Re: [Freedos-user] Catch-all Repository for legacy DOS software
Hi all, mateusz (mate...@viste-family.net) wrote: An alternative would be to distribute not the application/program itself, but just a small *.torrent file... ;) I wonder if it would really all that much of a risk if we post links of copyrighted programs (which are already hosted on other websites/FTP servers). For most users, links would be much easier than torrents. I am not familiar with the laws. Would linking to a pirated software be considered a copyright violation or aiding and abetting a crime? Anyhow, I would be very surprised if someone tried to prosecute us for posting a link over a DOS-era program that is hosted somewhere else. Seriously, what are the chances? --- Jim Hall (jh...@freedos.org) wrote: Probably the FreeDOS wiki would be the best place for this, since that's already there and an obvious place to have descriptions of legacy DOS applications. Absolutely. Wikis are very convenient. What about a Software Listings and Reviews section of the wiki? -- Eric Auer (e.a...@jpberlin.de) wrote: Recommending the best could be done without mention of places for downloads, so some sort of review-of- DOS-classics could probably be done by FreeDOSers. Recommending the best was actually the core of my proposal. Yes, even without hosting the programs or linking to them, a simple list of the best programs for each category is very useful. Finding the programs is so easy these days, with Google... Please, let us not this idea die. Who is interested in working on the wiki-based Software Listings and Reviews project? I am willing to cooperate, in the non-games area. I think the first step would be to define the broad categories, and their subcategories. We could get inspiration from other websites (simtel, tucows, etc) Alex -- This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Catch-all Repository for legacy DOS software
Hi, On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 6:23 AM, Alex alxm...@gmail.com wrote: mateusz (mate...@viste-family.net) wrote: An alternative would be to distribute not the application/program itself, but just a small *.torrent file... ;) I wonder if it would really all that much of a risk if we post links of copyrighted programs (which are already hosted on other websites/FTP servers). For most users, links would be much easier than torrents. I'm pretty sure that even links themselves would be considered bad also, and you'd certainly get a few cease and desist emails, at minimum. I wouldn't recommend it. I am not familiar with the laws. Would linking to a pirated software be considered a copyright violation or aiding and abetting a crime? Anyhow, I would be very surprised if someone tried to prosecute us for posting a link over a DOS-era program that is hosted somewhere else. Seriously, what are the chances? The chances are fairly high as there are lots of companies and watchgroups and laws that are against such things. Even though it's obsolete, they will still fight it to death. :-( Eric Auer (e.a...@jpberlin.de) wrote: Recommending the best could be done without mention of places for downloads, so some sort of review-of- DOS-classics could probably be done by FreeDOSers. Recommending the best was actually the core of my proposal. Yes, even without hosting the programs or linking to them, a simple list of the best programs for each category is very useful. Finding the programs is so easy these days, with Google... Finding stuff legally would be more worthwhile and useful, IMO. If something is truly classic, I don't know ... we'd have to probably raise some money (Kickstarter?) to free (or rewrite) it. Keep in mind that I too would love a maintainable online archive of old freeware, but it's not really a popular idea these days. While it's easy to say, Just use FOSS, sometimes there isn't any direct equivalent (and most effort goes into other OSes anyways). Please, let us not this idea die. Who is interested in working on the wiki-based Software Listings and Reviews project? I am willing to cooperate, in the non-games area. I think the first step would be to define the broad categories, and their subcategories. We could get inspiration from other websites (simtel, tucows, etc) I would only suggest to review stuff that is truly classic or (better) easily available (e.g. Amazon, Gog.com, eBay). There already exist a few people on YouTube (Blip.tv, etc.) reviewing old games, but perhaps we could enlist people here to (via email) list their top ten favorite DOS apps (of all time, of last five years, etc). What was DOS most famous for? Visicalc? Lotus 1-2-3? Turbo Pascal? Doom? Desqview? Brief? VBDOS? PKZIP? QModem Pro? Compushow? Fast Tracker 2? Norton Commander? GEM? 4DOS? -- This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Catch-all Repository for legacy DOS software
as usual, we all need more and better freeware, and like the gnu flag says, free thinking... maybe someday someone will invent an operating system that promotes user programming instead of suppresses it. .. eufdp...@yahoo.com eufdp...@yahoo.com eufdp...@yahoo.com eufdp...@yahoo.com eufdp...@yahoo.com ..-- This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Catch-all Repository for legacy DOS software
El 02/04/2012 03:35 p.m., dmccunney escribió: On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Mark Brown eufdp...@yahoo.com wrote: as usual, we all need more and better freeware, and like the gnu flag says, free thinking... maybe someday someone will invent an operating system that promotes user programming instead of suppresses it. blink Linux does. It's open source. You can get the code and modify it, or create complete new code. So does Android (which is based on a Linux kernel.) For that matter, the APIs for Windows and OS/X are [published, and you can create code to run under them. Thousands of people do. Of course, you *do* have to learn to program, and *no* OS can relieve you of that. __ Dennis https://plus.google.com/u/0/105128793974319004519 -- This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user But is easier to learn how to write DOS programs than Windows or Linux programs. DOS is a great OS to introduce programming. A simple programming language as Qbasic or Euphoria give you near total control over your hardware and OS functions. -- -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Marco A. Achury Tel: +58-(212)-6158777 Cel: +58-(414)-3142282 Skype: marcoachury http://www.achury.com.ve -- Better than sec? Nothing is better than sec when it comes to monitoring Big Data applications. Try Boundary one-second resolution app monitoring today. Free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-dev2dev___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Catch-all Repository for legacy DOS software
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 12:58 AM, Marco Achury marcoach...@gmail.com wrote: El 02/04/2012 03:35 p.m., dmccunney escribió: But is easier to learn how to write DOS programs than Windows or Linux programs. DOS is a great OS to introduce programming. A simple programming language as Qbasic or Euphoria give you near total control over your hardware and OS functions. And don't forget Lua. It's very simple and quite powerful at the same time. An excellent language indeed. -- Better than sec? Nothing is better than sec when it comes to monitoring Big Data applications. Try Boundary one-second resolution app monitoring today. Free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-dev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] New topic: makeing a ISO
Hello everyone, I am having a hard time, figureing out how to make a ISO image, of the FreeDos partition on my computer.The intention is to make a image (ISO) I can install to Virtual Box, I did install Freedos, to Virtual Box, using the tutorial posted here some time ago, But I could not figure out how to add files, or programs, after Freedos was installed (to Virtual Box). So I resized my Linux partition, on the HD, created a dedicated Dos partition, installed Freedos 1.1, (runs fine), and it was east enough to copy the programs/files, to the dos partition, from Linux, (linux Mint10) since it reads and mounts the partition just fine. Ok so now I have Freedos, and the programs , 1 game I use, all working well , on a separate partition. So what I want to do is make a copy, bootable ISO, of the partition (HD), that I could install in Virtual Box. So I can run the game, or other dos programs, with out closing or shutting down, and re-booting, with dos. With VB,...It seems easy enough to install a ISO image to virtual box, but where I am hung up is How to make the ISO image ?---Ok, 1 more question, I also installed Freedos to a laptop, (Acer aspire series 150), runs fine, but I can not get the touch pad ,(mouse), or a USB mouse, to work. I tried CTMOUSE, but it says it is not installed ? Do I need to download CTMOUSE , and add it ? I also tried installing the USBUHCI driver, so I could use USBMOUSE, but it is causeing a lockup,... (keyboard,etc) just as the warning says it might. So any suggestions as to what usb /mouse driver would be best ? On this computer (the one I use most,and am using at this time), my table top, a old IBM, I did not have any problem with the mouse working when I installed Freedos, everything works fine, right from the start. Thanks from Garry Thank you and have a Good Day!http://www.artworkandmexico.comandhttp://creativeminds.webege.com/SMF/index.php From Garry -- Better than sec? Nothing is better than sec when it comes to monitoring Big Data applications. Try Boundary one-second resolution app monitoring today. Free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-dev2dev___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] New topic: makeing a ISO
At 04:55 PM 4/2/2012, Garry Ricketson wrote: Ok, 1 more question, I also installed Freedos to a laptop, (Acer aspire series 150), runs fine, but I can not get the touch pad ,(mouse), or a USB mouse, to work. I tried CTMOUSE, but it says it is not installed ? Do I need to download CTMOUSE , and add it ? I also tried installing the USBUHCI driver, so I could use USBMOUSE, but it is causeing a lockup,... (keyboard,etc) just as the warning says it might. So any suggestions as to what usb /mouse driver would be best ? On this computer (the one I use most,and am using at this time), my table top, a old IBM, I did not have any problem with the mouse working when I installed Freedos, everything works fine, right from the start. Chances are that you would need a driver for that touchpad to work and for Cutemouse to detect it in the first place... Ralf -- Better than sec? Nothing is better than sec when it comes to monitoring Big Data applications. Try Boundary one-second resolution app monitoring today. Free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-dev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Catch-all Repository for legacy DOS software
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Marco Achury marcoach...@gmail.com wrote: El 02/04/2012 03:35 p.m., dmccunney escribió: On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Mark Brown eufdp...@yahoo.com wrote: as usual, we all need more and better freeware, and like the gnu flag says, free thinking... maybe someday someone will invent an operating system that promotes user programming instead of suppresses it. blink Linux does. It's open source. You can get the code and modify it, or create complete new code. So does Android (which is based on a Linux kernel.) For that matter, the APIs for Windows and OS/X are published, and you can create code to run under them. Thousands of people do. Of course, you *do* have to learn to program, and *no* OS can relieve you of that. But is easier to learn how to write DOS programs than Windows or Linux programs. DOS is a great OS to introduce programming. A simple programming language as Qbasic or Euphoria give you near total control over your hardware and OS functions. And if you want to progress beyond writing simple programs for DOS, you must still learn another OS or so, *and* one or more other programming languages. You're probably better to learn a language that is cross platform to begin with, like Python or Java, or perhaps go for HTML5, CSS3 and JavaScript, where all you need is a browser to view your results. You probably *aren't* concerned with total control of the hardware, unless you're in the embedded space. The development of programming languages has been toward increased abstraction, and freeing the programmer from being concerned with the hardware. DOS is a lot of fun to play with. If you want to seriously learn to program, where you will be creating software for *other* people to use, it's *not* where you *start*. Marco A. Achury __ Dennis https://plus.google.com/u/0/105128793974319004519 -- Better than sec? Nothing is better than sec when it comes to monitoring Big Data applications. Try Boundary one-second resolution app monitoring today. Free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-dev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Catch-all Repository for legacy DOS software
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 7:44 PM, Alex alxm...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 12:58 AM, Marco Achury marcoach...@gmail.com wrote: El 02/04/2012 03:35 p.m., dmccunney escribió: But is easier to learn how to write DOS programs than Windows or Linux programs. DOS is a great OS to introduce programming. A simple programming language as Qbasic or Euphoria give you near total control over your hardware and OS functions. And don't forget Lua. It's very simple and quite powerful at the same time. An excellent language indeed. But it's specifically intended for embedding within other programs as a script language. (There are an assortment of text editors (like SciTE) that embed Lua in that fashion. You don't write stand-alone apps in it. __ Dennis https://plus.google.com/u/0/105128793974319004519 -- Better than sec? Nothing is better than sec when it comes to monitoring Big Data applications. Try Boundary one-second resolution app monitoring today. Free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-dev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Catch-all Repository for legacy DOS software
At 08:45 PM 4/2/2012, dmccunney wrote: And don't forget Lua. It's very simple and quite powerful at the same time. An excellent language indeed. But it's specifically intended for embedding within other programs as a script language. (There are an assortment of text editors (like SciTE) that embed Lua in that fashion. You don't write stand-alone apps in it. Neither would you do that with Javascript, HPTML5 or CSS3... Also, Lua can run very well as a standalone interpreter, there is even one guy who seems to update a versions including binaries (Lua itself is officially only distributed as plain ANSI C source, though highly *ix centric) specfically for FreeDOS.. Ralf -- Better than sec? Nothing is better than sec when it comes to monitoring Big Data applications. Try Boundary one-second resolution app monitoring today. Free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-dev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
