[Freesurfer] T1 and T2 in one recon-all

2009-11-30 Thread Samuel Inverso
Hi Freesurfers,

Looking through the mail archives it seems T1 and T2 runs for a single 
subject should not be combined when doing recon-all.
Is this still the case?

Thank you for your time,

Cheers,

-Sam

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Re: [Freesurfer] T1 and T2 in one recon-all

2009-11-30 Thread Bruce Fischl
yes, just the T1.

cheers,
Bruce
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009, Samuel Inverso wrote:

 Hi Freesurfers,

 Looking through the mail archives it seems T1 and T2 runs for a single
 subject should not be combined when doing recon-all.
 Is this still the case?

 Thank you for your time,

 Cheers,

 -Sam

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Re: [Freesurfer] T1 and T2 in one recon-all

2009-11-30 Thread Samuel Inverso
Thank you for the quick reply Bruce.
I'm new to freesurfer, do you  know if there is any benefit to including 
T2 in the process workflow somewhere?

Cheers,

-Sam

On 30/11/2009 11:35 PM, Bruce Fischl wrote:
 yes, just the T1.

 cheers,
 Bruce
 On Mon, 30 Nov 2009, Samuel Inverso wrote:

 Hi Freesurfers,

 Looking through the mail archives it seems T1 and T2 runs for a single
 subject should not be combined when doing recon-all.
 Is this still the case?

 Thank you for your time,

 Cheers,

 -Sam

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Re: [Freesurfer] T1 and T2 in one recon-all

2009-11-30 Thread Bruce Fischl
not for the default workflow, no. There are other things we are working on 
such as damaged white matter estimation that would benefit, but nothing 
released.

cheers
Bruce
  On Mon, 30 Nov 2009, Samuel Inverso wrote:

 Thank you for the quick reply Bruce.
 I'm new to freesurfer, do you  know if there is any benefit to including
 T2 in the process workflow somewhere?

 Cheers,

 -Sam

 On 30/11/2009 11:35 PM, Bruce Fischl wrote:
 yes, just the T1.

 cheers,
 Bruce
 On Mon, 30 Nov 2009, Samuel Inverso wrote:

 Hi Freesurfers,

 Looking through the mail archives it seems T1 and T2 runs for a single
 subject should not be combined when doing recon-all.
 Is this still the case?

 Thank you for your time,

 Cheers,

 -Sam

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Re: [Freesurfer] T1 and T2 in one recon-all

2009-11-30 Thread Samuel Inverso
Ok, I would be interested in your damaged white mater tools  when it's 
released (or even if its in a generally usable form now) as I'm working 
with a large data set of multiple sclerosis subjects.

Cheers,
-Sam


On 30/11/2009 11:54 PM, Bruce Fischl wrote:
 not for the default workflow, no. There are other things we are working on
 such as damaged white matter estimation that would benefit, but nothing
 released.

 cheers
 Bruce
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009, Samuel Inverso wrote:

 Thank you for the quick reply Bruce.
 I'm new to freesurfer, do you  know if there is any benefit to including
 T2 in the process workflow somewhere?

 Cheers,

 -Sam

 On 30/11/2009 11:35 PM, Bruce Fischl wrote:
 yes, just the T1.

 cheers,
 Bruce
 On Mon, 30 Nov 2009, Samuel Inverso wrote:

 Hi Freesurfers,

 Looking through the mail archives it seems T1 and T2 runs for a single
 subject should not be combined when doing recon-all.
 Is this still the case?

 Thank you for your time,

 Cheers,

 -Sam

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[Freesurfer] Comments in paradigm files

2009-11-30 Thread Yigal Agam
Hi,

Can you add comments to a paradigm file?

Thanks,
Yigal
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[Freesurfer] TKSURFER error- open GL in Fedora

2009-11-30 Thread Massieh Moayedi
Hi,

I can't seem to run tksurfer in Fedora 7.  We are using a Wacom Tablet 
monitor, and since we installed it, we cannot run tksurfer.  We get the 
following error:

surfer: ### redraw failed: no gl window open
surfer: single buffered window
surfer: tkoInitWindow(fsaverage)
Can't create a context!
surfer: failed, trying double buffered window
Can't create a context!
surfer: failed, no suitable display found

Does anyone know how to go about this?

massih


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Re: [Freesurfer] Comments in paradigm files

2009-11-30 Thread Douglas N Greve
You can append to the end of a line in the 4 column format.

Yigal Agam wrote:
 Hi,

 Can you add comments to a paradigm file?

 Thanks,
 Yigal
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[Freesurfer] colin27 skullstrip problem

2009-11-30 Thread Mishkin Derakhshan
Hi,
I'm trying to get the surfaces for the colin27 brain that is included
with the mni packages. Has anyone managed to do this before?

I thought I would have an easy time given that this linear average of
27 brains has very good signal to noise and nice contrasts, and even
though recon-all completes without errors, the surfaces are way off.
The main problem appears to be the skull stripping.

My input volume is here:
http://opus.bic.mni.mcgill.ca/public/colin27_t1_tal_lin.mnc.gz

These are the steps I took and where I think the problem might be:
1. gunzip colin27_t1_tal_lin.mnc.gz
2. recon-all -i colin27_t1_tal_lin.mnc -subjid colin27
3. tkmedit conlin27 orig/001.mgz
At this point the image the brightness and contrast levels of the
image look very washed out. I am hoping this is only a display issue
and that the underlying intensities of the image are still intact and
is not a result of something going on in mri_convert, but maybe this
is what is causing the downstream skull strip to fail. Can someone
take a look?
http://opus.bic.mni.mcgill.ca/public/001.mgz
4. recon-all  -autorecon1 -subjid colin27
5. tkregister2 --mgz --s colin27 --fstal
Results are not perfect but reasonable ie. about the same as many
other runs I've had that have passed so I don't think it is the
registration.
6. tkmedit colin27 brainmask.mgz -aux T1.mgz
It is clear this is where the problem is.
http://opus.bic.mni.mcgill.ca/public/brainmask.mgz
http://opus.bic.mni.mcgill.ca/public/T1.mgz
7. I have subsequently tried:
recon-all -skullstrip -wsthresh 10 -clean-bm -no-wsgcaatlas -subjid
colin27 (basically extract the entire head)
recon-all -skullstrip -wsthresh 5 -clean-bm -no-wsgcaatlas -subjid
colin27 (basically extracted the entire head)
recon-all -skullstrip -wsthresh 5 -clean-bm -subjid colin27 (extracted
the brain, but left large chunks of skull)
recon-all -skullstrip -wsthresh 2 -clean-bm -subjid colin27 (extracted
the brain, but left quite a few chunks of skull)

I'm concerned that the -wsthresh is so low in order to get a
reasonable result, that's why I think the intensities might be off
(see step 3).

I'm re-running -autorecon2/3 now to see if the surfaces are better,
but if someone could take a look at my input file and the converted
001.mgz to see if it isn't a problem there it would be much
appreciated.

thanks,
mishkin
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Re: [Freesurfer] colin27 skullstrip problem

2009-11-30 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Mishkin,

yes, I generates surfaces for the Colin27 dataset. It actually doesn't 
have great gray/white contrast, probably due to differential B0 
distortions in the different sessions. Maybe we should include it as part 
of our release? In any case, I can send it to you.

cheers
Bruce


On Mon, 30 Nov 2009, Mishkin 
Derakhshan wrote:

 Hi,
 I'm trying to get the surfaces for the colin27 brain that is included
 with the mni packages. Has anyone managed to do this before?

 I thought I would have an easy time given that this linear average of
 27 brains has very good signal to noise and nice contrasts, and even
 though recon-all completes without errors, the surfaces are way off.
 The main problem appears to be the skull stripping.

 My input volume is here:
 http://opus.bic.mni.mcgill.ca/public/colin27_t1_tal_lin.mnc.gz

 These are the steps I took and where I think the problem might be:
 1. gunzip colin27_t1_tal_lin.mnc.gz
 2. recon-all -i colin27_t1_tal_lin.mnc -subjid colin27
 3. tkmedit conlin27 orig/001.mgz
 At this point the image the brightness and contrast levels of the
 image look very washed out. I am hoping this is only a display issue
 and that the underlying intensities of the image are still intact and
 is not a result of something going on in mri_convert, but maybe this
 is what is causing the downstream skull strip to fail. Can someone
 take a look?
 http://opus.bic.mni.mcgill.ca/public/001.mgz
 4. recon-all  -autorecon1 -subjid colin27
 5. tkregister2 --mgz --s colin27 --fstal
 Results are not perfect but reasonable ie. about the same as many
 other runs I've had that have passed so I don't think it is the
 registration.
 6. tkmedit colin27 brainmask.mgz -aux T1.mgz
 It is clear this is where the problem is.
 http://opus.bic.mni.mcgill.ca/public/brainmask.mgz
 http://opus.bic.mni.mcgill.ca/public/T1.mgz
 7. I have subsequently tried:
 recon-all -skullstrip -wsthresh 10 -clean-bm -no-wsgcaatlas -subjid
 colin27 (basically extract the entire head)
 recon-all -skullstrip -wsthresh 5 -clean-bm -no-wsgcaatlas -subjid
 colin27 (basically extracted the entire head)
 recon-all -skullstrip -wsthresh 5 -clean-bm -subjid colin27 (extracted
 the brain, but left large chunks of skull)
 recon-all -skullstrip -wsthresh 2 -clean-bm -subjid colin27 (extracted
 the brain, but left quite a few chunks of skull)

 I'm concerned that the -wsthresh is so low in order to get a
 reasonable result, that's why I think the intensities might be off
 (see step 3).

 I'm re-running -autorecon2/3 now to see if the surfaces are better,
 but if someone could take a look at my input file and the converted
 001.mgz to see if it isn't a problem there it would be much
 appreciated.

 thanks,
 mishkin
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Re: [Freesurfer] colin27 skullstrip problem

2009-11-30 Thread Mishkin Derakhshan
Hi Bruce,

A copy of the surfaces would be much appreciated. Just let me know
where I can download them from. Ideally if you
can tar the whole colin27 directory so I have the aseg and aparc info
as well that would be great. I think including this and/or the mni152
and average_305 surfaces would be great, though this might bloat the
size of the download.

Not sure if you had a chance to look at my files, but do you think the
problem I have is just a bad skullstrip, or is it an intensity issue
from the conversion?

thanks,
mishkin



On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 8:53 PM, Bruce Fischl
fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
 Hi Mishkin,

 yes, I generates surfaces for the Colin27 dataset. It actually doesn't have
 great gray/white contrast, probably due to differential B0 distortions in
 the different sessions. Maybe we should include it as part of our release?
 In any case, I can send it to you.

 cheers
 Bruce


 On Mon, 30 Nov 2009, Mishkin Derakhshan wrote:

 Hi,
 I'm trying to get the surfaces for the colin27 brain that is included
 with the mni packages. Has anyone managed to do this before?

 I thought I would have an easy time given that this linear average of
 27 brains has very good signal to noise and nice contrasts, and even
 though recon-all completes without errors, the surfaces are way off.
 The main problem appears to be the skull stripping.

 My input volume is here:
 http://opus.bic.mni.mcgill.ca/public/colin27_t1_tal_lin.mnc.gz

 These are the steps I took and where I think the problem might be:
 1. gunzip colin27_t1_tal_lin.mnc.gz
 2. recon-all -i colin27_t1_tal_lin.mnc -subjid colin27
 3. tkmedit conlin27 orig/001.mgz
 At this point the image the brightness and contrast levels of the
 image look very washed out. I am hoping this is only a display issue
 and that the underlying intensities of the image are still intact and
 is not a result of something going on in mri_convert, but maybe this
 is what is causing the downstream skull strip to fail. Can someone
 take a look?
 http://opus.bic.mni.mcgill.ca/public/001.mgz
 4. recon-all  -autorecon1 -subjid colin27
 5. tkregister2 --mgz --s colin27 --fstal
 Results are not perfect but reasonable ie. about the same as many
 other runs I've had that have passed so I don't think it is the
 registration.
 6. tkmedit colin27 brainmask.mgz -aux T1.mgz
 It is clear this is where the problem is.
 http://opus.bic.mni.mcgill.ca/public/brainmask.mgz
 http://opus.bic.mni.mcgill.ca/public/T1.mgz
 7. I have subsequently tried:
 recon-all -skullstrip -wsthresh 10 -clean-bm -no-wsgcaatlas -subjid
 colin27 (basically extract the entire head)
 recon-all -skullstrip -wsthresh 5 -clean-bm -no-wsgcaatlas -subjid
 colin27 (basically extracted the entire head)
 recon-all -skullstrip -wsthresh 5 -clean-bm -subjid colin27 (extracted
 the brain, but left large chunks of skull)
 recon-all -skullstrip -wsthresh 2 -clean-bm -subjid colin27 (extracted
 the brain, but left quite a few chunks of skull)

 I'm concerned that the -wsthresh is so low in order to get a
 reasonable result, that's why I think the intensities might be off
 (see step 3).

 I'm re-running -autorecon2/3 now to see if the surfaces are better,
 but if someone could take a look at my input file and the converted
 001.mgz to see if it isn't a problem there it would be much
 appreciated.

 thanks,
 mishkin
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[Freesurfer] recon-all -qcache question

2009-11-30 Thread Guang Zeng

Hi, there,

I have 60 subjects which have been FS analyzed without the flag -qcache. 
Now, I wan to do group analysis using QDEC. 

I need run recon-all -s subjectid -qcache for each of my subjects.
Just want to know how it will take to finish the recon-all -s subjectid -qcache 
command for 
one subject?

Will it go through the whole -autorecon1, 2, 3 process again?

Thanks a lot!
Guang
  
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Re: [Freesurfer] recon-all -qcache question

2009-11-30 Thread Mehul Sampat
Hi Guang,

It is much faster as it does not go through the whole autorecon1, 2, 3
process.
 For us, it take about 45 minutes per subject.
Regards
Mehul


On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Guang Zeng freesurfer...@hotmail.comwrote:

  Hi, there,

 I have 60 subjects which have been FS analyzed without the flag -qcache.
 Now, I wan to do group analysis using QDEC.

 I need run recon-all -s subjectid -qcache for each of my subjects.
 Just want to know how it will take to finish the recon-all -s subjectid
 -qcache command for
 one subject?

 Will it go through the whole -autorecon1, 2, 3 process again?

 Thanks a lot!
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Re: [Freesurfer] colin27 skullstrip problem

2009-11-30 Thread roberto toro
Hello,
I am also very interested in having a copy of colin27's FS data!
roberto

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 2:53 AM, Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
 Hi Mishkin,

 yes, I generates surfaces for the Colin27 dataset. It actually doesn't
 have great gray/white contrast, probably due to differential B0
 distortions in the different sessions. Maybe we should include it as part
 of our release? In any case, I can send it to you.

 cheers
 Bruce


 On Mon, 30 Nov 2009, Mishkin
 Derakhshan wrote:

 Hi,
 I'm trying to get the surfaces for the colin27 brain that is included
 with the mni packages. Has anyone managed to do this before?

 I thought I would have an easy time given that this linear average of
 27 brains has very good signal to noise and nice contrasts, and even
 though recon-all completes without errors, the surfaces are way off.
 The main problem appears to be the skull stripping.

 My input volume is here:
 http://opus.bic.mni.mcgill.ca/public/colin27_t1_tal_lin.mnc.gz

 These are the steps I took and where I think the problem might be:
 1. gunzip colin27_t1_tal_lin.mnc.gz
 2. recon-all -i colin27_t1_tal_lin.mnc -subjid colin27
 3. tkmedit conlin27 orig/001.mgz
 At this point the image the brightness and contrast levels of the
 image look very washed out. I am hoping this is only a display issue
 and that the underlying intensities of the image are still intact and
 is not a result of something going on in mri_convert, but maybe this
 is what is causing the downstream skull strip to fail. Can someone
 take a look?
 http://opus.bic.mni.mcgill.ca/public/001.mgz
 4. recon-all  -autorecon1 -subjid colin27
 5. tkregister2 --mgz --s colin27 --fstal
 Results are not perfect but reasonable ie. about the same as many
 other runs I've had that have passed so I don't think it is the
 registration.
 6. tkmedit colin27 brainmask.mgz -aux T1.mgz
 It is clear this is where the problem is.
 http://opus.bic.mni.mcgill.ca/public/brainmask.mgz
 http://opus.bic.mni.mcgill.ca/public/T1.mgz
 7. I have subsequently tried:
 recon-all -skullstrip -wsthresh 10 -clean-bm -no-wsgcaatlas -subjid
 colin27 (basically extract the entire head)
 recon-all -skullstrip -wsthresh 5 -clean-bm -no-wsgcaatlas -subjid
 colin27 (basically extracted the entire head)
 recon-all -skullstrip -wsthresh 5 -clean-bm -subjid colin27 (extracted
 the brain, but left large chunks of skull)
 recon-all -skullstrip -wsthresh 2 -clean-bm -subjid colin27 (extracted
 the brain, but left quite a few chunks of skull)

 I'm concerned that the -wsthresh is so low in order to get a
 reasonable result, that's why I think the intensities might be off
 (see step 3).

 I'm re-running -autorecon2/3 now to see if the surfaces are better,
 but if someone could take a look at my input file and the converted
 001.mgz to see if it isn't a problem there it would be much
 appreciated.

 thanks,
 mishkin
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