[Freesurfer] WM of lobes

2013-01-17 Thread Gabriel Gonzalez Escamilla
Dear freesurfersI'm trying to get the WM parcellation by lobes, I have read some previous FS archives regarding a similar topic, but they only want the volume value, and I'm interested in a WM lobes parcellation in mgz format (like aseg.mgz ), and I'm also interested in knowing if is possible to obtain this lobar parcellation for only cortical WM. Many thanks in advanced,Gabriel
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Re: [Freesurfer] nu_correct problem (fwd)

2013-01-17 Thread Louis Nicholas Vinke

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Subject: Re: Re: [Freesurfer] nu_correct problem


Hallo, I use VB Ubuntu on standard PC machine downloaded from Freesurfer web 
page

(freesurfer-Virtualbox-linux-x86-stable-pub-v5.1.0-full.vdi, Documentation)

 

I´ll send recon-all.log file later on I have it on another PC.

 

Orig.mgz file  - thats also problem. What I did: when running recon-all -subjid 
name -autorecon1 I get
error: no /mri/orig/orig.mgz file. I looked into patients /mri directory and 
this path and file is
not there. So that I created directory /orig in /mri and copied there converted 
patient.mgz file there
and renamed it to orig.mgz. So that I have /subject/patient/mri/orig/orig.mgz. 
Maybe thats what is
wrong? How do you get normally orig.mgz file?

 

Thanks, Petr

 


 

-- Původní zpráva --
Od: Louis Nicholas Vinke vi...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Datum: 16. 1. 2013
Předmět: Re: [Freesurfer] nu_correct problem


  Hi Petr,
  Can you provide us with some more details? Which version of FreeSurfer
  are you using and on what platform? Could you attach a copy of the
  recon-all.log file for one of these cases so we can read the full error
  reported?

  Have you tried looking at the orig.mgz which is generated prior to the
  mri_nu_correct.mni step to see if it looks reasonable?
  -Louis

  On Wed, 16 Jan 2013, zach.p...@post.cz wrote:

  
  
   Dear members,
  
   when I run recon_all -subjid name -autorecon1 process stops with ERROR 
at nu_correct. This
  happens for
   DICOM but also IMA file type. I tried several brains. Do you have any 
idea what is wrong?
  
   Thanks much, Petr Zach
  
  
  


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Re: [Freesurfer] nu_correct problem (fwd)

2013-01-17 Thread Louis Nicholas Vinke

Hi Petr,
Try renaming /subject/patient/mri/orig/orig.mgz to 
/subject/patient/mri/orig/001.mgz and rerunning recon-all.  The orig.mgz 
file is created later on in the recon-all stream.

-Louis

On Thu, 17 Jan 2013, Louis Nicholas Vinke wrote:


Please remember to cc the list.

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 11:07:43 +0100 (CET)
From: zach.p...@post.cz
To: Louis Nicholas Vinke vi...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Subject: Re: Re: [Freesurfer] nu_correct problem


Hallo, I use VB Ubuntu on standard PC machine downloaded from Freesurfer web 
page


(freesurfer-Virtualbox-linux-x86-stable-pub-v5.1.0-full.vdi, Documentation)

 

I´ll send recon-all.log file later on I have it on another PC.

 

Orig.mgz file  - thats also problem. What I did: when running recon-all 
-subjid name -autorecon1 I get
error: no /mri/orig/orig.mgz file. I looked into patients /mri directory 
and this path and file is
not there. So that I created directory /orig in /mri and copied there 
converted patient.mgz file there
and renamed it to orig.mgz. So that I have 
/subject/patient/mri/orig/orig.mgz. Maybe thats what is

wrong? How do you get normally orig.mgz file?

 

Thanks, Petr

 


 

-- Původní zpráva --
Od: Louis Nicholas Vinke vi...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Datum: 16. 1. 2013
Předmět: Re: [Freesurfer] nu_correct problem


 Hi Petr,
 Can you provide us with some more details? Which version of FreeSurfer
 are you using and on what platform? Could you attach a copy of the
 recon-all.log file for one of these cases so we can read the full error
 reported?

 Have you tried looking at the orig.mgz which is generated prior to the
 mri_nu_correct.mni step to see if it looks reasonable?
 -Louis

 On Wed, 16 Jan 2013, zach.p...@post.cz wrote:

 
 
  Dear members,
 
  when I run recon_all -subjid name -autorecon1 process stops with 
ERROR at nu_correct. This

 happens for
  DICOM but also IMA file type. I tried several brains. Do you have any 
idea what is wrong?

 
  Thanks much, Petr Zach
 
 
 


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[Freesurfer] pial not computing

2013-01-17 Thread Borzello, Mia
Hi Freesurfers,

I just ran a recon, and it seems that only  the lh.pial computed, but not the 
rh.pial. What would be the cause of this?
Thanks,
m

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Re: [Freesurfer] pial not computing

2013-01-17 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Mia

we need to see the recon-all.log. Did it end with an error?
Bruce
On Thu, 17 Jan 
2013, Borzello, Mia wrote:

 Hi Freesurfers,

 I just ran a recon, and it seems that only  the lh.pial computed, but not the 
 rh.pial. What would be the cause of this?
 Thanks,
 m

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Re: [Freesurfer] WM of lobes

2013-01-17 Thread Douglas N Greve

You will need to create an annotation of the lobes (use 
mri_annotation2label --lobesStrict, or define your own). Then run 
mri_aparc2aseg with the --labelwm option. You can look in a 
recon-all.log for the other command options

doug


On 01/17/2013 07:54 AM, Gabriel Gonzalez Escamilla wrote:
 Dear freesurfers

 I'm trying to get the WM parcellation by lobes, I have read some 
 previous FS archives regarding a similar topic, but they only want the 
 volume value, and I'm interested in a WM lobes parcellation in mgz 
 format (like aseg.mgz ), and I'm also interested in knowing if is 
 possible to obtain this lobar parcellation for only cortical WM.


 Many thanks in advanced,
 Gabriel


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Re: [Freesurfer] pial not computing

2013-01-17 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Mia

this is fixed in the newest version. You can grab a new mris_topo_fixer 
and you rerun and it should be all set. You probably should take a look 
at the ?h.orig.nofix to make sure it's reasonable (meaning no cerebellum 
or skull attached, and the hemispherees successfully separated)

cheers
Bruce
On Thu, 17 
Jan 2013, Borzello, Mia wrote:

 Okay, so it didn't complete without error. I've attached the recon-all.log. 
 Also, I was using another post op patient's MRI scans. 

 thanks so much, 
 m
 
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 [freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] on behalf of Bruce Fischl 
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 Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 11:22 AM
 To: Borzello, Mia
 Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] pial not computing

 Hi Mia

 we need to see the recon-all.log. Did it end with an error?
 Bruce
 On Thu, 17 Jan
 2013, Borzello, Mia wrote:

 Hi Freesurfers,

 I just ran a recon, and it seems that only  the lh.pial computed, but not 
 the rh.pial. What would be the cause of this?
 Thanks,
 m

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[Freesurfer] long_mris_slopes / mris_calc problem

2013-01-17 Thread O'Shea,Andrew
Hello Freesurfer experts,
I am working on a study that wants to compare pre/post cortical thickness on an 
intervention group and a control group. I am using FS 5.1 on a Mac. I have 
processed all the recons through the longitudinal stream as described in the 
wiki/tutorial. However when I go to prepare the data using this command:

long_mris_slopes --qdec ./qdec/long.qdec.table.dat --meas thickness --hemi lh 
--do-avg --do-rate --do-pc1 --do-spc --do-stack --do-label --time years 
--qcache fsaverage

It seems to run fine at first but after a minute or so it hits this command and 
crashes:
mris_calc -o 
/Applications/freesurfer/subjects/SPIN073/surf/lh.long.thickness-spc.fwhm0.mgh 
./tmp-SPIN073_lh_thickness_igG3e9/beta1.mgh div 
./tmp-SPIN073_lh_thickness_igG3e9/beta0.mgh

It prints: ERROR 1 : mris_calc compute sym. pct. change (spc) problem?
And then returns to my command prompt.

I searched online and found someone last year asked the same question here:
https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/pipermail//freesurfer/2011-September/020311.html

However the response links to an updated version of mris_calc but when I click 
the link it says I do not have permission the access.

Thanks for any help in advance.
-Andrew
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[Freesurfer] edit or not to edit?

2013-01-17 Thread Miro Drahos

Hi FreeSurfer folks,
we are about to process about 120 images with FS v5.1 and stand in front 
of a decision whether to do manual intervention or use the results from 
fully-automated FS run.


We intend to use the volume, thickness, area, curvature measures of 
subcortical and cortical regions and were hoping to receive some advice 
on this dilemma: /to edit / or/not to edit/?


Our data is decent quality, of healthy children (6-9 years old) and 
adults, acquired on 3T GE scanner, FSPGR sequence, with TI=400ms, 
TR=8.5ms, TE=3.4ms, flip angle=15deg, resolution 0.86 x 0.86 x 1.2mm, 
one scan per subject.


I understand that visual inspection of the results is necessary in 
either case. If there were gross errors detected, would you advise to 
exclude the subject from analysis or rather do manual editing on these 
subjects that need it?


Any and all thoughts or comments that could help us with the decision 
are most appreciated!


Thank you!
Miro Drahos
http://brainlens.org
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[Freesurfer] problem with AutoReco3 mapping

2013-01-17 Thread jonwie...@netzero.net
I did an AutoRecon3 on a brain and when i viewed the results. it failed to 
classify some the tgray and white matter in the left hemisphere. the area 
misses is on the extreme left side of the brain, within 10 mm of the left side 
of the hemisphere. are there some arguments i change change to fix this.


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Re: [Freesurfer] nu_correct problem (fwd)

2013-01-17 Thread zach.petr


Hallo, now I use cc...

Actually I gave you wrong info - I DID rename file patient.mgz to 001.mgz 
and not orig.mgz as I wrote before, sorry.

I attach recon-all.log file with errors from my last run. It is about nu_
correct.

Thanks for help, Petr 
 
 
 
 
 
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Od: Louis Nicholas Vinke vi...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Datum: 17. 1. 2013
Předmět: Re: [Freesurfer] nu_correct problem (fwd)

Hi Petr,
Try renaming /subject/patient/mri/orig/orig.mgz to 
/subject/patient/mri/orig/001.mgz and rerunning recon-all. The orig.mgz 
file is created later on in the recon-all stream.
-Louis

On Thu, 17 Jan 2013, Louis Nicholas Vinke wrote:

 Please remember to cc the list.

 -- Forwarded message --
 Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 11:07:43 +0100 (CET)
 From: zach.p...@post.cz
 To: Louis Nicholas Vinke vi...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Subject: Re: Re: [Freesurfer] nu_correct problem


 Hallo, I use VB Ubuntu on standard PC machine downloaded from Freesurfer 
web 
 page

 (freesurfer-Virtualbox-linux-x86-stable-pub-v5.1.0-full.vdi, 
Documentation)

  

 I´ll send recon-all.log file later on I have it on another PC.

  

 Orig.mgz file  - thats also problem. What I did: when running recon-all 
 -subjid name -autorecon1 I get
 error: no /mri/orig/orig.mgz file. I looked into patients /mri directory 
 and this path and file is
 not there. So that I created directory /orig in /mri and copied there 
 converted patient.mgz file there
 and renamed it to orig.mgz. So that I have 
 /subject/patient/mri/orig/orig.mgz. Maybe thats what is
 wrong? How do you get normally orig.mgz file?

  

 Thanks, Petr

  


  

 -- Původní zpráva --
 Od: Louis Nicholas Vinke vi...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
 Datum: 16. 1. 2013
 Předmět: Re: [Freesurfer] nu_correct problem


 Hi Petr,
 Can you provide us with some more details? Which version of FreeSurfer
 are you using and on what platform? Could you attach a copy of the
 recon-all.log file for one of these cases so we can read the full error
 reported?

 Have you tried looking at the orig.mgz which is generated prior to the
 mri_nu_correct.mni step to see if it looks reasonable?
 -Louis

 On Wed, 16 Jan 2013, zach.p...@post.cz wrote:

 
 
  Dear members,
 
  when I run recon_all -subjid name -autorecon1 process stops with 
 ERROR at nu_correct. This
 happens for
  DICOM but also IMA file type. I tried several brains. Do you have any 
 idea what is wrong?
 
  Thanks much, Petr Zach
 
 
 


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Thu Jan 17 14:40:30 EST 2013
/home/virtualuser/freesurfer/subjects/s
/home/virtualuser/freesurfer/bin/recon-all
-subjid s -autorecon1
subjid s
setenv SUBJECTS_DIR /home/virtualuser/freesurfer/subjects
FREESURFER_HOME /home/virtualuser/freesurfer
Actual FREESURFER_HOME /home/virtualuser/freesurfer
build-stamp.txt: freesurfer-Linux-centos4-stable-pub-v5.1.0
Linux FreeSurfer 2.6.28-11-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 01:57:59 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
cputime  unlimited
filesize unlimited
datasize unlimited
stacksize8192 kbytes
coredumpsize 0 kbytes
memoryuseunlimited
vmemoryuse   unlimited
descriptors  1024 
memorylocked 64 kbytes
maxproc  unlimited

 total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
Mem:458880 306100 152780  0  31844 134440
-/+ buffers/cache: 139816 319064
Swap:   530104  0 530104


program versions used
$Id: recon-all,v 1.395 2011/05/18 23:01:39 krish Exp $
$Id: mri_motion_correct.fsl,v 1.14 2011/03/02 20:16:39 nicks Exp $
mri_convert -all-info 
ProgramName: mri_convert  ProgramArguments: -all-info  ProgramVersion: $Name: stable5 $  TimeStamp: 2013/01/17-19:40:31-GMT  BuildTimeStamp: May 16 2011 12:54:49  CVS: $Id: mri_convert.c,v 1.179.2.1 2011/03/22 16:37:02 nicks Exp $  User: virtualuser  Machine: FreeSurfer  Platform: Linux  PlatformVersion: 2.6.28-11-generic  CompilerName: GCC  CompilerVersion: 30400 
FLIRT version 5.5
$Id: talairach_avi,v 1.9 2011/03/02 18:38:06 nicks Exp $
mri_convert --version 
stable5
ProgramName: tkregister2_cmdl  ProgramArguments: --all-info  ProgramVersion: $Name: stable5 $  TimeStamp: 2013/01/17-19:40:32-GMT  BuildTimeStamp: May 16 2011 12:54:49  CVS: $Id: tkregister2.c,v 1.121.2.1 2011/03/28 20:25:16 greve Exp $  User: virtualuser  Machine: FreeSurfer  Platform: Linux  PlatformVersion: 2.6.28-11-generic  CompilerName: GCC  CompilerVersion: 30400 
Program nu_correct, built from:
Package MNI N3, version 1.10, compiled by nicks@fishie (i686-pc-linux-gnu) on 

[Freesurfer] Merging .annot files

2013-01-17 Thread Chris McNorgan

Hello all,

I posted this question on the cmtk users google group, but no takers, 
and perhaps this is the more appropriate venue anyways.


I've been successfully using cmtk within iPython. After running 
connectomemapper parcellate() to get the Lausanne parcellation scheme, I 
get six .annot files: ?h.myaparcP1_16.annot, ?h.myaparcP17_28.annot, 
and ?h.myaparcP29_66.annot, for each of lh and rh.


Each of these .annot files label the entire cortical surface, but each 
of the 36 major anatomical regions (e.g., posteriorcingulate) for each 
hemisphere are further subdivided in only one of the three .annot files; 
the other two files use the original definition of the major region. In 
other words, in order to use these .annot files to work with the 
Lausanne sub-parcellations  for the entire cortical surface, one has to 
run the same procedure using each of the 3 .annot files, and then figure 
out which .annot file provided the desired information.


I was wondering whether it is possible to merge the three annot files to 
create a single .annot file for each hemisphere in which ALL of the 36 
major anatomical regions have been subdivided, rather than three files 
containing parcellations of different subsets of these regions? Though I 
have been using scripts to sift through multiple sets of results to find 
what I'm looking for, some manual chores would be easier if I only had 
to work with a single file.


The fact that the same vertices are labeled in all files (but are given 
the macro-region label in 2 files, and the sub-parcelation label in 1 
file) makes me think that it's not a simple matter of concatenating the 
annotation files.


Thanks,
Chris

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Re: [Freesurfer] Freesurfer vertex wise area reference

2013-01-17 Thread Anderson M. Winkler
Dear Mahinda,

For the mris_preproc, I think Doug posted already explaining how it works -
it uses a jacobian correction in a way that makes it mass-conservative. You
may want to search the archives. For the ROIs, the standard method is to
add up the areas of their constituent vertices, so it should be
straightforward to describe I believe. And the statistics are based on the
GLM, which is already well entrenched in the literature, with no need for
details other than describing carefully the design you used and how you
corrected for multiple testing.

About a general discussion on area, the methods, etc, then yes, that would
be the paper that you know already.

All the best,

Anderson


2013/1/17 MAHINDA YOGARAJAH y.mahi...@gmail.com

 Hi,

 Sorry to be a little more specific - I am aware of freesurfer area
 references such as the WInkler reference but basically wanted a few lines,
 and the most appropriate references, that summarises the technical approach
 used for group area comparisons in qdec (using updated mris_preproc), and
 simple ROI  group area comparisons.

 Thanks,

 Mahinda
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