Re: [Freesurfer] Qdec - ROI - different thickness results

2011-02-28 Thread Alex Hanganu
Thank you very much for the idea Nick,
this explained everything.
In qdec red means XY

we didn't notice the thickness data on that plot at first :(

Have a wonderful week !

Sincerely,
Alex.


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De: Nick Schmansky ni...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Objet: Re: [Freesurfer] Qdec - ROI - different thickness results
À: Alex Hanganu hanganu.alexan...@yahoo.de
Cc: FS Mailing List Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Date: Dimanche 27 février 2011, 0h28

the easiest way to determine X from Y and blue from red (ie, which group
is getting thicker or thinner) is to Ctrl-right click on a vertex within
the region of interest on the cortex result display.  a plot will appear
showing the raw thickness values for your groups, and which-is-which
should obvious.

n.

On Fri, 2011-02-25 at 15:33 +, Alex Hanganu wrote:
 Dear Freesurfer Experts,
 
 In qdec for question:
 Does the average thickness differ between X and Y
 we received blue colored regions, meaning that thickness for group Y
 is lower then X ?
 
 We created ROIs for each region, and extracted cortical thickness for
 each ROI for each subject using mris_anatomical_stats.
 
 in results: for each ROI, mean cortical thickness of Y group are
 higher then X.
 
 is it a mistake, or the question was misunderstood ?
 
 Sincerely,
 Alex.
 
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[Freesurfer] Postdoctoral Fellowship in multimodal developmental neuroimaging

2011-02-28 Thread Michels Lars
Applications are invited for an 18 month postdoctoral fellowship in the human 
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[Freesurfer] residuals exactly zero

2011-02-28 Thread Lars M. Rimol
Hi,

We have experimented a little with different ways of computing the
p-values in a GLM analysis based on FreeSurfer data.

The way the Matlab reference implementation (fast_fratio.m) handles a
situtation where the residuals are exactly zero, seems to be to set
those vertices to F = 0 and p = 1. Is this correctly understood? Is
this also the case in the underlying C-code?


Thank you!

LMR

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Re: [Freesurfer] residuals exactly zero

2011-02-28 Thread Douglas N Greve
When the residual variance is exactly 0, this is what the matlab code. 
In the C implementation,
  if (glm-rvar  FLT_MIN) glm-rvar = FLT_MIN;

which will have similar results.

doug

Lars M. Rimol wrote:
 Hi,

 We have experimented a little with different ways of computing the
 p-values in a GLM analysis based on FreeSurfer data.

 The way the Matlab reference implementation (fast_fratio.m) handles a
 situtation where the residuals are exactly zero, seems to be to set
 those vertices to F = 0 and p = 1. Is this correctly understood? Is
 this also the case in the underlying C-code?


 Thank you!

 LMR

   

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[Freesurfer] Baseline Offset in Stable 5 funcroi

2011-02-28 Thread Adam Nitenson
Hi Freesurfers,

  When conducting ROI analyses in Stable 5, is there a way to generate
a mean functional baseline offset value within the ROI which can be
used to help calculate percent signal change? This would correspond
to the value from row 4 in the output file generated by
roisummary-sess in Stable 4.

Thanks,

Adam


PS: Here are examples of the commands I've used in Stable 5 to generate
ROI Data:

funcroi-config -analysis SIRP_Stable5 -label LH_16MTH_7v1_DLPFC -roi
MTH_7vFix_DLPFC.roicfg -contrast Cond7vFix -sign abs -thresh 1.3

funcroi-sess -roi MTH_7vFix_DLPFC.roicfg -sf
/cluster/roffman/users/Stable5_PerRun/Subject_Files/16_PreScan_Genotyped_MTH

funcroi-table-sess -roi MTH_7vFix_DLPFC.roicfg -sf
/cluster/roffman/users/Stable5_PerRun/Subject_Files/16_PreScan_Genotyped_MTH
-c Cond7vFix -o /cluster/roffman/users/Stable5_PerRun/DLPFC_ROI_7vFix_MTH



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Re: [Freesurfer] thickness analyse

2011-02-28 Thread Nick Schmansky
wang,

i think having the imported roi thickness data in your qdec.table.dat
file is confusing you.  you should just delete that data from your
qdec.table.dat, keeping just 'fsid' and 'addiction' columns. from
looking at your analysis (which appears you have done everything right),
it is not used anyway, as it appears just the discrete factor
'addiction' was selected in your analysis, which is the right thing to
do for a straightforward two-group analysis.

Your display image doesnt show insula, so i cant say whether the effect
would survive multiple corrections (there is an option to run this in
qdec), but your highlighted vertex has a log-p of -3.7, which is a p of
0.002 for that vertex.

The roi data that you imported is the average thickness value for that
roi for that subject prior to any kind of statistical analysis
(freesurfer recon-all automatically creates rois in the cortical
parcellation stage).  generally you would use those outside of
freesurfer in another analysis package.  you can import them into qdec
and select them in an analysis if you wanted to conduct some rather
unusual analyses, like asking does the thickness of the roi 'entorhinal'
affect overall cortical thickness? (which can be a good question for
aging research, but in general is kind of unusual).

n.


On Mon, 2011-02-28 at 17:19 +0800, 汪贵宏 wrote:
 Dear all,
 
 I try to analysis the thickness difference between the patient vs.
 control for several days, but I fail to explain the results.Although I
 had read the wiki on the website,it not works for me.
 Here,I list the procedures which I took for my study,I really hope
 somebody can help me.
 My research is to analysis the thickness difference between the
 control vs.patient which are addicted on the internet.
 
 Firstly,as the papers says,FREESURFER divided each cortex hemisphere
 into 33 areas,but why did there has only one thickness value per
 area?there is the thickness information for all of controls and
 patients in the first file which I add in the appendix.
 Secondly,why did the thicknesses are not in the same value for the
 same area between the qdec.table.dat (in the first appendix)and which
 in the first picture in the appendix below?
 Thirdly,the detail steps I took in the qdec are also list in the
 appendix pictures,is it right? 
 
 Thanks a lot.
 
 Sincerely,
 wang
 
 
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Re: [Freesurfer] win xp shared drives

2011-02-28 Thread Saad Ramadan
Hi,

I have recently installed freesurfer 5.0.0 on top of a Xubuntu Linux
distribution on an virtualBox/WIN XP computer.
I can run freesurfer without a problem.

My problem is with accessing Host drives from linux system. How am I going
to get the image data to my linux virtual system if I cannot access host USB
drives from my guest linux system?
I looked on your archives and found nothing on shared drives.

Your help is appreciated.

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Re: [Freesurfer] win xp shared drives

2011-02-28 Thread Nick Schmansky
saad,

i dont have the information directly on-hand, but in your virtual box
configuration (independent of freesurfer) there should be an option to
map a USB drive into the linux virtual machine.  others have done this
successfully.  you'd have to google the help docs for your virtual box
to learn about this (or maybe someone on this list will respond).

n.

On Mon, 2011-02-28 at 12:01 -0500, Saad Ramadan wrote:
 Hi,
 
 
 I have recently installed freesurfer 5.0.0 on top of a Xubuntu Linux
 distribution on an virtualBox/WIN XP computer.
 I can run freesurfer without a problem.
 
 
 My problem is with accessing Host drives from linux system. How am I
 going to get the image data to my linux virtual system if I cannot
 access host USB drives from my guest linux system?
 I looked on your archives and found nothing on shared drives.
 
 
 Your help is appreciated.
 
 
 Thanks
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[Freesurfer] NIFTI-2 public announcement

2011-02-28 Thread Douglas N Greve
FYI

_*
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_*
_*
_*A 64-bit update to the NIfTI format*_
*_
*_
*_
*_

The NIfTI committee are proposing the creation of a NIfTI-2 format that 
is a very simple extension of the current NIfTI-1 format, but updated to 
allow 64-bit storage and addressing for large images and matrices.  
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It is intended that this format:
 - will enable the storage of large images and matrices, with all 
dimensions being coded by 64-bit integers rather than the current 
limitation of 16-bit signed integers (which currently gives a 
restrictive 32767 size limit in each dimension)
 - will be very simple to implement and update software (a couple of 
hours coding or less generally)
 - contains the same information as a NIfTI-1 file (no new fields and 
all current fields still retained)
 - will support the existing file formats and naming: a .nii 
single-file, a .hdr/.img file-pair and their gzipped versions
 - has a very simple test (see below) to determine if the file is 
NIfTI-1 or NIfTI-2
 - does not replace NIfTI-1 in the short term but is supported alongside it

*_Comments_*
This announcement is intended for public comment.
Please post any comments on this NIfTI-2 proposal to the NITRC 
discussion list (www.nitrc.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=1941 
http://www.nitrc.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=1941)
We ask that comments relating to larger-scale changes and requests for 
other types of format change be posted instead to a separate NITRC 
discussion list for more advanced neuroimaging formats 
(www.nitrc.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=1942 
http://www.nitrc.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=1942)
_*
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_*Supporting software*_
 - AFNI, BrainVoyager, Caret, Fiswidgets, FreeSurfer, FSL, ITK, 
LONI-DIRAC, MRIcron, NiBabel and SPM have all agreed to support the 
NIfTI-2 version in their upcoming releases, but that NIfTI-1 will remain 
a default output, or a configurable default, in the short-term
 - the sourceforge supporting libraries in niftilib will be updated so 
that they seemlessly support both NIfTI-1 and NIfTI-2
 - conversion utilities to and from NIfTI-1 will be made available via 
sourceforge as well as in some of the software packages mentioned above

_*Changes to the header
*_The changes to the NIfTI header structure are the following:
   - short dim[8] becomes int64_t dim[8]
   - float intent_p1 becomes double intent_p1
   - float intent_p2 becomes double intent_p2
   - float intent_p3 becomes double intent_p3
   - float pixdim[8] becomes double pixdim[8]
   - float vox_offset becomes int64_t vox_offset
   - float scl_slope becomes double scl_slope
   - float scl_inter becomes double scl_inter
   - float cal_max becomes double cal_max
   - float cal_min becomes double cal_min
   - float slice_duration becomes double slice_duration
   - float toffset becomes double toffset
   - float quatern_b becomes double quatern_b
and similarly 
for quatern_c, quatern_d, qoffset_x, qoffset_y, qoffset_z
   - float srow_x[4] becomes double srow_x[4]
and similarly for srow_y[4], srow_z[4]
   - char magic[4] becomes char magic[8]
   - char unused_str[12] is added after char magic[8]
The order, size and type of all other fields remains unchanged.
The sizeof_hdr must store 556 for a NIfTI-2 file instead of 348 for NIfTI-1.
Extension information is still held in the first 4 bytes after this 
header (bytes 557-560) in the same way as in NIfTI-1.
Note that the total block size of 560 (header + 4 bytes) retains the 
16-byte alignment in NIfTI-1 (348+4=352), as needed for convenient 
memory-mapping.
The changes of float to double are generally made to allow for more 
accurate mapping of intensities or indices when dealing with very large 
arrays, and unused_str is added to ensure the 16-byte alignment holds.

_*Compatibility*_
This format is not, and cannot be, bit-wise compatible with the previous 
NIfTI-1 (or ANALYZE) formats and so will not work with existing NIfTI-1 
software directly. In the short term this can be solved via conversion 
utilities. A NIfTI-2 image will not be recognised as a valid NIfTI-1 
image by existing software and so no incorrect processing or analyses 
should occur. In the longer term most code should be very easily 
converted to work with both NIfTI-2 and NIfTI-1 by using the updated 
sourceforge libraries or making equivalent changes internally.  The 
change in format is intentionally very minimal and should be very easy 
to code.

*_Determining the NIfTI version_*
The following pseudo-code shows how a file can be tested to see: (a) if 
it is a NIfTI image file, (b) what version of NIfTI it is, and (c) 
whether byte-swapping is required.

read in the first 4 bytes from the file
let d = the content of these bytes, formatted as a 32-bit int
if (d==348) then it is a NIfTI-1 file, no byte-swapping required
else if (swap_4bytes(d)==348) then it is a NIfTI-1 file, but with 
byte-swapping required
else if (d==556) then it is a NIfTI-2 file, no byte-swapping required
else if (swap_4bytes(d)==556) then it is a