[Freesurfer] tracula -bedp - path

2011-10-07 Thread Judit Haasz


Hi,

I ran into 2 problems related to tracula.

1. trac-all -bedp command exits with following message.

 WARN: Running FSL's bedbost locally - this might take a while

   WARN: It is recommended to run this step on a cluster
   bedpostx_seychelles /usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/C001/dmri
   subjectdir is /usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/C001/dmri
   Making bedpostx directory structure
   Queuing preprocessing stages
   [: 223: NONE: unexpected operator
   [: 314: NONE: unexpected operator
   [: 327: xbedpostx_pre: unexpected operator
   [: 486: x: unexpected operator
   [: 486: -le: argument expected
   Queuing parallel processing stage
   [: 223: NONE: unexpected operator
   [: 327: xbedpostx: unexpected operator
   [: 486: x53: unexpected operator
   0 slices processed
   Queuing post processing stage
   [: 223: NONE: unexpected operator
   [: 314: NONE: unexpected operator
   [: 327: xbedpostx_post: unexpected operator
   [: 486: x: unexpected operator
   [: 486: -le: argument expected
 



This problem has been posted in May and June. bedpostx from command line 
runs perfectly and that is how I have been running it so far. One of u 
suggested to try the following:


/usr/local/fsl/bin/bedpostx_single_slice.sh 
/disks/open/judit/subjects/diffusion_tutorial/dtisubjects2005/subj_523/dmri 
2 1 1000 1250 25 1 0


then I got:

** ERROR (nifti_image_read): failed to find header file for 
'/disks/open/judit/subjects/diffusion_tutorial/dtisubjects2005/subj_523/dmri/data_slice_'
** ERROR: 
nifti_image_open(/disks/open/judit/subjects/diffusion_tutorial/dtisubjects2005/subj_523/dmri/data_slice_): 
bad header info
ERROR: failed to open file 
/disks/open/judit/subjects/diffusion_tutorial/dtisubjects2005/subj_523/dmri/data_slice_
ERROR: Could not open image 
/disks/open/judit/subjects/diffusion_tutorial/dtisubjects2005/subj_523/dmri/data_slice_
Image Exception : #22 :: Failed to read volume 
/disks/open/judit/subjects/diffusion_tutorial/dtisubjects2005/subj_523/dmri/data_slice_


An exception has been thrown
Failed to read volume 
/disks/open/judit/subjects/diffusion_tutorial/dtisubjects2005/subj_523/dmri/data_slice_Trace: 
read_volume4DROI.


Done

Can u suggest a reason behind all this? This happens on Linux machine 
(2.6.35-28-generic #50-Ubuntu 10.10, x86_64, Java VM Version: Java 
1.6.0_17-b04 with Sun Microsystems Inc. Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server 
VM mixed mode).
On Mac OS X (version 10.7.1 - Lion, 2 x 2.66 GHz 6-core Intel Xeon 
processors, 32 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 RAM) trac-all -bedp runs well.


My other question is:
trac-all -path exists with error (in case of a single subject):

Loading DWIs from 
/disks/open/judit/subjects/diffusion_tutorial/dtisubjects2005/subj_501/dmri/dwi.nii.gz
Loading mask from 
/disks/open/judit/subjects/diffusion_tutorial/dtisubjects2005/subj_501/dlabel/diff/aparc+aseg_mask.bbr.nii.gz
Loading BEDPOST parameter samples from 
/disks/open/judit/subjects/diffusion_tutorial/dtisubjects2005/subj_501/dmri.bedpostX
Loading segmentation map from 
/disks/open/judit/subjects/diffusion_tutorial/dtisubjects2005/subj_501/dlabel/mni/aparc+aseg.nii.gz
Loading b-values from 
/disks/open/judit/subjects/diffusion_tutorial/dtisubjects2005/subj_501/dmri/bvals
Loading gradients from 
/disks/open/judit/subjects/diffusion_tutorial/dtisubjects2005/subj_501/dmri/bvecs

Segmentation fault
Linux Odd 2.6.35-28-generic #50-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 18 18:42:20 UTC 2011 
x86_64 GNU/Linux


trac-paths exited with ERRORS at Fri Oct  7 10:21:20 CEST 2011

thanks for help.
Judit



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Re: [Freesurfer] warped flat occip patches and fieldsign maps

2011-10-07 Thread Bruce Fischl

Hi Michelle,

the  odd shaped shards and triangles usually means you recreated the 
surfaces after flattening, so the flattening needs to be redone. The swirls 
can be a number of things, possibly incorrect cuts. If you want to upload 
an example I'll take a look.


cheers
Bruce


On Thu, 6 Oct 2011, Michelle Umali 
wrote:



Dear freesurfers,
I've been analyzing my retinotopy , have finally been able to run
fieldsign-sess without running into dimension mismatch errors.

Everything seemed ok until I tried looking at the fieldsign maps on flat
patches.  Some patches are warped with odd out of plane swirls.  In others,
all i get are odd shaped shards and triangles.

What might be the cause?

thanks,
Michelle

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[Freesurfer] question about contrast file during group analysis with command line

2011-10-07 Thread ZhiLiangLong
Hi all :
 I'm performing general linear model (GLM) analysis in the surface,the 
attachments above are FSGD file  and contrast files(the last three 
attachments).i wonder if my contrast files are correct.
the attachment named diff-C-H-thickness.txt is about difference between C 
and H and the last two are about difference between C and p and difference 
between P and H,Here,C  H and P represent three groups
 
   Any suggestions appreciatedGroupDescriptorFile  1 
 
Title  genderage 
 
MeasurementName  thickness 
 
Class  C-Male 
 
Class  C-Female 
 
Class  P-Male 
 
Class  P-Female 
 
Class  H-Male 
 
Class  H-Female 
 
Variables age 
 
Input   chen_haoC-Female20 
Input   cui_xi_long C-Female23 
Input   jiang_xue   C-Female24 
Input   li_qing_jingC-Female24 
Input   li_ru   C-Male  22 
Input   li_teng_yu  C-Male  21 
Input   liao_yun_feng   C-Male  24 
Input   long_hu C-Male  29 
Input   long_zhiC-Male  26 
Input   lv_hai_long C-Male  23 
Input   peng_chend  C-Male  24 
Input   yue_zhong_wei   C-Male  22 
Input   zhang_qian  C-Male  25 
Input   zhao_ke C-Male  27 
Input   zhu_min C-Male  21 
Input   cai_rongP-Female23 
Input   chen_guo_wu P-Male  23 
Input   huang_din_qiang P-Male  22 
Input   kong_fang_fang  P-Female24 
Input   li_guang_yaoP-Male  24 
Input   liu_zheng_hua   P-Male  26 
Input   long_binP-Male  29 
Input   qiu_hao P-Male  21 
Input   quan_su_bin P-Male  22 
Input   wu_jian_nongP-Male  25 
Input   wu_li_hui   P-Female20 
Input   xiao_qiao_ling  P-Female24 
Input   xie_gangP-Male  21 
Input   xu_xian P-Male  24 
Input   zhang_hai_tao   P-Male  27 
Input   chen_guo_wenH-Male  23 
Input   chen_hong_liang H-Male  24 
Input   chen_lu_hua H-Female24 
Input   kong_san_jian   H-Male  21 
Input   li_you_quan H-Male  21 
Input   liu_bin H-Male  25 
Input   long_feng_boH-Male  27 
Input   qiu_yi  H-Male  24 
Input   tan_zhi_hui H-Male  22 
Input   wu_xiao_jun H-Male  29 
Input   wu_yao  H-Female20 
Input   xiao_zhi_ping   H-Female23 
Input   xie_yi_long H-Female24 
Input   zhi_hui_tao H-Male  26 
Input   zhou_wei_huaH-Male  22
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Re: [Freesurfer] tracula -bedp - path

2011-10-07 Thread Anastasia Yendiki


Hi Judit,

1. If you can run bedpostx directly then you should do:
bedpostx /usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/C001/dmri

Note that this dmri directory and the one you tried to run 
bedpostx_single_slice.sh on are different, so I'm not sure which location 
is the right one where your data is, but in any case you don't need to run 
bedpostx_single_slice.sh.


2. The error seems to occur either when it's reading the bvecs file, or 
right after that when it's accessing the bedpostx outputs. So I'd try to 
look those for that subject and see if everything is ok.


Hope this helps,
a.y

On Fri, 7 Oct 2011, Judit Haasz wrote:



Hi,

I ran into 2 problems related to tracula.

1. trac-all -bedp command exits with following message.

 WARN: Running FSL's bedbost locally - this might take a while
  WARN: It is recommended to run this step on a cluster
  bedpostx_seychelles /usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/C001/dmri
  subjectdir is /usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/C001/dmri
  Making bedpostx directory structure
  Queuing preprocessing stages
  [: 223: NONE: unexpected operator
  [: 314: NONE: unexpected operator
  [: 327: xbedpostx_pre: unexpected operator
  [: 486: x: unexpected operator
  [: 486: -le: argument expected
  Queuing parallel processing stage
  [: 223: NONE: unexpected operator
  [: 327: xbedpostx: unexpected operator
  [: 486: x53: unexpected operator
  0 slices processed
  Queuing post processing stage
  [: 223: NONE: unexpected operator
  [: 314: NONE: unexpected operator
  [: 327: xbedpostx_post: unexpected operator
  [: 486: x: unexpected operator
  [: 486: -le: argument expected
 

This problem has been posted in May and June. bedpostx from command line
runs perfectly and that is how I have been running it so far. One of u
suggested to try the following:

/usr/local/fsl/bin/bedpostx_single_slice.sh/disks/open/judit/subjects/diffusion_tutorial/dtisubjects2005/subj_523/dmri
2 1 1000 1250 25 1 0

then I got:

** ERROR (nifti_image_read): failed to find header file 
for'/disks/open/judit/subjects/diffusion_tutorial/dtisubjects2005/subj_523/dmr
i/data_slice_'
** 
ERROR:nifti_image_open(/disks/open/judit/subjects/diffusion_tutorial/dtisubjects2
005/subj_523/dmri/data_slice_): bad header info
ERROR: failed to open 
file/disks/open/judit/subjects/diffusion_tutorial/dtisubjects2005/subj_523/dmri
/data_slice_
ERROR: Could not open 
image/disks/open/judit/subjects/diffusion_tutorial/dtisubjects2005/subj_523/dmri
/data_slice_
Image Exception : #22 :: Failed to read 
volume/disks/open/judit/subjects/diffusion_tutorial/dtisubjects2005/subj_523/dmri
/data_slice_

An exception has been thrown
Failed to read 
volume/disks/open/judit/subjects/diffusion_tutorial/dtisubjects2005/subj_523/dmri
/data_slice_Trace: read_volume4DROI.

Done

Can u suggest a reason behind all this? This happens on Linux machine
(2.6.35-28-generic #50-Ubuntu 10.10, x86_64, Java VM Version: Java
1.6.0_17-b04 with Sun Microsystems Inc. Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM
mixed mode).
On Mac OS X (version 10.7.1 - Lion, 2 x 2.66 GHz 6-core Intel Xeon
processors, 32 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 RAM) trac-all -bedp runs well.

My other question is:
trac-all -path exists with error (in case of a single subject):

Loading DWIs 
from/disks/open/judit/subjects/diffusion_tutorial/dtisubjects2005/subj_501/dmri
/dwi.nii.gz
Loading mask 
from/disks/open/judit/subjects/diffusion_tutorial/dtisubjects2005/subj_501/dlab
el/diff/aparc+aseg_mask.bbr.nii.gz
Loading BEDPOST parameter samples 
from/disks/open/judit/subjects/diffusion_tutorial/dtisubjects2005/subj_501/dmri
.bedpostX
Loading segmentation map 
from/disks/open/judit/subjects/diffusion_tutorial/dtisubjects2005/subj_501/dlab
el/mni/aparc+aseg.nii.gz
Loading b-values 
from/disks/open/judit/subjects/diffusion_tutorial/dtisubjects2005/subj_501/dmri
/bvals
Loading gradients 
from/disks/open/judit/subjects/diffusion_tutorial/dtisubjects2005/subj_501/dmri
/bvecs
Segmentation fault 
Linux Odd 2.6.35-28-generic #50-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 18 18:42:20 UTC 2011
x86_64 GNU/Linux

trac-paths exited with ERRORS at Fri Oct  7 10:21:20 CEST 2011

thanks for help.
Judit




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[Freesurfer] Resampling NIFTI images

2011-10-07 Thread Antonella Kis


Dear FreeSurfers,

This is a question I posted yesterday and I got not answer yet. I am trying to 
re-sample a NIFTI image (obtained after MRIcron conversion, from a dcm image) 
in Freesurfer with a scale factor of 2.
I know about mri_convert with the option -rt but this doesn't give me any 
option for the scale factor (for e.g. I want to drop each second slice from my 
NIFTI image). Any suggestion will be greatly appreciated.


Thank you.
AK
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Re: [Freesurfer] Resampling NIFTI images

2011-10-07 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Antonella,

this would be pretty easy to do in matlab I guess. Why do you want to do 
it? Do you really just want to drop every other slice? Do you want to 
change the in-plane resolution?

Bruce


On Fri, 7 Oct 2011, 
Antonella Kis wrote:

 
 Dear FreeSurfers,
 
 This is a question I posted yesterday and I got not answer yet. I am trying
 to re-sample a NIFTI image (obtained after MRIcron conversion, from a dcm
 image) in Freesurfer with a scale factor of 2.
 I know about mri_convert with the option -rt but this doesn't give me any
 option for the scale factor (for e.g. I want to drop each second slice from
 my NIFTI image). Any suggestion will be greatly appreciated.
 
 Thank you.
 AK
 
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[Freesurfer] Process monkey data

2011-10-07 Thread Pedro Paulo de Magalhães Oliveira Junior
I have data from 100 monkeys and I need to compare cortical thickness
among two groups.

In the wiki page there is an entry MonkeyData that has a set of
scripts which break-down the steps needed, unfortunately I'm having
trouble with this scripts and FS 5.1

Are there an updated version of those procedures?

Thanks

PPJ

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Re: [Freesurfer] Process monkey data

2011-10-07 Thread Sebastian Moeller
Hi Pedro,


On Oct 7, 2011, at 9:02 , Pedro Paulo de Magalhães Oliveira Junior wrote:

 I have data from 100 monkeys and I need to compare cortical thickness
 among two groups.
 
 In the wiki page there is an entry MonkeyData that has a set of
 scripts which break-down the steps needed, unfortunately I'm having
 trouble with this scripts and FS 5.1

I was somewhat involved with these scripts in the past, I only used 
them with 4.5 so far, therefore I do not know what issues you encounter, care 
to elaborate what causes the trouble? (BTW the old monkey pipeline will fake 
the resolution information in the volume headers so Freesurfer sees 1mm 
isotropic and does not go and resamples the data to 1mm, at least for macaques 
and smaller monkeys that would throw away too much information in my opinion 
(don't know for apes...)). So if you use these scripts for morphometry keep in 
mind that all length measurements are off by 1/real_isotropic_voxel_size, area 
and volume are therefore off as well; but then this can be easily corrected for 
I think... 
Now, I hope some other monkey people can chime in and share their 
improved freesurfer pipeline :)


Best
Sebastian


 
 Are there an updated version of those procedures?
 
 Thanks
 
 PPJ
 
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[Freesurfer] cwp and QDEC scale

2011-10-07 Thread Antonella Kis




Hi,



I would appreciate if you can help me with the following question: what should 
be the range values on the  QDEC and/or GLM  color scale if the cwp values for 
the cached clusters at thresh 2 and cwpvalthresh .99 are between 0.4465 and 
0.9710? Also, I wonder if there is a way in QDEC to extract the data from the 
Display window without running the simulation option. 


Many thanks.
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[Freesurfer] Cut plane feature in tksurfer

2011-10-07 Thread Jodie Davies-Thompson

Dear FreeSurfers,

I am following the cut plane steps on the freesurfer wiki 
(http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FreeSurferOccipitalFlattenedPatch). 
I marked a closed areas, press the 'cut closed line' button, left-click 
in the area, and then press the 'fill uncut area' button. Upon clicking 
this last button, tksurfer crashes and the below error appears.


tksurfer.bin: tnl/t_vertex.c:407: update_input_ptrs: Assertion
`a[j].inputstride == vptr-stride' failed.
Abort

I've seen two other posts with the same problem (links below), but no 
solution. Can anyone advise on this?


Regards,
Jodie

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[Freesurfer] retinotopy analysis description

2011-10-07 Thread Michelle Umali
Dear Freesurfers,
I am trying to describe how freesurfer conducts it's retinotopy analysis to
make the polar, eccen and fieldsign maps.
Is there a detailed description of this somewhere?  I can't seem to find an
indepth description on the wiki.

Thanks.
Michelle
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[Freesurfer] Table for aparc+aseg

2011-10-07 Thread Shigetoshi Takaya
Dear FreeSurfers,

In aparc+aseg file, each segmented or parceled region seems to be labeled by
its own intensity (e.g. the intensity is 53 in the right hippocampus, 10 in
the left thalamus...) when I see it on FSL viewer. 

Where can I find the table that shows the relationship between the intensity
and the name of brain region? I want to extract the specific brain regions
(e.g. parahippocampal gyrus, fusiform gyrus...) from the result of
aparc+aseg, and use them for the seed mask or the termination mask in
structural connectivity analysis (tractography).

I appreciate your help.

Thank you,
Shige

 

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Re: [Freesurfer] Table for aparc+aseg

2011-10-07 Thread Anastasia Yendiki

Hi Shige - See $FREESURFER_HOME/FreeSurferColorLUT.txt.

a.y

On Fri, 7 Oct 2011, Shigetoshi Takaya wrote:

 Dear FreeSurfers,

 In aparc+aseg file, each segmented or parceled region seems to be labeled by
 its own intensity (e.g. the intensity is 53 in the right hippocampus, 10 in
 the left thalamus...) when I see it on FSL viewer.

 Where can I find the table that shows the relationship between the intensity
 and the name of brain region? I want to extract the specific brain regions
 (e.g. parahippocampal gyrus, fusiform gyrus...) from the result of
 aparc+aseg, and use them for the seed mask or the termination mask in
 structural connectivity analysis (tractography).

 I appreciate your help.

 Thank you,
 Shige



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[Freesurfer] What kind of data could be processed by FreeSurfer

2011-10-07 Thread Jie Shi
I am using recon-all command to process some analyze images. But it seems
that this command does not work for all .img images. For example, I have an
image with the following information:

256x256x124
0.7mm x 0.7mm x 1.5mm
data type: uint8
description:
position:000
file orientation:
1 0 0
0 1 0
0 0 1

working orientation:
1 0 0
0 1 0
0 0 1

Will the dimension, resolution, and data type all matter in the process?
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Re: [Freesurfer] What kind of data could be processed by FreeSurfer

2011-10-07 Thread Bruce Fischl

Hi Jie,

it should be ok. We typically don't recommend this type of french fry 
voxel with one dimension beting almost 4 times as long as the others. You 
are usually better off getting closer to isotropic. That said, if the SNR 
is good enough try giving it to recon-all. One thing to be wary of though 
is the orientation. Do you have a .mat file to go with the .hdr/.img? 
Otherwise you won't be able to tell left from right. Can you get them in 
some other format, such as nifti?


cheers
Bruce


On Fri, 7 Oct 2011, Jie Shi wrote:


I am using recon-all command to process some analyze images. But it seems
that this command does not work for all .img images. For example, I have an
image with the following information:

256x256x124
0.7mm x 0.7mm x 1.5mm
data type: uint8
description:
position:0    0    0
file orientation:
1 0 0
0 1 0
0 0 1

working orientation:
1 0 0
0 1 0
0 0 1

Will the dimension, resolution, and data type all matter in the process?

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[Freesurfer] normalised functional volumetric data to fsaverage

2011-10-07 Thread Ritobrato Datta
Hi All,

I have some functional beta maps normalised to the T1 template using spm8 and I 
am wondering how to map them onto the fsaverage surface ? 

In native subject space, I pipe a functional scout image into bbregister to get 
a registration matrix which is then used to map volumetric beta maps to native 
freesurfer surface and fsaverage surface.

How do I do this with the normalised functional data ?

Thanks

Ri

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Re: [Freesurfer] warped flat occip patches and fieldsign maps

2011-10-07 Thread Michelle Umali
Hi Bruce,
I've uploaded a tar file called umali_fieldsign_swirl.

It contains two directories one anatomical and the other retinotopy both
from the same subject 29:
ld29 which contains the recon-all output anatomical data
sj29 which contains all the retinotopy data.  the subjectfilename says ld29

The fieldsign map on the flattened patch has some out-of-plane swirls.

Is it from incorrect cuts or something else?

Thanks.
Michelle


On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 8:32 AM, Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.eduwrote:

 Hi Michelle,

 the  odd shaped shards and triangles usually means you recreated the
 surfaces after flattening, so the flattening needs to be redone. The swirls
 can be a number of things, possibly incorrect cuts. If you want to upload an
 example I'll take a look.

 cheers
 Bruce



 On Thu, 6 Oct 2011, Michelle Umali wrote:

  Dear freesurfers,
 I've been analyzing my retinotopy , have finally been able to run
 fieldsign-sess without running into dimension mismatch errors.

 Everything seemed ok until I tried looking at the fieldsign maps on flat
 patches.  Some patches are warped with odd out of plane swirls.  In
 others,
 all i get are odd shaped shards and triangles.

 What might be the cause?

 thanks,
 Michelle




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Re: [Freesurfer] normalised functional volumetric data to fsaverage

2011-10-07 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Ri

if you have them on the surface using the bbregister registration you can 
use mri_surf2surf to map them to fsaverage (or any other subject).

cheers
Bruce
On Fri, 7 
Oct 2011, Ritobrato Datta wrote:

 Hi All,

 I have some functional beta maps normalised to the T1 template using spm8 and 
 I am wondering how to map them onto the fsaverage surface ?

 In native subject space, I pipe a functional scout image into bbregister to 
 get a registration matrix which is then used to map volumetric beta maps to 
 native freesurfer surface and fsaverage surface.

 How do I do this with the normalised functional data ?

 Thanks

 Ri

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