffers/cache:390 3548 Swap: 4093 0 4093 talvisota Downloads # ./open-watcom-c-linux-1.9 Floating point exception In any case, i have a freedos setup with open watcom under vmware... I'm also working on Alain's approach (ubuntu server + freedos in a minimal iso booting freedos directly) And i'll ask Bart "Olderman" to review Alain's patches, let's see what happens next I know that i'm stalling but i swear i'll continue to work on both approaches as long as my time permits Kind Regards, Geraldo Netto Sapere Aude => Non dvcor, dvco São Paulo, Brasil, -3gmt site: http://exdev.sf.net/ On 16 October 2015 at 19:12, Rugxulo <rugx...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > It seems that 15.09 is out, which claims: "now can extract ext2 and > multivolume VMDK images". > > http://sourceforge.net/p/sevenzip/discussion/45797/thread/24f079ab/ > > http://www.7-zip.org/a/7z1509-src.7z > > > On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Rugxulo <rugx...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Rugxulo <rugx...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> 7-Zip 15.08 "now can extract ext3 and ext4 (Linux file system) images." >>> >>> http://sourceforge.net/p/sevenzip/discussion/45797/thread/7d9ac43f/ >> >> Sources seem to be available now, e.g. 7z1508-src.7z's >> CPP\7zip\Archive\ExtHandler.cpp . > > -- > ___ > Freedos-devel mailing list > Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] exfat support from android linux for freedos sdxc support and more?
Oi Alain/All,
Tudo certinho por ai? :)
Well, i think we have different approaches for different needs :P
Alain, while many people dislike the approach you proposed, i can help
updating the distro
That would provide a quick workaround for dosemu users
BTW, what are the bugs that you have found? it is easily reproducible?
Did you report it to Bart ("Bart Olderman")?
Besides your approach there is the approach proposed by Joe
And yet the cdex extention
Let's keep track on all :P
Kind Regards,
Geraldo Netto
Sapere Aude => Non dvcor, dvco
São Paulo, Brasil, -3gmt
site: http://exdev.sf.net/
On 30 September 2015 at 20:36, Alain Mouette <ala...@pobox.com> wrote:
> The point is running DOS programs
>
> And also having a stable modern platform behind to run on any possible new
> hardware (x86)
>
> Alain
>
>
> On 29-09-2015 22:50, Chelson Aitcheson wrote:
>
> What would be the point of freedos ? Might as well be another Linux distro
>
> On 29/09/2015 1:09 pm, "Geraldo Netto" <geraldone...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> First of all, thank you all very very much for your support :)
>> Indeed, i have to follow the whole thread as Eric said
>> Also, all tips are very valuable and Eduardo even provided a real
>> project to start :P
>>
>> Well, i prefer to be low profile/humble to not create much expectations
>> also because i'm mainly used to java/python which is way different from c
>> and i have no experience with asm so, i'll have a long learning curve
>>
>>
>> Thank You Very Much and Kind Regards,
>>
>> Geraldo Netto
>> Sapere Aude => Non dvcor, dvco
>> São Paulo, Brasil, -3gmt
>> site: http://exdev.sf.net/
>>
>> On 28 September 2015 at 18:20, Eric Auer <e.a...@jpberlin.de> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Jim and Geraldo,
>> >
>> > of course I agree that exFAT should be accessed using the
>> > network redirector or CDEX interface: It would be too large
>> > to be in the kernel, should not be carried around with the
>> > kernel all the time and should be kept separately for the
>> > case that there are licensing issues. However, all of this
>> > has been mentioned earlier in this thread. Geraldo, I know
>> > that you did not receive the first few mails here by mail,
>> > so please go to the freedos-devel web archive to read the
>> > earlier mails, including useful links to code and info. For
>> > example VMSMOUNT for VMWare drives is a nice DOS driver :-)
>> >
>> > Cheers, Eric
>> >
>> >>> So, what do you think?
>> >>> what is the svn link to checkout the freedos kernel code? [...]
>> >
>> >> If you decide to write an exFAT implementation, I ask that you *not*
>> >> put this into the FreeDOS kernel directly. Rather, this should be
>> >> implemented as an external driver. As others have already pointed out,
>> >> there are patent concerns with this. [...]
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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Re: [Freedos-devel] exfat support from android linux for freedos sdxc support and more?
Hi All, First of all, thank you all very very much for your support :) Indeed, i have to follow the whole thread as Eric said Also, all tips are very valuable and Eduardo even provided a real project to start :P Well, i prefer to be low profile/humble to not create much expectations also because i'm mainly used to java/python which is way different from c and i have no experience with asm so, i'll have a long learning curve Thank You Very Much and Kind Regards, Geraldo Netto Sapere Aude => Non dvcor, dvco São Paulo, Brasil, -3gmt site: http://exdev.sf.net/ On 28 September 2015 at 18:20, Eric Auer <e.a...@jpberlin.de> wrote: > > Hi Jim and Geraldo, > > of course I agree that exFAT should be accessed using the > network redirector or CDEX interface: It would be too large > to be in the kernel, should not be carried around with the > kernel all the time and should be kept separately for the > case that there are licensing issues. However, all of this > has been mentioned earlier in this thread. Geraldo, I know > that you did not receive the first few mails here by mail, > so please go to the freedos-devel web archive to read the > earlier mails, including useful links to code and info. For > example VMSMOUNT for VMWare drives is a nice DOS driver :-) > > Cheers, Eric > >>> So, what do you think? >>> what is the svn link to checkout the freedos kernel code? [...] > >> If you decide to write an exFAT implementation, I ask that you *not* >> put this into the FreeDOS kernel directly. Rather, this should be >> implemented as an external driver. As others have already pointed out, >> there are patent concerns with this. [...] > > > > > -- > ___ > Freedos-devel mailing list > Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] exfat support from android linux for freedos sdxc support and more?
Hi All, I was talking to Eric a few days ago about this exfat thread and while we are worried with the license issues I would like to volunteer myself to port current exfat from linux kernel to freedos Of course, once it's a no-trivial thing i would like to ask your support i cannot promise anything by now, once i know that talk is cheap as Mateusz and Tom reported :) So, what do you think? what is the svn link to checkout the freedos kernel code? does freedos have any vfs-equivalent interface? which files are involved? is Pat's book a valid/current reference to freedos kernel? which books would you suggest me to read? what is the easiest way to setup the compiler? i mean, should i setup a freedos vm with with openwatcom or freeware version of tc or do we have a way to 'cross-compile' freedos kernel on linux and use the vm just to test the code? Suggestions are always very welcomed :P Kind Regards, Geraldo Netto Sapere Aude => Non dvcor, dvco São Paulo, Brasil, -3gmt site: http://exdev.sf.net/ On 25 September 2015 at 19:14, Ralf Quint <freedos...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 9/24/2015 12:33 PM, Mercury Thirteen wrote: >> We could undercut the competition and make our own free FAT >> implementation which does fills the same niche as exFAT. >> > Which will be extremely hard to do without interfering with those patents... > > Ralf > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > -- > ___ > Freedos-devel mailing list > Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] exfat support from android linux for freedos sdxc support and more?
Hi All, Well, i suppose lean fs is not a mainstream filesystem like the FAT family, ntfs and ext* Kind Regards, Geraldo Netto Sapere Aude => Non dvcor, dvco São Paulo, Brasil, -3gmt site: http://exdev.sf.net/ On 27 September 2015 at 22:16, Chelson Aitcheson <chelson.aitche...@gmail.com> wrote: > Has anyone considered the lean file system at all? > > On 25/09/2015 9:13 pm, "Eric Auer" <e.a...@jpberlin.de> wrote: >> >> >> Hi Mercury, >> >> (note: 2 GB and one core are no problem even for DOS - but >> for example 8 GB and several cores are supported by almost >> nothing in DOS, as there are no nice DOS extenders for it) >> >> > I don't see where we need multitasking for NAS use. A program could be >> > made to both handle incoming requests while serving data and doing other >> > tasks, eliminating the need for a proper multitasking kernel. Even if >> >> You would still have to have several files and networking >> connections open at the same time and preferably transfer >> data from several files in parallel. In Linux, you can do >> that with good performance, but DOS performance is limited >> because your server must not do concurrent kernel calls. >> >> > that was the case, the bloat of the Linux kernel would >> > make it prohibitive in certain applications. >> >> Give an example for that - Linux can even run as embedded >> operating system on SD cards with built-in Wifi / WLAN :-) >> I mean on tiny computers of the size of an actual SD card! >> >> > I will draw up a spec as I said when I get the time. After that, >> > implementation is up to the rest of the community. We could just >> > as easily go with FAT+ or not advance the filesystem at all. >> >> As far as I understand, you feel limited by the maximum file >> size of 2 or maybe 4 GB and maximum disk size of 2 TB? Then >> you may want to start with adding GPT support to the kernel. >> >> Another issue is that FAT32 has bad performance and that the >> FAT way of doing LFN is rather ugly internally as well. Which >> other improvements do you have in mind for your new format? >> >> >> >> And of course: Please really have a look at EXISTING formats >> to avoid re-inventing the wheel. Maybe ext2/3/4 already has >> what you need while allowing a relatively small driver, too? >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_systems#Limits >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FATX#Derivatives >> (only FAT+ as used on some DR variants might be a bit useful) >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HFS_Plus#Linux >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext2 (ext3/ext4 are more complex) >> >> Even a more complete UDF implementation might be cool for flash >> next to DVD: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Disk_Format >> >> Plus some other filesystems which seemed "too licensed" or too >> complex and too feature rich to me, so start reading as above. >> For example ZFS & Btrfs are probably too comprehensive for DOS. >> >> For general FS inspiration, a Be File System book and overview: >> >> http://www.nobius.org/~dbg/ >> http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/06/the-beos-filesystem.ars >> >> In short, I guess ext2 and HFS+ might be good choices for "being >> the next filesystem to have improved free DOS drivers available"? >> See also some already existing filesystem drivers for those two: >> >> http://www.catacombae.org/hfsexplorer/ >> >> http://www.ext2fsd.com/?page_id=2 which is downloadable from: >> http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd/files/ >> >> http://uranus.chrysocome.net/linux/ext2ifs.htm >> >> http://www.ibiblio.org/filesystems/howto/Filesystems-HOWTO-6.html >> ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/filesystems/ext2/ >> >> Cheers, Eric >> >> >> >> PS: Level 3 of ISO9660 also sounds nice, do DOS drivers support it? >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_9660 >> >> PPS: Does anybody still have a new copy of the ext2 DOS "LTOOLS"? >> The download is no longer available after 18 years due to EOL. The >> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/utils/dos/ copy is old, from 2001. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> ___ >> Freedos-devel mailing list >> Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel > > > -- > > ___ > Freedos-devel mailing list > Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel > -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] BtrFS filesystem in FreeDOS
Hi Serg! Unfortunately (AFAIK) FreeDOS cannot handle it once there are many differencies between linux and freedos at low level Can`t you use any kind of cd/usb linux? i myself use system rescue cd http://www.sysresccd.org/ People will suggest others :P Kind Regards and Best Wishes, Geraldo Netto Non dvcor, dvco = Sapere Aude São Paulo, Brasil, -3gmt site: http://exdev.sf.net/ On 18 July 2012 09:22, sergei karhof karho...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, what are the chances of seeing a FreeDOS driver for the BtrFS filesystem anytime soon? As many of you may already know, BtrFS is poised to become the next Linux standard filesystem very soon, replacing the ext family of filesystems. BtrFS is really good, and is getting better and better. It would be really, really nice to have a FreeDOS driver for it, so at the very least we would be able to access BtrFS volumes (for instance, for maintenance and repair). Is anyone planning to work on it? Thanks Serg -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] TDSK related issues.
Hallo!
Mceric == Eric (Auer) :P
Geraldo Netto
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On 6 August 2011 20:40, Jim Hall jh...@freedos.org wrote:
Anyone can please upload the __correct__ HISTORY.TXT file for the
2040 kernel release on some place where it is easily discoverable ?
Both SF and fdos.org ?
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Re: [Freedos-devel] Talk this Tuesday
Hi, Pat, can you post the slides somewhere? btw, what about updating the dos-c book? maybe we can raise some money and create such a freedos foundation, eheheh (okay, pushing too far, i know, but why not?) or enroll freedos on gsoc? imho, this is a way to keep freedos alive and get some marketing eheheh, a guy in fi like 19years ago started writing his own operating system, now we have linux :) eh, even m$ fears it and now we have FUD... See Ya, (okay, maybe a foolish opinion from a newbie) Geraldo Non dvcor, dvco = Sapere Aude São Paulo, Brasil, -3gmt site: http://exdev.sf.net/ On 19 November 2010 17:04, Pat Villani p...@freedos.org wrote: My apologies for cross posting. If you have access to Brookdale Community College in Lincroft, NJ, and want to hear a talk given by yours truly, stop by this Tuesday, November 23. The talk will be on operating system tool chains, debugging and writing OS start up code, and it is based on a couple of small, 32-bit kernels that I came up with to illustrate the principles behind the talk. The talk will be in Larrison Hall 113 and will start at noon. Thanks for the bandwidth. Pat -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today http://p.sf.net/sfu/msIE9-sfdev2dev ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today http://p.sf.net/sfu/msIE9-sfdev2dev ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Developer Contirbution
Hi, all you need is to make sure the code is under any open source approved license - http://www.opensource.org/licenses and then make it available at the web (Eric can help you putting files at ibiblio - http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/ btw, it is highly recommended to make a package for your softwares... i don't remember the structure, but it must be a zip file and it also needs a lsm file which describes your software (ie: release date, contacts and so on...) hope it helps Geraldo Non dvcor, dvco = Sapere Aude São Paulo, Brasil, -3gmt site: http://exdev.sf.net/ On 22 May 2010 15:18, Asa electro.leg...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am a hobby programmer and I am interested in submitting small utilites that I have written for DOS to the FreeDOS project. Can you give me any information in regards to this? PS: I have tried reading links on FD website and sourceforge, but I'm still not very clear about how to go about this, that's why I'm writing this message. -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Realtek cards and DOS
Hi! actually, good question! Alain/Eric probably has some tips on it i never played with networks in dos, never needed... and once my main operating system is kubuntu all i do is run freedos through qemu or dosemu... btw, off topic, which city from brazil do you live? :) Geraldo Non dvcor, dvco = Sapere Aude São Paulo, Brasil, -3gmt site: http://exdev.sf.net/ On 27 April 2010 01:12, jasse...@itelefonica.com.br jasse...@itelefonica.com.br wrote: Geraldo Netto said: btw, realtek net cards are cheap here in brazil and has drivers for (free)dos afaik... and Alain Mouette commented: I already use them when possible: if the user has one, if there is a free PCI slot, if it is not a fake Realtek... Did any of you install their DOS ndis2 drivers in Windows systems ? All Realtek cards I saw came with an OEMSETUP.INF file, which I do not know how to use with the Windows installer to add (not replace) the DOS drivers to the existing Windows ndis3 drivers. Regards, JAS -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Volunteering - Arachne
Hi all, wouldn't be better porting dillo for freedos? imho, the main bottleneck is the gui part that should be re written http://www.dillo.org/ See Ya, Geraldo Sapere Aude Non ducor, duco São Paulo, Brasil, -3gmt site: http://exdev.sf.net/ msn: geraldo_boca_at_hotmail.com skype: geraldo-netto icq: 145-061-456 2009/3/29 Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de: Hi, - As I think xswap will not work in native Linux You will not need any of that if you simply compile Arachne with a 32bit compiler in the first place. Why it can't be also simple compiled on DOS with 32 bit compiler? That is what I meant - port Arachne to GNU C / DJGPP and then you have better performance in DOS - and an easier life in porting to Linux. Two good things for one effort. - Dr WebSpyder and Lineo Embrowser (unfortunately no source code) ported to Allegro and gave Arachne a speed boost. Arachne has GPL license so you can force WebSpyder/Lineo to make their Arachne modifications public. No, them have purchased a proprietary license from the copyright holders (original developers). GPL doesn't surrender rights. It's dual licensing like with Qt. Oh I understand. That is bad luck for fans then, fans will have to port Arachne to Allegro a second time if they want a free open source Allegro based Arachne... Eric -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] fd 1.1 pkg doubts
Oi Alain! eheheh, another 'brazuca conf' :) Henrique should be somewhere too :) Thanks for this info Alain I hope/wish i get all fd 1.1 package in shape in a few weeks i can not promise, but i'll try... See Ya! Geraldo Sapere Aude Non ducor, duco São Paulo, Brasil, -3gmt site: http://exdev.sf.net/ msn: geraldo_boca_at_hotmail.com skype: geraldo-netto icq: 145-061-456 2009/2/2 Alain M. ala...@pobox.com: Oi Geraldo, Only some programs are able to use NLS, so for some other progs it is not needed. Those that have NLS are easy to translate because they use kitten (or cats)... Alain Geraldo Netto escreveu: Hi Guys, How are you doing there? first, sorry for posting it twice(i mean, i think some people will probably receive this msg twice because they should be already subscribed in the mailing list, i guess...) until now, i have no more than 20 packages ready for distribution but not really tested yet some others are already fine for fd 1.1 release as Eric pointed in pvt some time ago :) now, i just found some differences from ready packages and the format i'm using example: 7zip has the following dirs: appinfo bin doc packages and choice has the following dirs: appinfo bin doc help nls packages should i add nls and help on packages that i'm working on ever if the software has no kitten/add-here-your-prefered-lib-for-nls-stuff and no help page(html i think?)? besides this, i'm working to get more free time and get it done asap :) See Ya! Geraldo Sapere Aude Non ducor, duco São Paulo, Brasil, -3gmt site: http://exdev.sf.net/ msn: geraldo_boca_at_hotmail.com skype: geraldo-netto icq: 145-061-456 -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
[Freedos-devel] fd 1.1 pkg doubts
Hi Guys, How are you doing there? first, sorry for posting it twice(i mean, i think some people will probably receive this msg twice because they should be already subscribed in the mailing list, i guess...) until now, i have no more than 20 packages ready for distribution but not really tested yet some others are already fine for fd 1.1 release as Eric pointed in pvt some time ago :) now, i just found some differences from ready packages and the format i'm using example: 7zip has the following dirs: appinfo bin doc packages and choice has the following dirs: appinfo bin doc help nls packages should i add nls and help on packages that i'm working on ever if the software has no kitten/add-here-your-prefered-lib-for-nls-stuff and no help page(html i think?)? besides this, i'm working to get more free time and get it done asap :) See Ya! Geraldo Sapere Aude Non ducor, duco São Paulo, Brasil, -3gmt site: http://exdev.sf.net/ msn: geraldo_boca_at_hotmail.com skype: geraldo-netto icq: 145-061-456 -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS LSM and fdupdate inventory issues
Hi, i would suggest to extend fdupdate as freedos main pkg front end all we need to do is add the possibility to create local repos i mean, be able to use cd, floppy or whatever as a repo :) and of course still use fdpkg and back end... Geraldo Sapere Aude Non ducor, duco São Paulo, Brasil, -3gmt site: http://exdev.sf.net/ msn: geraldo_boca_at_hotmail.com skype: geraldo-netto icq: 145-061-456 2009/1/3 Mateusz Viste mate...@viste-family.net: On Monday 22 December 2008 23:49, Jim Hall wrote: I think it's better to keep them separate. I like that FDUPDATE only does one thing - download updates. FDPKG is pretty mature, and should remain the package manager. To try to push that functionality into FDUPDATE at this time would risk adding too many bugs. Basically I agree with you, Jim. However, it's important to note that FDUPDATE is not only an updater, it may install new software from online repositories, too :-) In any case, it should be perceived as an network tool, and it *requires* FDPKG anyway, as the whole remove/install/update stuff work is done externally by FDPKG, not by FDUPDATE (FDUPDATE acts just as a wrapper then). Best regards, Mateusz V. -- You'll find my public OpenPGP key at http://www.viste-family.net/mateusz/pub_key -- ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] compiling freedos
Hi, uhm, would be very interesting having a tinderbox :) See Ya, Geraldo São Paulo, Brasil, -3gmt site: http://exdev.sf.net/ msn: geraldo_boca_at_hotmail.com skype: geraldo-netto icq: 145-061-456 2008/11/12 Eric Auer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi! I can't use a batch file in my Linux environment. Therefore, I have to write some script to compile it. I will look closer at the batch file and see about the XCPU setting. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/projects/dos_stuff/freedos_src/blah/kernel$ nasm asmsupt.asm segs.inc:34: error: symbol `XCPU' not defined before use Please have a look at the build.bat and config.b files. Basically you edit config.b, rename to config.bat, and then build.bat invokes it to set some env variables... It should be quite feasible to translate the mechanism to Bash :-). I think some of the work is also done by standard Makefile files, so after setting the environ- ment variables in your Linux shell, you can re-use at least some of the batch files. Please use the following: - SVN snapshot of FreeDOS 2038 stable kernel or similar - NASM - OpenWatcom C - UPX (for example 2.x) I think having a set of scripts for crosscompiling from Linux would be useful, so once you got it working, it would be nice if you could publish the scripts so that others can use them as well :-). Eric PS: You can try to contact Jeremy Davis (can be hard!?) as I believe his (now very outdated!) fdos.org page also had automated FreeDOS kernel builds made on a Linux server?? - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] compiling freedos
Hi Warren, How are you doing there? i'm pretty newbie to confirm it, but i think you **should** use a bat called make.bat or something like that... afaik, xcpu(for 8086 and 386) is also configured in this batch See Ya, Geraldo São Paulo, Brasil, -3gmt site: http://exdev.sf.net/ msn: geraldo_boca_at_hotmail.com skype: geraldo-netto icq: 145-061-456 2008/11/11 Warren Turkal [EMAIL PROTECTED] So, I am messing around with compiling Freedos. I checked out the lasted code from the Subversion repo, and I am working on Linux. It seems there is no build system for Linux so I am trying to discover some things. Here's an example of something failing: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/projects/dos_stuff/freedos_src/blah/kernel$ nasm asmsupt.asm segs.inc:34: error: symbol `XCPU' not defined before use segs.inc:41: error: parser: instruction expected segs.inc:42: error: symbol `group' redefined segs.inc:42: error: parser: instruction expected segs.inc:43: error: symbol `group' redefined segs.inc:43: error: parser: instruction expected segs.inc:48: error: symbol `group' redefined segs.inc:48: error: parser: instruction expected segs.inc:49: error: symbol `group' redefined segs.inc:49: error: parser: instruction expected segs.inc:50: error: symbol `group' redefined segs.inc:50: error: parser: instruction expected I have some questions. Is there any reason to be defining XCPU anymore? It seems that nasm has supported CPU for a long, long time. Also, does anyone know why the group instructions don't seem to be working? Thanks, wt - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS directory structure (technotes)
Hi guys, Yeah, i had the same problem which Aitor faced... technote 232: http://www.freedos.org/freedos/news/technote/232.html technote 233: http://www.freedos.org/freedos/news/technote/233.html Geraldo On 19/01/2008, Aitor Santamaría [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Suggestion: the technote page seems not to be easily accessible from freedos.org. Why not a link anywhere? (or is it just me that I don't find it, unless I run a search?). Aitor 2008/1/19, Jim Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I had promised to write something about the directory structure (for FreeDOS 1.1, and for the Update program.) I have finally (!) entered them as Technotes 232 and 233 on www.freedos.org. I tried to use lots of copy/paste from the discussion on the mailing list. -jh - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel -- site: http://extremedev.sf.net msn: geraldo_boca_at_hotmail.com skype: geraldo-netto icq: 145-061-456 - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] Re: HTML Help MEM
Hi David, Hi all, Sure man, thank you so much for you help :) Well, about the second question, i think that size matters when we talk about *DOS but i also think that what i did on docs was a try to improve user's experience, i don't know, i would like to have all suggestions Cheers, Geraldo ps: i'm always open to suggestions ps2: Eric, i did not forget what you said about just release ODIN even with out-of-date docs because there are many updates of softwares, i agree with you in part, because we always can type software-name /?, what do you all think? Could it be a problem for users? On 27/01/06, David O'Shea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Geraldo, Thanks for your reply. I see you made some updates to the MEM help page. There are lots of new commands now so I have a lot more updates to make to it. Mind if I make those and then send you the new page? Also do we need to try and be brief in the text so as not to consume too much disk space? I know the files are ZIPped up but was wondering if we still need to be careful? Thanks in advance, David --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid3432bid#0486dat1642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
Re: [Freedos-devel] HTML Help MEM
Hi Tom, How are you? Sometime ago i remember that people found a problem in fdisk on both versions(1.2.1 and 1.3.0(beta)) I just remember that it may corrupt mbr, right? And a simple workaround at that moment was edit fdisk.ini and change the value of write to off Remember? Geraldo On 26/01/06, tom ehlert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Geraldo, and i also would like to ask about fdisk, what happened? did someone fixed the bug? AFAIK it is a critical bug(?) 'the' Bug ? which one are you referring to ? Tom --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid3432bid#0486dat1642 ___ Freedos-devel mailing list Freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-devel
