Re: [Freedos-user] MS-DOS 7.1

[Mateusz Viste]

On 06/12/2020 22:31, Karen Lewellen wrote:

Its terrific, have been using it exclusively for years.


That's cool and all, but in what way exactly is it better than FreeDOS? 
That's a honest question.


BTW, MS-DOS 2.0 appears to be libre (MIT) nowadays - that could also be 
a good fit to some, given how small footprint (much smaller than 
FreeDOS) it has.


Mateusz


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Re: [Freedos-user] Re: Freedos-user Digest, Vol 1877, Issue 3

[Kai Ketelhut]

 
  00= Sound--Lic. Kai Olaf K e t e l h u t sicSent from my Android phone with GMX Mail. Please excuse my brevity.On 06/12/2020, 22:50 Daniel  wrote:

  
   I use FreeDos mainly for programming but slow light gaming on an old 300 MHz k6 hp computer with 256mb ram 
  
  
   
   

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     3. Re:  ?Re:  What do you do with your FreeDos PC? (Kai Ketelhut)
     4. Re: MS-DOS 7.1 (Joao Silva)
 
 
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  Message: 1
  Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2020 20:58:15 +0100
  From: Eric Auer 
  To: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net
  Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] MS-DOS 7.1
  Message-ID: 
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  Hi Joao,
 
  > Last night i was on my crusade to find a solution to my problem GameTools
  > debugger breakpoints and found an ISO for MS-DOS 7.1 CD and Floppy version.
 
  Obviously the China DOS Union "distro" of MS DOS 7.10
  is not a legal way to use MS DOS! Even when it is more
  "convenient" than buying Windows 98 to get MS DOS 7.
 
  Maybe you could tell us what your GameTools debugger breakpoint
  problem was in FreeDOS (and solve it) instead of advertising CDU.
 
  Eric
 
 
 
 
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  Message: 2
  Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2020 19:47:54 +
  From: Joao Silva 
  To: "Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS."
          
  Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] What do you do with your FreeDos PC?
  Message-ID:
          d5rg5tasredzurg7xwalmctofany6xf...@mail.gmail.com>
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
 
  Hi!
 
  Well I haven't done anything with it yet, but it will be for games and some
  programs (a games is a program).
 
  Games,  nice old games, cool games the bring some old memories and time
  well spent.
 
  On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 7:42 PM Jerome Shidel  wrote:
 
  > Hi Jamie!
  >
  > > On Dec 6, 2020, at 2:30 PM, Eric Auer  wrote:
  > >
  > >
  > > Hi and welcome Jamie!
  > >
  > >> Interestingly enough 1.3rc reports the version as 7.10
  > >
  > > That is the level of our MS DOS compatibility, in this
  > > case Windows 98 style DOS with FAT32 support and, if you
  > > load the right drivers, long file name support.
  > >
  > > If you request the OEM number with int 21 function 3000,
  > > BH will be FD like FreeDOS. You also get CX=0 and BL=the
  > > kernel revision (last two digits) from int 21 function 30,
  > > for example 39 for kernel generation 2039.
  > >
  > > As FreeDOS specific extension of the system data area
  > > list of lists (use int 21 function 52 to get a pointer)
  > > you can read internal and setver-able DOS version, the
  > > revision number and a pointer to the version string.
  > >
  > > Note that FreeDOS 1.3 is the version of the distro, not
  > > of the kernel - similar things apply for Linux distros.
  > >
  > > An easy method to get the FreeDOS release string is
  > > int 21 function 33ff, which returns a pointer in DX:AX.
  > > Function 33fc can set the setver DOS version.
  > >
  > > Cheers, Eric
  >
  >
  > Yup, what he said? :-)
  >
  > If for some reason you actually need the release version number,
  > starting with FreeDOS 1.2, under the %DOSDIR% the installer
  > creates a VERSION.FDI file that contains that information.
  >
  > This assumes the user did not delete this file. Also, the
  > boot configuration file (FDAUTO.BAT) sets an environment
  > variable %OS_VERSION%. Which also assumes the
  > user does not remove it.
  >
  > At present, there is no guaranteed method to get the
  > ?distro? release version. For the most part, it doesn?t matter
 

Re: [Freedos-user] Re: modern ssl

[Kai Ketelhut]

 
  00=--Lic. Kai Olaf K e t e l h u t sicSent from my Android phone with GMX Mail. Please excuse my brevity.On 07/12/2020, 00:23 Eric Auer  wrote:

   Hi Jamie,
  
   Just guessing, have you tried links, lynx, w3c, dillo, curl, htget?
  
   https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.2/repos/pkg-html/group-net.html
  
   > found out that wget uses tls1 :/
  
   Which version of wget?
  
   Regards, Eric
  
  
  
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Re: [Freedos-user] Re: Dillo Web Browser

[Kai Ketelhut]

 
  .--Lic. Kai Olaf K e t e l h u t sicSent from my Android phone with GMX Mail. Please excuse my brevity.On 07/12/2020, 00:35 Thomas Mueller  wrote:

  > Hello all,
   
   > I've installed Dillo web browser a few times and it's never even started.� I
   > corrected the path variable in DILLO.BAT but no success.
   
   > Can someone let me know if there are certain "tricks" that need to be
   > performed before I can get it going?
   
   > Thanks,
   
   > Dean.
   
   My experience with Dillo in NetBSD is that it works sometimes and only on the less-complex web sites. Forget online banking!
   
   I believe the DOS version would be similar in functionality. I may have tried it but don't really remember.
   
   Dillo version on NetBSD is 3.0.5nb2 .
   
   It works well on HTML versions of Cross Linux From Scratch manuals, which I view offline.
   
   Tricks to perform to get Dillo going on (Free)DOS would be to use a better browser, but in DOS, you're strapped for good browsers.
   
   I haven't tried in many years because my Ethernet seems to be not supported by any DOS packet driver.
   
   Tom
   
   
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Re: [Freedos-user] Dillo Web Browser

[Thomas Mueller]

> Hello all,

> I've installed Dillo web browser a few times and it's never even started.�  
> I
> corrected the path variable in DILLO.BAT but no success.

> Can someone let me know if there are certain "tricks" that need to be
> performed before I can get it going?

> Thanks,

> Dean.

My experience with Dillo in NetBSD is that it works sometimes and only on the 
less-complex web sites.  Forget online banking!

I believe the DOS version would be similar in functionality.  I may have tried 
it but don't really remember.

Dillo version on NetBSD is 3.0.5nb2 .

It works well on HTML versions of Cross Linux From Scratch manuals, which I 
view offline.

Tricks to perform to get Dillo going on (Free)DOS would be to use a better 
browser, but in DOS, you're strapped for good browsers.

I haven't tried in many years because my Ethernet seems to be not supported by 
any DOS packet driver.

Tom


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Re: [Freedos-user] Dillo Web Browser

[Johnpaul Humphrey]

I have had success with dillo before in a VM. Could you give us more
details? Does it give any information? Does it silently execute? Does
it freeze? It sounds like it is frozen.

On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 1:39 PM Dean Galloway  wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I've installed Dillo web browser a few times and it's never even
> started.  I corrected the path variable in DILLO.BAT but no success.
>
> Can someone let me know if there are certain "tricks" that need to be
> performed before I can get it going?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dean.
>
>
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] modern ssl

[Eric Auer]

Hi Jamie,

Just guessing, have you tried links, lynx, w3c, dillo, curl, htget?

https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.2/repos/pkg-html/group-net.html

> found out that wget uses tls1 :/

Which version of wget?

Regards, Eric



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[Freedos-user] modern ssl

[Jamie Le Tual]

Tried grabbing something from an https url and found out that wget uses
tls1 :/

Is there a more recent build that uses a version of tls that modern web
servers will support?
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Re: [Freedos-user] What do you do with your FreeDos PC?

[Andrew Robins]

I haven't resurrected my FreeDOS projects for a while, but some time ago 
(years?!) I posted about my intent to work on a "FreeDOS 4 Kids" project, 
recycling old, Pentium-era laptops.

I think I discussed the functionality of Ronald Blankendaal's (re DBGL) most 
excellent dos GUI "Access" for providing a simple but effective menu system for 
young hands and eyes to operate - far superior to OpenGEM and many other dos 
GUI's (and I worked through loads that were published open-source online, back 
in the day). In our Toshiba 430CDS, *16mb* RAM, it could boot into FreeDOS 1.1 
in around 11 seconds (!!) and the kids could go straight into "Pepper's 
Adventures in Time", "Loom" and loads of Sierra/LucasArts/etc etc titles. Mind 
- I was using either a CF- or SD-card ATA adapter to get these performances, 
but could fit over 100 classic dos games on a 2GB card, plus the OS. The 
classic games in their native environment (practically) - what's not to love? :)

So at present the 430cds sits waiting "new" parts, along with a collection of 
Rocky II 586RT and 686RT military laptops with clunky - but backlit - rubber 
keys and high-quality outdoor screens. Although I have publicly ruminated about 
these plans here and elsewhere (particularly the Murga Puppy Linux forums - 
vale John Murga), life keeps getting in the way...

The upshot is - to use perfectly serviceable (definitions may vary) laptops for 
classic gaming, original (?) SB16 support etc, I don't think anything really 
compares - not for all the VM and DOSBox environment efforts. And the recent 
resurgence in 16-bit -type games - in spite of all the technological advances - 
points to the value placed in well-written games and importance of substance 
over style. The real bonus for me is giving the global trend in wastrel, 
throwaway consumerism the royally big *thumbs down*

my 2c

 



On Mon, Dec 7, 2020, at 5:47 AM, Joao Silva wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> Well I haven't done anything with it yet, but it will be for games and some 
> programs (a games is a program).
> 
> Games,  nice old games, cool games the bring some old memories and time well 
> spent.
> 
> On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 7:42 PM Jerome Shidel  wrote:
>> Hi Jamie!
>> 
>> > On Dec 6, 2020, at 2:30 PM, Eric Auer  wrote:
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Hi and welcome Jamie!
>> > 
>> >> Interestingly enough 1.3rc reports the version as 7.10
>> > 
>> > That is the level of our MS DOS compatibility, in this
>> > case Windows 98 style DOS with FAT32 support and, if you
>> > load the right drivers, long file name support.
>> > 
>> > If you request the OEM number with int 21 function 3000,
>> > BH will be FD like FreeDOS. You also get CX=0 and BL=the
>> > kernel revision (last two digits) from int 21 function 30,
>> > for example 39 for kernel generation 2039.
>> > 
>> > As FreeDOS specific extension of the system data area
>> > list of lists (use int 21 function 52 to get a pointer)
>> > you can read internal and setver-able DOS version, the
>> > revision number and a pointer to the version string.
>> > 
>> > Note that FreeDOS 1.3 is the version of the distro, not
>> > of the kernel - similar things apply for Linux distros.
>> > 
>> > An easy method to get the FreeDOS release string is
>> > int 21 function 33ff, which returns a pointer in DX:AX.
>> > Function 33fc can set the setver DOS version.
>> > 
>> > Cheers, Eric
>> 
>> 
>> Yup, what he said… :-)
>> 
>> If for some reason you actually need the release version number,
>> starting with FreeDOS 1.2, under the %DOSDIR% the installer 
>> creates a VERSION.FDI file that contains that information.
>> 
>> This assumes the user did not delete this file. Also, the 
>> boot configuration file (FDAUTO.BAT) sets an environment
>> variable %OS_VERSION%. Which also assumes the 
>> user does not remove it.
>> 
>> At present, there is no guaranteed method to get the 
>> “distro” release version. For the most part, it doesn’t matter
>> all that much what “distro” release a user is running anyway.
>> 
>> :-)
>> 
>> Jerome
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos-user Digest, Vol 1877, Issue 3

[Daniel]

I use FreeDos mainly for programming but slow light gaming on an old 300
MHz k6 hp computer with 256mb ram

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> Hi Joao,
>
> > Last night i was on my crusade to find a solution to my problem GameTools
> > debugger breakpoints and found an ISO for MS-DOS 7.1 CD and Floppy
> version.
>
> Obviously the China DOS Union "distro" of MS DOS 7.10
> is not a legal way to use MS DOS! Even when it is more
> "convenient" than buying Windows 98 to get MS DOS 7.
>
> Maybe you could tell us what your GameTools debugger breakpoint
> problem was in FreeDOS (and solve it) instead of advertising CDU.
>
> Eric
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2020 19:47:54 +
> From: Joao Silva 
> To: "Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS."
> 
> Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] What do you do with your FreeDos PC?
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
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> Hi!
>
> Well I haven't done anything with it yet, but it will be for games and some
> programs (a games is a program).
>
> Games,  nice old games, cool games the bring some old memories and time
> well spent.
>
> On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 7:42 PM Jerome Shidel  wrote:
>
> > Hi Jamie!
> >
> > > On Dec 6, 2020, at 2:30 PM, Eric Auer  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi and welcome Jamie!
> > >
> > >> Interestingly enough 1.3rc reports the version as 7.10
> > >
> > > That is the level of our MS DOS compatibility, in this
> > > case Windows 98 style DOS with FAT32 support and, if you
> > > load the right drivers, long file name support.
> > >
> > > If you request the OEM number with int 21 function 3000,
> > > BH will be FD like FreeDOS. You also get CX=0 and BL=the
> > > kernel revision (last two digits) from int 21 function 30,
> > > for example 39 for kernel generation 2039.
> > >
> > > As FreeDOS specific extension of the system data area
> > > list of lists (use int 21 function 52 to get a pointer)
> > > you can read internal and setver-able DOS version, the
> > > revision number and a pointer to the version string.
> > >
> > > Note that FreeDOS 1.3 is the version of the distro, not
> > > of the kernel - similar things apply for Linux distros.
> > >
> > > An easy method to get the FreeDOS release string is
> > > int 21 function 33ff, which returns a pointer in DX:AX.
> > > Function 33fc can set the setver DOS version.
> > >
> > > Cheers, Eric
> >
> >
> > Yup, what he said? :-)
> >
> > If for some reason you actually need the release version number,
> > starting with FreeDOS 1.2, under the %DOSDIR% the installer
> > creates a VERSION.FDI file that contains that information.
> >
> > This assumes the user did not delete this file. Also, the
> > boot configuration file (FDAUTO.BAT) sets an environment
> > variable %OS_VERSION%. Which also assumes the
> > user does not remove it.
> >
> > At present, there is no guaranteed method to get the
> > ?distro? release version. For the most part, it doesn?t matter
> > all that much what ?distro? release a user is running anyway.
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > Jerome
> >
> >
> >
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[Freedos-user] Dillo Web Browser

[Dean Galloway]

Hello all,

I've installed Dillo web browser a few times and it's never even 
started.  I corrected the path variable in DILLO.BAT but no success.


Can someone let me know if there are certain "tricks" that need to be 
performed before I can get it going?


Thanks,

Dean.



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Re: [Freedos-user] MS-DOS 7.1

[Karen Lewellen]

Its terrific, have been using it exclusively for years.
Karen





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Re: [Freedos-user] emacs 26

[Jamie Le Tual]

*slaps forehead*

Thank you :)

On Sun, 6 Dec 2020 at 15:39, Eric Auer  wrote:

>
> > The delorie site seems to be down and I was looking for a copy of real
> > emacs for dos. Does anyone have a copy of *em2602ab.zip* they can point
> me
> > to?
>
> A quick search for "mirror em2602ab.zip" reveals
>
> http://mirrors.fe.up.pt/pub/djgpp/current/v2gnu/ ;-)
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Re: [Freedos-user] Re: emacs 26

[Kai Ketelhut]

 
  3.11--Lic. Kai Olaf K e t e l h u t sicSent from my Android phone with GMX Mail. Please excuse my brevity.On 06/12/2020, 21:38 Eric Auer  wrote:

   > The delorie site seems to be down and I was looking for a copy of real
   > emacs for dos. Does anyone have a copy of *em2602ab.zip* they can point me
   > to?
  
   A quick search for "mirror em2602ab.zip" reveals
  
   http://mirrors.fe.up.pt/pub/djgpp/current/v2gnu/ ;-)
  
  
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Re: [Freedos-user] emacs 26

[Eric Auer]

> The delorie site seems to be down and I was looking for a copy of real
> emacs for dos. Does anyone have a copy of *em2602ab.zip* they can point me
> to?

A quick search for "mirror em2602ab.zip" reveals

http://mirrors.fe.up.pt/pub/djgpp/current/v2gnu/ ;-)


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[Freedos-user] emacs 26

[Jamie Le Tual]

The delorie site seems to be down and I was looking for a copy of real
emacs for dos. Does anyone have a copy of *em2602ab.zip* they can point me
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Re: [Freedos-user] Re: MS-DOS 7.1

[Kai Ketelhut]

 
  xp 3.11--Lic. Kai Olaf K e t e l h u t sicSent from my Android phone with GMX Mail. Please excuse my brevity.On 06/12/2020, 21:09 Joao Silva  wrote:

  
   
Sorry, it wasn't my intent to advertise.
   
   

   
   
 GameTools can't find the INT to hook on because its running on a VM environment.
   
   

   
  
  
  
   
On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 8:00 PM Eric Auer  wrote:

   
   
 Hi Joao,

 > Last night i was on my crusade to find a solution to my problem GameTools
 > debugger breakpoints and found an ISO for MS-DOS 7.1 CD and Floppy version.

 Obviously the China DOS Union "distro" of MS DOS 7.10
 is not a legal way to use MS DOS! Even when it is more
 "convenient" than buying Windows 98 to get MS DOS 7.

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Re: [Freedos-user] MS-DOS 7.1

[Joao Silva]

Sorry, it wasn't my intent to advertise.

GameTools can't find the INT to hook on because its running on a VM
environment.


On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 8:00 PM Eric Auer  wrote:

>
> Hi Joao,
>
> > Last night i was on my crusade to find a solution to my problem GameTools
> > debugger breakpoints and found an ISO for MS-DOS 7.1 CD and Floppy
> version.
>
> Obviously the China DOS Union "distro" of MS DOS 7.10
> is not a legal way to use MS DOS! Even when it is more
> "convenient" than buying Windows 98 to get MS DOS 7.
>
> Maybe you could tell us what your GameTools debugger breakpoint
> problem was in FreeDOS (and solve it) instead of advertising CDU.
>
> Eric
>
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] Re: What do you do with your FreeDos PC?

[Kai Ketelhut]

 
  ty_ty by ty::ty with EE2 google glass for ml by windows 7 by 5 14 floppy by MIL-STD-810 in apendix of dos 1.0--Lic. Kai Olaf K e t e l h u t sicSent from my Android phone with GMX Mail. Please excuse my brevity.On 06/12/2020, 20:41 Jerome Shidel  wrote:

  Hi Jamie!
   
   > On Dec 6, 2020, at 2:30 PM, Eric Auer  wrote:
   > 
   > 
   > Hi and welcome Jamie!
   > 
   >> Interestingly enough 1.3rc reports the version as 7.10
   > 
   > That is the level of our MS DOS compatibility, in this
   > case Windows 98 style DOS with FAT32 support and, if you
   > load the right drivers, long file name support.
   > 
   > If you request the OEM number with int 21 function 3000,
   > BH will be FD like FreeDOS. You also get CX=0 and BL=the
   > kernel revision (last two digits) from int 21 function 30,
   > for example 39 for kernel generation 2039.
   > 
   > As FreeDOS specific extension of the system data area
   > list of lists (use int 21 function 52 to get a pointer)
   > you can read internal and setver-able DOS version, the
   > revision number and a pointer to the version string.
   > 
   > Note that FreeDOS 1.3 is the version of the distro, not
   > of the kernel - similar things apply for Linux distros.
   > 
   > An easy method to get the FreeDOS release string is
   > int 21 function 33ff, which returns a pointer in DX:AX.
   > Function 33fc can set the setver DOS version.
   > 
   > Cheers, Eric
   
   
   Yup, what he said… :-)
   
   If for some reason you actually need the release version number,
   starting with FreeDOS 1.2, under the %DOSDIR% the installer 
   creates a VERSION.FDI file that contains that information.
   
   This assumes the user did not delete this file. Also, the 
   boot configuration file (FDAUTO.BAT) sets an environment
   variable %OS_VERSION%. Which also assumes the 
   user does not remove it.
   
   At present, there is no guaranteed method to get the 
   “distro” release version. For the most part, it doesn’t matter
   all that much what “distro” release a user is running anyway.
   
   :-)
   
   Jerome
   
   
   
   
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Re: [Freedos-user] What do you do with your FreeDos PC?

[Joao Silva]

Hi!

Well I haven't done anything with it yet, but it will be for games and some
programs (a games is a program).

Games,  nice old games, cool games the bring some old memories and time
well spent.

On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 7:42 PM Jerome Shidel  wrote:

> Hi Jamie!
>
> > On Dec 6, 2020, at 2:30 PM, Eric Auer  wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi and welcome Jamie!
> >
> >> Interestingly enough 1.3rc reports the version as 7.10
> >
> > That is the level of our MS DOS compatibility, in this
> > case Windows 98 style DOS with FAT32 support and, if you
> > load the right drivers, long file name support.
> >
> > If you request the OEM number with int 21 function 3000,
> > BH will be FD like FreeDOS. You also get CX=0 and BL=the
> > kernel revision (last two digits) from int 21 function 30,
> > for example 39 for kernel generation 2039.
> >
> > As FreeDOS specific extension of the system data area
> > list of lists (use int 21 function 52 to get a pointer)
> > you can read internal and setver-able DOS version, the
> > revision number and a pointer to the version string.
> >
> > Note that FreeDOS 1.3 is the version of the distro, not
> > of the kernel - similar things apply for Linux distros.
> >
> > An easy method to get the FreeDOS release string is
> > int 21 function 33ff, which returns a pointer in DX:AX.
> > Function 33fc can set the setver DOS version.
> >
> > Cheers, Eric
>
>
> Yup, what he said… :-)
>
> If for some reason you actually need the release version number,
> starting with FreeDOS 1.2, under the %DOSDIR% the installer
> creates a VERSION.FDI file that contains that information.
>
> This assumes the user did not delete this file. Also, the
> boot configuration file (FDAUTO.BAT) sets an environment
> variable %OS_VERSION%. Which also assumes the
> user does not remove it.
>
> At present, there is no guaranteed method to get the
> “distro” release version. For the most part, it doesn’t matter
> all that much what “distro” release a user is running anyway.
>
> :-)
>
> Jerome
>
>
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] MS-DOS 7.1

[Eric Auer]

Hi Joao,

> Last night i was on my crusade to find a solution to my problem GameTools
> debugger breakpoints and found an ISO for MS-DOS 7.1 CD and Floppy version.

Obviously the China DOS Union "distro" of MS DOS 7.10
is not a legal way to use MS DOS! Even when it is more
"convenient" than buying Windows 98 to get MS DOS 7.

Maybe you could tell us what your GameTools debugger breakpoint
problem was in FreeDOS (and solve it) instead of advertising CDU.

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Re: [Freedos-user] What do you do with your FreeDos PC?

[Jerome Shidel]

Hi Jamie!

> On Dec 6, 2020, at 2:30 PM, Eric Auer  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi and welcome Jamie!
> 
>> Interestingly enough 1.3rc reports the version as 7.10
> 
> That is the level of our MS DOS compatibility, in this
> case Windows 98 style DOS with FAT32 support and, if you
> load the right drivers, long file name support.
> 
> If you request the OEM number with int 21 function 3000,
> BH will be FD like FreeDOS. You also get CX=0 and BL=the
> kernel revision (last two digits) from int 21 function 30,
> for example 39 for kernel generation 2039.
> 
> As FreeDOS specific extension of the system data area
> list of lists (use int 21 function 52 to get a pointer)
> you can read internal and setver-able DOS version, the
> revision number and a pointer to the version string.
> 
> Note that FreeDOS 1.3 is the version of the distro, not
> of the kernel - similar things apply for Linux distros.
> 
> An easy method to get the FreeDOS release string is
> int 21 function 33ff, which returns a pointer in DX:AX.
> Function 33fc can set the setver DOS version.
> 
> Cheers, Eric


Yup, what he said… :-)

If for some reason you actually need the release version number,
starting with FreeDOS 1.2, under the %DOSDIR% the installer 
creates a VERSION.FDI file that contains that information.

This assumes the user did not delete this file. Also, the 
boot configuration file (FDAUTO.BAT) sets an environment
variable %OS_VERSION%. Which also assumes the 
user does not remove it.

At present, there is no guaranteed method to get the 
“distro” release version. For the most part, it doesn’t matter
all that much what “distro” release a user is running anyway.

:-)

Jerome




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[Freedos-user] MS-DOS 7.1

[Joao Silva]

Hello.

Last night i was on my crusade to find a solution to my problem GameTools
debugger breakpoints and found an ISO for
MS-DOS 7.1 CD and Floppy version.

I left the url down below.

Link 

Thank you.
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Re: [Freedos-user] What do you do with your FreeDos PC?

[Eric Auer]

Hi and welcome Jamie!

> Interestingly enough 1.3rc reports the version as 7.10

That is the level of our MS DOS compatibility, in this
case Windows 98 style DOS with FAT32 support and, if you
load the right drivers, long file name support.

If you request the OEM number with int 21 function 3000,
BH will be FD like FreeDOS. You also get CX=0 and BL=the
kernel revision (last two digits) from int 21 function 30,
for example 39 for kernel generation 2039.

As FreeDOS specific extension of the system data area
list of lists (use int 21 function 52 to get a pointer)
you can read internal and setver-able DOS version, the
revision number and a pointer to the version string.

Note that FreeDOS 1.3 is the version of the distro, not
of the kernel - similar things apply for Linux distros.

An easy method to get the FreeDOS release string is
int 21 function 33ff, which returns a pointer in DX:AX.
Function 33fc can set the setver DOS version.

Cheers, Eric



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Re: [Freedos-user] What do you do with your FreeDos PC?

[Jamie Le Tual]

I'm new to this party as well. I'm using it to learn x86 assembler and DOS
function calls.
just wrote a program in assembler that outputs the version number as
reported by dos, all in a slim 87 bytes.
Interestingly enough 1.3rc reports the version as 7.10

Still in the midst of setting up a fully equipped development environment
to my liking ;)


On Sun, 6 Dec 2020 at 11:25, Johnpaul Humphrey  wrote:

> I multiboot FreeDOS on my modern laptop alongside linux, Plan 9, and BSD.
> It is by far the fastest OS I have used. What do I do? I run Ability
> Office (No cost but non-free :( ), OpenGEM, and edit, or elvis when I
> am needing more power. I do a little programming. I also boot into DOS
> when I need a distraction free environment (non-multitasking.) With
> GEM, I have to boot DOS in safe mode, because otherwise I will get a
> blank white screen. I am new to DOS, but I am into old software, so it
> is already taken an important place on my hard-disk.
> I haven't set it up with interent, it is sort of my "digital
> monastary" if you know what I mean.
>
> On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 3:27 AM Dean Galloway 
> wrote:
> >
> > I set my Freedos machine up as a GOPHER client.
> >
> > I know a lot of folks use virtual machines for Freedos, but I'm kind of
> > partial to the physical device sitting in the corner.
> >
> > I've had limited success with web browsing and am yet to find an email
> > client that supports IMAP.
> >
> > Never was much of a game player.
> >
> > On 12/4/2020 11:01 PM, Bryan Kilgallin wrote:
> > > G'day Marv:
> > >> I know I'm late to the FreeDos party, but it would help me and maybe
> > >> other newcomers to know what you guys do with your FreeDos PCs.
> > >
> > > At the moment, nothing; I'm waiting for a sore foot to heal before
> > > using an old Polar heart-monitor.
> > >
> > >> I was thinking of utility type things that are easier or more quickly
> > >> done in DOS, but I'm wide open to any ideas.
> > > Apart from that old application, all I ever did was play Hangman!
> >
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Re: [Freedos-user] What do you do with your FreeDos PC?

[Johnpaul Humphrey]

I multiboot FreeDOS on my modern laptop alongside linux, Plan 9, and BSD.
It is by far the fastest OS I have used. What do I do? I run Ability
Office (No cost but non-free :( ), OpenGEM, and edit, or elvis when I
am needing more power. I do a little programming. I also boot into DOS
when I need a distraction free environment (non-multitasking.) With
GEM, I have to boot DOS in safe mode, because otherwise I will get a
blank white screen. I am new to DOS, but I am into old software, so it
is already taken an important place on my hard-disk.
I haven't set it up with interent, it is sort of my "digital
monastary" if you know what I mean.

On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 3:27 AM Dean Galloway  wrote:
>
> I set my Freedos machine up as a GOPHER client.
>
> I know a lot of folks use virtual machines for Freedos, but I'm kind of
> partial to the physical device sitting in the corner.
>
> I've had limited success with web browsing and am yet to find an email
> client that supports IMAP.
>
> Never was much of a game player.
>
> On 12/4/2020 11:01 PM, Bryan Kilgallin wrote:
> > G'day Marv:
> >> I know I'm late to the FreeDos party, but it would help me and maybe
> >> other newcomers to know what you guys do with your FreeDos PCs.
> >
> > At the moment, nothing; I'm waiting for a sore foot to heal before
> > using an old Polar heart-monitor.
> >
> >> I was thinking of utility type things that are easier or more quickly
> >> done in DOS, but I'm wide open to any ideas.
> > Apart from that old application, all I ever did was play Hangman!
>
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Re: [Freedos-user] What do you do with your FreeDos PC?

[Dean Galloway]

I set my Freedos machine up as a GOPHER client.

I know a lot of folks use virtual machines for Freedos, but I'm kind of 
partial to the physical device sitting in the corner.


I've had limited success with web browsing and am yet to find an email 
client that supports IMAP.


Never was much of a game player.

On 12/4/2020 11:01 PM, Bryan Kilgallin wrote:

G'day Marv:
I know I'm late to the FreeDos party, but it would help me and maybe 
other newcomers to know what you guys do with your FreeDos PCs.


At the moment, nothing; I'm waiting for a sore foot to heal before 
using an old Polar heart-monitor.


I was thinking of utility type things that are easier or more quickly 
done in DOS, but I'm wide open to any ideas.

Apart from that old application, all I ever did was play Hangman!



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