Re: Looking for an editor for FreeRADIUS documentation

2010-06-15 Thread Alan DeKok
James wrote:
 I did these:
 proxy.rst
 processing_users_file.rst
 cisco.rst
 variables.rst
 configurable_failover.rst
 
 There might be formatting errors but I think it is a good first pass.

  OK.  I double-checked them, and put them into the git v2.1.x branch.

  The suse/redhat/debian package scripts just install all of the files
in the doc/ directory.  So I think it's safe to fix the docs now.

  Alan DeKok.
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Re: Looking for an editor for FreeRADIUS documentation

2010-06-13 Thread Alan DeKok
James wrote:
 Is somebody already working on making .rst files because there are
 already some?

  Peter Nixon did a few in the master branch.  I don't think any more
changes have been made since then.

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Re: Looking for an editor for FreeRADIUS documentation

2010-06-13 Thread James

 On 06/13/10 03:11, Alan DeKok wrote:

James wrote:

Is somebody already working on making .rst files because there are
already some?

   Peter Nixon did a few in the master branch.  I don't think any more
changes have been made since then.

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I'll send you proxy.rst off list so there are no attachments on list.
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Re: Looking for an editor for FreeRADIUS documentation

2010-06-13 Thread James

 On 06/13/10 03:11, Alan DeKok wrote:

James wrote:

Is somebody already working on making .rst files because there are
already some?

   Peter Nixon did a few in the master branch.  I don't think any more
changes have been made since then.

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I did these:
proxy.rst
processing_users_file.rst
cisco.rst
variables.rst
configurable_failover.rst

There might be formatting errors but I think it is a good first pass.
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Re: Looking for an editor for FreeRADIUS documentation

2010-06-12 Thread James

 On 06/10/10 15:59, Alan DeKok wrote:

bjloc...@lockie.ca wrote:

What file format is the documentation in and roughly how big is it?

   Text.  Not a lot, but organized fairly poorly.


I'm a technical writer and I'm interested.

   Try: http://freeradius.org/doc/community.html

   Or, just convert the existing txt to rst, and send them as an
attachment to the mailing list.

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Is somebody already working on making .rst files because there are 
already some?

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RE: Looking for an editor for FreeRADIUS documentation

2010-06-11 Thread Ramm-Ericson, Johannes
Hi,

Peter Nixon wrote:
Hi Johannes

Please feel free to take the lead. While you may of course use the RST viewer 
built into github, its better if you install Sphinx 
(http://sphinx.pocoo.org/) as you will then be able to build the RST into 
html format locally on your machine with:

make html

Additionally, if you install rst2pdf you will be able to use:

make pdf

OK, thanks for the info and the advice. I'll go with that methodology. Sorry 
about
being quiet lately - I've been extremely busy at work and in my personal life 
but in
about 2-3 weeks time I'll finally have time to start digging in.

Also, as Alan noted earlier - once I decide on a file I want to check out and 
convert
I'll send a mail to the list and let you know.

Last note; nice to see the discussions about Wiki editing. I'd like to join in 
there
as well but I'll wait with that until after the RST conversions. :)

Have a great weekend,
J.

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Re: Looking for an editor for FreeRADIUS documentation

2010-06-11 Thread Peter Nixon
On Fri 11 Jun 2010, Ramm-Ericson, Johannes wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Peter Nixon wrote:
 Hi Johannes
 
 Please feel free to take the lead. While you may of course use the RST
 viewer built into github, its better if you install Sphinx
 (http://sphinx.pocoo.org/) as you will then be able to build the RST
 into html format locally on your machine with:
 
 make html
 
 Additionally, if you install rst2pdf you will be able to use:
 
 make pdf
 
 OK, thanks for the info and the advice. I'll go with that methodology.
 Sorry about being quiet lately - I've been extremely busy at work and in
 my personal life but in about 2-3 weeks time I'll finally have time to
 start digging in.
 
 Also, as Alan noted earlier - once I decide on a file I want to check out
 and convert I'll send a mail to the list and let you know.

OK. In that case suggest that you dont let large amounts of time (days) pass 
between local work in your clone and pushes upstream to us so that no-one 
duplicates work.

Regards

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Re: Looking for an editor for FreeRADIUS documentation

2010-06-11 Thread Alan DeKok
Josip Rodin wrote:
 In the meantime I've done some work fixing the Wiki. I invite everyone
 watching to have a look, it's now... no longer stuck in 2007. :)

  It looks quite a bit better, thanks.

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Re: Looking for an editor for FreeRADIUS documentation

2010-06-10 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 03:01:47PM +0200, Alan DeKok wrote:
 Fajar A. Nugraha wrote:
  The enthusiasm seems big enough. So how would this work?
 
   http://freeradius.org/doc/community.html

It doesn't seem to be particularly enthusiastic any more. But that's what
happens in the real world :) A non-trivial documentation format is
a stringent documentation format. And also obviously humans suck :)

In the meantime I've done some work fixing the Wiki. I invite everyone
watching to have a look, it's now... no longer stuck in 2007. :)

If you don't have an account or can't be bothered to edit, just shout
here...

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Re: Looking for an editor for FreeRADIUS documentation

2010-06-10 Thread Peter Nixon
On Tue 18 May 2010, Alan DeKok wrote:
 Nyamul Hassan wrote:
  Not meaning any disrespect to the paid offer, you could also
  reconsider to put up the current documentation in a Wiki style
  webpage, and from there everyone can work on the text that they think
  needs reworking.
 
   We already have a Wiki.  Few people edit it.  We already have a
 publicly available doc directory.  Few people submit changes.
 
   Putting the existing docs into a Wiki won't magically make people
 submit changes.
 
   We're looking for an editor.  All we want is someone who can organize
 and format the existing documentation.  There is no need for in depth
 knowledge of RADIUS.  There is no need for to write *new* documentation.
 
   That is work which is normally seen as not fun.  But it's needed.
 Therefore, the offer to pay for services rendered.

Yes. I'll second Alan on this. It was my idea to setup the wiki, and I spent 
a LOT of time on it for a year or so, but have unfortunately not seen as much 
input from the community as we will have liked. (Although there are a notable 
few people who have done some work at various times... You know who your 
are..Thanks.)

If there is only going to be a small group of people editing the docs, git 
and RST work much better than a wiki, and save maintaing both mediawiki and 
an SQL server :-)

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Re: Looking for an editor for FreeRADIUS documentation

2010-06-10 Thread bjlockie
 On Tue 18 May 2010, Alan DeKok wrote:
 Nyamul Hassan wrote:
  Not meaning any disrespect to the paid offer, you could also
  reconsider to put up the current documentation in a Wiki style
  webpage, and from there everyone can work on the text that they think
  needs reworking.

   We already have a Wiki.  Few people edit it.  We already have a
 publicly available doc directory.  Few people submit changes.

   Putting the existing docs into a Wiki won't magically make people
 submit changes.

   We're looking for an editor.  All we want is someone who can organize
 and format the existing documentation.  There is no need for in depth
 knowledge of RADIUS.  There is no need for to write *new* documentation.

   That is work which is normally seen as not fun.  But it's needed.
 Therefore, the offer to pay for services rendered.

 Yes. I'll second Alan on this. It was my idea to setup the wiki, and I
 spent
 a LOT of time on it for a year or so, but have unfortunately not seen as
 much
 input from the community as we will have liked. (Although there are a
 notable
 few people who have done some work at various times... You know who your
 are..Thanks.)

 If there is only going to be a small group of people editing the docs, git
 and RST work much better than a wiki, and save maintaing both mediawiki
 and
 an SQL server :-)

What file format is the documentation in and roughly how big is it?
I'm a technical writer and I'm interested.


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Re: Looking for an editor for FreeRADIUS documentation

2010-06-10 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 09:07:32PM +0300, Peter Nixon wrote:
We already have a Wiki.  Few people edit it.  We already have a
  publicly available doc directory.  Few people submit changes.
 
 Yes. I'll second Alan on this. It was my idea to setup the wiki, and I
 spent a LOT of time on it for a year or so, but have unfortunately not
 seen as much input from the community as we will have liked.
 
 If there is only going to be a small group of people editing the docs, git
 and RST work much better than a wiki, and save maintaing both mediawiki
 and an SQL server :-)

IMHO you saw little input because you had a wiki that was rendered
practically dead for three years. There was nothing there even just to
tell newbies that there *is* a procedure to get an account, let alone
anything that would actually entice them to edit.

Similarly, keeping docs in another, even less trivially accessible format,
will not alleviate this problem - it stands to reason that it can only
make it worse. Paying people to overcome that problem could make things even.

Yet, it will be that much harder to get an account and submit changes
because it will require a little bit more toolset learning for users and
a little bit more interaction from the admins.

That's why I mentioned that ConfirmAccount mediawiki extension - it will
reduce the amount of bother for the admins, while still allowing the users
to use minimal necessary skills to do their edits.

Obviously I have nothing against people also working on documentation in
git, whether paid or not - the rule in documentation is that duplication
is not something frowned upon by default (unlike with software).

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Re: Looking for an editor for FreeRADIUS documentation

2010-06-10 Thread Arran Cudbard-Bell

On Jun 10, 2010, at 11:38 AM, Josip Rodin wrote:

 On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 09:07:32PM +0300, Peter Nixon wrote:
  We already have a Wiki.  Few people edit it.  We already have a
 publicly available doc directory.  Few people submit changes.
 
 Yes. I'll second Alan on this. It was my idea to setup the wiki, and I
 spent a LOT of time on it for a year or so, but have unfortunately not
 seen as much input from the community as we will have liked.
 
 If there is only going to be a small group of people editing the docs, git
 and RST work much better than a wiki, and save maintaing both mediawiki
 and an SQL server :-)
 
 IMHO you saw little input because you had a wiki that was rendered
 practically dead for three years. There was nothing there even just to
 tell newbies that there *is* a procedure to get an account, let alone
 anything that would actually entice them to edit.
 
 Similarly, keeping docs in another, even less trivially accessible format,
 will not alleviate this problem - it stands to reason that it can only
 make it worse. Paying people to overcome that problem could make things even.
 
 Yet, it will be that much harder to get an account and submit changes
 because it will require a little bit more toolset learning for users and
 a little bit more interaction from the admins.
 
 That's why I mentioned that ConfirmAccount mediawiki extension - it will
 reduce the amount of bother for the admins, while still allowing the users
 to use minimal necessary skills to do their edits.
 
 Obviously I have nothing against people also working on documentation in
 git, whether paid or not - the rule in documentation is that duplication
 is not something frowned upon by default (unlike with software).

My idea was to install an extension to the wiki that allowed rendering of RST. 
The documentation would be kept up to date on the wiki, and at official release 
time those pages would be pulled in from the wiki and bundled with the rest of 
FreeRADIUS.

Advantaged are:
- Easy to edit
- No learning curve for GIT
- Still maintains blame information
- Instant feedback with the preview function when testing out syntax
- One source for all documentation
- Documentation available without downloading package or src bundle.

People are far more likely to contribute if the barrier to entry is low. The 
reason for the wikis zombie like status is, as other people have stated that 
there is no official procedure to request an account, and no automated account 
creation. I remember the issues with spam, so auto account creation is out. 
Maybe have a a registration mailing list where people can pick requests off and 
create the accounts manually?

The barrier to get an account has to be sufficiently high that spammers won't 
go through the hassle and sufficiently low that people will still contribute.

-Arran



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Re: Looking for an editor for FreeRADIUS documentation

2010-06-10 Thread Peter Nixon
  It looks like a good set of volunteers wanting to help.  My suggestion
  is to convert the docs to Restructured text:
  
  http://docutils.sourceforge.net/rst.html
 
 Looks very straight forward. :)
 
 I'll be creating a github account for myself later this evening and will
 start getting my hands dirty after that.
 
 Best Regards,
 Johannes R-E
 
 PS. By the way; for the sake of not duplicating effort does Peter Nixon
 want to lead the way on this or is it just a simple free-for-all?

Hi Johannes

Please feel free to take the lead. While you may of course use the RST viewer 
built into github, its better if you install Sphinx 
(http://sphinx.pocoo.org/) as you will then be able to build the RST into 
html format locally on your machine with:

make html

Additionally, if you install rst2pdf you will be able to use:

make pdf

I would do the work in this order:

1) checkout freeradius

2) Rename existing files in doc dir to have a .rst extension (eg. git mv  
proxy proxy.rst)

3) make html (in doc dir)

4) Fix any warnings output by sphinx

5) make html

6) Check what the output looks like (eg. firefox _build/html/index.html) and 
clean up anything that needs it.

7) Repeat for the next file.


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Re: Looking for an editor for FreeRADIUS documentation

2010-06-10 Thread Arran Cudbard-Bell

On Jun 10, 2010, at 12:11 PM, Josip Rodin wrote:

 On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:59:57AM -0700, Arran Cudbard-Bell wrote:
 That's why I mentioned that ConfirmAccount mediawiki extension - it will
 reduce the amount of bother for the admins, while still allowing the users
 to use minimal necessary skills to do their edits.
 
 My idea was to install an extension to the wiki that allowed rendering of
 RST. The documentation would be kept up to date on the wiki, and at
 official release time those pages would be pulled in from the wiki and
 bundled with the rest of FreeRADIUS.
 
 But does that kind of a software actually exist?
 

Yes: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:RstToHtml

...

 
 The barrier to get an account has to be sufficiently high that spammers
 won't go through the hassle and sufficiently low that people will still
 contribute.
 
 Once again, that's exactly what Extension:ConfirmAccount tries to do.
 We don't need to reinvent anything, just get it installed and see if
 it works.

Well i'm up for a trial re-opening, but i'm not sure about Peter Nixon and Alan 
DeKok.

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Re: Looking for an editor for FreeRADIUS documentation

2010-06-10 Thread Alan DeKok
Arran Cudbard-Bell wrote:
 My idea was to install an extension to the wiki that allowed rendering of 
 RST. The documentation would be kept up to date on the wiki, and at official 
 release time those pages would be pulled in from the wiki and bundled with 
 the rest of FreeRADIUS.

  Ok.  The RST format looks a lot easier than the Wiki format.

 Advantaged are:
 - Easy to edit
 - No learning curve for GIT
 - Still maintains blame information
 - Instant feedback with the preview function when testing out syntax
 - One source for all documentation
 - Documentation available without downloading package or src bundle.
 
 People are far more likely to contribute if the barrier to entry is low. The 
 reason for the wikis zombie like status is, as other people have stated that 
 there is no official procedure to request an account, and no automated 
 account creation. I remember the issues with spam, so auto account creation 
 is out. Maybe have a a registration mailing list where people can pick 
 requests off and create the accounts manually?

  Yes.

 The barrier to get an account has to be sufficiently high that spammers won't 
 go through the hassle and sufficiently low that people will still contribute.

  We're also not in the business of account management.  Someone like
github.com is.  If they had a Wiki that was RST *and* backed by git, it
would be a clear winner.  But people have been asking since 2008, and
it's still not ready.

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Re: Looking for an editor for FreeRADIUS documentation

2010-06-10 Thread Alan DeKok
bjloc...@lockie.ca wrote:
 What file format is the documentation in and roughly how big is it?

  Text.  Not a lot, but organized fairly poorly.

 I'm a technical writer and I'm interested.

  Try: http://freeradius.org/doc/community.html

  Or, just convert the existing txt to rst, and send them as an
attachment to the mailing list.

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Re: Looking for an editor for FreeRADIUS documentation

2010-06-10 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:59:57AM -0700, Arran Cudbard-Bell wrote:
  That's why I mentioned that ConfirmAccount mediawiki extension - it will
  reduce the amount of bother for the admins, while still allowing the users
  to use minimal necessary skills to do their edits.
 
 My idea was to install an extension to the wiki that allowed rendering of
 RST. The documentation would be kept up to date on the wiki, and at
 official release time those pages would be pulled in from the wiki and
 bundled with the rest of FreeRADIUS.

But does that kind of a software actually exist?

 - Still maintains blame information

Truth be told, mediawiki history isn't like git blame, but it's
sufficiently close. Sorry for nitpicking :)

 People are far more likely to contribute if the barrier to entry is low.

I'd perhaps rephrase that by saying that when people are unlikely to
contribute, anything done to raise the barrier to entry has an amplified
negative effect on the already low likelihood that a contribution will
be actually made.

 The reason for the wikis zombie like status is, as other people have
 stated that there is no official procedure to request an account, and no
 automated account creation. I remember the issues with spam, so auto
 account creation is out. Maybe have a a registration mailing list where
 people can pick requests off and create the accounts manually?
 
 The barrier to get an account has to be sufficiently high that spammers
 won't go through the hassle and sufficiently low that people will still
 contribute.

Once again, that's exactly what Extension:ConfirmAccount tries to do.
We don't need to reinvent anything, just get it installed and see if
it works.

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Re: Looking for an editor for FreeRADIUS documentation

2010-06-10 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 10:44:27PM +0200, Alan DeKok wrote:
   We're also not in the business of account management.  Someone like
 github.com is.  If they had a Wiki that was RST *and* backed by git, it
 would be a clear winner.  But people have been asking since 2008, and
 it's still not ready.

OK, so to clarify, if we installed Extension:ConfirmAccount on the FR Wiki,
we would not reenter the annoying account management business, nor
jeopardize any live content; but we would lower the bar of entry for more
people to contribute. Coupled with Extension:RstToHtml, that could become
a decent origin for the not-so-volatile copy in freeradius-server git.
The process of copying wouldn't be trivial (probably?), but for a hired
editor it wouldn't be much of a problem either.

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Re: Looking for an editor for FreeRADIUS documentation

2010-06-10 Thread Arran Cudbard-Bell

On Jun 10, 2010, at 2:48 PM, Josip Rodin wrote:

 On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 10:44:27PM +0200, Alan DeKok wrote:
  We're also not in the business of account management.  Someone like
 github.com is.  If they had a Wiki that was RST *and* backed by git, it
 would be a clear winner.  But people have been asking since 2008, and
 it's still not ready.
 
 OK, so to clarify, if we installed Extension:ConfirmAccount on the FR Wiki,
 we would not reenter the annoying account management business, nor
 jeopardize any live content; but we would lower the bar of entry for more
 people to contribute. Coupled with Extension:RstToHtml, that could become
 a decent origin for the not-so-volatile copy in freeradius-server git.
 The process of copying wouldn't be trivial (probably?), but for a hired
 editor it wouldn't be much of a problem either.

If media wiki is anything like pmwiki, the source files are very easy to parse 
(just flat files with some metadata in the header).

-Arran


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Re: Looking for an editor for FreeRADIUS documentation

2010-06-10 Thread bjlockie
 bjloc...@lockie.ca wrote:
 What file format is the documentation in and roughly how big is it?

   Text.  Not a lot, but organized fairly poorly.

 I'm a technical writer and I'm interested.

   Try: http://freeradius.org/doc/community.html

   Or, just convert the existing txt to rst, and send them as an
 attachment to the mailing list.

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Re: Looking for an editor for FreeRADIUS documentation

2010-06-10 Thread James

 On 06/10/10 16:44, Alan DeKok wrote:

Arran Cudbard-Bell wrote:

My idea was to install an extension to the wiki that allowed rendering of RST. 
The documentation would be kept up to date on the wiki, and at official release 
time those pages would be pulled in from the wiki and bundled with the rest of 
FreeRADIUS.

   Ok.  The RST format looks a lot easier than the Wiki format.

I'm trying to get this installed:
http://catherinedevlin.blogspot.com/2009/08/enthoughts-restructuredtext-editor.html

Advantaged are:
- Easy to edit
- No learning curve for GIT
- Still maintains blame information
- Instant feedback with the preview function when testing out syntax
- One source for all documentation
- Documentation available without downloading package or src bundle.

People are far more likely to contribute if the barrier to entry is low. The 
reason for the wikis zombie like status is, as other people have stated that 
there is no official procedure to request an account, and no automated account 
creation. I remember the issues with spam, so auto account creation is out. 
Maybe have a a registration mailing list where people can pick requests off and 
create the accounts manually?

   Yes.


The barrier to get an account has to be sufficiently high that spammers won't 
go through the hassle and sufficiently low that people will still contribute.

   We're also not in the business of account management.  Someone like
github.com is.  If they had a Wiki that was RST *and* backed by git, it
would be a clear winner.  But people have been asking since 2008, and
it's still not ready.

   Alan DeKok.
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RE: Looking for an editor for FreeRADIUS documentation

2010-05-19 Thread Ramm-Ericson, Johannes
Alan DeKok wrote:
 Arran Cudbard-Bell wrote:
 The problem with volunteer 're-factoring' work, is that although people mean 
 well when they offer their
 assistance, it doesn't usually work out... They'll often spend a couple of 
 weeks working on the task,
 get bored, figure they'll take a break and come back to it later, and it 
 never gets completed.

  I'd say the hard part is getting people to just write docs.  It's not as 
 sexy as programming, but it
  has arguably more *positive* impact on the end user.

I concede both points. Now it just gets down to showing that it won't happen 
this time. :-)

 It looks like a good set of volunteers wanting to help.  My suggestion
 is to convert the docs to Restructured text:

 http://docutils.sourceforge.net/rst.html

Looks very straight forward. :)

I'll be creating a github account for myself later this evening and will start 
getting my hands dirty
after that.

Best Regards,
Johannes R-E

PS. By the way; for the sake of not duplicating effort does Peter Nixon want to 
lead the way on this or is it just a simple free-for-all?

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Re: Looking for an editor for FreeRADIUS documentation

2010-05-19 Thread Ramon J. Castillo
Need to give something back to the Open Source community. So I'd very happy to 
contribute with this project.
I have some experience contributing to standard bodies such as WBA which I'm 
the Cochair of RD and authored some of the stage 2 documents  in the WiMAX 
Forum (GRWG) currently in RiLTE (GSMA) and previously in CDG Packet group.
Strong development background and FreeRadius' user.

Ramon Castillo
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- Original Message 
From: Alan DeKok al...@deployingradius.com
To: FreeRadius users mailing list freeradius-users@lists.freeradius.org
Sent: Tue, May 18, 2010 9:16:06 AM
Subject: Looking for an editor for FreeRADIUS documentation

  In the interest of making the project better, we're looking for an
editor for the documentation.  The existing documentation is an ad hoc
collection of files thrown together over a decade of effort, and written
by many different people.

  We'd like to organize the documentation (doc/ directory), and clean
it up.  We're looking for an editor with the following skills:

- willing to do the work
- can write reasonably clearly
- basic knowledge of RADIUS

  The goal is to *organize* the documentation, not to write more.  The
existing documentation is basic, and could be improved through simple
re-organization.

  No knowledge of git is required.  Familiarity with restructured
text would be good.  We're looking to move the documentation to that
format.

  If it matters, this is a *paid* position.  We can't afford a lot, but
we can afford to pay for work done.  The rates will be negotiable based
on quantity of work and results.

  Please send email to the list if you're interested.  We can choose a
candidate, and do the edits publicly, so people see visible progress.

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Re: Looking for an editor for FreeRADIUS documentation

2010-05-19 Thread Alan DeKok
Fajar A. Nugraha wrote:
 The enthusiasm seems big enough. So how would this work?

  http://freeradius.org/doc/community.html

 Get some
 people to submit an example doc that they've converted, and then you
 pick one which is best and assign the job? Or get people to convert
 some/all docs, and you decide which one contributes most?

  It's best to break the work down into simple steps.  The above web
page describes how we should work.

  If people have simple, clear goals, they don't need much coordination.
 They can do a set of small changes to one file, and push that back.
This avoids overlap, and ensures that each change is easy to do.

  Someone with commit access can integrate the changes, where everyone
else can pick them up.

  It takes a small bit of work to set up a git account on github.  But
after that, the extra steps required by git are pretty minimal.

  Alan DeKok.
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Looking for an editor for FreeRADIUS documentation

2010-05-18 Thread Alan DeKok
  In the interest of making the project better, we're looking for an
editor for the documentation.  The existing documentation is an ad hoc
collection of files thrown together over a decade of effort, and written
by many different people.

  We'd like to organize the documentation (doc/ directory), and clean
it up.  We're looking for an editor with the following skills:

- willing to do the work
- can write reasonably clearly
- basic knowledge of RADIUS

  The goal is to *organize* the documentation, not to write more.  The
existing documentation is basic, and could be improved through simple
re-organization.

  No knowledge of git is required.  Familiarity with restructured
text would be good.  We're looking to move the documentation to that
format.

  If it matters, this is a *paid* position.  We can't afford a lot, but
we can afford to pay for work done.  The rates will be negotiable based
on quantity of work and results.

  Please send email to the list if you're interested.  We can choose a
candidate, and do the edits publicly, so people see visible progress.

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Re: Looking for an editor for FreeRADIUS documentation

2010-05-18 Thread Nyamul Hassan
Not meaning any disrespect to the paid offer, you could also reconsider to
put up the current documentation in a Wiki style webpage, and from there
everyone can work on the text that they think needs reworking.

Regards
HASSAN



On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 13:16, Alan DeKok al...@deployingradius.com wrote:

  In the interest of making the project better, we're looking for an
 editor for the documentation.  The existing documentation is an ad hoc
 collection of files thrown together over a decade of effort, and written
 by many different people.

  We'd like to organize the documentation (doc/ directory), and clean
 it up.  We're looking for an editor with the following skills:

- willing to do the work
- can write reasonably clearly
- basic knowledge of RADIUS

  The goal is to *organize* the documentation, not to write more.  The
 existing documentation is basic, and could be improved through simple
 re-organization.

  No knowledge of git is required.  Familiarity with restructured
 text would be good.  We're looking to move the documentation to that
 format.

  If it matters, this is a *paid* position.  We can't afford a lot, but
 we can afford to pay for work done.  The rates will be negotiable based
 on quantity of work and results.

  Please send email to the list if you're interested.  We can choose a
 candidate, and do the edits publicly, so people see visible progress.

  Alan DeKok.
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Re: Looking for an editor for FreeRADIUS documentation

2010-05-18 Thread Alan DeKok
Nyamul Hassan wrote:
 Not meaning any disrespect to the paid offer, you could also
 reconsider to put up the current documentation in a Wiki style
 webpage, and from there everyone can work on the text that they think
 needs reworking.

  We already have a Wiki.  Few people edit it.  We already have a
publicly available doc directory.  Few people submit changes.

  Putting the existing docs into a Wiki won't magically make people
submit changes.

  We're looking for an editor.  All we want is someone who can organize
and format the existing documentation.  There is no need for in depth
knowledge of RADIUS.  There is no need for to write *new* documentation.

  That is work which is normally seen as not fun.  But it's needed.
Therefore, the offer to pay for services rendered.

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Re: Looking for an editor for FreeRADIUS documentation

2010-05-18 Thread Ana Gallardo
I would like to do this job, but my english is poor, so I can't do it :(

2010/5/18 Alan DeKok al...@deployingradius.com

 Nyamul Hassan wrote:
  Not meaning any disrespect to the paid offer, you could also
  reconsider to put up the current documentation in a Wiki style
  webpage, and from there everyone can work on the text that they think
  needs reworking.

   We already have a Wiki.  Few people edit it.  We already have a
 publicly available doc directory.  Few people submit changes.

  Putting the existing docs into a Wiki won't magically make people
 submit changes.

  We're looking for an editor.  All we want is someone who can organize
 and format the existing documentation.  There is no need for in depth
 knowledge of RADIUS.  There is no need for to write *new* documentation.

  That is work which is normally seen as not fun.  But it's needed.
 Therefore, the offer to pay for services rendered.

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Re: Looking for an editor for FreeRADIUS documentation

2010-05-18 Thread Nyamul Hassan
I tried to signup to be able to edit the Wiki, but it seems that signup is
disabled!

Regards
HASSAN



On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 14:02, Ana Gallardo ana.gallardo...@gmail.comwrote:

 I would like to do this job, but my english is poor, so I can't do it :(

 2010/5/18 Alan DeKok al...@deployingradius.com

 Nyamul Hassan wrote:
  Not meaning any disrespect to the paid offer, you could also
  reconsider to put up the current documentation in a Wiki style
  webpage, and from there everyone can work on the text that they think
  needs reworking.

   We already have a Wiki.  Few people edit it.  We already have a
 publicly available doc directory.  Few people submit changes.

  Putting the existing docs into a Wiki won't magically make people
 submit changes.

  We're looking for an editor.  All we want is someone who can organize
 and format the existing documentation.  There is no need for in depth
 knowledge of RADIUS.  There is no need for to write *new* documentation.

  That is work which is normally seen as not fun.  But it's needed.
 Therefore, the offer to pay for services rendered.

  Alan DeKok.

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RE: Looking for an editor for FreeRADIUS documentation

2010-05-18 Thread Ramm-Ericson, Johannes
Hi,

I'd definitely be willing to help out with this task. Particularly if it could 
be turned into a collaborative effort.

Money is nice, however my primary motive would actually be to contribute to an 
outstanding piece of software that has been essential in my job. So, should I 
become involved in this effort you can happily use the money elsewhere. :)

Best Regards,
Johannes R-E

-Original Message-

Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 09:16:06 +0200
From: Alan DeKok al...@deployingradius.com
Subject: Looking for an editor for FreeRADIUS documentation
To: FreeRadius users mailing list
freeradius-users@lists.freeradius.org
Message-ID: 4bf23eb6.7080...@deployingradius.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

  In the interest of making the project better, we're looking for an
editor for the documentation.  The existing documentation is an ad hoc
collection of files thrown together over a decade of effort, and written
by many different people.

  We'd like to organize the documentation (doc/ directory), and clean
it up.  We're looking for an editor with the following skills:

- willing to do the work
- can write reasonably clearly
- basic knowledge of RADIUS

  The goal is to *organize* the documentation, not to write more.  The
existing documentation is basic, and could be improved through simple
re-organization.

  No knowledge of git is required.  Familiarity with restructured
text would be good.  We're looking to move the documentation to that
format.

  If it matters, this is a *paid* position.  We can't afford a lot, but
we can afford to pay for work done.  The rates will be negotiable based
on quantity of work and results.

  Please send email to the list if you're interested.  We can choose a
candidate, and do the edits publicly, so people see visible progress.

  Alan DeKok.


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RE: Looking for an editor for FreeRADIUS documentation

2010-05-18 Thread Jack Martin
I would be willing to help as well-if its a collaboration. I can't code and 
this would be a way to give back. The money could be used someplace it's really 
needed. 

-Original Message-
From: Ramm-Ericson, Johannes johannes.ramm-eric...@sonyericsson.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 3:14 AM
To: 'freeradius-users@lists.freeradius.org' 
freeradius-users@lists.freeradius.org
Subject: RE: Looking for an editor for FreeRADIUS documentation

Hi,

I'd definitely be willing to help out with this task. Particularly if it could 
be turned into a collaborative effort.

Money is nice, however my primary motive would actually be to contribute to an 
outstanding piece of software that has been essential in my job. So, should I 
become involved in this effort you can happily use the money elsewhere. :)

Best Regards,
Johannes R-E

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Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 09:16:06 +0200
From: Alan DeKok al...@deployingradius.com
Subject: Looking for an editor for FreeRADIUS documentation
To: FreeRadius users mailing list
freeradius-users@lists.freeradius.org
Message-ID: 4bf23eb6.7080...@deployingradius.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

  In the interest of making the project better, we're looking for an
editor for the documentation.  The existing documentation is an ad hoc
collection of files thrown together over a decade of effort, and written
by many different people.

  We'd like to organize the documentation (doc/ directory), and clean
it up.  We're looking for an editor with the following skills:


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Re: Looking for an editor for FreeRADIUS documentation

2010-05-18 Thread Michael Schwartzkopff
Am Dienstag, 18. Mai 2010 09:16:06 schrieb Alan DeKok:
   In the interest of making the project better, we're looking for an
 editor for the documentation.  The existing documentation is an ad hoc
 collection of files thrown together over a decade of effort, and written
 by many different people.

   We'd like to organize the documentation (doc/ directory), and clean
 it up.  We're looking for an editor with the following skills:

 - willing to do the work
 - can write reasonably clearly
 - basic knowledge of RADIUS

   The goal is to *organize* the documentation, not to write more.  The
 existing documentation is basic, and could be improved through simple
 re-organization.

   No knowledge of git is required.  Familiarity with restructured
 text would be good.  We're looking to move the documentation to that
 format.

   If it matters, this is a *paid* position.  We can't afford a lot, but
 we can afford to pay for work done.  The rates will be negotiable based
 on quantity of work and results.

   Please send email to the list if you're interested.  We can choose a
 candidate, and do the edits publicly, so people see visible progress.

   Alan DeKok.

Hi,

I'd like to contribute. I can write some chapters. Since I am no native 
English speaker I'd need a lector to check my writing.

And I have some experience in artice and book writing.

Perhaps with the help of all the volunteers we can finish the book. You define 
the structure and people contribute text.

Greetings,

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Re: Looking for an editor for FreeRADIUS documentation

2010-05-18 Thread Nyamul Hassan
I can both write chapters, and also edit the work of other contributors who
are not too well versed in English.

I would still request Alan to reconsider the wiki approach.  Perhaps, you
can dictate the structure of the wiki, and we can all contribute to fill up
the contents.

But, whatever the way you choose, we all would like to help out the best we
can.  Like Jack said above, I too am not a C / C++ developer, and think this
would be a good way to give back.

Regards
HASSAN




On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 19:18, Michael Schwartzkopff mi...@multinet.dewrote:

 Am Dienstag, 18. Mai 2010 09:16:06 schrieb Alan DeKok:
In the interest of making the project better, we're looking for an
  editor for the documentation.  The existing documentation is an ad hoc
  collection of files thrown together over a decade of effort, and written
  by many different people.
 
We'd like to organize the documentation (doc/ directory), and clean
  it up.  We're looking for an editor with the following skills:
 
  - willing to do the work
  - can write reasonably clearly
  - basic knowledge of RADIUS
 
The goal is to *organize* the documentation, not to write more.  The
  existing documentation is basic, and could be improved through simple
  re-organization.
 
No knowledge of git is required.  Familiarity with restructured
  text would be good.  We're looking to move the documentation to that
  format.
 
If it matters, this is a *paid* position.  We can't afford a lot, but
  we can afford to pay for work done.  The rates will be negotiable based
  on quantity of work and results.
 
Please send email to the list if you're interested.  We can choose a
  candidate, and do the edits publicly, so people see visible progress.
 
Alan DeKok.

 Hi,

 I'd like to contribute. I can write some chapters. Since I am no native
 English speaker I'd need a lector to check my writing.

 And I have some experience in artice and book writing.

 Perhaps with the help of all the volunteers we can finish the book. You
 define
 the structure and people contribute text.

 Greetings,

 --
 Dr. Michael Schwartzkopff
 MultiNET Services GmbH
 Addresse: Bretonischer Ring 7; 85630 Grasbrunn; Germany
 Tel: +49 - 89 - 45 69 11 0
 Fax: +49 - 89 - 45 69 11 21
 mob: +49 - 174 - 343 28 75

 mail: mi...@multinet.de
 web: www.multinet.de

 Sitz der Gesellschaft: 85630 Grasbrunn
 Registergericht: Amtsgericht München HRB 114375
 Geschäftsführer: Günter Jurgeneit, Hubert Martens

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Re: Looking for an editor for FreeRADIUS documentation

2010-05-18 Thread Arran Cudbard-Bell
The problem with volunteer 're-factoring' work, is that although people mean 
well when they offer their assistance, it doesn't usually work out... They'll 
often spend a couple of weeks working on the task, get bored, figure they'll 
take a break and come back to it later, and it never gets completed.

Offering financial renumeration means that the work is more likely to be 
completed, because there's a tangible pay off after it's finished.

Sorry to by cynical, but that's my experience of things; and yes i've been on 
both sides.

-Arran

On May 18, 2010, at 5:35 AM, Jack Martin wrote:

 I would be willing to help as well-if its a collaboration. I can't code and 
 this would be a way to give back. The money could be used someplace it's 
 really needed. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ramm-Ericson, Johannes johannes.ramm-eric...@sonyericsson.com
 Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 3:14 AM
 To: 'freeradius-users@lists.freeradius.org' 
 freeradius-users@lists.freeradius.org
 Subject: RE: Looking for an editor for FreeRADIUS documentation
 
 Hi,
 
 I'd definitely be willing to help out with this task. Particularly if it 
 could be turned into a collaborative effort.
 
 Money is nice, however my primary motive would actually be to contribute to 
 an outstanding piece of software that has been essential in my job. So, 
 should I become involved in this effort you can happily use the money 
 elsewhere. :)
 
 Best Regards,
 Johannes R-E
 
 -Original Message-
 
 Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 09:16:06 +0200
 From: Alan DeKok al...@deployingradius.com
 Subject: Looking for an editor for FreeRADIUS documentation
 To: FreeRadius users mailing list
   freeradius-users@lists.freeradius.org
 Message-ID: 4bf23eb6.7080...@deployingradius.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
 
  In the interest of making the project better, we're looking for an
 editor for the documentation.  The existing documentation is an ad hoc
 collection of files thrown together over a decade of effort, and written
 by many different people.
 
  We'd like to organize the documentation (doc/ directory), and clean
 it up.  We're looking for an editor with the following skills:
 
 
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Re: Looking for an editor for FreeRADIUS documentation

2010-05-18 Thread Alan DeKok
Arran Cudbard-Bell wrote:
 The problem with volunteer 're-factoring' work, is that although people mean 
 well when they offer their assistance, it doesn't usually work out... They'll 
 often spend a couple of weeks working on the task, get bored, figure they'll 
 take a break and come back to it later, and it never gets completed.

  I'd say the hard part is getting people to just write docs.  It's not
as sexy as programming, but it has arguably more *positive* impact on
the end user.

  It looks like a good set of volunteers wanting to help.  My suggestion
is to convert the docs to Restructured text:

http://docutils.sourceforge.net/rst.html

  Quick reference:

http://docutils.sourceforge.net/docs/user/rst/quickref.html

  Peter Nixon has converted a few documents over to RST:

http://github.com/alandekok/freeradius-server/commits/master

  Look at the difference between the old  new versions.  The new
version is *automatically* marked up nicely on github!

http://github.com/alandekok/freeradius-server/blob/master/doc/load-balance.rst

  This makes it *enormously* easier to read.

  Personally, I'd be happy if this effort results in the existing docs
being converted to RST.  It's easy to read as text, and looks good as HTML.

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Re: Looking for an editor for FreeRADIUS documentation

2010-05-18 Thread Fajar A. Nugraha
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 3:12 AM, Alan DeKok al...@deployingradius.com wrote:
  Personally, I'd be happy if this effort results in the existing docs
 being converted to RST.  It's easy to read as text, and looks good as HTML.

The enthusiasm seems big enough. So how would this work? Get some
people to submit an example doc that they've converted, and then you
pick one which is best and assign the job? Or get people to convert
some/all docs, and you decide which one contributes most?

-- 
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Re: freeradius documentation: Auth-Type

2008-05-19 Thread Kwok Sianbin
Hi,
 
 Sorry for my English.
 After make some changes in the client.cnf 
 the #make client.pem can't be run.
 Now the # radiusd -X also got problem.
 .
 .
 .
 Module: Linked to sub-module rlm_eap_tls
  Module: Instantiating eap-tls
tls {
 rsa_key_exchange = no
 dh_key_exchange = yes
 rsa_key_length = 512
 dh_key_length = 512
 verify_depth = 0
 pem_file_type = yes
 private_key_file = /usr/local/etc/raddb/certs/server.pem
 certificate_file = /usr/local/etc/raddb/certs/server.pem
 CA_file = /usr/local/etc/raddb/certs/ca.pem
 private_key_password = Mars123
 dh_file = /usr/local/etc/raddb/certs/dh
 random_file = /usr/local/etc/raddb/certs/random
 fragment_size = 1024
 include_length = yes
 check_crl = no
 cipher_list = DEFAULT
 make_cert_command = /usr/local/etc/raddb/certs/bootstrap
}
 rlm_eap: SSL error error:0906D06C:PEM routines:PEM_read_bio:no start line
 rlm_eap_tls: Error reading certificate file 
/usr/local/etc/raddb/certs/server.pe m
 rlm_eap: Failed to initialize type tls
 /usr/local/etc/raddb/eap.conf[17]: Instantiation failed for module eap
 /usr/local/etc/raddb/sites-enabled/inner-tunnel[223]: Failed to find module 
eap .
 /usr/local/etc/raddb/sites-enabled/inner-tunnel[176]: Errors parsing 
authenticat e section.
  }
 }
 Errors initializing modules
 
 Plz anyone can help!



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Re: freeradius documentation: Auth-Type

2008-05-19 Thread A . L . M . Buxey
Hi,
 Hi,
  
  Sorry for my English.
  After make some changes in the client.cnf 
  the #make client.pem can't be run.
  Now the # radiusd -X also got problem.

undo your edits, or recover working client.cnf
and strt again. any broken certs will also break
freeradius - as you can now see.

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Re: freeradius documentation: Auth-Type

2008-05-16 Thread Alan DeKok
NPY wrote:
 As someone very new to freeradius, I find that I am struggling with the
 available documentation.

  Well... yes.

 I have problem trying to find explanations on important attributes such
 as Auth-Type on
 what it means, what are the valid values etc. Can someone point me to
 the right place?

  Auth-Type means use the named Auth-Type sub-section from the
authenticate section.

 I know http://www.freeradius.org/rfc/attributes.htm is around but it
 does not list all attributes, including Auth-Type.

  It lists the RFC standard attributes.  It doesn't list the other 4000
vendor-specific attributes.

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freeradius documentation: Auth-Type

2008-05-14 Thread NPY
Hi,

As someone very new to freeradius, I find that I am struggling with the 
available documentation.

I have problem trying to find explanations on important attributes such as 
Auth-Type on 
what it means, what are the valid values etc. Can someone point me to the right 
place?

I know http://www.freeradius.org/rfc/attributes.htm is around but it does not 
list all attributes, including Auth-Type.

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Re: freeradius documentation: Auth-Type

2008-05-14 Thread Ivan Kalik
Instructions for using Auth-Type:

Don't use it. Let server figure it out.

Exceptions:

Types Accept and Reject. Uses for them are explained in FAQ.

Ivan Kalik
Kalik Informatika ISP


Dana 14/5/2008, NPY [EMAIL PROTECTED] piše:

Hi,

As someone very new to freeradius, I find that I am struggling with the 
available documentation.

I have problem trying to find explanations on important attributes such as 
Auth-Type on 
what it means, what are the valid values etc. Can someone point me to the 
right place?

I know http://www.freeradius.org/rfc/attributes.htm is around but it does not 
list all attributes, including Auth-Type.




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How to get FreeRADIUS documentation: contribute.

2006-08-27 Thread Alan DeKok
Scott Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm not going to get into what the project lacks as this is old news. At 
 least Alan is working on documentation to support people like us. :) Having 
 said that, I find it amazing as to the lack of overal support for the 
 project on the Internet. Working examples seem to be hard to come by?

  The people who work on the project do so in their free time, at
their own expense.  They have full-time jobs, families, hobbies, and
other interests.  Despite that, they devote a significant amount of
time to pushing the project ahead.

 All of the work I do is Microsoft Server based (no suprise)! I am new to 
 Linux in almost every sense of the word yet I'm well aware of how powerfull 
 it can be... The downfall of Linux on the whole, and I'm not talking about 
 any one project and or distro, is the total lack of real support. When I say 
 real support, I mean good, solid documentation to help new users from the 
 ground up.

  Support is available, if you're willing to pay for it.  Free
documentation is less readily available.  Microsoft can afford to have
free documentation online because you paid money for their product.
Your surprise that free software doesn't have commercial quantities of
documentation is based on a lack of education as to the economics of
the situation.

  Other open source projects have people getting paid full-time to
work on the those projects.  FreeRADIUS doesn't.  Some are smaller
than FreeRADIUS in terms of the number of deployments, too. Other
projects have more people involved, which spreads the load.  That's
why some projects have more and better documentation.

  And yet... if we ask for people to contribute documentation, 99.9%
of the people who use the server (or any open source project) don't.
When we ask people to pay for support or development, they don't.
When we point out that it's not nice for people who don't contribute
to complain about the work done by the people who do contribute, rude
words are sent our way...

  It makes me wonder why I'm even bothering.

  So let's try the put up or shut up method.  If I get 100 people
contributing $1k U.S. each, I'll devote a year, full-time, to
FreeRADIUS documentation, development, and bug fixes.  Given that my
time is now only about 5-10 hours a week, you should see a *major*
improvement in the product.

  Heck, I'll even put a meter on my web site, listing how close we are
to the goal, and mention the people who contributed (if they want.)
Send me private email with a promise, and if we get close, I'll
respond, and ask for the checks.  If not, you'll have to continue with
the same level of documentation you have now.

  Is that good enough?

  Alan DeKok.
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Re: FreeRadius documentation

2005-06-02 Thread Alexei Monastyrnyi

Hi.

There is a bit of info here, which is pretty much in correlation with 
O'Reilly book RADIUS.

http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LDAP-Implementation-HOWTO/radius.html

The book helped me a lot with configuring simple auth via RADIUS against 
LDAP userPassword attribute.
I'm trying now to find now something for NTLM passwords and MPPE keys to 
authenticate PPTP VPN clients.

Pls drop me a line if you meet it somewhere.

A.

James Flockton wrote:


All,

Just wondering if anyone can point me towards to some good
documentation for FreeRadius please? I'm wanting to build a box
running Radius and using OpenLDAP for authentication detail i.e. user
name, IP etc.


Many thanks
James

 

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RE: FreeRadius documentation

2005-06-02 Thread Seferovic Edvin
Please visit the www.poptop.org for the documentation and a good howto on
configuring POPTOP with Radius.

Regards,

Edvin Seferovic

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Subject: Re: FreeRadius documentation

Hi.

There is a bit of info here, which is pretty much in correlation with 
O'Reilly book RADIUS.
http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LDAP-Implementation-HOWTO/radius.html

The book helped me a lot with configuring simple auth via RADIUS against 
LDAP userPassword attribute.
I'm trying now to find now something for NTLM passwords and MPPE keys to 
authenticate PPTP VPN clients.
Pls drop me a line if you meet it somewhere.

A.

James Flockton wrote:

All,

Just wondering if anyone can point me towards to some good
documentation for FreeRadius please? I'm wanting to build a box
running Radius and using OpenLDAP for authentication detail i.e. user
name, IP etc.


Many thanks
James

  

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Re: FreeRadius documentation

2005-06-02 Thread James Flockton
Thanks very much, I had done some google searches but if you try it
yourself looking for FreeRadius documentation not much is pinpointed.

Thanks to all of you who sent in helpful responces.

James

On 02/06/05, Seferovic Edvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Please visit the www.poptop.org for the documentation and a good howto on
 configuring POPTOP with Radius.
 
 Regards,
 
 Edvin Seferovic
 
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 Sent: Donnerstag, 02. Juni 2005 09:30
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 Subject: Re: FreeRadius documentation
 
 Hi.
 
 There is a bit of info here, which is pretty much in correlation with
 O'Reilly book RADIUS.
 http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LDAP-Implementation-HOWTO/radius.html
 
 The book helped me a lot with configuring simple auth via RADIUS against
 LDAP userPassword attribute.
 I'm trying now to find now something for NTLM passwords and MPPE keys to
 authenticate PPTP VPN clients.
 Pls drop me a line if you meet it somewhere.
 
 A.
 
 James Flockton wrote:
 
 All,
 
 Just wondering if anyone can point me towards to some good
 documentation for FreeRadius please? I'm wanting to build a box
 running Radius and using OpenLDAP for authentication detail i.e. user
 name, IP etc.
 
 
 Many thanks
 James
 
 
 
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FreeRadius documentation

2005-06-01 Thread James Flockton
All,

Just wondering if anyone can point me towards to some good
documentation for FreeRadius please? I'm wanting to build a box
running Radius and using OpenLDAP for authentication detail i.e. user
name, IP etc.


Many thanks
James

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Re: FreeRadius documentation

2005-06-01 Thread Alan DeKok
James Flockton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Just wondering if anyone can point me towards to some good
 documentation for FreeRadius please? I'm wanting to build a box
 running Radius and using OpenLDAP for authentication detail i.e. user
 name, IP etc.

  The server comes with documentation.

  Try also searching google: freeradius openldap

  Alan DeKok.

  
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Re: Freeradius documentation

2005-03-31 Thread Mark Wasmer
   And how about freeradius configuration and function description?

This remembers me the response of the CA-Tool TinyCA when klicking on the
help-button - the following popup say Your are kidding, are you?? ;-)
There is none - why don't start something like a Wiki (such as mediawiki.org)
for this purpose ? I set up one for my internal use becaus i'm doing a
educational projekt like you with FreeRADIUS.


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Freeradius documentation

2005-03-30 Thread Helder Lima
  I'm computer science student and I'm working in the my graduated
project. This project is about freeradius and strong authentication.
  I Would to know about some documentation for freeradius (code flow
design, description library, description project, etc). There is
something about?
  Where do i get?

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Re: Freeradius documentation

2005-03-30 Thread Alan DeKok
Helder Lima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I'm computer science student and I'm working in the my graduated
 project. This project is about freeradius and strong authentication.
   I Would to know about some documentation for freeradius (code flow
 design, description library, description project, etc). There is
 something about?

  There's no real documentation for how the server works internally.

  If you do write some, submit it, and we'll include it in the server.

  Alan DeKok.

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FreeRadius Documentation

2005-02-08 Thread Martin Tejerina
Hy, i am new in the use of freeradius, are there any documentation in
spanish about installation and configuration about freeradius.

Thanks a lot.


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