Re: [Freesurfer] visualize subcortical areas in tksurfer?

2015-02-23 Thread Bruce Fischl

Hi Daniel

I wouldn't advise this - you will miss most of the activation unless 
it happens to be right next to where the surface runs adjacent to the 
structure of interest. For subcortical structures you are better off 
showing the results in slices.


cheers
Bruce


On Mon, 23 
Feb 2015, Yang, Daniel wrote:



Hi Bruce,

Thanks for the reply. My main question is how to best visualize subcortical
activation in a figure.

Sometimes we do see some subcortical activation (like the attached, which 
is a random search) (if the attachment does not work, please see the 
examplehere: 

http://www.frontiersin.org/files/Articles/18483/fnhum-06-00021-HTML/
image_m/fnhum-06-00021-g003.jpg).


Is it okay to visualize such subcortical activation via tksurfer? If not,
could you please recommend a method to visualize subcortical activation?

Sincerely,
Daniel

On 2/20/15, 9:06 AM, Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:

  HI Daniel

no, that won't work. Vol2surf samples a volume to an existig surface
and
none of the subcortical structures will be anywere near the cortical
surface. You would need to run mri_tessellate on each subcortical
label
that you want to generate a  surface for, but I'm still not sure what
you
are trying to do.

cheers
Bruce
  On Fri, 20 Feb 2015, Yang, Daniel wrote:

  Hi Bruce,

Thanks! and yes, I used mri_vol2surf to convert subcortical
region as a
volume file to surface (mgh file) and then visualize it with
tksurfer.
According to what you said, this is still valid, right?

Best,
Daniel

On 2/19/15, 5:59 PM, Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
wrote:

  Hi Daniel

no, tksurfer visualizes surfaces exclusively, and the
subcortical
structures are volumetric by and large. You could
tesselate their surface
and view it in tksurfer, or just use tkmediit or freeview.

cheers
Bruce
On Thu, 19 Feb
2015, Yang, Daniel wrote:

  Dear FreeSurfer experts,

I find that tksurfer allows me to visualize
subcortical areas such as
hippocampus. The
visualization looks valid to me.

Can tksurfer be used in this way?

Thanks!!
Daniel


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[Freesurfer] Using -qcache command multiple times

2015-02-23 Thread Anne Park
Hello,

I had a question about using the -qcache command for smoothing. Previously, the 
-qcache command was used on several subjects in my dataset, and since then, 
these subjects have undergone some manual edits (control points, edits to 
wm.mgz, etc.). Currently, I’d like to run the -qcache command on the entire 
group of subjects – do I need to delete any files created by the previous uses 
of -qcache first, or is it ok just to go ahead and run the command for all 
subjects?

Thank you,
Anne Park
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[Freesurfer] Older version (5.0) on newer OSes

2015-02-23 Thread Bill Ulrich
Hello everyone,

I have a quick question about the feasibility of running FreeSurfer v5.0
on either RedHat/Centos 6.x or a newer Debian install. We want to run
some new subjects but compare them to subjects run 5 yrs ago with
FreeSurfer 5.0. Running all of the old subjects again in v5.3 is infeasible.

I pulled down the Centos 5 binaries (just to try) but they segfault when
running recon-all. I'd dedicate a machine to an older OS for
compatibility, but we were hoping to use our NiPype pipeline, which
works just fine with v 5.3 and is installed on the newer OSes.

So - does anyone know if it's possible? TIA for any help.

Cheers,

Bill Ulrich

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Re: [Freesurfer] treatment effect compare to controls

2015-02-23 Thread Martin Reuter
Hi,

yes, the first is to stack all the data into a single file (on your study 
average, usually that is fsaverage). The second steps smoothes the data. You 
can use different smoothing levels, depending on your data. Usually 10 or 15 is 
a good number.

The data will automatically be taken from the sub1t1.long.tempsub1 etc 
directories (this is signaled by the --qdec-long flag. The qdec table needs to 
be in the longitudinal format, that means the first column is the subject id 
(sub1-t1) the second column the base name (tempsub1) column headers are fsid 
fsid-base ….
usually the third column is time from baseline (in years), but can be any time 
variable that you want to use in the LME. 

There is an example of the longitudinal qdec table here:
http://freesurfer.net/fswiki/LongitudinalTwoStageModel 

I'll probably add that to the lme page so it is easier to find.

Best, Martin

On Feb 23, 2015, at 4:54 AM, amirhossein manzouri a.h.manzo...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Hi  and thanks Martin for your help,
 I am trying to do mixed effect analysis, should I use the registered to 
 template data for this ( sub1-t1.long.tempsub1 and sub1-t2.long.tempsub1) and 
 how should the aded.table.dat look like? Do I need to run :
 mris_preproc --qdec-long qdec.table.dat --target study_average --hemi lh 
 --meas thickness --out lh.thickness.mgh
 mri_surf2surf --hemi lh --s study_average --sval lh.thickness.mgh --tval 
 lh.thickness_sm10.mgh --fwhm-trg 10 --cortex  --noreshape

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Re: [Freesurfer] confirm 5db71d8d19a634948b059d302f95d798f665a638

2015-02-23 Thread Eiran Vadim Harel
Hello Freesurfers,
I use freesurfer v5.3.0
When I do group analysis correction for multiple comparisons for lh as follows: 
mri_glmfit --y ces.nii.gz --wls cesvar.nii.gz --osgm --glmdir group.glm 
--nii.gz --surface fsaverage lh
mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir group.glm --cache 3 pos --cwpvalthresh .0166
I get this error message:
ERROR: cannot find 
/Applications/freesurfer/average/mult-comp-cor/fsaverage/lh/cortex/fwhm00/pos/th30/mc-z.csd
For the mkanalysis-sess i used fwhm = 5.
When i do the same for mni305 and use:
mri_glmfit --y ces.nii.gz --wls cesvar.nii.gz --osgm --glmdir group.glm 
--nii.gz 
mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir group.glm --grf 3 pos --cwpvalthresh .0166

It works well without an error.
Thanks,Eiran 

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[Freesurfer] mri_glmfit-sim Error

2015-02-23 Thread Eiran Vadim Harel
Hello Freesurfers,
I use freesurfer v5.3.0
When I do group analysis correction for multiple comparisons for lh as follows: 
mri_glmfit --y ces.nii.gz --wls cesvar.nii.gz --osgm --glmdir group.glm 
--nii.gz --surface fsaverage lh
mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir group.glm --cache 3 pos --cwpvalthresh .0166
I get this error message:
ERROR: cannot find 
/Applications/freesurfer/average/mult-comp-cor/fsaverage/lh/cortex/fwhm00/pos/th30/mc-z.csd
For the mkanalysis-sess i used fwhm = 5.
When i do the same for mni305 and use:
mri_glmfit --y ces.nii.gz --wls cesvar.nii.gz --osgm --glmdir group.glm 
--nii.gz 
mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir group.glm --grf 3 pos --cwpvalthresh .0166

It works well without an error.
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Re: [Freesurfer] treatment effect compare to controls

2015-02-23 Thread amirhossein manzouri
Hi  and thanks Martin for your help,
I am trying to do mixed effect analysis, should I use the registered to
template data for this ( sub1-t1.long.tempsub1 and sub1-t2.long.tempsub1)
and how should the aded.table.dat look like? Do I need to run :

mris_preproc --qdec-long qdec.table.dat --target study_average --hemi
lh --meas thickness --out lh.thickness.mgh

mri_surf2surf --hemi lh --s study_average --sval lh.thickness.mgh
--tval lh.thickness_sm10.mgh --fwhm-trg 10 --cortex  --noreshape
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Re: [Freesurfer] RAM Replace

2015-02-23 Thread Bruce Fischl
I would very much hope that replacing the RAM wouldn't change anything
Bruce
On 
Mon, 23 Feb 2015, Pedro Rosa - Gmail wrote:

 Dear all,
 I would like to know whether a RAM memory replacement in a Mac computer would 
 change
 FreeSurfer 5.3 processing.
 I have a sample that was almost completely processed, but there are a few 
 subjects
 whose acquisition are yet to be done. I would like know whether I could 
 process such
 images after the RAM replacement without biasing the study. The change would 
 be from
 a Markvision without ECC (error-correction code) to a Kingston with ECC.
 Thanks in advance,
 Pedro Rosa.
 
 

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Re: [Freesurfer] RAM Replace

2015-02-23 Thread Pedro Rosa
Thanks, Bruce.
I am asking this because I believe that changing the processor or the 
operational system could change the processing. If I got it correctly, it is 
expected that it is not the same for the RAM. Am I correct?
Thanks again,
Pedro.

 On Feb 23, 2015, at 21:50, Bruce Fischl fis...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu wrote:
 
 I would very much hope that replacing the RAM wouldn't change anything
 Bruce
 On 
 Mon, 23 Feb 2015, Pedro Rosa - Gmail wrote:
 
 Dear all,
 I would like to know whether a RAM memory replacement in a Mac computer 
 would change
 FreeSurfer 5.3 processing.
 I have a sample that was almost completely processed, but there are a few 
 subjects
 whose acquisition are yet to be done. I would like know whether I could 
 process such
 images after the RAM replacement without biasing the study. The change would 
 be from
 a Markvision without ECC (error-correction code) to a Kingston with ECC.
 Thanks in advance,
 Pedro Rosa.
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Re: [Freesurfer] RAM Replace

2015-02-23 Thread Bruce Fischl
yes, it would be pretty strange if swapping out ram changed the results

On Mon, 23 Feb 2015, Pedro 
Rosa wrote:

 Thanks, Bruce.
 I am asking this because I believe that changing the processor or the 
 operational system could change the processing. If I got it correctly, it is 
 expected that it is not the same for the RAM. Am I correct?
 Thanks again,
 Pedro.

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 I would very much hope that replacing the RAM wouldn't change anything
 Bruce
 On
 Mon, 23 Feb 2015, Pedro Rosa - Gmail wrote:

 Dear all,
 I would like to know whether a RAM memory replacement in a Mac computer 
 would change
 FreeSurfer 5.3 processing.
 I have a sample that was almost completely processed, but there are a few 
 subjects
 whose acquisition are yet to be done. I would like know whether I could 
 process such
 images after the RAM replacement without biasing the study. The change 
 would be from
 a Markvision without ECC (error-correction code) to a Kingston with ECC.
 Thanks in advance,
 Pedro Rosa.
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[Freesurfer] RAM Replace

2015-02-23 Thread Pedro Rosa - Gmail
Dear all,
I would like to know whether a RAM memory replacement in a Mac computer would 
change FreeSurfer 5.3 processing.
I have a sample that was almost completely processed, but there are a few 
subjects whose acquisition are yet to be done. I would like know whether I 
could process such images after the RAM replacement without biasing the study. 
The change would be from a Markvision without ECC (error-correction code) to a 
Kingston with ECC.
Thanks in advance,
Pedro Rosa.

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