Re: [Freedos-devel] virtual environment

2006-09-04 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi!

30-Авг-2006 14:31 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alain M.) wrote to
freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net:

  May someone recommend me free virtual environment (qemu? bochs?), with
AM These are the most important links about Qemu:
AM http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/
AM http://www.h7.dion.ne.jp/~qemu-win/
AM and this is the binary for windows (5Mb)
AM http://www.h6.dion.ne.jp/~kazuw/qemu-win/qemu-0.8.2-windows.zip

 Yes, thank you.

AM But it does not say which version o Windows is required  :(
AM I am currently testing under XP

 It does works - installing is easy, runs easy. I download freedos.img
(very outdated image) and have more questions, which are not lighten in
documentation.

1. how to pause output? Outside Windows I may press Pause key - how in QEMU?
   For example, I wish pause at some point, before screen content is
   replaced by next output...

related question:

2. how to scroll (view previous) output? freedos.img outputs too much,
   thus making most its output useless, unless it may be studied. ^Up, ^PgDn
   in main console (^Alt-1) doesn't work.

3. how to copy files to images or create non-empty images (from hard-drive
   directories)? For example, I wish to update kernel.sys or command.com -
   how?

3.1. I was try -fda fat:subdir, but freedos.img doesn't shows (dir a:)
   content of subdir (it think, there are no diskette). -hdb fat:subdir
   also not helps - dir d: shows no files. The more so, dir c: also
   shows no files!

More generic question:

4. how to exchange files inside and outside virtual environment (and/or
   between real media and QEMU image)?

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Re: [Freedos-devel] virtual environment

2006-09-04 Thread Andreas Bollhalder
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Hello Arkady

Arkady V.Belousov wrote:

 1. how to pause output? Outside Windows I may press Pause key - how in QEMU?
For example, I wish pause at some point, before screen content is
replaced by next output...
 
 related question:
The usage of the console (Ctrl-Alt-2) command stop and cont isn't
practical. I'm too unable to use the pause key in QEmu :(

 2. how to scroll (view previous) output? freedos.img outputs too much,
thus making most its output useless, unless it may be studied. ^Up, ^PgDn
in main console (^Alt-1) doesn't work.
The screen provided by QEmu isn't a console screen. It's the output of
the emulated graphic card. Therefor, it doesn't have a buffer to scroll.
Maybe, there is the possibility to reroute the output to the serial
interface and write this into a file or tail tool. Never tried this before.

 3. how to copy files to images or create non-empty images (from hard-drive
directories)? For example, I wish to update kernel.sys or command.com -
how?
See point 4.

 3.1. I was try -fda fat:subdir, but freedos.img doesn't shows (dir a:)
content of subdir (it think, there are no diskette). -hdb fat:subdir
also not helps - dir d: shows no files. The more so, dir c: also
shows no files!
Maybe like -hda vvfat:local_directory/. Do a google for it or check
the manual from QEmu. You need to specify it explicitly when using the
VVFAT.

 More generic question:
 
 4. how to exchange files inside and outside virtual environment (and/or
between real media and QEMU image)?
If you use the RAW disk format, you can use EditDisk / DiskExplorer
(http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA013937/editdisk/index_e.html;). Use
the  vmware plain disk format.

If you use the vmware disk format, you can mount the disk images with
the Virtual Disk Driver
(http://chitchat.at.infoseek.co.jp/vmware/vdk.html;).

The QCOW disk format is currently broken in QEmu for Win32.

You can use different utilities to edit floppy images or ISO images und
use them with QEmu.

You can use the VVFAT option from QEmu to mount a local directory. It's
limited to ~500MB max. and maybe buggy.

I personaly use the MS-Client for DOS and mount a share from my Windows
XP host over the network. But this is a little complicated to setup and
a bit slow. You can see my config files under
http://geodb.org/secB.htm#secB;.

My two cents.

Andreas
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Re: [Freedos-devel] virtual environment

2006-08-30 Thread Alain M.
Hi Arkady,

These are the most important links about Qemu:
http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/
http://www.h7.dion.ne.jp/~qemu-win/

and this is the binary for windows (5Mb)
http://www.h6.dion.ne.jp/~kazuw/qemu-win/qemu-0.8.2-windows.zip

But it does not say which version o Windows is required :(
I am currently testing under XP

Alain

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 Hello Arkady
 
 I can provide you an archive with QEmu and an image if you want. But I
 can not guarantie, that it works under Windows 9x, because I don't have
 a machine to access it.
 
 Andreas
 
 Arkady V.Belousov wrote:
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 Hi!

  May someone recommend me free virtual environment (qemu? bochs?), with
 which I may run FreeDOS under W9x? Me need: URL for download, hints for
 installation and configuration (especially if this is not automated) and
 hints for using (how to prepare FreeDOS to run inside emulator).

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Re: [Freedos-devel] virtual environment

2006-08-30 Thread Blair Campbell
It works in Windows 98.

On 8/30/06, Alain M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Arkady,

 These are the most important links about Qemu:
 http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/
 http://www.h7.dion.ne.jp/~qemu-win/

 and this is the binary for windows (5Mb)
 http://www.h6.dion.ne.jp/~kazuw/qemu-win/qemu-0.8.2-windows.zip

 But it does not say which version o Windows is required :(
 I am currently testing under XP

 Alain

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  Hello Arkady
 
  I can provide you an archive with QEmu and an image if you want. But I
  can not guarantie, that it works under Windows 9x, because I don't have
  a machine to access it.
 
  Andreas
 
  Arkady V.Belousov wrote:
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  Hi!
 
   May someone recommend me free virtual environment (qemu? bochs?),
 with
  which I may run FreeDOS under W9x? Me need: URL for download, hints for
  installation and configuration (especially if this is not automated) and
  hints for using (how to prepare FreeDOS to run inside emulator).
 
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